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The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway is pleased to announce the creation of a contest to find the fastest aircraft in the world.

The purpose of this contest is to see just how far aircraft and their designers can push the limits to hopefully lead the creation of more efficient commerical aircraft designs along with enhancing to combat capabilities of millitary aircraft.

RULES

1. The entry must have a renewable source of fuel suitable for sustained combat or commercial operations, i.e. no rocket propelled aircraft will be allowed to compete.

2. The aircraft must be able to hold at least one person and at least 9,000 lbs of payload.

3. It must be able to takeoff and land under its own power.

The Trial

1. Aircraft will fly 30 km in a straight line 2 times in 24 hours. The average will determine the final time.


The contest will be held at the Wirrawayan Airforce base in Vermdy. Entrants may fly directly to the base. Lodging and other services will be provided free of charge to entrants.

The Prize

The winner will receive 1 billion USD from the Wirrawayan government.

*NOTE* all plans must be submitted to the Wirrawayan government prior to the trial to be approved.

Participants

Phoenixius
Lachenburg

ooc: heh, i'm not going to participate, because this will be just plain unfair. I have plasma powered scramjets using fusion ignition and helium based ignition (yes the temperatures get that high).

ooc: heh, i'm not going to participate, because this will be just plain unfair. I have plasma powered scramjets using fusion ignition and helium based ignition (yes the temperatures get that high).

OOC: heh, ya, this is a little more MT.

OOC: Just wondering if you'll allow pulse detonation wave engines? I gather this is going to be MT, and the PDWE is fro the Aurora black aircraft. ANyway, here is the specs of a passenger jet I have:


PX-302 'Xavio' passenger jet
http://users.cihost.com/ata/aircraft/aurora8.jpg
Designed for the rulers of all nations, this jet can get you too any location in the world within a few hours. Using hypersonic technology, the aircraft can propel you at speeds up to Mach 8.1, with all the luxury you require. If you want to get to a summit on the other side of the planet quickly then this is the plane for you.

Designed by: Phoenixius
Function: hypersonic passenger jet
Crew: 3
Length: 80ft
Height: 15.50 ft
Wingspan: 80ft
Engine: 1x Pulse Wave Detonation Engine with Airspike
Empty Weight: 36,000 lb
Internal Fuel: 24,000 lb
Ceiling: 100,000 ft.
Max Speed: Mach 8.1
Range: 15,240 miles
Armament: None
Combat Systems:
PHBVS G-I
PDCM G-I
CACS G-III
Deity
Triad Armour

Unit Cost: $100mil, N50mil
Production Rights Cost: $10bil, N5bil

Ahh, too bad. Our inter-planetary commercial "air"liners travel at FLT speeds. Thought I had it nicked there for a moment. ;)

OOC: We do have Tu-260's, but I doubt you'll let us join, seeing as we're in a war right now. :)

Phoenixus: After reviewing the specifications of your aircraft we will allow it to compete, you may come to base at your leisure, but please let us know beforehand.

JA: It would be impossible for you to do as a nation, but you could have "private" venture enter a modified aircraft.

Parlim: If you can enter something MT your in.

OOC: heh, ya, this is a little more MT.

plasma powered scamjets my ass , i actually know how that stuff works unless your godmodding, its unfisiable to have more than 5-10 of them im just saying its unlikely (not impossible (ask east coast federation) hes the one who taught me everything i know

its nothing personal i just dont like the FT stuff its just TOOOOOO out there its kinda funny but hey its your country ;)

and all of this for just 1 billion USD not worth it :rolleyes:

plasma powered scamjets my ass , i actually know how that stuff works unless your godmodding, its unfisiable to have more than 5-10 of them im just saying its unlikely (not impossible (ask east coast federation) hes the one who taught me everything i know

its nothing personal i just dont like the FT stuff its just TOOOOOO out there its kinda funny but hey its your country ;)

and all of this for just 1 billion USD not worth it :rolleyes:

Which is why I didn't allow it in, now please, post on topic or don't post at all.

