NationStates Jolt Archive


WTO Embargoes Against the RWC

Ramissle
17-12-2004, 01:49
OOC: THIS THREAD TITLE HAS NO MEANING! THE WTO HAS REPEALED THE EMBARGO, RAMISSLE STILL USES IT!
Bob Nyquilin walked up to a podium, in the huge WTO building int the middle of the International Trade Center. He began to speak.
"My fellow WTO board members, I have the emmense pleasure to announce that due to new WTO rulings, embargoes may now be placed on RWC members. Members of this allience are terrorists, and dictators. They threaten to drastically change the economic structure of this organization, as well as the world. I hereby let any WTO member seize control of, pirate, and sink RWC crafts in their respective territorial waters. RWC vessels may not use the Red-Nile Canal, or operate in Ramisslian waters. I urge other World Trade Organization members to do the same in there waters. Thank you."
Following his short speach, Bob left the podium, and let his advisor Damian Frost answer any questions the media may have.

OOC: If there are any RWC members withen the WTO, consider your self released from our care. (Thats you Drum Gods)
If any are wondering why, my nation has much stronger ties to the CFA and NWO than the WTO, even though we founded it.
The Great Sixth Reich
17-12-2004, 02:10
OOC: Can we be another exception tommarow because I'll be resigning from the RWC tommarow? (IDF agreed to drop his blockade when I leave, so I figured you guys would also agree)
Whittier-
17-12-2004, 02:14
Whittier supports the WTO's stance with the exception of piracy. We condemn all piracy on the high seas regardless of who the target is.
Zarbia
17-12-2004, 02:23
Zarbia would like to know the reasoning behind this decision. A sinking of any RWC ship is grounds for war, and may lead to further conflict. We warn you now.
Communist Louisiana
17-12-2004, 02:24
Communist Louisiana supports the WTO in taking this diplomatic sanction on RWC.
The Island of Rose
17-12-2004, 02:27
Obviously we support the World Trade Organization due to the fact that we are at war with some RWC nations. But we will not participate, for now.
Wirraway
17-12-2004, 02:27
The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway is shocked and disgusted by this ruling, we ask what the RWC has done to deserve this....actually we could care less what your "WTO" rules or does.

Our navy is sufficient to protect our assets, besides do you really think that you can delcare war on the entire RWC and win? This is in essence what you are doing. By threatening our trade you are playing with our nations existence something we will not stand for.

We would urge yo to back down but frankly the weight that the WTO throws in the economic realm is to small to warrant such a request. Do what you wish but touch our ships and the consequences will be severe.
Kyanges
17-12-2004, 02:28
The R.O.K. has recieved the notice by Ramissile, and will implement its suggestion due to its position in the WTO.
As such, all elements of the R.O.K. military have now been authorized to fire upon any RWC ship with out warning if it breaches R.O.K. controlled territorial waters.

OOC:

Now this is one of the many reasons I don't join many alliances... <_<
Dr_Twist
17-12-2004, 05:32
The Dr_Twist Congratulates the WTO on there Position with the Rouge Alliance Called Right Wing Collective. As such Ramissle is a NWO member an Attack on Ramissle would be a Declaration of War upon NWO.

TAG.
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 20:55
OOC:
TGSR, sure. Seeing as your quitting, I do not see why not.

Whittier, I do not see the point of simply destroying vessels of the RWC. Is it so bad to take what is left behind?

Zarbia, the point is that we don't want RWC members to have access to the Mediterranian, specifically Drum Gods and Aust, who invaded Sicily for no reason. There actions have made it clear that the RWC is bad, and something must be done.

Wirraway, that should explain the reason to you also. And, I can also defend my self. Stay out of the Red Sea and the Nile and there will not be any problems.

And as for what Dr. Twist said, I am pretty sure the CFA wouldn't be to happy if I was attacked either.
Grays Hill
18-12-2004, 21:10
Yet again, someone who thinks that sanctions will hurt the RWC *rolls eyes*
Red Tide2
18-12-2004, 21:14
Official Reply From Red Tide
"May I remind you what number 1 on the WTO charter states? It says(and I qoute):

All members shall not participate in anti-business policies, such as, but not limited to:
Blockading, Embargos, Trade Ship sinking, and Economic Warfare

There fore what you are doing is against the WTO charter and should be considered hypocritical."
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 21:15
OOC:
It's not a sanction. It is an embargo. Learn the difference.
RedTide, did you see the ruling results? I did not change the charter on the Members list because Kyanges may run it soon, but the charter was changed.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381638
Red Tide2
18-12-2004, 21:20
OOC:My mouth just hit the floor, but... the council never voted on this issue.
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 21:40
Thats because there is no council yet. And by voting for designations of free trade zones, it made it imparitive that we add unless allowed designated by council or WTO. As for this ruling, I was exercising my right as founder. This is my last ruling, as I am ready to hand over the WTO to some one new.
Samtonia
18-12-2004, 21:49
Zarbia would like to know the reasoning behind this decision. A sinking of any RWC ship is grounds for war, and may lead to further conflict. We warn you now.
[OOC- Hey. I though t you said you wouldn't be able to go on NS for a while. Exams or something of the sort. Oh well. Now that we know you're back on, myself, Pantera, and AMF can move away from our next destination and back to your waters.]
[IC-] Bravo. We support the WTO's actions in this regard.

It is up to sane nations everywhere to contain and eradicate the threat presented by the unbalanced rogue nations making up the RWC. It appears the International Community is already moving to contain the threat and it appears that Berimstone is taking care of the etradication.

Excellent. May a new sense of peace and trade descend between Samtonia and all members of the WTO.

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/2360/CarlVanderhovenMinisterofEconomics.jpg
Carl Vanderhoven, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Huzen Hagen
18-12-2004, 22:01
*checks clipboard*

It appears that we export nothing to you or any of the WTO for that matter. We also ote with interest that an organistaion that seems to think that it wants to encourage trade is placing pointless embargos on natios that would provide a huge market for your native businesses. Well done you, the leader of a organisation solely for promoting the wealth of its memebrs has:
- placed war like sanctions on a massive market (we are all highly capatalist)
- done so for purly political (you havent thought this through have you?) reasons
- damaged the economy of your own country further by reducing the market for which your companys can trade in.

i applaud you sir

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/huzenhagen/baldrick.jpg

Baldrick
Minister of cunning
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 22:04
"Thank You for noticing."
President Statton, Commander in Cheif of The Incorperation of Ramissle.

OOC: Actually, I don't have any trade to RWC nations. And the CFA played a big role in this. What can I say, I answer to a higher authority. ;)
Iuthia
18-12-2004, 22:07
Don't forget that by also ignoring your market they have missed an opportunity to trade with people who have been embargoed by so many and will be prepared to pay a little bit more for anything they can't get hold of as a result of it...

Though that said, one really has to wonder what effect an embargo has in the world when there are over 120'000 nations to trade with. Probably a loss so insignificant it would only effect you if you were counting the pennies.
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 22:13
OOC: For your first part of what you said, I trade mostly with Samtonia, Blacktower, and Kyanges. Thats about it. As for your second point, you are most certaily correct. The 49 nations that make up the RWC are insignifigant compared to the number elseware.
Praetonia
18-12-2004, 22:15
OOC: LMAO!! An organisation dedicated to free trade has placed an embargo! Classic, truely classic.

Ok... that was a little exaggerated, but it is kinda stupid.
Ramissle
18-12-2004, 22:20
OOC: Again, secretly this decision was made because of the NWO/CFA. Plus, this came because I added something to the charter that makes this possible. Call it a pre-emptive embargo. It was going to happen some time soon.
And it is kind of funny now that I think about it.
Dumpsterdam
18-12-2004, 22:22
To: All Dumpsterdanian Wolfpacks.

ENCRYPTION: RERANDERAS.

Ships flying the Ramisslian or Kyangian flag are considered free game, permission to fire has been granted to all submarine and Revenant commanders.
Bonstock
19-12-2004, 03:00
The Federal Republic of Bonstock, a member of the RWC, sees this as blantant warmongering on the part of the WTO. Bonstocknian ships will continue to trade as they please. Any impediment will lead to declaration of war.

The Federal Republic of Bonstock reminds all WTO members that not all RWC members are imperialist right-wing dictatorships. Bonstock is a democracy, if somewhat strict, and has a moderate government, with some liberal tendancies in fact. We are not the Nazis and fascists others make us out to be. Consider that when you blockade or embargo us.
Lachenburg
19-12-2004, 03:39
Liting another cigar, Direktor of Defense Ludwig Bach took another glance at the manila folder, lying on his desk. It seems as if we've been dragged into another mess. Oh well, we must support are allies. As these thoughts rolled through his head, the Direktor began to type his statment:

To: our allies at the WTO

Due to the recent hostilities against the RWC, we have decided to honor our alliance and help blockade the
ports of this new found enemy.

Over the next 2 weeks (NS time) we will deploy elements
of our first fleet, to aid in this profund cause. Furthermore, the allies of Lachenburg (Saint Beutoceilli and San Lucia) have agreed to aid this cause and are now deploying their fleets.

