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The Original and Official Axis of Evil
OOC: If you see someone who should or should not be listed, please let me know. No voting for yourself, either! And unless Jarridia or myself decide to put them on, there needs to be alot of support from reputable nations. Thanks!

IC:
The nations of ViZion and Jarridia have compiled a list recognized as Axis of Evil, listing nations that have deserved to be placed on such a list due to, but not limited to, their severe actions towards humanity, such as genocide,or torture of the masses; and/or other sovereign nations, such as direct attacks upon civilians, raping the women and pilaging the towns or knowing aiding and supporting terrorism. This list compiles the worst of the worst, those who commit more than just one or two of the previously listed actions. This list is listing those who are the the most evil, by the most extreme of the meaning, on NS. We will be keeping this up-to-date. If you feel you have wrongly been put on this list, then say why, but do not flame this thread or complain. Keep it IC. If you feel there is someone missing, please post who and why, and we will look into it.

Axis of Evil Nations
Zarbia
Doomingsland
Melkor Unchained
Belem
The Brotherhood of Nod
Parthia
Clandonia Prime
British Londinium

Changes:
Roach-Busters and Sevaris removed. Melkor Unchained added. Fruity Loops added. Menelmacar removed. Kahta, Gullingford, Automagfreek and Belem added. Fruity Loops and Decisive Action removed. VoteEarly added. Borman Empire added. The Brotherhood of Nod added. The Macabees removed. Kahta and EarlyVote removed. Automagfreek removed. Guffingford and Hataria removed. Generic Empire and Borman Empire removed. Parthia and Clandonia Prime added. British Londinium added.

AoE Nations Destroyed:
None

AoE Nations Regime Change:
Automagfreek - Rayne/NAZI Party ousts Dreadfire.
Automagfreek - Dreadfire retakes power.

If you recognize this list…
Please state “I, (leaders name), hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.” then state the name of your nation. By doing so, your nation officially recognizes this list.

I, President John Maybury, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.
ViZion

I didn't think Sev was overly evil as such. He really doesn't compare to the others on that list. And RB's not bad...sometimes...other times he's a git ( :p to you RB).

But what the hell. I, Prime Minister Marcus A. Jones, do retify this document to be a true and accurate reflection of my nation's view.

I, Enigma, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.
The DemonLordEnigma Empire

Incidentally, will this be something useful or just a handy list of people for the more decent members of the human race to gasp and point at? There seems little point in it if it's not going to lead to something.

Incidentally, will this be something useful or just a handy list of people for the more decent members of the human race to gasp and point at? There seems little point in it if it's not going to lead to something.
It could, it couldn't... we'll see... for ViZion, though, it means anyone on the list, we will refuse to allow our people to travel to.

Well, if the Axis of Evil resolution were still around...

"I, President Anthony R. Wittrock and my Administration recognize this list of axis of evil."

I am glad to see that I've been removed.

I'd also like to nominate Kahta to be added to this. He has claimed, in many threads, that my government, which has DONE NOTHING to anger him, needs to be removed. He believes that he can kill any government he wants that supposedly represents a threat to him. I recommend that he be added to the "Axis of Evil" list.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim.

It could, it couldn't... we'll see... for ViZion, though, it means anyone on the list, we will refuse to allow our people to travel to.

Oh, I'll still allow certain members of my nation to travel to those. It's not my fault if those members are heavily armed psycopaths who only wish to see blood.

Where is Unified Sith? The complete destruction of planets using the deathstar doesn't qualify as severe actions towards humanity and/or other sovereign nations.? I am sorry then.

((OOC: Oh yeah, my first (public) international black listing. GE- 1 World- 0))

Official Statement From Red Tide
"What is evil? What is good? There is no such thing as good and evil(from certain standpoints). The world is not black and white, it is grey."

Oh, I'll still allow certain members of my nation to travel to those. It's not my fault if those members are heavily armed psycopaths who only wish to see blood.
lol

Official Statement from the People's Communist Party of Brazil

"While the concept of 'evil' is subjective, we nevertheless agree with most of the sentiment in this list.

The Free People of Communist Brazil recognize that these nations, with the exception of Sevaris, are inhumane and reactionary, and adverse to humanity's development. As such, they will be excluded from FPCB markets and products, the travel between the FPCB and these nations will be prohibited, and any use of currencies from these nations will be punishable by federal law. This legislation has been passed through the Assembly of the Party and approved by our Council of State, O Presidente is signing it as we speak."

Signed
O Vice-Presidente Hugo Santo Antonio
http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Feb2002/Feb17/ap_brazil_Jader_Barbalho_eng_150_16feb02.jpg

I, Jarrod Branam, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil. The nation of Jarridia along with our full backing of the WWA henceforth condemn all action by these nations, and will only go forward into diplomatic discussions with them in the event that they are fully willing to do so. Jarridia, as a soverign nation, also affirms its strong stance against the nations of this list, and if they choose to go beyond there borders and bring upon ourselves, or our allies any sort of harm, we will understand the full implications of that act, and will resort to all means to end their acts of hatred.

Sincerely,

Jarrod Branam
President of Jarridia

ooc: LMAO recognizing yourself as evil ~;p

Axis of Evil Nations
Decisive Action- Nah, they're just strange.
Generic Empire- Never done anything to me
Zarbia- Never done anything to me
The Macabees- Never done anything to me
Hataria- Never done anything to me
Doomingsland- Never done anything to me
Menelmacar- Never done anything to me

I hereby DO NOT recognize these nations as evil. See the reasons above- The Great Leader Li.

I am glad to see that I've been removed.

I'd also like to nominate Kahta to be added to this. He has claimed, in many threads, that my government, which has DONE NOTHING to anger him, needs to be removed. He believes that he can kill any government he wants that supposedly represents a threat to him. I recommend that he be added to the "Axis of Evil" list.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim.

"The FPCB and the PCPB second this nomination, and will implement this in a revision of the sanctions we entailed earlier."

Signed
O Vice-Presidente Hugo Santo Antonio
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“I Sultan Suleiman Al Bashir II of the Ottoman Empire hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.”

yours
Sultan Suleiman Al Bashir II
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I, President John Holtz, do not hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list. Please remove Doomingsland be removed from the list. Yes, it has cruel punishments, but only for the scum of society.

Why was RB removed? :(

Why was RB removed? :(

You were determined to be bad, not evil.

Why was RB removed? :(
Look at the replies...

Why was RB removed? :(
You aren't evil, you're special! lol. But seriously, J.L. is not a guy most people would say are evil.....except for those damn pinko commie hippies from the 60s. Damn them!

You aren't evil, you're special! lol. But seriously, J.L. is not a guy most people would say are evil.....except for those damn pinko commie hippies from the 60s. Damn them!

((OOC: Yeah, and they don't count.))

((OOC: Yeah, and they don't count.))
Wait, why are you on the list?

Wait, why are you on the list?

((OOC: I don't know. Probably for this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=383159))

I once had a man skinned alive with a plastic knife, without anesthesia. I made sure it was done as slowly as possible. Prior to the skinning, I had him injected with caffeine to keep him awake, and a special compound to increase his sensitivity to pain a thousand-fold. I cannot begin to comprehend why my nation was ommitted from the list.

-Generalissimo J.L.

I once had a man skinned alive with a plastic knife, without anesthesia. I made sure it was done as slowly as possible. Prior to the skinning, I had him injected with caffeine to keep him awake, and a special compound to increase his sensitivity to pain a thousand-fold. I cannot begin to comprehend why my nation was ommitted from the list.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Well, you may be re-instated if you do that to about half your population, or a bunch of foreigners... though I'd suggest not doing that for your leader's safety... ;)

While Slaytanicca would wish Neo Sephrioth and Cherry Ridge be placed on the list owing to past experience with the nations, we see a more glaring omission in the form of Dark Dimension, a cruel dictatorship which slaughters its citizens for 'sh*ts and giggles'. However, such a list can never be exhaustive, and we commend the nation of Imported ViZion for having the courage to denounce these regimes.

The Federal Republic thirds the nomination to add Kahta to the Axis of Evil listing. The reason for this is they work along side with the Mississipian Federation (DA) and support him one hundred percent.

Secretary Darren Temple, State Secretary
State Department, FRC

Chellis demands that Menelmacar be removed from this list, not deserving the addition to the list whatsoever.

I, Emperor Robinson Antares Scorpius, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.
The Empire of Risban.

To The Author of the Axis of Evil
From Ambassador Midian of Neo Cannen

We would request that you include "Nikoles the Great" in that list as his nation is dangerously imperilistc with desgins to opress the Turks and Cypriotes.

I, Secretary Kelli Perim, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list on behalf of the Federated Union of Democratic Colonies and the Colonial Government.

- Secretary Kelli Perim, Colonial Department of Foreign Affairs
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OOC: Add Kahta! Add Kahta!

I, President Jarrod Branam, hereby 5th the motion to add Kahta to the AoE List. I also would like to have the nation of Lord-General Drache added to the list, because that government has threatened and gone through with, the torture of their own citizens, as well as numerous bordering Jarridians.

IC:

The Shadows would question Zarbia's presence on it.

