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Fellow nations,

We have encountered a terrible problem lately. The communists have grown way too powerful. The Friends of Dubya proposes that all interested capitalist and fascist nations act quickly to end this disgusting growth.

If you are a capitalist or fascist nation, that is militaristic, and willing to act, please respond. We will stage a military assault. :sniper:

Huzzah! We will join you in arms The Friends of Dubya.

In response to what we have also recognized as a problem, Plutocratic Maniacs will mobilize:

-23,000 M1-A1 Abrahms Armored Tanks
-285,000 Marines
-560,000 Infantry
-2700 F-21's
-Our naval fleet is always mobilized

In addition, we have issued a general draft throughout Plutocratic Maniacs, our military can reach 9,000,000 if necessary.

Huzzah! We will join you in arms The Friends of Dubya.

In response to what we have also recognized as a problem, Plutocratic Maniacs will mobilize:

-23,000 M1-A1 Abrahms Armored Tanks
-285,000 Marines
-560,000 Infantry
-2700 F-21's
-Our naval fleet is always mobilized

In addition, we have issued a general draft throughout Plutocratic Maniacs, our military can reach 9,000,000 if necessary.]

IGNORED your army is a godmod, for a nation of your size.

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This whole thing is disgraceful. Why can't we all get along?

Cantalopya acknowledges how incompetent you right wing nut jobs are and is placing its standing military on alert.

((OOC: While your intentions are noble enough to bring me to tears, I must say that you are doomed to all die horribly painful deaths, mostly at the hands of Hogsweat and other likeminded nations, on account of your ridiculously small size. In other words: give up. You can't win.))

OOC: Hogsweat, what the hell are you talking about? We have 583,000,000 people. We have an exceptional economy, and a dictatorship (i.e. high productivity, ridiculous military).

IC: In response to Cantalopya,

You represent the foe that we are going to destroy. Our dictator challenges your leader to a duell. The weapon of choice will be 18th century pistols. :mp5:

We, The Armed Republic of Godsonia would like to lend 200,000 of our brave infantry to assist your noble cause of cutting the cancer that is Communisim. We would also like to offer the use of our new Space Weapons Program. We have so long been looking forward for a chance to test our equipment out.

Would you like to get acquinted with a few of my friends? They're long, thin, heavy, and tend to go off in a big way.

We, The Armed Republic of Godsonia would like to lend 200,000 of our brave infantry to assist your noble cause of cutting the cancer that is Communisim. We would also like to offer the use of our new Space Weapons Program. We have so long been looking forward for a chance to test our equipment out.
GODMOD:IGNORED

I must fight against your idiotic cause. I will send 5 men with distinct personalities and a strangely large amount of ammo. If movies have taught us anything it is that these men will be enough to take down your entire military operation.

I must fight against your idiotic cause. I will send 5 men with distinct personalities and a strangely large amount of ammo. If movies have taught us anything it is that these men will be enough to take down your entire military operation.

You forgot a talking dog as a sidekick !

Damn .. they would be the original odd group, but with a talking dog twist !

Hi-Larious.

OOC: How is that godmoding? Untested space weapons tech is hardley 100% and probably wont work out anyways, and 200,000 troops is a pretty modest offering, especially in a country of 251 million with mandatory millitary service.

The Benevolent Socialist Nation of Rebepacitopia has issued this statement:


Nations of the world,

when you combat socialism/communism you combat our nation and the entire Greater Socialist Realm. You should carefully consider the repercussions of what you are doing.

In response to the fascist/capitalist troop movements Rebepacitopia has called for a full alert throughout its ranks.

OOC: How is that godmoding? Untested space weapons tech is hardley 100% and probably wont work out anyways, and 200,000 troops is a pretty modest offering, especially in a country of 251 million with mandatory millitary service.
Sorry, I forgot we are in december. 200,000 isn't modest, but acceptable.
IGNORE REPEALED

You forgot a talking dog as a sidekick !

Damn .. they would be the original odd group, but with a talking dog twist !

Hi-Larious.

A talking dog?. Nah, but a dog is a good idea. It is a specially trained dog trained to bite people in ways so that they say something humourous then die in an overdramatic way. Beware, it is coming.

Are you all engaging in this stupid role play stuff? Umm...if that's the case, my country has developed the powers of mind control and has just made all fascists commit suicide - I guess the wars over now isn't it?

Attention Friends of Dubya,
I'm regret to inform you that the River Butcher Clan has unilaterally decided to send between four and sixteen people (depending on who shows up) to The Friends of Dubya. As far as I know they will be mostly armed with with Cricket Bats and a few of them might have large meat-cleavers. We've all been trying to dissuade them, but for some reason their hearts are set on it. Probably they will just set up some sort of stall and try to sell your citizens their organic meat, produce, and baked goods at very reasonable prices. But if they cause any trouble please deport them back over here rather than killing them. They are all idealistic youth and, I suppose, boys will be boys. I thank you in advance for your understanding and apologize for the inconveinance.

