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Name says it all. I need to work a little on my military hardware but i'll be posted here soon. I think... Also, there will be NO FIGHTING OR ATTACKING until I am back after Christmas

EDIT: date changed.

How many sad people will be posting on NS on christmas eve?

Well, me probably.

taggity tag

Erm... HP you need to change the date. Unless you're really planning on starting next week on Xmas eve.

Mormanguise... I probably will be on for a bit between the crap Christmas TV, mince pies and hurridly wrapping presents for relatives, I haven't seen since Y year...

How many sad people will be posting on NS on christmas eve?

Well, me probably.Not me! It's just that I work from monday till thursday and on saturday evenings... Times table sucks but the pay is quite alright.

Twist, if we limit it, we can have an enjoyable RP. Besides, this could be really fun as I think others will agree... so lets keep it fun... not descending into ignores shall we?

According to Independent Hitmen's RL claims thread, Italy belongs to you. It's very easy to start throwing off your nations to people who want to defend you. I wasn't there when The Macabees wanted to take Spain (again) I have no clue who was involved or what happened and this RP is in no way linked to that particular one whatsoever. Also, this RP will be closed, since I ignore all dogpiles after the super fun Fluffywuffy/Iron Blood & company debacle.

My words are final.

Mormanguise... are those 2 million soldiers purely conscripts...?

I assume if they are they're not going to be very effective against a lot of trained soldiery. But hell it should be interesting and fun to have to contend with untold numbers...

According to Independent Hitmen's RL claims thread, Italy belongs to you. It's very easy to start throwing off your nations to people who want to defend you. I wasn't there when The Macabees wanted to take Spain (again) I have no clue who was involved or what happened and this RP is in no way linked to that particular one whatsoever. Also, this RP will be closed, since I ignore all dogpiles after the super fun Fluffywuffy/Iron Blood & company debacle.

My words are final.

OOC:That list is incomplete, as i havnt modified it for I dont know how long (thanx for reminding me about it btw)

I also think that Christmas Eve is a silly time to start this, how about 26th?? Its a sunday i know, but it should be better for most people!

Also good, guess I missed the date on my calender http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/images/icons/icon11.gif

Mormanguise... are those 2 million soldiers purely conscripts...?

I assume if they are they're not going to be very effective against a lot of trained soldiery. But hell it should be interesting and fun to have to contend with untold numbers...

The bulk of the infantry, that is to say the plebs, are something of conscripts*. The tank drivers, pilots and officers etc. are obviously proffesionals. My army is not perfect by any sense of the word, it makes it more interesting.


*They are conscripts in a sense, but they are also members of the peoples militia, and so have some military training.

How many sad people will be posting on NS on christmas eve?

Well, me probably.

Me to.

Of course i'll be making posts in between beating my cousins in multiplayer of whatever games they got for christmas, or failing them getting any good multiplayer games I'll just go back to beating them in Smash Brothers Melee.

Me to.

Of course i'll be making posts in between beating my cousins in multiplayer of whatever games they got for christmas, or failing them getting any good multiplayer games I'll just go back to beating them in Smash Brothers Melee.

Your life sounds suspiciously like mine, you're not my cousin are you?

INFANTRY
A total of 11 million troops are going to be used for this war including most logistical means. The organization of each army is exactly the same unless states otherwise. Aeral battlegroups and naval battlegroups will follow shortly.

EVERYTHING STATED BELOW IS PART OF THE ARMY.
1 million troops divided in 100 regiments (10,000 men strong) with those devided in 1000 groups (1000 men strong)

NOT INCLUDED IN THE ARMIES
Standard medical batallion - 380,000 medics and support (jeeps with extra medical supplies)
Standard explosive batallion - 20,000 demolition experts (heavy bombings, no regular explosions, usually in cooperation with SpecOps.)
Food & Clothing dept - 30,000 cooks/tailors
Fueling dept - 50,000 men refueling of all motorized vehicles (magament of oil and gas supplies and organizes delivery)

The units not included in the armies will be organized into more specific groups with soldiers each assigned with a single task on the field.

ORDERS OF KNIGHTS
I'm going to use these definantly, so here are their membership totals

Iron Cross - 180,000 field strategists and special soldiers.
Creation - 90,000 extreme zealous warriors
Acolytes of Creation - 10,000 lowest number, most lethal troops available
Royal Knights - 13,000 infiltrators, intriguer, spies
Holy Wisdom - 30,000 unknown
Greek Order - 110,000 cfficers, navigators, strategists
Golden Hand - 85,000 captains, Admirals
Koh-I-Noor - 190,000 second most lethal knights available.