We hope that this conflict may be solved as soon as possible, so that our nations may continue to prosper.

Ludwig Bach
Direktor of Defense
Confederacy of Lachenburg

Slumping back in his chair, Ludwig closed his eyes for a brief moment and cleared his thoughts.

Why do I always half to make the tough decisions.
The Great Sixth Reich
19-12-2004, 03:48
OOC:

But that doesn't make any sense. You're five times smaller than all RWC members that you are "blockading", so you'll get blown out of the water.

Did you mean "embargo" instead of "blockade"?
Bonstock
19-12-2004, 04:02
Twenty four CVX aircraft carriers, loaded each with 60 F-35Cs and backed up each with 6 destroyers and two submarines, form up to halt any attempt at blockading Bonstock. Bonstocknian oil tankers and container ships form into convoys of nearly sixty ships, each escorted by a carrier battle group.

A message is sent out to all WTO nations. "Any WTO ship caught stopping a Bonstocknian ship on the high-seas will be destroyed by the Bonstocknian navy."
The Parthians
19-12-2004, 10:12
The nation of Parthia, though part of the RWC, has no connections to any wars currently overwhelming the RWC and NWO. As a non-involved nation, we expect that the WTO will not be so foolish as to sink Parthian vessels. We are not intending to get involved in any present conflict and would like our state of neutrality to be respected. Please do not force us to take further measures by sinking Parthian vessels.

-Shah Khosru III
Dr_Twist
19-12-2004, 10:25
Every time I read a thread lately when a Nation or Nations begin Embargos on RWC nations, they seem to conclude that the Embargo is actually a Blockade of that Nation, as such if RWC members bothered to do some research, all theses nations they have done is exercise there National rights to close all trade with a group of Nations. There is no where any where that states this is Illegal.
Dumpsterdam
19-12-2004, 10:56
Every time I read a thread lately when a Nation or Nations begin Embargos on RWC nations, they seem to conclude that the Embargo is actually a Blockade of that Nation, as such if RWC members bothered to do some research, all theses nations they have done is exercise there National rights to close all trade with a group of Nations. There is no where any where that states this is Illegal.

OoC: This sounds pretty illegal to me.

I hereby let any WTO member seize control of, pirate, and sink RWC crafts around the world.
Dr_Twist
19-12-2004, 11:09
OoC: This sounds pretty illegal to me.

I was stating in reference to the Embargo itself, i never Stated anything about this at all. From what i see it is a Threat, and a stupid threat at that. However i suggest both sides not to shoot, as it will only lead to violence.
Huzen Hagen
19-12-2004, 11:12
I was stating in reference to the Embargo itself, i never Stated anything about this at all. From what i see it is a Threat, and a stupid threat at that. However i suggest both sides not to shoot, as it will only lead to violence.

Erm, they have openly stated that tghey will destroy our nations ships thats what our members are reacting too. Anyway shooting is generally classified as violence
The Merchant Guilds
19-12-2004, 11:43
Liting another cigar, Direktor of Defense Ludwig Bach took another glance at the manila folder, lying on his desk. It seems as if we've been dragged into another mess. Oh well, we must support are allies. As these thoughts rolled through his head, the Direktor began to type his statment:

To: our allies at the WTO

Due to the recent hostilities against the RWC, we have decided to honor our alliance and help blockade the
ports of this new found enemy.

Over the next 2 weeks (NS time) we will deploy elements
of our first fleet, to aid in this profund cause. Furthermore, the allies of Lachenburg (Saint Beutoceilli and San Lucia) have agreed to aid this cause and are now deploying their fleets.

We hope that this conflict may be solved as soon as possible, so that our nations may continue to prosper.

Ludwig Bach
Direktor of Defense
Confederacy of Lachenburg

Slumping back in his chair, Ludwig closed his eyes for a brief moment and cleared his thoughts.

Why do I always half to make the tough decisions.

OOC: Most of us are 1-4 billion... your 32 million? You're going to stop us??? or more importantly i would ask how?

Oh btw, since when has a trade organisation been able to say... 'Hey everybody you can sink another alliances ships because the leader has a personal agenda'...? It's rather a strange action...(no offence though)

IC:

We condemn this laughable action by a non-entity in the alliance world, that is simply acting as puppet for the NWO. We do not recognise this organisation's right to breach international law by allowing piracy to occur on the high seas. Thus in our view all members conducting such operations will be deemed pirates and will suffer the fate of such criminals.

Regards,

The Shadows,
Praetonia
19-12-2004, 13:43
Official Statement, Imperial Government

The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia looks on at the actions of the World Trade Organisation with barely supressed laughter. We see an organisation dedicated to free trade and nothing more not only making bold and opinionated political statements but betraying and undermining its original purpose to promote free trade by removing restrictions upon said trade. There is no way in which the Democratic Imperium, having seen the events that are unfolding as regards to the WTO, has pledged never to join this idiotic organisation, and urges current members to leave.
Kriegorgrad
19-12-2004, 14:39
While it is hard for one to see past the ironic humour of that actions that the NTO has undertaken, I must point out one thing: if a Kriegos ship sinks anywhere NEAR your waters, consider it an act of war against Kriegorgrad, we will not be hesitant to respond with extreme force.

Sorry, this may be too hard for your stunted brain to understand, let me put it simply.

If a Kriegos ship sinks, we will:

1-) Annex Ramissle

2-) Burn down all major cities and food distribution centres

3-) Dump nuclear waste in your arable land.

4-) Kill your men, women and children

5-) Leave and go home for a pint in Kriegorgrad

I suggest you leave Kriegos shipping alone.

Yours with contempt,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome
Ramissle
19-12-2004, 19:23
IC:
"Merry Christmas to you too."
President Statton

OOC: This is in retaliation to the invasion of Sicily by Aust and Drum Gods. Also, in the quote about pirating, sinking, and the like, that should be "in their territoral waters." Mistake on my part.
Kriegorgrad, why would I sink a ship of yours. According to your signiture, you are a member of the NWO.

As for the ironic humor, the real WTO regulates trade between its members and settles disputes.

The Merchant Guilds , its a secret personal agenda.
AfrikaZkorps
19-12-2004, 19:43
OOC: Why do you have to take the whole bunch with you, just embargo Aust and Drum Gods, it is that simple. Either way I have a problem with this.

IC:

If any harm is done to any, and we mean any, Afrikaan Merchant Shipping[AMS] ships, we will counter such an event by a full scale Naval Build up. As you may know the Afrikaan Naval Forces have the right to sink any ships that fire upon the AMS ships they may be escorting. We expect our ships to have a safe visit into the world.

Minister of Defence >> Naval Ministry >> Hines Kaneiz
Praetonia
19-12-2004, 19:46
OOC: That's the whole point, Ramissle. Do you run the WTO, or do you rule it? I think your members should think about that.
Ramissle
19-12-2004, 19:52
OOC: I rule it with an Iron Fist.
No, j/k.
But soon Kyanges will be the one to make the decisions, as I am stepping down. This has abosolutly nothing to do with the flak from this, simply I feel it is someone elses turn to run it.
AfrikaZCorps, I see the RWC as a threat to both the shipping industry of all. We hope our loyal members see that as well.
Dumpsterdam
19-12-2004, 20:14
I see the RWC as a threat to both the shipping industry of all. We hope our loyal members see that as well.

OoC: As before, before spewing OoC B/S, provide evidence, otherwise you'll be finding yourself on the recieving end of something rather large and nasty traveling at 7000 km/h.
Kriegorgrad
19-12-2004, 20:23
Kriegorgrad, while a member of the NWO, is also a member of the RWC, that is the reason we think that you may attack or sink Kriegos shipping.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome
Drum Gods
19-12-2004, 20:24
Official Communique from the Imperial Senate:

It saddens us to see the nation of Ramissle using an otherwise useful alliance for its own personal interests. We will use whatever waters we see fit and so advise the nations of the WTO to consider their actions carefully before implementing any actions. Any infringement on our vessels movement will be dealt with accordingly.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
Belem
19-12-2004, 21:21
Let it be known that as of today the Holy Imperial Empire of Belem declares that the nation of Ramissle is a rogue nation. Therefore all trade has been cut with said nation, all Ramisslean accounts within Belem have been frozen and any Ramisslean citizens currently in Belem will detained indefinately charged with being Terrorists against the Empire and the people of Belem.

It should also be noted that if one ship flying the Belem flag is fired upon by a WTO ship, Ramissle will cease to exist within a week.

This has been fair warning.


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As of now an Imperial fleet(consisting of over 160 ships) is being deployed to a position 30 miles off the Ramisslean coast.
Wirraway
19-12-2004, 23:12
Let it be known that as of today the Holy Imperial Empire of Belem declares that the nation of Ramissle is a rogue nation. Therefore all trade has been cut with said nation, all Ramisslean accounts within Belem have been frozen and any Ramisslean citizens currently in Belem will detained indefinately charged with being Terrorists against the Empire and the people of Belem.

It should also be noted that if one ship flying the Belem flag is fired upon by a WTO ship, Ramissle will cease to exist within a week.