Sincerely,

Quick Richard, Paper Boat Clan
Foreign Ambassador, Federation of Trow Nationals

Highly unlikely,

yet if you can do the same to the capitalists....

OOC: How is that godmoding? Untested space weapons tech is hardley 100% and probably wont work out anyways, and 200,000 troops is a pretty modest offering, especially in a country of 251 million with mandatory millitary service.
Sorry, I forgot we are in december. 200,000 isn't modest, but acceptable.
IGNORE REPEALED

I must fight against your idiotic cause. I will send 5 men with distinct personalities and a strangely large amount of ammo. If movies have taught us anything it is that these men will be enough to take down your entire military operation.

Arnold Schwarzenegger(Twins) is an ex special forces operative turned kindergarden teacher called back into service when a communist country threatens the presedent's daughter with a nuclear weapon. He must join a rag tag team of the country's best to eleminate this threat. John Doe (Bruce Willis, Look Who's Talking Too) a burned out cop who's allways at the wrong place at the wrong time, Bill Grey(Sly, Over The Top) an ex boxer, Rocky Rhode(Bill Duke, Sister Act 2) a badass Green Beret, and Paco (Terry "Hulk" Hogan, Santa with Muscles) an ex-wrestler who thinks he's a commando from space. See the movie that Ebert calls a complete waste of celluloid. See Eradicator 3: Back to School :mp5:

Attention Trow Nationals:

Your river butcher clan is no longer a problem. We routinely executed all 16 of their members that we found loitering our streets. We have sent the head of one of them to your capital via air mail.
They were selling our citizens organic meat, produce, and baked goods at reasonable prices. Until our fuehrer passed their stand, one of the boys sneezed. They were promptly tortured and executed. We hope this hasn't damaged relations between our nations.

With love,

The Friends of Dubya

i would act against you but the fact that you dont look very seroious is a reason not to

A talking dog?. Nah, but a dog is a good idea. It is a specially trained dog trained to bite people in ways so that they say something humourous then die in an overdramatic way. Beware, it is coming.

Ah !, that could be a plan, it could bite people in hilarious, and random situations. Like a guy could be eating a taco and bam !, the dog bites his crotch .. funny !

Fellow nations,

We have encountered a terrible problem lately. The communists have grown way too powerful. The Friends of Dubya proposes that all interested capitalist and fascist nations act quickly to end this disgusting growth.

If you are a capitalist or fascist nation, that is militaristic, and willing to act, please respond. We will stage a military assault. :sniper:

The free land of Sirius Zero hereby declares neutrality in this war. We have no interest in initiating force against communist nations or in making cause with fascist nations or nations who claim to be capitalist while aligning themselves with fascist governments. The free land of Sirius Zero also warns that any troop movements through its land or air space will be viewed as an act of war and punished by the assassination of the offending nation's leaders.

Ah !, that could be a plan, it could bite people in hilarious, and random situations. Like a guy could be eating a taco and bam !, the dog bites his crotch .. funny !

Exactly. And of course it is assumed the dog, after biting a good few crotches, will infact chew through some vital wire, destroying a vital electronic network which for some reason has no back up.

Attention Trow Nationals:

Your river butcher clan is no longer a problem. We routinely executed all 16 of their members that we found loitering our streets. We have sent the head of one of them to your capital via air mail.
They were selling our citizens organic meat, produce, and baked goods at reasonable prices. Until our fuehrer passed their stand, one of the boys sneezed. They were promptly tortured and executed. We hope this hasn't damaged relations between our nations.

With love,

The Friends of Dubya

No, it's cool. Some guys are going to do some voodoo curse or something, but I wouldn't worry about that because (between you and me) all that voodoo is a bunch of bullshit. I mean, like, we're pretty pissed off and everything but we figure there's not much we can do about it. I think everyone here is just going to get really drunk or something. Also, about the head thing, we don't really have any airstrips for your airmail plane to land on, so if you wanted to just, like, parachute it down or something. Or, and I don't know if you've already sent it or what, but we could send someone over to pick it up and save you the postage fees.

Be seeing you,

Scott Coffin, Chief, River Butcher Clan

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway, altogether bored by The friends of Dubya's idiocy made a simple decision.

In the jungles of Mozambique and single rocket lifted off from its Silo and blazed into the upper atmospere, following a ballistic path, it detonated 2 miles above the friends of dubya. The massive EMP pulse from the nuclear explosion immediatly fried all electronics in the unfortunate country below.

Later when asked why such a move was made the Coordinator remarked, "Well, that should shut them up for the next hundred or so years."

Rebepacitopia expresses its deepest contempt for the friends of dubya.


Secret IC: Wirraway, if you wish, we can supply you with more munitions.

OOC: I'll go along with this but Wirraway you're godmoding when you report the results of a military assault from the perspective of an assaulted nation.

IC:

A great injustice has occurred today, The Friends of Dubya was nuked! :mad: Not only did this basic ICBM efface our electrical wiring in a large city, it killed 92,000 people.