We would like to nominate ourselves to be on this list in order to keep our close friends in Zarbia and Doomingsland happy. We have done numerous acts that most weak willed and misguided nations/races consider evil and have many billions of enslaved persons. (OOC: See Molelands and my research thread for more details)

Regards,

The Shadows,

OOC: I am surpised me, Belem, Huzen Hagen or HP haven't been added due to A) being RWC B) general attitudes of our nations. Sorry to go on OOC, just thought i couldn't say it very well IC.

What a farce. There are tons of nations who have done things much worse. What do you say about Automagfreek? Oh wait, AMF is your ally and you can't criticize allies. Still, it amazes me only 4 of the RWC have been added. Where's Belem? Using nuclear weapons any day of week is normal? And Hataria is on the list? What do you mean, has godmodding turned so evil it needs to be on the list.

My Axis of Evil list (random order):

Automagfreek
Name speaks for itself.
Melkor Unchained
Ditto.
Belem
Biggest plate glass manufacturer on earth
The Macabees
Imperialism, warmonger, provoking war
Guffingford
Imperialist, nazi, genocide
Fruity Loops
Nazi, genocide
Decisive Action
Everything racist
Guerrillistan
Terrorist
The HLF
Terrorist
Iesus Christi
Perhaps the most insane of all.

Maybe I missed a few, couldn't be arsed looking it up.

What a farce. There are tons of nations who have done things much worse. What do you say about Automagfreek? Oh wait, AMF is your ally and you can't criticize allies. Still, it amazes me only 4 of the RWC have been added. Where's Belem? Using nuclear weapons any day of week is normal? And Hataria is on the list? What do you mean, has godmodding turned so evil it needs to be on the list.

My Axis of Evil list (random order):

Automagfreek
Name speaks for itself.
Melkor Unchained
Ditto.
Belem
Biggest plate glass manufacturer on earth
The Macabees
Imperialism, warmonger, provoking war
Guffingford
Imperialist, nazi, genocide
Fruity Loops
Nazi, genocide
Decisive Action
Everything racist
Guerrillistan
Terrorist
The HLF
Terrorist
Iesus Christi
Perhaps the most insane of all.

Maybe I missed a few, couldn't be arsed looking it up.

Yep.

And tag.

I, Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Hogsweatian Soviet Union, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

OOC:Awww, I'm so touched! I'm actualy recognized for my evil.

Official Imperial Response

Awww, we're so touched! We've finnaly been recognized for our great deeds.

-tagged, but not recognized atm :P-

OOC:$5 to whoever can dig up the most evil, genocidal stuff about me the fastest!

IC:

Official Imperial Response

We demand to see evidence of any "evil" actions commited by Doomingsland.

OOC:$5 to whoever can dig up the most evil, genocidal stuff about me the fastest!

IC:

Official Imperial Response

We demand to see evidence of any "evil" actions commited by Doomingsland.

OOC: Oh, that's easy. Remember your execution of Captain Swoverland? (Even though, technically that was done by Skar, not the Doomingslandian government...)

I believe that my nation should be on that list. Just to qualify I will have to kill some more people.

In Shoobooshaba

Shooban slaves mulled about doing the regular work they had to do under the whip of Borman. But a little further down a military base had gotten a transmission from the emperor.
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“Wait. So we can really do this without consequence?”

“Yup.”

“Hell yeah.”
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As slaves did their chores the men with whips began to back away. The slaves looked up suspiciously to find themselves surrounded by jeeps full of armed soldiers. Immediately guns opened as the slaves were all mowed down.

“Let loose.”

Canisters of APG2 (A biological grenade I invented) were shot into the air and landed in the town as frightened Shoobans ran around screaming not knowing what to do. Bodies began to fall as soldiers poured in form all the exits and began to massacre the civilians.

One group of men ran into a house to find 4 elderly people. Two of them they skinned alive and made the other two watch. Then the next one they got off fingers and burned them closed. Then made the man eat the fingers before hanging him. The last one they pushed off the roof, then dragged up the stairs, then pushed off the roof, and then repeated.

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This along with my genocide, imperialism, and the like are great reasons you should put me on the list. And if I’m not third Ill commit more genocide.

Blatent Human Rights abuses in the Borman Empire have been witnessed by IH snooper satellites.

A Strike is being prepared.

OOC: Bored atm.

We would like to know why we were added to the Axis of Evil (snicker) list.

Blatent Human Rights abuses in the Borman Empire have been witnessed by IH snooper satellites.

A Strike is being prepared.

OOC: Bored atm.


Things are pretty drab in make believe land today.. what are you going to strike with.... a reply!!! wooooo. dont hold back the power

I, President Brendon Statton, hereby recognize this list.
Signed,
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/marcello.jpg

ooc: Yah I made the list! Of course i made it on the rewrite....have to try harder next year.

Add me to the list! I killed communists, gays, and socialists for fun once!

Add me to the list! I killed communists, gays, and socialists for fun once!
"...once!" being the key word... the Axis of Evil is a list of truely evil governments who have built up a reputation of killing and torturing their own people, or other people, for reasons such as being the "wrong color", the "wrong nationality", or belief in the "wrong God", if any God. Those are the types of nations we list here.

"...once!" being the key word... the Axis of Evil is a list of truely evil governments who have built up a reputation of killing and torturing their own people, or other people, for reasons such as being the "wrong color", the "wrong nationality", or belief in the "wrong God", if any God. Those are the types of nations we list here.
I also attacked Kahta for banning the Christian religion. We excute Communists once a month in Holy Paradise. Come on, put me on the list.

Hey ViZion, you should add reasons for their being on the list.

My description should include Nazism, Fascism, installing apartheids, attempts at genocide, mass executions of communists, murder of civilians by secret police, etc.

Being evil is good.

That is basically his definition by watering it down, really.

Automagfreek officially mocks this list.

Though ViZion is 'allied' to us via a non-aggression treaty with the NWO and mutual cooperation through Operation: Brimstone, we find that this list only adds.....tension to our relations with the NWO.

I urge all NWO members to denounce this list.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Euroslavia, after negotiations with ViZion, agrees to this Axis of Evil list, and has agreed to sign it.

I, Michael A. Sarzo, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list by the powers vested in me as President of the Incorporated States of Sarzonia.

The Sovereign Armed Dictatorship of Nutropinia refuses to recognize the list because of some of the entries.

I, Earnest Equanant, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

Also, I would like to add another name to this list, so please TG me.

OOC: No one remembers me, but then again I'm not very evil.

Automagfreek officially mocks this list.

Though ViZion is 'allied' to us via a non-aggression treaty with the NWO and mutual cooperation through Operation: Brimstone, we find that this list only adds.....tension to our relations with the NWO.

I urge all NWO members to denounce this list.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Please note that this is note an NWO list, but rather a list compiled by ViZion and Jarridia's government, with input from other nations. If NWO nations wish to denounce it, they will on their own. If they wish also to accept it as the official list, then they will.

Thank you,

President Maybury

I reconize this axis of evil yet I do not balive Belem should be on it.

Emporer Palpatine.

Official Response from the Star Republic of Anagonia

We cannot reconize this list, only a few of these people have we seen do anything...Automagfreek, nothing noticed...others, some things and all. Decisive Actions, of course, but who the hell can go up against HIM alone?

Anywho...thats our response...

Automagfreek officially mocks this list.

Though ViZion is 'allied' to us via a non-aggression treaty with the NWO and mutual cooperation through Operation: Brimstone, we find that this list only adds.....tension to our relations with the NWO.

I urge all NWO members to denounce this list.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-


I President James Anderson of the USIH officially recognize this list.

Through extensive consulatation with the people of Xenonier through our neurolinks, I know I speak for the Xenonian people when I accept this as a (constantly developing of course) offical Axis of Evil list.

Arkady Gregorovich, President - Speaker of Xenonier.

I, High leader Aimless von strangaild, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

I, Emperor Iffertt of E-Rokk hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

In Busselvania

In the Borman province of Busselvania slaves worked on menial jobs in factories and in the fields as well as serving their masters. The life under the whip was hard but they had learned to deal with it. Recently a massive statue dedicated to the emperor of Borman had been completed at the lives of hundreds of slaves. Surrounding it was an empty trench the slaves were made to dig and now following the last procedure for the construction were bowing before it. It was lined with concrete and then steel and then wood so as to permanently hold anything that was put into it, an effective moat. A single bridge crossed it and this was not to well constructed.

Silently throngs of soldiers had crept out of the village to the town center and encircled the outside of the moat. As the slaves finished bowing they looked up to see their fate. Guns opened up and began to drop the slaves like flies. Snipers in nearby buildings maintained the bridge by killing any slave who neared it. Within several minutes the slaughter was over the and the bodies were in the upper hundreds. Afterwards the family members of all those who were killed were made to push all the blood and bodies into the moat and then jump in and drowned themselves in the blood. Now the bridge was reinforced and a moat of blood and bodies protected access to the statue.

The truely evil nations are those whose actions we cannot see in the forums - those that manipulate the rest of us like puppets on strings.

The truely evil nations are those whose actions we cannot see in the forums - those that manipulate the rest of us like puppets on strings.
Which is exactly like my two suggestions!

OOC: Ever notice the evil nations the good nations, the right-wing non French nations, yeah that is what I thought.

