NationStates Jolt Archive

Are you tired of the thousands of left-wing nations and alliances attacking capitalism and conservatism?

Do you want to protect the morals of Nationstates from left-wingers?

Are you willing to defend other right-wing countries from the oppressive communist and socialist countries of the world?

Then join the Conservative Collective, an political and economic alliance!

The alliance's official region is the CDEA. No password required to get in. Join now!
Members:
Holy Paradise(Founding member)
Pacitalia
Roach-Busters
The Great Sixth Reich
Wirraway
Bittereinder
Popova
Canada
Nikolaos the Great
Setian-Sebeceans
Belem
Hoobajuia
Elsburytonia
Colerica
South Todeskopf
Red Tide2
Ancient and Holy Terra
Xeraph
Papal Order of Malta

OOC: You and I are on the same brain wave. ;)

IC: Pacitalia will be delighted to join our ally's budding alliance and hopes we can prevent it from becoming another you-know-what vs you-know-who.

RB would of course be delighted to join.

LOL, I just made a post two seconds ago saying I wished their was another Right-Wing alliance!

Count us in! (We just withdrew from RWC)

WTF...

Protect morals from left wingers? Who are you kidding? Right-wing corruption is what is destroying our world, not left-wing sensibility.

GET A BRAIN!

WTF...

Protect morals from left wingers? Who are you kidding? Right-wing corruption is what is destroying our world, not left-wing sensibility.

GET A BRAIN!

Stop acting like a n00b and get out. If you don't like the alliance, then leave! Don't spam up the thread for people who actually have something to say that's important!

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway will join in anticipation of the collapse of the RWC, but we'll hold on as long as we can.

This is looking like a good group already.

TGSR, me, HP and RB. ;)

My old nation was involved in an older conservative alliance, but that was back in 2003. Now I have a brand spankin' new nation, which also happens to be rather conservative. How fortunate.

Count me in.

I will join to uphold the ideas of capitalism. Count Popova in.

We're watching you little man.

(Tag)

The Federal Republic of Canada is a conservative nation that wishes to become apart of this Collective of Conservative nations.

Secretary Darren Temple, State Secretary
State Department, Federal Republic of Canada

Ah yes the glory of being a capatalist and a right-winger. Greece will be honored to join this right wing alliance, the Conservative Collective.
-Emperor Nikolaos

OOC: I won't be joining the alliance's region since I am a UN-Delegate in another region.

OOC: And the group gets even better! Jeez. This is like a fairy tale, the best of the best in alliances.

We would gladly join this coalition, and are willing to sign any compact required.

Your rash killing of all Muslims in your nation earlier this year bothered me. That may affect my relations with you. However, if you are accepted to the alliance, I won't hesitate to better our two nations' ties.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

OOC: Your signature code has a problem, if you didn't notice. You need a closing bracket on color=red.

OOC: I won't be joining the alliance's region since I am a UN-Delegate in another region.

What the heck? Are we on the same brain-wave tonight? I was going to say the same thing about my region!

Imperial Empire of Belem will join this organization.

"I find the enthusiasm of some of the 'right-wing' nations that are choosing to join this alliance rather heartwarming and wish them nothing but the best in destroying themselves in the greed and corruption that inevitably accompanies their tried-and-failed ideology. On behalf of the Socialist Empire of Edölia, I send my best wishes to you and your paranoid, delusional populaces."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Response to Matthew von Pickett, Minister of Foreign Affairs in Edölia

You and your people can believe in what you want to. We'll do the same in our nations. Happy holidays.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

"Have fun equally sharing your proverity!" -Ludo Hienkel, Chief Officer of Defense.

"I find the enthusiasm of some of the 'right-wing' nations that are choosing to join this alliance rather heartwarming and wish them nothing but the best in destroying themselves in the greed and corruption that inevitably accompanies their tried-and-failed ideology. On behalf of the Socialist Empire of Edölia, I send my best wishes to you and your paranoid, delusional populaces."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs


We shall look for you command bunker on the battlefeild, and when you are captured, and you will be, our people would love to see your end in the black depths of space.

Signed~~
Hericuli Maacon
Senior Commander of the Sebecean Independant Militia

Does this fledging alliance hold any requirements for admittance into their organization?

