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A great day in the history of North Germania!

The nation of Belarus was successfully invaded and conquered by the forces of Germania, Layarteb, Cotland, and Gintonpar.

Reconstruction of the nation has begun. The minor cities and small towns and villages that were damaged during the fight are being repaired, and the fires of Minsk are being put to rest.

Rebuilding Minsk will be a long process; however, under the new Germanian rule, the economy will be revitalized using the methods of North Germania -- the economic power of the military.

Any Belarusian willing to do so will be given a job such as high-paying work in the fields of tank production, aircraft production, naval production, and many others.

The war was a great stimulant to the economy of North Germania, and to retain its current economic strength, the citizens of Belarus will help in the current 23% increase of the current military.

Vehicles and soldiers lost are quickly being replaced and improved, and the overall strength of the military will have a huge boost.

While Belarus has been conquered, North Germania's land is still spread-out.

The Reich wishes for more...

- N.G.

In light of the victory in Belarus, the Imperial Layartebian Navy in the North and Baltic Seas will be making their way to the Atlantic Ocean for post-ops exercises. The two task forces will combine into one, Task Force November. Task Force Majestic will remain in Kaliningrad as the situation there is very fragile and must be dealt with immediately. Task Force Juno will remain in Denmark to participate in post-op, joint exercises as well.

The Emperor of Layarteb wishes to send its congradulations to North Germania and thank both CotlaCotland and Gintonpar for their assistance with this conflict. Your help was impervious to enemy attempts and you have assisted us significantly. Keep up the good work!

To: North Germania

We congraduate you on your victory over Belarus. Unfortunetly we were unable to aid you as our small standing army was tangled up with affairs in Utah. We would be more than willing to help you with the reconstruction of Belarus, we could supply you with the raw matierals you require, or if you'd like help pay for this war as an operation as massive as this one must have been expensive. You have our full support in creating a unified European based German homeland.

Cottish News Broadcast
Elected Leader Rothsky said today in a press conferance that "the Belarussan threath has been terminated" and the nations of the 'Alliance' has "been successful in achieving the mission objective, which was to free the Belarussan people of the regime they lived under, one so cynical that they used nuclear weapons against the troops of North Germania, for then to cry out when the Germanian troops took their rightful vengeance. My thanks and congratulations go out to the brave soldiers of North Germania, Layarteb and Gintonpar, as well as our own brave and curageous troops. I'm pleased to inform you that not one Cottish soldier lost his life during the campaign. However, several Germanian, Layartebian and Gintonparian soldiers fell during the campaign. My condolences go out to their families"

We must now join hands in the rebuilding proccess and I also propose a non-aggression pact between our four countries.

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar

OOC: I would prefer it if my people were reffered to as 'Gintons', Gintonparians just sounds silly lol.

I now draw attention to the fact that our price for entering the war will now be exacted. A total of five radar listening stations are being set up in North Germanian Belarus, and will be counted as Gintonpar soil. The intelligence that they pick up, mainly from the threatening Eastern nations, i.e Hogsweat, will be passed on to our allies and you can use our radar stations as a source of intelligence for any information you glean from the East. Also I once again stress the need for a non-aggression pact between the nations of Layarteb, Cotland, North Germania, and our own nation of Gintonpar.

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar

The Empire of Layarteb has taken note of your offer for a non-aggression pact but at this moment in time, we cannot sign any additional treaties than the ones we currently have. No aggression is meant to any nation therein listed but we cannot overextend ourselves with any possible entangling alliances at this moment.

Euroslavia congratulates North Germania and their allies on their victorious conflict, and wishes to make some sort of NAP so that our territories will be safe. If you insist on furthering your campaign, depending on the situation, and the territory, we may be able to aid you.

The Empire of Layarteb has taken note of your offer for a non-aggression pact but at this moment in time, we cannot sign any additional treaties than the ones we currently have. No aggression is meant to any nation therein listed but we cannot overextend ourselves with any possible entangling alliances at this moment.