This has been fair warning.


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As of now an Imperial fleet(consisting of over 160 ships) is being deployed to a position 30 miles off the Ramisslean coast.


The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway seconds what has been said by Belem and feels that nothing further must be stated. You have been warned.
Drum Gods
19-12-2004, 23:18
I shall make it clear. It has been over a generation since the full force of our might has beel felt by a single nation. Do not invite us to move from our path of status quo. You will be sorry. The waters you speak of are well within our reach.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
Lachenburg
19-12-2004, 23:39
OCC: Darn it, I guess I picked the wrong alliance at the wrong time. :(


ICC:

Sitting down to enjoy a nice plate of Pasta and Beef, Ludwig Bach had thought that today had gone pretty well.

They installed the new server that made thins much faster, fired that one guy who had a lisp and now he had the pleasure of enjoying a nice heaping plate of pasta.

Just as he stuck his silver fork into the delicious meal, the door suddenly flew open and Grand Canton Conrad Von Eisengruf entered the room, his face a bright shade of red and his hands were clenched together into fists.

" WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!" Conrad shouted, Immediately silencing the dining area.

" Whh...at do you Mmmean, sir?" Ludwig replied, his voice quiet and shaken.

" WHY IN THE BLOODY HELL ARE WE TRYING TO EMBARGO THE RWC! ARE YOU INSANE!"

" Well...sirr, I thought we should have aided the WTO.."

" WTO!, WHO CARES ABOUT ALLIANCES! THE RWC IS 800 TIMES LARGER THAN WE ARE. WE'LL BE ANNIHILATED!"

" Err...But..um..."

" YOUR FIRED BACH! PICK UP YOUR THINGS AND LEAVE IN THE MORNING!"

Just before Ludwig could defend himself, the Canton grabbed his plate and tossed it across the room. Pasta and Beef covered the far wall of the room and Ludwig was now on the verge of tears.

" Y..Yes, Sir!"

With his immense anger starting to settle, Conrad turned around and left the room, leaving Ludwig by himself.

I guess today wasn't so good after all.


To: All Members of the RWC

Greetings,

The Confederacy of Lachenburg wishes to apologize for our recent military maneuvers against your great nations. One of my trusted associates made a crucial error in regarding your infinite strength and foolishly deployed our forces. I can assure you that this certain associate has been punished severely for his illogical thought processes.

Within the next 16 hours, all Lachenburgian ships on route to your nation will turn back and head for their designated ports.

He hope that your grand alliance will forgive our foolishness and disregard the matter.

Conrad Von Eisengruf
Grand Canton
Confederacy of Lachenburg
Ramissle
19-12-2004, 23:41
OOC: Lachenberg, you coward. I don't think anything will come of this unless we are fired upon first.

IC:
"As President of The Incorperation, I would like to assure all members of the RWC that no harm will come to them unless they are found withen Ramisslian Waters, which is 15 miles into the Red Sea or anywhere withen Ramissilian held Nile River, or if a Ramissilian Vessel is fired upon. With this said, Defence Group Beta and Gama will be deployed to the Red Sea. Red Sea Defence group, and RS Task Fleet Alpha and Beta are currently stationed there. Defence group Alpha and Delta will be deployed to the Nile River. Nile Defence group and RS task fleet Gamma are currently stationed there. The Incorperation assures the people of Ramissle as well as the world that these vessals will not fire unless fired upon. Thank you."

OOC:
Belem, OOCly I would like to know where you are deploying.
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:06
ooc: right off the red sea if thats where your country is located.


IC: The fleet positions its self off Ramisslean waters and begins deploying a fighter screen consisting of 160 fighters(Half Vampire Supremacy fighters and Half Tiger Shark Multirole.)

Following that the first of a dozen Belem merchant ships begin entering the Red Sea headed for ports and the Suez Canal.



OOC: the fleet has
4 Intrepid Carriers
4 Tracker ASW ships
4 Shield AA ships
4 Fiery Avenger Missile ships
20 Romulus Battleships
30 Legate battlecruisers
40 Vesuvius Frigates
60 Centurion Heavy Destroyers
20 Velite Attack subs.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 00:10
OOC: So no one gets confused about my fleet, this link leads to my Reference Thread. It is also in my signiture.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376710
Lachenburg
20-12-2004, 00:13
OOC: Lachenberg, you coward. I don't think anything will come of this unless we are fired upon first.

OCC:I may be cowardly, but at least my nation wont be destroyed (I hope).
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:17
Message to Lachenberg:

You have made a wise decision in this matter seperating your self from your foolish ally.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 00:18
OOC: There will always be a place for you here at the WTO, even after our misunderstandings.
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:21
The merchant ships enter Rammislean waters in an act of defiance against the Rammislea "mandate" as the battlefleet waits 30 miles behind.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 00:22
OOC: Your merchant ships got here that fast? Whatever, I'll deal with this later.
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:27
ooc: they were in the general area and followed the fleets deployment
Zarbia
20-12-2004, 00:38
OOC: Lachenberg, you coward.

Coming from the guy who can't think for himself and started this shit because Twist told him to.

Pfft.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 00:40
Admiral Preble stood in the bridge of the Difesa Suprema, a Hades class battleship. "E6" he said. The ensign on the other side of the table winced, and said "You sunk my battleship! You cheated! I know you did!" "Hey, theres a reason I am an admiral and you are an ensign." "Whatever."the ensign said. At that moment all sorts of alarms and buzzers went off. The ensign ran towerds a computer. "Sir! A Belem merchant ship is in our territorial waters. Shall I engage?" the ensign said. "No, hail the craft. Tell them we are not afraid to fire. If necessary, we will escort it out with our Dryad class gunboats." Preble said.

OOC: No one told me to. Especially not Twist.
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:45
Response to the fleet: We have been assigned this shipping route through the Red Sea and we will continue along the route assigned to us by the Office of Imperial Shipping.


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The fleet begins caculating targetting solutions against the Ramisslean fleet, waiting for them to fire the first shot against unarmed merchant ships.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 00:56
Admiral Preble got on the radio. "You are infringing on Ramissilian waters. As your nation has affiliations with the rouge allience the RWC, you are not allowed in our territorry. We have authorization to fire at your ships. Please leave the area or we will escort your ships out."
Admiral Preble had hes eyes on those Belem ships in the distance, he knew they wee up to something.
Belem
20-12-2004, 00:59
"Negative sir. According to recent Imperial decrees Ramisslean waters are not recognized by Belem as being soverign and Belem merchant shipping holds no duty to listen to Ramisslean naval or coast guard vessels."
Layarteb
20-12-2004, 01:05
Granted I may be an RWC member I have never threatened anyone outside of that alliance whatsoever. In fact I have no care what happens in the rest of the world. What does it matter what a country does within its borders, it isn't my business. However, if any Layartebian ship is sunk in international waters, our own waters, or any other waters without due provocation, which I assure you will not come from a merchant vessel, by WTO or its foolish leadership and alliances it will be an unprovoked act of war upon the Empire of Layarteb. At that point I will have no remorse to taint your water supplies and food supplies out of spite. After all such would be hypocrisy as it would be an act of everything you accuse ALL RWC members of, regardless of actually looking at each individual nation.
Belem
20-12-2004, 02:53
bump
Aust
20-12-2004, 10:30
OOC: Well i've destroyed you twice now, why shouldn't I do it again. I won't because this embargo dosn't affect me. :)

IC: Aust condemms this embargo.

Emporer Palpatine
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 12:58
The admiral hailed the merchant vessals again. "We are not afraid to fire. Leave the area now or have your burning shell towed away." That should take care of them. he thought. "Ensign, have 25 of our Dryad's from the Red Sea group escort the merchant ships. If they do not comply, prepare to board." Preble said. "Yes sir." he replied.
Bodastan
20-12-2004, 13:09
In the government house, Bodastan's diplomacy minister calls WTO's president or any other official, and tells them to lower the restrictions and let the trade go on, or Bodastan might join UN to help make resolution, or will hope, war does not start, quite some conflicts are in movement at the moment.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 13:20
OOC: Bodastan, this is already at a standoff. The only way this will end without war is if Belem gets his merchant ships off Ramissilan Territory.
Bodastan
20-12-2004, 13:22
ooc: yeah I know :) it's just a ... call? lol I didn't say it may end the war :)

IC: Also, defence minister Akhan Keinder calls general meeting about possible war, since a very... war-seeming conflict is occuring.
Vollmeria
20-12-2004, 14:31
"Our Emperor views your embargo as an act of aggression. The Empire does not threaten or attack other nations, yet the Ramisslians see us and our allies as the enemy... because two nations whom already left the RWC a while ago started a war nobody cares about.

The Emperor, who described the Ramisslians as "ridiculous fools" ordered the activation of two kriegsflotten, ready to support Belem should Ramissle dicide to fire upon unarmed Belem ships.

Any Ramisslianship entering Vollmerian waters will be sunk without warning. We will enforce this policy until Ramissle stops its acts of Aggression upon innocent nations and their unarmed merchantships. That is all."

