NationStates Jolt Archive


Closing the strait(ATTN:RWC)

Chellis
13-12-2004, 08:08
Chellian guns on both sides of the strait of gibraltar readied, the chellian navy in force in the area, and the airforce ready to make strikes quite quickly. A statement was to be made to the international community, and a plan enacted in six hours.

The president stood in front of the camera's, with a flat face, though not grim. "Chellians, Lodossians, and the world. Hear me as you would hear the messanger of a bad tale. Don't shoot.

The RWC has been long hostile to chellis, and NATO which it was in. The reasons we left NATO do not change the fact that we support them, ideologically and physically. They have long threatened us and our allies. We will not stand for this, and the unofficial moves they have been making against allies.

We will be closing the strait of gibraltar to RWC members military ships only. We will still allow all merchant shipping, and non-RWC military ships through. This is an indefinent move.

We will consider opening the strait again, if the RWC is willing to have representatives from the RWC, 5 or so, meet with chellian delegates in Marseilles. The Mediterranean is the only place a successful attack on chellis could really occur, other than some over-land situations."

He straightened out, and got a strange look on his face at this moment. "You owe me for this. You know who you are, and we expect you to return the favor in the future." He said, now having a grim face. He walked away, before reporters could ask questions.
Dumpsterdam
13-12-2004, 08:58
Priority Message to Chellis.

You will be dealt with one way or the other, when the time comes you'll know.

Tanya Rift,
Alpha Colony, the Merchant Guilds
Chellis
13-12-2004, 09:07
Priority Message to Chellis.

You will be dealt with one way or the other, when the time comes you'll know.

Tanya Rift,
Alpha Colony, the Merchant Guilds

Reply:

We shall eagerly await that time, and until then we shall not waver in the wind of shallow threats.
Chellis
13-12-2004, 17:25
Bring Up My Post
Huzen Hagen
13-12-2004, 18:14
Here we go again. Chellis your attempts will only delay any military shipping and may even cause a war. It is you that has always begun the hostilities. Watch where you tread.
Aust
13-12-2004, 18:19
Seeing as my nation is no longer in the RWC, this does not affect us. Still we stand by any nation that says that this is a illigal blockade and wishes to remove it.

Emporer Palpatine.
Zakia
13-12-2004, 18:19
OOC: What Earth is this on? The only Earth Kriegorgrad recognise is Earth II.

IC: We eagerly await the time that Chellis has the nerve to give reason for the Kriegos ships of war to sail proudly over your oceans but until that time, I suggest we keep amiable relations.

We feel that this is a reasonable blockade as you understand the best way to irriate right wing nations is by cutting off the trade route.

Thank you for your reasonable terms.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome
Dr_Twist
13-12-2004, 19:16
As Stated Above Chellis has only Closed the Straight to RWC Naval Shipping, Since Spain is in NWO control the other half of the Straight was closed with Chellis, RWC has no Official Emergency Reason to send Naval Ships Through the Straight so has no Right to ask for Access to the Straight. The Closing of the Straight isn’t Illegal as it hasn’t stopped Civilian Shipping Through the Med. As such, a Force Attempt by RWC to break the Closing of the Straight to RWC vessels will be Seen by NWO and the RBA as a Declaration of war upon the Alliances and there Allies. As in Real Life Nations have to Actually Request Spanish Permission to Cross the Straight if it contains any form of Naval Vessel, As Spain has the right to control Access of naval Vessels Through its Straight, Same goes here with Vizion Controlled Spain and Chellis. It has been legally Closed to RWC Naval Vessels and will not be open to RWC naval Vessels unless there is an Emergency.

Dr_Twist.

This is Earth 1 BTW.
Risban
13-12-2004, 19:59
To the nation of Chellis
The Empire of Risban is a member of the Right Wing Collective, albeit not a very high-ranking one at that. However, Risban would like to promote peace in this matter so that tensions do not boil into a full-fledged war. We are willing to send ambassadors to Chellis and act as a "Middle-man" between the RWC and the Chellian Government.
Please do note that the Empire of Risban has decided this without RWC-consent and offers no assurance that the RWC will support this.
-Alexander Perkins, Imperial High Minister of Foreign Affairs
Grays Hill
13-12-2004, 20:30
As a member of the RWC, Grays Hill is against the blockade. However, we do not feel that this situation should result in a war. We should find a nuetral nation and let them host peace talks between the RWC and Chellis. Hopefully this petty matter can result in peace.
Grays Hill
14-12-2004, 00:38
bump
Chellis
14-12-2004, 05:01
Chellis is fine with whatever RWC nations send men, as long as they are official RWC representatives. We are willing to move the meeting to a neutral nation, if a suitable one is found.

To note, we do not need Vizion's permission, nor anybody's, to close the strait. Controlling Cadiz, gibraltar, and morocco places the strait in our waters and we see it as such. Vizion apparently agree's with this, but no actual permission was asked or needed.

Also, we have only closed the strait to RWC military vessels. Trade vessels from the RWC are let through, though infared scans are made of vessels as they come through the strait(by helicopters, no halt is nessecary for the ships), and if it is obviously carrying military supplies, we will halt it.

Chellis feels this issue can be quickly resolved if the RWC would be quick in sending the delegates, and signing an agreement of sorts. We will show our terms when they arrive.
Canad a
14-12-2004, 05:16
(OCC: The Federal Republic of Canada will support Chellis in closing the gilbrator strait, if you see the FRC and the SROR as the two national powers who operate the Bering Strait and may close it down whenever.)
Grays Hill
14-12-2004, 05:45
Grays Hill would like to be a representative from the RWC.
Pacitalia
14-12-2004, 05:50
As Chellis appears to be supporting the GLNP in their attempts to earn illegal apprehended sovereignty in northeastern Pacitalia, we frown upon this disregard for proper international laws.

