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Horrible Blizzard Ravages Mississippi, 18 feet of snow, national emergency declared

Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 21:24
"This is Joseph Mladic of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network. Over the last three days the snow has been falling and it hasn't stopped falling. All across Mississippi the levels of snow range from 12 feet to 18 feet. This is most unusual as one, we are Mississippi and two it is April... The Czar has declared a national state of emergency. Plows from Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio, along with winter clothing and other winter items, are moving south to help dig Mississippi out."


"In other news, Stahlecker Mississippian Commercial Farming Inc has declared that quarterly revenues will be nearly nothing due to the blizzards. And over five hundred thousand small farmers have reportedly begun bankruptcy procedures. Economic advisors have determined 1500 billion dollars will be needed to save Stahlecker Mississippian Commercial Farming Inc and the many small farms. Thus far, the federal government has yet to announce their position on this."


"People are advised to stay indoors, and burn furniture and books until the government can install central heating in all the houses. Republican Guard units equipped with winter gear from units from Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana have begun to dig out homes of those in need of medical attention. The Armored Corps have thus far managed to keep most major highways clear. But still people are being asked to cancel all non-essential travel as the roads need to be kept clear for plows to move along them."


"Fear not for the Czar and Czarina, along with the rest of the Fabus and other major families of nobles are fine. The SRG has been keeping all royal and noble estates clear, and the Czar has central heating, fear not people, our Czar and Czarina will be fine."


"Thus far over 80,000 soldiers have been hospitalized for cold related injuries, take this seriously, the cold can kill or cause frostbite, stay indoors until further notice. The temperature remains at -45ยบ, that is forty-five degrees Fahrenheit below zero."




Secret IC-

A report has been published by the Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Economics, and Ministry of Agriculture, it was given to the Czar.


1) Anti-freeze used in all vehicles froze. Weapons locked up, soldiers are urinating on their weapons to keep them functioning. Recommend immediate change to new anti-freeze of strong quality.

2) Winter clothing non-existent. No Mississippian units have proper clothing; clothing is coming from donations from civilians in the Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana territories, as well as parts of South Africa and Lesotho. Fall clothing issued to soldiers in Mississippi inadequate, suggest Schacht Chemicals Inc design chemically heated clothing that will allow soldiers to function in such extreme temperatures.

3) Road clearing problems. Suggest roads have heaters built into them.

4) Central heating. Only 5% of homes (mostly upper class and upper-middle class homes) have central heating. Suggest government give away up to 500-600 million central heating units to those who cannot afford them.

5) 96% of crops grown in Mississippi are ruined, farmers facing economic ruin and bankruptcy. Nobody is in danger of starvation, but we suggest the government bail them out. Not only is it economically sound, it's the right thing to do.

6) Winter training. Make cold weather and winter training mandatory for Regular Army and Paramilitary units. Thus far only the Special Forces, MSAAS, and Republican Guard units are proving able to cope with these winter issues. Winter training must begin immediately for all units regardless of their branch or status.

7) Plows. Stock fifty thousand or so plow trucks throughout Mississippi for these issues if they ever occur again.

8) Winter clothing. Encourage or mandate all department stores sell winter clothing, but don't allow gouging.
The Canadian Union
08-12-2004, 21:27
Christ- what happened to you people? Even we in CANADA don't get that much. Not in Ottawa, anyway.

Anyway, Colin's out of the office, but he asked me to offer you aid in digging yourselves out, should you need it.

-Mai Graves.
Kahta
08-12-2004, 21:29
Kahta has an extensive winter training program that lasts for 4 months for soldiers. We can send instructors there, or you can ship them here. We also will be sending 40,000 military plows, with operators, if thats alright with you. We do need them back though, they are our extra plows if a war destroys the primary ones.

King MacDonald
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 21:29
Kahta has an extensive winter training program that lasts for 4 months for soldiers. We can send instructors there, or you can ship them here. We also will be sending 40,000 military plows, with operators, if thats alright with you. We do need them back though, they are our extra plows if a war destroys the primary ones.

King MacDonald



"We accept your help, and thank you greatly. We'd like to buy 10,000 of the plows though, for our permanent use."


Czar Roger Fabus
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 21:31
Christ- what happened to you people? Even we in CANADA don't get that much. Not in Ottawa, anyway.

Anyway, Colin's out of the office, but he asked me to offer you aid in digging yourselves out, should you need it.

-Mai Graves.



"We'd rather not accept your help and risk angering God. This blizzard is a clear sign we've not been pleasing God, we're going to make sure we do exactly as he wants... Let's just say we'll one day be putting all this winter experience to use... Eh."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus
The Canadian Union
08-12-2004, 21:31
"We'd rather not accept your help and risk angering God. This blizzard is a clear sign we've not been pleasing God, we're going to make sure we do exactly as he wants... Let's just say we'll one day be putting all this winter experience to use... Eh."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus

How would helping you anger God? We're just trying to help.

-Mai Graves
Canad a
08-12-2004, 21:32
OCC: Mississpi gets snow? *unsure*
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 21:34
"I shall make it my task to personally save every farmer, along with the Stahlecker Mississippian Commercial Farming Inc, with my own funds. I have well over 1500 billion in cash, and well over 5000 billion totally in all my assets, thus it won't be a problem for me to personally bail these people out. Farmers are an important part of Mississippi, indeed 15% of our GDP is agriculture, thus it is very important we help these people who are an integral part of Mississippi and the Mississippian economy."