In response to this unjustified attack, the friends of Dubya has completely mobilized 300,000 troops.

I hope you relize that the majority of Communist Nations in Nation-States are far larger than your allied forces, employing forces in the millions, while your armed forces remain in the thousands.

Furthermore, there are so many socialist nations on this forum, that you couldnt possibly conquer them all.

Although I am a capitalist nation, I will not participate in the conflict, due to the pure stupidity of this action.

Foolish mortals!!!!

Plutocratic maniacs is allied with the friends of dubya. We will respond with the utmost of our power, including using nuclear weapons if necessary.

OOC: I'll go along with this but Wirraway you're godmoding when you report the results of a military assault from the perspective of an assaulted nation.

IC:

A great injustice has occurred today, The Friends of Dubya was nuked! :mad: Not only did this basic ICBM efface our electrical wiring in a large city, it killed 92,000 people.

In response to this unjustified attack, the friends of Dubya has completely mobilized 300,000 troops.

OOC: Your right, but unless you sheilded all your electronics from a nuclear blast I thin it stands.

If you lay a finger against out nation we will crush you like the bug you are. Good day

-Wirrawayan High Command

Liberated Indonesia hates capitalism and fascism. We will destroy both at any cost. The friends of dubya would be wise to back off.

Exerpt from interview with THE David Hasselhoff II:
"The friends of dubya are :headbang: ,and since i am in the process procuring communist weapons I have no further comments at this time."

OOC: I'll go along with this but Wirraway you're godmoding when you report the results of a military assault from the perspective of an assaulted nation.

IC:

A great injustice has occurred today, The Friends of Dubya was nuked! :mad: Not only did this basic ICBM efface our electrical wiring in a large city, it killed 92,000 people.

In response to this unjustified attack, the friends of Dubya has completely mobilized 300,000 troops.

OOC: Heh, looks like you actually know how to NS RP. Damn, I was hoping I could just ignore and you would go away :P

IC;

Dear Sir/Madam,
As of 23rd December, I hereby declare a state of war exists between our two nations. The following sanctions have been placed upon your nation;
-Friends of Dubya may not train more than 100,000 Troops
-Friends of Dubya may not produce more than 500 Tanks
-Friends of Dubya may not produce more than 10 naval vessels
-Friends of Dubya may not produce more than 20 barrels of Oil per year
-Friends of Dubya may not produce more than 250 tonnes of staple foods a year (bread, potatoes. That's a total, btw.)
-Friends of Dubya's GDP may not exceed 1 Trillion Per Annum
Failure to meet with these demands will mean severe military retributions from Hogsweat. However, if you accept the sanctions then I shall make peace with your nation and you may live happily provided you are following the sanctions.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the RSUH (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/HogsweatCharacters/JosefDorsalEnd.jpg)
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

If a state of war is to exist between the benevolent, freedom loving people of hogsweat and the allied fascist/capitalists, we wish to aid hogsweat. In recognition of our cause, we will sympathetically declare war on Plutocratic Maniacs, The Friends of Dubya, and any other nations aiding them in their exploits.

We will pursue military action until an unconditional surrender is given on behalf of the aforementioned fascist/capitalist nations.

We are confident that (in addition to the military might of the Greater Socialist Realm) this threat will be effaced.

Our military allies within the Greater Socialist Realm (that have concurred with our mentality) are:

-Defacto Protagonists
-Redrevolutiavania
-Cantalopya
-The prophets of Urkel
-Peremptonia
-Liberated Indonesia
-Trouser Chili
-Itinerant mountebanks
-Faixonia

Additional nations pending.

We seriously advise the aforestated fascist/capitalist alliance to surrender if previous terms are not addressed and fulfilled.

X.N. Nitered
President
Rebepacitopia

I suppose it is too late to make any difference now but, if this is truly a war of ideologies, it should be remembered that fascism and capitalism are as ideologically opposed to each other as each is to communism. Fascism is essentially anti-rationalist and anti-materialist. The ideologies of fascism and capitalism are incompatible, as fascism, by definition, does not allow for free trade. I doubt, however, that any of you were concerned with having a justifiable purpose for fighting a war in the first place. Nonetheless, for the sake of accuracy, I wished to bring this apparently obsolete distinction to everyone's attention.

Sincerely,

Black Samuel, Six-Arm Monkey Clan, Federation of Trow Nationals

First, (Trow Nationals) Fascism is simply despotic reactionary militarism, capitalism is a system in which the means of production are privately (by a dictatorship perhaps?) or corporately owned. The two are highly compatible. In fact (I reference William L. Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich ) Hitler was an incredible advocate for capitalism.


Second, threats have been made against our great country, we will not tolerate this!
Consider yourselves at war with Plutocratic Maniacs. Many will die before this war sees its conclusion! Be warned.

hey, if you plan to get rid of communsism nations..............leave me out of it please. i will help ya if you need it. but, leave me out of it. cheers

OOC: You do realize that the WACL exists to do the same thing you plan to do, except we worded it far more eloquently?

