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Japanese Antarctican Air Force budget meeting, F-3 Presentation

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The F-3 was built to replace the XF-1, which was never used in active service. Originally, the XF-1 was to be redesignated JF-1 and used as a fighter/bomber but a materials and resource shortage after the Soviet Expanse wars put an end to the hopes of flying the JF-1.
After losing a contract to SAI Corp.'s XF-1, Mitsubishi hired more engineers to work on new project. Determined not to lose twice, Mitsubishi spent billions on the development of the new aircraft.
The result of Mitsubishi Aerospace division's hard work is the F-3. The aircraft is not terribly fast, but it was not designed to run away from a fight. Instead, it is designed to be able to keep dishing out damage. The F-3 has an astonishing turn radius and is extremely maneuverable, thanks to the canard wings and 3d thrust vectoring. The F-3 was also chosen because it is designed with future weapons in mind.
Stealth was also taken into consideration. The F-3 is coated with 18 layers of radar absorbing paint, allowing it to be less visible to a broader range of wavelengths. In order to reduce the infrared signature, exhaust is vented through special ceramic-matrix RAM nozzles. Weapons can be stored internally, and bay doors are open for a fraction of a second.

Stats

Powerplant: 2 x Ishikawajima-Harime TFD-14000 = < 30,000 lbs total thrust
Empty Weight: 30,000 lbs
Max Takeoff: ~70,000 lbs
Speed: Max: 1.84, Supercruise 1.65
Ceiling: 65,000 ft.
Normal Combat radius(without mid-airrefueling/external tanks): 670 Nautical Miles
Wingspan: 45.3 feet
Height: 16.2 feet
Length: 59.9 feet
Radar: J/APG-77 (roughly equivalent to AN/APG-77)
Likely Armament:

1 x 20mm cannon
2 x AIM-9m-9 Sidewinder or 2 x AAM-3
6 x AIM-120C

possibly anti shipping missiles as well

Crew: 1 pilot
Ejection Seat: Imasen E16J (roughly same as Martin Baker MK 16e)

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Very nice! :)

*Tag*

OOC: What is top speed?

OOC:You can carry over twelve missiles internaly, or is that counting pylons?

OOC:You can carry over twelve missiles internaly, or is that counting pylons?

12? I count only 8.

Thanks Nutro for pointing my mistake out.

[Looks like it's just 8 AAMs and a cannon, which isn't bad for such a light fighter. What does Tsubame mean, anyway?]

12? I count only 8.

Thanks Nutro for pointing my mistake out.
OOC:Bah, I could've sworn it said 6 sidewinders, but I must have misread.

I assume this is not in effect for the CAD war.

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No, I think it is.

I assume this is not in effect for the CAD war.

Obviously a newly created plane will not immeadiately go into service in the current war. Production rate at the moment is 5 aircraft per Mitsubishi Aerospace plants (total of 8 factories in all of Japanese Antarctica, so that's 40 per month). If need be, rush production can bump it up to 8 aircraft per plant per month.

[Looks like it's just 8 AAMs and a cannon, which isn't bad for such a light fighter. What does Tsubame mean, anyway?]

I think it means "swallow" (the bird).

No, I think it is.

Elaborate please.

OOC:I was talking to Wirraway, apparently I was mistaken in that you won't be able to field large numbers of these.

OOC: Looks damn good, but you should probably add range for this thing. Also, I'm not quite sure why you'd use two underpowered turbofans instead of just using a single, more powerful engine like the JAS-39.

OOC: Looks damn good, but you should probably add range for this thing. Also, I'm not quite sure why you'd use two underpowered turbofans instead of just using a single, more powerful engine like the JAS-39.

Well, unless I'm mistaken, I always believed that turbofans are always quieter and emit less heat than most other jet engines.

[Doesn't really matter, a heat seaker will lock onto it anyway. Best using full-powered engines and hope your flares work if you are in a dogfight.

[Doesn't really matter, a heat seaker will lock onto it anyway. Best using full-powered engines and hope your flares work if you are in a dogfight.

what do you recommend?

bump-

what kind of powerplant would be best?

PDET hybrids are all the rage for most high-end air superiority fighters, but since this is a lightweight, I'd probably suggest some more powerful turbojets instead.

PDET hybrids are all the rage for most high-end air superiority fighters, but since this is a lightweight, I'd probably suggest some more powerful turbojets instead.

aren't turbojets really inefficient though? don't they suck a lot of fuel?

well you could always use one large jet engine and hook a scram jet on the bottom which would make it rediculolusly fast however speed lowers stealth qualities conciderably. more speed equals more heat meaning easier to track and locate. air superiority isnt all about dog fighting. dog fights rarly happen anymore. missles are pointless in dog fights anyway . they dont have enough time to guide to the target before they pass it thats what cannons are for. where as stealth is more for sams .

well you could always use one large jet engine and hook a scram jet on the bottom which would make it rediculolusly fast however speed lowers stealth qualities conciderably. more speed equals more heat meaning easier to track and locate. air superiority isnt all about dog fighting. dog fights rarly happen anymore. missles are pointless in dog fights anyway . they dont have enough time to guide to the target before they pass it thats what cannons are for. where as stealth is more for sams .

There are short range missiles, and the cannon is for the dog fights.

What are those bulges on the side meant to be?

What are those bulges on the side meant to be?

Me trying to make an intake i think :( i'm not too good at 3d modeling, but I'm going to take a class in spring, so hopefully I'll learn a thing or two.

Me trying to make an intake i think :( i'm not too good at 3d modeling, but I'm going to take a class in spring, so hopefully I'll learn a thing or two.

OOC:

Oh, sorry. I thought that they were intentional anyway. It's better than I can do. I thought that they were some sort of thick, bulgy canards or something.

EDIT: Oops, wait, no, I meant the things under the canopy...

OOC:

Oh, sorry. I thought that they were intentional anyway. It's better than I can do. I thought that they were some sort of thick, bulgy canards or something.

EDIT: Oops, wait, no, I meant the things under the canopy...

yes, those be canards, but like i said, i'm bad at this stuff.