Czar Roger Fabus




Ooc- Our GDP by sector is thus:

Industrial- 65%
Agriculture- 15%
Services- 20%
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 21:35
"This is a sign of the growing climate changes in the world, weather patterns are all skewed, trade winds and climate patterns are nearly messed up beyond repair. We need to enact laws to protect our environment, and enforce those laws, unless we want to see winters that never end..."


Dr. George Fabus, "Coalition For Environmental Protection" CFEP.
Kahta
08-12-2004, 21:49
"We accept your help, and thank you greatly. We'd like to buy 10,000 of the plows though, for our permanent use."


Czar Roger Fabus

Yes, we can sell you those. They are very reliable, they work down to -55.. We can sell you them for $40,000 each. Attached is a picture.

http://www.teamster.org/divisions/bmc/JurisEquip/Snow-Plow.jpg


King MacDonald
Nutropinia
08-12-2004, 22:11
Kahta, We would also like to purchase 50,000 Plows from you if you can manufacture them.
Mattikistan
08-12-2004, 22:12
"As part of our constitutionally mandated program to offer aid to those countries in need, where possible, we would like to offer you ten Emergency Triage Units, comprising of military doctors and nurses.

"We understand that your own nation has a well-equipped medical base, however we pondered the possibility of it being overwhelmed with the number of cold-induced illnesses and injuries that such freak weather might bring.

"The ETUs typically include twenty to thirty field doctors, with a further one hundred field nurses, and travel largely unarmed. The doctors are proper, fully trained doctors, working in hospitals and local surgeries when not on military duties. Nurses are a mix of dedicated military field medics and domestic nurses.

"In times of war, there is usually a small arsenal of handguns per unit; however such measures will not be necessary for this mission... will they? They won't bring any for this mission, anyway, so their safety will need to be guaranteed by Roger Fabus personally.

"You need not worry about the temperature slowly them down. One of the five states in this Confederation, Kreekland, is a constant frozen land and they have been trained and equipped to deal with such temperatures.

"We are aware of your security procedures, however given the nature of their visit we would urge that you forego them and pre-clear their planes and trust our word that they will be unarmed and will not deliberately cause harm to your people. Anyone found carrying will be fully eligible for punishment under Mississippi law with no attempts at intervention by us; we will stress this to all personnel before they leave.

"We await your response."

Prime Minister Jack Daniels,
Elected Representative of the Confederacy of Mattikistan
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:15
"We are aware of your security procedures, however given the nature of their visit we would urge that you forego them and pre-clear their planes and trust our word that they will be unarmed and will not deliberately cause harm to your people. Anyone found carrying will be fully eligible for punishment under Mississippi law with no attempts at intervention by us; we will stress this to all personnel before they leave.
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"That clause there, you specifically asked for the planes to be cleared, implying that the planes probably have nuclear bombs or calico cats inside them. Either way, you're not entering our nation."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus
The Shadow Worlds
08-12-2004, 22:17
The Colony of The Shadow Worlds would be pleased to send a contingent of its specialised enviroment combat troops to assist in setting up temporary communications and infrastructure links.

Due to the large distance and relative expense of transporting material and men from the Shadow Worlds to Earth, it will only be possible to send 100 soldiers.

We do however stress that they are very highly trained in cold weather enviroments, and that they have all the nessasary gear to survive in extreme cold of near 100 celcius below.

Aid minister: TSW
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:19
The Colony of The Shadow Worlds would be pleased to send a contingent of its specialised enviroment combat troops to assist in setting up temporary communications and infrastructure links.

Due to the large distance and relative expense of transporting material and men from the Shadow Worlds to Earth, it will only be possible to send 100 soldiers.

We do however stress that they are very highly trained in cold weather enviroments, and that they have all the nessasary gear to survive in extreme cold of near 100 celcius below.



"We thank you for the offer, but we cannot allow foreign soldiers into our nation, unless they are from Kahta or another friendly power."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus
Mattikistan
08-12-2004, 22:19
"That clause there, you specifically asked for the planes to be cleared, implying that the planes probably have nuclear bombs or calico cats inside them. Either way, you're not entering our nation."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus

OOC: Given that Mattikistan barely has a conventional army, let alone nuclear weapons, that's a pretty daft statement. But, whatever.

IC:

"Your choice. It was only an option, not a demand; you could still have stopped and searched them."

Prime Minister Jack Daniels
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:20
OOC: Given that Mattikistan barely has a conventional army, let alone nuclear weapons, that's a pretty daft statement. But, whatever.

IC:

"Your choice. It was only an option, not a demand; you could still have stopped and searched them."

Prime Minister Jack Daniels



"Fine, they will be allowed in, but must stay no longer than they are needed, and leave upon request. They will be thoroughly searched, no calico cats or pornography will be permitted to accompany them."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus
Nutropinia
08-12-2004, 22:22
OOC: Calico Cats???
Kahta
08-12-2004, 22:23
Kahta, We would also like to purchase 50,000 Plows from you if you can manufacture them.

Sure, we can get them to you in 3 months. $40,000 each.

King MacDonald
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:23
OOC: Calico Cats???


"They are a sign of the presence of Satan."