As an oligarchial theocratic monarchy, The Holy Empire of Hoobajuia, through the Divine Will of his Supreme Holiness, Emporer Hoobaju, explamplifies the ideas of political conserativism and righteous morality. We would be most interested in propagating our shared views across the world.

The United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia will watch over this alliance not out of plans of aggression or hate but out of concern for itself as well as allies.

We pray this alligning of nations is merely one for defense reasons and we also hope that nations within this alliance will be tolerant to those leaning more towards the left.

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(OOC: I love the pattern the Commie/Socialist vs Capitalist/Facist activies follow. Reminds me of the tides. Can't we all just get along?)

"I find the enthusiasm of some of the 'right-wing' nations that are choosing to join this alliance rather heartwarming and wish them nothing but the best in destroying themselves in the greed and corruption that inevitably accompanies their tried-and-failed ideology. On behalf of the Socialist Empire of Edölia, I send my best wishes to you and your paranoid, delusional populaces."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Yes and socialism has done so much good for the world:
- oppression of political beliefs
- mass genocide
- corruption
- dehumanization of individuals into mere numbers


Elsburytonia commits itself to the coalition of the willing right-wing nations.

We will not join your region, just at the moment, but we look forward to continued correspondence.

Yours with great enthusiasm

Emperor Andrew the First - Elburytonia

OOC: Hey, NSR, you and I are proudly allies, don't forget it. I totally get where you're coming from. I definitely don't mind left-wing alliances at all either. It's just annoying when we get called on making partnerships but left-wing nations can do it yell when they get called on it.

I don't know if that made sense...

The USSNSR would like to remind Elsburytonia that attrocities have been commited on both sides, not merely the left. Both sides have witnessed corruption, genocide, oppression of political beliefs (Certain right-leaning governments have been suppressing leftist movements and punishing participants) as well as at times religious beliefs, and other such things.

To blame crimes against men purely on political beliefs is similar to the stating that those of African origin were primitive and unable to comprehend the goings ons of 'civilized nations' within the 17th and 18th centuries. Instead we suggest you blame the men at the top, regardless of their political allignment/the typical allignment of the nation as a whole, for it is the darkness within them that cause such actions.

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(OOC: Not sure on what exactly you mean by 'partnerships' unless you mean these alliances.

Though speaking of alliances, I do oppose certain ones, or at this moment one: The WACL, of which youre a member of. Reasons being not the distaste of communist/socialist nations but the wishing to get involved in internal affairs and 'coordinate efforts to replace communist governments with non-communist governments')

The USSNSR would like to remind Elsburytonia that attrocities have been commited on both sides, not merely the left. Both sides have witnessed corruption, genocide, oppression of political beliefs (Certain right-leaning governments have been suppressing leftist movements and punishing participants) as well as at times religious beliefs, and other such things.

To blame crimes against men purely on political beliefs is similar to the stating that those of African origin were primitive and unable to comprehend the goings ons of 'civilized nations' within the 17th and 18th centuries. Instead we suggest you blame the men at the top, for it is the darkness within them that cause such actions.

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(OOC: Not sure on what exactly you mean by 'partnerships' unless you mean these alliances.

Though speaking of alliances, I do oppose certain ones, or at this moment one: The WACL, of which youre a member of. Reasons being not the distaste of communist/socialist nations but the wishing to get involved in internal affairs and 'coordinate efforts to replace communist governments with non-communist governments')

We have diplomatic and economic partnerships. Pacitalia is resigning from the Anti-Communist League. We feel the Conservative Collective is a mature, peaceful and positive replication of the RWC and the ACL. Therefore, I intend to shape the CC into an alliance that supports and upholds the beliefs of capitalism without threatening other nations. That is, unless they attack us first.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

The United Empire is more than happy to join....

Capitalism creates choice and hence freedom.

True Capitalist Liberal Democracies have developed greater freedom than any fabled Socialist Paradise ever could.

The Socialist Experiment is OVER!

Paris Commune FAILED
USSR FAILED
China, Vietnam - turning more capitalist with every breath
Cuba, basket case. Even I would turn to a truck inner tube and test fate in a vain attempt to reach Florida.
North Korea, Tree Bark soup, YUM!!!

RACK OFF LEFTY SCUM

This is a right wing thread.

The Constitutional Republic of Tekania, though Capitalist, disavows it's membership in the CDEA, as it has lost its direction and function since its inception.

