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International Aircraft Challenge (MT RP)

Upper Xen
23-12-2004, 20:42
Speaking on NHK, Klimenti Rokossovsky of Xenizen National Armscorp spoke.

"Peoples of the world. Humanity, for a long time, has aspired to fly. It has done so, within this past century. It has made astounding leaps and bounds, from propeller to jet engines, from biplanes to sophisticated amchines of conveyance and war."

"I come before you with a challenge. Upper Xen is not technologically far behind. We have modern F-22's, and heavily modifed F-16's, built with Block 60 electronics and halfnium aircraft engines. However, we want to see what the international community is capable of. We want to see how well others can design great aircraft. To this end, I am proud to announce that National Armscorp is hosting a competition with a USD$15,000,000,000 prize to see who can design the fastest, most advanced and reliable aircraft."

"The criteria are simple. The aircraft must be able to go at least Mach 3. It must have a low radar crossection, and it must be no heavier than 30,000lbs empty and 45,000lbs full. The aircraft must also be able to function at an altitude of 50,000ft+ and have a range of at least 1,500+ Nautical Miles. It must also be able to perform in all weather and lighting conditions, and it must be able to hold a great amount of firepower. We are mainly looking for air superiority concepts."

"Plan accordingly, we will test the final prototypes in Manchuria and the Gobi Desert."

"There are fifteen slots available. All are welcome, regardless of nationality, and ideology."

Entrants:
1. Pushka- PJF-01
2. Witzgall- Numen V
3. Soviet Bloc- F-79AB Molniya II Air Superiority Fighter
4. Anagonia- XF-200 Super Starfighter
5. ISAF- Valefor-29RE Air Superiority Fighter
6. Tyrandis- TSF-28 Seraph Air Superiority Fighter
7. Tonissia- FBC-53 Mosqiuto Fighter-bomber
8. Decisive Action- MiG-41 Good Ole Boy
9. Democratic Colonies- F-81 Peacemaker
10. Roman Republic- X-35F JSF
11. Hallad- Su-36 Imperator
12. Neo Cannen- Flare fighter Mk2
13. Dostanout Loj- YF-100 Glaive
14. Ma-Tek- RV-118 Thunder
15. Mauiwowee- Bong Buster II
Pushka
23-12-2004, 21:09
This is PJF-01 multi-role fighter

Wingspan: 16.7 m
Length overall: 22.6 m
Height overall 6.40 m
Weight empty, equipped : 24,000 kg (52,910 lb)
Max T-O weight : 38,000 kg
Max level speed at height : 3,000 km/h
Max level speed at S/L : 1,900km/h
Service ceiling : 25,000 m
Range with max fuel at height : 4,300 km
Number of hardpoints: 14: 2 wingtip, 6-8 underwing, 6-4 conformal underfuselage
Air-to-air : R-77, R-77PD, R-73, K-74
Air-to-surface: X-29T, X-29L, X-59M, X-31P, X-31A, KAB-500, KAB-1500
Stealth: Plasma shield full stealth technology
Enginges: Vertical thrust

http://www.flymig.com/aircraft/Su-47/3veiw.gif

Here is some info on its Plasma shield stealth technology

http://www.aeronautics.ru/plasmamain.htm
Upper Xen
23-12-2004, 21:13
You're in. Now, let's see what others have to offer.....

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp
Witzgall
23-12-2004, 21:17
Hello, and greetings:
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su27/images/su27_2.jpg

Crew one pilot

Power Plant
Engines 2 twin shaft augmented turbofan JJ-78
maximum thrust, full augmentation 2 x 141,500 kg
maximum thrust, dry 2 x 9,200kg

Weight
maximum take-off weight 36,200 kg
normal take-off weight 21,200 kg
maximum landing weight 28,000 kg
maximum internal fuel 9,850 kg

Dimensions
Length 23 m
height on landing gear6.2m
Span 15.25 m
wing area 62.2 square m
landing gear base 5.92 m
landing gear track 4.5 m

Flight data
maximum speed at high altitude Mach 4.2
maximum speed near ground 1,625 km/h
Cruise Speed: Mach 1.12
minimum indicated speed 260 km/hour
service ceiling 18,400 m
rate of climb near ground 345 m
radius of turn near ground 445 m
maximum limit load factor +10g
maximum operation range near ground 1410 km
maximum operating range at cruise altitude 3,770 km
Take-off run at normal take-off weight 425 m
landing run with drag parachute 645 m

Unit Price: $68,000,000.00
Ally Price: $60,500,000.00

List of Technologies
Phoenixius Defensive Countermeasures Suite, Generation II
Phoenixius Holographic Battlefield Visualisation System, Generation II
Archangel Stealth System, Generation III
Computer Aided Control System, Generation IV
Deity System
Wraith Holographic System G-II
Triad Armor
Explanation of the JJ-78: The JJ-78 was made by a company in Truitt.

Each engine has two air intakes: a primary wedge intake and a louvred auxiliary air intake. The twin-shaft, turbo-fan engine has after-turbine flow mixing, a common afterburner, an all-mode variable area jet exhaust nozzle, an independent start and a main electronic control, and a reserve hydromechanical engine mode control system. The high-temperature sections of the engines are made of titanium alloy.

The RR-556-TyH-7A02 was the test version of the JJ-78. It was created with a surrounded-shaft escape for abm problems and a release valve for carrier operations although its goal was not that.

The ratings came back with a powerful 16,000lb of thrust each with half pulse, which is why it is so unique.

Being the secound engine developed with the Flame Jet[tm] Capability. It allows more fuel to be injected into the feed otherthan the exhust like afterburnners.

The overall ejection is only a quarter of the percentage normally thrusted into the engine, but the effects are nearly double.

The Flame Jet[tm] also allows for superburnners, or afterburnners in a more fuel-efficant way. If equals out about a tenth fo the percentage sent into the engine and a tenth sent into the exhust, giving it a few extra bits of economic ratings.
Upper Xen
23-12-2004, 21:32
Impressive, you are in.
Upper Xen
23-12-2004, 22:06
bump
Upper Xen
23-12-2004, 23:29
bump for entrants!
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 00:12
bump
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 02:14
bump
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 03:19
bump
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 03:33
We are still looking for applicants. There is a USD$15,000,000,000 prize in it for any nation that joins......
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 05:26
bump
Upper Xen
24-12-2004, 19:11
bump
Soviet Bloc
25-12-2004, 07:38
This is the F-79AB Molniya II Air Superiority Fighter. It meets or exceeds all your stated criteria except the maximum take-off weight (exceeding it by ~10,000lbs). Otherwise, its all-weather/night&day capability, faster than your stated speed, has an 80,000 ft. ceiling, combat radius of greater than 1500 miles, and is very heavy on armament (it is also reasonably stealthy).


Stated below are only the base specifications of the F-79AB, refer to this thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7573164&postcount=1 for complete information on its capabilities, systems, weaponry, engines, stealth abilities, countermeasures and the optional DNI interface system (as well as optical camoflauge).


F-79A/B Molniya II Air Superiority Fighter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/futureinterceptor.jpg

Specifications

Role: Next Generation Air Superiority Fighter
Crew: 2 (pilot, weapons officer) in a tandem-type configuration
Length: 57.50 ft.
Wingspan (Primary Wings): 58.00 ft.
Height: 14.68 ft. (F-79A); 15.12 ft (F-79B Naval Variant)

Empty Weight: 44,000 lb.
Maximum Weight: 75,000 lb.
Fuel Weight: 15,200 lb. (F-79A); 17,000lbs (F-79B Naval Variant)
Armament Weight: 15,600 lb. (F-79A); 13,800 (F-79B Naval Variant)

Powerplant: 2x SB-APDE-ATF-890AXE pulse-detonation/turbo-fan hybrid engines
Maximum Thrust: 50,704 lbs per engine
Maximum Speed: Mach 3.6 Super-Cruise speed: Mach 2.4

Initial Climb Rate: 45,000 ft/min
Service Ceiling: 86,650 ft.
Range: 1,570nm (combat); 3,000nm (ferry) [F-79A]; 1900 nm (combat); 3400nm (ferry) [F-79B Naval Variant]
G-Limits: -7 / +11

Weapons: Four hardpoints underneath each wing, five fuselage hardpoints TOTAL EXTERNAL HARDPOINTS= 13
2x Internal bays each with two hardpoints for AAMs
1x SB-AGX-30 30mm Six-barreled cannon with 250 rounds of ammunition
Total armament weight that can be carried: 15,600 pounds (F-79A)


Cost-
F-79A- $110 Million USD
F-79B Naval Variant (Strengthened frame, heavier landing gear, more fuel, treated skin and frame, salt/humidity-proof equipment)- $119 Million USD
Anagonia
25-12-2004, 08:43
It may not be the best, but, hell, we made it and were thinkin' about usin' it. Hopfully its Capacity to go over Mach 2.5 isn't a big deal.