I appreciate your concern for not wishing to be entangles in alliances but hoped that you would not view us as potential enemies. While respecting the wishes of your nation, we cannot help but be alarmed at your refusal to sign this treaty that does not obligate you to do anything apart from not attack the other three countries. In no way does it bind you to fight on their side in any military action. I would hope that North Germania and Cotland both see the sensible side of this treaty as it entails no military requirements to aid the other countries, simply it is a show of peaceful policy towards them. I hope that Layarteb reconsiders this offer to help bring peace and stability to the World. The offer still stands. As it does to North Germania and Cotland.


Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

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Euroslavia, the Principality of Gintonpar formally invites you to sign a non-aggression pact between your nation and the nations of Gintonpar, Cotland and North Germania. Although Layarteb has said he will not yet sign I am hoping that he will read the arguments of my last post and consider the points I have made in it. The more signatures we get, especially that of a respected nation such as yourself, Euroslavia, will go far to convincing others to sign this peaceful treaty.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

Cotland will sign the Non Agression Pact with the great and sovereign nations of North Germania, Layarteb, Gintonpar and Euroslavia.

Excellent, this is our first step to bringing a more peaceful atmosphere to the World. We call on the other nations invited to sign this valuable treaty.

The Empire of Layarteb follows the principle of realist isolationist. This means that while we acknowledge the presence of actors in the international world and that it is not a vaccuum, we choose to limit ourselves only to those areas that directly affect us.

Secondly, we believe Non-Aggression Pacts are worthless. The only thing that binds nations is non-aggression towards another nation. It is a polite way of delaying the inevitable (Russian-German NAP of the 1930s). There are no consequences to those who break the pact and it is really just a worthless endeavor.

In our opinion it puts a barrier before war and improves diplomatic relations between the countries involved. Basically it would help us to improve diplomatic dialogue and would provide closer links between the countries involved. We still hope you may change your decision and formally invite other nations contact us on this forum if they wish to be invloved. The World is not a far away place, we cannot live in isolation. We must co-operate for a more open market, more business opportunities, the chance to improve the lives of all our people, and to work towards peace.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

The Empire of Layarteb believes strongly that it does not take a NAP to place a barrier before war nor does it provide any boost to the possibility of diplomatic relations. If the leaders of both countries are gentlemen or women, then they will work out their differences through dialogue before war anyway. Otherwise, a NAP will make no difference if they are to the contrary and are of lesser character.

Your policy is regrettably isolationist and could lead to trouble simply ignoring World issues. This is a genuine attempt to foster peace and diplomatic accord, the least you could do would be to back the scheme by signing it. Even if you personally feel that it would do no good, it would appear to others that Layarteb is working towards a lasting peace, even if you personally feel otherwise. The offer stands. As it does to all other nations who wish to create a lasting peace in the Eastern European area.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

The offer stands. As it does to all other nations who wish to create a lasting peace in the Eastern European area.

We wish to sign a NAP with the countries in question. We have monitored the situation in Belarus and the rest of Eastern Europe, and we think that it has been enough wars...

We still have a higher level on our defense, and our borders are closed due to the invasion of Belarus.

We already have diplomatic connections with Cotland and Layarteb, and we have friendly relations with North Germania. We also have good connections with the Soviet (Hogsweat).

President of Baltic Karelia
General Karl Andersson

OOC: Kriegorgrad shall keep a watchful eye on on the events in Europe, should any Kriegos interests be threatened, we will grow agitated and the scorpion strikes most quickly when it's sting is raised and tail tense.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

OOC: Great, I just found out some people in my region are going against you NG and Lay. But then again, they are annoying me right now. One of them blasting out annoying Hindu/Muslim prayers...and then me being looked upon as a Facist lol.....

Hrmm...btw TG me NG.

haha TG NG...lol

While we do not approve of Hogsweats political leanings we DO wish him to sign the pact. There has been enough bloodshed in Eastern Europe, and while we realise that if a nation is set for war then this will do little to stop it, we do feel it will prove a diplomatic barrier and will lower the reputation of those who break it. This is also the first step to starting a program of trust in Eastern Europe that will hopefully foster peace in the region. Thanks for signing Baltic Karelia, your signature is appreciated and will hopefully lead to others signing the pact. Once again, I call on all the other nations who have an interest in peace in the region to sign this pact.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

OOC: Kriegorgrad shall keep a watchful eye on on the events in Europe, should any Kriegos interests be threatened, we will grow agitated and the scorpion strikes most quickly when it's sting is raised and tail tense.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

Kriegorgad, I dont know who you think is threatening your interests, or even what your interests are, as you havnt even said. But I do call on you to sign the pact, it will help bring peace and stability to the region, which is surely one of everyones main interests.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

ooc: Why don't you just move this to another thread?

