International Space Station
Albinoism
12-12-2004, 11:14
The Holy Empire of Albinoism wishes to start a massive building project over the Earth. It will be an International Space Station. The estimated cost of the station is about $250 billion. All nations who want to participate, please put down the amount of money you wish to donate and the manpower you will supply. Thank you.
Supreme Hierarch of the Holy Empire of Albinoism
Incantare Beliarh
14-12-2004, 17:19
I will agree to split the cost and staff evenly. :cool:
Albinoism
14-12-2004, 18:58
Agreed. Oh and by the way, have you thought of joining the Covenant of Nations?
Incantare Beliarh
14-12-2004, 19:38
Agreed. Oh and by the way, have you thought of joining the Covenant of Nations?
Present company excepted, I'm a loner.
P.S. My people are wary of the station's structural integrity, and will thus be wearing space suits.
The Tarters
14-12-2004, 19:59
Some of my major corporations have expressed an interest in using this space station for various purposes. Would anyone consider trading publishing rights to all materials generated from the station for a sizable fee? Would $4.5 billion plus a couple thousand expendable laborers be enough? On another more lucrative note, our nation’s arms manufacturers have been working on advanced rocket technology for some time now. Several companies would consider donating $6-7 billion plus advanced technical expertise in the form of a few hundred engineers, technicians, and scientific experts, if these individuals were permitted to use space conditions for product development and testing. The government of The Tarters wishes to expedite this by offering another $10 Billion in exchange for meeting both these minor consessions.
Albinoism
14-12-2004, 20:06
Agreed. Me and my partner will split the money evenly, and all subjects of research will be brought to us. Also we would also like to see the results of this research.
Anal States of America
14-12-2004, 20:07
the anal states of america will provide security and military protection for your international space station. Oh and ELTACO too.
:sniper:
:mp5:
Albinoism
14-12-2004, 20:14
Everyone has a part in security. You are allowed to join in the project as Security Chief though.
The Emperor would like to make the nation of Albinoism aware of the fact that there are at least two Space Stations already in orbit above the planet. One of them is Xeraph's OSS-1. We also have OSS-2 orbiting the primary planet in the Typhon Expanse, Andromeda Galaxy. Xeraph also has two Battle Platforms in place over the Empire at an altitude of 3,000 miles.
The other Space Station represents the Federated Suns, now located exclusively in the Eon Expanse.
We would be honored to provide you with engineers to help with the planning and building of your station, as well as provide you with $100,000,000 USD to be used for the construction of the Station.
regards,
Prince Vlad, of the Grey Phoenix, in the Name of the Emperor
Albinoism
15-12-2004, 20:10
I am grateful for your assistance.
Albinoism
15-12-2004, 20:18
I have just recieved a report threatening our space station. I suggest we increase the military ships there until the Defense System is fully operational.
RevertRomance
15-12-2004, 20:21
if i can put WMDs and launch them from this spacestation then i will put down 5 billion and a workforce of about 25,000 men to work of the computized components related with space stuff
Albinoism
15-12-2004, 20:32
If your WMDs are part of the Defense System than go ahead. I must be notified of all launches though, and if you piss someone off you will take all of the blame.
The lost epidemic
18-12-2004, 03:58
Are you still working on it because if you are I will lend 10 engineers, 10 scientists and 5 guards armed with XM8 assault rifles and Mp5's. We will provide our own transportation with 2 x-2000 safire's escorted by two 2 wraith attack gliders also to provide protection. I will provide $25 million usd for the development. Though we would like a defence position on the station capable of launching missles , "rods of god" , firing a carbon laser and we will handle the security systems if that would be possible. Our station defence platforms could down aproximately 50 missles per minute.
Xeraph's OSS-1 has been tracking a craft or crafts cloaking and decloaking approx 65,000 miles from the Intl Space Station, and on a trajectory towards the same.
With your permission, the Emperor would like to send 20 Prometheus Battle Cruisers and 20 Valiant Interceptors to aid you in any possible defense of the Station.
Gen. Strickland, CMDR EX Forces
Interesting. We may add money to this project.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 09:17
Xeraph's OSS-1 has been tracking a craft or crafts cloaking and decloaking approx 65,000 miles from the Intl Space Station, and on a trajectory towards the same.
With your permission, the Emperor would like to send 20 Prometheus Battle Cruisers and 20 Valiant Interceptors to aid you in any possible defense of the Station.
Gen. Strickland, CMDR EX Forces
Permission granted.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 09:18
Are you still working on it because if you are I will lend 10 engineers, 10 scientists and 5 guards armed with XM8 assault rifles and Mp5's. We will provide our own transportation with 2 x-2000 safire's escorted by two 2 wraith attack gliders also to provide protection. I will provide $25 million usd for the development. Though we would like a defence position on the station capable of launching missles , "rods of god" , firing a carbon laser and we will handle the security systems if that would be possible. Our station defence platforms could down aproximately 50 missles per minute.