I feel I should be added... cause I'm a real basturd

I feel I should be added... cause I'm a real basturd

Real reason... I rigg all the elections and dictate all the other countries in my region.

Official Response from the Star Republic of Anagonia

...

Decisive Actions, of course, but who the hell can go up against HIM alone?



The Federated Union of Democratic Colonies. In the past, Colonial forces have toppled dictators, assassinated tyrants, protected the weak and liberated the oppressed. Colonial Marines have stormed beaches with names they couldn't even pronounce to free slaves from thier monsterous masters. Colonial paratroopers have jumped into the very mouth of hell itself to secure religous rights for people they have never met. Colonial pilots have braved withering fire that blanketed the entire midnight sky to rescue women who only wished for thier rights. If there are no others who will join us, then we shall do the deed alone.

Those who say that there are no heros in this day and age, those who say that there are no longer any shining knights or champions of justice in our world - those who say such things are merely looking in all the wrong places. There will come a day when Decisive Action will fall, and I intend to lead the charge when the time comes. With or without the help of other nations, we, the Democratic Colonies, will eventually force Decisive Action to pay for thier crimes. It is not a question of if, or even how, but of when.

- Lt. Colonel James Armstrong, Colonial Navy Lancers
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The views expressed by Colonial military personel may or may not represent offical Colonial foreign policy.

- Janus, Central AI of the Colonial Department of Foreign Affairs
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Why arn't I on yet?

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Put Me On!

Put Me On!
Well, seeing as I haven't been on lately more than 2-3 times up until last since Dec, I would need to hear from others before doing so...

Why if GE is on, I am not. I have been with him in every war since one since June. I have been doing what he is doing and he what I have been doing. We even merged into one empire we are so alike, HOW IS THAT NOT ENOUGH!?

I, Emperor Alan Robert Ezriel Crossman II , hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

-The United Imperium of Crossman

I, Prime Minister Gyrobot Krasius the Third and his first lady Mink Shiraishi hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list and will maintain its glory by making any future Prime recognize the oath and the List of the Axis of Evil to recognize who is our enemy.

The Holy Republic of Gyrobot


Also I want to add the Parthians to the Axis of evil, they have enslaved minorities and place serveral of them up on display and even was praised by various countries for its effort.

Heh, look at that i escaped the list! Though Rf purges people and such, we do it for a good purpose and i think vizion understand that :)

Well, none have nominated you, and imo, you're not as "evil" as said nations on the first post... ;)

Well no one exactly sees a big Kruchev style commie as a bad guy. Anyway i don't purge races and torture people for fun, just send people to gulags.

Well no one exactly sees a big Kruchev style commie as a bad guy. Anyway i don't purge races and torture people for fun, just send people to gulags.
Nor do you, at least to my knowledge, support terrorism... basically, you wouldn't be evil enough... :-p

I, Dictator Scharfetter, hereby recognize this list as the Official Axis of Evil list
The Dictatorship of East Lithuania

Supporting terrorism is about the only evil thing I haven't done...or have I?

Hmmm... I officially recognize this as the Axis of Evil list...

I would like to nominate the following nation: The Brotherhood of Nod.

Also, AMF has had a regime change. Rayne has taken power with her Nazi Party and deposed Dreadfire.

I'm leaving.

Crimmond, thank you!

Borman, you've been added.

OOC: Since I restarted my history you really don't know me - so I shouldn't be up there.

OOC: Since I restarted my history you really don't know me - so I shouldn't be up there.
Fair enough. You've been removed... :)

We find this list erractic and close minded
The most evil nation is the one that makes you think they are 'good' while in truth are busying themselves with evil plots.

As such, none on the list are truly the most diabolical nations in the world.

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(Which one is evil? To quote the Gray one, "I'm Evil..." not the fool in the Wrestling mask who thinks he is evil...but really just pathetic)

We find this list erractic and close minded
The most evil nation is the one that makes you think they are 'good' while in truth are busying themselves with evil plots.

As such, none on the list are truly the most diabolical nations in the world.

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:sbemail99.png
(Which one is evil? To quote the Gray one, "I'm Evil..." not the fool in the Wrestling mask who thinks he is evil...but really just pathetic)
ViZion and Jarridia, with input from various other nations, bases this from a moral standpoint. Genocide, aiding and supporting terrorists knowing who will go and attack innocent civilians, or raping the women while invading a country are all forms of 'evil', as denoted on the first post.

Planning is nothing compared to the execution of these actions. I could be planning to take over the whole world and kill anyone who doesn't like me, after torturing them for years. Am I evil and my nation evil? A bit, yes, unless you compare us to those who go through with their plans and actually do that.

President Maybury

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I -Psov- officially recognize this list as the official axis of evil list. There.
I do suggest that the Parthians be added to this list, they have on numerous occassions acted without common decency towards it's own citizens.

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Forgot about this. And... I'd like to nominate myself for this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412654

99.7% of Crimmond's non-human population brutally murdered. Millions upon millions of people. Semi-old thread, but hey, I forgot this thread was here.

I Lucis DeDeus officially recognize this as the Axis of Evil list.

For unspecified reasons, Euroslavia will withdraw its signature from the Axis of Evil list.

I Edward The Phoenix Duke De Harlesburg Lord Of The Confederacy Of Harlesburg officially recognize this as the Axis of Evil list.

Only one other List has been compiled that could ever surpass this list and i feel this is well formulated.

(OOC)Awaits own Doom

Crimmond, we will look into your past.

Latiatis and Harlesburg, we are glad you have accepted this.

And lastly, while we will not end our alliance with you over this, President Maybury wishes to make it clear he is very displeased with your latest move, declaring that you no longer accept this list as valid.

I'd like to be removed. Zarbia isn't evil enough to be included on the Axis of Evil list and we never really were.

I, Sacred Emperor Lucifer and the entire August Imperium, hereby recognize this as the official Axis of Evil list.

OOC: I'm not as bad as some of these, but I'd like to nominate myself for the following reasons:

1. My first forum action was to genocidally put down a rebellion using biological warfare that exterminated them all.
2. The founder of our government cynically created a religion that is mandatory for the population, and which deifies the ruler and gives him divine right, allowing near infinite oppression of the masses.
3. I have built laboratories in other nations to produce biological agents for them.
4. I regularly consort with some of the nations on this list.
5. Standard Imperial policy when waging war is to complete 'cultural genocide' upon victory; killing all religious, political, educational, and military figures upon occupation and replacing them with Imperial puppets.
6. I am just plain evil.

I can't give threads for these because they all took place before some kind of weird glitch happened that cleared out my profile. You'll just have to take my word for it.

Official Statement From Red Tide
"What is evil? What is good? There is no such thing as good and evil(from certain standpoints). The world is not black and white, it is grey."

I agree with Red Tide and demand to be on this list for selling WMDs to anyone who qualifies.

President John R. Stillen of The Republic of Markov recognizes this list of the Axis of Evil.

Leafanistan condemns this list as an attempt to classify nations as "good" or "bad", there are more subtle things.

OOC: I want to be on that goddamn list!

OOC: I want to be on that goddamn list!OOC: Hey! I was here first.

~Official Sharinan Statement from the Sharina Technocracy~

Greetings.

I find myself in quite a difficult situation. Sharina has had good dealings with the nation of Automagfreek, and both Sharina and Automagfreek beling to the NATO Alliance. Automagfreek has never conducted itself in any evil manner or actions towards the Sharinan populace.

On the other hand, Vizion is an valued ally of Sharina, as both of our nations have been neighbors for quite some time. We have engaged in profitable trade, stood united aganist genocide and atrocities, as well as support each other in times of crisis.

Sharina has little to no knowledge of most of the nations on the Axis of Evil. The only nations that Sharina actually has any knowledge or data on is Guffingford, Doomingsland, and Hataria. Automagfreek is well known to Sharina, but mainly because it is one of Sharina's allies, as well as a NATO member.

Thus, Sharina cannot fully recongize this Axis of Evil list until Sharina has more information, knowledge, and data on the other nations in the list. There has not been any kind of interaction between Sharina and either Guffingford or Doomingsland, ever. Those two nations became known to Sharina through allies, international news, and rumors. The only nation, not counting Automagfreek, on the Axis of Evil list that Sharina actually had any kind of direct interaction is Hataria. Sharina engaged in a refugee camp effort several hundred years ago during the Hataria Mammalian War between Hataria-Mammalia and Nazi Weaponized Virus, Communist Mississippi (Mississippian Federation or Decisive Action), and Initerate Tree Dweller. Another Hatarian war erupted shortly thereafter between mainland Hataria and the two nations of Canan and Initerate Tree Dweller. Sharina established an large refugee operation in Hataria during the war for civilians. Afterwards, Sharina continues to interact with displaced Hatarian civilians, in addition to acquiring international news and witnessing the events revolving around the modern Hataria.

It is Sharina's hope that this position that Sharina is forced to adopt will not damage our good relationship with Vizion or its allies. Perhaps in the future, Sharina may recongize this list as it learns about those other nations on it. However, Sharina cannot recongize Automagfreek's status on the Axis of Evil list for Automagfreek is a valued Sharinan ally.

