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HOGSWEATIAN REVOLUTIONARY ARMY


Here is everything and anything you need to know about the Hogsweatian Army! Ask a question, i'll answer it, and it will be posted on the first post here.

INFANTRY

Uniforms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/UNIFORMS.png
(Thanks a helluva lot to Pergast for this)

From left to right - Hogsweatian Trained Infantry, Hogsweatian Conscript, Hogsweatian Tankist.

Hogsweatian Trained Infantry use the D055/88 Assault Rifle as their basic rifle. Conscripts use the D055/12 Bolt Action Rifle as their basic rifle. The D055/43 and D055/44 are usually given to Mechanised infantry and Airborne troops as their submachine gun. Mechanised and Airborne infantry use the D055/88 assault rifle as their basic rifle.

Hogsweatian Military Actions [Updated when needed]
The New Aryan State [removal of regime]- Successful
The Burnsian Desert [removal of regime] - Successful
The Burnsian Desert [defense of territory] - Pulled out
Doomingsland [Supporting Socialist revolution] - Unsuccessful. Captured soldiers returned, however.
Sovieten [Supporting current regime against Doomingsland] - Unsuccessful.

Light Hogsweatian Support Weapons


ARMY ORGANISATION

FIRETEAM: 8 men (cpl)

PLATOON: Headquarters and three fireteams (Lt): 40 men

COMPANY: Headquarters and three platoons (mjr): 140 men (hq 20 men) In Total: 140 men

BATTALION: three rifle companies, support company*, headquarters company; (lt
colonel) (headquarters 25 men) In Total: 500 men

STANDARD BRIGADE: Three infantry battalions, one static artillery regiment**, one mechanised regiment***, one infantry battalion, two armoured regiments****, one MRLS artillery regiment*****, one engineer regiment ****** in total:
2120 infantry,
70 mobile AAA,
325 MBTs, OR 500 Airborne Infantry (Battalion)
50 IFVs,
66 MRLS Artillery,
120 Static Artillery Guns,
194 trucks
50 AVRE Vehicles
Command Section: 80 men, (2200 men in total) Colonel

AND

INFANTRY BRIGADE: ten rifle battalions, two mechanised regiments
total: 5000 men,
(5640 plus mechanised troops and HQ section- Colonel) ,
100 IFVs,
50 MBTs, OR 500 Airborne Infantry (Battalion)
50 mobile AA,
44 trucks

AND

ARMOURED BRIGADE
Four mechanised regiments, four Armoured regiments totalling:
1120 Men
720 MBTs, OR 1000 Airborne Infantry (2x Battalions)
160 mobile AAA
88 Trucks
200 IFVs

AND

ARTILLERY BRIGADE
Two Static Artillery regiments, Two MRLS regiments, Two Engineer Regiments totalling:
men including gun crew = 600 engineer 600 crew
100 AVRE Vehicles
60 mobile AAA
420 Guns
322 Trucks
132 MRLS


DIVISION:
One Infantry Brigade, one armoured brigade, one artillery brigade, Three standard brigades, totalled to;
14,320 men (including gun crew)
450 IFVs,
1745 MBTs, OR 2500 Airborne Infantry
480 mobile AAA,
648 trucks
250 AVRE Vehicles
540 Static Guns
198 MRLS
Commanded by: Lieutenant General

CORPS: Four Divisions
57,280 Infantry (including Gun Crew)
1,800 IFVs
6980 MBTs OR 10,000 Airborne Infantry
2400 Mobile AAA
2492 Trucks
1000 AVRE Vehicles
2160 Static Guns
792 MRLS
Commanded by: General



*: Support company being 55 men led by a 2nd lieutenant, with various AA, AT, and AP weaponry.

**: Static Artillery Regiment being consisted of 120 Guns, ranging from 80 mm mortars to 122mm AT guns. Led by a captain , consists of 300 men (including crew) and 128 relevant trucks.

***:A Mechanised Regiment being two rifle companies (280 men) plus support detachment (40 men) plus Regiment Command (20 men) 340 total. Supported by 50 IFVs, 22 trucks, 25 MBTs, and 25 Mobile AAA.

*****: Armoured Regiment being six squadrons of tanks (150 MBTs), a command unit (5 MBTs), an AAA section (15 mobile AAA). In total, 90 tanks.

******: MRLS regiment being: three MRLS squadrons, totalling (66 vehicles), 22 trucks, and an AAA section (15 mobile AAA) in total, 103 vehicles.