Your life sounds suspiciously like mine, you're not my cousin are you?

lol

better hope now that would be akward being on the opposite sides of a war.

OOC:That list is incomplete, as i havnt modified it for I dont know how long (thanx for reminding me about it btw)

I also think that Christmas Eve is a silly time to start this, how about 26th?? Its a sunday i know, but it should be better for most people!

Yeah, Christmas Eve is a bit busy. Evening of the 26th would be better.

Deployments: 6 fleets

Each fleet has:
4 Intrepid Carriers
4 Shield AA ships
4 Tracker ASW ships
4 Fiery Avenger Missile ships
20 Romulus Battleships
30 Legate Battlecruisers
40 Vesuvious missile frigates
60 Centurion Heavy Destroyers
20 Velite Attack subs

Also being deployed are 15 Wolfpacks each consisting of 10 Lupin Fast Attack Subs.

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Divisional Strenght:

Each Armored division(including the Inquisitors) deployed has:
25 thousand troops total
10 thousand of which are Infantry
700 Crusader Tanks
700 Crusader II tanks
100 Lancer Medium tanks
1000 Cavalier IFVs
500 Self Propelled artillery pieces
500 Towed Artillery pieces
12 Starlight Laser assault vehicles
100 Nightshade Attack Choppers
100 Blackhawk choppers

Each Airborne Assault Division:
25 Thousand Troops
15,000 infantry
1,500 Cavaliers
300 Lancers
500 Towed Artillery arrays
12 Starlights
100 Nightshades
100 Blackhawks

Each Motorized Infantry division:
25 thousand troops
15,000 Infantry
1000 Armored trucks
300 Lancers
300 Cavaliers
500 Self Propelled Artillery
500 Towed Artillery
12 Starlights
100 Nightshade
100 Blackhawks

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Air Assets in thearte not including carrier air groups:

500 B-52 Bombers
150 B-2 Bombers

1500 Viper Interceptors
2000 F-40 Vampire Air Supremacy fighters
2000 F-42 Tiger Shark Multi Role fighters
200 A-10 Warthogs
100 Spectre Gunships

60 Vanquish Bombers(though technically not in thearte they can hit any point of the globe in a few hours)

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lol

better hope now that would be akward being on the opposite sides of a war.

Nah, we're all friends here really.

You don't live in Birmingham do you?

Boxing Day (26th) is fine... only in the evening since i've been 'promised' that I am being taken somewhere for the day... where I don't know but apparently I am...

Super Smash Brothers Melee... ahhh... Whenever I end up round my brothers we kill each other at that... well that, CS, Starcraft, Warcraft II (better than III all the way)... etc

Great fun!

As for support troops I didn't list in my original post:

I'll be flying in 30,000 of my Medical Corps, 500 of the Religious Corps and 10,000 from the Administration Corps.

Total Central Command staff: 235 people including security.

Tag

Total Forces:
20 million Troops
Breakdown:
5 million Infantry
15 million support troops (support troops automatically follow deploying units and are multitasked hence what it takes 10 supply troops from other nations to do, it takes only 3 for a Rudolfensian support soldier to do. Each support soldier is trained to capably and professionally do up to 5 different types of tasks. Saves money on having to recruit more soldiers)
(Was going to use 46 million, 5 million for combat and the rest for support but DT said I could only use a max of 20 million).
Here is a list of my official assets and unofficial assets I did not post in the IC thread. UO not posted there yet as I have been trying to limit my posts to IC moves.
Official Space:
Communications Sattelite:
Milstar 2
for tactical military forces
complete constellation is composed of nine Milstar 2 satellites and one spare
Milstar 2 satellites would weigh approximately 10,000 pounds

A higher-capacity Medium Data Rate than Milstar 1
The MDR payload will support 1.544 megabit channels that will be in addition to the 2.4 kilobit low data rate channels originally planned for Milstar satellites. The higher data rate of the MDR payload will enhance support to tactical users in the field. Other segments of the Milstar antenna suite include two crosslink antennas at the ends of the satellite wings. On the left wing are the helical Ultra High Frequency antennas, two of the three directional spot beam antennas (the third is hidden by the wing structure), and the box-shaped agile beam antennas. The large solar arrays generate power to operate the satellite.

