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The Rosian Defense Ministry has now announced the RAR-7 Series. The RAR-7 Series will replace the venerable RAR-1 Series. The improvements will include a better sight system, a more functional grenade launcher using the classic M203 system. The handle will also be fixed and will not be able to screw off as a silencer. Also, the rifle will not use 5.56mm but rifled 9mm. Luckily, the Rosian Defense Ministry has released data for the RAR-7 series.


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The RAR-7A (Army Issue)
Caliber: 9mm Rifled
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 760mm
Barrel Length: 476mm
Weight (w/o mag): 3.3 kg
Maximum Effective Range: 640 meters
Magazine: 30 Box Magazine
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds per Minute
Price: 1,500$

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The RAR-7C (Carbine)
Caliber: 9mm Rifled
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 615mm
Barrel Length: 320mm
Weight: (w/o mag) 3.0 kg
Maximum Effective Range: 600 Meters
Magazine: 30 Rounds
Rate: 650 Rounds per Minute
Price: 1,200$

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The RAR-7K (Kommandoe)
Caliber: 9mm Rifled
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 500mm
Barrel Length: 226mm
Weight: (w/o mag) 2.7 kg
Maximum Effective Range: 570 Meters
Magazine: 30 Rounds
Rate: 650 Rounds per Minute
Price: 1,000$

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The RAR-7G (Grenade Launcher)
Caliber: 9mm Rifled
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 760mm
Barrel Length: 476mm
Weight (w/o mag): 3.7 kg
Maximum Effective Range: 640 meters
Magazine: 30 Box Magazine
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds per Minute
Grenade Size: 40mm
Price: 1,500$

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The RAR-7S (Sniper)
Caliber: 10mm Rifled
Action: Semi-Automatic, Roller-Delayed Blowback
Overall Length: 1100mm
Barrel Length: 510mm
Weight: 8.10 KG with Scope, no magazine, and bipod
Magazine: 5 Rounds on Detachable Box
Scope: Hendsoldt 6x42, 6 Settings from 100m to 600m
Price: 1,700$
Bipod is detachable

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The RAR-7M (SAW)
Caliber: 10mm Rifled
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 760mm
Barrel Length: 476mm
Weight (w/o mag, with bipod): 3.13 kg
Maximum Effective Range: 630 meters
Magazine: 200 Drum Magazine
Rate of Fire: 650 Rounds per Minute
Price: 1,650$
Bipod is detatachable


The 9mm rifled bullets will consist of blended metals which in theory will be able to rip the limb of a soldier and will be the rifle which will be used for the soon to be released AIBS system which will be used by the Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire and The Oceanic Commonwealth of The Island of Rose, which was designed by the HDC. The Defense Ministry has stated that the weapons are in fact for sale but production rights aren't, not even to close allies. The price of the rifles are 750R (Roses) which according the stock market equals to about 1,500$.

OOC:Mine's still sexier :) Seriously, though, good job. One thing though, there's no such thing as a 'rifled' bullet, the barrel of a weapon can be rifled, as in it has grooves to cause the projectile to turn thereby increasing accuracy, I think you mean a lengthened 9mm, right?

Yay for TIoRs gun! RAWR!

OOC:Mine's still sexier :) Seriously, though, good job. One thing though, there's no such thing as a 'rifled' bullet, the barrel of a weapon can be rifled, as in it has grooves to cause the projectile to turn thereby increasing accuracy, I think you mean a lengthened 9mm, right?

((OOC: Yeah. But rifled just seemed better at the time.))

OOC:I'd say make it a 9x39mm, that would make it the same length of the rounds fired by the AK47 and 74, but the problem with a lengthened 9mm is that the recoil would be tremendous (the 9mm is alot wider than the 5.56 or even the 7.62), making it hard to use in room to room.

((OOC: I'm pretty sure I remeber reading that there is no 100% way to make bullets expand when and how you want them too. But an expanding bullet through the chest will stop someone just as well as a normal one will (plenty o'vitals in there). And wouldn't armor be even more effective if its designed to "fan" out?))

PS: You Rose, as I do believe that is the method your guns are using to "cut off" an soliders arm.

OOC:I'd say make it a 9x39mm, that would make it the same length of the rounds fired by the AK47 and 74, but the problem with a lengthened 9mm is that the recoil would be tremendous (the 9mm is alot wider than the 5.56 or even the 7.62), making it hard to use in room to room.

((OOC: Well that's why every Rosian soldier is armed with an SMG :P))

((OOC: I'm pretty sure I remeber reading that there is no 100% way to make bullets expand when and how you want them too. But an expanding bullet through the chest will stop someone just as well as a normal one will (plenty o'vitals in there). And wouldn't armor be even more effective if its designed to "fan" out?))

((OOC: Is that for me or Doom?))

OOC:As in an SMG and a rifle?

I have the similar SMG & Rifle set up with soldiers...instead of a pistol, I use a very compact SMG as a backup.