Attorney Genera/ Grand Inquisitor Curtis Fabus
The Shadow Worlds
08-12-2004, 22:23
"We thank you for the offer, but we cannot allow foreign soldiers into our nation, unless they are from Kahta or another friendly power."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus

TSW aknowlages this, and asks that in the name of your citizens you would alow our soldiers to enter unarmed. You may of course check all soldiers disembarking from out shuttle, and check their gear for any weaponry. We feel strongly that our experience in cold weather would greatly aid your recovery. We would also provide this service free of charge, and in a gesture of goodwill from the colony to its Home Planet.

Aid minister: TSW
Mattikistan
08-12-2004, 22:25
"I should probably have been more clear; the offer was withdrawn the moment you suspected we would make use of a catastrophic natural disaster to kill innocent people. I personally dislike the suggestion, as I fully support our nation's peaceful nature. As I'm not constitutionally mandated to offer twice, and I'm already on edgy political ground offering the first time, I'll just offer you good luck now, and wish you a 'warm' future as soon as possible."

Prime Minister Jack Daniels
Nutropinia
08-12-2004, 22:27
Kahta,


That is perfect. We are also worried about impending climate changes. To perpare for this we are bulking up cold weather gear, arming every citizen and boosting fertilizer use to make sure we have enough crops to last us through the coming disasters.


2 Billion USD Wired
Spartin
08-12-2004, 22:34
The U.S.S.S would like to help to help you as a fellow man,but we cannot spare any soldiers.We can however give you $2 million in aid to buy snow clearing equiptment,heating devices,and food for your citizens.We will also offer 15 of our highly skilled military contractors to build emergency shelters and repair roads.We wish you the best in this disaster

President Mulvenna
The Unites Socialist States of Spartin
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:38
The U.S.S.S would like to help to help you as a fellow man,but we cannot spare any soldiers.We can however give you $2 million in aid to buy snow clearing equiptment,heating devices,and food for your citizens.We will also offer 15 of our highly skilled military contractors to build emergency shelters and repair roads.We wish you the best in this disaster

President Mulvenna
The Unites Socialist States of Spartin



"We don't need money or soldiers, or anything like that. We need actual plow equipment. More importantly, we need the world to adopt the same outstanding environmental protection laws and anti-pollution laws we have. When Mississippi gets 18 feet of snow, it's high-time we admit global climate pattern changes are a major issue. If The Canadian Union doesn't stop polluting over our territories and attempting to spray pollution into our lands to drastically alter our climate, we will have no recourse but to initiate a regime change in their nation."

George Fabus, environmental advisor, head of internal security
Armandian Cheese
08-12-2004, 22:41
We cannot spare any aid, as of now, but we do have a question. Do you know why this occured? This blizzard seems...suspicious.
~Emperor Armand Domalewski
(OOC: You're going to blame this on Canad a?")
Armandian Cheese
08-12-2004, 22:43
The U.S.S.S would like to help to help you as a fellow man,but we cannot spare any soldiers.We can however give you $2 million in aid to buy snow clearing equiptment,heating devices,and food for your citizens.We will also offer 15 of our highly skilled military contractors to build emergency shelters and repair roads.We wish you the best in this disaster

President Mulvenna
The Unites Socialist States of Spartin
DA:
How dare you accept aid from a Socialist nation! Are you not the leader of the world anti-communist alliance?
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:45
DA:
How dare you accept aid from a Socialist nation! Are you not the leader of the world anti-communist alliance?



"My brother was not aware of that, besides, it's not officially accepted until I say so. And I say NO!"

Czar Roger Fabus
Kordo
08-12-2004, 22:55
The people of Kordo would like to offer any aid needed by your nation in this time of need. We are willing to send plows and other winter equipment to help your people along with (unarrmed) personel to run it if you desire. All of Kordo prays for your people.


Sincerly,

President Jack Kordo II
Camel Eaters
08-12-2004, 23:02
Secret Message
From Mannzheim Garzivonni:
To Curtis Fabus:

I have a rather large land base and as such extra plows. Should you need them. I will be happy to give them to you. I usually would avoid The Fox but in the name of your people.
The Canadian Union
08-12-2004, 23:40
Official Statment from the Office of the Prime Minister

I am aware there have been allegations that we caused the blizzard that ravaged Mississippi. I assure you, these claims are absurd, unfounded, and certainly false. My government takes pride in having some of the cleanest industry in the world. Our guidelines for greenhouse gas emissions and pollution control are some of the most clear and well-enforced in the world. To say that our industries caused disaster in Mississippi is completely illogical.

Cordially,

Colin Graves
Itinerate Tree Dweller
08-12-2004, 23:57
"There is no evidence that the Canadian Union is responsible for this weather change in Mississippi." -Emperor Erik Kersk-
Decisive Action
09-12-2004, 00:28
"There is no evidence that the Canadian Union is responsible for this weather change in Mississippi." -Emperor Erik Kersk-


"The DISFB assures me that Canadian Union is totally responsible for the problems."


Czar Roger Fabus
Nutropinia
09-12-2004, 01:17
I concur, Canada has been a scourge on this earth and polluting our air for far too long.

Dictator Paul 'The Mad' Silver
Red Tide2
09-12-2004, 01:18
"The DISFB assures me that Canadian Union is totally responsible for the problems."