Thank you, and live well.
~President Mina Veristek

ooc: At last, I have a goal to shoot for. :D Unlike those other fools clamoring to get on the list, I will prove myself worthy of the Axis of Evil. Just you wait, mwhahahaaha.

~Official Sharinan Statement from the Sharina Technocracy~

Greetings.

I find myself in quite a difficult situation. Sharina has had good dealings with the nation of Automagfreek, and both Sharina and Automagfreek beling to the NATO Alliance. Automagfreek has never conducted itself in any evil manner or actions towards the Sharinan populace.

On the other hand, Vizion is an valued ally of Sharina, as both of our nations have been neighbors for quite some time. We have engaged in profitable trade, stood united aganist genocide and atrocities, as well as support each other in times of crisis.

Sharina has little to no knowledge of most of the nations on the Axis of Evil. The only nations that Sharina actually has any knowledge or data on is Guffingford, Doomingsland, and Hataria. Automagfreek is well known to Sharina, but mainly because it is one of Sharina's allies, as well as a NATO member.

Thus, Sharina cannot fully recongize this Axis of Evil list until Sharina has more information, knowledge, and data on the other nations in the list. There has not been any kind of interaction between Sharina and either Guffingford or Doomingsland, ever. Those two nations became known to Sharina through allies, international news, and rumors. The only nation, not counting Automagfreek, on the Axis of Evil list that Sharina actually had any kind of direct interaction is Hataria. Sharina engaged in a refugee camp effort several hundred years ago during the Hataria Mammalian War between Hataria-Mammalia and Nazi Weaponized Virus, Communist Mississippi (Mississippian Federation or Decisive Action), and Initerate Tree Dweller. Another Hatarian war erupted shortly thereafter between mainland Hataria and the two nations of Canan and Initerate Tree Dweller. Sharina established an large refugee operation in Hataria during the war for civilians. Afterwards, Sharina continues to interact with displaced Hatarian civilians, in addition to acquiring international news and witnessing the events revolving around the modern Hataria.

It is Sharina's hope that this position that Sharina is forced to adopt will not damage our good relationship with Vizion or its allies. Perhaps in the future, Sharina may recongize this list as it learns about those other nations on it. However, Sharina cannot recongize Automagfreek's status on the Axis of Evil list for Automagfreek is a valued Sharinan ally.

Thank you, and live well.
~President Mina Veristek
A short reply was sent out;

While we are disappointed that you cannot, and will not accept this, we do not find this an issue that would noticably harm our relations between our nations. Do not worry. However, we do suggest you do look into these nations past actions, and you will see where we come from.

Thank you,

President Maybury

OOC: I demand to be on this list for hte following reasons:

1. I just put down an insurrection by brutally massacring the populace on the planet Harvest
2. I'm buying a planet from a known maniac and then I will exterminate the populace of the planet
3. I sold nuclear weapons to several nations without background checks including the Conservative Union
4. I sold chemical and biological weapons to other nations under the guise of "research for defensive purposes"
5. I threatened to vaporize you from space once
6. I started a war that ended in the deaths of more than 25 million people.

Leafanistan, we hear you, and will consider rather to add you or not. No promises, though!

Add me to the axis! After all, my population spends their time on an island comitting human sacrifice and worshipping a giant chaos troll! Plus I love chemical weapons!

Wow, interesting. :eek: Is there an updated Axis of Evil list that anyone has created?

The Atopian Government demands that both Atopiana and Skgorria be added to this list because:

We use nuclear weapons as a weapon of first resort repeatedly
We have proudly killed millions of people (nearing a billion or so)
Specialise in genocide
Are, respectively, Fascist and Nazi nations
Use chemical and biological weapons routinely
Have used orbital strikes on civilians
Have raped, tortured, pillaged and looted... our own people
Have raped, tortured, pillaged and looted other people
We have destroyed inhabited planets
We have destroyed uninhabited planets
We have used surgery to turn people into unwitting spies
We have whole divisions of our armies dedicated to killing civilians
Set up concentration camps wherever we can
We think nothing of gassing children
Use civilians to clear minefields by walking over them
Have bombed civilians
Have ignored military targets in favour of civilian targets
Enslave people
Skgorrian government hates all subhumans
Atopian government hates some subhumans (Bolsheviks, the boss class)

There's probably more, but that'll do for starters!

I'd also like to add that we ration sex, and also have a world full of monsters that eats people that we use as a prison.

Oh, and the Skgorrian National Anthem proudly proclaims:
"We continue our all consuming fight
To cleanse the world of racial blight"

Pffft, n00bs. ;)

An all-time Axis of Evil list, including those departed and inactive amongst us, might look something like this to a nation opposed to these:

Melkor Unchained
Lord Sauron Reborn
Kalessin
Raem
Guffingford
Iesus Christi
Vegana
Chronosia
Unified Sith
Doomingsland
Generic Empire
the Kraven Corporation

And something like this to one favourable to them:

Pantocratoria
Chimaea
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Questers
the Gaian Ascendancy
ViZion
Jarridia
Czardas
[and so on and so forth]

Anti-communists might add Hallad, Hattia, Dr_Twist, Whittier, and so on. Anti-capitalists might add Pacitalia, Allanea, etc. Nations opposed to Gholgoth may add Automagfreek, Crimmond, and Sigma Octavus whereas nations opposed to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation would add Velkya, the Silver Sky, and Soviet Bloc.

Or they might not. Can we really ever have a real definition of "good" or "evil"?

/2¢

Noobs!?

NOOBS!?

Skgorria trains people's armies in the art of ethnic cleansing! Are you saying that's not worthy of Axis of Evil membership?

Pffft, n00bs. ;)

An all-time Axis of Evil list, including those departed and inactive amongst us, might look something like this to a nation opposed to these:

Melkor Unchained
Lord Sauron Reborn
Kalessin
Raem
Guffingford
Iesus Christi
Vegana
Chronosia
Unified Sith
Doomingsland
Generic Empire
the Kraven Corporation

And something like this to one favourable to them:

Pantocratoria
Chimaea
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Questers
The Gaian Ascendancy
ViZion
Jarridia
Czardas
[and so on and so forth]

Anti-communists might add Hallad, Hattia, Dr_Twist, Whittier, and so on. Anti-capitalists might add Pacitalia, Allanea, etc. Nations opposed to Gholgoth may add Automagfreek, Crimmond, and Sigma Octavus whereas nations opposed to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation would add Velkya, the Silver Sky, and Soviet Bloc.

Or they might not. Can we really ever have a real definition of "good" or "evil"?

/2¢

Wow, if I read this right, I'm a favorable nation? Kewl (again if I read right.) Guess all that hard work is paying off. =^^=

Pffft, n00bs. ;)

An all-time Axis of Evil list, including those departed and inactive amongst us, might look something like this to a nation opposed to these:

Melkor Unchained
Lord Sauron Reborn
Kalessin
Raem
Guffingford
Iesus Christi
Vegana
Chronosia
Unified Sith
Doomingsland
Generic Empire
the Kraven Corporation

And something like this to one favourable to them:

Pantocratoria
Chimaea
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Questers
the Gaian Ascendancy
ViZion
Jarridia
Czardas
[and so on and so forth]

Anti-communists might add Hallad, Hattia, Dr_Twist, Whittier, and so on. Anti-capitalists might add Pacitalia, Allanea, etc. Nations opposed to Gholgoth may add Automagfreek, Crimmond, and Sigma Octavus whereas nations opposed to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation would add Velkya, the Silver Sky, and Soviet Bloc.

Or they might not. Can we really ever have a real definition of "good" or "evil"?

/2¢

Forget my name, eh? As soon as I have the time to be more active...I'm coming for you.

Skgorria trains people's armies in the art of ethnic cleansing! Are you saying that's not worthy of Axis of Evil membership?
*Yawn*

I don't think any of it can compare with the total amount of ethnic cleansing these people (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_reich) have done. Or these (http://www.nationstates.net/region=arda).

When you start performing actions of such evil as to earn the fear and respect of the forum forevermore, and more so actions that haven't been done before by a flock of other Nazi and fascist nations -- actions that raise you above the crowd of the everyday evildoer -- you too will make the List.

Wow, if I read this right, I'm a favorable nation? Kewl (again if I read right.) Guess all that hard work is paying off. =^^=
No, you might be considered for Axis of Evil membership by the people who don't like you. That was part of my point.
Forget my name, eh? As soon as I have the time to be more active...I'm coming for you.
Oh noes. I have to find a new counter to that "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" declaration of war picture!!! :eek:

Oh noes. I have to find a new counter to that "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" declaration of war picture!!! :eek:

God, I love that thing.

[OOC: The Union of Southeast Asian Nations is neither good nor evil.]

Oficial Declaration

We the Politburo of the West Panama People's Party and the general Secrettary of the West Panama People's Party, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.

[OOC: The Union of Southeast Asian Nations is neither good nor evil.]

Damn, that means I'll have to put it on the Axis of Insan-- ow! Who threw that? <.<

No, you might be considered for Axis of Evil membership by the people who don't like you. That was part of my point.

Sheesh, talk about cup half empty then if that the case.

