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OOC: I'm a bit new at this....any questions and comments, TG me.

IC:

T-4 Blueprints (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/type-90_japan_4-line.gif)

T-4 in Operation Peace Coral excercises in Mexico (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/type-90-riku5a.jpg)

Artist's Mockup of a T-4 (http://www.tamiya.com/english/commerce/type90/type90_3.jpg)

Wuhan, UX (XNS)- Today, Xenizen National Armscorp of Upper Xen, in conjunction with Mitsubishi and Fuji Heavy Industries and the Vigilante Armories of the Committee of Vigilance, has announced the release of the T4 MBT, a new MBT designed to compete with most modern tanks, such as Decisive Action's T-99.

Dr. Fujikawa Keisuke (http://www.petitpois.net/junk/junk01/serizawa.jpg) of Mitsubishi, a well known and eccentric weapons designer (who only allowed this comical sketch to be released), said of his joint creation: "This tank, under rigorous testing in the in Alaska, Mexico, Yunnan and Xinjiang Provinces and Tibet, proved itself to be more effective than the M1a2 Abrams, and quicker than the T-99, as well as more heavily armed. We have the tools to defend liberty with the greatest efficency and power."

Fujikawa also boasted of its newly developed 135mm TC-2 Smoothbore Gun, which "is accurate to up to 15,000 feet, thanks to an accurate manual periscope and the BTC-3 Laser Guidance System. It can fire sabot shot, DU rounds, beehive shot, Anti-Infantry Submunition Shot (AISS), HE shot, and special Heavy Piercing Shot, for sieges and bunker busting."

Fujikawa explained how this system works. "It uses a camera and a laser to designate targets, and GPS plus real-time information links to pinpoint their exact distance and location. The BTC-3 then figures the exact amount of power and arc needed to hit the target dead-on, and fires the shot-all within 30 seconds, less. We have tested this time and time again, using moving and stationary targets of both modern and vintage make. We have used cars, tanks, old APC's, you name it, we blew the hell out of it."

Fujikawa noted with pleasure, "We especially used copies of the T-99 export model supplied by the Committee of Vigilance, both for target practice and comaprison testing."

Fujikawa noted that the tank "is built for a driver, commander, gunner and loader. Utilizing recent advances in computing and microprocessors, we have built faster, more powerful battle computers that reduced the amount of space needed for electronics, freeing room for the crew to move comfortably and get their job done."

He then went on to say: "The tank has about 3.5 inches of composite armor plate on the front, 3.5 on the back and 2.5 on the sides, plus 3.5 inches on the turret and top of the tank. We also have Kontakt-5 Explosive reactive Armor for added defense. We aren't at liberty to divluge all of the materials inside, but we can say that nano-carbon chainmail is part of the mix. What we can also say is that these materials are light, strong, and withstood days upon weeks of shot and torture tests, using Rheinmetall and Soviet cannons, small arms, rough terrain driving, river crossings, jumps, and severe impacts that would have bent ordinary steel."

Speed was noted as part of the presentation.

"This tank is capable of going at about 52mph. No buts about it. This is due to the newly developed Combat Engine, Tank or CET, Model 2. This is a Deltic diesel engine, modified and computer-aided for maximum fuel efficency and operating at 4,400hp and 3,800rpm. Tests have given the mileage of this tank at about 35 miles per gallon. On a cross country drive, the tank's range decreases, but the mileage is about 20 miles."

Fujikawa also noted: "The tank has a .50cal pintle mounted Browning M2 and a set of co-axial and loader's mounted 7.62mm NATO M240G machine guns. It is also fully equipped iwth the indeginously made M56 NBC System, which provides long-term protection in combat against all major NBC weapons types. Long-term, meaning at least 90-200 hours. It also has a crew escape hatch fitted on the rear of the tank for ease of escape in case the tank does get damaged."