Czar Roger Fabus

Official Statement From Red Tide
"Yes... well thats all and good but I dont see any proof in that messagee.
Neo-Mekanta
09-12-2004, 01:20
-OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM EARTHFALL ISLAND (OOC: N-M Modern)

Lord Kaerek just laughs, obviously getting a "kick" out of hearing the news in Mississippi.

He apparently finds the problem quite humorous...
Decisive Action
09-12-2004, 01:25
Official Statement From Red Tide
"Yes... well thats all and good but I dont see any proof in that messagee.



Ooc-

Can we get back to focusing on the snow storm, since Canadian Union is for now being IC ignored due to his (Sevaris) threat to use both Sevaris and CU in a war against me, nobody tolerates puppeteering... When I told him I'd use my puppets if he started getting puppets, he got all bent out of shape, so now I don't recognize CU as a separate RP nation. I RP with Sevaris and with his main nation only, well for now that is. Anyway, if he wanted to be really lame about this, he'd refuse to finish working on RPs we have ongoing that are yet to be pasted, some in excess of 100 pages of word documents. But I don't mind still RPing with him. I just won't RP with him and a puppet, at the same time. I hope that he can respect that choice of mine.


Anyway, perhaps some of you all want to RP how your ambassadors are handling the storm, or how any citizens of yours who are tourists in my nation are holding up. This is open only to those who know that I wouldn't mind them posting here. (You know who you are, my regular RP pals, the good folks who are good RPers and whom I have respect for their RP ability) not a mess of noobs (not to be confused with novices) that can't even spell their own names right.

Basically, allies, friends, etc, feel free to post about how anybody you happen to have inside MS is holding up.
Evil Woody Thoughts
09-12-2004, 01:32
Official Statment from the Office of the Prime Minister

I am aware there have been allegations that we caused the blizzard that ravaged Mississippi. I assure you, these claims are absurd, unfounded, and certainly false. My government takes pride in having some of the cleanest industry in the world. Our guidelines for greenhouse gas emissions and pollution control are some of the most clear and well-enforced in the world. To say that our industries caused disaster in Mississippi is completely illogical.

Cordially,

Colin Graves

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is unable to assess the validity of these claims without further information and hereby requests that all Canadian Union emissions standards, pollution enforcement actions, and industrial pollution audits be released to the general public. Of course, Canadian Union doesn't spend a penny on environmental concerns (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the+canadian+union), so it's unlikely that nation even is capable of disclosing this information. :rolleyes: While Evil Woody Thoughts is also guilty of not spending money on the environment, unlike Canadian Union, we have vast rainforests to act as emissions sinks (ooc: compare our national descriptions).

While we cannot prove our suspicions without hard industrial emissions data, we are strongly inclined to believe that CU is at least partially responsible for the strange weather in Mississippi.

Furthermore, even though our nation is located in two seperate archipelagoes in the mid-Atlantic, ranging from 15-35 degrees N lattitude, we have also experienced occasional ocean-effect snow on winds from the northwest, though nothing on the scale currently being reported from Mississippi. We can ship approximately 400,000 blankets to Mississippi, and also arrange to supply calcium chloride (road salt) to the nation of Decisive Action for use in future suspicious weather.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
The Canadian Union
09-12-2004, 02:23
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is unable to assess the validity of these claims without further information and hereby requests that all Canadian Union emissions standards, pollution enforcement actions, and industrial pollution audits be released to the general public. Of course, Canadian Union doesn't spend a penny on environmental concerns (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the+canadian+union), so it's unlikely that nation even is capable of disclosing this information. :rolleyes: While Evil Woody Thoughts is also guilty of not spending money on the environment, unlike Canadian Union, we have vast rainforests to act as emissions sinks (ooc: compare our national descriptions).

While we cannot prove our suspicions without hard industrial emissions data, we are strongly inclined to believe that CU is at least partially responsible for the strange weather in Mississippi.

Furthermore, even though our nation is located in two seperate archipelagoes in the mid-Atlantic, ranging from 15-35 degrees N lattitude, we have also experienced occasional ocean-effect snow on winds from the northwest, though nothing on the scale currently being reported from Mississippi. We can ship approximately 400,000 blankets to Mississippi, and also arrange to supply calcium chloride (road salt) to the nation of Decisive Action for use in future suspicious weather.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts

I assure you, though we do not have a Federal Ministry of the Environment, we still regulate industrial pollution, What little pollution our industry does produce could not possibly impact weather on a scale so huge as to cause massive blizzards in Mississippi.

And, before you rant at me because of my budget, check out DA's. http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Decisive+Action

See? He doesn't spend any money on the enviroment either.
Sevaris
09-12-2004, 02:33
I'm surprised, to say the least, by the recent disaster of sorts in Mississippi. Sevaris would like to offer any aid we could provide to help Mississippi dig out of the storm.

We would also like to move the aircraft carrier General Franco offshore to aid in resupply efforts to our embassy (we need a place to land and load helicopters)

-Alec Mannerheim
Evil Woody Thoughts
09-12-2004, 02:40
I assure you, though we do not have a Federal Ministry of the Environment, we still regulate industrial pollution, What little pollution our industry does produce could not possibly impact weather on a scale so huge as to cause massive blizzards in Mississippi.

And, before you rant at me because of my budget, check out DA's. http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Decisive+Action

See? He doesn't spend any money on the enviroment either.