Although being a capitalist nation myself, I shall not aid you in your futile quest. I warn you now, back off, your venture is not wise.

My nation is Capitalizt, but yet I dispise the son of a ... that are Nazis and Fascists, they aught to burn in whatever hell they believe in, and I can make that a truth, fact, and my 110% Satisfaction, for me anyway.

The crucial Communist Party of Shonar Bangla has threatened to pull out of the ruling centrist coalition administration, if the nation doesn't act upon this fascist/capitalist combine that wishes for the destruction of the liberated realms where the proletariat lives freely.
The Communist Party has greater command over the sprawling ghettoes that abound Shonar Bangla, and the mood is more militant here. The Mayor of Jessore (largest ghetto in Shonar Bangla and possibly India) went on the record with: "The reactionaries are now fearing for their lives, for the tides of the revolution have truly turned in the people's favor. The proletariat has awoken, and the bourgeosie is tucking tail and running. After millenia of oppression, we have finally come to the last stage of this glorious revolution. Let us finish them off!!"
Later that day, after threats from the Communist Party, the President Habibul Bashar declared, "The Secular Nationalist Republic of Shonar Bangla hereby declares total material support for the Communists. War will be averted for as long as possible, but if war does come to Shonar Bangla, we will be prepared. We will not attack, but we are masters on our soil. And, may I add, we have friends, powerful friends."

OOC: Here is a map of my region, you'll find me there:
http://www.freewebs.com/ns_india

Our war is quite justified. We would be forever indebted if the Anti-Communist league would aid us in our war. We thank you.

SuperSwitzerland would like to send you 10,000 of our troops to go to the front line of your armies in the battle and then spin around and take out anyone in your army they can before being killed you facist bastards :mp5: ;)

First, (Trow Nationals) Fascism is simply despotic reactionary militarism, capitalism is a system in which the means of production are privately (by a dictatorship perhaps?) or corporately owned. The two are highly compatible. In fact (I reference William L. Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich ) Hitler was an incredible advocate for capitalism.

Hitler was also not a Fascist. Fascism was an Italian nationalist movement closely related to the Futurist movement in art. I refer you to Mussolini's Fascist Manifesto. If a dictatorship owns the capital, then the capital is not privately owned. What you describe is a system in which the state owns the capital and the means of production, also known as Socialism. Furthermore, although Hitler left the means of production in the hands of the wealthy industrialist, de juris. De facto he had total control over the industrialists and, therefore, over their capital. And, not that this really matters, it was called the German National Socialist Party.

Love,

Black Sammy, Six-Arm Monkey Clan, Federation of Trow Nationals

Earlier this evening, the dictator of The Friends of Dubya released this statement:

"We have encountered a slew of nations that oppose our morally right ideals. They must be destroyed by any means necessary. We will put our own nation in danger's way to eradicate this menace. To those nations I say this: 'you've misunderestimated us!'"

Hitler was also not a Fascist. Fascism was an Italian nationalist movement closely related to the Futurist movement in art. I refer you to Mussolini's Fascist Manifesto. If a dictatorship owns the capital, then the capital is not privately owned. What you describe is a system in which the state owns the capital and the means of production, also known as Socialism. Furthermore, although Hitler left the means of production in the hands of the wealthy industrialist, de juris. De facto he had total control over the industrialists and, therefore, over their capital. And, not that this really matters, it was called the German National Socialist Party.

Love,

Black Sammy, Six-Arm Monkey Clan, Federation of Trow Nationals


You're a moron. Hitler only called his party the National SOCIALIST party to confuse voters. This was effective, he got several thousand additional votes as a result of confusion. People thought they were voting for actual socialism.
In communism/socialism when the state controls the means of production...it isn't capitalism! Since the people ARE the government, and the government owns the means of production...the people own the means of production! As a result it is not corporately or privately owned (as I believe Plutocratic Maniacs already stated).
Psssst...HITLER WAS A FASCIST!!!! Whoever taught you history should be fired.

Earlier this evening, the dictator of The Friends of Dubya released this statement:

"We have encountered a slew of nations that oppose our morally right ideals. They must be destroyed by any means necessary. We will put our own nation in danger's way to eradicate this menace. To those nations I say this: 'you've misunderestimated us!'"

So, you refuse our sanctions? Then you shall die.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the RSUH (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/HogsweatCharacters/JosefDorsalEnd.jpg)
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg


As soon as it was understood the Dubyans had ignored the sanctions, 18 Tupolev 160's took off from long range airbases in Chukraine, Western Hogsweat. They were escorted half way by Mig 25's, also from Chukraine, until the Mig 25's returned, and then a nearby carrier group began escorting the bombers. With a 40 strong escort of Yak 141's, the bombers entered Dubyain Airspace, and let loose with their H15 nuclear-payload missiles at the Dubyan capital, a total of 216 Nuclear-Tipped Missiles streaming straight down onto the Dubyan Capital... as the Tu 160's turned for home, the Yak 141's braced themselves for enemy contact...