CommonSense
provide global voice, fax, and message communications services to users equipped with portable handsets.
12 satellites (with two ground spares)
Spacecraft
Spacecraft will rotate attitude to remain focused on a service region. Solar power is 4600 W (EOL). The satellites will connect the user to a Ka-band ground station, where the call is routed into the normal telephone system. No satellite crosslinks are used in this constellation. Each region will have one ground station equipped with four 16.4 ft antennas. 10 - 11 stations are planned worldwide.

Payload
Channel capacity of each satellite: 3000 digital voice circuits at 4.8 kbps. Total beamwidth: 40 deg. provides coverage to regions 7400 km across. The beam is made up of 37 cells, each covering a 1100 km diameter circle. Power distribution will allow up to 25% of total satellite power to be concentrated in one cell, and 75% of the capacity could be focused on 10% of a region. Link margin is 6 to 10 dB. Each satellite has 37x25W bent-pipe S-Band transmitters (2486.42, 2491.75 and 2497.06 Mhz) with antenna gain of 25-30 dB from a 5.2 ft reflector. Handset transmitter power will be 0.5W with a hemispherical antenna pattern using L-Band uplink (1612.32, 1618.25 and 1623.58 Mhz). Each of the 6 channels (3 uplink and 3 downlink) are 5.5 Mhz wide. The L-Band signals are received by the S/C with an 8 ft reflector. Signals will use spread-spectrum CDMA.
Orbit MEO, 10350 km circular, 50 deg inclination, 4 S/C evenly spaced in each of three planes. Orbit period is 6 hours.

Intelligence Gathering:
Sirius
photographic intelligence satellite

E-300 Enhanced Collection System
very large, Lightweight optics
large version of Sirius

Discoverer II
constellation of relatively inexpensive radar satellites designed to affordably provide near-continuous, day/night, all-weather, synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imaging support to the warfighter that could be directly tasked by the warfighter and directly downlinked to theater for processing and exploitation
space-based High Range Resolution Ground Moving Target Indication
near-continuous, deep-look battlefield coverage from space
constellation of 24 satellites configured with Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) will allow for direct tasking control to a deployed Joint Task Force [JTF] tactical commander.
allow for a very rapid revisit rate (about 15 minutes) to most areas of the earth. The Discover II system would be capable of generating very high resolution elevation data (1 meter post spacings) and highly accurate radar imagery.

WARFIGHTER
tactical Hyperspectral Imaging (HIS) remote sensing system.
Hyperspectral imagery is an emerging technology that utilizes a large number of frequency bands enabling the detection and identification of ground targets and conditions that would not be seen by other satellite sensor systems.
combines commercial and military market needs,
Orbit:
470 Km
97.3 Deg. Inclination
Sun Synchronous
10:30am Descending Node
Imagers:
1-Meter Panchromatic
4-Meter Multispectral
8-Meter Hyperspectral
Sensor Characteristics:

Body Scanning Whisk-Broom Scan Imager
Field of Regard: ±50°
8 x 8 Km Nominal Scene Size In Pan/Multispectral Modes
Panchromatic @ 1 & 2 Meter GSD
Multispectral - 4 Bands @ 4 Meter GSD
5 x 20 Km Scene Size For Hyperspectral Modes
Visible/NIR/SWIR/MWIR @ 8 Meter GSD
2 Grating Spectrometers
280 Spectral Bands, Ranging From 0.45 To 5.0 µm
Geo-Location Of Pixels
Panchromatic Pixels To Better Than 12 Meters @ 90%
Hyperspectral Pixels To Within 75 Meters 3
Downlink Data Rate: 150 Mbps
3 Watt X-Band Transmitter @ 8.2 GHz
Onboard Data Storage: 32 Gb
Five 100 Km2 Hypercubes
Encryption:
Uplink - NSA Encrypted
Downlink - Commercial Data Encryption Standard

Navigational Sats:
GPS 4
consolidates the satellite and operational control subsystems into one optimized package
constellation of 33 satellites
compatibility and interoperability with the current space vehicles, ground control system, and user equipment.
feature advanced atomic clocks to greatly improve performance and give the control segment greater visibility into the health of the units. With four frequency standards composed of both cesium and rubidium technologies, these extremely accurate GPS atomic clocks must keep time to within 8 nanoseconds a day.
he processor-controlled cesium clocks continuously optimize their performance by adjusting internal parameters and compensating for environmental effects. They also perform self-checkout diagnostics

Weather Monitoring Sattelite:
Gaia2
Operational Linescan System which provides continuous visual and infrared imagery of cloud cover over a swath 1,800 miles wide. Additional satellite sensors measure atmospheric vertical profiles of moisture and temperature.
monitor and predict regional and global weather patterns; including the presence of severe thunderstorms, hurricanes, and typhoons.
also measure local charged particles and electromagnetic fields to assess the impact of the ionosphere on ballistic-missile early warning radar systems and long-range communications. Additionally, these data are used to monitor global auroral activity and to predict the effects of the space environment on military satellite operations.