Pffft, n00bs. ;)

An all-time Axis of Evil list, including those departed and inactive amongst us, might look something like this to a nation opposed to these:

Melkor Unchained
Lord Sauron Reborn
Kalessin
Raem
Guffingford
Iesus Christi
Vegana
Chronosia
Unified Sith
Doomingsland
Generic Empire
the Kraven Corporation

And something like this to one favourable to them:

Pantocratoria
Chimaea
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Questers
the Gaian Ascendancy
ViZion
Jarridia
Czardas
[and so on and so forth]

Anti-communists might add Hallad, Hattia, Dr_Twist, Whittier, and so on. Anti-capitalists might add Pacitalia, Allanea, etc. Nations opposed to Gholgoth may add Automagfreek, Crimmond, and Sigma Octavus whereas nations opposed to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation would add Velkya, the Silver Sky, and Soviet Bloc.

Or they might not. Can we really ever have a real definition of "good" or "evil"?

/2¢

ZOMG! I was mentioned! :D

I would like for Clandonia Prime be put on the list

Is this lowered stoop of our empire as humans? That we must resort to classify and seek amusement from the worst? While blood and bone and mind and throne may be the list, they are horridly inefficient. Today we praise the devil, and tommorrow we kill the angels, and such in our worship we make a blasphemer of God Himself.

~Thaurausk

OOC: it was brought to my attention this thread has been revived... please note that this "add me to your list!" stuff won't get you on, you're added if you're widely known for horrendous acts against humanity and other nations. The nations added have been added due to their history and current actions.

If others want you to be added, THEN you're added. That's how this works. Well, that, or myself and Jarridia both agree someone needs to be added. But due to the fact neither of us are active in the RPing department much these days, we'll be relying on what the majority of the people out here say and then we'll look to verify.

By the way, no, I'm not jumping on anyhere here, just stating how the Official Axis of Evil list works. If you're listed, you've earned it.

Now, who wants Clandonia Prime and this... Skgorria added to this list? (those mentioned don't get to vote for themselves! lol)

Oh, ya, glad there's alotta interest! lol

I second the nomination for Clandonia Prime to be put on the list. I have had to deal with them on numerous occasions, and they have a policy of running their country into the ground in a war of genocide against non-aggressors.

I cannot recognize the entire list at this time, as I have no personal knowledge of most of the nations present.

Eurasia hereby recognises this list as the official Axis of Evil. I agree that Clandonia should be placed on the list.

Furthermore, Eurasia ought to be placed on this list as well. Some reasons:


Turning election booths into gas chambers.
Execution of children for the crime of possessing a teddy bear.
Widespread usage of giant blenders as execution methods.
Torture of innocent civilians due to fashion errors.
Forcibly implanting bombs in the stomachs of children, then using them as suicide bombers.
Using political prisoners as artillery shells.
Making pregnancy, using math a crime for one week, with the penalty being death by blender.
Torturing and raping inanimate objects.
Making being raped/eaten by Oprah a penalty for moving violations.
Turning retirees into eggrolls.
Genocides.

If a couple more nations agree that Clandonia Prime should be put up on this list, I'll put him up.

Also, please update me on the current list, if they're still around or not, if they're changed for the better, what?

Are we gonna be finishing that RP ever, Vizion, or did you just pop back in temporarily?

Are we gonna be finishing that RP ever, Vizion, or did you just pop back in temporarily?
OOC: We can try finishing the RP, but just a warning, it'll be going really slow, unfortunately w/ work right now, I'm not having a whole lotta time to commit. If you want, we can start it up again, but like I said, it'll be going slowly right now. Not sure when I'm gonna have more time to play.

I'm not worried about pace at all, myself, I'm involved in a few more RPs as it is, so we can go at your pace. From what I recall, it was your turn to post..

OOC: Very well, tomorrow I'll make my post.

((OOC: Interesting idea. Could you possibly add a few of the evils committed by the nations on the list to the original post?))

{OOC: What about Zaire? :(}

((OOC: Interesting idea. Could you possibly add a few of the evils committed by the nations on the list to the original post?))

OOC: Come again? Sorry, I'm tired. lol

{OOC: What about Zaire? :(}

OOC: Like I said, people need to tell me...

QUOTE=imported_ViZion;12231107]OOC: Come again? Sorry, I'm tired. lol[/QUOTE]

OOC: That's fine. I'm sleepy myself and might not be making sense. I don't know any of the countries in the original post, or their history. Therefore, I don't know what they've done to earned them a place of "honor" on the list. I was just wondering if you could add some of their accomplishments to the original post.

QUOTE=imported_ViZion;12231107]OOC: Come again? Sorry, I'm tired. lol

OOC: That's fine. I'm sleepy myself and might not be making sense. I don't know any of the countries in the original post, or their history. Therefore, I don't know what they've done to earned them a place of "honor" on the list. I was just wondering if you could add some of their accomplishments to the original post.[/QUOTE]

OOC: OOOOH, gotchya. Basically they - at least back in their day, I don't know how many of them are still around or remain the way they use to be - are the epitom of evil. They are the kings, the pharoahs, the gods, the satans of evil, of mass murder, of torture and killing. They are the worst of the worst known in history.

OOC: Like I said, people need to tell me...

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Human_Rights_in_Zaire

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Human_Rights_in_Zaire

We aren't simply looking for a nations propaganda upon its self as evil. We need nations to agree. If we get a few highly respected/known nations who say, yes, Zaire needs to be added, then yes, Zaire will be added. Until then, since I dont know enough about it, they wont be added.

We aren't simply looking for a nations propaganda upon its self as evil. We need nations to agree. If we get a few highly respected/known nations who say, yes, Zaire needs to be added, then yes, Zaire will be added. Until then, since I dont know enough about it, they wont be added.

{OOC: Fair enough.}

I second on putting Clandonia Prime on it.

Oh and I suggest Parthia.

I've seen plently of evil acts by them.

Why do countries want to viewed as evil? Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people so they could go "WHEEEEE I'M SO EVIL! LOL1!!!1!", they did it because they genuinely believed it was the right thing to do. Except for people who are suffering from mental illness, humans simply do not do things they know to be wrong for no reason.

Why do countries want to viewed as evil? Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people so they could go "WHEEEEE I'M SO EVIL! LOL1!!!1!", they did it because they genuinely believed it was the right thing to do. Except for people who are suffering from mental illness, humans simply do not do things they know to be wrong for no reason.

Um, countries want to be viewed as evil because this is a game and they're having fun acting out a role. Is in unrealistic? Sure. Then again, having complete and utter control of a nation is unrealistic as well.

Realism should give way to fun in a game, and some people find it very fun to be evil.

Addendum:

On the other hand, I sacrifice my citizenry to the gods on occasion, but you don't hear Kesshite bragging about it. Nations will use any excuse to bomb you back the Stone Age. I recall a week ago, reading a thread in which two nations were going to invade a third because the third nation was about to judge one of their reporters guilty of manslaughter. In order to save one person from what they perceived as an unjust execution, they were ready to slaughter millions. Now that sounds like the evil you were talking about.

Yay I'm viewed as evil, I vote my self onto the evil list. :D

Clandonia really isn't evil at all...

Okay, everybody, let me tell you something. You are not evil. Yes, you read that right. You are not evil. So shut up and stop pretending you are.Now, my (non-constructive) analysis to Czardas' list.


Melkor Unchained
Lord Sauron Reborn
Kalessin

Just put "Arda", willya? :p Anyway, Kal' and LSR don't RP anymore, I don't believe. Melk's on one of his hiati again. I think.

Raem
Guffingford

Is Guffingford really in the league? He's fairly evil, yes, but not a giant of evil. Lots of propaganda, not much else there.

Iesus Christi
Vegana

Once again, just put "The Reich". It simplifies things so much.

Chronosia
Unified Sith

Yes to the first, no to the second. US is Star Wars evil. He's not really as bad as they say - except OOC. Don't tell him I said that, though. ;)

Doomingsland
Generic Empire
the Kraven Corporation

This is list is for good RP'ers, no? TKC is a fairly good RP'er with some interesting ideas. But he doesn't belong on the list. From an IC standpoint, I would agree with the list, but from an OOC standpoint GE and Doomie are very bad, yes, but they tend to RP more motivations than evil. And it sets a bad precedent. Add these guys and BE, MP, etc. will all want in. I know it.


Pantocratoria

And the rest of his "RP group"? Panto is good, yes, but what about TRD, Excalbia, etc?

Chimaea

My memory fails me here. :p

Sarzonia
Praetonia
Questers

No, no, no. They are a nice people, sometimes, but not "Good" nations. Sarzo is a dictator akin to Kazansky, Prae has done bad stuff (*cough* APOC *cough*) and Questers...don't go there.

the Gaian Ascendancy

Good: yes. War-like-at-times: yes.
ViZion
Jarridia
Czardas

No, no, and definitely not. You can find problems here easily.

[and so on and so forth]

Do tell? :)

Anti-communists might add Hallad, Hattia, Dr_Twist, Whittier, and so on. Anti-capitalists might add Pacitalia, Allanea, etc. Nations opposed to Gholgoth may add Automagfreek, Crimmond, and Sigma Octavus whereas nations opposed to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation would add Velkya, the Silver Sky, and Soviet Bloc.