To:All Nations Involved
From: Dictator Scharfetter

Fellow Nations,
The Dictatorship of East Lithuania wishes to inform you that although it has not officially declared war, we have decided to aid the Socilists/Communists by providing supplies and troops since we feel the Friends of Dubya have declared an unjust war. East Lithuania will provide the following:

20 M1-A1 Abrams
50 Blackhawks
50 F-16 Falcons
25 F-22 Raptors
20,000 Marine soldiers

We now bid you all farewell for now. Thank you.

Sincerly,
Dictator Scharfetter
Dictatorship of East Lithuania

Hogsweat:

We refuse to acknowledge your assault until you acknowledge the assault perpetrated by Plutocratic Maniacs. This is hypocrisy.
Besides, wouldn't it be inefficient to invest in Mig-25's *Foxhounds* considering they are only intended for modest use before they break down (Cheap russian crap).

To:All Nations Involved
From: Dictator Scharfetter

Fellow Nations,
The Dictatorship of East Lithuania wishes to inform you that although it has not officially declared war, we have decided to aid the Socilists/Communists by providing supplies and troops since we feel the Friends of Dubya have declared an unjust war. East Lithuania will provide the following:

20 M1-A1 Abrams
50 Blackhawks
50 F-16 Falcons
25 F-22 Raptors
20,000 Marine soldiers

We now bid you all farewell for now. Thank you.

Sincerly,
Dictator Scharfetter
Dictatorship of East Lithuania

We remind you that the declaration of war was initially proposed by Hogsweat. We are victims of circumstance. Second, we advise against what you are doing. Supplying our enemy will be considered an act of aggression and you will be held responsible for any damage done.

As far as I'm concerned, you've asked for an uprising againt all communist nations, and then you're saying that you'e a victim of circumstance, EL is commiting a act of aggression by providing supplies and it's all Hogsweat's fault?

You can acknowledge Hogsweat's assualt, he is not Godmodding and he is a far superior nation. I warned you not to continue with this, now you will see the damage you have caused.

To:Friends of Dubya
From:East Lithuania

Dear Friends of Dubya,
We understand what we are getting into. We do not want to be really involved in a war that not ours. However, since we feel that your cause is unjust and not sufficiant, we have just decided to supply Hogsweat with men and such. We will not declare war unless we feel threatined ourselfs

Sincerly,
Dictator Scharfetter
East Lithuania

Redrevolutiavania is outraged at the actions of the "fascist/capitalists" (or whatever the hell they are called).

In response Redrevolutiavania has mobilized:

-100,000 Marines
-150,000 Infantry
-2000 F-16's
-4th Armored Tank Division

Hogsweat:

We refuse to acknowledge your assault until you acknowledge the assault perpetrated by Plutocratic Maniacs. This is hypocrisy.
Besides, wouldn't it be inefficient to invest in Mig-25's *Foxhounds* considering they are only intended for modest use before they break down (Cheap russian crap).
Plutocratic Maniacs didn't make an attack. He just said he would. Now, take losses from my missiles. My russian tech can easily overpower your american stuff : )

Plutocratic Maniacs didn't make an attack. He just said he would. Now, take losses from my missiles. My russian tech can easily overpower your american stuff : )

OOC: Hogsweat, actually Plutocratic Maniacs DID attack you, he made a post, you can search for it.

You're a moron. Hitler only called his party the National SOCIALIST party to confuse voters. This was effective, he got several thousand additional votes as a result of confusion. People thought they were voting for actual socialism.

Gee, thanks! I hadn't realized that! I guess I am a moron! HA! HA! Did you just learn that in 8th grade history?

In communism/socialism when the state controls the means of production...it isn't capitalism! Since the people ARE the government, and the government owns the means of production...the people own the means of production! As a result it is not corporately or privately owned (as I believe Plutocratic Maniacs already stated).

Really? I thought capitalism and socialism were the SAME THING! Golly, you guys sure do know a lot about politics. But then, I guess you'd have to to pretend to fight wars so effectively.

Psssst...HITLER WAS A FASCIST!!!! Whoever taught you history should be fired.

No, my friend, Hitler was not a Fascist. Nazism and Fascism are two distinct political philosphies which disagree on many points. Mussolini and Hitler hated each other. The Axis was an organization of convienance, not ideology. Fascism is only a general term when used colloquially, or, I should say, incorrectly, which is apparently the only way you and your friends know how to use it. Once again, I refer you to Mussolini's Fascist Manifesto. And, while you're at it, why not pick up a copy of Marinetti's Futurist Manifesto. Both very engaging reads.

Love,

Tuxedo Mask

1.) it was not Hypocrisy, since he did it in another thread and I was not telegrammed about this.

2.) I semi-ignored his attack until he can answer my questions on how he got there.

Trow Nationals:

As much as I hate to say this...Plutocratic Maniacs/The Friends of Dubya are right :mad:
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The dictionary defines fascism as:
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of beligerent nationalism and racism.