Missile Launch Detector:
DSP
early warning system for the detection of long range ballistic missile launches and nuclear detonations

SDI: These sats make up the Pandora's Box system.

Warhawk
dentify and track ballistic missiles during flight
In addition, it will perform scientific investigations of the composition and dynamics of the Earth's atmosphere by observing ozone, chloroflourocarbons, carbon dioxide and methane.
Spacecraft
3-axis stabilized to 0.01 deg using reaction wheels with knowledge to 9 µ rad (post-processed). 108 Gbits data storage. Steerable X-band antennas with 2 kbps uplink and downlink up to 25 Mbps. Dual solar arrays (single-axis articulation) provide 1200 W BOL. NiH2 batteries.

Payload
The instruments consist of 11 optical sensors making observations at a wide range of infrared, visible and ultraviolet wavelengths from 110 nm to 28 µ m. Primary instruments: SPIRIT III (Space Infrared Imaging Telescope), UVISI (Ultraviolet and Visible Imagers and Spectrographic Imagers), SBV (Space-Based Visible instrument), OSDP (On-board Signal and Data Processor), and reference objects (2 cm spheres to be deployed from MSX).
Size 1.5 x 1.5 x 5.1 meters
Orbit 900 km, high inclination, circular, near-sun-synchronous

Vigilence
24-inch mirror deflects ground based lasers back to target points on earth.
Payload
The precision relay mirror was 24 in. (61 cm) and had a pointing accuracy of 0.2 arcsec. (at least one fourth of a city block)

Orbit 457x478 km, include.=43.1 deg

180M per spacecraft.
Spacecraft
Spacecraft spin slowly (6 rpm) about the nadir axis to permit scanning of the Earth by the detector system. Zero momentum stabilized using a reaction wheel to counter the spacecraft spin. Four solar panels deploy to generate roughly 1300 W. Radiation hardened.

Payload
Payload classified, but thought to include telescope with 6000 element IR array, nuclear explosion detectors, particle detection monitors.
Size 33 ft long, 14 ft diameter
Orbit Geosynchronous

HLS
HotLine Sattelite
Emergency Communications Sattalite
Allows emergency communications between the leaders on of various nations in times of international crises, to facilitate bilateral talks between heated adversaries with the purpose of completing peace talks from bunkers and and other safe zones.
Communication through the sat. takes place as if the participants are in the same room.
Can be used only by national leaders.

Navajo
military communications sattalite
encodes and encrypts military comms. which must be uncoded and unencrypted at the target point with a specially made instrument.

Diagram of Pandora's Box: Note there are more sats in PB than shown on the diagram.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vetobob/planes%20and%20SDI/PandorasBoxsystemdiagram.gif

PB is boosted by earth based OTHR (Over The Horizon Radar)
Definition: A radar system that makes use of the atmospheric reflection and refraction phenomena to extend its range of detection beyond line of sight. Over-the-horizon radars may be either forward scatter or backscatter systems.
Basically its what allowed the US and USSR to see each others missile tests without either having sats.
http://www.rl.af.mil/History/Radar/OverHorizonDetection.GIF

Unofficial Space (not posted in ic yet):
Pebble: Not sure if I used it yet. These a little pebble sized micro sats capable of either scanning bigger sats to determine their threat status or releasing EMP pulses. Allies will be notified 5 hours in advance if I chose to use EMP in Space.
KT Hellfire Satallite: Fires Tungsten Rod and hypervelocity speeds toward targets on Earth. I have only 1 Satallite, experimental. It holds only 10 rods.

The nuclear weapons equipped sats won't be used in this rp since the original author said he didn't want WMD's being used.

This is a break down of my navy:
21 fleets
Each fleet is composed of:
3 aircraft carriers (first 5 fleets have Ticonderoga class carriers the remainder have Yorktowns) Each carrier holds Harrier II aircraft.
2 Arizona class Battleships
19 Kirov Class Nuclear powered cruisers
9 Ticonderoga II Aegis Cruisers
23 Farragut Class Aegis Stealth Destroyers
14 Galaxy Class Nuclear Stealth Subs
14 Seawolfs
Extra ships not assigned to a fleet: 2 Yorktowns
8 Arizona Class Battleships
1 Kirov class nuclear cruiser
11 Ticonderoga II's
17 Arliegh Burke's
6 Galaxy subs
6 Seawolf's.