Your policy is regrettably isolationist and could lead to trouble simply ignoring World issues. This is a genuine attempt to foster peace and diplomatic accord, the least you could do would be to back the scheme by signing it. Even if you personally feel that it would do no good, it would appear to others that Layarteb is working towards a lasting peace, even if you personally feel otherwise. The offer stands. As it does to all other nations who wish to create a lasting peace in the Eastern European area.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

The Empire of Layarteb does not believe in the policy of peace. There will only be peace when humanity ceases to exist because we won't be around to cause problems. We believe in varrying degrees of chaos and conflict. What you would call peace I would call calm. What you would call war I would also call war but define it as total chaos to that region or world, whichever it may be. We do not care if the rest of the world sees us as fostering peace or not, it is not in our perogative. Unless we have military units at your border, in transit to you, or flying overhead, then it's a good scenario (for you).

North Germania appreciates the proposals of said NAP's. However, we are more interested in signing a proposal of iron-clad military alliance.

We believe, as said by Layarteb, that NAP's are, indeed, useless unless formed between two nations at odds.

If any of you wish to form a military alliance with the sovereign nation of North Germania, I will propose the details of such a signing.

Apart from this, North Germania does not respond well to subtle threats, such as those thrown by Kriegorgrad. I estimate Kriegorgrad's military to be powerful, but I do not estimate that it could very well easily run over Germania's.

Furthermore, there have been no aggressive movements towards Kriegorgrad whatsoever. And frankly, we are rather offended. Meaning, irritated. Close borders indeed...

- N.G.

North Germania appreciates the proposals of said NAP's. However, we are more interested in signing a proposal of iron-clad military alliance.

We believe, as said by Layarteb, that NAP's are, indeed, useless unless formed between two nations at odds.

If any of you wish to form a military alliance with the sovereign nation of North Germania, I will propose the details of such a signing.

Apart from this, North Germania does not respond well to subtle threats, such as those thrown by Kriegorgrad. I estimate Kriegorgrad's military to be powerful, but I do not estimate that it could very well easily run over Germania's.

Furthermore, there have been no aggressive movements towards Kriegorgrad whatsoever. And frankly, we are rather offended. Meaning, irritated. Close borders indeed...

- N.G.

Cotland is interested in joining our ally North Germania in partisipating in such an alliance. Can you please outline the details of the alliance?

Any nation within said military alliance that is attacked (whether if it was a provoked attack or an aggressive attack), will have official war declared on any given attacking nation by ALL nations within the military alliance.

Nations within the alliance will give military aid to any other member nations requesting it, unless there is good reason not to.

Good reason will be defined by a 75% majority vote by all member nations.

Those are the basics.

- N.G.

Any nation within said military alliance that is attacked (whether if it was a provoked attack or an aggressive attack), will have official war declared on any given attacking nation by ALL nations within the military alliance.

Nations within the alliance will give military aid to any other member nations requesting it, unless there is good reason not to.

Good reason will be defined by a 75% majority vote by all member nations.

Those are the basics.

- N.G.

Count me in.

Any nation within said military alliance that is attacked (whether if it was a provoked attack or an aggressive attack), will have official war declared on any given attacking nation by ALL nations within the military alliance.

Nations within the alliance will give military aid to any other member nations requesting it, unless there is good reason not to.

Good reason will be defined by a 75% majority vote by all member nations.

Those are the basics.

- N.G.

We will also sign

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

OOC: who is this alliance open to? I’m interested but not sure if I’m invited.

With Andrehervian territory and interests within Europe, we would also be interested in joining the NG military alliance. Hopefully the power and dignity of this alliance will ensure peace in our region for years to come.

The alliance is open to all who have an interest in the affairs of state in Europe. As I am claiming Turkey, this is my reason to be in.