Or they might not. Can we really ever have a real definition of "good" or "evil"?

The inherent problem with an "Axis of ..." list, masterfully stated, and true. Yes, true.

Yes, yes we can. Why? Because THEY SAY SO, and because it's the FIRST AND OFFICIAL Axis of Evil! lol

Okay, everybody, let me tell you something. You are not evil. Yes, you read that right. You are not evil. So shut up and stop pretending you are.Now, my (non-constructive) analysis to Czardas' list.

-snip-

The inherent problem with an "Axis of ..." list, masterfully stated, and true. Yes, true.

You just proved my point: Evil is subjective. There is no such thing as an "objective" Axis of Evil.

/thread

You just proved my point: Evil is subjective. There is no such thing as an "objective" Axis of Evil.

*shrugs* Well, still accomplished something. Anyway, I'll stop hijacking the thread now, okay? ;)

Damn, that means I'll have to put it on the Axis of Insan-- ow! Who threw that? <.<
Silly Czardas. Evil is really about perception! ;)
OOC: it was brought to my attention this thread has been revived... please note that this "add me to your list!" stuff won't get you on, you're added if you're widely known for horrendous acts against humanity and other nations. The nations added have been added due to their history and current actions.

If others want you to be added, THEN you're added. That's how this works. Well, that, or myself and Jarridia both agree someone needs to be added. But due to the fact neither of us are active in the RPing department much these days, we'll be relying on what the majority of the people out here say and then we'll look to verify.

By the way, no, I'm not jumping on anyhere here, just stating how the Official Axis of Evil list works. If you're listed, you've earned it.

Now, who wants Clandonia Prime and this... Skgorria added to this list? (those mentioned don't get to vote for themselves! lol)

Oh, ya, glad there's alotta interest! lol
Clandonia Prime and Skgorria do display potential as so-called "evil nations", but to say it now would be a bit of a stretch.....and remove Hataria. I'm not sure about him being evil.....Eurasia hereby recognises this list as the official Axis of Evil. I agree that Clandonia should be placed on the list.

Furthermore, Eurasia ought to be placed on this list as well. Some reasons:


Turning election booths into gas chambers.
Execution of children for the crime of possessing a teddy bear.
Widespread usage of giant blenders as execution methods.
Torture of innocent civilians due to fashion errors.
Forcibly implanting bombs in the stomachs of children, then using them as suicide bombers.
Using political prisoners as artillery shells.
Making pregnancy, using math a crime for one week, with the penalty being death by blender.
Torturing and raping inanimate objects.
Making being raped/eaten by Oprah a penalty for moving violations.
Turning retirees into eggrolls.
Genocides.

Same with Clandonia Prime and Skgorria. If you want to, you do have the potential to be viewed with infamy worldwide ICly, but to say so now is not quite yet.....
Why do countries want to viewed as evil? Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people so they could go "WHEEEEE I'M SO EVIL! LOL1!!!1!", they did it because they genuinely believed it was the right thing to do. Except for people who are suffering from mental illness, humans simply do not do things they know to be wrong for no reason.
They like the so-called "evil" role-play style, and I agree. Though some who are strong and renown for evil (Lord Damien anyone?) are realistically role-played out.....
Clandonia really isn't evil at all...
Look at what I said so earlier on....he, like Skgorria, shows potential to be perceived as an "evil nation", but to put him on the list now, not quite yet.
Okay, everybody, let me tell you something. You are not evil. Yes, you read that right. You are not evil. So shut up and stop pretending you are.Now, my (non-constructive) analysis to Czardas' list.



Just put "Arda", willya? :p Anyway, Kal' and LSR don't RP anymore, I don't believe. Melk's on one of his hiati again. I think.



Is Guffingford really in the league? He's fairly evil, yes, but not a giant of evil. Lots of propaganda, not much else there.



Once again, just put "The Reich". It simplifies things so much.



Yes to the first, no to the second. US is Star Wars evil. He's not really as bad as they say - except OOC. Don't tell him I said that, though. ;)



This is list is for good RP'ers, no? TKC is a fairly good RP'er with some interesting ideas. But he doesn't belong on the list. From an IC standpoint, I would agree with the list, but from an OOC standpoint GE and Doomie are very bad, yes, but they tend to RP more motivations than evil. And it sets a bad precedent. Add these guys and BE, MP, etc. will all want in. I know it.




And the rest of his "RP group"? Panto is good, yes, but what about TRD, Excalbia, etc?



My memory fails me here. :p



No, no, no. They are a nice people, sometimes, but not "Good" nations. Sarzo is a dictator akin to Kazansky, Prae has done bad stuff (*cough* APOC *cough*) and Questers...don't go there.



Good: yes. War-like-at-times: yes.


No, no, and definitely not. You can find problems here easily.



Do tell? :)



The inherent problem with an "Axis of ..." list, masterfully stated, and true. Yes, true.
Agreed with all of the above. Praetonia is arguably corrupt given the fact that it can go ultra-pragmatist, and Questers is under the reign of an absolute monarchy that really pulls the strings. Now about Sarzonia.....absolutely, his leader ICly arguably is a constitutional dictator-for-life, but he is a dictator with style! :cool: Doomingsland and Generia are great fanatic militant theocracy role-players, and arguably can be considered as "evil nations" for a very large degree. As for Kraven.....he's corporatist, but good one at that, the only true flaw he has is grammar. Guffingford was a great economist and an absolutely brilliant role-player who depicted a South Africa NSified, dunno about Pantocrat beyond the fact that he is a really well done version of France incorporated into NationStates international politics. The FT players of Chronosia and Unified Sith.....dunno much about their OOC attitudes, but they're good writers, and I need to look up their posts on being "evil nations".

There, that's my comment.

Why do countries want to viewed as evil? Hitler and Stalin didn't kill people so they could go "WHEEEEE I'M SO EVIL! LOL1!!!1!", they did it because they genuinely believed it was the right thing to do. Except for people who are suffering from mental illness, humans simply do not do things they know to be wrong for no reason.

I OOCly want Zaire to be viewed as evil. ICly, obviously, my country's government doesn't view itself as evil.

Bump

Guffingford was deleted, and Zarbia is like a left-wing socialist paradise.

The Peoples freedom should be on that.

OOC: Been a while since I've worked on this! Just removed Hataria and Guff. I'd like some verification on if I should add:
Clandonia Prime
Skgorria
British Londinium

North Calav., I don't know enough about The PeoplesFreedom to add him. If others come on that can verify that he's widely known as among the worse/most evil nations, then yes, he'll be added.

I halfway support adding Clandonia Prime but that's mostly due to past actions.

However being a heavy ally of a current AOE they could still count.

I still suggest Parthia.

I halfway support adding Clandonia Prime but that's mostly due to past actions.

However being a heavy ally of a current AOE they could still count.

I still suggest Parthia.
Parthia, Clandonia Prime. People agree?

Parthia, Clandonia Prime. People agree?
Agreed on both; the first is a major slaver and genocidal power equal to Doomingsland in brutality, and Clandonia is jackbooted-enough a Doomani ally that they count as complicit in Doomingsland's crimes IMO (ICly speaking). Plus they attacked my close ally Vetaka merely for being my ally; how evil is that, eh?:p

Neither is evil, nay.

Also, neither have done any evil actions within the past what, month [clandonia]/months[parthians]

TLA/Wagdog are probably more evil.

I would support putting me on the Axis of Evil.

I would support putting me on the Axis of Evil.
Quite seconded.:p The conduct of the wars against the Hegemony (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530310) and (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530442) Cazelia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531919), and the reintrouction of methods (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12873160) last seen in the days of Titus Andronicus as means of execution, are (mis)deeds worthy of an Axis of Evil member.

I, Emperor Julius Heide, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.
Pro Patria Puritania

If British Londinium are on this, and TPF, then I support adding myself on this list. After all, those guys aren't running amok carrying out a genocide amongst other Muslims (Groznyj can testify to that.)

woot, i'm not on there

OOC: As a free, democratic, capitalist nation and a member of the Sovereign League I still have no idea why I am on, oh well...

If British Londinium are on this, and TPF, then I support adding myself on this list. After all, those guys aren't running amok carrying out a genocide amongst other Muslims (Groznyj can testify to that.)

Yeah, or wiping Atopiana out...

British Londinium has been added.

I would like to know what peoples thoughts are on Clandonia Prime. I have not followed him enough.

I would like to nominate, on the premise of wanton imperialism and proliferation of slavery, the Leafastani Red Mafia, known also as the Republic of the Red Islands (or whatever they're calling themselves now), as well as the generic and expected Kraven Corporation, for reasons I am sure you can guess without help. He's back, and if that alone doesn't get him up, he's just started off destroying a few more nations. Everyone knows what happens then, I really don't have to explain.

I too would enjoy a position on the list, noted as an 'evil regime', because, if anyone can seriously consider "The PeoplesFreedom" to be worse than myself, I have failed.

The "First to Fall to the Jackboot" thread, involving the invasion of Groznyj/The Republic of Chechnya, is a suitable example of the Red Mafia, the Kraven Corporation, and me! I also participated in the dismantling of Chitzeland, alongside the Parthians, should you enjoy further reading.

I would support putting me on the Axis of Evil as well.