Pacitalia is a senior member of the RWC and as such we would like to inquire as to why you have placed this blockade on our members, especially when most if not an enormous majority of the members of the alliance have never been hostile to your nation or your people. RWC ships do not usually sail through the Strait of Gibraltar without a good reason; you have put the blockade on anyway.

We wish to be one of the five moderators to talk with you and figure out a simple, hostile-free solution to this growing incident that we hope does not escalate into war.Vasiliou Bandanaris
Agustinate of International Relations
Chellis
14-12-2004, 05:56
Vasiliou Bandanaris
Agustinate of International Relations

We know nothing of this so called GLNP, but we have no support for it. This we are sure of.

RWC members have proven to be constantly aggresive to chellis, to NATO, and to allies of chellis. We will agree to whatever representatives, as long as RWC recognizes them as representing the RWC alliance.
Pacitalia
14-12-2004, 06:01
OOC: You said you wanted to support the terrorists in my Endgame RP, that's what their organization is called ;)
Chellis
14-12-2004, 06:13
OOC: You said you wanted to support the terrorists in my Endgame RP, that's what their organization is called ;)

OOC: There is a difference between knowing and admitting knowledge.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
14-12-2004, 07:28
"The Empire of Itinerate Tree Dweller will not pursue any confrontation with any NATO nation. ITD has no intention on attacking or being belligerent toward Chellis or NATO. Good Day." - Emperor Erik Kersk -
Vastiva
14-12-2004, 11:11
Vastiva reminds the world at large that Chellis is not a NATO nation at this time.
The Merchant Guilds
14-12-2004, 11:42
OOC: Good point, Vas... i'd forgotten Chellis had quit... thanks for reminding me...

IC:

Again we are saddened by such action, although we support RWC diplomatic intiatives to deal with this situation, we must state that once again Chellis shown their belligerent attitudes to world politics, the world is already currently de-stablised, such action can only lead to war if diplomatic channels are not successful. This is a sad dilemma Chellis has placed the world in...

Regards,

The Shadows,
Moleland
14-12-2004, 11:43
Tag
Belem
14-12-2004, 16:01
Since the Imperial Empire already has naval forces in the Med engaged in wargames in the Med Imperial supply ships will continue to pass through Gilbraltor straigts in order to keep our units in good supply.
Dumpsterdam
14-12-2004, 16:11
A single patrol boat aproached the strait, running at standard cruising speed it started to enter and orderly kept its place behind a freighter vessle.

"This is the DRN Atlantis contacting the gibraltar rock, we are in need of the current weather forecasts for both the strait and the med, please wire those, over."

The patrol boat clearly flew a Dumpsterdanian flag and its crew stood ready to return any fire should the Chellians be utterly blind and deaf.
Chellis
14-12-2004, 17:27
A single patrol boat aproached the strait, running at standard cruising speed it started to enter and orderly kept its place behind a freighter vessle.

"This is the DRN Atlantis contacting the gibraltar rock, we are in need of the current weather forecasts for both the strait and the med, please wire those, over."

The patrol boat clearly flew a Dumpsterdanian flag and its crew stood ready to return any fire should the Chellians be utterly blind and deaf.

6 Helicopters took off, H-1's, armed with a penguin and a 12.7mm machinegun each, as well as their standard 7.62mm machineguns. Twelve Rafale's launched, with Exocets, penguins, and Scalp EG's.

A message was relayed to the dumpsterdam patrol ship. "You may not pass the strait, patrol ship. This is in violation of chellian waters, and we request you turn around now. The freighter may continue."

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Chellis is fine with Belem ships passing through, as long as no men, vehicles, etc are on the ships that pass through as supplies. Ammunition, food, etc we will allow.
Dumpsterdam
14-12-2004, 17:33
Aboard the patrol boat the captain calmly picked up the horn. "Chellian waters? Your point being? I see this freighter and numerous other military ships crossing the strait. We have been aware of blocking the pass to RWC nations, but you might want to give me an explanation runt. "

The freighter was registerd to some back-water third world country and its freight list contained food and oil, the actual cargo.
Aust
14-12-2004, 17:38
An Austian convoy consisting of mainly freighters and 6 escorts began to enter the strait bound for the Austian coloneys in the medterratian.
Chellis
14-12-2004, 17:45
Aboard the patrol boat the captain calmly picked up the horn. "Chellian waters? Your point being? I see this freighter and numerous other military ships crossing the strait. We have been aware of blocking the pass to RWC nations, but you might want to give me an explanation runt. "

The freighter was registerd to some back-water third world country and its freight list contained food and oil, the actual cargo.

"You will turn back or your ship will be destroyed. This is all. You have 60 seconds or so before you are fired upon. Your unallowed entering of chellian waters is a declaration of war upon us as previously made an issue, and we will obliterate your ship."
Chellis
14-12-2004, 17:54
An Austian convoy consisting of mainly freighters and 6 escorts began to enter the strait bound for the Austian coloneys in the medterratian.

"Austian ships, you are violating chellian waters and your escorts will be destroyed. You have 5 minutes to reverse course on the escort ships, or it will be seen as a declaration of war on chellis."

The heavy guns on Gibraltar began preparing to shoot at the austian ships, using satelite data and ship to ship recon to get exact coordinates. The freighters would also be targets if they did not turn back, as it would be a declaration of war against chellis.

24 Rafale's launched into the air, armed exclusivly with Exocets and Mica's(four mica's, four exocets). They would launch the Exocets at 40km from the escorts, 18 missiles at each escort, fired in percision. 12 V-121 bombers also launched with laser-guided bombs, as well as 12 Rafale's with mica's and meteors. The Laser-guided bombs were 5,000 pounders, 14 on each bomber, and would be dropped 28 on each escort. Chellis didn't fool around with this stuff. All actions would be executed in seven minutes, 2 after the 5 minute warning was over. The heavy guns would also begin firing at that moment.
Chellis
14-12-2004, 17:55
OOC: Going to school now, wont be on for like 8 hours, so don't do anything without me responding.
Dumpsterdam
14-12-2004, 18:25
OOC: Going to school now, wont be on for like 8 hours, so don't do anything without me responding.