Deepest Regards,
Gintonpar

The alliance is open to all who have an interest in the affairs of state in Europe. As I am claiming Turkey, this is my reason to be in.

Deepest Regards,
Gintonpar

Go re-read the Earth II thread and the claims list.

Yea just cheked that now, read Earth II revitalisation for the reason I made an idiot of myself lol.

However, I am concerned with the affairs of Europe as I have just fought a war there to bring stability to the region, so I am still in the alliance.

OOC: Great, I just found out some people in my region are going against you NG and Lay. But then again, they are annoying me right now. One of them blasting out annoying Hindu/Muslim prayers...and then me being looked upon as a Facist lol.....

Hrmm...btw TG me NG.

haha TG NG...lol

Thanks for the heads up.

Kriegorgad, I dont know who you think is threatening your interests, or even what your interests are, as you havnt even said. But I do call on you to sign the pact, it will help bring peace and stability to the region, which is surely one of everyones main interests.

Deepest Regards,
The Principality of Gintonpar

To my friends in North Germania and Gintonpar, I apologise for the lack of clarity, I must mention that the United Kingdom is a Kriegos colony, should any hostile moves be taken towards it by anyone, Kriegorgrad will react with utmost force.

To my counterpart in North Germania, I'd like to say some things in this letter but I'd rather keep this on a diplomatic note...

Also, consider the pact signed.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

So far the alliance includes:

Gintonpar
North Germania
Cotland
Anderhevia
Kriegorgad
Pernica (yes its open to all who have an interest in peace in Eastern Europe, as far as I know at least)


Could anyone confirm the detailed principles of this alliance?

Deepest Regards
The Principality of Gintonpar

Kriegorgrad, we have no interests in attacking the UK or any of your other lands.

Gintonpar, the nations you have listed have not necessarily been agreed to be allowed in.

However, as Andrehervia has helped me immensely in the fight in Europe, he is in. No questions asked.

I would like to speak further with Pernica and Kriegorgrad before allowing them in. Don't know much about them.

- N.G.

I would like to speak further with Pernica and Kriegorgrad before allowing them in. Don't know much about them.- N.G.

OOC: I've been trying to ask for you permission to help in the reconstruction of Berlarus. :headbang:

Pernica, please do help rebuild! If you could help construct some tank factories and help with the new military airport being built in Minsk too, it would be much appreciated.

LOL I meant with the alliance, by the way.

To: Germania

Before we make the announcement public to the many competing corporations of Pernica that we will be partaking in the reconstruction of Belarus we must ensure passage ways for the freight/cargo ships that will be transporting the goods. Up until now Pernican interests remained primarly in the Pacific. We are confident that Colodia will most likely deny us to move any more of our freight through the Panama Canal. We ask that you allow our freight/cargo ships passage along the coast of Baffin Island. As the vast majority of raw matierals will be shipping from Alaska we believe with enough care we could navigate through the Northern islands to Baffin Island and then on to Belarus. While there maybe significantly more risk involved the amount of time saved will be astronomical.

In light of the situation inside Kaliningrad, we regret that we cannot take on any building contracts inside of Belarus. Our resources must be applied to Kaliningrad in order to maintain some stability for the Empire. We will provide up to $3B however in light of this to help rebuild Minsk.

Euroslavia is interested in taking place in such an Alliance...We are willing to discuss the terms of the Alliance with the current members.

Cotland may be wiling to place one of our XM-8 rifle manufactoring plants in Belarus.

Kriegorgrad, we have no interests in attacking the UK or any of your other lands.

Gintonpar, the nations you have listed have not necessarily been agreed to be allowed in.

However, as Andrehervia has helped me immensely in the fight in Europe, he is in. No questions asked.

I would like to speak further with Pernica and Kriegorgrad before allowing them in. Don't know much about them.

- N.G.

Dude I didnt mean that they were in lol. Kinda misworded it lol. I just meant to say that they were the nations that expressed an interest. Sorry for any confusion, I didnt mean to say that they were IN the alliance, just that they were wanting to be in it. Sorry once again for the confusion.