The tank is slated to replace the M1A2 Abrams in Xenizen service in 2005 as the "Shingen," and is slated to join the COV as the "Vigilante."


UPDATE:

Newer Production Models of T-4 now come with Wakazashi LAMS system, mounted on the turret. Consisting of a 5,000wt carbon laser refracted through a diamond matrix which targets guidance systems on incoming missiles and can detonate missiles in midair, this system is 67% accurate and can deflect many types of AT missiles, such as the Bazalt RPG series and the SMAW. Range is effective to 750 yards and it uses a 250-hour battery. Unit also has an onboard CPU capable of tracking multiple targets, and average reaction time was estimated at 5 seconds per target.

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GENERAL STATS:

Weight: 76 US Tons
Length Overall: 30 feet
Width Overall: 9.45 feet with skirt attachments
Height Overall: 7.5 feet
Ammo Capacity: 50 Shells, 1,500 rds for .50 pintle MG, 12,000 for coaxial and loader's MG's, 50 smoke grenades.
Speed: 52mph
Acceleration (0-20 mph): 6.7 Seconds
Speed on a 10% Grade: 20mph
Speed on a 60% Grade: 13mph


WEAPONS STATS

Cannon Type: 135mm Smoothbore TC-2 Gun
Type of Shells fired: sabot shot, DU rounds, beehive shot, proprietary Anti-Infantry Submunition Shot (AISS), HE shot, and special Heavy Piercing Shot, for sieges and bunker busting.
Range: 15,000ft
Targeting systems: BTC-2 "Fortuneteller" Battle Computer and Manual Periscope
Other Weapons: 1 .50cal pintle mounted Browning M2HB, M240G (FN MAG) 7.62mm Machine gun on co-axial and loader's mount.
Point Defenses: 1 Wakazashi LAMS unit, mounted on the turret, uses 3kw Classified Laser to target missiles in midair, detonating them with 67% accuracy at 1,200yds. Reaction time for this system is 5 seconds per target. Has a 250 hour power cell.
Armor type: Composite (uses Nano-Carbon Chainmail and other Classified Materials), plus Kontakt-5 Reactive Armor.



ENGINE STATS

Engine Type: CET-2 Deltic
Performance: 4,400hp and 3,800rpm
Mileage, Urban: 35mpg
Mileage, Cross Counrty: 20mpg



ARMOR PERFORMANCE

Armor Performance, Front:
Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,600
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,000

Armor Performance, Sides:
Against HEAT: 650-850
Against APFSDS: 400-800

Armor Performance, Rear:
Against HEAT: 440
Against APFSDS: 280

Armor Performance, Turret:
Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,800
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,150

Armor Performance, Top:
Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 520
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 200 [/COLOR]


SAFETY STATS:

NBC System: M56 900-hour filter system
Crew Escape Systems: Yes, has a hatch on the rear of tank and on the bottom in case of rollover.
Ammo Storage: Uses a seperate compartment, secure from NBC and conventional attack.
Fuel Storage: One main tank inside the vehicle, two auxiliaries inside the rear of the Tank.






The Tank is available for USD$12,000,000 per unit.

OOC: Special thanks to DPUO, Chellis, and Praetonia for tweaks and fixes. You guys were great.

Satisfied customers include:

Roach-Busters
DPUO
Hallad

OOC: Some notes:

1) Petrol is more efficient than hydrogen fuel cells.

2) That's WAY too light, considering the armour and the railgun you have on there.

3) I would IGNORE the railgun, because there is no powersource possible in modern tech capable of powering a railgun that can fit into the tank. It's best to go with an ETC, and make it smoothbored. Even if the railgun is possible, those velocities will wear off the rifling in just a few shots.

4) Can you give some RHA armour values?

5) Nice to see you've given it a realistic speed. EDIT: Nope, sorry, not realistic at all... I was looking at the incline speeds.

Fixed Speeds, changed to Diesel Turbine, and made weight more realistic.