*******: An Engineer regiment being two companies of engineers on foot (280 men) plus command section (20 men), two squadrons of AVRE (Armoured Vehicle, Red Engineers) vehicles totalling (50 vehicles), an AAA detachment (15 mobile AAA), 22 trucks,, in total 300 men and 87 vehicles.

Currently there are Four Corps currently trained;
40th Army Corp
41st Army Corp
56th Army Corp
55th Army Corp
All Divisions are Guard Divisions, the elite Soldiers of the Sovereign Soviet Republics of Hogsweat. However, the 40th Army Corp and the 41st Army Corp have their MBT elements replaced with Airborne Forces: Instead of the overall 6980 tanks per Corp they have 10,000 Airborne Infantry per Corp.
These four Corps come to a total of
229,120 Guards Infantry [Including Gun Crew]
7,200 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
13,960 Main Battle Tanks
9,600 Mobile Anti-Air Artillery
9,968 Trucks
4,000 AVRE Vehicles
8,640 Static Guns
20,000 Guards Airborne Infantry
3168 MRLS

EQUIPMENT


Merkava IV MBT (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/merkava4/)
BTR50P Infantry Fighting Vehicle (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/btr-50.htm)
2S6M Tunguska Anti-Aircraft Artillery (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/2s6m.htm)
BM 30 Smerch Multiple Rocket Launch System 300mm: One of Two MRLS Used by Hogsweatian Forces (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/9a52.htm)
2P140 Uragan Multiple Rocket Launch System 220mm: Second of Two MRLS Used by Hogsweatian Forces (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/9p140.htm)
2A62 152mm Field Gun: One of Four Static Artillery Used By Hogsweatian Forces (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/2a6t.htm)
T12 100mm Anti Tank Gun: Second Of Four Static Artillery Used By Hogsweatian Forces (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/t-12.htm)
2S7 Self Propelled Gun: While not being exactly static artillery, it falls under the static artillery category: Third of Four Static Artillery Used By Hogsweatian Forces (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/2s7.htm)
IS122 122mm Mortar. Fourth of Four Static Artillery Used By Hogsweatian Forces
Some of the Trucks used by the Hogsweatian Revolutionary Army (http://www.armybook.com/im/big/bj7-01.jpg)

A STANDARD COMPANY
Infantry
Six man sniper team, 3x RT-20 Anti Material Rifles (http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn56-e.htm)

Four man sniper team, 2x RT-20 Anti Material Rifles (http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn56-e.htm) (all carry rifles)

The other 110 is split into 8 man squads consisting of,

1x AW50 Fifty Calibre Rifle (http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn25-e.htm)
1x MILAN ATGM (user carries Rifle (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/milan/)
1x Pecheneg MG (user carries Rifle) (http://www.world.guns.ru/machine/mg30-e.htm)
1x CIS .50 HMG (user carries rifle) (http://www.world.guns.ru/machine/mg05-e.htm)
4x HIR47 Rifle (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7791943#post7791943)
Each HIR rifle is equipped with the 35mm grenade launcher. Each soldier carries 3 35mm grenades, and 4 frag grenades. Soldiers are equipped with Kevlar Body Armour and Steel helmets. Some have Ushanka's. All have combat knives. Every soldier has the SOCOM Sidearm (http://www.hkpro.com/socom.htm).

There are 11 of these squads; Alpha, Beta, Charlie, Delta, Foxtrot, Echo, Hotel, Intimate, Juliet, Kilo, Ligament. And the Sniper unit is called Tango. The Command team is called Romeo.

Command Section
10 men with HIR 47 rifles [and kit], including communications and the Company Leader.

5 men, with three MILAN's [all carry rifles and kit]

5 men, with three RT 20 AT Rifles [all carry rifles and kit]

THE HOME BRIGADE
The home brigade is a militia, which is state sponsored. Their budget is 500bn per annum. The Home Brigade is a continuation of National Service for individuals that do not enter the Army itself but wish to continue Military Service. The Home Brigade organisation is;

Brigade:
18,000 men

Division
48,000 Men

Corps:
Four Divisions, 192,000 Men

Home Brigade Total Infantry
1,152,000 Infantry

The Home Brigade consists generally of all infantry, although there is some Army-Provided Artillery support. There are currently six Home Brigade Corps, but four are deactivated and the only activated Corps are used for guard duty, escort, etc etc. They act as the nations police force.
Activated Home Brigade:
384,000
Deactivated Home Brigade:
768,000

http://www3.telus.net/public/nixonkg/dads%20army.jpg
General Manwarring, Founder of the Home Brigade

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Kriegorgrad: How potent are conscripts in urban fighting, because from what I know of war, bolt action rifles aren't the pinnacle of excellence in a cramped hell hole of urban fighting.