Thank you. As soon as there are other participents, we shall send one aircraft over.

ooc: Dude, i'm not precisely MT (my vision of 30-50 years into the future, besides, I haven't broken the 8,000mph barrier yet as the technology isn't perfected). Fusion is cheap and widespread in my nation. Oh well, i'm looking forward to watching this contest. And who cares what exactly works and what doesn't. This isn't RL.

http://www.freewebs.com/demonlordenigma/Experiment1.JPG

Designed by SAR Industries in competition for the DLEX70, this particular model instead ended up being a bit of a mystery as to what they were thinking. Of course, they lost the contract, but this design still plagues DLE skies from time to time.

Name: "Ra's Chariot" SAR-1887 Hypersonic Screamjet
Designed by: SAR Industries
Function: Hypersonic assault jet
Crew: 4
Length: 105 feet
Height: 20 feet
Wingspan: 104 feet
Engine: 2 supersonic hydrogen-fueled jet engines, 1 hypersonic fission engine
Empty Weight: 45,000 lbs.
Fuel: 24,000 lbs. (jet), 600 lbs. (uranium)
Ceiling: 100,000 feet
Max Safe Speed: Mach 12
Max Speed (est.): Mach 16
Range: 30,000 miles
Armament: None, but armaments can be added into design upon production contract
Combat Systems:
DLE SmartGun Targetting System
SAR Industries Self-Sealing Armor System
Titanium Armor
Synthalead Radiation Prevention System

Price per unit: 500 mil.
Production rights: Negotiable

Okay, a few technology justifications:

Fission engine- To get an idea, the engine at the back of the jet uses uranium fuel rods combined with a specially-designed microreactor to generate a very small-yield nuclear blast, which is pushed sent out the exhaust openings on the back of the engine. The result is, combine with the jet engines, a force that can push the jet up to Mach 16 (current estimate). However, at that speed you're dealing with dangerous heatings of the ship, so Mach 12 has been chosen as the max safe speed. Is this possible under MT? Yes, actually. The nuclear reaction is generated in a method similar to that of a nuclear missile. Speed control is merely how much uranium is used (the uranium is kept in very small pellets when loaded as fuel). The radiation disperses quite quickly, so it is not considered a danger.

Self-sealing Armor System: Ever seen how a self-sealing tire works? Pretty much similar to that. Uses a more heat-resistant material, but at Mach 12 being shot up isn't a good idea anyway.

Synthalead Radiation Prevention System: Developed as a way to protect the crew from the radiation produced by the engines. It combines small amounts of led with titanium. The effectiveness is questionable to many, but it works well enough.

I'd enter the Numen V, but it's just not worth it...I mean, the competition goes well over Mach 10.

I could have entered my ship that reaches Mach 23 in atmosphere, but that one is well above the technology limits of this contest.

((Well, i'm a modern-tech person and i have in the works several aircraft. A Mach 6 bomber and a Mach 50 Mesospheric Transport.))

Thank you for entering, Demonlordenigma, but upon further review, the technology used in aircraft is too high for this contest.

Witzgall you are most welcome to enter.

I want to know how one pulls off Mach 50 without FT.

I want to know how one pulls off Mach 50 without FT.

Ridiculously easy.

It involves plasma and hydrogen.

However, this speed is difficult to sustain. Average speed of aircraft is to be Mach 20-25.

This project has been around for almost 30 years.

Russian "AyakS"

Plasma requires FT, or close to it, to develop and use effectively in engines. If mine is beyond, that certain is.

Plasma requires FT, or close to it, to develop and use effectively in engines. If mine is beyond, that certain is.

Not true.

Plasma tech has been in use since the 80's.

However, it is somewhat FT.

LIke 2010.

Well, to make true plasma, one needs FUSION, to deploy on a mass scale requires easily available and cheap fusion.

OOC:okay, okay, time to stop hijacking my thread now guys ;) if you have an entry, post it.

Not true.

Plasma tech has been in use since the 80's.

However, it is somewhat FT.

LIke 2010.

Nuclear tech has been around since the 60s, and the use of it in engines is mostly not researched due to radiation fears. If we wanted to, we could develop a fighter using the technology I put down right now.