OoC: *does something*

IC:

The patrol boat halted, its engines running on reverse 1/16 as the captain once again hailed Gibraltar. "I'm not entirely sure if you know that we are no longer a part of the RWC, but now you do. I see no reason to not pass the strait, no offensive actions have even been taken against Chellis by DAF assets and to link us to our allies within the RWC is folly."
Bob-Bob
14-12-2004, 19:07
His Majesties government would like to inform the French Republic that any aggressive action taken to any British shipping through the Straights of Gibralter will be regarded as an act of war. All shipping WILL continue regardless of the fact of all French guns being “activated”.

As a result the British second fleet will be escorting the fifty first Merchant convoy through the straights. If one ship is harmed ALL British forces will commit a full scale invasion of all French holdings in Europe and Africa.

This is your one and only warning.

In anticipation of French arrogance, every ship in the Royal Navy is being put to see. Long range Guns in Dover and the south of England are being prepared and all Regiments are being recalled from passive duty.

This can either be an expensive training exercise or a war. It is up to Chellis.
Aust
14-12-2004, 20:49
"Austian ships, you are violating chellian waters and your escorts will be destroyed. You have 5 minutes to reverse course on the escort ships, or it will be seen as a declaration of war on chellis."

The heavy guns on Gibraltar began preparing to shoot at the austian ships, using satelite data and ship to ship recon to get exact coordinates. The freighters would also be targets if they did not turn back, as it would be a declaration of war against chellis.

24 Rafale's launched into the air, armed exclusivly with Exocets and Mica's(four mica's, four exocets). They would launch the Exocets at 40km from the escorts, 18 missiles at each escort, fired in percision. 12 V-121 bombers also launched with laser-guided bombs, as well as 12 Rafale's with mica's and meteors. The Laser-guided bombs were 5,000 pounders, 14 on each bomber, and would be dropped 28 on each escort. Chellis didn't fool around with this stuff. All actions would be executed in seven minutes, 2 after the 5 minute warning was over. The heavy guns would also begin firing at that moment.
"We wish to know why you are stopping us. We shall stop our movement as we wait for explanation. We are not a member of the RWC. Over" The ships stopped in the water.
Wolfish
14-12-2004, 20:55
Three Wolfish Battlegroups, Third Navy (Atlantic), are moving in position to support Chellis and the closure of the Med. to the RWC and its allies.
Independent Hitmen
14-12-2004, 21:18
IHS Raven Sea, Somewhere in the North Atlantic

A young naval officer strode into the CIC from the radio room of the carrier. He moved quickly towards Admiral Tomlinson commanding Task Force 62, proudly wearing the baseball cap displaying that fact on his head.

“Sir, urgent message from CINCLANT for you.”

“Thank you Commander” the Admiral responded to the man.

He scanned the message, and immediately got up and headed to the bridge where the ships Captain was watching flight operations with the commander of the escorts for the task force.

As the Admiral walked into the bridge all present came to attention, however he quickly replied “at ease”

“Captain, we have orders from CINCLANT.” He acknowledged the escort commander, also a Captain although Junior to the carrier commander.

“Taskforce 62 is to proceed at flank speed to Phase Line Alpha at point Horatio. ROE remain constant. Detailed orders to follow.”

The men shared a look. They knew that point Horatio was about 100 miles directly West of the straights of Gibraltar and they had seen on CNN that the waterways had been closed off recently whilst trouble was brewing in the Med and Northern Europe.

“Captain, inform your escorts that we will come to a heading of 85 degrees at 1230 hours. Commander, inform Periocles and Hermes that we shall be turning, commence full air operations and get an ASW picket line set up infront of us.”

With a chorus of “Aye aye’s” the men went to work.


At 1230hours exactly the large carriers began turning to follow the escorts that were now orienting themselves towards the East, whilst aircraft were launched into the wind that now blew over the decks from front to back.


OOC: Basically heading to a point West of the straights were it can hang around if needed in the Med. Carriers are 2 Nimitz and 1 Periocles (198 aircraft) with assorted escorts and support ships.
Grays Hill
14-12-2004, 23:07
Once again, as a member of RWC, I urge the RWC to come to terms with Chellis. Grays Hill would condem any military action taken by either side. We would like to push the issue of a multi-nation Conference so that the nation of Chellis, and its allies, may strike a deal with the RWC.
The Great Sixth Reich
14-12-2004, 23:09
OOC:

Ignored as we only recognize Earth V and Earth BC for economic traffic. (Jonothana has Spain in Earth V, and he lets our ships through)
Wirraway
14-12-2004, 23:19
Unfortunatly for you Chellis unless you own Morrocco you can't close the straits. Morrocan territorial waters extend into it so my navy and other RWC navies will be passing through, albiet in Morrocan waters not yours. Therefore, if you wish to close the entire strait you'll have invade sovreign Morrocan waters, something that most nations won't look kindly upon. Naval assets are en-route to pass through Morrocan waters and into the Med. Concurrently we do not recognize your purported closure of the strait.

OOC: My nation is based in the Benelux countries and since you RP France Chellis, I assume you know where and what these are.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 00:47
Unfortunatly for you Chellis unless you own Morrocco you can't close the straits. Morrocan territorial waters extend into it so my navy and other RWC navies will be passing through, albiet in Morrocan waters not yours. Therefore, if you wish to close the entire strait you'll have invade sovreign Morrocan waters, something that most nations won't look kindly upon. Naval assets are en-route to pass through Morrocan waters and into the Med. Concurrently we do not recognize your purported closure of the strait.