While we shall remain Capitalist, and Libertine.... We will not stand by a hypocritical alliance, who claims "moral superiority" while blatantly accepting unethical and anti-libertine principles of monarchialism, racism, and bigotry...

The systems of the Constitutional Republic, will no longer recognize the existance of the CDEA.

We wish Pacitalia luck in its plans to help assure the Conservative Collective maintains an overall peaceful and tolerant state.

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(OOC: Umm...Els...the point of my argument was that not only left-leaning nations are those that are corrupt, not if a certain nation who chose leftist beliefs met success or failure. Course you can also be leftest without being someone who believes in hardcore Communism. Or so I think anyway. You should learn though to pay attention to the very argument/statement you made.

Also, to the 'RACK OFF LEFTY SCUM' and 'This is a right wing thread', I'd like it if you held a little more respect for your elders board wise/could tone down the assness. Note this board is open and public. Also note that this thread is, as it dare states in the title, 'open to all'. Not left. Not right. All. Both. In light of your already rubbing me the wrong with your second post, I'll be kind and not return any rude remarks.

NEO

Many thanks for your restraint.

Unfortunately my experience with “Leftist” people has not been positive in the past.

This has created a mad NATIONALIST, prepared to pick a fight.


Perhaps we will meet again. For now, Fair well. :D

Oh yay, another alliance to add to the destroy list.
*scribbles on notepad*

Good day to you sir.

Capitalism creates choice and hence freedom.

True Capitalist Liberal Democracies have developed greater freedom than any fabled Socialist Paradise ever could.

The Socialist Experiment is OVER!

Paris Commune FAILED
USSR FAILED
China, Vietnam - turning more capitalist with every breath
Cuba, basket case. Even I would turn to a truck inner tube and test fate in a vain attempt to reach Florida.
North Korea, Tree Bark soup, YUM!!!

RACK OFF LEFTY SCUM

This is a right wing thread.

Idiot. Get your stuff right. Cuba was rich, and Vietnam declared itself Capitalist a while ago. Maybe it's just 'coz your new, but in NS we don't relate to RL Events. Therefore, go to anyone in the world and say "you know North Korea?" They'll say they don't.

Official Response of the United States Government

The United States of Allanea will not join the CC at this moment, however, and whensoforth, we support the collective and it's aims. Congress has decided to donate a symbolic sum of ten million dollars to the Collective. Furthermore, we hereby condemn Mr. von Pickett's statement. He is apparently describing the populations of "right"-wing nations as "paranoid and delusoinal". This is an insult to the whole body the Allanean people. Further, The United States of Allanea is nowhere near destroying itself. Fact is, according to international experts we possess a higher GDP, more valuable currency, and an overall better economy.

We demand an immediate apology in the name of the Allanean people and all free peoples in the world.


OOC: "Maybe it's just 'coz your new, but in NS we don't relate to RL Events. Therefore, go to anyone in the world and say "you know North Korea?" They'll say they don't." - I do and so do many other players, note Menelmacar, NYNJ, CA&A, and many others.

OOC: Tag. I'm gonna watch this thread.

Count Vrath of South Todeskopf wishes to join.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=todeskopf

Official Statement from Red Tide
"We would be more than happy to join our fellow Nationalististic-Captilists in protecting right wing ideology."

OOC:I cant join the region because I have already joined the Imperial Confederacy.

The Republic of Ancient Terra will gladly join this alliance, as a counterbalance to the forces of socialism and communism springing up around the globe. We will assist others in upholding our capitalist ideals.

OOC:I cant join the region because I have already joined the Imperial Confederacy.

OOC: It wasn't necessary to join the IC's region. I'm the founder and I'm not even in it. And I have no plans of leaving my region, either. :)

OOC: "Maybe it's just 'coz your new, but in NS we don't relate to RL Events. Therefore, go to anyone in the world and say "you know North Korea?" They'll say they don't." - I do and so do many other players, note Menelmacar, NYNJ, CA&A, and many others.


Hmmm, interesting isn't it. You know, maybe I do remember you sinking into the sea.

Greetings from Xeraph!