ANAGONIAN MADE FIGHTERS

XF-200 Super Starfighter
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/airdef/f-104-star_d1.gif

Manufacturer
Anagonian Air Defense Industries
Designation
Advanced Fighter/Bomber
Version
A / First

Crew
One / Pilot

Length
58 feet 10 inches
Height
15 feet 2 inches
Wingspan
28 feet 9 inches

Empty Weight
18,082 lbs
Max Weight
30,779 lbs

No. of Engines
One
Powerplant
Mark 5 Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Jet Combustion Engine
Thrust
20,000 to 32,000 lbs
Cruise Speed
554 mph
Max Speed
1,875 mph (Mach 2.5-plus) at 35,000 ft.
Climb Rate
55,240 feet per minute
Ceiling
62,920 ft

Sensors
Type I Microwave Active/Passive Radar System

Guns
Modified M-61 Vulcan 20mm cannon
Armament
8,000 lbs of bombs under the wings
Two Sidewinder missiles on tips
Variation Varies
Dostanuot Loj
25-12-2004, 11:06
Interesting...
We feel this might be the perfict time to demonstrate the capabilities of our YF-100 Glaive Interceptorsto the world. As the YF-100 is already in limited service with our Air Force.

YF-100 Glaive:
http://img141.exs.cx/img141/1139/yf1002ho.png
About:
Designed to travel from Earth's atmosphere right into space, and back again with ease. Initial power is provided by a pair of high thrust turbofan engines. Higher speeds are acheived through use of a Ramjet that also powers the craft in the vacume of space. The ramjet is aspecial design tha can be used with or without air by mechanicly sealing off the intake of the Ramjet and using it as a rocket.

Mission Role: Interceptor
Crew: 3
- Pilot
- Systems Officer
- Gunner
Maximum Weight: 57,000 lbs
Weight Unloaded: 34,000 lbs
Maximum Altitude: Unlimited (Unknown, but has been known to reach 120km)
Fuel: Hydrogen/Kerosine, Liquid Oxygen, Deuterium
Wingspan: 34.5m
Maximum Range: Unlimited (3,600km in puerly atmospheric flight)
Maximum Speed: Mach 3.1 under Jet only power, Mach 6.3 using Ramjet in the atmosphere, Mach 26 Orbital
Powerplant:
- 2x Kyt-700 Turbofan Jet Engines with Afterburner and Supercruise (Combined 76,000 full afterburner)
- 2x Kyt 9800 Articulating Ramjet Engines (Combined 230,000 lbs of thrust at full burn*)
Armament:
- 4x AIM-112N Craft to Craft Tactical Nuclear Missiles (1kt), launchers built into the jet engine wing pods.
- 2x 15mm ETC Cannons, fixed in the Belly.
- 2x 15mm ETC Cannons, in the Dorsal Turret.
- 12x AIM-112S Air-to-air missiles, in 4x rack-fed missile launchers in the jet engine wing pods.
Stealth Capability: Painted in RADAR absoring paint. Thermal signature is however, very high.


*Note: Full burn eats up lots of fuel, and thus cuts the range signifigantly.
Upper Xen
25-12-2004, 17:28
New Participants added.
Upper Xen
25-12-2004, 19:03
bump................
Upper Xen
25-12-2004, 22:12
bump
Upper Xen
26-12-2004, 03:03
bump
Upper Xen
26-12-2004, 22:08
bump
Dostanuot Loj
26-12-2004, 22:26
We wish to know when this contest is to take place. As we will require the time to remove the required YF-100's from active service.

- Admiral U.Namtar II
Upper Xen
26-12-2004, 22:42
We are waiting until all possible entrants are coming. Then, the contest will commence on Jan. 15th.
Upper Xen
27-12-2004, 04:11
bump
The Real ALM
01-01-2005, 04:33
bump.............
ISAF
01-01-2005, 06:49
Relic Military Aviaton presents...

An aircraft that has no equal
An aircraft that beat the RF-11 in every respect
An aircraft that can beat Mach 4.4
An aircraft equipped with a radar that has yet to be defeated, called HSCDEADGR
An aircraft that can land flying backwards

Valefor-29RE Air Superiority Fighter
http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/storefrontaircraft.htm
Crew: 1 pilot

Max Speed: Mach 4.4

Max Speed with PFR System: Mach 6.6

PowerPlant: 1 RelicAeroSpace Gran Fury Imperial Shaftless Afterburning Turbojet (110,000 lbs of thrust)

Armament Upgrade: RA-G5 20mm Gas-Gun Aerospace Cannon, with guided ammo

Counter Measure Upgrade:
6 CRDA AMMI "Buckler" units, one on each side of the plane.
5 'Moondust' anti-ballistic sprayers, on every side but the front

Special Features:
Exclusive HSCDEADGR radar system.
Layer of laser diffusing diamond fiber optics below skin.
Inner spaces filled with aerogel for superior heat absorption and anti-ballistic performance.
Reversible thrust tesla turbine engine allows basic STOL performance and new dogfighting maneuvers.
Gyroscope system fine-tunes and enhances maneuverability.

NOT FOR SALE / $73 million


Technical Information, provided by RelicArms International:
Relic Upgraded Edition:
The new Gran Fury Imperial Shaftless Afterburning Turbojet provides much more thrust than the already impressive magnum charger used in the export verion of the plane, the thrust-to-weight ratio is better than some missiles at this point, leading to extreme maneuverability and climbing. By using H2N fuel(contracted from Lima Beens) we can increase maximum PFR speed past normal. This version of the plane is only in use by our forces, and only sellable to Lima Beens or another country with the ability to produce H2N fuel. The Hailstorm semi-guided ammunition contracted from Phoenixius has also been implemented, replacing the standard 20mm shells, and the gatling cannon has been replaced with a repeating-gas gun. Quickly being added to many of them are the newly developed CRDA AMMI "Buckler" missile intercepting countermeasure. Also being added rapidly to all Relic Valefors are tesla pump intake and output upgrades, capable of boosting the power output of the jet engine hugely. The tesla pump in the intake areas can also be reversed, providing negative thrust, and therefore shorter landing distances and new dogfighting maneuvers. A system of powerful gyroscopes has been built in, they allow for sharper and more precise maneuvering, and moving in directions not normally possible with control surfaces alone. A layer of diamond fiberoptics has been added into the skin of the aircraft to diffuse anti-aircraft lasers. The HSCDEADGR radar system has been installed, limiting some of its electronic warfare capabilities, but providing unparalled sensor capabilities.

All technical information can be found at:

http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/techcontracts.htm
Kyanges
04-01-2005, 01:56
UPPER XEN MADE ME DO IT!!!!!111!!1!!!111!!!!111!!!
*bump.*
Upper Xen
04-01-2005, 04:10
bump
Sileetris
04-01-2005, 07:00
(OOC: Since ISAF's owner is irl on vacation in Colorado and may not have access to a computer, I can play in his place should it come down to it. I developed the Valefor to begin with(link to a details thread in my sig) so it shouldn't be too much of a problem)
Tonissia
04-01-2005, 21:10
PICTURE: FBC-53 (http://www.aerofiles.com/doug-x3.jpg)

Length 66ft
Wing 22ft
Engines 2 TMS Jet7 turbojets
Wepons 2 Mach3 Rhinos Missles
the nose is purposefuly designed to fall off as a bomb
Top Speed Mach 3.5(Its designed to be More a Bomber than a Fighter Hence is Slow speed)
Tonissia
05-01-2005, 03:42
UPPER XEN MADE ME DO IT!!!!!111!!1!!!111!!!!111!!!
*bump.*
Me too
Kyanges
05-01-2005, 03:48
PICTURE: FBC-53 (http://www.aerofiles.com/doug-x3.jpg)

Length 66ft
Wing 22ft
Engines 2 TMS Jet7 turbojets
Wepons 2 Mach3 Rhinos Missles
the nose is purposefuly designed to fall off as a bomb
Top Speed Mach 2.5(Its designed to be More a Bomber than a Fighter Hence is Slow speed)

Something doesn't make sense. The picture you used was of the X-3, which was supposed to able to surpass mach 3. It didn't only because the power plants that were supposed to power it to that speed never made it. Instead they gave it some old engines that were woefully underpowered for the job. Basically, you can set the speed much higher.

I think that's the basic story at any rate.
Tonissia
05-01-2005, 03:51
Something doesn't make sense. The picture you used was of the X-3, which was supposed to able to surpass mach 3. It didn't only because the power plants that were supposed to power it to that speed never made it. Instead they gave it some old engines that were woefully underpowered for the job. Basically, you can set the speed much higher.

I think that's the basic story at any rate.
Ok I added an extra Mach in there :)
Tyrandis
05-01-2005, 03:52
Statement from the Department of Defense

"Regarding this competition, the Imperium would like to enter its TSF-28D Seraph Air Superiority Fighter. We are particularly interested in how this design can compete against the latest and greatest from foreign countries."

Specification for the TSF-28D (Special Issue):

http://homepage1.nifty.com/chitake/KOH-SHO/mokei/airplane/f15-mtd.jpg

TSF-28 Seraph Air Superiority Fighter

Technical Data:

Contractor: Kotoko Aircraft Corporation

Type: Advanced Air-Superiority Fighter

Personnel: 1

Systems/Avionics:

NACS Mk. I - Aircraft control system. Composed of an advanced Fly-By-Light scheme that utilizes fibre-optic wires just nanometers-thick, the NACS provides the aircraft far superior agility and manuverablity to any legacy fly-by-wire system in the world, giving the TSF-28's pilot unmatched responsiveness and control.