How should I compute RHA stats? I am new to this-I make better subs.

OOC: No worries, everyone starts sometime. Your basic problem was to base it off the T-99, which is pretty godmodded like all of DA's other tanks. Although I would press the point on the tank railgun, which I think is the most serious issue. I can understand a ship having a railgun, and maybe some sort of over-sized plane, but not a tank.

As for RHAs... Im not entirely sure. CSJ made a thread on tank design once... anyway, you give two values, one for effectiveness against HEAT style rounds, one for effectiveness against AP penetrator-type rounds. The latter is almost always lower. RHA = Rolled Hermogenous Steel, and it's the equal effectiveness, in flat, armour steel, as the thickness, modified by slope and better materials. A good value is 1000 (1300), or something. If you want a massive armoured turtle tank like the T-99, it can go a lot higher BUT the speed drops hugely to about 20mph max on-road. And, you cant just wish it all away using carbon. That can be used to help, but 1 gram of carbon nanotubes = $200 in real life. Therefore, 1 tonne = $200,000,000. You can see the problem in massive cost...

OOC: Thanks....

((Just put a Headcrab Cannon on it^^))

OOC: That may be a potential variant, but for now, I'm sticking to conventional wisdom.

More updates: RHA values, etc.

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ooc: Well, judging by the headcrabs, i'd say that upper xen is a little more futuretech than most nations. I use a cold fusion generator on my small railguns (tank and infantry based) and "hot" fusion on my big railguns (ship, gunship, defense emplacements etc. I'm about 20 years into the future though.

OOC: Actually, I am a modern tech nation. My nation's history holds that we were conquered once by the aliens from Xen in the 1200's, but an alternate universe Gordon Freeman and Barney Calhoun helped to lead a resistance and free our land around the time of the American Revoultion. So, we do have Headcrabs........and we actively conscript Vortiguants and Alien Grunts into the army.

Note this depiction of Gordon is an alternate universe. We are mainly set in 2000-2010, 2030 at the most.

So....any orders? The price has been lowered.

ooc:I'm set around 2015-2030. Railguns have already been invented and we're about 1 step away from true fusion IRL, and no, i don't need tanks at this moment.

Well, when you do, you know where to look.


Bump it on down.....

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Think one of those can take down one of my DT-113 Drone Tanks? (Dual railgun armed and has spider leg propulsion for better travel in rough terrain.)

OOC: Is that a challenge, or a mere question?

What am I doing wrong........

ooc: question. TG me if you want to make it a challenge.

OOC: Well, our tracking system is very competitive, and the speed is decent, plus it has good armor, so it could stand a chance, though a slim one.

No thanks.......I am not seeking a challenge.

ooc: ok

Everybody! The T-4 is available for export! For just USD$13,000,000 you can make this formidable machine a part of your army today. Do not fear...for it has undergone great tests to prove its worth, and we would not sell you a dud.

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Very impracticle tank...Very heavy, tons of armour, low speed, very weak gun(2,000 ft range... Compared to at least 12,000 on most regular tanks, 15,000 or so for Challanger 2's). The best thing for someone to do would be to call for artillery, or IFV's with HOT missiles. Also, how much armour does the top have? With all the armour on the bottom, it couldnt be much at all...The abhrams is 70 tons, and way less armour on the sides and back.

OOC: Easy there, this is my first tank....I design subs mainly.

Fixed speed and range and weight, and added horsepower.

TAG for possible future orders by my MT side once the bugs have been worked out of this design idea.

Although, I must say, the problems there are seem to very very fundmental flaws. Try aiming for some more realism here, these people know what they're talking about.

What flaws are there that you have noticed? I have been tweaking these numbers and bringing them up to code. If you have seen anything, please tell me.

OOC: hello?

OOC: *SIGH* If anybody has any suggestions to fix this tank, please let me know! I am getting quite frustrated, and am out of ideas.