OOC:As in an SMG and a rifle?

((OOC: We use the Russian Bizon as an SMG. It hangs from the waist of every soldier. Its magazine carries 65 rounds and the soldier carries an extra magazine. It is smaller then an Uzi, and an Uzi is small. So I find it feasible.))

OOC:I know what a Bizon is (the one I sold you prod rights to is actualy better), but I don't waste money on sidearms, only for officers.

OOC:I know what a Bizon is (the one I sold you prod rights to is actualy better), but I don't waste money on sidearms, only for officers.

((OOC: Doom don't be bitter :P))

You think a 9 x 39mm bullet would have alot of recoil? Try the 10mm lol...

Anyways the Russian 9x39mm bullet is mainly produced in subsonic for their VSS and Val rifles, which greatly reduces its recoil.

EDIT: If we can make shotguns go fully automatic (in 12 gauge magnum) I think you can make a 9mm rifle have almost no recoil. Go with that caliber Island, not a bad pic (even though I would prefer the .45).

I have a 10mm on an SMG, and I have fired a 10mm in real life (not on a SMG). Its not that bad...

10mm on a Colt Delta Elite auto (which I have and have shot) is a VERY potent round, thats why the FBI dropped it because it went through people. It may not be that bad, but it is still a whole lot more powerful than the 9mm and .45, and even the .44 magnum.

Go with that caliber Island, not a bad pic (even though I would prefer the .45).

((OOC: Thank you. If it makes you feel better, I use the Colt 1911 and the Bizon rechambered for .45 :P))

((OOC: the .45 has a higher velocity round then the 9mm...and the 10mm may have gone through people, but so does the .50 chambered into the Desert Eagle. Also, for special ops, I would use a 9mm for hostage situations in case you hit soft flesh on a terrorist and it ends up hitting a hostage or something.))

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((OOC: I'm pretty sure I remeber reading that there is no 100% way to make bullets expand when and how you want them too. But an expanding bullet through the chest will stop someone just as well as a normal one will (plenty o'vitals in there). And wouldn't armor be even more effective if its designed to "fan" out?))

PS: You Rose, as I do believe that is the method your guns are using to "cut off" an soliders arm.

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That should answer ya =/

What makes you think a .50 AE will go through someone?

Even though it may vary on what type of ammo you use, I do not believe the 9mm has a higher fps than the .45. The 9mm weighs a whole lot less and travels much faster than the .45, the .45 just has better impact power. Same thing with the .50, it may be a big round but the bigger they are the slower they go. The 10mm is so powerful because of its velocity. Im sure it tops 1500 fps.. much more than your average pistol bullet because it is so light.

OOC:I've shot 9mm and .45, and the difference in recoil is barely noticable, although I've found the 9mm to be a bit more accurate.

We are interested in buying 50,000 RAR-7A (Army Issue). The total price comes to $75,000,000.00 USD. Money will be wired upon confirmation of our order.
-Yiannos Papandoniou, Minister of National Defense

OOC:I've shot 9mm and .45, and the difference in recoil is barely noticable, although I've found the 9mm to be a bit more accurate.

There wont be much of a difference there, given there is no difference in the strength of individual shooters. The 9mm may seem to be more accurate simply because it is so small and fast, but I assure you the .45 has a much greater stopping power.

We are interested in buying 50,000 RAR-7A (Army Issue). The total price comes to $75,000,000.00 USD. Money will be wired upon confirmation of our order.
-Yiannos Papandoniou, Minister of National Defense

Official Statement from The Oceanic Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

The Nationalized Rosian Arms Corporation will produce the weapons that you asked for. We hope that the RAR-7A serves your men well and maybe save their lives one day. Maybe you can use it as your main rifle one day too, but alas we can dream. We just hope that they serve you well.
Nikolai Geoff
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I would like to purchase 500,000 RAR-7G Grenade Launchers for $750,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation. Thanks!

What makes you think a .50 AE will go through someone?

Not through someone. I messed up. It could easily hit someone and go through certain parts of them. A 9mm can do the same, but not as likely as a .45 or 10mm.

Well yea depending on what body part... but I was mainly reffering to chest/center area of the body aka kill shots, not limb shots.

As long as it doesn't hit bone, it is possible for it to go through someone.

There was a hostage rescue on a plane where a officer used a .45 to subdue a terrorist, and the round ended up piercing through the man's shoulder and hitting a hostage who was sitting in their airplane seat.

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Depending on the bullet and the range, yes, nevertheless a rare occurance, ballistics just doesnt back it up.

Exactly. It is rare, but it can happen with almost every round.

I would like to purchase 500,000 RAR-7G Grenade Launchers for $750,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation. Thanks!

Woot, you like em! Okay they're coming to ya!

Woot, you like em! Okay they're coming to ya!

