NationStates Jolt Archive

Well ok I’m going to correct my past statistics, I’ve discovered what was wrong with my past statistics by way of a very good explanation of my friend via msn and aim…how I went wrong and why I cant have this 2 trill pop…so I’ve decided to drop it down all the way to 50 billion…ICly on ns since (in space I would have that much)

Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope you find this factbook useful for any possible RP’s we may have in the future!

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The UFP Fleet –

Total Star Fleet Military: 2500 capable star ships (uprated fleets stand from 2500 - 6000 during war time )
Total Merchant Man Fleet: 10,000 ships (Privately owned)

Total government tug merchantman fleet:
1500 ships (Media company owned) Telecommunications: 621,000,000,000 comm terminals, 8743 subspace comm relays, 5220 commercial and holorecreation transmitters.

Major industries:
large-scale replication, starship/space station construction, pharmaceutical agriculture, computer programming, asteroid mining, and antimatter production.

Industrial Production: growth rate +10.9%

Ethnic Groups: 85 % human, 15 % halfling

Notable places –
New Union City capitol
New London media center.

(More information coming soon)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/TheFedUnion/ZakianPLUSrobmapII1.jpg

This is map of Federal Space.

Note: Blue space indicates that the area is UFP controlled.

Base Statistics –

Population: 50,000,000,000

Tax rate: 20%

Military budget: 50,150,000,000,000

Trade surplus: 13,877,209,451,144.5 (50x from third geek)

R & D budget: 7,000,000,000,000 USFU credits (comes out of military budget, also funded by Corporate entities/private contractors)

Planetary Use: Agricultural 30%; Inhabited 30%; Industrial 30%; Unused 10 %

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Official Name: The United Federation of Planets

Unofficial Name: The Fedral Union

Abbreviation: UFP

Official languages: English

Alphabet: Latin-English

Average Life Expectancy: inf
Nationality: Federal

National Animal: the Eagle, a patriotic symbol of Federal pride.

Ethnic Groups: 88% Federal, 11% Immigrants, 1% Other

Literacy rate: 100 %

Legal Ages:

Sexual Consent – 13

Drinking – 18

Driving – 16

Voting – 16

Sexual Consent - 13

Climate: N/A - The UFP is spread over many planets.

Religion(s): none (officially)

Current party in power: Democrats

Current Leader: Robert Bastidas

Government type: Imperial Democracy (unofficially called a “democratic republic”)

Main Power Source: Fusion and Anti-Matter

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

UN Civil Rights: Excellent

UN Economy: Frightening

UN Political Freedoms: Very Good

UN Status: Non-delegate member

Region: Land of the Fenix

Monetary Unit: The Fedral Dollar

Conversion: 1 FD = $180.0557

Population: 50 billion and growing steadily

Major industries:

Large-scale replication, starship/space station construction, pharmaceutical agriculture, computer programming, asteroid mining, antimatter production, Alloy metal manufacturing.

Other industries:

Industries: Uranium mining, military applications, Mass Manufacture of Clothing, Auto manufacturing and Agriculture.

Exports: Agricultural contracts, small amounts of Uranium, military parts and machine components.

Receive one hug redeemable at any time :D... im glad you changed your mind.

Umm... Well... Can I have half of your military budget? Please?

2000 Capable starships, They'll all be dead one day.
50 Billion is stupid, You cant have above 2000 anyway because in all reliaty it's only 2.5 Billion.
Of crouse You can have your fancy ships, Im getting rid of my old fleet.

O.o well thanks for YOUR contribution

I'm ditching my current fleet in about an RL month to make way for a new one, one thats over 8 times more powerful than the ships in that current fleet.

I'm ditching my current fleet in about an RL month to make way for a new one, one thats over 8 times more powerful than the ships in that current fleet.


*sighs* no one cares about your puny little nation ok .. this is fine no one else is wheining .. ohh look at me i have a bit *** the size of this stop bragging no one cares about your fleet!!!! go run off with gz and wank till your hearts content

Last time I checked I had GZ on my ignore list, Last time I checked I was only a few million smaller than you.
Last time I checked I said it would be more powerful than MY Current Fleet, not yours, I wouldn't RP with you if my life dependin on it. I don't care about your fleet.

Last time I checked I had GZ on my ignore list, Last time I checked I was only a few million smaller than you.
Last time I checked I said it would be more powerful than MY Current Fleet, not yours, I wouldn't RP with you if my life dependin on it. I don't care about your fleet.


yeah please remove your self from my thread.