Your tanks weighs less than the abrams, and has more armour everywhere than the Abrams has in its front...thats one unrealistic part...

My Suggestions(really, just suggestions) for that weights


Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT: 1,230
Against APFSDS: 930

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 750-950
Against APFSDS: 500-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 650
Against APFSDS: 400

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT: 1,345
Against APFSDS: 1,050

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT: 100
Against APFSDS: N/A

Your tanks weighs less than the abrams, and has more armour everywhere than the Abrams has in its front...thats one unrealistic part...

My Suggestions(really, just suggestions) for that weights


Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT: 1,230
Against APFSDS: 930

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 750-950
Against APFSDS: 500-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 650
Against APFSDS: 400

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT: 1,345
Against APFSDS: 1,050

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT: 100
Against APFSDS: N/A

Thanks, man. You just relieved a lot of stress. I did place more armor on the top, though....but I think weight is more of an issue. Perhaps I should shift it to 70 tons.

Thanks, man. You just relieved a lot of stress. I did place more armor on the top, though....but I think weight is more of an issue. Perhaps I should shift it to 70 tons.

Just suggestions. I suggested that for the top, because ERA can be used on the top, with a flat top like this tank has, quite easily. Top-attack munitions usually don't have a method of defeating ERA. Your main threat would be javelins, with 600mm penetration...You would need probably at least 200-250mm, plus ERA, to protect...but top armour is really, really weight intensive.

OOC: How does it look now......what else could be fixed?

OOC: Anybody else have any ideas?

Fixed some numbers, weights.

Okeydokey...I'd reduce the ammo allocation, just a bit, maybe to about 50 rounds of main gun ammo. Also, I'd place some good ERA (think Kontakt-5) on the front and the upperworks to increase the RHA value without increasing mass too much. Apart from that, not looking bad now. Oh, one more things: call the engine a Deltic. Very compact, very powerful diesels.

OOC: Cool. How much extra performance will the Kontakt 5 grant?

I think it's usually between 200 and 300 millimetres, if the figures for the RL T-90M are to be believed. Very handy stuff. AGainst HEAT of course it's far more effective.

OOC: How about now?

Hmm. I'd say take down the rear armour by about 150mm (both) and the side by about 100mm (both), and with that reduce the weight a bit...then again, that's really just my liking for faster, lighter tanks coming through. I think it looks all right as it is. Could I buy a battalion (32) for evaluation?

Well, it has been tweaked. You can have a battalion for USD$192,000,000. That's half off the original price, International members discount.

You also get a special thanks mention...Thanks, man.

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Attention all potential buyers:

We have made the tank more reasonable. Check it out.

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We would like to purchase one unit to place in the Halladi Military Antiquities Museum, in the city of Ryydra.

The Commissariat of War
The Socialist Federation of Hallad

"We can sell you one for USD$12,000,000."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

OOC: No offense, Is this a joke?

bump...all orders have been confirmed.

OOC: No, I'm collecting foreign tanks. The Museum is filled with Halladi equipment. Needs new stuff!

IC:

We'd be willing to pay 10,000,000 USD, as the tank will never see service.

The Commissaroat of War
The Socialist Federation of Hallad

"Very well. We will take USD$10,000,000. Take care of her well, and may she not be remembered as the 'New Coke Tank.'"

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Thank you very much. We have wired to money to the Upper Xenian (?) international bank account.

The Commissariat of War
The Socialist Federation of Hallad

"Xenizen is fine. And these funds are going to Xenizen National Armscorp, which is partly owned by the government."

"Thank you again."


Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

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The R.O.K. Army had expressed interest in buying this MTB, however, after some review, there seems to be no need, as our own next generation forces will have no need for heavy tanks. Our currrent heavy divisions of A-2 Mk.IIs have been deemed adequate for our Home Guard forces. Spending large amounts of valuable funds, the majority of which has already been allocated towards our NGMM (Next Generation Mobility/Modernization) program, on what our military has previously deemed strategically and tactically obsolete would be unwise, and downright fool hardy.