OOC: My nation is based in the Benelux countries and since you RP France Chellis, I assume you know where and what these are.


OOC: I dont RP as france. I RP as chellis, who controls France, along with Gibraltar, Cadiz(the southernmost province of spain), Morocco, many african nations, and my homeland of Chellis.

Actually, I only have military forces in northern morocco to be honest. After VL left NS, I occupied his territories to stop them from being taken. Most of morocco, save a little bit of the north, is self-government. I just control that area, giving me control of the waters of the strait.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 00:48
OOC:

Ignored as we only recognize Earth V and Earth BC for economic traffic. (Jonothana has Spain in Earth V, and he lets our ships through)

OOC: Do as you want. Dr.twist and many others you are facing recognize this however, and will ignore you if you ignore me.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 00:51
"We wish to know why you are stopping us. We shall stop our movement as we wait for explanation. We are not a member of the RWC. Over" The ships stopped in the water.

"As far as my understanding is, you are either still a suspected member of the RWC and just not publically one, or you are a member of the forces helping fight Automagfreek. Either way, I have Aust on the list of nations not to let through. If you can shed light that both of these are wrong, I will contact higher authorities and see what the reason is."
Chellis
15-12-2004, 00:55
OoC: *does something*

IC:

The patrol boat halted, its engines running on reverse 1/16 as the captain once again hailed Gibraltar. "I'm not entirely sure if you know that we are no longer a part of the RWC, but now you do. I see no reason to not pass the strait, no offensive actions have even been taken against Chellis by DAF assets and to link us to our allies within the RWC is folly."

OOC: As long as its something that I have a chance to respond to, like this, that was fine.

IC: "We are aware of your reported leave of the RWC. However, the fact that you are in war with good allies of ours, such as Automagfreek, must be the reason you are on the list of nations banned from the water-way. As far as I know, nothing was sent to your nation telling you of this, so perhaps the boat can be let through, as a one time thing. You would be required to relay the message of non-passage to your government, however."
Chellis
15-12-2004, 00:59
His Majesties government would like to inform the French Republic that any aggressive action taken to any British shipping through the Straights of Gibralter will be regarded as an act of war. All shipping WILL continue regardless of the fact of all French guns being “activated”.

As a result the British second fleet will be escorting the fifty first Merchant convoy through the straights. If one ship is harmed ALL British forces will commit a full scale invasion of all French holdings in Europe and Africa.

This is your one and only warning.

In anticipation of French arrogance, every ship in the Royal Navy is being put to see. Long range Guns in Dover and the south of England are being prepared and all Regiments are being recalled from passive duty.

This can either be an expensive training exercise or a war. It is up to Chellis.


OOC: You keep saying french republic, etc. Are you talking about me? We are neither french nor a republic. We are chellis, who controls France, along with many other lands.

IC: Chellis cares not about idiotic threats from Bob-bob. It doesn't even need the strait as a life-line. It is provoking this conflict for the sake of provokation, and if your ships cross into chellian waters, the ships will be sank accordingly. It will be a declaration of war.

You may not want to threaten the most powerful nation in the world, but alas, its your choice. We would have fun killing every man, woman, and child from england to scotland. This is your one and only warning, the first ship to cross our waters will be the first ship to die.
The Great Sixth Reich
15-12-2004, 01:02
OOC: Do as you want. Dr.twist and many others you are facing recognize this however, and will ignore you if you ignore me.

OOC: That does not make much sense... Dr. Twist would ignore any help I send him in the future? (I'm also a NWO Member (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7611231&postcount=145) )

And I think you misunderstand what I saying. I was just saying that I have deals with Jonothana, who owns Spain in my view/earth, to use the same strait you say you are closing, so I would have to ignore the closing of the strait, but I would never ignore your country.
Tyrandis
15-12-2004, 01:06
Official Statement from the Department of Foreign Affairs

"Due to the escalating tensions in the Mediterranean Sea, the Imperium announces its formal support for the internationally recognized actions of Chellis.

As the Strait of Gibraltar is part of Chellian territorial waters, the Chellian govt. clearly has the right to close passage to any nation it deems necessary. While one may complain that these actions seriously hinder international trade, the laws of national sovereignity supercede any and all economic concerns.

To this end, we offer our diplomatic support to the Chellian government. Furthermore, we wish that all affected nations refrain from rash actions that could potentially provoke a disastrous war."
Chellis
15-12-2004, 01:23
OOC: That does not make much sense... Dr. Twist would ignore any help I send him in the future? (I'm also a NWO Member (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7611231&postcount=145) )

And I think you misunderstand what I saying. I was just saying that I have deals with Jonothana, who owns Spain in my view/earth, to use the same strait you say you are closing, so I would have to ignore the closing of the strait, but I would never ignore your country.

If you dont recognize my territory, I dont recognize you.

And when I said you before, I meant RWC.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 01:24
Official Statement from the Department of Foreign Affairs

"Due to the escalating tensions in the Mediterranean Sea, the Imperium announces its formal support for the internationally recognized actions of Chellis.

As the Strait of Gibraltar is part of Chellian territorial waters, the Chellian govt. clearly has the right to close passage to any nation it deems necessary. While one may complain that these actions seriously hinder international trade, the laws of national sovereignity supercede any and all economic concerns.

To this end, we offer our diplomatic support to the Chellian government. Furthermore, we wish that all affected nations refrain from rash actions that could potentially provoke a disastrous war."