JNFC Mk. III - Target/track/firing computer, which has several subsystems:

NAN/BSTR-2 - RADAR for the TSF-28, which is a bistatic phased-array NPI system, mounted in the aircraft's nose and a tail apeture, giving the Seraph a complete 360 degree scan capability for a full 315 kilometers.

NISTC-66 - Infared sensor system, which scans for any and all heat signatures within a 100 km radius from the aircraft. When a target is discovered, the data is fed to the JNFC, which then relays the information to IR-guided XSRAAMs mounted on the Seraph's side bays or wingtips. From there, the XSRAAM is guided to the missile based on its own seeker or the pilot can initiate a Command Datalink update.

NTTC-92 - Target track component of the JNFC. Capable of hunting in excess of 200 independent signatures, the system identifies the target's headings based on data from the IR sensors and RADAR system, then relays the information to the JNFC.

NPRC-4 - Target attack component of the JNFC. The NTTC's datastream is relayed to the NPRC, which then issues the information to the TSF-28's weapons systems. Capable of marking up to fifty-six different targets at one time, and simultaeneously attacking up to eight, the NPRC-4 is the heart of the Seraph's extensive fire control systems.

Holy Thunder - TSF-28's 27mm cannon system. Based on the datastream from the NPRC-4's computer, the gun is independently operated by the aircraft itself, although a pilot can override the automatic system for manual control.

Stealth:

The TSF-28 Seraph employs technologies to significantly reduce RADAR Cross Section (RCS), infrared signature, electromagnetic signature, visual signature and aural signature. RCS reduction represents the paramount feature considered in Kotoko Aircraft Corporation's design. To reduce RCS, the Seraph employs a geometrically based radar dispersing configuration. Developed utilizing computational RCS modeling, the TSF-28 configuration employs facets approximated by curvelinear, polynomial sections. Ultimate RCS reduction for the TSF-28, however, is dependent upon a proprietary combination of bandpass external skins, internal shaping and the implementation of the NCPCAS-12 Active Stealth System. Between the external bandpass skins and the internal graphite hull backed by an alloy geodetic structure is a cavity. Within this cavity a low temperature plasma is achieved. This plasma, as manipulated by the TSF-28’s computer driven self-protection network, provides an unparalleled level of active stealth technology whereby incoming RADAR energy is substantially disrupted such that return signal is mitigated to undetectable levels or chaotic, undecipherable signals. Rather than rely solely upon external shaping, the TSF-28's stealth technology adapts to frequency and bandwidth, allowing maximum low observance performance against all air-to-air and ground based RADAR types alike.

Reduction of IR emissions is achieved through the use of a dedicated engine bay cooling/IR signature reduction system. Ducting residual inlet air through the NCPCAS-12 significantly reduces the TSF-28 Seraph's IR signature both at subsonic and supersonic speeds.

Aural signature is reduced in part through the PSRS-12. For enhanced aural signature reduction, the TSF-28 Seraph Air Superiority Fighter features Active Frequency Damping (AFD) and comparable active noise control systems. Visual signature is reduced through a chloro-flurosuphonic acid that is injected into the exhaust gases of the two TC-250-PW-60 engines, eliminating engine vapor trails.

Airframe:

Wing structure consists of two Ti-6A1-4V titanium and one Elgiloy cobalt-chromium-nickel alloy spar, fifteen titanium ribs, and multiple Titanium Oxide stringers. Ceramic plates are mated to the spar/rib structure, forming a fuel tank for the TSF-28. Wing skins composed of layered Single Walled Carbon Nano Tubes, providing maximum resistance to tear. Wing leading and trailing edges are graphite composites mated with titanium. Each wing is equipped with full span leading edge slats and trailing edge, double-slotted Fowler Flaps for lift augmentation. Maximum trailing edge flap deflection is 60º. Leading and trailing edge flaps are controlled by NKACSW-110 hydraulic cylinders. The wing is equipped with 0.20c flapperons for subsonic roll.

Powerplant:
2x Tyrandis Engineering TC-250-PW-60 pulse-det hybrids, providing sum of 98,500 lbs thrust to the aircraft, with 360 degree thrust vectoring from +60 degrees through -60 degrees.

Weights:
Empty: 27,550 lbs
Standard: 54,440 lbs
Max: 70,400 lbs

Ceiling:
Classified, but confirmed data indicates over 68,000 ft

Maximum Speed:
Mach 2.5 on supercruise, Mach 3.55 on afterburners

Weaponry:
8x AAMs in the internal weapons bay
4x XSRAAMs in fuselage side bays (2 on each side, IR seekers only)
2x XSRAAMs mounted on optional wingtip pylons
1x 27mm Holy Thunder proprietary cannon
Upper Xen
05-01-2005, 04:01
Tyrandis, Tonissia, Sileetris have been added.
Upper Xen
05-01-2005, 19:17
bump
The Real ALM
05-01-2005, 21:11
bump
Upper Xen
06-01-2005, 02:31
bump
Democratic Colonies
06-01-2005, 04:31
The Federated Union of Democratic Colonies would like to enter the F-81 Peacemaker Medium Strikefighter/Interceptor

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/NationStates/55444be8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/NationStates/e218e22e.jpg

Wingspan: 12m
Length: 16.35m
Height: 3.9 metres
Empty weight: 24,000 pounds
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 54,000 pounds
Thrust: 120,000 lbst provided by 2 Colonial Aerospace F-106 Engines
Range: 1700 miles
Top Cruise Speed: Mach 2.75
Top Speed: Mach 4.15
Armarment: 4 wing hardpoints, 3 underfuselage hardpoints, lightweight wingtip mounting


In the year 2005, the Colonial Airforce was flying a variety of distinct aircraft that fit the medium fighter role. F-15 Eagles, EF-2000 Eurofighters and F-35 Joint Strike Fighters performed as the workhorses of the Airforce, while F-133 Valkyries (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...t=362157&page=1) and F-106 Liberators (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...039#post7279039) filled the more glamorous heavy fighter role.

The Colonial Aerospace Command, eager to simplify both the training and the variety of spare parts needed for operations, submitted a request for a new, medium strike-fighter that could replace the F-15s, EF-2000s and F-35s, while outperforming all of them. One of the critical design requirements however, was that the plane be able to intercept a Decisive Action manufactured MiG-41 Good Ole Boy, which has a maximum speed of Mach 4.09. This requirement was considered by the Aerospace Command to be the most important aspect of the initally requested minimum performance specifications.

The Colonial Aerospace Corporation was the first to respond, with the mating of 2 Colonial Aerospace F-106 Engines, providing a total of 120,000 pounds of thrust, onto the pre-existing X-32U prototype airframe. The F-106 Engine was originally developed at a cost of 1.3 trillion US dollars for the F-106 Liberator Heavy Strikefighter. It was believed that the fitting of two massive F-106 Engines onto a medium fighter would allow it to exceed the maximum speeds of the DA MiG-41.

The X32U-F106E, later named the F-81 Peacemaker, won out in government trials against competing designs from the Pan Colonica Corporation and the Ocean Union, entered limited production in early 2008 and entered full production in late 2009.

The F-81 Peacemaker, while having no stealth or low radar visibility capabilities, does feature full 3-D thrust vectoring engines, that in conjunction with the canards, allow for a high degree of manuverability. As well, the F-81 Peacemaker is fully capable of V/STOL operations, is outfitted with a full fly-by-light optical wire control system, and has a radar comparable in capability to that of the F-15C Eagle.
Decisive Action
06-01-2005, 04:34
"The MiG-41 Good Ole Boy is better than anything you can think of, today that is, tomorrow, well tomorrow will belong to the MiG-49 Kluxer, the MiG-51 Super Kluxer, and the MiG-55 Ultra Kluxer. Therefore I will be entering the MiG-41 into this competition, and as soon as my boy Herman is back from China, he'll be the pilot..."


Dieter Thaller




Ooc- Information can be found in my storefront which is linked in my signature.
Tyrandis
06-01-2005, 04:39
"The MiG-41 Good Ole Boy is better than anything you can think of, today that is, tomorrow, well tomorrow will belong to the MiG-49 Kluxer, the MiG-51 Super Kluxer, and the MiG-55 Ultra Kluxer. Therefore I will be entering the MiG-41 into this competition, and as soon as my boy Herman is back from China, he'll be the pilot..."


Dieter Thaller




Ooc- Information can be found in my storefront which is linked in my signature.

OOC: Upper Xen, I would like to request that DA's aircraft stats be taken into consideration during his entry. If his aircraft can somehow hit Mach 4 with slightly over 27,000 lbs thrust, then my TSF-28 would be capable of speeds in excess of Mach 8 by that standard.
Decisive Action
06-01-2005, 04:50
OOC: Upper Xen, I would like to request that DA's aircraft stats be taken into consideration during his entry. If his aircraft can somehow hit Mach 4 with slightly over 27,000 lbs thrust, then my TSF-28 would be capable of speeds in excess of Mach 8 by that standard.