The dictionary defines Nazism as:
The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.
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As you can see the two share a lot of ideals. Oppression, socioeconomic manipulation, dictatorships, nationalism, racism, etc....

For the record: Definitions taken from "The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language" (3rd Edition)(Houghton Mifflin Company)

sieg Heil! 1488

We, East Lithuania, would like to say that if you, Hogsweat, need any supplies from us, we would be glad to help

-East Lithuania

Trow Nationals:

As much as I hate to say this...Plutocratic Maniacs/The Friends of Dubya are right :mad:
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The dictionary defines fascism as:
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of beligerent nationalism and racism.

The dictionary defines Nazism as:
The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.
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As you can see the two share a lot of ideals. Oppression, socioeconomic manipulation, dictatorships, nationalism, racism, etc....

For the record: Definitions taken from "The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language" (3rd Edition)(Houghton Mifflin Company)


Yes, indeed, "stringent socioeconomic controls" and "state control of the economy," are very similar. They are also incompatible with pure Capitalism. So, thanks to Rebepacitopia's resourceful use of a dictionary, we have learned that Fascism and Capitalism are ideologically opposed on a very basic level, which, if you will recall, was my point in the first place.

ooc: o, and plus Hitler was just madman, let's just leave it at that.

whats so bad about communistis? theres no poor ppl and no rich ppl so its all good. plus hitler wasnt bad except he killed all those jews, and americans... (in those camps or w/e)

yeah..... politically he was a genius. But besides that he was a madman

yeah..... politically he was a genius. But besides that he was a madman

he wasn't crazy, he was just really insecure and had bad taste in art. and i think that we can all relate to that.

Adolf Hitler was a psycopath. He massacred 12,000,000 innocent civilians, and caused incalculable damage to Germany's integrity and to Europe. If being a political genius equates to: disregarding your entire populace and doing whatever you feel like because you are an oppressive dictator, then there are a lot of brilliant people.

OCC: Wait, I thought this thread was about some war, not political science or why Hitler was a bad man. So lets try to get back on topic.

Very well then. Considering the outstanding opposition to Plutocratic Maniacs and The Friends of Dubya, I suggest we hold peace talks. It is the most dignified method of forcing surrender we can use.

Yeah, we just need them to agree

The Wirrawayan High Command had had enough, if one nuke hadn't done the job there were alot more left to deliver the message.

Once again the jungles of Mozambique were rocked with smoke and flame as 8 ICBMS slowly left their silo's before blasting into the upper atmosphere. They followed much the same path as they first rocket had, but as they reached terminal velocity something different happened. The nose of the rocket blew apart relasing 6 MIRV's. The small, cone shaped weapons quikcly directed themselves onto their targets, the major cities and millitary bases of the Friends of Dubya. 48 in total, they struck with a hammer blow, literally shaking the earth as mushroom clouds reached into the sky all over the the unfortunate country.

You have defied us, to what end? As you sit in your bunker your country burns, we warned you not to challenge us, but your arrogant pride made you reject out demands. The deaths of millions are upon your head as is your once existant nation. Good day and remember, radiation is fatal.

In recognition of Wirraway's magnanimous attack, we will take care of Plutocratic Maniacs. Note, we are doing this as a LAST RESORT.

*Launch Sequence Activated For Pu-119 Rebepacitopian ICBM*

The Missile exits its haven leaving a beautiful vaport trail. It's five war head payload detaches. Plutocratic Maniacs is ephemerally fulgent from the detonations, the sky and earth quake. All is silent.


Done and done!

As our cities lie broken and disheveled, our stockpiles remain phenomenal and immaculate. We shall rise again like a phoenix from the ashes.

Dictator's Bunker
The Friends of Dubya
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A man walks through the enormous complex. He is an assistant to the nameless dictator of the Friends of Dubya. He approaches a weary, yet resolute dictator. "Mein fuehrer, Wirraway has nuked several of our facilities."
The dictator's eyes gleamed in a conniving fashion. Uproarious laughter grew like a great conflagration. "Might I inquire as to why you are laughing sir?" the assistant uttered. "You see," the dictator began "we evacuated all of our bases three months ago." The assistant too began to laugh. "In other words," the dictator began "they wasted $300,000,000 in nuclear weapons, and destroyed $500,000 worth of barracks!"
"What do you think we should do sir?"
The dictator gazed off at a world map, then responds "Let's send them some christmas presents..."
The dictator picks up a peculiar phone with no discernible features. "Yes, get me the Friends of Dubya Nuclear Weapons Facility..."
"Oh-" the dictator began "and the launch codes for our Peacekeeper ICBM's"
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A lonely prairie in the Southwestern provinces of The Friends of Dubya expels 15 ICBM's. The path of each leads to a tactical target in Wirraway.

Each ICBM is dwarfed by its surroundings, an unbelievable accomplishment considering the ICBM's 71 feet.

A lugubrious array of ICBM's crashes down on Wirraway.

The radar operator looked calmly at his screen as followed the track of the incoming missiles, at this point there was nothing he could do, it was all automated.