This is acceptable. We would be grateful for any assistance.
Big Mosquitos
18-12-2004, 09:40
The big mosquitos colony will folow you in this adventure. We doesn't have many incomes but we have great scientist that could be realy helpfull.
Permission granted.
Thank You....
Xeraphian Ships in orbit 40 miles above INTL Station. Several unknowns are now being tracked. We cannot tell who they may be as the regular cloaking/decloaking prevents us from seeing any insignia or shape of the units. We have, however, been able to follow their trajectory path. Several jumps have put the origin of the units in the Pelagius Region of the Andromeda Galaxy. As Xeraph's territory is also in the Andromeda Galaxy, we have dispatched probes to try and determine units ID.
Updates to follow.
Praetonia
18-12-2004, 16:03
The Democratic Imperium is willing to provide substantial funding to this project, on condition that all WMDs are removed. They can in no way be construed as defencive, and will more than likely get the whole station blasted out of the sky when they are launched. If someone wants to launch nuclear weapons from space, then they should make their own satellite or buy one.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 16:31
The Democratic Imperium is willing to provide substantial funding to this project, on condition that all WMDs are removed. They can in no way be construed as defencive, and will more than likely get the whole station blasted out of the sky when they are launched. If someone wants to launch nuclear weapons from space, then they should make their own satellite or buy one.
You make a good point. Everyone should have a say on this. Please post on weither or not there should be WMDs on the station. This topic is open for discussion.
Acrimoni
18-12-2004, 16:37
If WMD's are removed then I will pledge $500,000,000 to help the space station.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 16:39
If WMD's are removed then I will pledge $500,000,000 to help the space station.
Ok. That's 2 against the WMDs
You make a good point. Everyone should have a say on this. Please post on weither or not there should be WMDs on the station. This topic is open for discussion.
WMD's are not a good idea on an exposed target. One random hit, and all will be lost. I would suggest a second station be built, heavily guarded by Coalition Ships, if any wish to have WMD in the area.
Alaric
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 16:42
WMD's are not a good idea on an exposed target. One random hit, and all will be lost. I would suggest a second station be built, heavily guarded by Coalition Ships, if any wish to have WMD in the area.
Alaric
I agree with this. We must build a different space station for the WMDs. Also what news from your probes, Xeraph?
Praetonia
18-12-2004, 17:36
If this is to be a true International Space Station, it should be entirely non-threatening militarily, so people wont just blow it up (which is remarkably easy). I would vote against any WMDs being associated with this program at all.
Draconis Federation
18-12-2004, 18:06
I too add my disapproval for the WMD's positioned or would be positioned on the first ISS, if there are to be two stations, the Draconis Federation would like to offer a work force of 2 million to be placed on both or either space station/s, but given the stations would more or less prove to be in your favor and not our own, I request that a tresury department be established to pay all workers evenly, and I suggest that a representive form each counrty be placed on a treasury council and that the two head treasuriers should be from the Draconis Federation, as well as from the major contribitor and financer, the Holy Empire of Albinoism. Do we have an agreement?
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 18:31
Our nation is willing to donate some defenses if you require any. As we say a very well gaurded station is the best idea. Post if you would like to gain some defences. Also we will send 10 mechanics and 10 F.A.R.Q.s to help setup the defence and keep any unwanted passengers from boarding the station.
That is all.
Leo Core Blue
[OOC: I will check-up on this thread a lot.]
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 20:25
Nothing has changed - spaceborne warships, WMD, battlestations and military outpost - everything is the same.
Why cant space be used for purely scientific, economic & colonial purposes without arming for wars - our conflicts in space cannot be solved through war, they must not.
The International Fleet, an 18 member union of Nationstates dedicated to the peaceful exploitation of space for scientific and colonial purposes are ready to begin construction of orbital facillities for an International Council for open discusions to resolve conflict through debate and dialouge with the international community in space. The Democratic States of Greater Beijing and the International Fleet will cover the entire bill of 1.3 tln for the construction project to be completed within 6 years and the est. 234.8 mln in annual operating cost to host your nationstate representatives and ambassadors to the International Fleet - all nationstates of our solar system are wellcome to apply for Council entry and if you're as serious as we are about peace in space you may want to concider Membership in the Democratic Union of the International Fleet.
International Fleet Secretary General, Dr. Sun Xi
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366377
Praetonia
18-12-2004, 20:47
OOC:
@Beijing: Just what I was thinking! If I want orbital weapons platforms Im not sharing them with other nations, anyway...