Ooc- Hey, I don't pretend to claim to be an expert designer, but what I do know is that nobody was beating a path to my door to help me design, only beating a path to my door to beat up on my designs.
Upper Xen
07-01-2005, 01:06
OOC: Now, now, we will see.

DA, Democratic Colonies, you're in!
Upper Xen
07-01-2005, 22:35
Bump for new contenders, you have until the RL 28th of January to submit designs!
Roman Republic
07-01-2005, 22:47
I would like to enter the competion

X-35F JSF

Function strike fighter
Contractor: Roman Republican Military Arms
Variants: Conventional Takeoff and Landing (CTOL) Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing (STOVL) Carrier-based (CV)
Unit Cost FY94$ $28M $35M $38M
Propulsion Baseline: Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 derivative from F-22 Raptor
Alternate Engine: General Electric F120 core
Thrust
Empty Weight: ~24,000 lbs
Internal Fuel: 26,000 lbs
Payload: 21,000 lbs
Maximum Takeoff Weight: ~50,000 lbs
Length: 45 feet
Wingspan: 36 feet
Height Classifed
Ceiling: Classified
Speed: supersonic
Combat Radius: over 1000 nautical miles
Crew: one

http://www.mscsoftware.com/products/jsf/images/jsf_main.jpg
Upper Xen
07-01-2005, 22:49
I would like to enter the competion

X-35F JSF

Function strike fighter
Contractor: Roman Republican Military Arms
Variants: Conventional Takeoff and Landing (CTOL) Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing (STOVL) Carrier-based (CV)
Unit Cost FY94$ $28M $35M $38M
Propulsion Baseline: Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 derivative from F-22 Raptor
Alternate Engine: General Electric F120 core
Thrust
Empty Weight: ~24,000 lbs
Internal Fuel: 26,000 lbs
Payload: 21,000 lbs
Maximum Takeoff Weight: ~50,000 lbs
Length: 45 feet
Wingspan: 36 feet
Height Classifed
Ceiling: Classified
Speed: supersonic
Combat Radius: over 1000 nautical miles
Crew: one

http://www.mscsoftware.com/products/jsf/images/jsf_main.jpg

OOC: Nice, is this an update of the F-35?
Roman Republic
07-01-2005, 22:50
OOC: Nice, is this an update of the F-35?

yup, Countries need upgrades on light attack fighters.
Upper Xen
07-01-2005, 22:52
yup, Countries need upgrades on light attack fighters.

OOC: Quoting Judge Mills Lane: "I'll Allow it!"

You're in.
Roman Republic
07-01-2005, 22:55
OOC: Quoting Judge Mills Lane: "I'll Allow it!"

You're in.

thanks!!
Upper Xen
07-01-2005, 23:53
bump
Tyrandis
08-01-2005, 00:25
Ooc- Hey, I don't pretend to claim to be an expert designer, but what I do know is that nobody was beating a path to my door to help me design, only beating a path to my door to beat up on my designs.

OOC: Because your designs are not particularly feasible. Suppose I built an 80ish ton MBT that ran on 120 horsepower and could achieve speeds of 200-mph max. Ridiculous, correct?

It's the same principle with your aircraft. My TSF-28 Seraph has more than three times the power that your "MiG-41" has, and it still can't break Mach 4. For that matter, I say that the people who claim their planes can get past Mach 3 with regular turbofans (The SR-71 used two RAMjet hybrids) is bullshitting. You just can't get that much power out of conventional engines.
Upper Xen
08-01-2005, 00:55
OOC: Okay people, this is not the thread to argue over tech, I understand your motivations Tyrandis, and they are duly noted, but I want to end this now before it escalates into something ugly.

Bump
Anarresa
08-01-2005, 08:31
Unless New Empire shows up this is a no contest for Sileetris and his Valefor
Sileetris
08-01-2005, 08:46
Hmmm this combined with his compliment on my prototype tank thread indicate Anarresa wants something...........

(And its ISAFs Valefor as soon as he comes back)
Upper Xen
08-01-2005, 18:04
bump

My money is on the MiG or the F-81, though Kyanges will contribute a design soon.....
Neo Cannen
08-01-2005, 18:19
The Neo Cannenite Airforce would like to introduce the following enterant to the procedings

Flare fighter Mk2

Propulsion: Rolls-Royce RB-232
Empty Weight: ~21,000 lbs
Internal Fuel: 23,000 lbs
Payload: 19,500 lbs
Maximum Takeoff Weight: ~47,000 lbs
Length: 50 feet
Wingspan: 40 feet
Maximum operational height: 60,000 feet (with capsule modification, 65,000 feet)
Minimum operational hight: 5 feet
Speed: Mach 3.5
Combat Radius: over 1000 nautical miles
Crew: two

Aditional fetures:
- Anti EMP shielding
- Advanced countermesure systems
- Internal bomb housing (can be modified to hold up too 4 paratroopers at max)
- WIG addaptable wings
- Waterproof engines
- Capsule ejection system (Ejects the entire capsule as opposed to the chair)

OOC more details on request
Upper Xen
08-01-2005, 18:49
The Neo Cannenite Airforce would like to introduce the following enterant to the procedings

Flare fighter Mk2

Propulsion: Rolls-Royce RB-232
Empty Weight: ~21,000 lbs
Internal Fuel: 23,000 lbs
Payload: 19,500 lbs
Maximum Takeoff Weight: ~47,000 lbs
Length: 50 feet
Wingspan: 40 feet
Maximum operational height: 60,000 feet (with capsule modification, 65,000 feet)
Minimum operational hight: 5 feet
Speed: Mach 3.5
Combat Radius: over 1000 nautical miles
Crew: two

Aditional fetures:
- Anti EMP shielding
- Advanced countermesure systems
- Internal bomb housing (can be modified to hold up too 4 paratroopers at max)
- WIG addaptable wings
- Waterproof engines
- Capsule ejection system (Ejects the entire capsule as opposed to the chair)

OOC more details on request

OOC: Any pics?
Neo Cannen
08-01-2005, 21:15
OOC: Any pics?

If the pic is in your My documents, how do you post it here?
Upper Xen
08-01-2005, 21:40
If the pic is in your My documents, how do you post it here?

I beleive there is a "Post Attachments" option that can be used to submit pictures when you post.
Kyanges
08-01-2005, 21:50
bump

My money is on the MiG or the F-81, though Kyanges will contribute a design soon.....

Meh, don't count on it. The orders on my store front coupled with some events happening now in my real life are giving me a headache...

(Hey, actually, can you give me a call? For some reason, your number just isn't coming to mind...)
Tyrandis
08-01-2005, 22:47
bump

My money is on the MiG or the F-81, though Kyanges will contribute a design soon.....

OOC: I have to disagree... While DC's aircraft is probably going to be the fastest, its manuverability and stealth is going to take a hit from the giant engines in the rear. With the MiG, my own objections have already been voiced, and I won't bother repeating them.

SB's and ISAF's designs look like the definite winner, although I do seriously have my doubts about the Valefor's max speed.
Upper Xen
08-01-2005, 23:05
Bump.
Neo Cannen
08-01-2005, 23:31
Here is a pic (assuming this works) Of a top view of the flarefighter

EDIT

Ok it didnt work, does anyone know what kind of image the upload will accept
Sileetris
09-01-2005, 00:27
Just use http://tinypic.com/ it works for as long as you'll need it to.

The Valefor's maximum speed is a result of its plasma friction reducing system, basically it uses plasma to slow down oncoming air. It can't use its radar while doing this so its only used for dodging and long range flying.
Democratic Colonies
09-01-2005, 02:01
OOC: I have to disagree... While DC's aircraft is probably going to be the fastest, its manuverability and stealth is going to take a hit from the giant engines in the rear.


ooc:

You're correct about the stealth. The F-81 Peacemaker has no stealth or low visibility functions whatsoever. Unless military planners want to try thier luck with an old fashioned 'low and fast' infiltration, Electronic Warfare packages or support from Electronic Warfare Aircraft will be required if the F-81 is going to breach a large air defense network. 'Low and fast' infiltrations, where the aircraft attempts to stay as close to the ground as possible at high speeds to avoid enemy radar, stands a good chance of success against some older or less advanced air defense networks, but probably wouldn't work without support against most modern, advanced networks.

Functions to keep the F-81 as manuverable as possible are incorporated into the design. The F-81 features a 3D thrust vectoring system, as well as mounted canards. The V/STOL lift fan behind the cockpit can also be utilized when appropiate in certain manuvers. The F-81 was designed to be more manuverable than a F-22 Raptor.
Upper Xen
09-01-2005, 22:39
bump
Hallad
09-01-2005, 22:47
We would like to enter the Su-36 Imperator.

Su-36 Imperator

The Su-36 Imperator is the latest Halladi interceptor aircraft. It is essentially a modernized Su-27 Flanker, however it encorporates larger guidance and weapons systems. The Su-36 is able to target up to 12 aircraft at once, and fire at all of them with enhanced accuracy.