I would like to know what peoples thoughts are on Clandonia Prime. I have not followed him enough.

He's not that evil honestly. Also you should put me on the list cause I'm a Havenic nation thats not above "strategic population reductions" with a touch of xenophobia added for kicks.
That and it would be nifty if people feared me. >.>

I would support putting me on the Axis of Evil as well.

Psh. Have you blended a woman and forcefed her liquidated remains down the throats of her parents? Have you chopped up elderly people and used them to make eggrolls? Have you turned election booths into gas chambers? Have you, in the history of your nation, shot children with shotguns for buying teddy bears? If not, then you aren't quite evil yet.

Note: BL, in its year of RP, has done all of the above.

Note: BL, in its year of RP, has done all of the above.

And that's why I've got you on tap in the event that we need to take care of some business...our men could learn a thing or two from you guys.

Psh. Have you blended a woman and forcefed her liquidated remains down the throats of her parents? Have you chopped up elderly people and used them to make eggrolls? Have you turned election booths into gas chambers? Have you, in the history of your nation, shot children with shotguns for buying teddy bears? If not, then you aren't quite evil yet.

Note: BL, in its year of RP, has done all of the above.

but ya won't do that anymore if your in UFAN.

- The Brotherhood of Nod and Belem are inactive.
- Melkor Unchained has been destroyed in corporeal form; Arda has been taken over by Angsiyan Konrad Althalon, who so far isn't looking that bad. I suggest removing the Five Kingdoms from the list.
- Clandonia Prime is not nearly evil enough to be on the list, in our opinion. At best it is mildly menacing.

Evil is also subjective. We here in Steel and Fire, for instance, view communists and militant environmentalists as 'evil'; to others our own government may be a shining example. Therefore, we do not recognise this as an official Axis of Evil list.

British Londinium isn't evil. That Jaredcohenia guy just killed 750 million people though. Meanie. :(

but ya won't do that anymore if your in UFAN.

Hey, hey. Just because I can't do it anymore in public doesn't mean I can't have pride in my former evil.

Psh. Have you blended a woman and forcefed her liquidated remains down the throats of her parents?

Where does one even get a giant blender? I've read that post, it sounded like something you wouldn't find in the average appliance aisle.

Everything else you mentioned can be accomplished with your basic evil toolbox components, gas, shotguns, egg rolls, and axes (for chopping the people). I think chopping a person up in anything, and feeding it to a loved one should count, the blender may be out of some practitioners price range.

Psh. Have you blended a woman and forcefed her liquidated remains down the throats of her parents? Have you chopped up elderly people and used them to make eggrolls? Have you turned election booths into gas chambers? Have you, in the history of your nation, shot children with shotguns for buying teddy bears? If not, then you aren't quite evil yet.

Note: BL, in its year of RP, has done all of the above.

He only joined TEN DAYS ago, but in that time he has taken over several million refugees, gassed half of them, craved up that half's organs, and started selling the organs on the open market.

Of the remaining, he took some and had them used for medical experiments and target pratice, the remainder he sold into prostution.

PS: He took these refugees pledging that he was on a mission of mercy.

PSS: Then he gets Vetalia and S&F to do his dirty work to keep me from laying down an asskicking.
Yeah that's pretty evil.

So evil he's making you look weak...

In ONE MONTH, he has taken over several million refugees, gassed half of them, craved up that half's organs, and started selling the organs on the open market.

Of the remaining, he took some and had them used for medical experiments and target pratice, the remainder he sold into prostution.

PS: He took these refugees pledging that he was on a mission of mercy.

Yeah that's pretty evil.

PSS: Then he gets some powerful allies to keep me from kicking his ass from here to General.

Pfft, that's all vanilla evil, the least-goodest kind!

Why would he sell the organs? That is simply a showy act to gain... infamy? Really, what can one gain from that.

Why didn't he gas all the refugees, if he didn't want them. Or, he could have used them to do something useful, like whip them into a religious fervor, and use them as a body-wall in front of your real soldiers.

Or maybe he could sell the whole, working person into slavery, so as I could buy them to further extend my Janissary Corps, my legion of dogmatized, weaponized slave-zealots.

See? That would have served a purpose.

I would support putting me on the Axis of Evil as well.

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“I, Emperor Foxfire Rose, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.”
Xiscapia

Pfft, that's all vanilla evil, the least-goodest kind!

Why would he sell the organs? That is simply a showy act to gain... infamy? Really, what can one gain from that. Nope he orginally harvested the organs so his people wouldn't have to donate them... Problem is he killed too many people so when I was discussing the release of whoever was alive he offered to sell me the Organs because he had too many. Secretly.

Why didn't he gas all the refugees, if he didn't want them. He only gassed the healthy. The rest weren't useful for spare parts.

Or, he could have used them to do something useful, like whip them into a religious fervor, and use them as a body-wall in front of your real soldiers. They were from FFI...

Or maybe he could sell the whole, working person into slavery, so as I could buy them to further extend my Janissary Corps, my legion of dogmatized, weaponized slave-zealots. Nope, organs for his population, test subjects for his military, and profit as sex slaves... Of course since they ARE from FFI, the remaining might actually like the last option.

The actual boldness of it is what's startling, he has a 20 million pop nation and he joined 10 days ago. Were you doing that openly on your first 10 days? I doubt it.

Or maybe he could sell the whole, working person into slavery, so as I could buy them to further extend my Janissary Corps, my legion of dogmatized, weaponized slave-zealots.

Oh you do that too eh? >.>

[ ITT TLA doesn't get sarcasm and lulz. ]

Well, Tartarystan is a pacifist nation that doesn't believe in war. It's not like we invaded anyone.

And the exact figure is around thirty-six million, which is ironically far higher than the population of Tartarystan itself.

Twelve million died on the way to Tartarystan because they were stacked on top of each other like logs in giant ships. Ironically, the Tartar government refers to them as "logs" or "maruta". They were thrown overboard. About nineteen million were gassed to death on "mercy trucks" via quick suffocation via carbon monoxide poisoning (the government salvaged some really old trucks from the junkyards, rerouted the exhaust pipe to an air-tight chamber in the cargo of the truck). About a third were sent to hospitals to have all of their organs, skin, body parts, and etc. harvested for both domestic and commercial usage. The other two-thirds were sold as fertilizer to domestic companies to generate revenue for the state. A few organs were sold to generate revenue, but most of them were used to provide transplants for Tartar citizens who needed them.

About three million were used for target practice and experimentation by Unit 731. Our Unit 731 isn't that different from the RL Unit 731 (wiki is your friend), so you can read up on that.

About two million children were sold in sexual slavery to illicit foreign criminal organizations to generate revenue.

The best part is, the point of everything done WASN'T genocide. The entire point was to generate revenue, as the government was able to make HUGE amounts of money off it. The slaves generated money, the organs generated money (and saved several Tartars who needed organ transplants. Of course, Tartarystan has universal healthcare, so it was free for them.) The government generated hundreds of billions, maybe even trillions of dollars off of this. Of course, this was used to help maintain the welfare state (Tartarystan is a welfare state that provides VERY extensive social services to all of its citizens), strengthen social welfare, and help fight poverty.

Tartarystan is not ruled by a Communist, Fascist, Totalitarian, Authoritarian, and even right-wing government. The largest party in the National Assembly is the Social Democratic Party of Tartarystan, an unsurprisingly social democratic country.

In a way, it's not evil, it's just wanting to benefit your citizens AT ALL COSTS. Even at the costs of foreign citizens. The fact that they were from the FFI, a nation who the Tartar population despised, made it a lot easier for Tartarystan. The Tartar population viewed the residents of FFI as "animals" (which is ironic since the FFI kinda did as well), and the government did what it did.

Nope he orginally harvested the organs so his people wouldn't have to donate them... Problem is he killed too many people so when I was discussing the release of whoever was alive he offered to sell me the Organs because he had too many. Secretly.

He only gassed the healthy. The rest weren't useful for spare parts.

They were from FFI...

Nope, organs for his population, test subjects for his military, and profit as sex slaves... Of course since they ARE from FFI, the remaining might actually like the last option.

The actual boldness of it is what's startling, he has a 20 million pop nation and he joined 10 days ago. Were you doing that openly on your first 10 days? I doubt it.

Seeing as I have no idea what FFI is...

I have no need for stolen organs, if my soldiers or people fail in any way, they are disposed of. It's cheaper and cleaner.

With the "gassed the healthy" I assume you mean the opposite, as the stated makes little sense.

Other than that, I amend, to a degree, my former decision. There must be a definite objective behind anything that's done, a will, and an outcome. Simple blood-bathery is nothing less than insanity, calculated misdeeds are far worse. Such is my point.

[ ITT TLA doesn't get sarcasm and lulz. ] Actually even if it was sarcasm it was somewhat right, considering he did it for his people, that's kind of a diet-coke evilness right there. And the killing itself was a gassing. After all he could have ground them down into fuel, used them to breed an army of supersoldiers, or used them as human shields as Pudu said. But he gives them a relativaly boring death, no creativity at all.
He is lacking the Sadism that most 'evil' nations have. That and he's too nice to his people.

Seeing as I have no idea what FFI is... A nation full of... Deivants... Disturbing Deivants...

