New Tinsuvilian Rifle Line Announced!
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 17:02
TMAR (Tinsuvilian Military Assualt Rifle)-1 (http://img56.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img56&image=pmar16az.png)
Specs:
Type: Standard Infantry Assault Rifle
Official Designation: SIAR-1
Weight (fully loaded): 8.76 lbs.
Length: 832 mm.
Barrel Length: 347 mm.
Caliber: 5.56 or 7.62 mm.
Clip Capacity: 28 7.72 mm. bullets, 36 5.56 mm. bullets
Rate of Fire: 600 rounds per minute
Firing Styles: Single, Burst, Full-Auto
Price: $1,000
TMAR-1S (Sniper) (http://img56.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img56&image=pmar1s4mo.png)
Specs:
Type: Long Range, Medium Power Sniper Rifle
Official Designation: LRMPSR-1
Weight (fully loaded): 10.96 lbs.
Length: 1,486 mm.
Barrel Length: 1,280 mm.
Caliber: 7.62 or 9 mm.
Clip Capacity: 4 7.62 mm. bullets, 3 9 mm. bullets
Rate of Fire: 100 rounds per minute
Firing Styles: Single
Price: $1,200
TMAR-1M (Mini) (http://img154.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img154&image=pmar1m2wk39ss.png)
Specs:
Type: Short Range, Rapid Fire, Room Clearing Commandoe Light Rifle
Official Designation: SRRFRCCLR-1
Weight (fully loaded): 6.87 lbs.
Length: 581 mm.
Barrel Length: 134 mm.
Caliber: 9 mm. parabellum
Clip Capacity: 36 9 mm.parabellum rounds
Rate of Fire: 750 rounds per minute
Firing Styles: Burst, Full-Auto
Price: $950
OOC: Now for sale!
Shenyang
20-12-2004, 17:14
What's the length of the barrels, 'cause your pics indicate between 12in. and 1in. Which means those guns will be the least accurate weapons on the planet if that is correct.
The Cottonmouth
20-12-2004, 17:22
Thats interesting how the STANAG magazine is fed into the front part of the barrel, and even backwards. Good job other than that, I like the stock addition.
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 17:27
Thank you Cottonmouth, a compliment from you means alot, and Shenyang, the TMAR-1M version has such a short barrel because it is meant to be used for close combat operation and doesn't need to be accurate.
Henrytopia
20-12-2004, 17:42
They appear to be a bullpup design.. nice. Interested in the TMAR1-S sniper, the issue would be how long between firing rounds since it is a semi also time necessary reloading the weapon. Our Death Commandos are always in the market for new equipment.
Shenyang
20-12-2004, 17:53
Thank you Cottonmouth, a compliment from you means alot, and Shenyang, the TMAR-1M version has such a short barrel because it is meant to be used for close combat operation and doesn't need to be accurate.
The sniper rifle has a barrel that appears to be around 1 ft long. The SMG variant wont need a long barrel, but 1in. is gonna make it hard to hit inside a hall in CQB, let alone hit a person.
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 17:55
Henrytopia, the TMAR-1S is a single shot bolt-action rifle. The time it takes to reload depends on the dexterity of the shooter. You have to unlatch the clip, insert a new one, and relatch. Minimum time is about 5 seconds.
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 17:58
The sniper rifle has a barrel that appears to be around 1 ft long. The SMG variant wont need a long barrel, but 1in. is gonna make it hard to hit inside a hall in CQB, let alone hit a person.
It's the American style gun. Shoot lots and hope you hit something.
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 18:18
I am now accepting suggestions for the prices of each of these guns.
Shenyang
20-12-2004, 18:23
It's the American style gun. Shoot lots and hope you hit something.
I really find that insulting just so you know.
I'd sell them for between 1-1.5 thousand each.
The Cottonmouth
20-12-2004, 18:25
1 inch is very small for a bullpup style gun, the MAC-10 SMG was a spray and pray gun, and it at least had a 5 inch barrel.
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 18:26
OOC: I am sorry, I meant no offense, I actually got it from a movie.
IC: The starting price I am think of is $1,000 for the TMAR-1, $1,200 for the TMAR-1S, and $950 for the TMAR-1M.
Henrytopia
20-12-2004, 18:47
Addressing the barrel length issues is of prime concern. Once those issues have been resolved and adequate testing has been done, please allow our Defence Department the courtesy of being the first to place an order for a small number of units so that we may equip some of our training staff with these weapons. Upon further evaluation we would place an order with you.
SSG1 Thomas Buchwald - HDC Supply Corps
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 18:50
The barrel of the TMAR-1 is 180 cm. long. The TMAR-1S has a barrel of 376 cm., and the TMAR-1M has a 3 cm. barrel.
Henrytopia
20-12-2004, 19:28
OOC: Do we have any other suggestions we could offer to enhance these weapons or get them to spec or is this on the right track?
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 19:33
The guns are now for sale here and will soon also be sold at the Cottonmouth storefront.