The engines have been fully upgrade, to replace the out-of-date Lyulka AL-31F. The MiG-35s engines are used here, with over 20,000 lbs more thrust that the Su-27s engines.

All weapon systems are upgraded to high Halladi standards and the plane uses the new AA-13 Apostle. The missile is capable to targeting stealth aircraft with a notable margin of sucess.

The first prototype was flown in Febuary 2002, however, it was later halted due to lack of funds. Later in April of 2004 the project was brought back. It now incorporates the latest Halladi weaponry and technology. A trainer version is expected to be avaible soon, which should be a two-seater.

Specifications:

Country of Origin: Hallad
Builder: Halladi Nationalized Arms Manufacturing

Similar Aircraft:
Su-27 Flanker
Su-37 Terminator
MiG-29 Fulcrum

Crew: One
Role: Interceptor, air superiority
Length: 69 ft (21 m)
Span: 47 ft, 6 in (14.5 m)

Armament:
One 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon
up to 6,000 kg payload of missiles
14 hard points
AA-10 (Alamo) air-to-air missiles
AA-11 (Archer) air-to-air missiles
AA-13 (Apostle) air-to-air missiles
AS-20 (Kayak) air-to-surface missiles
AS-18 (Kazoo) air-to-surface missiles

In-Flight Refueling: Yes
Internal Fuel: 6500 kg
Drop Tanks: Drop tank with 1600kg for 146nm range
Payload: 6000kg
Sensors: Flash Dance radar, IRST and TV sensors, RWR

Maximum speed: 1,788.83657 mph (Mach 2.35)
Cruising Speed: 1,065.68987 mph (Mach 1.4)
Maximum weight: 32,126 lb empty /
43,254 lb max. take off

Ceiling: 59,000 ft
Range: 1,500 km combat radius [typical], 1,800 km cruise radius, 4,000 km maximum range
Propulsion: Two Lyulka AL-41F vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans, 39,340 lb thrust each

Unit Cost: $36,000,000
User Countries: Hallad, Ratheia, DPUO, Hogsweat, Roach-Busters, Stevid, Neuvo Rica, Warta Endor, Orlia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Belovia/su36.jpg
Upper Xen
09-01-2005, 23:43
We would like to enter the Su-36 Imperator.

You're in.
Neo Cannen
10-01-2005, 15:51
Here it is, a pic of the top view of the flarefighter (http://tinypic.com/17wjtj)

There are a couple of things to clear up about it. Firstly the little cirles. The ones on the back, the first two in each row of four (the ones nearest the back) are for countermesures, the others in the rear rows are mult purpose. They can fire UAV pods (IE UAV's that are in pods when they leave the plane and then the pods fall of and the UAV comes out), or drop bombs as they make an angled run (IE, there pointing up, a bomb slides out the back). The ones at the front, again the ones nearest the front have countermesurses, but the other two have revolving chambers for micro heatseaking air to air missiles. Each chamber holds six. The two brown guns at the front, underneath them are armourpeicing metal storm guns, but them themselves are micro railguns.
Dostanuot Loj
10-01-2005, 17:38
Upper Xen, I noticed my YF-100 was removed from the list, and I can not find a reason why. um, was this an accident or was the YF-100 removed for a reason?
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 20:54
Upper Xen, I noticed my YF-100 was removed from the list, and I can not find a reason why. um, was this an accident or was the YF-100 removed for a reason?

OOC: I am going to be frank. I can put you back on, but you might need to correct the part about the ramjet being used in space. Ramjets need oxygen to work, y'know.
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 20:55
Here it is, a pic of the top view of the flarefighter (http://tinypic.com/17wjtj)

Intriguing.......you're in.
Dostanuot Loj
10-01-2005, 21:01
OOC: I am going to be frank. I can put you back on, but you might need to correct the part about the ramjet being used in space. Ramjets need oxygen to work, y'know.

Eh, I know, i thought I made that part clear.
It's kinda a messed up ramjet, turns into a rocket like engine in space, by sealing off the "entrance" to the engine and burning a combo of LOX and hydrogen in a vacume, and opening up and burning hydrogen with the O2 around in the atmosphere.
Really odd system that poped in my head, undoubtably drinks fuel like a fish, but that I already mentioned.

I gotta say, a little prior notice would have been nice.
Supremancy
10-01-2005, 21:10
Here's you winner: Our Nuclear Powered 69 Stealth Focker-need I say more? :gundge:
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 21:39
Eh, I know, i thought I made that part clear.
It's kinda a messed up ramjet, turns into a rocket like engine in space, by sealing off the "entrance" to the engine and burning a combo of LOX and hydrogen in a vacume, and opening up and burning hydrogen with the O2 around in the atmosphere.
Really odd system that poped in my head, undoubtably drinks fuel like a fish, but that I already mentioned.

I gotta say, a little prior notice would have been nice.

OOC: Sorry about that, but still......hmmm, for now, I'll allow it, anyway, much of this stuff is in the atmosphere.
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 21:40
Here's you winner: Our Nuclear Powered 69 Stealth Focker-need I say more? :gundge:

OOC: I'm gonna need stats.
Dostanuot Loj
10-01-2005, 21:43
OOC: Sorry about that, but still......hmmm, for now, I'll allow it, anyway, much of this stuff is in the atmosphere.

Lol, yea, that's why I entered it. Besides, it wouldn't be much more use out of the atmosphere then an armed space shuttle.
Besides, how can you not love a big, heavy, lumbering ox of a fighter?

Heh, I can't wait to see the competition, this really was a great idea.
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 22:29
Lol, yea, that's why I entered it. Besides, it wouldn't be much more use out of the atmosphere then an armed space shuttle.
Besides, how can you not love a big, heavy, lumbering ox of a fighter?

Heh, I can't wait to see the competition, this really was a great idea.

OOC: Thanks.
Sileetris
10-01-2005, 23:18
OOC: Its feasible......... http://science.howstuffworks.com/air-breathing-rocket.htm The Valefor can use a disposable rocket booster to make it to space from its maximum altitude, and we have kits to convert it to a dedicated space fighter, but I don't think any of this will come into play during a dogfight....
Ma-tek
10-01-2005, 23:53
"Rivette MI Corporation is interested in entering the RV-118 Thunder, the only primitive multirole strike jet we have ever deigned to design. Information is included in an underlying data packet."

~ Rivette MI Corporation - Global Marketing Division


Specifications

Role: Tactical Assault/Defence Jet
Crew: 1 OR 2 (pilot, navigator)
Length: 32.12ft
Wingspan: 47.80 ft.
Height: 14.68 ft.

Empty Weight: 14,000 lb.
Maximum Weight: 40,000 lb.
Fuel Weight: 19,900 lb.
Armament Weight: 5,000-20,000 lb.

Powerplant: 4x RVM420/TT mk4; 1x IST790 MFP
Maximum Thrust: 136,490 lbs
Maximum Speed: 5.2 Mach

Initial Climb Rate: 46,000 ft/min (manned); 62,000ft/min (unmanned)
Service Ceiling: 79,420ft (manned); 92,650 ft. (unmanned)
Range: 36,000nmi
G-Limits: -15 / +20

Weapons: TOTAL EXTERNAL HARDPOINTS= 0
4x internal/external gunport hardpoints, iris ports (ELS method)
2x Rivette mk6 EME chaingun
Total armament weight that can be carried: 20,000 pounds

Defensive systems: 4x ECM/RBS pod
1x H/I EI pod

Computer equipment: 1x Rihad Industries FCI Tactical Awareness HUD (75 degree view system with integrated TAS tie-in)
1x Rivette TAS
4x Dth'gari Industries MTTAU

Cabin specifications: Cabin filled with perfluorocarbon for increased blood-oxygen saturation/efficiency ratio, increased g-tolerance for pilot

Cost: $96 Million USD

[OOC: Those abbreviations in full:

RVM - Rivette MI
TT - 'Trembling' Thruster (a type of jet engine so named by Rivette for its uncommonly high capacity to sustain extreme vibration, i.e., a particuarly durable engine)
IST - Imperial Space Technologies; a company that builds various things, generally under subcontracts to other companies
MFP - Micro-fusion pile. Naturally, this would in fact be absent to those who don't use high-tech stuff, as its not critical at all except in extremely long-duration missions. The range is virtually unlimited with an MFP reactor on board, so the range limit given represents the limit without such a reactor.
ELS - Electronic Launch System. A simple system providing automated loading and launching of various types of kill vehicle from a stowed gunport, unifying all aspects of delivery of the kill vehicle to the air.
EME - Electromagnetically Enhanced. An EME chaingun is a hybrid weapon - an automatic railgun, if you like, but significantly less powerful than a typical railgun. It doesn't fire slugs, or bullets, but small metal pellets. The pellets weigh less than 0.01 grams, and are about half a millimetre in diameter, but are made of a tough, heat-resistant substance and are fired at the target at high velocity - making them much closer to being a truly kinetic weapon, rather than a thermal/kinetic combination weapon.
ECM/RBS - Electronic Countermeasure/RadiationBlastSystem. A jamming device designed to prevent enemy lock attainment devices from providing an attacking vessel with a firing solution; doubles as a broad-band radio jamming device.
H/I EI - High Intensity Electronic Interference device. Intended to interfere with electronic instrumentation on enemy aircraft, at a distance of 500 metres. Not a particuarly effective weapon, really, but rather annoying to enemy pilots.
TAS - Threat Assessment System.
MTTAU - Multiple Target Tactical Assignment Unit. A device which determines, from input from the TAS, which objects need to be eliminated most quickly, and feeds the pilot relevant data on the best attack posture required to meet that goal, based on other data from the TAS. This system, and the TAS, are at their most effective when coupled with satelite/spy plane data regarding ground installations.]
Upper Xen
10-01-2005, 23:57
"Rivette MI Corporation is interested in entering the RV-118 Thunder, the only primitive multirole strike jet we have ever deigned to design. Information is included in an underlying data packet."