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:22
An agreement not to sell WMD or aid in the development of WMDs and related technologies for other countries and on an open market would definately go a long way in our non-proliferation efforts.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:28
bump
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 21:29
All WMDs are to be taken off of the station ASAP. I agree with space is for exploration, but I still must maintain me fleet in order to protect my empire.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:37
of course - your nations solvereignty is not in question, you have the right to defend yourself and field a fleet and a force for that purpose - we at the Orbital Institutes of the International Fleet hoever believe that peace in space is possible. We hope the use of defense systems and thier deployments will never be provocative or incite a disturbance, however we will be here to mediate a peaceful outcome if you so need.
We stand ready to accept representatives and ambassadors at the current IF Space Exploration Council at Luna I Station until the completion of the dedicated Orbital Forums of Peace.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 21:41
of course - your nations solvereignty is not in question, you have the right to defend yourself and field a fleet and a force for that purpose - we at the Orbital Institutes of the International Fleet hoever believe that peace in space is possible. We hope the use of defense systems and thier deployments will never be provocative or incite a disturbance, however we will be here to mediate a peaceful outcome if you so need.
We stand ready to accept representatives and ambassadors at the current IF Space Exploration Council at Luna I Station until the completion of the dedicated Orbital Forums of Peace.
Thanks. The only things I use my fleet for are defense and to bring stability to worlds that ask for our help.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 21:47
I agree that you should use your station for research, but it is true that now you will have to worry about other nations with systems that can fight in space. So I think it would be okay to have a defense grid of some sort to keep your stations from being ripped apart.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:50
Send this ISS is not to be a military outpost or a WMD platform we are willing to contribute 5.2 bln to this effort and we are willing to lease Transports, both aerospace and orbital-lunar transport vehicles.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:51
I agree that you should use your station for research, but it is true that now you will have to worry about other nations with systems that can fight in space. So I think it would be okay to have a defense grid of some sort to keep your stations from being ripped apart.
The International Fleet is willing to defend this station if it is a purely scientific and colonial mission.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 21:56
We too shall lend a hand in defense if requested.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 21:56
The International Fleet is willing to defend this station if it is a purely scientific and colonial mission.
It is purely science. I am setting up a defense grid to protect it though. Nothing to big or destructive, so don't worry.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 21:57
So you agree the station should remain militarily neutral AerospaceCity?
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 21:59
The only weapons are those for defense. Yes, it is neutral.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:00
We have 2 ships being followed by 4 FFS Raptors. The ships are carrying some generators for your shields. As you said you wanted a minimal defense grid we decided to donate a couple of them.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:00
So you agree the station should remain militarily neutral AerospaceCity?
Yes I agree.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:01
We have 2 ships being followed by 4 FFS Raptors. The ships are carrying some generators for your shields. As you said you wanted a minimal defense grid we decided to donate a couple of them.
Thanks. Your help is much appreciated.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 22:03
It is purely science. I am setting up a defense grid to protect it though. Nothing to big or destructive, so don't worry.
Excellent - with your permission we will maintain an International Fleet Battlegroup within a days flight and a rotating patrol and monitor within range of the ISS - we apreciate your fundamental respect for science in space and your efforts here to further peace in space. The Monitor and Patrol can be used in longrange scientific analysis missions when things are quiet.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:06
Here come the ships. Ship one holds the main Generator and ship two holds a back-up generator.(the back-up can also power the station in case needed.)
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:11
I am sending out several probes to uncharted areas of space. I will notify you of any findings.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:16
Ummm... It seems a satallite has appeared on one of our radars. oh... nevermind... its just a F.A.R.Q. that fell off the station while helping build.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:20
Excellent - with your permission we will maintain an International Fleet Battlegroup within a days flight and a rotating patrol and monitor within range of the ISS - we apreciate your fundamental respect for science in space and your efforts here to further peace in space. The Monitor and Patrol can be used in longrange scientific analysis missions when things are quiet.
Permission granted.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:25
Alright. The shield generators are in place and are being hooked up. Lets hope the systems will work with your tech.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:29
Alright. The shields are in place and are being hooked up. Lets hope the systems will work with your tech.
It will.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:34
Well... Our systems are pretty different but they seem to have been hooked up fine. Ok, we are now activating the shield barrier. Activate in:
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*Generator Start-up noise*
A light on screen displays:
\SHIELDS ACTIVATED/
Thank heaven it worked! Last time it almost killed our allies when we tried to connect one to thier ship.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:36
Then this is a time to celebrate! Champain's on me!
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:40
A guy points a champain bottle and pops it on Albinoism's leader. Guy, "Hey! You said champain was on you!"(im not sure but that guys probably gonna get killed. Meh, hes useless anyways)
[OOC: well that really has happened.]
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:51
Ok. Back to buisness. We have to get our F.A.R.Q. back from its current floating position in space.
See you guys later we will come back every once and a while to check up on the Shields. Also if you need our help just call.
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 22:52
Ok. Back to buisness. We have to get our F.A.R.Q. back from its current floating position in space.
Understood. I suggest we send out a small retrieval(sp?) craft to go get it and bring it back.