Well if you want an actual response, here it is,

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Your fleet size seems pretty good for a nation your size.
I dont think you need so many tugs, as most FT ships can manuver pretty good on there own, You could cut your tug number and increase your Fleet budget a bit, maybe get some patrol ships out of that. I'd also recnomend adding a backup network. In case the 1st one goes down. You can use your own ships as platforms you can save some money that way.

*sighs * thanks for the advice but im sticking with my pop ..

Bear in mind that comercial interests would also be served by tugs... this is after all an operating nation not just a front for a big army :D

bump

$50 trillion dollar budget?

Thats certainly not unreasonable... my 311 million population nation has a budget of 10.9 trillion.

bumpy

Up it gose

*sighs* no one cares about your puny little nation ok .. this is fine no one else is wheining .. ohh look at me i have a bit *** the size of this stop bragging no one cares about your fleet!!!! go run off with gz and wank till your hearts content

Now there's no need for a temper like that. Try to be polite-you'll find you get a lot more respect.

Well, the new stats seem much more acceptable now. 50billion as oppossed to 2trillion is much better. Congrats.

Now there's no need for a temper like that. Try to be polite-you'll find you get a lot more respect.

Which is really something that you need to invest in TFU. No offense, just trying to help.

Bump

Buump!

OOC: Great TFU, we just need to work on that RP we are going to have soon and a few little niggles with this economy statistics thing.

Bump

up it gose no more comments?

I note that you seem to have a population of fifty-billion. Isnt that a bit large?
Oh, and your map looks kinda like Eurasia, coincidence?

I note that you seem to have a population of fifty-billion. Isnt that a bit large?
Oh, and your map looks kinda like Eurasia, coincidence?

OOC: I am the friend who is helping TFU, AKA Kriegorgrad, 50 billion is acceptable considering he is a large empire, also, you have to remember he needs to populate each of the planets within his dominion.

50 Billion is an acceptable number as long as he doesn't go "CONSCRIPT TIME!" and suddenly have a 10 billion man army or whatever but I doubt he'll do that, I'm going to have an RP with him soon that prove all the TFU bashers and their beliefs wrong, hopefully this will please the TFU bashers because they will have another interesting and functional RPer to work with.

Actually at this point, TFU is definitely godmodding. There is no other nation in NS that is claiming anywhere close to a fifty billion population... Even though its forty times less than what he claimed earlier with his 2 trillion population, it is still unacceptable. He is a November 2003 nation claiming to have a population approximately ten times larger than the biggest nation in existence on NS. How is that possible?

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What he said.
I have a pan-galactic uber-empire, and I dont claim 50 billion people. I claim 3.077 billion.

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What he said.
I have a pan-galactic uber-empire, and I dont claim 50 billion people. I claim 3.077 billion.

[Kriegorgrad]

You have a huge empire yet you have only 3 billion people? So you have about 100 million people per planet, do you know how little that is? Earth is 6 billion and there is loads of spare land left (well not loads but there is land) yet you somehow populate this uber empire with 3 billion people?

5CN, I hold a good deal of respect for you but can you just LEAVE IT! His military is tiny and what good can 50 billion people do? All you need to do is gas them all and you'll be fine and seeing as you never RP with TFU, how does this affect you?

I hold a good deal of respect for both DGNT and 5CN but you are both being unreasonable by dipping your fingers into a pudding that you have no intention of eating, you just want to say it tastes bad.

TFU as i stated on MSN, you've worked the budget thing wrong, since Thirdgeek works out you trade as a 2 Billion nation (or around that) you dont mutiply by 50 since 2x50=100 you need to mutiply by 25 (2x25=50), simple mistake i know.

[Kriegorgrad]

You have a huge empire yet you have only 3 billion people? So you have about 100 million people per planet, do you know how little that is? Earth is 6 billion and there is loads of spare land left (well not loads but there is land) yet you somehow populate this uber empire with 3 billion people?

I hold a good deal of respect for both DGNT and 5CN but you are both being unreasonable by dipping your fingers into a pudding that you have no intention of eating, you just want to say it tastes bad.
For the same reason Melkor has an uber-star empire with a few more people. Its the NS-Relative thing.
My population might not be evenly distributed, for instance I might have X people on Earth, but only a few thosand somewhere else. The way you really build uber-star-empires in NS is to go about making allies, conqouring people, and selling stuff.