~ Rivette MI Corporation - Global Marketing Division



OOC: Hmm....looks nice, can you send a pic?

Anyway, you're in.
Ma-tek
11-01-2005, 22:16
OOC: Hmm....looks nice, can you send a pic?

Anyway, you're in.

[OOC: Not really...but if you can find an image of the 'Bird of Prey' concept aircraft designed by Boeing recently...then you'll have an excellent idea of what this particular bird looks like. Back-swept wings, sharp, angular nose, with heat-resistant flaps covering the afterburners (which are the reason for four engines rather than two - the latter two are redundant and only used for a greater push, which is also why the cabin is PFC filled: obviously, a human would die with that sort of acceleration). Oh, and the aircraft is black, as low-reflection paint (which is obviously only the best low-light-return paint available today) is used to reduce night-time visibility.]
Neo Cannen
15-01-2005, 22:39
bump (are we going to start)
Upper Xen
16-01-2005, 03:04
It begins the 28th of January
Anarresa
16-01-2005, 04:12
For Ma-Tek

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20021019/226bird2.jpg
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20021019/226bird1.jpg
Upper Xen
19-01-2005, 20:57
OOC: The time is near, the 28th is next week. Just one question.

I want to do a series of Speed, Endurance (Furthest Range), and Combat Performance Tests, along with a Best Design Prize.

How should I arrange them? I also will need judges who are experienced in aircraft design, and have RPed doing air combat fights.
The Real ALM
21-01-2005, 21:00
bump
Upper Xen
23-01-2005, 17:18
bump
Anarresa
23-01-2005, 23:49
OOC: For combat performance I imagine you'll want to test them against a variety of drones. All the rest are pretty much straighforward statistics tests. The only 'if' are survival tests (if you plan on conducting them)
Democratic Colonies
23-01-2005, 23:52
ooc: The personalties of the pilots involved will probably be an interesting reflection of the nation that they're representing too. ie, I think DA will send an older experienced white male, while I'll send a spunky young female with next to no combat experience. Just a guess on my part, but I'm curious to see the variety of pilots that we all send forwards.
Upper Xen
24-01-2005, 02:20
OOC: For combat performance I imagine you'll want to test them against a variety of drones. All the rest are pretty much straighforward statistics tests. The only 'if' are survival tests (if you plan on conducting them)

I will do survival tests, I'll fly em from one corner of China to another.

And as for combat ,I was thinking about a Street Fighter-type elimination thing using dummy rounds and laser tag systems.
Kyanges
24-01-2005, 02:28
Dummy rounds? Laer tag systems? What about simulated missile attacks?
Upper Xen
24-01-2005, 16:13
Dummy rounds? Laer tag systems? What about simulated missile attacks?

OOC: That'll be covered as well, though I am not sure how that would work....perhaps dummy missiles, that fragment upon impact and register as a hit?
Kyanges
24-01-2005, 18:29
OOC: That'll be covered as well, though I am not sure how that would work....perhaps dummy missiles, that fragment upon impact and register as a hit?


Umm, no, simulated lock-ons, and simulated hits should suffice.
Upper Xen
24-01-2005, 18:35
Umm, no, simulated lock-ons, and simulated hits should suffice.
Cool.

My nation's history has been updated. Wanna See?
Sileetris
25-01-2005, 00:47
So there is no confusion during the tournament, I'd like to point out that the Valefor has an active anti-missile countermeasure, so the system needs to be capable of registering a radar simulated missile being shot down.
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 01:06
So there is no confusion during the tournament, I'd like to point out that the Valefor has an active anti-missile countermeasure, so the system needs to be capable of registering a radar simulated missile being shot down.

"Rest assured, this system can recognize such an event."

Klimenti Rokossovsky
Director
National Armscorp
Kyanges
25-01-2005, 01:12
UX, return to SBC if you will.
Kargucagstan
25-01-2005, 01:39
OOC where did you guys get the pics for your aircraft? Im designing one (not for this contest, for Kargucagstanian use only), and i cant seem to find a pic that matches.
ISAF
25-01-2005, 01:53
Google Image search, but get some coffee brewing because you'll be there for a while...
Kargucagstan
25-01-2005, 02:04
great...
Mauiwowee
25-01-2005, 02:34
OOC: Hows this?

The Head Rush Multi-Purpose Jet

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/8849/mauix48jet3vf.jpg

Specs:

Primary Function: Multi-Function fighter/bomber/transport
Contractor: W.M.D., Inc.
Crew: Two (Pilot, co-pilot)
Unit Cost: 41 Million
Powerplant: four (4)General Electric YJ97-GE-4 turbojet engines. Each engine capable of producing up to 50,000 lb thrust (with afterburner).

Dimensions
Length: 201 ft, 0 in
Wingspan: 115 ft, 0 in
Height: 32 feet, 4 in

Weights
Empty: Over 450,000 pounds
Loaded: 584,700 lbs. loaded

Construction

"Samuri Folded" Titanium steel body with "thin sheet" spent uranium armoring (surrounding cockpit, around fuel tanks and landing gear)

Defensive Measures
1. Targeted EMP
2. Stealth, radar absorbing paint
3. Engine heat dissapation systems
4. Missile deflection systems

Performance
Speed: Mach 2.5 average cruising (3.25 maximum with afterburners engaged)
Ceiling: 77,350 ft.
Range: Intercontinental

Armament:
1. Internal M61A2 20-mm cannon

2. Three internal weapons bays, underside bay for four AIM-120A AMRAAMs and two lateral intake bays each with two AIM-9M sidewinder AAMs; or

3. Revised bays for 1,000 lb JDAMs replacing two AIM-120s and AIM-9X AAMs; and

4. Four underwing stores stations with provision for two AGM-137A Tri-Service Standoff Arrack Missiles and / or fuel tanks.

5. Nuclear Weapon capabilities: Classified

6. 40,000 lbs. in ordinance (when configured for use as a bomber)

Cargo Capabilities
1. 32,000 lbs; or
2. 15 persons and 11,000 lbs
NOTE: weapons limited to 20-mm canon and 4 AIM-9M Sidewinder AAMs when modified for cargo/troop transport use.

Misc:
1. Radar and Infra-red, computer aided targeting systems
2. "heads up" display
3. Inflight re-fueling capable
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 02:54
Mauiwowee, you're in.

No more designs can be submitted. We have reached the cutoff of fifteen.

There will be a set of competitions.

We will test for endurance, combat performance, best design, and speed.

Endurance: Consists of a flight from Kashi, in Xenizen Xinjiang, to Shanghai, and back. The plane with the least failures and mid air refuling stops will win this prize.

Speed: This is a race. A set of check points will be set up, your objective is to get from checkpoint to checkpoint in the least amount of time. The final finishing time will be the inclusive times counted at the checkpoints, and the winner is the one with the fastest time. Mid-air refueling and pit stops are not exempted for time, plan accordingly.

Comnbat Performance: This is an Elimination contest. Pairs of fighters will be selected to face each other in combat using simulated rounds and radar-simulated missiles. There will be accounting for countermeasures against missiles, like point defense lasers and chaff, plan accordingly. There will be qualifiying, then Semifinals, and finally Finals, where the two best will face off. The winner of this competition gets the Combat Prize.

Best Design: This will be judged by aircraft technicians and experts from around the world. We will look at each design, and judge its qualities accordingly, using a percent grade system. Good marks are given to beneficial features like low radar crosssection, points are taken off for bad marks, like excess drag. The winner who scores at least 95% will win this competition.

The winner of three out of four of these competitions gets the prize money, second place gets USD$5,000,000,000, and third gets USD$1,000,000,000.
Mauiwowee
25-01-2005, 03:46
Thank you, we look forward to the competition. Since the combat simulation tests will involve only simulated missile attacks, we thought we should provide your judging staff with information regarding the Targeted EMP (© & NS Patented - Mauiwowee) devices our air craft use.