Fleet locations:
The 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, and stationed at undisclosed naval bases in the mediterranean.
The 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th are were in Upper Egypt but are now in the Indian Ocean.
The 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th are in the Indian Ocean.
The 5th through 12th are milling around in the Indian Ocean.
The 13th 14th, 15, and 16th fleets are stationed in the Rudolfensian colony of Singapore. They have not yet been mobilized but will be.
The 17th and 18th fleets are in the Pacific. The 17th is a 100 miles north of Hawaii, the 18th is just south of Alaska.
The 19th and 20th fleets are down by Chile.
The 21st Fleet is in the Carribean engaged in a naval exercise a mile or two just outside of DA waters.
Battle Island 1 is in the Carribean by Grenada.
Battle Island 2 is in the Mediterranean.

I have 200 Airmedevac wings. Each wing holds 100 aircraft for purposes of medical evacuation from the battlefield.
I will be using one wing for this rp.
The aircraft are marked with red crosses.

Air Force Structure:

Each Air Force is composed of 2 Air Divisions
Each Air Division is composed of 2 Air Wings
Each Air Wing is composed of 10 Air Groups
Each Air Group is composed of 10 Squadrons
Each Squadron has 10 of one type of air craft.

The 1st Rudolfensian Air Force is composed of:
2 Air divisions
4 Air wings
45 Air groups
450 Squadrons (each composed of 10 F117 Knighthawks Stealthfighters)


The 2nd Rudolfensian Air Force is composed of:
1st Air wing (all B1 bombers)
2nd Air wing (all B52 Bombers)
3rd Air Wing (all F35 JSF)
4th Air Wing (all F35 JSF)

The 3rd through the 7th Rudolfensian Air Forces are composed entirely of F111s.
A special strategic bombing task force is composed of
5 Air groups of B2 Stealth bombers.

The 1st and 2nd Rudolfensian Airforces are stationed in Upper Egypt.
The 3rd Air Force is Stationed in the middle east.
The 4th Airforce is stationed in Taliban.
The 5th Air Force is stationed in Magdha.
The 6th Air Force is stationed in Singapore
The 7th Air Force is stationed in Las Vegas Air Base.
And the B2 task force is stationed in the Mediterranean (exactly location classified.) * Note that these aircraft have not been deployed ic as of yet.

Army Structure:

Each army has 2 Divisions
Each division has 2 brigades
Each Brigade has 4 Battalions
Each BAttalion has 5 companies
Each Company has 100 troops.

Each army has 8,000 troops total.
Total of 625 Armies.
First one hundred armies are in Rudolfensia preparing to deploy.
Second hundred are in the middle East.
Third hundred are on the moon. (Not being used in this rp)
4th hundred on in India and Afghanistan.
5th hundred are in Dr. Twist.
Forces in DT at the moment:
800,000 Active Duty
1.2 million reservists doing their mandatory one year deployment stint. Reservists must spend 1 year out of every 5 on active duty in an overseas tour.
Yes, I have reservist in Afghan and other places. But they aren't going to be used here.

50,000 special operations troops in Rudolfensia.
12 W10 Stormshadow Air Troop Transports. Beware when I used these, as they carry up to 300 troops at a time and can move from say New York to Tokyo in just 4 hours. But since I have no desire to lose them, it is unlikely I will use them. But I might. In case your wondering, they use scramjet tech which takes them up to hypermach speeds.

2 Golden Dragons, can fly any where in the world nonstop, without refueling. Flying time is same as that for the W10 Stormshadow. Only 2 in inventory but 50 more are being built but won't be ready for this conflict.

OOC: TAG for aiding NWO allies. I might not be around much, just found out I'm working nights over Christmas, as well as Christmas Eve, New Years Eve, and New Years Day. Ah well.

At the moment, I have mobilisations posted somewhere in a Brimstone thread, assume that they still stand.