AeroSpaceCity
18-12-2004, 22:53
Understood. I suggest we send out a small retrieval(sp?) craft to go get it and bring it back.
Sure. That'll work.
[OOC: I went to check out your econemy info and look what I found http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Albinoism your nation is doing good! Also the industry is pretty well chosen.]
Draconis Federation
18-12-2004, 23:34
All WMDs are to be taken off of the station ASAP. I agree with space is for exploration, but I still must maintain me fleet in order to protect my empire.
Agreed but under no curcumstance are you or anyone else to arm ISS' present and future, all agreed?
Draconis Federation
18-12-2004, 23:37
Now that we have security out of the way perhaps we can agree on other terms, such as a council of treasurey to assure each country that our resources are not being used inefficently. Agree?
Albinoism
18-12-2004, 23:38
Agreed but under no curcumstance are you or anyone else to arm ISS' present and future, all agreed?
Agreed. Never will it be armed in such a way in the future.
The Great Sixth Reich
18-12-2004, 23:55
If this is modern tech, then we wish to help man the station with both Secruity and Biologist (us Germans are terrific at Biology) staff.
We will donate $1 Trillion USD to support this station.
Greater Beijing
18-12-2004, 23:55
Quote:
Excellent - with your permission we will maintain an International Fleet Battlegroup within a days flight and a rotating patrol and monitor within range of the ISS - we apreciate your fundamental respect for science in space and your efforts here to further peace in space. The Monitor and Patrol can be used in longrange scientific analysis missions when things are quiet.
Permission granted.
__________________
Supreme Hierarch Vazam of The Holy Empire of Albinoism
*Dr. Sun Xi looks to his left and nods
The modifyied Imperator class IF Warship decloaks - launches a cruiser about half the size of the entire ISS construction scaffold and then recloaks leaving no trace that the carrier was ever there with the exception of a disipitating plasma trail from the manuver and the cruiser or 'Monitor' which was already launching several probes and a wing of patrol/gunships. "This is Captain Moir Anajiin of IF Monitor 51 we are standing by for any missions or priority transportation needs. We will remain within 2 hours if you need anything."
"Enjoy Vazam," said Sun Xi. "We will be in the neighborhood for a few weeks if you wanted to nail down any Transportation deals."
The United States of Maraque sets forth $5 billion towards the space station, and a work force of 5 million people.
Greater Beijing
19-12-2004, 00:29
Coolness we are willing to provide transportion for your personell to and from the project site for 58k per individual aboard our reliable Aerospace Transports.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 17:27
All of your help is accepted, and the Holy Empire of Albinoism is grateful.
just out of curiousity
What is the 'Great 6th Reich all about'? I'm assuming your intellectual sensabilities have grown beyond the old ethnocentric ideals of the past.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 18:59
Coolness we are willing to provide transportion for your personell to and from the project site for 58k per individual aboard our reliable Aerospace Transports.
[OOC:Hmm... You makin' some money offa him eh?]
IC: Appearing in the distance a strange little ship appears. The ship looks like a very large asparagus. With a strange languagemarked on the side. The ship stops at least far enough from the planet to decloack a large chunk of what would look like a station. Followed by a large ship that on the side it has many languages, and one you can understand, the words say "NUA-1 069523 Neptune" From the ship the station becomes hailed. On-screen is Leo Core Blue, a scruffy Anthromorphic character wearing a white suit, soon he begins to speak, "Good day Albinoism, we would like you to accept this gift of gratitude. It is an old part of a station we picked up floating in space. We viewed its and your designs and it seems to make a fit. If you would like our personel will begin attaching it, oh and don't worry we checked wiring and updated systems." Then the comms cut out and more than 100 steel cords shot from the large chunk and grabed the other station pulling the two together.
Draconis Federation
19-12-2004, 19:08
[OOC:Hmm... You makin' some money offa him eh?]
IC: Appearing in the distance a strange little ship appears. The ship looks like a very large asparagus. With a strange languagemarked on the side. The ship stops at least far enough from the planet to decloack a large chunk of what would look like a station. Followed by a large ship that on the side it has many languages, and one you can understand, the words say "NUA-1 069523 Neptune" From the ship the station becomes hailed. On-screen is Leo Core Blue, a scruffy Anthromorphic character wearing a white suit, soon he begins to speak, "Good day Albinoism, we would like you to accept this gift of gratitude. It is an old part of a station we picked up floating in space. We viewed its and your designs and it seems to make a fit. If you would like our personel will begin attaching it, oh and don't worry we checked wiring and updated systems." Then the comms cut out and more than 100 steel cords shot from the large chunk and grabed the other station pulling the two together.
OOC: UH WE UH, FUTURE TECH
Hmm, so the contruction has begun, we have preped our shuttles and are launching them as we speak, they will be there within the hour to begin working on the first ISS. And please inform us when you plan to start the second.