The device uses a "deflector dish" arrangement to "beam" an EMP pulse at a target which has been identified as an incoming missile by the radar/computer interface. The computer targets the course and speed of the incoming weapon as well as the course and speed of the aircraft and sends out the pulse (actually it is a seriers of pulses at millisecond intervals creating a sort of "laser" or "ray" of pulses) with the idea of intercepting the missile. If the missile is intercepted, each and everyone of its electronic systems, in particular guidance and detonation controls, will shut down completely and the missile will be "flying wild" or "flying blind" and subject to the whims of it's speed, trajectory at the time of shutdown, and random wind and air pressure forces. Great Defensive weapon, right? Well, it does have it's limits:

1. As a focused "beam" of EMP pulses (neccessary to ensure it doesn't knock out electronics on the craft that is firing it) the incoming missile must be caught within the "beam" or it will have no effect. A sudden course change by the plane firing the targeted EMP device or a sudden course change by the missile could cause a "miss." Tarteting is relegated exclusively to the plane's computer & radar systems to ensure that an acquired target is properly aimed at - however, if the pilot ignores the "target acquired" signal and makes a sudden course change, the beam will miss.

2. Due to "conification" of the beam (i.e. the tendency of the beam to spread into a cone and lose it's tightly focused "laserlike" cohesion in the atmosphere, due to refractive and natural radiation issues) the effective range of the beam drops off to the point that it is useless at ranges beyond 5 miles at sea level and useless beyond 3 miles at an altitude of 75,000 feet.

3. The "pulses" or the "beam" can only be fired constantly for about 20 seconds before the pulse generating system must shut off and recharge (that takes about 10-15 seconds) before a new beam can be fired.

4. Overall accuracy of the system is a complicated function of speed of the incoming missile, speed of the aircraft, air density (i.e. altitude), naturally occuring radiation (it works better in the dark than in the sunlight), course of the plane and missile and other factors, including operator error. However, in tests, we have established a baseline figure of 90% accuracy in a craft at 50,000 feet traveling at Mach 2.5 facing an incoming missile traveling at the same altitude, at a speed of Mach 4.0 in daylight at a distance of 1.5 miles.
Democratic Colonies
25-01-2005, 04:03
The Head Rush Multi-Purpose Jet is way over the maximum weight requirements. I understand that the limits are slightly flexible, but this is far beyond flexing the rules - the Head Rush is 420,000 pounds over the maximum empty weight limit. I'm not afraid of a little competition, but when I volunteered to represent the Democratic Colonies in this contest, I didn't exactly expect to find myself getting into a dogfight with something that's heavier then a B-52 bomber.

- Commander Grace Lewis, Colonial Airforce
Designated Pilot, International Aircraft Challenge, Team DC
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/NationStates/83cc0a4a.jpg)
Mauiwowee
25-01-2005, 04:30
The Head Rush Multi-Purpose Jet is way over the maximum weight requirements. I understand that the limits are slightly flexible, but this is far beyond flexing the rules - the Head Rush is 420,000 pounds over the maximum empty weight limit. I'm not afraid of a little competition, but when I volunteered to represent the Democratic Colonies in this contest, I didn't exactly expect to find myself getting into a dogfight with something that's heavier then a B-52 bomber.

- Commander Grace Lewis, Colonial Airforce
Designated Pilot, International Aircraft Challenge, Team DC
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/NationStates/83cc0a4a.jpg)

Democratic Colonies complaint is well taken and we apologize for missing the weight requirement in the contest rules. We would say, we'd like to stay in and see how well our craft function in the contest, but understand if we must be disqualified. A bigger plane should be easier to hit in combat though and we acknowledge also that the plane is not as manuverable as some of the other craft tendered for the contest due to its size. We will abide by the decision of the contest organizers however and withdraw our planes if need be.

Respectfully,
Mauiwowee
Democratic Colonies
25-01-2005, 06:05
Democratic Colonies complaint is well taken and we apologize for missing the weight requirement in the contest rules. We would say, we'd like to stay in and see how well our craft function in the contest, but understand if we must be disqualified. A bigger plane should be easier to hit in combat though and we acknowledge also that the plane is not as manuverable as some of the other craft tendered for the contest due to its size. We will abide by the decision of the contest organizers however and withdraw our planes if need be.

Respectfully,
Mauiwowee

I, my organization, and my nation are prepared to accept the ruling of the judges, whatever that may be. If it is concluded that the Head Rush is suitible for this contest, despite its size and weight, then I and the Democratic Colonies have no complaint. My only concern, personally, is whether or not the titanic proportions of the Head Rush will lead to it having an unfair advantage - the Head Rush's empty weight is nearly 19 times that of the empty weight of the Peacemaker. However, again, if the judges believe that the size of the Head Rush will not lead to any unfair advantages, then I and my country would be happy to see the Head Rush included in this competition.

- Commander Grace Lewis, Colonial Airforce
Designated Pilot, International Aircraft Challenge, Team DC
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/JC_Denton/NationStates/83cc0a4a.jpg)
Anarresa
25-01-2005, 06:31
I wouldn't be too concerned, especally in the combat tests. The Head-Rush is huge, its going to be a lot less manuverable than the smaller fighters.
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 20:12
OOC: Crap. My bad.....yeah, Mauiwowee, I hate to say this, but I gotta let you go.....450,000 pounds is way too much. You are disqualified.
Roman Republic
25-01-2005, 21:49
So which Aircraftdesign and contractor are you going to pick??
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 21:52
So which Aircraftdesign and contractor are you going to pick??

Everybody else but Mauiwowee is staying on for the competition.

Relax, you will get a chance to compete RR.

As for everybody, DC has made her character for the Competition, so get ready, start making up or bringing out characters who will be flying these jets.

The contest itself will not begin until the 28th, but I want to see what kinds of personalities I am dealing with...
Democratic Colonies
25-01-2005, 22:09
As for everybody, DC has made her character for the Competition, so get ready, start making up or bringing out characters who will be flying these jets.


ooc: I'm actually a guy, but I suppose it is pretty hard to tell online. :)
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 22:16
ooc: I'm actually a guy, but I suppose it is pretty hard to tell online. :)

OOC: You got me there.

I can also tell you're a sci-fi fan, saw your infantry gear thread, and the Starship Troopers armor.

Starship Troopers, nice book, the movie is a bit shallow, but some guy still managed to do a thirty page thesis on it and how "Starship Troopers" the book promotes fascism and how the move is both a gorefest and a warning against fascism. Funny, huh?
Democratic Colonies
25-01-2005, 22:39
Starship Troopers, nice book, the movie is a bit shallow, but some guy still managed to do a thirty page thesis on it and how "Starship Troopers" the book promotes fascism and how the move is both a gorefest and a warning against fascism. Funny, huh?

Starship Troopers, the film, is a fun violent gorefest in my opinion. You could make a case for it as a satire, and I think that it does work in that way as well as a warning against facism, but most of the time, I just enjoy it as an over the top, violence glorifying, sci-fi war movie filled with ridiculously beautiful people. The retro feel of it, the over the top nature - I love that movie. It's basically a retro propaganda movie, fun stuff as long as you don't take it the wrong way. It's an odd movie, and I think it's usually hate it or love it with most people. If you thought that the movie was a bit shallow, which I'll agree with, did you enjoy it at all?
Upper Xen
25-01-2005, 23:19
Starship Troopers, the film, is a fun violent gorefest in my opinion. You could make a case for it as a satire, and I think that it does work in that way as well as a warning against facism, but most of the time, I just enjoy it as an over the top, violence glorifying, sci-fi war movie filled with ridiculously beautiful people. The retro feel of it, the over the top nature - I love that movie. It's basically a retro propaganda movie, fun stuff as long as you don't take it the wrong way. It's an odd movie, and I think it's usually hate it or love it with most people. If you thought that the movie was a bit shallow, which I'll agree with, did you enjoy it at all?

OOC: Are you kidding? I actually thought it was kinda cool....they had a 3d CG series, "Starship Troopers Chronicles." Loved that too.
Democratic Colonies
26-01-2005, 03:42
OOC: Are you kidding? I actually thought it was kinda cool....they had a 3d CG series, "Starship Troopers Chronicles." Loved that too.

Good to see that I'm not the only one that loved it.

I wonder if we'll get any more fighters involved in this. If you had thought that the Head Rush was suitable for the contest, I would have been fine with flying against it - it does look like a pretty neat design. Has The Phoenix Militia submitted a design? One of his might be interesting.
Soviet Bloc
26-01-2005, 06:40
OOC- Here's a dossier on the two crewman entering to pilot the F-79A Molniya II. Yes its haphazard... But... Eh, nevermind.




PERSONNEL RECORDS
-Pilot/WSO Combination ['999th' Show Wing] (F-79A Block I Molniya II 'Simbir')
Major Mikhail 'Simbir' Yakolev (Primary - Full Disclosure), Captain Ivan 'Zver' Kerensky (Secondary - Little Mention)



Major Yakolev (Callsign 'Simbir') was born in the primarily agricultural District VII, near the city of Rensgrad, farming with his father and his uncle on the family farm. After graduating from high-school, he worked on his father's farm for a further year before attending the Rostov Airshow, a premier event held annually at Rostov International Airport. He was fascinated by the aircraft, their maneuverability, and speed, especially the new, at the time, F-57A Molniya air superiority fighter, which made its debut at that air show. Upon returning home, he became only the second member of the Yakolov family to attent college, graduating in four years from Rostov College of Science. He registered with the air force and entered officer training school, graduating in the top ten percent of his class.