Also, to produce and use plasma in amounts needed for actual use as an engine, we're talking FT or very close to it. Right now, we cannot produce and store plasma without the plasma cooling to just a gas or even further to a liquid or solid. The technology won't exist, at our current rate of advance, until at least the 2060s.

Finally, 2010 isn't FT. That's Post Modern, which can stretch up to the 2070s or only as far as the 2020s (depends on the route of advancement).

Edit: Post typed up before I read the request to stop.

LAC-014 'Turtle'
Actual Aircraft (http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/fighter/xf85-i.jpg)

Function: High-Altitude Strike Aircraft
Crew: 1
Length: 5 meters
Height: 3 meters
Wingspan: 7 meters
Engine: 1 Hydrogen-Slush Engine
Empty Weight: 6,000 lb
Internal Fuel: 14,000 lb
Ceiling: 79,000 ft.
Max Speed: Mach 11.4
Range: 13,050 Kilometers
Armament(s):
(2) 25mm Super-Coil Gauss Cannons
(4) AA Missles
(2) AG Missles
(1) Iron/Guided Bombs

*Landing Gear attached under the wings*

Cost: 85 Million USD

LAC-014 'Turtle'
Actual Aircraft (http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/fighter/xf85-i.jpg)

Function: High-Altitude Strike Aircraft
Crew: 1
Length: 5 meters
Height: 3 meters
Wingspan: 7 meters
Engine: 1 Trintium/Detrimium-Slush Compression Engine
Empty Weight: 6,000 lb
Internal Fuel: 14,000 lb
Ceiling: 79,000 ft.
Max Speed: Mach 11.4
Range: 13,050 Kilometers
Armament(s):
(2) 25mm Super-Coil Gauss Cannons
(4) AA Missles
(2) AG Missles
(1) Iron/Guided Bombs

Cost: 85 Million USD

To compete it must have a landing gear, and also, can you please clarify what a Trintium/Detrimium-Slush Compression Engine is.

Well, Alalaea sure won't participate, we already have better aircraft than all you primitive tribes


Ha ha ha ha !!

Trintium is beyond the tech of this contest.

http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00001260.htm

Alright, I edited it.

Well, Alalaea sure won't participate, we already have better aircraft than all you primitive tribes


Ha ha ha ha !!

OOC: get the hell out.

Alright, I edited it.


The Wirrawayan government, after extensive review, has decided to allow you to compete. Please come to the airfield as soon as possible to begin trials. Lodging, dining and other services will be provided free of charge.

Well, Alalaea sure won't participate, we already have better aircraft than all you primitive tribes


Ha ha ha ha !!

My slowest ship can travel 28 parsecs per jump. 1 parsec = 3.26 light years. They can also enter and fly around in atmosphere and frequently do.

I suggest you be careful who you call primitive.

Wirraway, as there are more entries now, we wish to send our aircraft over as soon as possible.

Thank you for entering, Demonlordenigma, but upon further review, the technology used in aircraft is too high for this contest.

Witzgall you are most welcome to enter.

Would there be a few other contests, such as fastest fighter and such? For each role, I mean?

Would there be a few other contests, such as fastest fighter and such? For each role, I mean?

This is simply an open contest at this point and any aircarft are accepted, howver we may host another more catagorized one in the future.

Phoenixius: We are ready for you as soon as you wish to depart.

Here it goes. I join also.

Lighting Speed Fire (LI-675)
MAXIMUM Speed: Mach 10.7 (tested in Hawaiian NASA with a crew of 3)
MAXIMUM Crew: 5
MAXIMUM Payload: 5 ton (speed will lessen as weight is higher)
Engine: Nitro-Hydrogen Laser
Empty Weight: 6,500 lb.
Internal Fuel: 8,000 lb.
Length: 12 meters
Width : 9 meters
Range: 2,940 Kilometers
Bio: With Light Titanium Steel and Gold Frames for windows, the weight is extended less for faster speed. Nitrogen and Hydrogen Powered Engine, with Laser, enhances a double power speed, using less fual but going faster.

Purpose: Emergency Air Support Backup

Armments
(3) Plasma Tracking Missiles
(2) Heat Tracking Missiles
(1) Mini-Nuclear Missile (with a Gold top)