Yippie!!!! :D

(OOC: Thanks. :))

Well yea of course it can, but the point is here that the smaller, faster bullets (10mm, .357mag) are more likely to penetrate center mass shots and come out the back than are 9mm and .45.

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Well yea of course it can, but the point is here that the smaller, faster bullets (10mm, .357mag) are more likely to penetrate center mass shots and come out the back than are 9mm and .45.

True...I didn't even consider the .357, but yeah they have a higher probability.

Are you people gonna buy something?

I'm debating on which model, but yes I will.

I will take 200 RAR-7As, as well as 50 RAR-7Gs, for testing purposes.

If we enjoy them on our testing fields and they are good, expect a large purchase.

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I ordered... :)

I will take 200 RAR-7As, as well as 50 RAR-7Gs, for testing purposes.

If we enjoy them on our testing fields and they are good, expect a large purchase.

They will be flown towards you nation, we hope they are useful and we hope for another purchase.

We hope they meet our standards, and we thank The Island of Rose for their shipment. We will wire the proper monetary amount now.

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No thanks on buying some, but I will sell them for you in my storefront if you wish.

Sure Cotton, you can sell them. But give me the money and credit eh?

Oh and bump, new variant!

The Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc would like to purchase one RAR-7S. The money, $1700.00, will be wired upon confirmation. A comment was sent along with the order: "Due to the ever-increasing cost of the VEPR NGCS it is becoming pretty damn apparant we're about to go broke... Therefore, we are purchasing one RAR-7S due to budget restraints and will be used to assassinate the Minister of Finances, Minister of Budget Restraints, and that damn protestor who continuously stands in front of the capitol demanding that we end our military spending, in that order. Thank you."

Official Reply:

Yikes, I feel sorry for them, not our problem. Sold, enjoy the gun!
Ministry of Commerce

Official Communique

We would like to order one of each varient for comparison to our M27A1. Funds wired on confirmation.

Official Communique

We would like to order one of each varient for comparison to our M27A1. Funds wired on confirmation.


Offical Reply:

They will be sent. Enjoy.
Ministry of Commerce

((OOC: I'm working on the SAW version!))

Bump, added a SAW variant.

I will add the heavy sniper and heavy MG version tommorow. Maybe a shotgun variant, I dunno...

We would like to purchase one of each unit to place in the Halladi Military Antiquities Museum.

The Commissariat of War
The Workers' State of Hallad

Sold!

We'd like 20,000 RAR-7Cs for the Marines and 2,000 RAR-7Ss, and will wire the funding on confirmation.

Official Statement from The International Confederacy of The Island of Rose:

The RAR-7Cs and RAR-7Ss will be built and shipped to you, the money has been received. We hope that you enjoy these weapons and that they may save a Marine's life one day.
Nikolai Geoff
Rosian Minister of Commerce (http://www.ssinf.sv.gov.yu/face/amirn2.jpg)
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Bump, will add another variant soon.

Kriegorgrad would be very interested in procuring 100,000 of the RAR-7M Squad Assault Weapon, I am sorry for the short letter concerning such a huge amount of weaponry but I must keep this brief, my duties drag me away.

100 RAR-7M Squad Assault Weapons = 165,000,000

The money has been wired via a secure connection and we hope to receive our top notch weapons soon.

And as a final note, my master has told me to ask you about the slim possibility of production rights, we would be glad to accept any terms you require for these production rights.

Thank you for your time.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

Official Statement from The International Confederation of The Island of Rose:

First of all we are honored that ordered our guns at all. Second, we are honored again that you want production rights. We were going to announce that special production rights were for sell, and this is the best time. You are allowed to have the production rights but you must pay 10% of the amount of money this gun takes to build. In your case, this is 165$ a gun. Do you accept?
Nikolai Geoff
Rosian Minister of Commerce (http://www.ssinf.sv.gov.yu/face/amirn2.jpg)
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OOC: Bollocks, I logged in as Zakia, my FT puppet, sorry about this TIOR.

IC: We are deeply glad that the Island of Rose and Kriegorgrad were able to engage in productive trade, we are even more glad that we are allowed to manufacture the high quality weapons for the small price of a 10% royalty, we thank you for this excellent and reasonable offer.

Thank you for your time.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

OOC: Bollocks, I logged in as Zakia, my FT puppet, sorry about this TIOR.

IC: We are deeply glad that the Island of Rose and Kriegorgrad were able to engage in productive trade, we are even more glad that we are allowed to manufacture the high quality weapons for the small price of a 10% royalty, we thank you for this excellent and reasonable offer.

Thank you for your time.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

And no, you can't sell them. That will lead to bad things.
Ministry of Commerce

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The Soviet Government will one RAR-7S (Sniper) as a gift to our Premier Alexander Stukov.
The Price is 1,700$

The Soviet Government will one RAR-7S (Sniper) as a gift to our Premier Alexander Stukov.
The Price is 1,700$

Official Reply:

Sold.
Ministry of Commerce

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