Field Marshall Putnik
Praetonia
20-12-2004, 14:38
OOC: I think people need to work out some key terms which mean entirely different things but are being used almost interchangeably:

Embargo: An embargo is when a nation stops buying all of a certain good. For example "We have placed an embargo on all goods from RWC countries" "We have placed an embargo on all coffee goods". Thisis merely refusing to trade. There is NO military action involved and it's perfectly legal.

Blockade: A blockade is when you surround a port (or ports) with warships and turn back all traffic in and out. For example "Because you bombed me, I am going to blockade your ports with three hundred warships. All ships will be turned back if they attempt to enter or leave the port." This IS military action (sort of) and all sane nations would attempt to break the blockade with their own warships.

Denial of Passage: This is not a blockade or an embargo. This is merely when a nation does not allow certain shipping to pass through their waters. For example, "RWC nations are not allowed to send shipping through my waters." "Ships carrying drugs will not be allowed into our waters." This is perfectly legally, so long as it is only within their own waters, and although annoying, attempting run or break this kind of economic sanction would usually result in war with you as the agressor. It'll at least get the ships in question sunk or impounded.

IC:

Official Statement, Imperial Government

The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia condemns, in the strongest possible terms, the ill thought out and irresponsible war-mongering actions of Belem and The Drum Gods. Although it has been stupid and self-defeating, nothing illegal has been done or suggested by the WTO. An economic embargo is not illegal, nor is seizing ships within your own territorial waters. As for arresting innocent citizens and charging them as terrorists purely because they are Ramisslian is nothing less than despicable rascism. Consider all diplomatic ties that may or may not have existed severed.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 14:44
As Commander in Cheif of the Incorperation, I would like to thank Praetonia for their understanding of the rash actions of Belem.

President Statton
Belem
20-12-2004, 19:41
Message from the freighters: "Negative sir. We have a very defined transit route. We can not re route."


Message from the Imperial Fleet: "Attention Rammislean Naval Assets your ships are currently on course to deny movement to Belem freighters, be advised to change course, any disruption of Belem trade will be dealt with."
Praetonia
20-12-2004, 19:44
OOC: Ramissle, you could just let his ships in then refuse to trade with them. That would deal with the situation in a non-violent manner. I mean what's he going to do? Bomb you until you buy his goods? I dont think so. Although, considering his attempt to force passage through sovereign waters, he might.
Belem
20-12-2004, 20:00
ooc: I'm just passing through his waters to other countries ports in the red sea.
Guffingford
20-12-2004, 20:15
IC:
The Empire laughs.

This is perhaps the most laughable and ridiculous action from those mindless followers of the NWO and associated alliances. A free trade organization trying to harm the RWC with some petty sanctions? Even though we are not RWC members who find his highly amusing they are trying to do any damage to them.

We advice you to stop this madness and try to regain what little is left from your sane mind.

Joachim Rahm
- Leader of The Knights of the Iron Cross
Bodastan
20-12-2004, 21:24
Since we cannot trade normally, because their freighters may not get through your territorial waters, we advise not to shoot at their freighters and remove the passage denial. You may easily avoid conflict which may become violent this way.

We seek peaceful solution, but we will not tolerate attacking innocent ships, where also our workers may work.

Defence and minister Akhan Keinder of Bodastan.

In the meantime, Bodastan tries to "chill down" other countries too.
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 21:32
OOC: No Praetonia, if I let him through our waters what kind of example would that show? It would show the entire RWC that we are push overs. I'll be taking the most peaceful route possible.

IC:
Preble got on the radio again. "Attention Belem Naval Command. Your vessels are traveling in Ramissilian territory. We have given you ample warning. Your ships will be boarded. Do not attempt to intimidate us."
As he said this, the Dryad class gunboats headed towreds the merchant ships.

OOC: Don't worry. All I will be doing is taking them into custody and confiscating there goods.
Belem
20-12-2004, 22:27
"By Imperial Decree all naval vessels in the service of Rammislean are considered pirate ships and shall be treated as such due to the governments actions. Turn your ships back immediately."


The Freighters continue on there course.

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The Fighters flying on the perimeter of Rammislean water begain painting the Rammislean ships with radar locks as they drop down to the deck and continue strafing the border.
Generic empire
20-12-2004, 22:39
Official Imperial Statement

The Empire watches with dismay the fallout of the foolish actions of Ramissilia and the WTO leadership. While we trust that no Imperial vessels shall be subject to the measures taken by the WTO, as the areas in question are not currently destinations for Imperial trade flotillas, still the Empire will take measures to secure her fleets by way of armed escort. Any acts of piracy found to have been committed by WTO members on Imperial merchant marine or naval vessels will be considered acts of war, forcing an immediate and full Imperial military response. Good day.

Chancellor Dmitri Rubellai,
Appointed Chancellor of the Imperial Congress,
Loyal Servant to Emperor Antonius I
Ramissle
20-12-2004, 23:36
OOC:
Strafing the border? As in firing on The Incorperation? You have earned yourself a retaliation.
IC:
The ensign hung up. "Sir, that was the mayor of Port Ficali. Some Belem fighters have been spotted firing upon homes there. Ravens ready for dust off." he said. Preble sat for a moment. Weather he was deciding what to do about Belem or planing his next move in Battleship was unclear. "Alright, give Raven's permission to engage. Have the Dryads dock with the merchant ships."
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The Dryad class gunboat La Protezione Di Jester's pulled up next to one of the merchant ships. Four men went aboard, equiped with XM-8 Battle Rifles. They marched across the deck, and went inside the control room.

Meanwhile, twelve ravens took off. "Preparing to engage." one said. They headed into the night.
Belem
21-12-2004, 00:06
ooc: no they are just strafing along your ocean border as in flying very close to it.
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 00:14
OOC:
That is not the definition of strafing.
to rake (as ground troops) with fire at close range and especially with machine-gun fire from low-flying aircraft
That is what it means.
It'll just be an intellegence failure I guess.

IC: The ensign got a call again. "Hello? Are you sure? Ok, I will notify the Admiral." He hung up. "Admiral Preble, we seem to have had some intellegence problems. The Belem ships did not fire upon the shore. Actually, they were no where near it. The fighters are actually on our territorial waters." The admiral thought. "Ok, thats fine. We did not open fire on them, so nothing should come of this. We are protecting our national borders. Hail the fighters.
"Raven A to Belem Fighter group. You are dangerously close to illeagally operating militiary aircraft on Ramissilan territory."
Red Tide2
21-12-2004, 00:16
OOC:Hes not inside your terretorial waters.
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 00:32
OOC: I got to learn to not skim threads. I'll fix this tommorow.
Belem
21-12-2004, 02:57
The freighters continue steaming pulling away from the Dryads as they try to throw lines across to board.
Kyanges
21-12-2004, 03:09
To the soveriegn nation of Belem

We wish to inform you that the WTO is no longer under the leadership of Ramissile, and his actions towards you, agressive or other wise, no longer (And never really have) reflect the official position of the entire WTO.
our nation, the Republic of Kyanges now leads the WTO, and all agreesive positions taken by the WTO have been lifted.

From our new agenda

"...Finally, all current embargoes, blockades, or aggressive postions taken by the WTO to date will be lifted. All water ways, air and land routes should be areas of free trade and travel. As such, the R.O.K. military has been called down from its alert against RWC member nations, and they are once again permitted to enter Kyanges waters freely. We suggest all other nations who have such measures against the RWC to do the same."

Official hand over of power by Ramissile:
Ramissle Hands Over WTO Leadership (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=383007)

Thank you, and that is all.
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 03:37
IC:
As Member of the CFA and NWO, we will continue the Embargo.
President Statton
OOC:
Fixed the post. And Belem, at least let the first group get on the boat, as I already RPed it. It's not like a huge merchant ships going to pull away from a gunboat.
Belem
21-12-2004, 04:04
ooc: alright.

IC: As the the freighter gets boarded by the Rammislean ship the Captain and Bridge Crew immediately begin sending out distress and S.O.S. signals on all channels that they are being boarded by Ramisslean Pirates.

The fleet begins its pre defined plan against the two Ramisslean fleets. The fighter patrols tighten around the Imperial fleet as the first missiles begin launching from the missile ships. Over the next 5-10 minutes over 1,400 Javelin anti shipping missiles are launched by assorted ships in the fleet against the two Rammislean fleets. With each fleet being targetted with 700 Javelins in sea skim attack mode. The missiles head towards the two fleets at an altitude between 10-20 feet going Mach 3.(ooc: these would be very difficult for a Phalanix gun to shoot down)

The fleet begins steaming southwards out of the Red Sea to get into a more strategic position and to stay out of gun range.

Message to Ramisslean fleet: Attention Pirate Vessels performing illegal actions against Private Belem Merchant Shipping, surrender immediately or you shall suffer the same fate as your compatriots, Piracy is not tolerated by the Imperial Empire.