Our request for raw emmissions data stands. Furthermore, we have experienced 'interesting' weather patterns, and when the winds blow from the northwest to kick up ocean-effect snow for us, they are blowing from Canadian Union, not DA. This snow has only occured within the last ten years. I present you with season snowfall totals recorded at Great Woody City (in inches):

1994: 0.0
1995: 0.9
1996: 0.7
1997: 3.2
1998: 6.1
1999: 7.2
2000: 5.4
2001: 9.6
2002: 12.4
2003: 12.9
2004: 17.1

These are season snowfall totals recorded at Evil Woody International Airport (EVL) over the last ten years. In every single snow event, winds have been from the northwest, blowing from your nation. If this increase in our snowfall was due to Mississippian emissions, the winds would blow from the west, not the northwest.

If this continues, our rainforests, which act as our pollution control, will be irrepairably damaged. If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide. Release your emissions data.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
Decisive Action
09-12-2004, 04:50
I assure you, though we do not have a Federal Ministry of the Environment, we still regulate industrial pollution, What little pollution our industry does produce could not possibly impact weather on a scale so huge as to cause massive blizzards in Mississippi.

And, before you rant at me because of my budget, check out DA's. http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Decisive+Action

See? He doesn't spend any money on the enviroment either.


I got your message, unignored now, but don't get cute again about anything about using puppets in conjunction, okay? Puppets should remain separate, but equal. (Hahaha, just had to add that last part for a little humor)


The environment is a branch of "Law and Order" in our nation, and education is covered by the armed forces and local WKM schools, and then at higher levels, we have outstandingly excellent academies and colleges for the sons of nobles.

Also we have great nursing schools for those women inclined to become nurses, and we have allow women to attend all female schools to get degrees in education. (Basically if a woman is at a college in MS, she's 1) At an all-female school. 2) There for either teaching or nursing, and very rarely, a Medical degree) There are no women at any of the 200 different armed forces academies, except 1 that has about 150 women because they are destined for the Female RG Division.

Overall, 99% of students at colleges are males, and most of them are middle or upper class, we really don't do anything to help poor people get into college, unless it's a military academy and they show great merit.

Many women in MS don't even finish high school as they often get pregnant around 16 or 17 and thus have to remain at home while their husband is off getting his military training or law degree or whatever, at the college, and she and the children are either taken care of with money he earned in his early teen years from military service performed whilst training, or his parents take care of her until he's out of training/college/etc and has a job.

Overall, our educational system turns out more than enough very qualified people for the jobs we need, and perhaps more importantly, they are very loyal people.
The Canadian Union
09-12-2004, 12:44
Also, I would like to point out that while the Federal government is not responsible for the environment, the Provinces do have their own department of the environments. This comes from the clause in East Canada's Constitution that any responsibility NOT SPECIFICALLY handled by the federal government is handled, for the most part, by the provinces.

With regards to emissions data, I have been told that, since East Canada's creation four years ago, we have consistently met UN standards for pollution. We also do not dump waste into Lake Erie anymore. The last factory that did that was shut down by the Ontario Ministry of the Environment two years ago.

It would be foolish to blame us for this blizzard, or the weather changes in Evil Woody Thoughts. Even if we were spouting pollution, It would take decades, if not centuries, for our industries to make such a huge impact on global weather conditions.

-Colin Graves
Evil Woody Thoughts
10-12-2004, 01:18
Also, I would like to point out that while the Federal government is not responsible for the environment, the Provinces do have their own department of the environments. This comes from the clause in East Canada's Constitution that any responsibility NOT SPECIFICALLY handled by the federal government is handled, for the most part, by the provinces.

With regards to emissions data, I have been told that, since East Canada's creation four years ago, we have consistently met UN standards for pollution. We also do not dump waste into Lake Erie anymore. The last factory that did that was shut down by the Ontario Ministry of the Environment two years ago.

It would be foolish to blame us for this blizzard, or the weather changes in Evil Woody Thoughts. Even if we were spouting pollution, It would take decades, if not centuries, for our industries to make such a huge impact on global weather conditions.

-Colin Graves

Perhaps your government does not understand what we mean by "release your emissions data." We will therefore be more specific.

How many tons of carbon monoxide did your industries emit? Tons of carbon dioxide?

How many tons of CFC's has the Canadian Union ejected into the atmosphere?

How many tons of NOx have been belched forth from your factories and cars?

How many tons of particulate matter have you fouled the air with?

What is the mean ozone concentration, in ppb, in your largest cities?

The Canadian Union does keep these records, correct?

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 02:52
We do have these records, however, I do not have them at this time. I do not see why you care so much, since, IT'S NONE OF YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS!

I am told that the pollution we produce contributes to a minute percent of global pollution, and that our standards are much higher than most nations in the world. East Canada adheres to the regulations of the Kyoto Accord.

Again, you have no right to know my emissions data, even if I myself knew it.

-Colin Graves
Decisive Action
10-12-2004, 03:16
We do have these records, however, I do not have them at this time. I do not see why you care so much, since, IT'S NONE OF YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS!

I am told that the pollution we produce contributes to a minute percent of global pollution, and that our standards are much higher than most nations in the world. East Canada adheres to the regulations of the Kyoto Accord.

Again, you have no right to know my emissions data, even if I myself knew it.

-Colin Graves



"We demand you start talking, or we'll make you suffer for your wrongs against us."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 03:20
"We demand you start talking, or we'll make you suffer for your wrongs against us."