However, our very own EMI is very intersted in aquiring production rights to this MTB, and is prepared to pay large sums of money to do so. They will make an offer once you have confirmed that you will sell production rights.

Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 2,620
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 2,230

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 650-850
Against APFSDS: 400-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 640
Against APFSDS: 540

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 2,220
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,830

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,480
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 960

Way too much protection added with ERA. ERA with HEAT generally adds about 300mm of protection, maybe 400. Also, APFSDS doesn't get affected much by ERA. Some more realistic numbers...

Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1.600
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,000

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 650-850
Against APFSDS: 400-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 640
Against APFSDS: 480

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,800
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,150

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 520
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 200

The R.O.K. Army had expressed interest in buying this MTB, however, after some review, there seems to be no need, as our own next generation forces will have no need for heavy tanks. Our currrent heavy divisions of A-2 Mk.IIs have been deemed adequate for our Home Guard forces. Spending large amounts of valuable funds, the majority of which has already been allocated towards our NGMM (Next Generation Mobility/Modernization) program, on what our military has previously deemed strategically and tactically obsolete would be unwise, and downright fool hardy.

However, our very own EMI is very intersted in aquiring production rights to this MTB, and is prepared to pay large sums of money to do so. They will make an offer once you have confirmed that you will sell production rights.

"National Armscorp will sell you the rights for USD$5,000,000. We ask for a 10% royalty of all profits made from sales of this product. It is a shame you do not enjoy the revamped T-4, however, to each his own."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 2,620
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 2,230

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 650-850
Against APFSDS: 400-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 640
Against APFSDS: 540

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 2,220
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,830

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,480
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 960

Way too much protection added with ERA. ERA with HEAT generally adds about 300mm of protection, maybe 400. Also, APFSDS doesn't get affected much by ERA. Some more realistic numbers...

Armor Performance, front:

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1.600
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,000

Armor Performance, Sides:

Against HEAT: 650-850
Against APFSDS: 400-800

Armor Performance, Rear:

Against HEAT: 640
Against APFSDS: 480

Armor Performance, Turret

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 1,800
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 1,150

Armor Performance, Top

Against HEAT+Kontakt 5: 520
Against APFSDS+Kontakt 5: 200

Updates made, numbers fixed.

bump for a response.......

"National Armscorp will sell you the rights for USD$5,000,000. We ask for a 10% royalty of all profits made from sales of this product. It is a shame you do not enjoy the revamped T-4, however, to each his own."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Accountants here at EMI would like to somehow negotiate for the removal of the 10% loyalty.

Quote random person at EMI, "You're not getting a FS'KING CENT!!!!"

The Concordiat is willing to buy 30 units, with which to test against our own prototype heavy tank-destroyers. Is this permissable/allowed? If so, telegram us with the details.

Well that's much better. Although the rear armour should be lower... it should be much lower than the rear and certainly lower than 50% of the front. Ambrams and Challengers can be knocked out by 30mm APFSDS rounds on the rear... and you might want to upgun to an ETC or a 135mm. The Gilgamesh (arguably the most successful NS export tank) has a 155mm, which I think is too big, but 135 - 140 should be fine.

Accountants here at EMI would like to somehow negotiate for the removal of the 10% loyalty.

Quote random person at EMI, "You're not getting a FS'KING CENT!!!!"


"This is our idea. We demand some kind of royalty, as we originally made it, and you will make money off of of this. We have to be acknowledged-we are not going the Kalashnikov route and having the creator ending up poor while others reap the profits and enjoy our product royalty free for cheap. You can sell it for USD$12,000,000-we ask for ten percent of that. It will not necessitate a rise in cost to you."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Well that's much better. Although the rear armour should be lower... it should be much lower than the rear and certainly lower than 50% of the front. Ambrams and Challengers can be knocked out by 30mm APFSDS rounds on the rear... and you might want to upgun to an ETC or a 135mm. The Gilgamesh (arguably the most successful NS export tank) has a 155mm, which I think is too big, but 135 - 140 should be fine.