Ok i would like to solve one object of possible conflict for the future. Guff has 20 million troops and you may take issue withthat but:

i have 20 million in my armed forces including logistics. I have a population of 2 billion and i use half of my 10% defense budget on keeping my forces maintained (i worked it all out using excel)

Guff has a population of 3 billion. His national budget is over 4 times mine (giving a potential troop number of 80 miillion including logistics). He also will most likely use about 20 % of his budget on defence (giving potential troop numbers of 120 million including logistics). Guff will also be spening more of his budget (most liekly 3/4) on his troops giving potential numbers of 180 million including logistics. Finally i use a 9:1 ratio of logistics to troops (making my army very well supplied) but guff will use less making it easy for him to have the numbers he says he does while still having a realtivly well supplied army. Infact compared to some people in this rp he will have an unbeliveably well supplied army

Ok i would like to solve one object of possible conflict for the future. Guff has 20 million troops and you may take issue withthat but:

i have 20 million in my armed forces including logistics. I have a population of 2 billion and i use half of my 10% defense budget on keeping my forces maintained (i worked it all out using excel)

Guff has a population of 3 billion. His national budget is over 4 times mine (giving a potential troop number of 80 miillion including logistics). He also will most likely use about 20 % of his budget on defence (giving potential troop numbers of 120 million including logistics). Guff will also be spening more of his budget (most liekly 3/4) on his troops giving potential numbers of 180 million including logistics. Finally i use a 9:1 ratio of logistics to troops (making my army very well supplied) but guff will use less making it easy for him to have the numbers he says he does while still having a realtivly well supplied army. Infact compared to some people in this rp he will have an unbeliveably well supplied army

Yeah, but with 180million people in his army that SHOULD mean that the economy as a whole isnt performing too well which means that he would gradually be losing that extra money.

I think. *Looks around Sheepishly*

Belem, your thesis on the Stamppatch is most interesting.
But I think they would still have to eat something, so as to satisfy their bodies psychologically. They did research a while back, (don't know the exact date but it was in the early 80's or late 70's).
They took some people who couldn't swallow their food cause of serious medical problems. So they were fed through a tube that went directly to their stomachs. They got the nutrition they needed, but they were still hungry cause they weren't chewing their food. Chewing being an important part of the digestive process cause it sends signals to the digestive tract to prepare to digest food coming down the pipe. So even though they were "eating" their hunger could not be satisfied cause they didn't have something to masticate.
At the least your people likely will need more than a candy bar or two to chew on along the way.

Tag - I'll post my European / Russian / Atlantic force deployments shortly - though it is somewhere around 250,000 troops (incl. logistical support) plus 15 carrier battlegroups operating in the Atlantic / Med.

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Belem, your thesis on the Stamppatch is most interesting.
But I think they would still have to eat something, so as to satisfy their bodies psychologically. They did research a while back, (don't know the exact date but it was in the early 80's or late 70's).
They took some people who couldn't swallow their food cause of serious medical problems. So they were fed through a tube that went directly to their stomachs. They got the nutrition they needed, but they were still hungry cause they weren't chewing their food. Chewing being an important part of the digestive process cause it sends signals to the digestive tract to prepare to digest food coming down the pipe. So even though they were "eating" their hunger could not be satisfied cause they didn't have something to masticate.
At the least your people likely will need more than a candy bar or two to chew on along the way.

Thats why they are given candy bars. its to avoid stomach problems and to keep the pscyhological effect. And candybars are easier to transport then entire meals.

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guys to make this less confusing just post a message to which side you are on because the IC thread is getting cluttered and confusing.

Wolfish is a NWO member - supporting Dr Twist in this matter.

As posted in the IC thread - I have 6 airwings and 250,000 plus troops in the Czech Republic.

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guys to make this less confusing just post a message to which side you are on because the IC thread is getting cluttered and confusing.

I R Twistian

Twist

Imperial Forces
Russian Forces
Euroslarvia
Vizion
Xeraph
Malatose
The Imperial Navy
Hogsweat
Independent Hitmen

I know i have missed a Heap of Nations here as well, So keep them Coming.

There are a Few Nations which wont Show there Face until the War Begins as well.

Imperial Forces
Russian Forces
Euroslarvia
Vizion
Xeraph
Malatose
The Imperial Navy
Hogsweat
Independent Hitmen

I know i have missed a Heap of Nations here as well, So keep them Coming.

There are a Few Nations which wont Show there Face until the War Begins as well.

One question:

Shouldn't we be keeping this MT (or around)? If we start including FT this is going to get hideously messy...

Dr Twist has my support too.

One question:

Shouldn't we be keeping this MT (or around)? If we start including FT this is going to get hideously messy...

I agree with this, try and keep it modern people.

I agree with this, try and keep it modern people.


Yeah definetely, i know certain people (including me) will walk away if we get too future tech :P

And don't make it a dogpile cause then it just gets stupid.