Swordsmiths
19-12-2004, 19:29
The Confederacy of Swordsmiths is interested in the project, and would like to donate 10 billion USD to the project. The Confederacy would also like to volunteer 125 workers to help complete the station and 25 permanent technicians to help operate the station after its completion.
Please contact us if you need anything more. We would be excited to help in this endeavor.
Peace,
Reardon, Copenhaver, Moravitz
Confederacy Tribunes
OOC: What is the tech level of this thread? it appears to be future tech, but if it isn't, please ignore the rest of this post.
IC: The Democratic States of Jangia would like to offer power generators for your station. we unfortunately do not have a launch platform capable of sending them into space. The power efficiency of our generators is roughly 145% of a standard nuclear generator, and has very little dangerous radiation or waste products. It would be a pleasure to donate generators capable of producing enough power to supply the stations projected needs, if someone is willing to send us specifications on it. The only caveat for this is that we will be allowed to have scientists on board the station during its construction. We are trying to improve our large geostationary sattelite technology, and surveying the workers of more advanced countries would be very helpful, as long as our scientists are free to move about the station as they will.
To address security concerns, our scientists are willing to go through any polygraph testing deemed necessary by the Chief of Security.
President Tean Juan, Democratic States of Jangia
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 19:36
OOC: What is the tech level of this thread? it appears to be future tech, but if it isn't, please ignore the rest of this post.
IC: The Democratic States of Jangia would like to offer power generators for your station. we unfortunately do not have a launch platform capable of sending them into space. The power efficiency of our generators is roughly 145% of a standard nuclear generator, and has very little dangerous radiation or waste products. It would be a pleasure to donate generators capable of producing enough power to supply the stations projected needs, if someone is willing to send us specifications on it. The only caveat for this is that we will be allowed to have scientists on board the station during its construction. We are trying to improve our large geostationary sattelite technology, and surveying the workers of more advanced countries would be very helpful, as long as our scientists are free to move about the station as they will.
To address security concerns, our scientists are willing to go through any polygraph testing deemed necessary by the Chief of Security.
President Tean Juan, Democratic States of Jangia
It's kind of both. We are incorperating ideas, and technologies from both. Also everyone has to be checked by the Security Council before entering the station.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 19:38
OOC: What is the tech level of this thread? it appears to be future tech, but if it isn't, please ignore the rest of this post.
IC: The Democratic States of Jangia would like to offer power generators for your station. we unfortunately do not have a launch platform capable of sending them into space. The power efficiency of our generators is roughly 145% of a standard nuclear generator, and has very little dangerous radiation or waste products. It would be a pleasure to donate generators capable of producing enough power to supply the stations projected needs, if someone is willing to send us specifications on it. The only caveat for this is that we will be allowed to have scientists on board the station during its construction. We are trying to improve our large geostationary sattelite technology, and surveying the workers of more advanced countries would be very helpful, as long as our scientists are free to move about the station as they will.
To address security concerns, our scientists are willing to go through any polygraph testing deemed necessary by the Chief of Security.
President Tean Juan, Democratic States of Jangia
I would agree it is smart to put a seperate generator for the main power, because the shield's power generator cannot operate all systems plus defend the station from attacks. If you accept we would like to test the shield power now to see if it can withstand basic fire. Dont worry we have projected a back-up shield inside of the main to keep any weapons from damaging the station.
Morbid Uprising
19-12-2004, 19:41
The Principality of Morbid Uprising would like to donate 1000000 freeze fried frosted flakes and 10000 of our top scientists.
Neuvo Rica
19-12-2004, 19:43
The Peoples Republic of Neuvo Rica wishes to donate NR$60 Billion. And a platform on the station which can serve as a launch pad for ships. This will be manned by 3 Cosmanauts from neuvo rica and it's satellite states. With the consent of the other participants, of course...
WOooOOoooOo hundredth post
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 19:43
I would agree it is smart to put a seperate generator for the main power, because the shield's power generator cannot operate all systems plus defend the station from attacks. If you accept we would like to test the shield power now to see if it can withstand basic fire. Dont worry we have projected a back-up shield inside of the main to keep any weapons from damaging the station.
Permission granted.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 19:49
Thank you sir, Viper-Z's begin tests. Soon 5 small ships close to what a FFS raptor looks like only instead they are armed with a few more weapons. They begin fire on the shields. From inside the station over comms anyone in the area can hear, "100% and holding," every time the Vipers attack. Soon they begin using the different weapons, now you can hear, "99% and holding" So it holds to that? wow. Our last shield test with vipers wiped the main shield in seconds after using advanced weapons. Well there ya go, we have no proof it will work against large battles, but it should work for small attack forces and at least 2 battle cruisers.
Kormanthor
19-12-2004, 19:58
The Holy Empire of Albinoism wishes to start a massive building project over the Earth. It will be an International Space Station. The estimated cost of the station is about $250 billion. All nations who want to participate, please put down the amount of money you wish to donate and the manpower you will supply. Thank you.