Chellis thanks Tyrandis for its support, and wishes to say that RWC shipping is still allowed through, just not military ships or ships carrying military supplies. So it doesn't really hinder international trade.
Belem
15-12-2004, 01:27
Since fellow RWC members requested this Belem will send a representative to discuss the closings.
Wirraway
15-12-2004, 01:31
Since we are not a nation to jump to war, we now ask what Chellis requests in return for a re-opening of the Straits. We will consider your requests and formulate our decision.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 01:38
Chellis will give its terms at a conference. Once the RWC has five representatives to send, we will accept them. We dont care who they are, as long as they firmly represent the RWC. This is theirs to take care of.
Belem
15-12-2004, 01:45
ooc: since I just kinda skimmed the thread and I just got the Tgram about sending a rep 10 minutes ago. Who else is sending reps?
The Great Sixth Reich
15-12-2004, 01:49
If you dont recognize my territory, I dont recognize you.

And when I said you before, I meant RWC.

OOC:

That's it. Now I'm really confused... :headbang:

As I have no clue what we were talking about.

I do recognize you as I just said, but...... nevermind. Good night.

(I seriously I have no clue about what happened here with this "ignore you" "ignore me" stuff.)
Grays Hill
15-12-2004, 02:24
Chellis will give its terms at a conference. Once the RWC has five representatives to send, we will accept them. We dont care who they are, as long as they firmly represent the RWC. This is theirs to take care of.

Grays Hill will gladly send a representative to represent the RWC

OOC: After all, I worked my butt off to get these conferences ;)
Dr_Twist
15-12-2004, 04:41
OOC: That does not make much sense... Dr. Twist would ignore any help I send him in the future? (I'm also a NWO Member (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7611231&postcount=145) )

And I think you misunderstand what I saying. I was just saying that I have deals with Jonothana, who owns Spain in my view/earth, to use the same strait you say you are closing, so I would have to ignore the closing of the strait, but I would never ignore your country.

OCC: Let me Clear this up, Vizion a Fellow NWO Member Owns Spain, Chellis Owns Gibraltar and Morocco, As such NWO has agreed to closing the Straight with Chellis and will Reinforce it.
Communist Louisiana
15-12-2004, 04:53
Communist Louisiana supports the actions taken by Chellis. We will follow the same by closing the safe cannels into the Gulf of Mexico located in CL territory and we will talk to our allies in the area to support us.

We believe it is time to stand against the imperialist in the RWC and their methods. If conflicts arise, we will not hesitate to help members of the NWO and the RBA.

Premier Daniel Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Dr_Twist
15-12-2004, 04:58
Communist Louisiana supports the actions taken by Chellis. We will follow the same by closing the safe cannels into the Gulf of Mexico located in CL territory and we will talk to our allies in the area to support us.

We believe it is time to stand against the imperialist in the RWC and their methods. If conflicts arise, we will not hesitate to help members of the NWO and the RBA.

Premier Daniel Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL

OCC: Thank you Communist Louisiana, This is very Much Appreciated as NWO and RBA Forces From around the Globe Continue to Mobilize to Europe for the Up coming war, Hindering RWC's Mobilization and Supply lines Helps majorly.
The Merchant Guilds
15-12-2004, 10:58
IC:

We will send a representative to help sort out this unfortunate situation.

Regards,

The Shadows,
Belem
15-12-2004, 16:13
ooc: ok thats five whats your offer chellis.
Chellis
15-12-2004, 17:17
ooc: ok thats five whats your offer chellis.

OOC: Belem, remember what roleplay is?

IC: If the RWC recognizes the 5 delegates as representing them, we will await their arrival in Marseilles, where they will be brought to the discussion area(I will make a thread when I get back from school today).
Aust
15-12-2004, 19:18
"As far as my understanding is, you are either still a suspected member of the RWC and just not publically one, or you are a member of the forces helping fight Automagfreek. Either way, I have Aust on the list of nations not to let through. If you can shed light that both of these are wrong, I will contact higher authorities and see what the reason is."
"We are no longer a member of the RWC, and we have not been for some time. We resigned due to the fact that we balived that we could not support the RWC's members genocide or there refusal to support Dumpsterdam. To this day we are not offically at war with AMF, we have had tensions with him but we are not at war."

"We wait for your responce. We need to supply our coloneys in the medterranian though."
Grays Hill
15-12-2004, 21:27
Grays Hill will be sending the Secretary of State, Beau Bamburg. His plane has already taken off, heading towards Marseilles. He should arrive in a few hours.

Hopefully Grays Hill's diplomatic intentions will set an example to all who have closed Straights and Canals across the world.
Belem
15-12-2004, 23:58
el bumpo
Wirraway
16-12-2004, 00:20
We will send a representative to this conference as we have a large interest in the proceedings.
Chellis
16-12-2004, 01:00
"We are no longer a member of the RWC, and we have not been for some time. We resigned due to the fact that we balived that we could not support the RWC's members genocide or there refusal to support Dumpsterdam. To this day we are not offically at war with AMF, we have had tensions with him but we are not at war."

"We wait for your responce. We need to supply our coloneys in the medterranian though."

"Your supply ships may go through, your military ones may not. Your support for Dumpsterdam is the reason for your non-permittance."
Ramissle
16-12-2004, 01:07
The Incorperation of Ramissle would like to take this oppertunity to invite Chellis to a meeting of WTO members and those who control importaint waterways on Saturday, December 18th. Your imput is required to make an informed decision. Thank you.
Chellis
16-12-2004, 01:15
We have commented on the situation.
Ramissle
16-12-2004, 01:34
OOC: Sorry, didn't see that.
IC:
The WTO delegates of Ramissle assures Chellisian leaders that this meeting is simply to create a council that will look into regulating trade through certain straits, and how this will happen/ if it will, and that it would be in best intrest of Chellis and all if they went to this meeting. No ruling will ever be made to make your nation relinquish any control over the strait.
Chellis
16-12-2004, 01:40
OOC: Sorry, didn't see that.
IC:
The WTO delegates of Ramissle assures Chellisian leaders that this meeting is simply to create a council that will look into regulating trade through certain straits, and how this will happen/ if it will, and that it would be in best intrest of Chellis and all if they went to this meeting. No ruling will ever be made to make your nation relinquish any control over the strait.