Upgunned to 135mm, and armor tweaked.

OOC: No worries, everyone starts sometime. Your basic problem was to base it off the T-99, which is pretty godmodded like all of DA's other tanks.

OOC: True...his planes seem quite...odd, too. Does anybody know why the MiG-41 can go to Mach 4? No normal plane can do that without severe stress on the airframe.

Because DA doesnt know as much about military technology as he does about story writing...

Upgunned to 135mm, and armor tweaked.
Cool. You've got a nice realistic and powerful tank there.

OOC: Well, it took an embarrassment level not seen the era of New Coke and lots of work and help :), but I think that it was nice. On the other hand, I may not make another one.....

Thanks one and all again for your help!

The Headcrab Bomb might need tweaking. Any experienced weapons makers are welcome to join.

Bump for orders. Let's get this show on the road!

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I would like to purchase 10,000 of these for $120,000,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation. Thanks!

"Order has been confirmed, RB. The tanks will come quickly as possible in about 11 NS months. Thank you for your generous order."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

"Order has been confirmed, RB. The tanks will come quickly as possible in about 11 NS months. Thank you for your generous order."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

Thank you. We look forward to purchasing from you again in the future.

(OOC: WHOA!! That was the quickest confirmation I've ever had! :D)

OOC: Thanks!

IC:

"Indeed. We have a new line of Headcrab Munitions if you are interested. In the meantime, have a good day. God bless."

Klimenti Rokosovssky
Director
Xenizen National Armscorp

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bump for interest, orders.

OOC: One last thing, the gun range is kinda god-modey... It should be about 12,000ft...maybe 15,000 at the very max...

bump, fixed range

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bump for interest.....can this tank go against the T-99 and live? Voice your opinion.

one final bump for orders.............

bump for interest.....can this tank go against the T-99 and live? Voice your opinion.

No, because the T-99 is a godmode.

Okay. I wonder how he got away with it......

He didn't really. He just ignored (in the English language sense, not the NS sense) everyone who told him it was godmod.

Intriguing......

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bump for orders and interest. Surely there is a market for this awesome machine......

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bump for orders and interest.........

c'mon, people! Buy some! You won't regret it!

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Bump...we use this tank too. We find it to be quite a powerful and useful war machine.....

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bump-added Wakazashi LAMS. Enjoy!

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OOC: No worries, everyone starts sometime. Your basic problem was to base it off the T-99, which is pretty godmodded like all of DA's other tanks. Although I would press the point on the tank railgun, which I think is the most serious issue. I can understand a ship having a railgun, and maybe some sort of over-sized plane, but not a tank.

As for RHAs... Im not entirely sure. CSJ made a thread on tank design once... anyway, you give two values, one for effectiveness against HEAT style rounds, one for effectiveness against AP penetrator-type rounds. The latter is almost always lower. RHA = Rolled Hermogenous Steel, and it's the equal effectiveness, in flat, armour steel, as the thickness, modified by slope and better materials. A good value is 1000 (1300), or something. If you want a massive armoured turtle tank like the T-99, it can go a lot higher BUT the speed drops hugely to about 20mph max on-road. And, you cant just wish it all away using carbon. That can be used to help, but 1 gram of carbon nanotubes = $200 in real life. Therefore, 1 tonne = $200,000,000. You can see the problem in massive cost...


The T-99 is my Medium Tank, not a massive bulk of a tank like the T-98MBT or the T-98W (my heavy and super-heavy tanks, respectively)

OOC: Any orders, questions and comments? Anybody? This is a general question.....for all.

I must be doing something wrong.....the tank was made realistic, what else is wrong?

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