Attorney General Curtis Fabus

All the specifics I can give you, that is, all that I know on the matter, is that our pollution is minimal, at best. Southern Ontario industry is among the cleanest in all of East Canada- it has consistently met provincial and federal standards for air pollution for the past decade, even prior to the founding of the republic.

-Colin Graves.
MassPwnage
10-12-2004, 03:34
IC:
Hmm... strange weather patterns. We're willing to give you a few rapid deployment portable fusion plants that can power an emergency heating system to the coldest areas or to places that most need it so that they can power a heating system.

Each powerplant is packed in 5 tractor trailers and can be assembled in under 6 hours with a 20 man crew. The powerplants can power around 1,000 houses worth each. I'm offering this to Mississippi free of charge, if of course, you'd let my cargo planes into your airspace.- The Great Leader Li.

P.S: The Powerplants will automatically shut themselves off in a month, when hopefully, this crisis will be over.
Evil Woody Thoughts
10-12-2004, 06:08
All the specifics I can give you, that is, all that I know on the matter, is that our pollution is minimal, at best. Southern Ontario industry is among the cleanest in all of East Canada- it has consistently met provincial and federal standards for air pollution for the past decade, even prior to the founding of the republic.

-Colin Graves.

We'll just assume that you don't keep detailed records on pollutants then.

However, since you seem to be so overprotective of any emissions data you possess, perhaps we'll open up and give both you and Mississippi a small taste of our emissions data.

CFC's are banned here in Evil Woody Thoughts--we use less-damaging HCFC's instead. Unlike CFC's, HCFC's break down before they get in the ozone layer and start causing problems. We have some illegal emissions of CFC's of about .3 tons per year; those who are caught are thrown into our prisons, and made to package seed.

Ozone: Current regulations define air as polluted when ozone concentrations are above 60 parts per billion (ooc: the United States EPA uses 80 ppb for its standard), averaged over eight hours. Average data for the last year is shown for our three largest, and most polluted, cities:

Great Woody City: 59 ppb, 17 polluted days
Evil Woody City: 46 ppb, 6 polluted days
That Which is Evil City: 44 ppb, 6 polluted days

We have released this data as a sign of goodwill and cooperation. If the government of Canadian Union releases its data, we shall, in turn release ours in full. This, of course, assumes you even keep records.

Let's just say, that if you refuse to cooperate, the CEO's of several banks in Evil Woody Thoughts have expressed interest in underwriting any military action that Mississippi wishes to take against you.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Thoughts
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OOC: DA, when I reference your nation in a post (e.g. the government of -------), do you prefer to be called Decisive Action or Mississippi? I've never quite figured that out...
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 12:42
We'll just assume that you don't keep detailed records on pollutants then.

However, since you seem to be so overprotective of any emissions data you possess, perhaps we'll open up and give both you and Mississippi a small taste of our emissions data.

CFC's are banned here in Evil Woody Thoughts--we use less-damaging HCFC's instead. Unlike CFC's, HCFC's break down before they get in the ozone layer and start causing problems. We have some illegal emissions of CFC's of about .3 tons per year; those who are caught are thrown into our prisons, and made to package seed.

Ozone: Current regulations define air as polluted when ozone concentrations are above 60 parts per billion (ooc: the United States EPA uses 80 ppb for its standard), averaged over eight hours. Average data for the last year is shown for our three largest, and most polluted, cities:

Great Woody City: 59 ppb, 17 polluted days
Evil Woody City: 46 ppb, 6 polluted days
That Which is Evil City: 44 ppb, 6 polluted days

We have released this data as a sign of goodwill and cooperation. If the government of Canadian Union releases its data, we shall, in turn release ours in full. This, of course, assumes you even keep records.

Let's just say, that if you refuse to cooperate, the CEO's of several banks in Evil Woody Thoughts have expressed interest in underwriting any military action that Mississippi wishes to take against you.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Thoughts
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OOC: DA, when I reference your nation in a post (e.g. the government of -------), do you prefer to be called Decisive Action or Mississippi? I've never quite figured that out...

Fine, I'll give you the damn data, if you'll shut up about it.

Again, this is all I've been able to get, so far.

CFCs have been banned in East Canada for quite some time as well. Yes, there are some offenders, however, their factories are closed and the owners fined.

With regards to Ozone data, if you lump all of Southern Ontario (the region in question), the average was about 47 ppb, or about roughly 8 polluted days last year.

This is all I know so far. Don't ask me more. I don't know.

-Colin Graves
Decisive Action
10-12-2004, 15:16
Fine, I'll give you the damn data, if you'll shut up about it.

Again, this is all I've been able to get, so far.

CFCs have been banned in East Canada for quite some time as well. Yes, there are some offenders, however, their factories are closed and the owners fined.

With regards to Ozone data, if you lump all of Southern Ontario (the region in question), the average was about 47 ppb, or about roughly 8 polluted days last year.

This is all I know so far. Don't ask me more. I don't know.

-Colin Graves




"It's at least forty times what they're publicly admitting to, we've verified this."

George Fabus
Moronyicka
10-12-2004, 16:11
Perhaps this is a sign from God for something you done wrong *cough* world domination *cough*

But in hopes of keeping good relations with DA we are offering 1,000 of are finest military snow plows if you accept.