Chellis is happy with how things are now. We see no reason to put any effort into something like this.
Grays Hill
16-12-2004, 01:45
The Grays Hill representative, Beau Bamburg, has arrived in Merseilles. When shall the talks commence?
Chellis
16-12-2004, 01:52
The Grays Hill representative, Beau Bamburg, has arrived in Merseilles. When shall the talks commence?

As soon as the five members arrive.

Thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7717101
Pacitalia
16-12-2004, 02:01
OOC: Who are the five delegates? Well, four, since Grays Hill is one.
Chellis
16-12-2004, 02:02
OOC: Who are the five delegates? Well, four, since Grays Hill is one.

OOC: I dont know. Belem said they have five, so whoever the RWC has chosen.
Grays Hill
16-12-2004, 02:45
OOC: Ok, i posted there.
Aust
16-12-2004, 17:19
"Your supply ships may go through, your military ones may not. Your support for Dumpsterdam is the reason for your non-permittance."
" We wish to have a peoper reason for why they may not go through. Though we have said we have supported Dumpsterdam we are not openly at war with any enermy or allie of yours. You should not stop us over one statement."

"Our ships will continue, if you attack them it's a act of war."

the autian ships moters started up again.
The Merchant Guilds
16-12-2004, 17:20
OOC: I dont know. Belem said they have five, so whoever the RWC has chosen.

OOC: Doesn't matter Chellis... shall we get on with it? :)
Wolfish
16-12-2004, 17:23
" We wish to have a peoper reason for why they may not go through. Though we have said we have supported Dumpsterdam we are not openly at war with any enermy or allie of yours. You should not stop us over one statement."

"Our ships will continue, if you attack them it's a act of war."

the autian ships moters started up again.

The Government of Wolfish advises Aust against this hostile action. By forcing warships through an embargoed passage you are merely provoking action. Your simple and peaceful solution is to simply allow the cargo ships to proceed without military involvement.
Aust
16-12-2004, 17:41
The Government of Wolfish advises Aust against this hostile action. By forcing warships through an embargoed passage you are merely provoking action. Your simple and peaceful solution is to simply allow the cargo ships to proceed without military involvement.
We do not see this blockade as legal, why should we have to avoided supplying our coloneys and from renforceing them and letting over ships go to other dutys just because some nation dosn't like a single statement we made.

There first reason was that we are a RWC member, we are not. There second was that we are allied to the RWC, we are not. There third was that we are at war with AMF, we are not. They keep finding excuses to stop us.

In doing this they are sopping hundreds of sailors from reurning home on leave. We will go around the other way next time however just for these ships we shall go this way.
Chellis
16-12-2004, 17:49
" We wish to have a peoper reason for why they may not go through. Though we have said we have supported Dumpsterdam we are not openly at war with any enermy or allie of yours. You should not stop us over one statement."

"Our ships will continue, if you attack them it's a act of war."

the autian ships moters started up again.

"You have 60 seconds to stop, at which time you will pass into chellian waters which is a declaration of war upon chellis, as we do not give you permission to pass. We will start our attack as soon as you do such, so it is your choice. Have a nice day."

The planes were in position, they had littered in the air for a few minutes as the discussion had occured.
Dumpsterdam
16-12-2004, 17:55
The captain of the patrol boat sighed. "We opperate two freaking patrol boats on both sides, if we go through now we cannot go back. Is there anyone I can talk too to make an agreement on this?"

The captain orderd the helmsmen to start turning the ship around and back 1:8 forward towards the atlantic.
Grays Hill
16-12-2004, 21:56
Grays Hill urges all nations to not go near the Straight until the talks are done with and the situation is all cleared up.
Chellis
17-12-2004, 00:34
The captain of the patrol boat sighed. "We opperate two freaking patrol boats on both sides, if we go through now we cannot go back. Is there anyone I can talk too to make an agreement on this?"

The captain orderd the helmsmen to start turning the ship around and back 1:8 forward towards the atlantic.

"If you let us send an escort with your ships, to make sure they don't land military supplies, then we can let you throughm and back out."
Aust
18-12-2004, 13:35
"You have 60 seconds to stop, at which time you will pass into chellian waters which is a declaration of war upon chellis, as we do not give you permission to pass. We will start our attack as soon as you do such, so it is your choice. Have a nice day."

The planes were in position, they had littered in the air for a few minutes as the discussion had occured.
The Austian ships stopped, a couple of meters away from Chellian waters.

"Again we ask for ecplination why do you try to stop us."

On the Austian Island fortress of Baliares, a fullwing of aircraft took off heading towards the straiit and a fleet of ships began to steam towards the strait.
Grays Hill
18-12-2004, 17:23
Grays Hill strongly urges Aust to turn its ships and planes around. This aggressive action will result in a massive and bloody war, with mass losses on both sides. If war erupts, over this petty matter, then Grays Hill will not fight. We will remain completely nuetral and aid neither Aust, or anybody else that attacks him, or Chellis.
Aust
18-12-2004, 17:53
Grays Hill strongly urges Aust to turn its ships and planes around. This aggressive action will result in a massive and bloody war, with mass losses on both sides. If war erupts, over this petty matter, then Grays Hill will not fight. We will remain completely nuetral and aid neither Aust, or anybody else that attacks him, or Chellis.
We are not going to attack, we are just making sure we are prepared, should Chellis do anything rash.
Chellis
18-12-2004, 19:30
The Austian ships stopped, a couple of meters away from Chellian waters.

"Again we ask for ecplination why do you try to stop us."

On the Austian Island fortress of Baliares, a fullwing of aircraft took off heading towards the straiit and a fleet of ships began to steam towards the strait.