As to your pudding metaphore...
I dont particularly like or dislike TFU, I havent really talked to him enough to know him. I am not generaly a basher, Ive once or twice egged a n00b on, but to the point. I am more concerned that TFU is going to get himself ignored by yet more people, and that he is going to screw himself even more.

For the same reason Melkor has an uber-star empire with a few more people. Its the NS-Relative thing.
My population might not be evenly distributed, for instance I might have X people on Earth, but only a few thosand somewhere else. The way you really build uber-star-empires in NS is to go about making allies, conqouring people, and selling stuff.

As to your pudding metaphore...
I dont particularly like or dislike TFU, I havent really talked to him enough to know him. I am not generaly a basher, Ive once or twice egged a n00b on, but to the point. I am more concerned that TFU is going to get himself ignored by yet more people, and that he is going to screw himself even more.

Ahh, sorry about the misunderstanding, paticuarly on the last paragraph, I thought you were joining in with the same old "BASH TFU!" but it appears you weren't but you have to admit, the pudding metaphor owns! :)

The way you really build uber-star-empires in NS is to go about making allies, conqouring people, and selling stuff.

I understand where you are coming from but how does selling stuff get you an uber empire? And how does making allies make you an empire, because, you'd have allied space that will welcome you in during times of need but it isn't your space, is it?

Anyway, good points, I'll leave you now because you were only trying to I help, I misunderstood, you're off the hook!

TFU as i stated on MSN, you've worked the budget thing wrong, since Thirdgeek works out you trade as a 2 Billion nation (or around that) you dont mutiply by 50 since 2x50=100 you need to mutiply by 25 (2x25=50), simple mistake i know.

Good point, TFU is doing physics yet he makes a mistake like that. :p

For the same reason Melkor has an uber-star empire with a few more people.

Err... Where did you get that idea from? Melkor only has one offworld outpost I can think of, and it's in the Solar System.

You may be thinking of Siri there.

For the same reason Melkor has an uber-star empire with a few more people.

Are you talking about Melkor Unchained here? If you are... You have a very odd definition of them "über-star empires", since Melkor's pretty much, as far as I know, Sol bound, having some stuff outside of Earth (is there something else but that outpost on Io?), but that's pretty much it.

Ahh, sorry about the misunderstanding, paticuarly on the last paragraph, I thought you were joining in with the same old "BASH TFU!" but it appears you weren't but you have to admit, the pudding metaphor owns! :)



I understand where you are coming from but how does selling stuff get you an uber empire? And how does making allies make you an empire, because, you'd have allied space that will welcome you in during times of need but it isn't your space, is it?

Anyway, good points, I'll leave you now because you were only trying to I help, I misunderstood, you're off the hook!

Indeed, the pudding metaphore is 'teh pwn'

Selling stuff gets you an uber-star empire becase money=power, PLUS you can repo the nations of people who dont pay.
Hehehe.

Well, I was thinking of some old nation (Older nation, anyway) with lots of people and lots of space. They generaly dont provide maps that I see. :P

Nice work, except for this:


Literacy rate: 100 %


That would imply that your entire population is literate which is near impossible.

Nice work, except for this:

Literacy rate: 100 %

That would imply that your entire population is literate which is near impossible.

Um, how's 100% literacy impossible? We have it right now here in Finland. TFU might have our populace 10 000 times, but if he uses a crapload of money on education, I don't see how he couldn't do what we can do right now. Just put up a system that's free and mandatory, and you'll have full literacy!

(wow this disscustion really took off bumptry! )

OOC: TFU, are you going to unblock or are you just going to sit there and pretend I don't exist?

Um, how's 100% literacy impossible? We have it right now here in Finland. TFU might have our populace 10 000 times, but if he uses a crapload of money on education, I don't see how he couldn't do what we can do right now. Just put up a system that's free and mandatory, and you'll have full literacy!

He'll have full literacy, but he will also be spending so much money on education that he'll have to neglect other governmental functions. (Like defense.) Especially with those fifty billion people he's got to educate.

It's impossible to have your cake and eat it too in this situation.

He'll have full literacy, but he will also be spending so much money on education that he'll have to neglect other governmental functions. (Like defense.) Especially with those fifty billion people he's got to educate.

It's impossible to have your cake and eat it too in this situation.

My same criticism, he doesn't understnad the sheer scale involved when he has a population of 50 billion, I tried to get it down to 30 but he wouldn't have that, wouldn't benefit his image as a "space power" he said.