Upon reading all the posts, we saw that many nations that are already allied with Xeraph, either directly or in composite alliances, are looking to join this Conservative Collective. While in principle we agree with the aims of conservatism, it has been our experience that conservative, i.e., right-wing ideologies have a tendency to over-step boundaries due to a sense of self-righteous, self-determination. In other words "we're right because we're Right-Wing". Which is all well and good if it serves a righteous (self or otherwise) purpose.
The present situation with the RWC (Right Wing Collective) in Europe is a prime example of a conservative entity running amok. Many nations have left this alliance, but many remain, and it appears that the situation is going to get very ugly.
I said all this to say that Xeraph would be honored to join this alliance, but I don't want to find myself fighting against any of my allies, old or new, if they come in on the side of the RWC. Or if any of the present members of the RWC join this alliance, then we have a problem.
If members of TCC can assure us that they will not side with RWC in the up-coming War, Xeraph will join. But we have tobe sure that we will not be ultimately fighting ourselves....

Alaric..Emperor of Xeraph
7th Lord of AXE
Councilor Prime of GAPTS
Master of the Knights Templar (EX)
Regent of TEOO

Idiot. Get your stuff right. Cuba was rich, and Vietnam declared itself Capitalist a while ago. Maybe it's just 'coz your new, but in NS we don't relate to RL Events. Therefore, go to anyone in the world and say "you know North Korea?" They'll say they don't.

OOC:

But your facts on Vietnam are off, and Cuba is also a little misleading:

Government type:
Communist state

Economy - Overview:
Since the Party elected new leadership in 2001, Vietnamese authorities have reaffirmed their commitment to economic liberalization and have moved to implement the structural reforms needed to modernize the economy and to produce more competitive, export-driven industries. The US-Vietnam Bilateral Trade Agreement entered into force near the end of 2001 and is expected to significantly increase Vietnam's exports to the US. The US is assisting Vietnam with implementing the legal and structural reforms called for in the agreement.

The country is now slowly recovering from a severe economic recession in 1990, following the withdrawal of former Soviet subsidies, worth $4 billion to $6 billion annually.

That shows that they were rich only when backed by USSR, and USSR's economy failed them, and caused cause Cuba's to fail...

But this is not about REAL Earth as you said before, so let's not carry this on, as this countries only exist as land on NS.

Why don't you all stop arguing?

Face it, you are never going to convince someone to change their political philosophy, especially when it is merely left vs. right.

So left-leaning nations, don't bother us if we want a collective, and right-leaning nations, don't bother them if they want a collective. Unless the collective is overtly military in nature, just leave it alone, it's not worth it.

OOC:

How about we just ignore any flame/spam posts in here by liberals so we can get down to business?

OOC:

How about we just ignore any flame/spam posts in here by liberals so we can get down to business?
OOC: Sounds good to me.

Alright liberals, the Conservative Collective is a defense and economic alliance, so socialist, Communist, and capitalist left wing nations, don't worry, we won't attack unless we feel its justified by a vote of alliance members.

Alright liberals, the Conservative Collective is a defense and economic alliance, so socialist, Communist, and capitalist left wing nations, don't worry, we won't attack unless we feel its justified by a vote of alliance members.

Too much reliance on 1-dimentional left-right view of governments...... Gives you poor perspective for viable operation. More or less, as I assumed, the CDEA has turned into a Monarchial Feudalistic organization operating contrary to the dictates of reason... Such can be expected for the CDEA to become a mirror image of the Anti-Capitalist alliance... differing in economic policy only.

Small minds..... small minds....

-snip of bs-

You might as well just put your foot in your mouth now and be done, since you were EVER so happy to join the CDEA when it was introduced.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

We are not going to be like some right-wing alliances, that force their beliefs on everyone. Rather, we shall protect conservative countries(unless they are slaughtering their people,then we shall fight them) and encouraging more moral practices and conservative policies on sociality and the economy to liberal countries, but not force them or bother them to do such. We are religious, but will not press religions on others. Oh, and Tekania, I am sorry to see that you resign from the CDEA, but, since that's what you feel is best for your country, then be my guest.

The Papal Order of Malta would be glad to lend a hand in upholding the values of capitalism.

We are not going to be like some right-wing alliances, that force their beliefs on everyone. Rather, we shall protect conservative countries(unless they are slaughtering their people,then we shall fight them) and encouraging more moral practices and conservative policies on sociality and the economy to liberal countries, but not force them or bother them to do such. We are religious, but will not press religions on others. Oh, and Tekania, I am sorry to see that you resign from the CDEA, but, since that's what you feel is best for your country, then be my guest.