Answer: Generally, when in urban fighting, Hogsweatian Combat Doctrine favours the bayonet and the submachine gun for close combat. Generally, three members from each Fireteam are elected the honour of using the D055/44 submachine gun; the drum round, high rate of fire, and high calibre ensures victory over any modern assault rifle However, as a fireteam is comprised of 8 members, this leaves the other 5 with the bolt-action-rifle D055/12 - this is where bayonet and grenade come in. And anyway, why shoot twenty five cartridges when one to the head will do?

Conscripts, in Urban combat, however, are employed in a way that they will be useful for the advance of the Elite Guards Units - Generally defensive operations in important places ; eg, hospitals etc etc (by Hogsweatian Combat Doctrine Hospitals are not considered places that should not be used in times of war for an invading army).

Kriegorgrad:But, say if it was a house fight, how can one properly manouvure his bolt action rifle to counter an enemy with say, a thompson sub machine gun, couldn't he just spray at the rifleman, thus disabling more than half of the fire team in one fell swoop.

Answer Possible, however, if said Fireteam throws a flashbang (Not that conscripts are trained to use grenades; assuming we are talking about a Guards unit), several grenades, and then sprays the room with 7.62mm ammunition, said westerner is dead before he can use your suggested anti-Hogsweatian tactic.

And in any case, there's always more where that came from.

OOC: Thank god, a communist nation who can actually keep the flavour of communism in his army, rather than being communist and having the "OMG UBER RICH" armies that you see in an awful lot of Nationstates.

And by the way, great pictures!

IC: How potent are conscripts in urban fighting, because from what I know of war, bolt action rifles aren't the pinnacle of excellence in a cramped hell hole of urban fighting.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

OOC: Thanks =)
IC:
Generally, when in urban fighting, Hogsweatian Combat Doctrine favours the bayonet and the submachine gun for close combat. Generally, three members from each Fireteam are elected the honour of using the D055/44 submachine gun; the drum round, high rate of fire, and high calibre ensures victory over any modern assault rifle :) However, as a fireteam is comprised of 8 members, this leaves the other 5 with the bolt-action-rifle D055/12 - this is where bayonet and grenade come in. And anyway, why shoot twenty five cartridges when one to the head will do?

Conscripts, in Urban combat, however, are employed in a way that they will be useful for the advance of the Elite Guards Units - Generally defensive operations in important places ; eg, hospitals etc etc (by Hogsweatian Combat Doctrine Hospitals are not considered places that should not be used in times of war for an invading army).

OOC: 'Welcome. ^^

IC: But, say if it was a house fight, how can one properly manouvure his bolt action rifle to counter an enemy with say, a thompson sub machine gun, couldn't he just spray at the rifleman, thus disabling more than half of the fire team in one fell swoop.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

ooc: ahh you say this is everything I need to know but... I didn't really need or want to know your military dresses like construction workers. :D, but the numbers and stats are nice ;)

Possible, however, if said Fireteam throws a flashbang (Not that conscripts are trained to use grenades; assuming we are talking about a Guards unit), several grenades, and then sprays the room with 7.62mm ammunition, said westerner is dead before he can use your suggested anti-Hogsweatian tactic.

And in any case, there's always more where that came from.

ooc: ahh you say this is everything I need to know but... I didn't really need or want to know your military dresses like construction workers. :D, but the numbers and stats are nice ;)

Albeit construction workers with flak jackets and helmets...Well then, maybe I shouldn't have told you, so then next time I fight you you'll never guess my men are soldiers, and not construction workers..

Possible, however, if said Fireteam throws a flashbang (Not that conscripts are trained to use grenades; assuming we are talking about a Guards unit), several grenades, and then sprays the room with 7.62mm ammunition, said westerner is dead before he can use your suggested anti-Hogsweatian tactic.

And in any case, there's always more where that came from.

Yes, I suppose that is an efficent tactic but what if the aggressor took cover behind something and then waited for the Hogsweatian soldiers to confidently stride in, thinking they are safe because of the flashbang, what is to stop the soldier from leaping up and pouring round after round into the Hogsweatian soldiers...well then again, if that is the case, I think your last sentence covers it.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

OOC: Well, this will prove handy in my war against you in Iraq/Kuwait... :)

OOC: Well, this will prove handy in my war against you in Iraq/Kuwait... :)
But that's not me, thats the USSR.