Supreme Hierarch of the Holy Empire of Albinoism
We will donate technicians to build it, and offer the use of our new Space Elevator to get the building supplies into orbit. We also have shuttles and
other modern tech space tech at our Store Front if you are interested.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 20:03
We will donate technicians to build it, and offer the use of our new Space Elevator to get the building supplies into orbit. We also have shuttles and
other modern tech space tech at our Store Front if you are interested.
Please explain this space elevator. Sounds interesting.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 20:06
[OOC: Hmm... isn't the space elevator the thing NASA is working on?]
IC: Good day Albinoism,
Our technicians have begun connecting the two station parts. Also we have 300 extra on thier way. But I must know, if you have promised to remove all of your military weapons from space, then how will you defend yourself?
That is all, Have a nice day sir.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 20:11
[OOC: Hmm... isn't the space elevator the thing NASA is working on?]
IC: Good day Albinoism,
Our technicians have begun connecting the two station parts. Also we have 300 extra on thier way. But I must know, if you have promised to remove all of your military weapons from space, then how will you defend yourself?
That is all, Have a nice day sir.
We aren't removing the defense system. We are removing WMDs that could be launched at nations on the planet. The weapons that are on the station don't have that kind of power. The defense system will be things like 50mm rail guns, short range missiles, shielding you know, things like that.
The Great Sixth Reich
19-12-2004, 20:11
just out of curiousity
What is the 'Great 6th Reich all about'? I'm assuming your intellectual sensabilities have grown beyond the old ethnocentric ideals of the past.
OOC: About bringing back the power and fame of the pervious "Reichs", most notablely the "Second Reich" of the early 20th century/late 19th century when Germany was a major imperial nation, competing with such great powers as Amerika (as we spell it) and England.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 20:16
Oh, well the thing that Luna I had a link to said you must remove all space weaponry systems to be in it. Oh whatever though. I'll stick with battle/research ships forever. Also I would like to announce that the 300 extra men have arrived and are working, but we do have a problem, a spy followed us. Leo points to a smashed satelite outside the ship. On the satelite were the marks of a clan of anarchists. We have been trying to get rid of that threat before they get rid of all. THey keep saying they will gain control of the 5 ASC flagships and their D-Drives. But no such luck for them, now they are after other nations objects.
Infundibula
19-12-2004, 20:17
The Libertarian Republic of Infundibula will supply all the coffee and donuts for the space station project. Our astro-food specialists have even developed a miraculous new "space donut" that will allow crews perfomring actual extraterrestrial assembly of the station to partake.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 20:20
If the spy is still alive I want him interrigated. I want to know what his intentions are, who he's allies with everything.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 20:21
If the spy is still alive I want him interrigated. I want to know what his intentions are, who he's allies with everything.
Umm... a satelite is not alive... But we can hack it and send back comms to scan where they are.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 20:29
Umm... a satelite is not alive... But we can hack it and send back comms to scan where they are.
My bad.:D Then hack it.
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 20:31
Got it! Hacker: "Ok! Lets hack this thing! :D "
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 20:41
Ok, were in, lets start tracking the signal.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 21:23
Ok, were in, lets start tracking the signal.
What news of the satallite?
AeroSpaceCity
19-12-2004, 21:39
What news of the satallite?
Well, we did confirm its from the anarchy, but we cant assure they are still where they were. As it was a point in space that keeps moving.
Albinoism
19-12-2004, 21:51
Understood
Draconis Federation
19-12-2004, 23:52
If the spy is still alive I want him interrigated. I want to know what his intentions are, who he's allies with everything.
A spy, hmm intreging, what make and model is the satilite that has spied on you, it may be useful in finding where it was made, then ultimately who made it, no?
AeroSpaceCity
20-12-2004, 06:44
A spy, hmm intreging, what make and model is the satilite that has spied on you, it may be useful in finding where it was made, then ultimately who made it, no?
Umm... it abviously was not a brand name satalite. It seemed kinda thrown together. And we already know it was from the anarchy in our solar system.
Draconis Federation
20-12-2004, 15:47
So, who lives in this "anarchy"?
AeroSpaceCity
21-12-2004, 02:30
So, who lives in this "anarchy"?
Hard to say, we usually meet one of the boss' lacky's instead of him. We belive he is acctually just a wimpy little scardey cat.
Draconis Federation
21-12-2004, 17:55
So what force do you suspect they have?
Kormanthor
25-12-2004, 19:07
Kormanthor Builds Space Elevator
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SPACE ELEVATOR
Make way for the ultimate high-rise project: the space elevator. Long viewed as science fiction "imagineering", researchers are gathering momentum in their pursuit to propel this uplifting concept into actuality.
Still, the mental picture needed to grasp the elevator to space idea…well, you can't be weak of mind.