Then we may be at peace with this alliance.

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At this time, the FRC will not be apart of the region but promises to be an active member of this alliance.

In order to better protect the high moral character of nations engaging in the same policies that we have at this time, the Free Republic of Iron Amerika does hereaby request entry into the Conservative Collective.

For too long have the morals, sound economic prinicples, and legislation passed by dutiful conservatives everywwhere been trampled upon by the wishy-washy policies of liberal do-gooders too concerned with oppressing the majority to help the minorities. No longer. It is the sound hope of IA that this alliance achieve all its goals, stay strong, and protect the one true way of life.

God bless,
Minister of Foreign Affairs Shawn Nostrich

Nikolaos The Great
Pimp

Anybody else find that funny about his Jolt title?

So.... Do we need a private forum yet?

WTF...

Protect morals from left wingers? Who are you kidding? Right-wing corruption is what is destroying our world, not left-wing sensibility.

GET A BRAIN!

"oooohhhhhh!!!!111111111 the scary corporations are gonna kill us all!!!1111111 bill gates is the antichrist!!!!!!!!111111111111"

well, anyway, The Empire of Jason would be glad to join the Conservative Collective.

By the way, something for conservative regions to check out is The CDA (short for "Conservative Defence Alliance").

to learn about the CDA, go to http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Conservative_Defence_Alliance

...sorry if I sounded like a commercial just then.

The nation of Southeast USA is interested in the Conservative Collective, asking it's members for help in defending the Confederacy from the West Pacifc invaders.

The nation of Southeast USA is interested in the Conservative Collective, asking it's members for help in defending the Confederacy from the West Pacifc invaders.

The Conservative Collective is a peaceful alliance. I don't think we can help unless they threaten us too.

We would be pleased if Parthia was permitted to enter the alliance.

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We need a forum or something...

We would be pleased if Parthia was permitted to enter the alliance.

OOC: I second that.

Oh, and by the way:
http://s6.invisionfree.com/Conservative/index.php

The Commonwealth of Gran Cienaga would be honored to be accepted into this alliance

OOC: I can't join the region yet since I'm a member of New Meritocracy

Bump!

Forum created - see the link in my last post in the topic.

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I would like to join.

We would be pleased if Parthia was permitted to enter the alliance.

We strongly urge Holy Paradise to admit Parthia into this alliance.

If it's "open to all," does that mean liberals can join? :D

If it's "open to all," does that mean liberals can join? :D
Why would they want to?

We strongly urge Holy Paradise to admit Parthia into this alliance.

*cough*

Don't worry, they are in, RB.

*cat-like yawn*

The forums are still there, you guys. I notice nobody else has signed up. ;)

We seek to join this esteemed alliance. We hope that you see the valuable contribution we cna bring and let us in.

We would like to join this alliance, an alliance of right-wing ideas.

OOC: You do know in the Sevaris-DA thread you were fighting with communist left-wing nations against capitalist right-wing nations, dont you?

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He's got a right-wing government now, fascist Adolf Gorring was elected by the people of Lame Bums today/yesterday, something like that.

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OOC: Ok.

We request aid in removing several imperialistic occupiers from a great ally, Roach-Busters. Please pledge your support and aid us in this righteous campaign to liberate a freedom loving nation. Help us remove the imperialists. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=405303)

ZAckaroth is willing to join this alliance.

Shogun Tomzilla the First, Shogun of Tomzilla, wishes to know if Tomzilla will be allowed in the alliance.

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I will most glady join your conservative alliance, but I am part of a private region and I'm not sure if my friends would like me to join. However, even if I do not join your region the LAM empire will glady support you through any struggle. Please contact me if you wish.

Emperor Dague
Empire of Vashutze
One of the five nations in the LAM empire

The Benevolent Kabal have met in conclave and have decreed that the Theocracy of the Benevolent Kabal shall seek entrance into this hallowed region. Since the Kabal's, blessed be, ascension, the Kabalian Encouragement Storm Troopers (Kestroopers) have been waging a gruesome war against left wing thought and dissidence. The battle itself is going well, but the Kabal, blessed be, wish to reinforce their position in the civilised, non left world.

Warrior Abbott Devlin Sinclair
Minister of Harsh Justice

(OOC) How do I join the CDEA region?

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