Regards
~King Jedo~
King of Moronyicka
Ra-Horakty
10-12-2004, 16:17
I will pray to the gods for your salvation, but I am afraid that is all we are capable of offering. Being a hot, desert country we have never encountered this 'snow' before and would have no idea what to do with it. If you require additional robes or food, however, we have plenty.

Representative for Foreign Business
The Spriritual Community of Ra-Horakty
Jeruselem
10-12-2004, 16:24
The Rainley Protestant News

Decisive Action snowed under

The Jeruselem government's non-existent relationship with Decisive Action continued with no public comment on the disaster or any mention of it on it's government news service so far. However most Jerusalem jews were very happy making jokes about DA having a "White Christmas" they deserved or DA suffering an "Act of God". Local Jewish news did show the disaster, but painting it as DA's penance for misdeeds in the Christian context. Jeruselem Protestants prayed for the people of DA, but some Protestants did not.

However we do see why the government is not going to help DA as Jeruselem is not the most likely place for snow, and there is no snow equipment in our nation.

Local Global warming advocates reiteritated their message about the impact of not taking heed of mother nature's reaction to our destruction of her gift. "Look at DA, super-economy but now buried under snow and no longer able to support itself. We have been warned"

OOC
(Not govt news service)
Decisive Action
10-12-2004, 16:34
"This is Joseph Mladic of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network. The Czar has released the necessary funds, from his own personal accounts, to make good all the losses incurred by the farmers and various companies. We are pleased to report that over ninety-five percent of the snow has been either hauled away and dumped into the Gulf of Mexico, pushed into Alabama or Arkansas, various rivers, or simply melted where it sat. But as for now, most major roads are cleared at least to the point they may be driven on and thus the problem of travel is over and all roads are open again."
Shazbotdom
10-12-2004, 18:50
***OFFICIAL RESPONCE***

The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom has declared that if needed, we will send roughly 1300 heavy trucks that can be outfitted with snow plow's on the front of them. These trucks can drive themselves through the toughest conditions. Which is mainly driving up hills with a +40% grade. Their towing capacity is 15 tons and they can deploy shoveling details if needed to uncover sidewalks in front of people's houses or the ones going up to people's doors.

We would also like to dispatch a team of 20 Industrial Inspectors to The Canadian Union for an emergency inspection of his industrial parks. If there is a problem that he is not mentioning then it must be with one or more of the plants in his nation. The inspectors will be read to deploy in 3 hours and will leave when authorized by Emporer Shaz Bot.
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 22:28
***OFFICIAL RESPONCE***

The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom has declared that if needed, we will send roughly 1300 heavy trucks that can be outfitted with snow plow's on the front of them. These trucks can drive themselves through the toughest conditions. Which is mainly driving up hills with a +40% grade. Their towing capacity is 15 tons and they can deploy shoveling details if needed to uncover sidewalks in front of people's houses or the ones going up to people's doors.

We would also like to dispatch a team of 20 Industrial Inspectors to The Canadian Union for an emergency inspection of his industrial parks. If there is a problem that he is not mentioning then it must be with one or more of the plants in his nation. The inspectors will be read to deploy in 3 hours and will leave when authorized by Emporer Shaz Bot.

Your teams are not authorized to enter East Canada. Our industry is fine, I tell you. There is no need nor reason to send in forieng inspectors.

I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL I KNOW.

-Colin Graves
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 22:29
"It's at least forty times what they're publicly admitting to, we've verified this."

George Fabus

Why would I lie to you? I've nothing to hide. And, plus, you know jack shit about my emissions records. Your intelligence agencies lie.

-Colin Graves
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 22:50
Also, if you need any more proof that we're not behind this, look here.

http://www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/Figures/global_wind_July.html

As you can see, winds from East Canada blow out to sea. NOT TO MISSISSIPPI!
Decisive Action
10-12-2004, 22:59
Also, if you need any more proof that we're not behind this, look here.

http://www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/Figures/global_wind_July.html

As you can see, winds from East Canada blow out to sea. NOT TO MISSISSIPPI!



"We still don't believe your lies. Not now not ever."

George Fabus
The Canadian Union
10-12-2004, 23:01
"We still don't believe your lies. Not now not ever."

George Fabus

I'm not lying, though. It's science- you cannot deny science, can you?"
-Colin Graves
Evil Woody Thoughts
11-12-2004, 02:34
Also, if you need any more proof that we're not behind this, look here.

http://www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/Figures/global_wind_July.html

As you can see, winds from East Canada blow out to sea. NOT TO MISSISSIPPI!

All it takes is a slight change in course, caused by a more southerly jet stream, and your foul winds blow over us. Furthermore, the map that you showed depicts prevailing winds in July, not in the winter.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
Roach-Busters
11-12-2004, 02:36
To: Curtis Fabus
From: Generalissimo J.L.

We will deploy 15,000 National Guardsmen and 5,000 plows to alleviate this crisis.
The Canadian Union
11-12-2004, 02:37
All it takes is a slight change in course, caused by a more southerly jet stream, and your foul winds blow over us. Furthermore, the map that you showed depicts prevailing winds in July, not in the winter.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts

Pardon me for being tactless, but would you kindly shut the fuck up and leave me alone? I have better things to do than to argue with idiots. Also, I can assume that pattern will apply for most months.