The hugely expensive, newly purchased and state-of the art Aristotle II-EX Centralized SDI system kicked into action. Within seconds over 100 Plato II class ABM's were launched at the incoming ICBMS who were still in their vulnerable boost phase. The system, linked to an imaging satelite overhead, 12 targetting sattelites and and numerous radar sites directed the missiles into their targets, with almost a 6-1 advantage the probability of a kill was high.

The AMBS began their final phase locking into the swiftly moving ICMBS. It seemed that these rockets had no MIRVs so one only had to destroy the rocket to destroy the nuke, which was alot easier than the tiny MIRV.

The AMBS slammed into their targets with crushing force, the kinetic and chemical energy ripping through the skies as the rockets exploded in waves. Unfortunatly one managed to make its way through the SDI system and repeated interception attempts.

It impacted a City, wiping it out completely and leaving over 400,000 dead and another 500,000 wounded. The area was quickly cordoned off as teams moved in to seal the area.

The livid Wirrawayan High Command acted swiftly and decisively, over 60 ICMBS rocketed through the familair patch of sky, but this time the object was to utteryly destroy the entire nation. Each MIRV hit a specific area and the combined fallout would make the enitre nation a barren wasteland, unfit for life for millions of years to come. Such was the vengance of the Wirrawyans.


STATS FOR THE SDI SYSTEM, PURCHASED FROM NIKOLAOS THE GREAT'S AMB STOREFRONT

Aristotle II-EX Class Centralised SDI System:

The Ultimate SDI system, it costs a large amount but is one of the most effective SDI system on NS at the moment:

- 500 Plato II Class ABM's with an effective Radius of 1000 Miles.

- 100 Radar Systems all interlinked to a central control system.

- 1 Satellite Thermal Imagining System.

- 12 'Centurion II' (Quicker locking on time) Satellite Navigational Tracking System.

- 1 'Midas' Orbital Weapons Platform. An early design but capable of firing MIRV capable ICBM's down from space, Orbital Weapon Platform operates under the basis of Intelligence, for example, if a Nuclear Attack is expected from a certain nation. The Midas will use its thrusters to gain a sustainable Orbit above that nation and prepare for incoming ICBM's (51% Success Rate in 150 Tests).

- 1 Command and Control Centre - Capable of tracking 500 Targets - Allowing it to track MRV's.

- 20 ABM Missile Silos - With thier own C&C Centres. And capable of withstanding a 50 Kiloton Blast. New Thermal dampening materials allow us to make these as less detectable as possible.

- 50 Civilian Nuclear Bunkers.

- 2 Leadership Bunkers.

- Links all AA Defenses together, providing multiple failsafes.

- Notification system to all ICBM Missile Silos, and Nuclear Capable Submarines if you Nation is hit. Notification system also notifies Fighter and Bomber Planes to scramble as soon as ICBM's or Nuclear Capable Planes are detected in the sky. Notification System also notifies Civilians via warning horns. This is all centralised to the Centralised System itself.

- Backup Integrated Patriot 2E System (89% success rate against Scuds and Conventional SRBM's) if the Aristotle Fails to take the ICBM Down. This again is interlinked to the Centralised Control System

In response to the recently instigated barrage of Wirrawayan ICBM's, drastic measures are taken. The Friends of Dubya SDI System is activated from a discrete location deep in the Cheney Mountains.
In recognition of this activation, two squadrons of B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers are orchestrated. One squadron is entirely defensive, the other will eradicate designated regions in Wirraway.

The assaulting squadron (FODAF Squad 340) consists of 22 B-2's. Select B-2's will be carrying conventional weaponry, nuclear weaponry, and assorted goodies:

-Mk-84's
-CBU-87's
-A plethora of AGM-129's :)
-B83's
-B61-11's
-JDAM Interface
-JSOW Interface
-JASSM Interface
-WCMD Interface
-GWIS Interface
-Raytheon AN/APQ-181 Covert Strike Radar (Ku-band AESA/anti-corruption)


The Defensive anti-ballistic squadron (in addition to satelite and ground based anti ballistic equipment) will be carrying:

(In addition to aforementioned equipment):
-FOD223-C Anti-ballistic Projectiles
-Microwave Disruption Modules
-AGM-MIRV Interceptors
-Airborne Laser counterpart to THAAD Laser System

The Friends of Dubya SDI System responds through its intrinsically advanced radar, by:
-Deploying ground/sea based PAC-3 Patriot units
-Deploying THAAD Laser System
-Deploying Mid/late boost phase hit to kill rockets from Sea/land platforms
-Deploying Mk 5 Rv's
-Deploying anti-ballistic Guided MLRS's

Following suit, The Friends of Dubya has launched the following at Wirraway:

-15 Trident E-6's
-20 Trident D-5's (aka UGM-133's)
-15 SS-N-20's (aka RSM-52/R-39)


We must also express our amazement at your unfathomable rejection of our Peacekeepers. Each Peacekeeper has a 10 MIRV/Mk-21 Rv's payload. Just thought you would be interested in that...you stated the Peacekeepers probably didn't have MIRV's.