"You are on the list of nations not to let through. Stop now, or be destroyed."
Chellis
18-12-2004, 19:47
-CHN Raptor, providing reconnaisance over the Cartega-Oran line.-

The ship had been active for a while, with the Gibraltar crisis going on. Recon ships along the line were using Regular radar, Passive radar, and Cell-phone radiation detection, with the help of buoy's that produced it, along the line. It wasn't good for much detection, but it would detect anything that flew through the line.

However, the Raptor didn't need it this time. Radar picked up the aircraft, and through a priority channel relay to command, he got his orders. Which were to keep an eye on them.

At both Oran and Melilla, I-4's and Rafale's were scrambled. In all, over 300 aircraft got into the air, as the aircraft underground were brought up for another wave, if needed. They were first-response aircraft. The Rafale's were armed with 6 Mica, four Meteor, and two Droptanks. The I-4's were armed with drop-tanks, two Mica's, and four Aim-152's. Chellian ships, well dispersed in the area, kept a constant lock on the Austian planes, so the I-4's could fire at any time at range. The Chellian planes were quick to scramble, and follow close behind the Austian planes, while SAMs from Chellian ships, and longer range ones from Gibraltar, Morocco, and Cadiz went online.
Grays Hill
18-12-2004, 20:37
Once again we very strongly urge Aust to call back his forces and stand down. We also urge all other nations to not attack.
Aust
20-12-2004, 10:13
The Austian planes and ships, turned and began back to the Island Fortress. The islands AA guns and SAM battreys began to lock on to the Chellian planes, there was enough firepower on the ground and the ships to destroy the enermy air amarder.

The Austian F/A25B ACTIVE Hound, turned to face the enermy planes while the bombers made there way back to base. Currently there where 2 wings of fighter and 1 of bomber aircraft in the air, a total of 300 planes.

They where ready to fight.

OOC: Specs for a Hound:
Specs-

Speed- Mach 3.2 (supercruise mach 2.1)
Armament-1 GAU 9 25mm cannon, two side bays (one missile each, sidewinders), one main bay (eight missiles each, AMRAAM, AXRAAM, Sidewinder, JDAM)
Ceiling- 90,000 feet
Engine-1 DDI T901 Pulse-detonation/turbofan hybrid(40,000 pounds of thrust)
Vectored thrust- 3D
Air-to-air refueling- Yes
Length- 57 feet
Wingspan-36 feet
Range-1600 nautical miles (combat), 3400 nautical miles(transport)
Countermeasures- Chaff/flare pod, IFF systems, 4 electronic disturbance pods
Ejection system- ACES II
Radar- AN/APG-90
Bob-Bob
09-01-2005, 03:58
OOC: You keep saying french republic, etc. Are you talking about me? We are neither french nor a republic. We are chellis, who controls France, along with many other lands.

IC: Chellis cares not about idiotic threats from Bob-bob. It doesn't even need the strait as a life-line. It is provoking this conflict for the sake of provokation, and if your ships cross into chellian waters, the ships will be sank accordingly. It will be a declaration of war.

You may not want to threaten the most powerful nation in the world, but alas, its your choice. We would have fun killing every man, woman, and child from england to scotland. This is your one and only warning, the first ship to cross our waters will be the first ship to die.

OOC: Now i'm digging up an old thread but i must as its been nagging at me. I left for the Christmas holidays before i got a chance to reply.

IC: His Majesty King George is appalled at the apparent lack of intelligence open to the Chellis government. The British Empire holds vast territories in Asia such as China, Mongolia and Japan. As such the straits of Gibraltar are a necessary life line to the colonies, regarding merchant and military supplies. This apparent, random act only serves to cause problems and endanger the worlds economy. The fleet will continue its present course for Gibraltar.
Doomingsland
09-01-2005, 04:08
OOC:Hehehe, Aust is using my fighter without even telling me. You messed up a bit on the specs, it's got two engines, both with 40,000 pounds of thrust, and you left out the important stuff (like the optic camo).
Chellis
09-01-2005, 05:51
OOC: Now i'm digging up an old thread but i must as its been nagging at me. I left for the Christmas holidays before i got a chance to reply.

IC: His Majesty King George is appalled at the apparent lack of intelligence open to the Chellis government. The British Empire holds vast territories in Asia such as China, Mongolia and Japan. As such the straits of Gibraltar are a necessary life line to the colonies, regarding merchant and military supplies. This apparent, random act only serves to cause problems and endanger the worlds economy. The fleet will continue its present course for Gibraltar.

OOC: I ignore your earth claims.
Chellis
09-01-2005, 05:55
The Austian planes and ships, turned and began back to the Island Fortress. The islands AA guns and SAM battreys began to lock on to the Chellian planes, there was enough firepower on the ground and the ships to destroy the enermy air amarder.

The Austian F/A25B ACTIVE Hound, turned to face the enermy planes while the bombers made there way back to base. Currently there where 2 wings of fighter and 1 of bomber aircraft in the air, a total of 300 planes.

They where ready to fight.

OOC: Specs for a Hound:
Specs-

Speed- Mach 3.2 (supercruise mach 2.1)
Armament-1 GAU 9 25mm cannon, two side bays (one missile each, sidewinders), one main bay (eight missiles each, AMRAAM, AXRAAM, Sidewinder, JDAM)
Ceiling- 90,000 feet
Engine-1 DDI T901 Pulse-detonation/turbofan hybrid(40,000 pounds of thrust)
Vectored thrust- 3D
Air-to-air refueling- Yes
Length- 57 feet
Wingspan-36 feet
Range-1600 nautical miles (combat), 3400 nautical miles(transport)
Countermeasures- Chaff/flare pod, IFF systems, 4 electronic disturbance pods
Ejection system- ACES II
Radar- AN/APG-90

As the Austian planes turned back, so did the chellian ones. There was no reason to provoke, if they did not run the strait.
Aust
09-01-2005, 11:17
OOC:Hehehe, Aust is using my fighter without even telling me. You messed up a bit on the specs, it's got two engines, both with 40,000 pounds of thrust, and you left out the important stuff (like the optic camo).
OOC: I thought that was a RWC fighter.
Guffingford
09-01-2005, 11:57
OOC: I ignore your earth claims. Let's play the same game with you. It it logical that the British (Bob-Bob has gotten the land from TROUSRS via me ask him if you want) let you take Gribraltar without a fight while Gribraltar is 100 percent part of the United Kingdom? It would be quite the same situation as Argentinia tried to take the Falkland Isles now isn't it?