OOC: specs for Javelin Ship Launched missile.
Lenght: 20 feet
Range: 300 miles Seaskim 500-600(depending on weather conditions) high attack.
Speed: Mach 2.5-3.5 Seaskim Mach -45 Hight Altitude attack on final descent.
Warhead: 100 pound Silicone Composite explosive(4x more powerful then conventional explosives so its the equivelent of a 400 pound warhead.)
Dumpsterdam
21-12-2004, 10:21
To the soveriegn nation of Belem

We wish to inform you that the WTO is no longer under the leadership of Ramissile, and his actions towards you, agressive or other wise, no longer (And never really have) reflect the official position of the entire WTO.
our nation, the Republic of Kyanges now leads the WTO, and all agreesive positions taken by the WTO have been lifted.

From our new agenda

"...Finally, all current embargoes, blockades, or aggressive postions taken by the WTO to date will be lifted. All water ways, air and land routes should be areas of free trade and travel. As such, the R.O.K. military has been called down from its alert against RWC member nations, and they are once again permitted to enter Kyanges waters freely. We suggest all other nations who have such measures against the RWC to do the same."

Official hand over of power by Ramissile:
Ramissle Hands Over WTO Leadership (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=383007)

Thank you, and that is all.

Message Intercepted by Imperial Code Breakers.

Reply sent to Kyanges.

We are most pleased with your lifting of this embargo and other denials of passage. We will not remove our stance on the fact that Ramissile is a dangerous rouge nation but we will respect the WTO and its current leadership as a worthy alliance that does not stray of its choosen path because of personal gain.

7th Imperial Code Breaker, on behalf of the Dumpsterdanian Goverment.
The Parthians
21-12-2004, 10:32
Off the coast of Yemen, 0112 Hours:

The night watch was never fun, and being the communications officer made it many times worse. He was nearly asleep, and would have been long ago were it not for the coffee. Perhaps, he should doze off, he thought in his head. Suddenly, the comms light began to flash as a message was wizzed off the printer. "Reroute fleet to move through Rammslilian Territories in Red Sea after rendez-vous with merchant convoy. Do not follow orders of any sort given by them. If hostilities erupt, destroy them without remorse. He wired the navigation staff and within muinites, a new bearing was set. By tomorrow afternoon, they would be off the Rammsilian coast.
Bodastan
21-12-2004, 11:52
0200 hours: Shore, near a forest, Sergeant Kadar and his 9 other Bodariens are waiting for any time. They all see flashing from some possible fighting. Then they receive, suddenly, a distress call, from the Belem's freighter. Sergeant Kadar thinks "Alright, it might be our time.". Five minutes after, message from General Tuaco is received "Ramisslian "pirates" are boarding the Belem freighter. We must defend it. You can make it there with your BobCat APC. Proceed as planned." Commander of the APC calls up the group of Bodariens to board in, as APC team slowly takes them to destination of conflict, with stealth on for now.

Bodarien (Bodastan Elite soldier)'s equipment:

AK-105 ( http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka130.html )
A combat knife
MK23 Pistol ( http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg12-e.htm )
and night style uniform ( http://www.tombguard.org/1960sPFCuniform.jpg <--- though he doesn't have that kind of rifle)
Wolfish
21-12-2004, 15:34
The Ensign ripped the headset off his head and threw it on the floor – “JESUS H CHRIST! He hollered as the XO peaked his head into the sonar room.

“Conn-Sonar” he said regaining his composure.

“Go ahead Sonar.” replied the Captain – 10 feet away, but luckily out of visual range.

“Massive missile launch – bearing,” he checked his digital screen – “bearing 3-0-0 – I’m still counting but its over 500 launches.”

The Captain swore under his breath and checked the map. Wolfish FLASH intelligence this morning said that this was some sort of stand-off and likely wouldn’t come to blows. As his finger traced along the map towards the source of the sonar signature, he knew what he’d find – the mass of pins designating the Belemese fleet.

“COMMS – FLASH Traffic for Wolfish Naval Command.”

“AYE!”

“Advise Belem has engaged Ramissle. Executing plan “Clover Leaf”. Radio silence for next 48 hours.”

“Aye Captain – sending now.”

“Helm,” said the Captain – grabbing a cigarette out of his pocket, “Come to course 3-0-0. Depth 100 feet.”

“Alright – begin mine laying pattern Delta. We’re closing the Red Sea.”

The sub laid mine after mine – depleting its store of over 100 large anti-warship mines – filling the deep water channel across the Straight of Gubal.

It then turned back south and went silent waiting for the Belemese fleet to sail into its trap.
Dumpsterdam
21-12-2004, 16:11
Revenant Pack #23

"Sir, that contact is launching mines and alot of them too."

"Sonar, iden?"

Captain Homer asked as he quietly sat in his command chair.

"Wolfish sub, type not determined yet, alot of anti shipping mines closing off the red sea sir. Revenant one and two wish to know their current course of action."

Homer thought for a second.

"Sink it and notify the Belemese fleet."

OoC: Wolfish, if you have taken any counter measures please do tell but please no tech or large amounts of naval wanking.
Wolfish
21-12-2004, 17:45
Revenant Pack #23

"Sir, that contact is launching mines and alot of them too."

"Sonar, iden?"

Captain Homer asked as he quietly sat in his command chair.

"Wolfish sub, type not determined yet, alot of anti shipping mines closing off the red sea sir. Revenant one and two wish to know their current course of action."

Homer thought for a second.

"Sink it and notify the Belemese fleet."

OoC: Wolfish, if you have taken any counter measures please do tell but please no tech or large amounts of naval wanking.

ooc: When have I ever "wanked" anything. It is a solo Seawolf class attack sub. Very quiet and not moving much. I'll accept that you heard the laying of mines...though, depending on where you are - you might be on the other side of the new mine field from me. I'm south of it.

There is a Wolfish Battlegroup at the mouth of the Red Sea - too far away to assist the sub at this time.

At present, the sub is sitting in deep-ish water (given its the Red Sea) and not moving much - its going to be a bitch to pick up, particularly with the background noise Belem is causing.

Please give me the location and make up of your fleet.
Wolfish
21-12-2004, 18:02
ooc: You probably also have no way of knowing that its my boat (at least for now).
Dumpsterdam
21-12-2004, 18:21
ooc: You probably also have no way of knowing that its my boat (at least for now).

OoC: Sound database, we've praticly been at war with you during that embargo but it did allow us to identify some of your submarines.
Bodastan
21-12-2004, 19:37
ooc: Well anyways... Our APC (which can hover on the water, atleast so it says where I bought it) is about on the west of the mine field... IT can go 300 miles (435 kilometres or whatever) away...
APC is like this:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/IFVLch2.gif
Features
420hp Deisel Electric hybrid engine
25mm Chaingun firing FMJ Tracers, Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot or High-Explosive rounds
7.62mm M240 Machinegun
Double TOW-2 Anti-Tank Missile Launcher
Double FIM-92 Stinger Anti-Aircraft Launcher
NBC protection
Amphibous
band tracks for stealth
Specifications
Length:191.5"
Width: 105.75"
Height: 91.5"
Clearance: 16"
Weight, combat loaded: 27,580 lb. (12,329 kg)
Maximum weight: 31,500 lb. (14,061 kg)
Air drop weight: 22,428 lb. (10,037 kg)
Personnel capacity: 3 + 10
Fuel tank capacity: 95 gallons (360 liters)
Ground pressure: 8.63 psi (0.60 kg/cm2)
Performance
Speed on land: 50 mph
Speed in water, with track: 6 mph
Cruising range: 300 mi (483 km)
Turning radius: Pivot to infinite
Slope: 60%
Side slope: 40%
Trench crossing: 66 in. (168 cm)
Vertical wall climbing: 24 in. (61 cm)
Braking (20-0 mph): 40 ft.




IC: After about 50 minutes of going to where they received distress call, commander and driver, both, seen a mine.

"Stop!" Commander of APC yelled, "Mines spotted." and then he looks at Sergeant, saying: "We can try and turn around the minefield, it looks like there might be a bloody mess here soon, or we could get to that ships through, but it may be dangerous, we can also try to blow up the mines with our APC's 7.62mm M240 Machinegun. How do you think it would be faster for your team to get to any of ships?"

Sergeant Kadar becomes worried a bit, and starts thinking... They cannot get blown up, but they need to be fast... Then he says "We'll go around. We must be watchful, if you see any mine that could be harmful, destroy it, like you would in any case. We must go faster though."

"Alright," says Commander (and Ensign), Parlin by surname, "we will then.".

And so they left, both APC team and Bodarien team were worried...
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 19:59
IC: Ensign Lovell was watching the radar, while simultaniusly planning his next Battleships move. "Sir! Missles Inbound! Archer Class BAMD's ready to fire." "Fire Away! Ensign!" Preble said.
OOC:
Damage Reports Assuming 75% Success Rate of BAMD Crusiers:
1 Hades Class Supreme Battleship: 4 inch guns offline
1 Apocolypse class dreadnaught: Railguns offline
3 Dryad Class Gunboats: Sunk, Engine 1 offline, Sunk
6 Banshee Class Frigate: Sunk, sunk, sunk, lightly damaged, heavily damaged.
2 Hermes Class Destroyer: Sunk, lightly damaged.