In further light of problems, the Empire of Layarteb requests that the North Germania closes the Lithuania / Kaliningrad border. We will be asking Aequatio to do the same along the Polish border.

******Official Communique From The Roman Government******

We would like to assist in the rebuilding of Belarus. We would also like to ask, out of curiosity, North Germania, Cotland and Kreigograd, since you guys are also in the Roman Confederacy, is there anything our alliance can do in Eastern Europe?

OOC EDIT- I'm not going to stop you from creating another alliance.

Pernica: Access to cross through the waters around Baffin Island is granted, happily.

Layarteb: Consider the borders CLOSED. Any Kaliningradian found attempting to illegally enter North Germania's lands will be shot on spot by the Reichswehr Guards, who protect the borders.

Pyschotika: I am happy we are developing friendly relations, and I thank you for kind words.

Cotland: Any weapons production factory of any kind would be appreciated.

Euroslavia: You are welcome to join, given we discuss this further. Further members are welcome.

RomeW: Your helping to rebuild Belarus would assist us greatly. If you wish to proceed in doing so, our borders are open to your people.

As far as Eastern Europe is concerned, everything is under tight control, save for the situation in Kaliningrad. However, that is not my business. It is Layarteb's. It only becomes mine if he asks me for help, or if Kaliningrad rebels attack North Germanian lands.

- N.G.

In further retrospect, Cotland need to produce more ammunition.
We will therefore construct a ammunation factory where we'll produce 5.56x45 mm NATO ammunition (the ammo used by Cottish XM-8A1 assault rifles, XM-8A2 SAWs, XM-8A3 para rifles, and XM-8A4 PDWs (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm)) if permitted by North Germania.
The plant will employ 5000 persons, and will be guarded by Cottish occupation troops.
It's estimated that the plant will produce millions of rounds per month.

Other nations are welcome to purchase ammo from us if you wish.

Is the defence alliance in effect?

The Empire of Layarteb thanks North Germania greatly for their understanding of the matter. If any Kaliningrad insurgents are seen crossing the border please either shoot them or if they are of high rank detain them for questioning.

Thank You

RomeW: Your helping to rebuild Belarus would assist us greatly. If you wish to proceed in doing so, our borders are open to your people.

We shall proceed in doing so, then.

upon the announcment that the Pernica would be participating in the reconstruction of Belarus the private market erupted into a blood bath as companies and contractors bid each other for the government contracts. It was not soon before the winning corporations with the best bids were dramatically increasing production in order to fufill the massive orders. Measures to improve roads in Alaska were being taken before the the next phase of the movement of matierals and personals to Belarus. Cargo ships from the crowded ports of the Pernican mainland moved in a steady line.

To: North Germania

Expect the first shipment of construction matierals and contractors in Belarus within 3 weeks. Have you're ports fully operational and trucks on standby.

.:. BUMP .:.

Is this still active?

I thought it had been resolved. I have my listening posts, North Germania has its territory, you have your secure frontier. Resolved as far as I can see.

OOC: Its not my place to interfere, but i saw the other thread, and you never resolved it, never got a treaty of annexation, and presumably never read the conditions of surrender. Nothing.

OOC: Its not my place to interfere, but i saw the other thread, and you never resolved it, never got a treaty of annexation, and presumably never read the conditions of surrender. Nothing.

Belarus surrendered in return for us to spare Minsk.

OOC: I see that absolutely nowhere though, all i see is current borders, and that was when you were outside Minsk, Meaning Minsk is still Byelorussian

OOC: I see that absolutely nowhere though, all i see is current borders, and that was when you were outside Minsk, Meaning Minsk is still Byelorussian

Check the war thread.

All nations offering assistance in rebuilding Belarus or constructing production factories will be allowed into the borders, and any additional equipment or material will be available.

North Germania thanks you all for your help.

I did... OOC: Ok, your new thread is all pretty and nice, but you havnt annexed anything, as its not RP'ed, so i would kindly like you to make that thread void, the key part of the surrender, when it was issued, was that current borders will be used, which means Minsk is Belarussian, Now, if you'd actually like to RP properly a peace settlement, then get back to me on it, instead of going off on some wierd hyper-time travel trip.