PS: Since this thread has [ATTN: RWC] in it's title there's nowhere the note I shouldn't be allowed in. After all, I founded the RWC.
Bob-Bob
09-01-2005, 16:26
How arrogant and foolish of you. I have roleplayed taking all of my territories, in fact I have made several threads and put a weeks work worth of work into each one, whereas you simply claim them and expect people to accept it. If anyone has the right to ignore, it is me. As for you claiming British territory, I’m claiming Godmode on your part. You never gave the defending nation who owned Gibraltar the chance to Rp its defence. Be that me or TROUSERS.

Why do you Ignore me. Is it because I counter your moves every time? Is it because I deem your nation French because they are in France? That is my perspective and a foolish and unjust reason to ignore someone. So Chellis tell us all why you ignore me…..
Chellis
09-01-2005, 20:06
How arrogant and foolish of you. I have roleplayed taking all of my territories, in fact I have made several threads and put a weeks work worth of work into each one, whereas you simply claim them and expect people to accept it. If anyone has the right to ignore, it is me. As for you claiming British territory, I’m claiming Godmode on your part. You never gave the defending nation who owned Gibraltar the chance to Rp its defence. Be that me or TROUSERS.

Why do you Ignore me. Is it because I counter your moves every time? Is it because I deem your nation French because they are in France? That is my perspective and a foolish and unjust reason to ignore someone. So Chellis tell us all why you ignore me…..

A. I didn't just claim my territories. Maybe you are too young to know about my history, but I have RPed taking every one.

B. You have never applied to be put on earth one, so I don't accept your claims.

C. I took Gibraltar from Verbotten lufftwaffe when he left NS, he got it from Matich, and I don't remember where Matich got it from, but I put it on my list as a valid claim, so he got it legitly.

Call it godmode if you want. I have already told you I don't accept your landclaims.
Guffingford
09-01-2005, 21:16
C. I took Gibraltar from Verbotten lufftwaffe when he left NS, he got it from Matich, and I don't remember where Matich got it from, but I put it on my list as a valid claim, so he got it legitly.
Protest. TROUSRS owned the UK and therefore he owned Gribraltar. Spain, Morocco and Portugal clearly aren't UK you know. And you did took it RP wise, but since realism tells the world you cannot take British territory (Bob-Bob in this case) without fighting the claim is seriously contested - if not completely unrealistic.

I am not going to contest any other of your personal claims, just gribraltar because it's highly unlogic you can own it without heavy resistance from British side. Just to point out, Verbotten Luftewaffe took over the nation Matich and thus his claims. I don't know where you get it from that Western Asia owns the Azores since VB gave those to HP - check your thread. Yes you owned the Spanish province of Cadiz but you drew back to underline your desire for peace. The Macabees got Spain after a lot of hassle, and there's where the RP's ended. Nothing has changed after that.

Chellis, you know my position this and I call this discussion ended. In my book the UK owns Gribraltar, and what does it matter? You own Morocco and The Macabees owns Spain.

SINCE THE LEADER OF THE RWC IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS 'RP' I ADVISE ALL (ex) RWC MEMBERS TO IGNORE THIS 'RP'.
Chellis
09-01-2005, 21:20
Protest. TROUSRS owned the UK and therefore he owned Gribraltar. Spain, Morocco and Portugal clearly aren't UK you know. And you did took it RP wise, but since realism tells the world you cannot take British territory (Bob-Bob in this case) without fighting the claim is seriously contested - if not completely unrealistic.

I am not going to contest any other of your personal claims, just gribraltar because it's highly unlogic you can own it without heavy resistance from British side. Just to point out, Verbotten Luftewaffe took over the nation Matich and thus his claims. I don't know where you get it from that Western Asia owns the Azores since VB gave those to HP - check your thread. Yes you owned the Spanish province of Cadiz but you drew back to underline your desire for peace. The Macabees got Spain after a lot of hassle, and there's where the RP's ended. Nothing has changed after that.

Chellis, you know my position this and I call this discussion ended. In my book the UK owns Gribraltar, and what does it matter? You own Morocco and The Macabees owns Spain.

Leave my thread.
Borman Empire
09-01-2005, 22:42
tag
Western Asia
10-01-2005, 20:15
I don't know where you get it from that Western Asia owns the Azores since VB gave those to HP - check your thread. Yes you owned the Spanish province of Cadiz but you drew back to underline your desire for peace. The Macabees got Spain after a lot of hassle, and there's where the RP's ended. Nothing has changed after that.

Chellis, you know my position this and I call this discussion ended. In my book the UK owns Gribraltar, and what does it matter? You own Morocco and The Macabees owns Spain.

OOC:

Guffingford,
Western Asia gained the Azores, Madeira, Canary, and St. Helena island chains in a series of RPs a few months back (early/mid last summer at latest, if I remember correctly). The claims were made clearly in several threads (which included other nations in RP and as commentators) and, at the request of the operator of the nation claims thread, I "bumped" the threads that stated my claims several times over more than a month and they were never reasonably contested. The Canaries were given their freedom (as an independant, unclaimed (playerless) nation) and were subsequently occupied by Daylam. I regained several of the islands with the fall of the Daylami empire (as well as gaining control of Iran "in my book" and N. Afghanistan/Kashmir (which I am currently "moving towards self-government" for the sake of future RPs)).