This stuff is all in my signiture. And for the record, We have every right to take hold of any ship in our territory.

IC: "Sir! Retaliate?" "Yes, have the Ravens shoot down those planes. And as for the Fleet, launch the Tomohawks.
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"Wing Leader, you have permission to fire." Preble said. "Yes sir!" he replied. First they fired there 30 mm cannon, followed by the Aphid AA Missles.
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"Launch sequence 5...4...3....2...1. Tomohawks firing." Soon after he said this, 24 Tomohawks launched from an Apocolypse class dreadnaught. "Ensign, B7." Admiral said.
Red Tide2
21-12-2004, 20:03
OOC:A:there is no anti-missile system that can achieve a 75 percent success rate
B:You cannot state the enemies losses(like you did when you said you shot down his planes).
C:Your sending ONLY 24 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles towards a enemy fleet? Tomahawks are subsonic and very easy targets for Anti-Missile Systems.
Belem
21-12-2004, 20:30
ooc: ok first off your even if you shot down 75% of the missiles thats still 350 hitting your fleet. 350 missiles is going to do alot more damage then take 4 ships railguns offline.

Also regarding the fact that you intercepted the missile, im disputing the method in which you shot 75% of them down. A SM-3 Missile is a high altitude missile the missile would crash and burn if it tried to skim the ocean at 15 feet.

There are ways to shoot down vast quantities of missiles most of them rely on Lasers or Metal Storm systems but according to your reference thread you don't have any such systems.
Red Tide2
21-12-2004, 21:08
OOC:Another note to add is that you have RAILGUNS. Correct me if I am wrong but, only Future Tech nations have railguns.
Belem
21-12-2004, 21:10
ooc: railguns can be modern tech the new DDX destroyer features a railgun. But they aren't as good as they are made out to be basically because you can't put an explosive warhead in rail bolt because if you did it would explode as soon as you dropped it on the rail.
Wolfish
21-12-2004, 21:13
ooc: railguns can be modern tech the new DDX destroyer features a railgun. But they aren't as good as they are made out to be basically because you can't put an explosive warhead in rail bolt because if you did it would explode as soon as you dropped it on the rail.

ooc: They also basically burn out the rail after each couple of shots - so the maintanance level is incredible. If the rail gun works well then its FT - if it sucks then its MT.
Belem
21-12-2004, 21:22
ooc: They also basically burn out the rail after each couple of shots - so the maintanance level is incredible. If the rail gun works well then its FT - if it sucks then its MT.

ooc: that too. Supposedely the high quality railguns are only good for 150 shots before they are damaged and a quarter of that if they are rapidly fired. I know that the "homemade" ones that engineers in some colleges make for projects are only good for ten to thirty shots at most and about three if you are firing one shot after the other on full power.
Bodastan
21-12-2004, 21:30
ooc: Wouldn't it be more fun if we'd RP this out? :)

IC:

Even more of flashing is seen, maybe even ships and some strange rockets falling down.

"Battle is beginning..." said the APC's Commander. "Alright, let's go slower through the minefield then," Sergeant said, and continued, "Tell your gunner to shoot all the mines that are dangerous to us and clear the path. Driver needs to get us as fast as possible to the Belemian ship. Or to any other."

"Alright", the commander said and started to help the driver to navigate the APC through the minefield, some Bodariens helped gunners clear the mines through the minefield as they moved on.

"We must do this as silently as we can, we must not get spotted still." said Sergeant to the commander.

And so the APC came near the Balamian merchant ship after some time, yet unharmed, still in stealth mode...

"We'll send a transmittion soon.", said Enisgn. Sergeant: "Acknowledged."

...
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 21:39
OOC: Sorry about the crappy post, I made that during CAD at school. I'll fix it now. And as for the railguns, I didn't design it. Blacktower did. He designed just about everything.
And I did not say I shot down his planes. I said that they were to shoot them down. That is all. Reread that post.
Ramissle
21-12-2004, 21:53
As the Tomohawks fired, the Admiral sent a message to Fort Ginotapar in Port Ficali.
Warning! We are under attack. Ready all ground teams with the exception of Division Hydra, who are currently in Pantelleria fighting the Mafia. Mobilize all divisions.
Admiral Preble
As this happened, Preble authorized a submarine group to spearhead an attack on the Belem fleet. Ten Basilisk Class SSN's moved silently 200 feet under the surface.
Ramissle
22-12-2004, 01:48
To: The Republic of Kyanges, WTO Delegation
Although we would normally gladly accept any help the WTO, under the circumstances The Incorperation would appreciate that the World Trade Organization does not interfere any more. Thank You.
From: President Statton
Belem
22-12-2004, 02:43
ooc: Ill make an IC post tommorow. Im exhausted tonight.
The Parthians
22-12-2004, 02:52
The Parthian fleet and convoy were sitting only a mile outside Ramsillian territorial waters. Admiral Kurush Tehrani looked over the stats of his forces: 40 Arleigh Burke destroyers, 35 Ticonderoga crusiers, 25 Oliver Hazard Perry frigates, 7 Nimitz carriers, 8 Iowa battleships, 15 Seawolf submarines, and his flagship, Shahanshah Khosru III, a Gullien class superdreadnought. Twenty transports carried 10,000 marines and 150 M1-A2 tanks in case they needed to land in support of Belem. The civiliian ships were now breaking off to sail through Ottoman Khaif waters off the coast of Saudi Arabia, and protect them from Ramsillian attack.
Ramissle
22-12-2004, 03:02
OOC: For the last time, I will not attack unless you are in my territory. And, the only attack on Belem was retalitory, the merchant ships were boarded.
Bodastan
22-12-2004, 14:10
"Sir, Belemian ships are being boarded, cannot send transmission", said APC's commander. "Alright, war seems to have started due to all the firing and all. Let's secretly board on that Rasmisslian ship. Fast and silently. We will proceed to the captain and talk with them about all of this."

So, the hovering APC silently came to the boarding Rasmisslian ship, so the team of 10 Bodariens came on the ship secretly with their guns ready, headed towards the bridge in the shadows.
Ramissle
23-12-2004, 00:54
IC:
The La Protezione Di Jester's sat quietly under the fall of night. The soldiers aboard the Belemian ship had not returned, and the remaining 17 crew men were inside. While the captain and an ensign were looking over the statistics the admiral had sent them, the remaining crew (excluding the three on patrol.) had begun to play cards. "Ok, so you know that girl we met at the bar before we shoved off? Well, I got her phone number, and we went on a date. We got to her house, and she started to take off h-WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!" A loud gunshot went off.
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"Dude, we should be playing cards now. I know I could whoop Brad. You know he got that girls number. I cant believe it!" Nate said. "Shh, I hear something. Look! Are those men over there. Remember, captain gave us permission to fire. Something about embargoes and our rights and crap. There coming over here. Hide!" The three men dove next to some crates. "FIRE!" Nate said. He shot his pistol at the one in front, point blank range.

OOC: Remember, the guards are under the assumption these men are from Belem.
Belem
23-12-2004, 03:14
OOC: sorry it took so long for the IC post


IC: The fleets radar pick up the two dozen incoming missiles and Perimeter defense destroyers point Hotshot Lasers and Steel Wall Defenses at the bogeys. As the missiles entered Laser Range two destroyers directed there dual lasers at the missile mass, the second line of Defense Steel Wall guns continue tracking the missiles preparing to open fire should any escape the lasers. Due to the missiles slow speed the lasers make quick work of them as the fleet prepares for a second attack.



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The crews aboard the ships beginning reloading the missiles for a second attack against the remaining Rammislean ships as ASW choppers begin establishing a perimeter of sonar buoys around the fleet.

Three hundred Tomahawks from a dozen different ships are fired into the interior of Rammisle directed at key targets:

100 are targetted against Early Warning Radar sites
25 are targetted against powerplants
25 are targetted against your presidental palace and your parliamentary building
50 are targetted against key fuel depots.
100 are targetted against key infrastructure at military air fields.
Ramissle
23-12-2004, 04:01
President Statton was at home, still thinking about the fax he recieved earlier.
Direct Decendent of Rameses the Great, wow. I feel so honered. I will have to change my name. Yes, to Rameses The Thirteenth. I'll declare my self Pharoah! Yes! I will be The Pharoah of the Dynasty of Ramissle! Just as he thought that his advisor rushed into the room. "Sir, Belem has launched an attack on us. Tomahawks sir. Our radar is shot. We have to rely on ship based and AWACS now. Power is out in the ITC and Port Sudan. Parliment, though out of session, is gone. Same with the Presidential Building in Port Ficali. Fires have been reported at the pipeline at the ITC. The Brendon Statton Airbase has lost the airtower and Wings 23-25. I am sorry sir, but Port Ficali is essentially gone. Damn that Belem! Now I'll have to wait until Monday to be Pharoah! he thought. "Give Preble full control of the navy. Evacutate Port Sudan and the remainding populous of Port Ficali to the ITC. Turn on the ITC generators."
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Admiral Preble was in shock. He just lost a game of Battleship to his ensign! Well, then there was the whole "Belem just practically destroyed our infastructure" thing going on. But he didn't have to worry about that. Oh, wait, I do. he thought. "Ok Ensign, lets get Belem back for that attack. Fire the 16 inchers. The Five inch guns too. Along with that, Have the Krakens fire there missles, and the Minotaurs also. This is personal now. E14!!"
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All of the remaining Hades Battleships fired their guns. The Krakens and Minotaurs fired 12 and 64 missles respectivly.