Forget the roar of rocketry and those bone jarring liftoffs, the elevator would be a smooth 62,000-mile (100,000-kilometer) ride up a long cable. Payloads can shimmy up the Earth-to-space cable, experiencing no large launch forces, slowly climbing from one atmosphere to a vacuum.
Earth orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, the asteroids and beyond - they are routinely accessible via the space elevator. And for all its promise and grandeur, this mega-project is made practical by the tiniest of technologies - carbon nanotubes.
For a space elevator to function, a cable with one end attached to the Earth's surface stretches upwards, reaching beyond geosynchronous orbit, at 21,700 miles (35,000-kilometer altitude).
Twenty tons of cable and reel would be kicked up to geosynchronous altitude by spacecraft to get the project started.
Super-strong carbon nanotubes may make space elevators feasible.
Space Elevators could be established on other planets, like Mars, to assist in their exploration.
Space Elevator: Next Stop, Earth Orbit
Seen as an engineering undertaking for the opening decades of the 21st century, the space elevator proposal was highlighted here during the 2002 Space and Robotics Conferences, held March 17-21, and sponsored by the Aerospace Division of the American Society of Civil Engineers.
Science fiction writers have been deploying space elevators for years.
Space visionary, Arthur Clarke, centered his novel of the late 1970s, The Fountains of Paradise, on the notion. Also, among other writers, Kim Stanley-Robinson's Red Mars noted the soaring splendor of an elevator to space. Furthermore, the scheme has bounced around technical journals for decades. Some call it a "thought experiment", but others point out that space exploration B.C. -- "Before Cable" -- will pale contrasted to what's possible within ten to fifteen years.
"Even though the challenges to bring the space elevator to reality are substantial, there are no physical or economic reasons why it can't be built in our lifetime." That's the matter-of-fact feeling of physicist, Bradley Edwards of Eureka Scientific in Berkeley, California, but carrying out heavy lifting design work in Seattle, Washington.
Edwards told SPACE.com that he's been wrapped up in space elevator work for some three years, supported by grants from NASA's Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC) program. "I'm convinced that the space elevator is practical and doable. In 12 years, we could be launching tons of payload every three days, at just a little over a couple hundred dollars a pound," he said.
"In 15 years we could have a dozen cables running full steam putting 50 tons in space every day for even less, including upper middle class individuals wanting a joyride into space.
For a space elevator to function, a cable with one end attached to the Earth's surface stretches upwards, reaching beyond geosynchronous orbit, at 21,700 miles (35,000-kilometer altitude). After that, simple physics takes charge.
The competing forces of gravity at the lower end and outward centripetal acceleration at the farther end keep the cable under tension. The cable remains stationary over a single position on Earth. This cable, once in position, can be scaled from Earth by mechanical means, right into Earth orbit. An object released at the cable's far end would have sufficient energy to escape from the gravity tug of our home planet and travel to neighboring the moon or to more distant interplanetary targets.
Putting physics aside the toughest challenge has been finding a super-strong cable material. "That's what has kept this idea in science fiction for 40 years," Edwards said. But the right stuff in terms of cable material is no longer thought of as "unobtainium", he said.
The answer is carbon-nanotube-composite ribbon. Small fibers of the material are set down side-by-side, then interconnected to form a growing ribbon.
Stronger than steel
The hurdle to date, Edwards said, has been the commercial fabrication of carbon nanotubes. Both U.S. and Japanese firms, among others, are ramping up production of carbon nanotubes, with tons of this now exotic matter soon to be available. "That quantity of material is going to be around well before five years time. It's not going to take long," he said.
Given the far stronger-than-steel ribbon of carbon nanotubes, a space elevator could be up within a decade. "There's no real serious stumbling block to this," Edwards explained.
"The making of carbon nanotubes is moving very quick," said Hayam Benaroya, a professor in the Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering at Rutgers in Piscataway, New Jersey. "We're moving from the scientific stage of just developing them to actual commercial entities producing them in ton-like quantities," he said.
"Perhaps within our lifetimes we might actually see real designs of skyhooks and space tethers, these kinds of things. They may be feasible at reasonable cost," Benaroya said.
The Space Elevator Comes Closer to Reality
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Reel world high-wire act
Getting the first space elevator off the ground, factually, would use two space shuttle flights. Twenty tons of cable and reel would be kicked up to geosynchronous altitude by an upper stage motor. The cable is then snaked to Earth and attached to an ocean-based anchor station, situated within the equatorial Pacific. That platform would be similar to the structure used for the Sea Launch expendable rocket program.
Once secure, a platform-based free-electron laser system is used to beam energy to photocell-laden "climbers". These are automated devices that ride the initial ribbon skyward. Each climber adds more and more ribbon to the first, thereby increasing the cable's overall strength. Some two-and-a-half years later, and using nearly 300 climbers, a first space elevator capable of supporting over 20-tons (20,000-kilograms) is ready for service.