Gentlemen this is madness!
We cannot use ICBM/SLBM's (yes I know a thing or two about nuclear weaponry) so gratuitously! Someone could get hurt!(jk)

We request that Wirraway cease in their instigations. The Friends of Dubya is also requested to quell this mindless truculence.

The Rebepacitopian Military (recognizing a global threat to national security) is going to place troops on the border of the Friends of Dubya. There is a small Isle directly north of the friends of Dubya. It has not been territorially claimed by any nation, as such we are going to occupy the Isle.
If hostilities should not reach their conclusion, we will invade The Friends of Dubya. Our force consists of:

-214,000 Rebepacitopian Marines
-300,000 Rebepacitopian Infantry
-ADATS/MEAD/THAAD Missile Defense Systems (No attacking our isle)
-6500 Viking BVS10's
-2000 Paladin 1500mm Self Propelled Howitzer's
-4000 WLS 1B MLRS's
-10,000 M60A3's
-7000 M1A2's

Be warned. We are not in any way reluctant to use our military to it's full extent...which is significant.

The Friends of Dubya:

Rebepacitopian forces have officially placed an embargo upon your nation.

To: Rebepacitopia
From:The Friends of Dubya


We recognize the urgency of this military conflict and hope to make peace with your glorious nation. We do not wish to perpetuate this stupid war with your peaceful people, this is between us and Wirraway. We hope we can reach some amenable conclusion to the tension between our two states.

Dictator
The Friends of Dubya

The Friends of Dubya:

We accept your offer. We too are eager to form a peaceful relationship with your nation. However, we need to maintain a military presence in your region. We are concerned that should your nation attempt to compromise Rebepacitopian security, we will be unable to respond immediately. As such the following conditions must be agreed to for a peace accord between our two nations:

-The Friends of Dubya denounces their initial declaration of war against Rebepacitopia and any other nations belonging to the Greater Socialist Realm.
-The Friends of Dubya will allow Rebepacitopian aerial surveillance vehicles to patrol The Friends of Dubya. These vehicles include (but are not limited to):
U-2's, JSTARS, E-3 AWACS, and A-50's.
-The Friends of Dubya will sign a 50 year non-aggression pact with Rebepacitopia (in addition to the Greater Socialist Realm).
-The Friends of Dubya will recall any/all military personnel currently en route to the Greater Socialist Realm.

Upon accepting the aforestated terms your nation will be in an officially neutral diplomatic position with Rebepacitopia. This peace agreeement will not inhibit or delay your current military conflict with any other nations.

We vehemently hope you will accept the peace terms that have been presented in this brief memo. Peace is always the answer.

X.N. Nitered
Democratically Elected President
Rebepacitopia

Rebepacitopia:

We have analyzed and accepted your peace terms. We are not in a position to negotiate anyway. We have signed the necessary documents and notified all of our military commanders that we are no longer engaged in a state of war with your nation. Your region is also at peace with our nation. We have nullified the initial declaration of war on your country.
*FAXING DOCUMENTS*

Good day to you.

Dictator
The Friends of Dubya

i will be the canadian i am, and be nutral to your cause

We remind Wirraway that we are in a state of war with their country. A complete mobilization has taken place within The Friends of Dubya.

650,000 Marines
1,200,000 Infantry
50,000 Special Operations Troops
60,000 Airborne Troops
4500 G6 1500mm Artillery
7000 Smerch 9K58 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
1500 AH-1W/AH-1Z Super Cobra Attack Helicopters
10,000 T-90S's
3600 LHD WASP Class Amphibious Assault Ships
230 Neustrashimy Class (Type 11540) Frigates
700 SSBN Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines (carrying SS-N-20's)
5000 TU-160 Blackjack Strategic Bombers
2000 MiG-29's

We await your response.

i will be the canadian i am, and be nutral to your cause

Excellent! Would you like to move to The Greater Socialist Realm?

Rebepacitopia:

Following the actions of our ally, The Friends of Dubya, we have decided that peace between our nations would be advisable.
As such, we have decided to create a peace treaty. Upon signing this treaty, aggressions between our people will end.

The terms for peace are as follows:

-Rebepacitopia will supply relief and rebuilding supplies to ameliorate damage done by nuclear assault.
-Declarations of War are null and void.
-Indefinate Non-aggressions pact signed.
-Embassies are to be established in eachothers countries.
-Diplomatic relations between each state will be brought back to those that existed before war.

We hope you agree to our terms.

Plutocratic Maniacs

Plutocratic Maniacs:

In response to your peace terms, we accept. The terms are fair and amiable. We hope that this situation has not permanently damaged relations between our nations.

*Papers Signed, humanitarian aid deployed, etc..*

Farewell.

Rebepacitopia

Congratulations to Plutocratic Maniacs and Rebepacitopia for solving their differences.

Secret IC: Plutocratic Maniacs, we need to move on Wirraway, try to deploy as many troops as possible to aid our assault.