He was now eligible for pilot training, which he quickly took up, learning to pilot numerous birds before settling on the F-57A Molniya. Two months after graduating pilot school, the young man was quickly sent to war with the 145th Fighter Wing, stationed in Vogelsang, Buechoria. He took part in dozens of battles in the Buechorian skies, scoring at least fourteen confirmed kills, two of them being with the F-57A's 30mm cannon at close range during the so-called "Coastal Advance," a massive coordinated counter-attack against Belem forces in the region, pushing them back to the sea.

After a cease-fire was signed, many of the fighter pilots were forced to stay, in the event of a return of hostilities. Yakolev, then a captain, was given permission to return home. After a few months of recuperation, he was sent back to the tense Buechorian theatre of operations where he took the reigns of a newly constructed F-57C Molniya. A month after returning, the ARSB launched a massive, debilitating surprise attack against the Belem positions, whose forces were planning to attack Soviet Bloc and Buechorian positions. Soon after, the war once again fizzled out, eventually ending in a 'peace treaty.' Yakolev, during the operation, scored eight more kills but he was shot down over the Buechorian mainland. By the time he had recovered from injuries sustained, the war was over and he was sent home.

Soon, he was trained with the F-79A Molniya II, which was now entering service. However, the military was unhappy with the Molniya II design, only keeping it for about four years. Immediately after, a new design was commissioned, the F-78A Sokol next generation air superiority fighter, which was a quantum leap in technology compared to the Molniya II, entered service two years later.

Dat' Pizdy Arms Corp. in conjunction with the Soviet Bloc government, agreed to sell the F-79A Molniya II as an export fighter, using the proceeds to make up for the financial loss. Pilots were needed to demonstrate the F-79A as a competitive aircraft, which led to the selection of two dozen crew (including Yakolev) to pilot the '999th Show Wing' of about ten aircraft, all F-79A Block I aircraft.


Major Mikhail Yakolev has shown an incredible liking to the 'Molniya' series of aircraft, choosing not to re-train with the F-78A Sokol, but remain with the F-79A Molniya II. He was quickly chosen into the cadre of pilots in the '999th' primarily due to his outstanding service record with the aircraft, he had more experience then the rest of the entrants.


During the first Belem conflict, Major Yakolev was teamed with First Lieutenant Ivan 'Zver' Kerensky as his weapons service officer. Kerensky is also one of the best at his profession, albeit only for the F-79A series. He originally wished to retrain for the F-78A Sokol, but failed the initial entrance exam, especially the DNI acceptance test. He was then given the offer to remain as an F-79A WSO, which he accepted. The two (Yakolev and Kerensky) served together in a total of forty sorties during the first war. During the second war, they served each sortie together until their aircraft was shot down by a Belem air to air missile. Kerensky has shown an incredible aptitude to the F-79A's radar, targetting, and fire control systems and performed well under high-stress conditions, being able to line up targets for Yakolev while simultaneously attempting to thwart an incoming air to air missile using the aircraft's electronic countermeasures. Kerensky was successful in doing so and was credited with 'shooting down' some sixty to seventy air to air missiles using the onboard selective jamming, microwave emitter, and active radar cancellation systems. He was also awarded the 'Outstanding Officer Award' for saving the lives of at least three crews by the use of electronics countermeasures. He was simultaneously promoted to Captain.
Upper Xen
26-01-2005, 15:14
No Sweat. How about this instead, My:

Bong Buster II

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/9116/finalad.jpg

Aircraft Type: Air superiority/ multirole fighter
Manufacturer: W.M.D., Inc.
Crew: One
Powerplant: Two KLM-112A PDE/Turbofan hybrids 3D vector-thrusted + supercruise capable at mach 2.8
Powerplant output: 42,700 kg each
VTOL capable: Yes
Max speed: Mach 3.5
Dimensions: Wingspan: 14.92 meters Overall length: 18.47 meters Height: 4.58 meters
Weight: 29,500 lbs - unladen
Flight systems:
AI assisted laser targeting computer
WHUD virtual environment cockpit
WARNET satellite uplink
Sensors:
LIDAR
RADAR (pulse DOPPLER)
Infrared system (thermal imager)
Material detecting sensor
Night-vision system
ECM:
Targeted EMP system
AI controlled LAM (laser anti missile system)
AI controlled computer/missile jamming system
Stealth systems:
New Empirian made "Athena Mk-III" active stealth system
Built in RADAR absorbent materials
"Shade"II active camouflage system (scenery mimicking fiber optics)
Heat masking on engines and some weapon systems (aerogel)
Maneuverability aiding systems:
360 degree thrust vectoring
Mission adaptive/aero elastic wings (micro hydraulics)
Variable geometry "swing wings" rotate from forward swept to swept on a horizontal axis for increased speed.
Three small gyroscopes are mounted throughout the aircraft for increased stability and maneuverability
Weapons systems:
One 25mm SRK-110 "Mauler" hyper velocity gatling cannon mounted under cockpit
One "Avenger" anti-aircraft HELLADS (High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System) rated at 305 Kw per one pulse mounted in front of the cockpit along the nose.
15 modifiable munitions bays: 7 forward mounted mini missile compartments + 8 underwing MRM/LRM standoff bays

OOC: Looked it over, I'll allow it!
Mauiwowee
27-01-2005, 04:50
OOC: Looked it over, I'll allow it!

OOC: Thanks

IC:

Colonel Christina Stepford walked around her Bong Buster jet that she had christened "One Hit." She had given the plane this name since that's all she had ever had to do to take out a target - one hit, and they were gone. She had been a little sad for her friend, Manuel Fawlty when his Head Rush had been disqualified from the competition, but was elated when General Jack T. Ripper himself informed her that she would be flying her plane for Mauiwowee in the competition. She had been there in her plane when Nikolas the Greek sank her carrier in Mauiwowee's ill fated attempt to save Euroslavia from the communists. She remembered the battle that took out the rebels that had tried to overthrow Sarzonia's government, and in each case, she had not only escaped, she had lived up to her plane's name - "One Hit" taking out planes, tanks and even on one occasion, a surfacing submarine, with one hit from her missiles.

Christina, like all citizens of Mauiwowee, entered the military upon graduation from high school. Once there, she had chosen the navy as the branch she wished to serve in. Her father and mother were both private pilots and flying a plane and thinking in 3D, as a combat pilot must be able to do, came as naturally to her as swimming did to a surfer boy. She had never married, but had, had more than a few lovers. She was 5'6" tall exactly and beautiful by any standard. She had won the silver diamond with crossed hemp leaves on 2 occasions and been named "Combat Pilot Trainee of the Year" while in flight school. She was a force to be reckoned with and her reaction time and dexterity were ranked in the 99th percentile on the Mauiwowee Jet Pilot Physical Ability Scale Exam. She was a squad leader and knew how to lead a squad, something not all squad leaders could really do. She had the admiration of those in her unit and the respect now of the Chief of Staff for all of Mauiwowee's military, General Ripper. She would make Mauiwowee and General Ripper proud, she was sure of it.

:: Photo of Colonel Christina Stepford ::

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/5259/missmauiwowee3wx.jpg
Upper Xen
28-01-2005, 21:38
http://www.brentozar.com/archives/2004/07/11/ron.jpg

"Hello, Upper Xen, this is Ron Burgundy. Tonight's top story, the International Aircraft Competition begins."

"All over China and Japan, people are mobilizing to welcome the very prestigious contestants in this competition, such as Hallad and Democratic Colonies, featuring events like Best Design, and the much anticipated Combat Performance Showdown."

"Many are already betting in the casinos over who will win, so far, the heaviest bets seem to be on DA, Democratic Colonies, and Mauiwowee."

"This is Ron Burgundy reporting, more updates later. You stay classy, Upper Xen."

OOC: Translation: The competition begins today.
Upper Xen
28-01-2005, 21:51
OOC: Here are the Qualifying Pars for each Competition.

GROUP ONE:
Hallad
VoteEarly

GROUP TWO:
Tyrandis
Mauiwowee

GROUP THREE:
Democratic Colonies
Dostuanot Loj

GROUP FOUR:
Tonissia
Ma-Tek

GROUP FIVE:
Anaressa
Roman Republic

GROUP SIX:
ISAF
Soviet Bloc
Mauiwowee
28-01-2005, 22:16
OOC: Just so ya'll know, my RP ability is sporadic and generally limited to late at night over the weekends.

IC:
Colonel Stepford thought to herself - I'm gonna kick some Tyrandian ass!
Upper Xen
28-01-2005, 22:19
OOC: Just so ya'll know, my RP ability is sporadic and generally limited to late at night over the weekends.

IC:
Colonel Stepford thought to herself - I'm gonna kick some Tyrandian ass!

Well, so long as you can get here, it is fine with me.

I made the IC thread, feel free to make a big entrance.
Upper Xen
03-02-2005, 22:13
OOC: For all those who I reminded, the thread is here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393145