OOC: I swear to god I said just twenty minutes or more ago I said in my 'Tomb Uncovered in Ramissle' thread that President Statton was in an unclosed location on the Red Sea. This would not be his Palace. His palace would have been in Port Ficali.

And RP about the merchant ships and airplanes! I have been waiting for you to say something about it!
If you don't remember, 35 Ravens went after your planes on the Territory border, and fired on them. Some men got onto a merchant ship and walked into the control room with XM-8 Battle rifles.
The Parthians
23-12-2004, 09:50
The Parthian fleet began to move in on Ramsillian waters. In front, the screen of Seawolf subs were running silent as they prepared coordinates for tomahawk launches fed to them from satellites. Behind them, the main fleet moved into the waters at 15 knots. The Ticonderoga crusisers and Arleigh Burke destroyers all had their Harpoon missiles prepared for launch at the Ramsillian fleet. Tomahawk batteries of the Iowas and Gulliens were being prepared for attack. From the carriers, 80 F-18s and 25 JSFs had been launched with 6 EA-6B Prowlers. If the Ramisillians opened fire or attempted to board, they would be destroyed.
Bodastan
23-12-2004, 09:55
As Rasmisslian soldiers started shooting on Bodarien team, sergeant gave his order very fast "Seek cover, now, go go go!", some found cover soon. "Damn, PFC Ardis got hit, sir. Oh, he's slowly coming here, should we fire back?" a private first class (PFC) Leren asked.

Sergeant Khanis thinks, and says, "Yeah, let's give him a covering fire.", and these two started to fire back where someone who spotted them was shooting from.

Soon Ardis came into cover. PFC's and Sergeants covering fire wasn't too long. "Ardis, you're a medic, bandage him," sergeant said, and over the comm, he told the other part of team: "We'll try to go in peacefully, if you loose contact, proceed with rescuing Belemian ships and turn them around.". then sergeant yelled to the unknown people firing "Hey, stop firing! We're not Belemian!"...
And they've waited for the answer with weapons ready to fire back if needed.
Wolfish
23-12-2004, 17:33
The Global Hawk circled easily in the thin atmosphere high above the Red Sea – its Infra Red, night-vision and standard cameras taking in the tactical situation 61,000 feet below.

At Niue Base, in the south pacific, a Lieutenant First Class was watching the feed.

“Sir – target mapping is complete. We have location, course and speed for the Parthian fleet. Showing about 136 ships – including 20 transports – 7 carriers – 8 battleships – 35 heavy cruisers and a superdread. Civilian ships that were part of the convoy are heading south towards our mine field.”

The Colonel watched as the centre display in the control room lit up with a map of the Red Sea – enemy ships clearly marked in red, while Wolfish and NWO assets were lit with blue.

“Alright – download this to Flight-Ops. I’ll head over for the briefing.”

Three hours later the Colonel finished briefing the bomber squadron – including the secondary strike teams located 2000 km away on carriers at the south end of the Red Sea. An hour after that, the strike force began its pre-flight and took to the air.

The 20 B-71 bombers [http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=368226&highlight=wolfish] pulled off the taxi-way, and double checked their mission briefs. It would almost be sunrise before they returned to this base – but it’d be worth it.

Major Tom Rand switched off the transponder and keyed his mic – Niue tower this is Raven requesting permission to take off and implement radio silence at altitude.”

“Raven and Raven Flight – you are cleared to FL100 [100,000 feet] and radio silence is authorized.”

The pilot made a final check of the instrument panel and pushed the throttle to max – the force of the lift off pushed him back into his seat as the plane quickly rocketed through 20-30-50 thousand feet – he leveled the craft slightly as it picked up speed and passed through the sound barrier for the first time – still climbing 65-80-90…100,000 feet – still accelerating past Mach 2 – Mach 3 – Mach 4.5 finally at level flight in the clear night atmosphere.

It didn’t take long to cross the Indian Ocean and sweep in over Ramisslian territory to approach the targeted Parthian fleet.

Rand checked the GPS – and confirmed that the data feed from the Global Hawk was still uploading information about the location, course and speed of the enemy ships.

“Raven to Flight,” he said opening communications for the first time in the trip, “Come to FL80, drop speed to Mach 2.5, and form up in deployment formation Bravo.”

The 20 Blackbird bombers cut speed and deployed airbrakes to slow enough to drop their bombload – they spread out across the sky – opening the bomb-bay doors – and waiting for the targeting computer to do the rest.

It seemed a painfully long time before the first bomb slid from its rack – but at 200 km from the fleet the attack was fully underway…each bomber dropping 4 AGM-154B Joint Standoff Weapons.

The flight crews were oblivious to the exact targeting programmed into each weapon, but, back at the Niue base weapons officers were tracking each powered smart bomb as it fell – checking off on their monitors that the targeting was correct – 2 JSOWs to each of the 20 transport ships carrying troops and supplied – 3 JSOWs to each of the Nimitz – 5 targetting just the Shahanshah Khosru – and 2 JSOWs targeted to 7 of the Ticonderoga cruisers.

The weapons officer prepared to conduct his damage estimate – noting that each AGM-154B was designed specifically to defeat hardened mobile targets like ships – they were incredibly difficult to stop with any known defence screen – and once near the target they would each deploy 24 submunitions / projectiles with high explosive shape charges that would cut through armour to detonate inside the bowels of the ship. [Technical details on the AGM-154B: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-154.htm]

That means that the flagship Shahanshah Khosru was going to have to deal with a maximum of 120 armour piercing projectiles ripping through its hull and exploding below decks.

That’d wreck your night, he thought as he watched the display as the bomber fleet banked to head back home.
The Parthians
24-12-2004, 02:50
Within milliseonds of the detection of a missile launch, a series of satellites above the earth came online and pinpointed the trajectory and targets of the JSOWs. Quickly, the information was sent to the targetting computers of the Parthian fleet. Within a second of detection, the entire fleet had their SAM batteries active and missiles prepared to fire. The flagship immediatley authorized firing sequence and 500 SM-2s were flying out of the launch tubes at the JSOWs. Point defence weapons had been activated and if the missiles had broken up into projectiles already they would be destroyed by weapons already in possesion of their exact trajectory. The screen was highly effective, though, not perfect. The point defence lasers and vulcan cannons of the Shahanshah Khosru were designed to destroy a barrage of fire directed against it, it was a target used to protect the entire fleet from attack and even a direct hit from heavy anti ship missiles in multiple spots couldn't sink it. None of the projectiles made it through the screen of defence to attempt a hit at its massive armor. The other vessels were not so fortunate, 3 Ticonderoga crusiers were down and sinking fast, and a transport carrying 500 men was blown into bits.

Within seconds it was realized, this minor intrusion could not be continued, a pull out to nonterritorial waters, only a mile a way, was needed. The remainder of the fleet put out and moved at flank speed into Ottoman waters off the coast of Arabia.
Ramissle
24-12-2004, 15:04
"You idiot!" Private Ryan said. He began to speak. "Your not Belem? What are you. Hold on, I will go get help from the rest." Nate ran into the cabin. "Sir, we have intruders. I shot one, but there not Belemian. I don't think they mean any harm." he said to the Captain. "Alright, you and Brad go get the leader. Ask him to come to the bridge un armed. As for the rest, ask them to disarm them selves." the Captain replied. Brad and Nate ran back to the group of intruders. "The captain wants your squad leader to come to him un armed. And he wants the rest of you to give us your weapons."
Ramissle
24-12-2004, 15:37
The Ten Basilisks still moved silently under the water. At ten knots, it would be suspected they would be unnoticiable. On the Re del Mare , Sub Commander Ron Banks stood at the helm. "Give me fireing solutions on those Missle ships." The solutions came to his screen. "Ok, Admiral gave us permssion to fire. Send a message to the other subs, give them our solutions. Fire Torpedo One!" A torpedo sped out of the first tube. A total of eight were fired, two to each missle cruiser. Commander Banks waited for the hits.
Wolfish
24-12-2004, 16:08
ooc: Parthians – that was only the first round – before you have a chance to pull back the second strike team will hit (they were mentioned in the previous post as the “second strike teams on the carriers”.

ic:

The AWAC operators watched as first the B-71s dropped their JSOWs – then as the Parthians lit up the skies with anti air missiles and point defense systems.

The commanding officer keyed his microphone, “Commence Operation Catch-22.”

He laid down the radio set and watched as 60 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters from 4 carriers moved into their strike pattern from their holding location – in packs of 3 they dove for the wave tops, and opened up the throttles, running over Mach 1.3 in their stealthy rush for the fleet.