Henrytopia
20-12-2004, 20:14
Secret IC:
As the Operations Officer of the Death Commandos for The Protectorate of Henrytopia, I would like to place an order of weapons from your nation. An initial order of twenty units of each weapon in the new Tinsuvilian Rifle Line would be sufficient to equip one of our commando units. Upon a successful trial period, we would then like to complete a larger order to add to the weapons selection that our commandos have available to them.
Cordially,
Lieutenant Steven Wright - 1st Lieutenant
Operations Officer
Henrytopian Death Commandos
Tinsuvilia
20-12-2004, 20:30
Henrytopia,
The total of that order is $66,000. The order will be shipped when money is wired. Thank you.
Henrytopia
20-12-2004, 20:43
If you would be so kind as to forward my Provisioning Department your standardized order form so that we can place our order with you. The price of $66,000 should be in what currency? We use the dollar for transactions but will gladly handle any currency that is agreeable to your nation.
Thank You,
SSG1 Thomas Buchwald - HDC Supply Corps
Nutropinia
20-12-2004, 20:59
OOC: 3 cm is still around One Inch. That is way to short. The recoil would be hardly manageable. And you would be lucky to hit a target across the room. That is like firing a derringer with a much bigger round and high rate of fire.
Tinsuvilia
21-12-2004, 02:23
If you would be so kind as to forward my Provisioning Department your standardized order form so that we can place our order with you. The price of $66,000 should be in what currency? We use the dollar for transactions but will gladly handle any currency that is agreeable to your nation.
Thank You,
SSG1 Thomas Buchwald - HDC Supply Corps
OOC: Sorry, my mistake, the price is $63,000 not $66,000.
IC: The forms have been forwarded to you and should appear below:
Ordering Nations Name: Henrytopia
Items Purchased: 20 x TMAR-1, 20 x TMAR-1S, 20 x TMAR-1M
Total Price: $63,000
Salesmen Signature:John Topington
Purchaser Signature:_____________
New Empire
21-12-2004, 02:36
The magazines are way too far up the rifle. Your stock is set up for bullpup design, yet your STANAG mags are loaded so far up they might as well be pistols.
Tinsuvilia
21-12-2004, 02:43
As of now, the TMAR-1M is under scrutinization by the Tinsuvilian Armories Design Team with the help of Nutropinia. Both other guns have proven practical in combat, but the 1M's nearly non-existent barrel has raised some crucial questions about it's accuracy and abilities. Until further notice it is not for sale here, but if you have some mysterious urge to buy them, they can still be purchase from the Cottonmouth Infantry Storefront.
OOC: New Empire, the magazine is capable of being located near the front of the rifle due to the fact that the guns feature a special loading system which pulls the round back after the round enters the chamber.
New Empire
21-12-2004, 02:49
OOC: Seems kind of jamming prone to me. My suggestion would be moving the magazine closer to the trigger and then chopping off some of the stock behind the gun. That way you get lighter weight, longer barrel, and a faster firing weapon.
Tinsuvilia
21-12-2004, 03:31
After a redesign with the help of Nutropinian engineers, the TMAR-1M has been re-released with new specs and picture, and a length refit has been carried out with both of the M's brother guns to make them more realistic.
Tinsuvilia
21-12-2004, 16:47
Bump.
Henrytopia
21-12-2004, 19:30
OOC: What, I swear the coupon I had said...
OOC: Sorry, my mistake, the price is $63,000 not $66,000.
IC: The forms have been filled out and we await your reply.
Ordering Nations Name: Henrytopia
Items Purchased: 20 x TMAR-1, 20 x TMAR-1S, 20 x TMAR-1M
Total Price: $63,000
Salesmen Signature:John Topington
Purchaser Signature:Lt. Steven Wright, OP Officer
Please notify us of estimated time to complete delivery.
Regards,
S.W.
Tinsuvilia
21-12-2004, 20:18
OOC: WHAT? THEY HAVEN'T ARRIVED YET? DECLARE WAR ON POST OFFICE AND FEDEX! DIE FOOLS!
IC: About 1 NS day. Thanks for your business.
Henrytopia
21-12-2004, 20:25
We look forward to their arrival. Please allow us a short period of time for evaluation before we contact you for a second order.
Regards,
S.W.
Please redirect any orders to here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7762291#post7762291) from now on. (Not up quite yet, soo though.)
Henrytopia
22-12-2004, 16:07
All arrived in good order, once the shipment has been catalogued and distributed by the ordnance officer, they will be assigned to a squad to be evaluated and tested. Once we have adequately tested, we will contact your agent and negotiate terms for another order.
Regards,
S.W.
OOC: PS thanks for the neat t-shirts with the Tinsuvilian Rifle Works logo.. can I get two or three more XL’s? hehe
Anarchy 92
22-12-2004, 16:53
I'd say $750 each. The Price that is
Tinsuvilia
22-12-2004, 16:57
Why is that Anarchy? I have to make a profit off these and the price to make even the -1M is near to $800.