Bump: Added Home Brigade.

7.62 NATO ammo in a SMG is gonna have crazy recoil!

It is a WWII era SMG, after all.

Official Reply:

First of all, why bolt action rifles? And second, why not our rifles which are far superior?
Ministry of Defense

((OOC: I couldn't resist :P))

7.62mm NATO? 7.62x51mm? Surely 7.62x25mm Russian as used in the PPSh family SMGs? BG formerly used that, but abandoned it for a serious lack of stopping power, adopting an entirely original native round. I can't imagine anyone trying to use 7.62mm NATO as a SMG round, especially not in WWII, since, uhm, I don't think that it existed then... NATO certainly didn't. Even 7.62x39mm Russian (as in the AK47 et cetera) would be a bit bonkers.

Edit: Bolt action rifles? For sniping, surely. No issue with the sniper being betrayed by the evacuation associated with automatic fire, eh?

No, the Bolt Action Rifle is the standard issue for my troops.. I think it's four to a fireteam. And yeah, thank's BG, It is 7.62x25mm.

OOC: Seriously with the bolt action rifles for your conscripts.... there are places in africa were you can get an Ak-47 for less than it costs to park a car in NYC.
Why dont you just go with the classic Kalishnakovs?

OOC: Seriously with the bolt action rifles for your conscripts.... there are places in africa were you can get an Ak-47 for less than it costs to park a car in NYC.
Why dont you just go with the classic Kalishnakovs?

Oh, I don't know, maybe because say, I LIKE Bolt Action Rifles? Maybe because I want a unique army, rather then OMG TEH LEETEST MODERNE TEC, which is fine, but when everyone has it, things start to get boring. And if you haven't noticed, there -is- a Kalashnikov there, it's just not in use with Standard Infantry forces. The Airborne and Mechanised use it.

Oh, I don't know, maybe because say, I LIKE Bolt Action Rifles? Maybe because I want a unique army, rather then OMG TEH LEETEST MODERNE TEC, which is fine, but when everyone has it, things start to get boring.

OOC: *unless it is ARSB tech we're talking about, because that is nice equipment and not just bullshit with no reasoning behind it, also his new VEPR NGCS looks damn scary...like those soldiers out of the Final Fantasy film, just the kind of image I like.

And to answer Phoenix Militia's question in three words rather than Hog's angry rant: Role Play value.

EDIT: Bollocks, this was meant to be a post with the account Kriegorgrad.

I didn't say it was bad, I just said when everyone has a copy of the latest AXRAAM things start to get a little boring.

I didn't say it was bad, I just said when everyone has a copy of the latest AXRAAM things start to get a little boring.

OOC: Yea, I know where you're coming from there, that what I like to use custom equipment, you rarely get more than 5-10 people using the same piece of (custom) equipment.

OOC:
:cool: :cool: :cool:
Sweet! Some work went into that. More than 90% are willing to put in. Some interesting quirks - WWII tech (bolt action rifles) mixed with future tech (ETC cannons on your tanks). I like it.

And I completely understand about getting bored at everyone doing the M1a1/T90 thing - I'm slowly undertaking to create a *complete* line of unique personal equipment myself.

Questions:
You've got combat units and some support units, but seem to be missing details that go with the great big support (quartermasters, logistics medical, intelligence etc.). Care to detail that as well? (It would make it so much sweeter! :D)

What's your IC explanation for the mixed tech? A good IC explanation for that would be completely AWSOME! :cool:

Heh, thanks a lot! Some things to answer there;

Bout Medical Staff, Quarter masters, etc etc- Thanks for bringing that up. I'll possibly add that in tonight, but i'll definitly get round to it. When I do, i'll send you a TG.

IC... well, to be honest, i've been thinking of one, and I just can't think of it! Maybe something about producing ammunition, or neccessary parts... but anyway, if I do think of one I'll TG you to tell you I have.

Again, thanks!

OOC:
look at this for some ideas: http://globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/intro.htm

And feel free to borrow organizational details from me: Daistallian Armed Forces (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/military/armedforces.html) (old and slightly out of date, but you should get some good ideas.)

Semi-IC: If you are interested, there are a number of Daistallian Private Military Companies which are willing to assist in training and organization at quite a low rate (due to their being manned by active duty military on paid sabatical, for the purposes of experience.)

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