Shut up, and leave my office alone. I have no wish to argue with you further.
The Parthians
11-12-2004, 07:24
If too many crops are ruined by this freak occurence of nature, I am sure Parthian companies can provide grain and other agricultural products at a very low price.

-President of Teymorian Industries, Lord Rostam Teymorian
Decisive Action
12-12-2004, 20:17
If too many crops are ruined by this freak occurence of nature, I am sure Parthian companies can provide grain and other agricultural products at a very low price.

-President of Teymorian Industries, Lord Rostam Teymorian



"There is no need, all this years Mississippian crops are lost, but already shipments from Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, and most importantly, Mississippian Egypt and Western Sahara, have been sent to alleviate the damage done."

John Tallmadge, Governor-General Mississippian Egypt
New Zambuda
12-12-2004, 20:17
The Zambudan National Bank will underwrite anything you need DA and just tell me and I will deploy a carrier group or two.
The Canadian Union
12-12-2004, 22:35
Again, I will repeat East Canada's offer of humanitarian aid to Mississippi to help them weather this crisis. I know you'll probably refuse, but, we're trying to be nice anyway.

-Colin Graves
Momanguise
12-12-2004, 23:05
If climate warming is indeed to blame for this freak incident, the we urge to world to continue with current emmissions, as it clearly leads to the deaths of those of an inferior race. That is to say, the Mississipians. Long may they freeze in hell.
Sevaris
14-12-2004, 03:13
Sevaris would again like to offer economic and humanitarian aid to Mississippi. We'll even send over engineer battallions to help you restore basic services.

-Alec Mannerheim
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 03:36
Sevaris would again like to offer economic and humanitarian aid to Mississippi. We'll even send over engineer battallions to help you restore basic services.

-Alec Mannerheim



"We've already made it clear, the snow is gone from Mississippi, mostly gone, all roads and airports are opened... We are running the same services as before the storm, we are fine. Only on Fabus Island do some minor problems still continue. Thus I respectfully decline your offer, I must ask though, how are you and Yuna doing, and your daughter? I trust everybody is well?"

Czar Roger Fabus
Sevaris
14-12-2004, 03:38
"We've already made it clear, the snow is gone from Mississippi, mostly gone, all roads and airports are opened... We are running the same services as before the storm, we are fine. Only on Fabus Island do some minor problems still continue. Thus I respectfully decline your offer, I must ask though, how are you and Yuna doing, and your daughter? I trust everybody is well?"

Czar Roger Fabus

We're alright over here, Roger- sorry I didn't hear about the snow gone earlier- we've had some problems with the telecom network (bad transmitter somewhere). We're alright, though.

I do hope your family is doing well.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 03:45
We're alright over here, Roger- sorry I didn't hear about the snow gone earlier- we've had some problems with the telecom network (bad transmitter somewhere). We're alright, though.

I do hope your family is doing well.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim

Secret Reply:


"Alice is technically in charge of the nation right now, I was readying to leave on an eight week tour that would encompass a few days in Chile to talk peace with Chinese, five weeks in the Holy Land with Sam of Kahta and my sister Victoria, and then a conference in Canada... I transferred my power of imperial decree to Alice to let her run the nation in my absence, then I up and have a heart attack right before I'm about to leave, I'm fine though... However, Alice won't let me get out of bed now, insisting I get lots of rest and avoid stress, she also won't let me smoke or drink... Oh well, she's a great lady and I love her, and I know she only wants what is best for me, so I guess she is right, I'd do no good for the nation by letting my health deteriorate. Perhaps you and Yuna might come to Mississippi and see some of the mountains of snow still around in some areas, eh?"

Czar Roger Fabus
Sevaris
14-12-2004, 03:48
Secret Reply:


"Alice is technically in charge of the nation right now, I was readying to leave on an eight week tour that would encompass a few days in Chile to talk peace with Chinese, five weeks in the Holy Land with Sam of Kahta and my sister Victoria, and then a conference in Canada... I transferred my power of imperial decree to Alice to let her run the nation in my absence, then I up and have a heart attack right before I'm about to leave, I'm fine though... However, Alice won't let me get out of bed now, insisting I get lots of rest and avoid stress, she also won't let me smoke or drink... Oh well, she's a great lady and I love her, and I know she only wants what is best for me, so I guess she is right, I'd do no good for the nation by letting my health deteriorate. Perhaps you and Yuna might come to Mississippi and see some of the mountains of snow still around in some areas, eh?"

Czar Roger Fabus

I do hope you get better soon. Heart attacks are always hellish. I do give credit to Alice for insisting you stay in bed- good woman. She must really care about you.

With regards to a visit, that might be nice- however, I'm not sure about security- I can sense that the situation towards Sevaris has deteriorated somewhat- mainly from intelligence we gathered about your father ranting about us. I doubt it's real, but I am a tad concerned.

-Alec Mannerheim
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 15:20
I do hope you get better soon. Heart attacks are always hellish. I do give credit to Alice for insisting you stay in bed- good woman. She must really care about you.

With regards to a visit, that might be nice- however, I'm not sure about security- I can sense that the situation towards Sevaris has deteriorated somewhat- mainly from intelligence we gathered about your father ranting about us. I doubt it's real, but I am a tad concerned.

-Alec Mannerheim


"Curtis is about as dangerous as a declawed cat, he could still bite you, but only if you get close enough and provoke him."

Czar Roger Fabus