"If budget estimates are correct, we could do it for under $10 billion. The first cable could launch multi-ton payloads every 3 days. Cargo hoisted by laser-powered climbers, be it fragile payloads such as radio dishes, complex planetary probes, solar power satellites, or human-carrying modules could be dropped off in geosynchronous orbit in a week's travel time," Edwards said.
For a space elevator to function, a cable with one end attached to the Earth's surface stretches upwards, reaching beyond geosynchronous orbit, at 21,700 miles (35,000-kilometer altitude).
Twenty tons of cable and reel would be kicked up to geosynchronous altitude by spacecraft to get the project started.
Super-strong carbon nanotubes may make space elevators feasible.
Space Elevators could be established on other planets, like Mars, to assist in their exploration.
Using a laser beam to boost the climbers into space is doable, said Harold Bennett, president of Bennett Optical Research, Inc. of Ridgecrest, California. "If you do it right, you can take out 96 percent of the effect of the atmosphere on the laser beam through adaptive optics," he said. The strength of the pulsed laser beam is less than the intensity of the Sun, so birds, airplanes, or human eyes wouldn't be affected, he said.
Return on investment
Eric Westling, a Houston, Texas-based consultant on the space elevator, is bullish on the concept. Spending billions on a space elevator is small change for a big purpose.
"Other than the invention of some Buck Rogers engine, the space elevator is the only system for accessing space that is subject to the economics of scale. It's a true return on investment enterprise. The cost of space travel has to become an incidental part of the overall cost of what we're trying to get done," Westling said.
"It will change the world economy. It's worth what ever it costs to put it up," Westling said. An initial elevator, he added, is sure to give birth to even larger systems, capable of handling larger loads of up and down traffic.
"I'm looking at a business plan that shows some investor could triple his or her money in about 6 years, and the initial investment could be as low as $5 billion," Edwards said.
Building the impossible
The elevator to space concept does entail aggressive research work. As example, Edwards said he is looking into the environmental impacts stemming from elevator operations. Being studied too is impact of lightning, wind and clouds on an Earth-to-space cable system. Space elevators for use on other worlds, like Mars and the Moon are receiving attention as well.
One thing to keep in mind. Building the impossible is done here on Earth routinely, Edwards said.
Take for instance the $13.5 billion Millennium Tower envisioned for Hong Kong Harbor. This incredible skyscraper would be 170 stories tall. Elevator traffic within its walls is estimated at 100,000 people per day.
Edwards also points to the Gibraltar Bridge project. It would span the Straits of Gibraltar, linking Spain and Morocco at a projected cost of $20 billion. The bridge would use towers, twice as high as the world's tallest skyscraper. Roughly 1,000,000 miles (1,600,000 kilometers) of wire cables would be utilized in the project.
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Our Space Elevator is finished and ready for Business. Even though this technology is considered obsolete by most future based nations we decided to build one to give the smaller countries of the world a cheap way
of getting things into Earth Orbit.
Price: $ 500.00 per pound (30-tons / 30,000-kilograms max weight per load) We used stronger building materials in ours then what was talked
about in the article.
AeroSpaceCity
29-12-2004, 06:13
Hmm... A space elevator... lets hope it doesn't detach.
AeroSpaceCity
29-12-2004, 06:40
So what force do you suspect they have?
Enough to keep attacking our planet every other month. Its like they reproduce repetatively and none of them are the rabbit spieces.(We are all animal/human creatures if you didn't know) So we suspect they are actually running a cloning system, one of ours. The system can create a perfect clone up to ten times faster than a normal cloning machine(To us a normal cloning machine produces 3 clones a day). The system was the first of its kind umong our nation. Now they got a hold of it and are useing it for evil.
We will try to activate its emergency beacon. If we can we will know the source of the anarchy.
Kormanthor
29-12-2004, 18:59
Hmm... A space elevator... lets hope it doesn't detach.
It was built with future tech metals that are much stronger then the type
mentioned in the original article so that possiblity is nearly nonexistant. Even
so I have emergency crews aboard my Star Base that are trained to handle
any forseable emergency.
With Kormanthor's permission, we would like to use their space elevator to lift our generator into orbit. once there, it will be met by two tug ships. our scientists will take a shuttlecraft up to the station.
Kroblexskij
29-12-2004, 23:06
meh, i tried this once, during the space craze
Kormanthor
11-01-2005, 19:10
With Kormanthor's permission, we would like to use their space elevator to lift our generator into orbit. once there, it will be met by two tug ships. our scientists will take a shuttlecraft up to the station.
Please note this is a business, the price will be $ 500.00 per pound. If
this is agreeable to you we need to know the weight you wish to lift.
Albinoism
11-01-2005, 20:23
Go ahead.
Each generator has a weight of 5 tons, and there are two generators to be lifted.