Actually even if it was sarcasm it was somewhat right, considering he did it for his people, that's kind of a diet-coke evilness right there. And the killing itself was a gassing. After all he could have ground them down into fuel, used them to breed an army of supersoldiers, or used them as human shields as Pudu said. But he gives them a relativaly quick death, no creativity at all.
He is lacking the Sadism that most 'evil' nations have. That and he's too nice to his people.

[ True, but I was referring to how you replied to the first comment, mainly, which was sarcasm.

But anyway, moving on.

EDIT: @Pudu: 'With the "gassed the healthy" I assume you mean the opposite, as the stated makes little sense.'

He gassed them, then harvested their organs, since he was basing their quality off of their general health. FFI is 'Free Furry Islands', a nation which Tocrowkia and others invaded, and which pretty much spurred the fursecuters to mobilise and form an official alliance (which in retrospect should have remained anonymous, but wuteyvz). FFI quit just recently. ]

“I, President Alan Foxswift, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.”
Cookesland

Oh you do that too eh? >.>

Just started, actually. Thought it would be cheaper than using my own soldiers to quell the rebellious population outside my governmental compounds.

You see, my nation is sequestered into 4,000 massive, self-contained, compounds, and surrounded by a massive wall. Everything inside that wall, and outside the compounds, is generally beyond Imperial control.

I used to use my own soldiers to thin the ranks of the rebels, but that was not profitable, and now each Compound is equipped with a company of Janissaries, under the direct control of the Foreign Affairs Office, who serve as the trigger-fingers we need to thin out the population.

None ever return from these "Fire Patrols," nor are any expected too.

Recently, Mr. White, the foreign affairs officer, has begun to use the Imperial Janissary Corps (so-called, even though the Emperor has been kept in the dark as to his second-in-command's 'private army') to occupy lesser nations, and draw from them resources to further fuel the Janissary Corps.

[ True, but I was referring to how you replied to the first comment, mainly, which was sarcasm.

But anyway, moving on.

EDIT: @Pudu: 'With the "gassed the healthy" I assume you mean the opposite, as the stated makes little sense.'

He gassed them, then harvested their organs, since he was basing their quality off of their general health. FFI is 'Free Furry Islands', a nation which Tocrowkia and others invaded, and which pretty much spurred the fursecuters to mobilise and form an official alliance (which in retrospect should have remained anonymous, but wuteyvz). FFI quit just recently. ]

I understand the gassings now, as before I was under the impression that the gassed were left in a field or what-not, while the healthy were taken off to be salvaged. Now, I have been informed that to get to the organs, the healthy were gassed, while the rest were just tossed off ships.

If I had a mind to collect organs, for whatever reason, it would make sense to do it thusly.

I agree, Tartarystan isn't pure evil. It's a more subtle kind of evil. The nice fluffy cute evil. Though Carbon Monoxide suffering isn't quick or painless. It can actually fairly long and painful depending on the individual truck.

And they kinda were grounded up into fuel. What's the difference between grounding them up for fuel or fertilizer? Tartarystan uses very little fuel because very few people own personal cars. Public transportation (especially bullet trains) are king in Tartarystan!

You got it wrong. On the way to the shores, 1/3rd of the refugees died because we packed them in like sardines or logs. Oh, and we didn't feed them and we kept them in a dark cargo like that for a week. Unsurprising. That 1/3rd was thrown off.

About 88% (about 19 million) of the surviving refugees were put into Group A, where they were all gassed and sent to various hospitals around the country. They harvested them of blood, skin, organs, and of course, stem cells. The ones that weren't healthy but got gassed anyway were sold as fertilizer to generate revenue. Only 1/3rd were found to be actually healthy enough for harvesting, the rest were just used as fertilizer. The healthy ones were salvaged the organs, the ones that were healthy but weren't unhealthy enough were used as fertilizer.

Tartarystan is also somewhat...discriminatory and prejudiced. They really hate "deviants" and "pagans" over there. Very religiously fanatical, but not always in a bad way. Their religious devotion often leads to charity and an extremely low, almost non-existent poverty rate.

I think it's kinda counteractive to try TOO hard to be evil. I think I like my diet-coke evil.

I agree, Tartarystan isn't pure evil. It's a more subtle kind of evil. The nice fluffy cute evil. Though Carbon Monoxide suffering isn't quick or painless. It can actually fairly long and painful depending on the individual truck.

And they kinda were grounded up into fuel. What's the difference between grounding them up for fuel or fertilizer? Tartarystan uses very little fuel because very few people own personal cars. Public transportation (especially bullet trains) are king in Tartarystan!

You got it wrong. On the way to the shores, 1/3rd of the refugees died because we packed them in like sardines or logs. Oh, and we didn't feed them and we kept them in a dark cargo like that for a week. Unsurprising. That 1/3rd was thrown off.

About 88% (about 19 million) of the surviving refugees were put into Group A, where they were all gassed and sent to various hospitals around the country. They harvested them of blood, skin, organs, and of course, stem cells. The ones that weren't healthy but got gassed anyway were sold as fertilizer to generate revenue. Only 1/3rd were found to be actually healthy enough for harvesting, the rest were just used as fertilizer. The healthy ones were salvaged the organs, the ones that were healthy but weren't unhealthy enough were used as fertilizer.

Tartarystan is also somewhat...discriminatory and prejudiced. They really hate "deviants" and "pagans" over there. Very religiously fanatical, but not always in a bad way. Their religious devotion often leads to charity and an extremely low, almost non-existent poverty rate.

Evil could be used to describe you, especially since you do what you do for a 'greater good', but the problem is, what you're doing, really will create... goodness.

Nobody should try to be evil, but everyone should pursue whatever goals they have in the most straight-forward method as possible. Whatever happens, happens.

anh anoumanys tipster DONT LOOK AT MY MEMBER NAME!!!!!!!!! would like to put forward Verenberg for direct obstructioin of human rights and the tortuing and execution of its own population in the recent revolution.

Verenberg would like to point out there is no evidence to support this slander

I agree, Tartarystan isn't pure evil. It's a more subtle kind of evil. The nice fluffy cute evil. Though Carbon Monoxide suffering isn't quick or painless. It can actually fairly long and painful depending on the individual truck.

And they kinda were grounded up into fuel. What's the difference between grounding them up for fuel or fertilizer? Tartarystan uses very little fuel because very few people own personal cars. Public transportation (especially bullet trains) are king in Tartarystan!

You got it wrong. On the way to the shores, 1/3rd of the refugees died because we packed them in like sardines or logs. Oh, and we didn't feed them and we kept them in a dark cargo like that for a week. Unsurprising. That 1/3rd was thrown off.

About 88% (about 19 million) of the surviving refugees were put into Group A, where they were all gassed and sent to various hospitals around the country. They harvested them of blood, skin, organs, and of course, stem cells. The ones that weren't healthy but got gassed anyway were sold as fertilizer to generate revenue. Only 1/3rd were found to be actually healthy enough for harvesting, the rest were just used as fertilizer. The healthy ones were salvaged the organs, the ones that were healthy but weren't unhealthy enough were used as fertilizer.

Tartarystan is also somewhat...discriminatory and prejudiced. They really hate "deviants" and "pagans" over there. Very religiously fanatical, but not always in a bad way. Their religious devotion often leads to charity and an extremely low, almost non-existent poverty rate.

I think it's kinda counteractive to try TOO hard to be evil. I think I like my diet-coke evil.

((OOC: Sorry, but no. 19 million is way to high of a figure for furries killed by your nation. I killed most of them.))

((OOC: Sorry, but no. 19 million is way to high of a figure for furries killed by your nation. I killed most of them.))

((OOC: Yeah. You did kill most of them. The FFI has a really high population.))

I, President Vladimir Burte hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list. The United Socialist States of Burtilana

Wow, this is old. haha

Yes, the people's communist state of NC isnt on the list " high five for good guys!"

Wow, this is old. haha

I like bringing up the past XD

I would nominate The Ryou Black Islands for the Axis of Evil, but compared to these people, Ryou comes across as more of a Fyodor Karamazov-esque buffoon than a truly evil nation.

I think Greal does a lot of Genocide...

“I, Acting President Muhammad Hanka, hereby recognize this list as the official Axis of Evil list.”

THE REPUBLIC OF THE INDONESIAN STATES

AoE Nations Destroyed:
None

BL was destroyed recently.

BL was destroyed recently.
Heh, I'll update that. This hasn't been updated in a loooooong time. (And check the creation date... 2004 lol)

While we here at VMMolotov do not officially accept this "Axis of Evil", we would like to assure the civilized nations not on this list that we do not condone their actions. However, because this axis of evil list 1) is difficult to define, 2) infringes on national sovereignty, and 3) may lead to undeserved aspersions upon the great motherland where our president, Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov, once served under the Glorious Leader Stalin, we can not recognize this list.

On a more personal note, I, Vyacheslav V. Molotov, would like to support the new freedoms brought by glasnost and perestroika to the motherland, and will continue to uphold the ideas of capitalism and freedom of speech, though the Glorious (once) Leader may have disagreed. We must show that the Motherland is capable of adapting.

ooc- nice, but perhaps you can do more than just call them names?