As the last of the Parthians 500 SM-2s flew into the night sky chasing the Wolfish JSOWs the F-35s entered the “hot zone” where they could receive their final targeting instructions and the enemy could begin to trace them on radar.

Squadron leader Taulker keyed his mic – “Weapons FREE.”

With that the first two pilots of each group released a portion of their payloads – each firing two Harpoon (Block II) missiles – 40 missiles took to leading the pack of aircraft as they all continued on course for the enemy fleet. The missiles already beginning to home in on their designated targets, namely the troop transport ships – the lead pilot monitored the distance to the “picket line” – the line where the enemy ship formation began – at 50 km he keyed his microphone, “FOXFIRE,” he called as the third jet in each group released their payload – 1 HARM anti radar missiles each (20 total). [ooc: I can’t predict the targets for the HARMS – they’ll target whichever ship turns on its radar].

The flight watched as the 20 HARMS took off at high-speed right behind the 40 Harpoons. This would set up a uniquely difficult situation for the Parthian command – already light on Anti-Air SM-2s from the previous battle…they would have to decide whether they should turn on their radar systems, which would provide the HARMs with perfect targets – or leave the radar off and risk getting hit by 40 high-yield Harpoons.

The flight broke off their approach and moved to a defensive posture to engage any incoming fighter threats that may be launched against them as they withdrew back to their carriers.
Bodastan
24-12-2004, 20:20
2 Rasmisslian soldiers disappeared in the building, and soon came out, calling the Sergeant Khanis as leader inside. He quietly said over the radio, "3 of you, hide somewhere where they won't see you and keep your weapons ready, PFC Toler will lead you for now, if we don't get back or, eliminate captain and the main part of crew, or all of it possible, you'll have to use their weapons possibly to do that, and after that, rescue the Belem ship. If we survive, don't do that ofcourse. Others, give them your weapons. Me and private Arn will go to the captain.".

Then, answering the soldiers (Brad and Nate) "Alright, we're coming, don't fire," said Sergeant Khanis, lifting up his arms and the AK-105, all the other Bodarien squad following him and giving weapons to those privates. (Except for the "secret" part of the team, which hid somewhere behind.)

"That's all of us, soldier." said Khanis when they all gave weapons down, and he gived his weapon away with private Arn.
The Parthians
24-12-2004, 21:08
OOC: I had 80 F-18s in the air searching for just such a threat, how do you think you could have gotten in and fired without being engaged?
Belem
24-12-2004, 21:34
ooc: sorry for the inactivity guys, Christmas and all has cut down on my posting time. I'll try to make an IC post tonight.
Ramissle
24-12-2004, 21:49
OOC: Same here, except expect it late christmas night
Independent Hitmen
24-12-2004, 22:04
-tagged-
Belem
25-12-2004, 03:49
ooc: how many missiles did you launch at my fighters and what type at what range? because they are on cap over the fleet.

Due to the extreme range of the fleets (we are over 40 miles away 16 inch guns only have a 30 mile range) the 16 inch guns have no efect on the fleet.

Warning alarms go off on the ships as the torpedos are deteced in the water. The periemter ships begin deploying countermeasures against the torpedos in order to prevent them from getting to the center of the fleet where the missile ships are located. Due to range only 1 torpedo hits a destroyer ebcause it was in the path to a destroyer causing moderate damage to the ship.

ooc2: counter attack coming soon.
The Parthians
25-12-2004, 04:54
I'm gonna need to pull out of this RP. I'm leaving for Italy tomorrow and will be gone until January 3rd.
Ramissle
25-12-2004, 19:55
OOC: Belem, If you were reloading your missles, how could you be 40 miles away. It would be suspected, since you did not say you moved, that you are in the same position. And the Subs would be even closer. At max they would be 5 miles away. As for the missles I fired, 1024 were from Minataurs, and 456 from the Krakens.

Bodastan I have no time to right an IC post. I will later.

Have a good time in Italy Parthians.
Belem
26-12-2004, 06:13
ooc: my missiles have a range of 150 miles I posted that. and I was 30 miles out of your waters to begin with. Plus right after the missile launch i said the fleet started moving.
Wolfish
28-12-2004, 19:05
OOC: I had 80 F-18s in the air searching for just such a threat, how do you think you could have gotten in and fired without being engaged?

ooc: Hope Italy is great. Hope you'll come back to this RP.

As for the attack - I've never said that you wouldn't engage - I fully expected that you would. But to this point you hadn't posted anything about air patrols over your fleets, so I proceeded on that basis.

Things to consider though - my F35s are coming in very low and very fast - they are launching from well outside a typical patrol radius - and are considered a stealthy aircraft.

I'm willing to RP out engagement by your fighters - but I've got to argue the point that they'd have time to launch their missiles prior to your fighters arriving.
Ramissle
02-01-2005, 19:50
OOC: Belem, you said you were 30 miles off the coast, not the waters. Even if your ships are moving away, they would not be 30 miles away from my fleet. At the most they would be 20-25 miles away. The Subs would be even closer.
IC:
Nate lead the Bodastan Seargent inside to the captain. "Well, I see you are from Bodastan, so I am just going to cut to the chase. What are you doing on my boat?" Nate and Brad took the weapons into the storage room and began to strip and unload them.
Bodastan
03-01-2005, 19:11
"Yes, from Bodastan we are, sir, and our orders were and are that we try to stop this... madness, though we're quite late, but I believe we can use your radio and Belemian radio too, to contact your governments and to stop this war," sergeant said, and continued slowly, "If you will."
Ramissle
03-01-2005, 23:14
The captain sat in his chair and thought. "I'd better call command about this." he said. The captain got on the radio, and got on the line with Admiral Preble. They talked for a few minutes, mostly about where the Admiral should strike next in Battleship, and finally paused. "Seargent, the Admiral says that Belem was imposing on our waters, and had attacked us first. What is your reply. If you want, we can fly you to the Battleship where he is located so you may speak to him personally." the captain said.
Bodastan
04-01-2005, 12:14
As captain came to sergeant saying that, he though a bit, saying "Alright, we'll go there, sir, we could speak with him.", coldly.
He though to himself "I'll tell those 6 to wait over our comlink so..."
Ramissle
06-01-2005, 14:14
The captain nodded, and got back on the radio. "The Bodastan seargent wants to speak to you directly. Send an Osprey to pick this guy up."
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Thirty minutes later a V-22 arrived. Brad and Nate were sent to escort the man, and ushered him on board. They took off, and arrived at the ship Admiral Preble was located at. Nate told the seargent where the admiral was, and got back on the Osprey.

OoC:
Sorry for kind of controlling your guy there, it would take to long to RP back and forth this. So just start RPing at the Admirals door.
Bodastan
06-01-2005, 17:48
ooc: Heh, no problem at all. :)

IC:

On the flight, sergeant silently ordered the groups, which stayed behind, to refuel the APC.

As soon, as Sergeant has landed on the Admirals battleship (or whatever flagship it is), he was escorted to the Admiral's "office", and he knocked, and Admiral's voice said, "Yes, come in."...
Parish Hill
06-01-2005, 18:39
"Ok so your from Bodastan, is that correct? Well, we don't have much on file about you folks, but I'd like to hear something about you people. But anyways, your here to discuss the war with Belem. I can tell you right now, Belem started something. They directly ignored our orders to get out of our waters. Then, they attacked us. I think that is pretty good grounds for retaliation." Admiral Preble said.
EDIT: Wrong account. This is Ramissle.
Bodastan
07-01-2005, 13:33
"Correct that is, sir," sergeant said, continuing "Ah. So they've attacked you. Our mission was to try to stop any hostilities, but I guess we were quite too late. Hmmm since Belem has attacked you, maybe we can help you defend your waters, our usual fleet is currently on a mission, but we just got new ships, so... Those may come soon.". As the sergeant said it, he told to the Admiral to call government of Bodastan if Ramissle needs help, "though Belem was a Bodastan's economical "partner", but since they've attacked..."
Ramissle
07-01-2005, 13:38
Preble immediatly responded. "Alright, we will notify you if we need help. Take the Osprey back to the Gunboat. I'll notify the pilot that you are coming."
Bodastan
07-01-2005, 21:57
"alright." the sergeant said, and left to the pilot...

ooc: Major battle coming up I guess :)
Ramissle
09-01-2005, 21:33
Belem
Understand that I need to
Mega
Pwn you.
Belem
16-01-2005, 23:07
ooc: sorry forgot about this. I was really busy the last few weeks. IC post coming soon once I go through everything.
Belem
19-01-2005, 18:10
IC post coming tonight. Christmas break just ended and my posting schedule is all screwed up.
Belem
21-01-2005, 01:20
ooc: You didn't post what type of missiles were launched from the Krakens or Minotours, just that they were launched.
Ramissle
21-01-2005, 21:23
OOC: They were standerd missles. But, I'm kind of trying to completly move to MetaEarth, so you think we could end this dimplomatically?
Belem
22-01-2005, 01:31
sure
Ramissle
23-01-2005, 15:40
OOC:
I guess I'll just repeal the embargo. Is that good enough?
Belem
23-01-2005, 22:00
ooc: yeah