NationStates Jolt Archive

Troops have begun growing restless in this peaceful nation of 3+ billion pop nation.
This conversation was recorded on home video:
Soldier 1: To hell with peace. To hell with decency.
For 8 years we have been kind to our neighbors. Making sure the weakest nations were treated well.
Soldier 2: 8 years of providing international aid even to those who are undeserving.
Whole group of soldiers: Devil, that's hell.
To hell with peace. To hell with humanitarianism. To hell with the Geneva Conventions. To hell with the WHittier Convention. To hell with free trade.
Soldier with a gloomy look on his face: Its been a depressing all the way, these last 8 years of peace. And its getting gloomier everyday.
Soldier 4: Oh but to burn a little town, kill a dozen men. Oh anything to be able to smile and laugh again. Oh to hell with the peace.
Soldier 5 ( a tall lanky fellow): When I think of all the fun things that earlier filled my life. Like the time I disemboweled a man who was raping and torturing a naked woman and her three little babes. I can still here woman say, not moving from where she lay, "Please tell me sir how I can repay your kindness."
To hell with peace. To hell with good. To hell with human rights. To hell with the Geneva Convention. Let their be war all the way.
A Sgt: Corruption and torture have been outlawed. Not an innocent is ever again in fear of death. Little girls can wander the streets unmolested. This is frustrating. To hell with peace.
A shangian soldier: O how we loved to fight and brawl in Shangia. Where we had the best fighters were in Shangia. And we'd have anything goes matches in Shangia where there were no rules. Ah but my heart is still in my homeland of Shangia where the women were the best on Blueberry Hill in Shangia. And they were best at blowing someone's pipe.
Other soldiers: To hell with Shangia. To hell with Shangia.
Soldier 1 again: No does any wrong now. Every soul in Rudolfensia is gold and pure. There is not to be found anyone with guilt now. To hell with peace.
Soldier 7: There's not an evil to deplore. Depression is suddenly a bore. Ah but to spend an evening being tortured and staring at the floor. Guilty and alive once more.
All soldiers chime in: To hell with peace. To hell with virtue. To hell with virginity. To hell with abstinence. To hell compassion. To hell with humanity. To hell religion. To hell with treaties. To hell with mercy. To hell with justice. TO hell with peace. To hell with world stability. We Want War. War all the way.

As you can see, these troops are eager to see some action against the RWC.

There has been no official response from the government which is currently debating war with RWC.

Today, the government has ordered the mobilization of the armed forces pending coming military action against a certain rogue state guilty of having weapons of mass destruction and supporting imperialist terrorist regimes.

Offical Goverment Response
*bursts out laughing on the floor*
Transmission Ended

The U.S.S., having thrown up sparks with a previous confrontation with Rudolfensia, now once again orders full mobilization as a precaution.

The U.S.S is advised to act with caution, as placing one foot wrong at this perilous time could cause their entire world to come crashing down around them.

Is that a threat, McLeod3? The U.S.S. doesn't take kindly to threats.

Besides, aren't YOU threatened by Rudolfensia's restlessness yourselves?

<Encrypted Response>
To: USS
From: King Michael Mcleod

Fear not little one. I do not make threats. Simply promises. Myself, as an ally of Rudolfensia, hold no fear. Even if I were not his ally, I would not be trying to antagonise the situation by ordering full mobilisations. Such actions led to the current AMF vs Macabean Empire situation. I simply advise you to tread more lightly in international affairs.

The government of Rudolfensia hereby demands the unconditional surrender of the supporter of terrorists, the nation of Maccabees.
We are not out to take over Maccabees, we just want them to change to a socialist government and abandon RWC.
Our forces are being prepared to invade the Maccabees and arrest their leader who will tried for warcrimes.

The U.S.S is advised to act with caution, as placing one foot wrong at this perilous time could cause their entire world to come crashing down around them.
The government of Rudolfensia invites the government of McLeod03 to join our crusade to rid the world of the accursed Maccabees and bring their leader to justice.

The government of Rudolfensia hereby demands the unconditional surrender of the supporter of terrorists, the nation of Maccabees.
We are not out to take over Maccabees, we just want them to change to a socialist government and abandon RWC.
Our forces are being prepared to invade the Maccabees and arrest their leader who will tried for warcrimes.

OoC:

*grins*

Keep dreaming, but your invited to try. :)

OoC:

*grins*

Keep dreaming, but your invited to try. :)
I wouldn't grin. You are number 2 on my target list.

<Encrypted Response>
To: USS
From: King Michael Mcleod

Fear not little one. I do not make threats. Simply promises. Myself, as an ally of Rudolfensia, hold no fear. Even if I were not his ally, I would not be trying to antagonise the situation by ordering full mobilisations. Such actions led to the current AMF vs Macabean Empire situation. I simply advise you to tread more lightly in international affairs.
you have a telegram.

The U.S.S., having thrown up sparks with a previous confrontation with Rudolfensia, now once again orders full mobilization as a precaution.

ooc: You order full mobilization as a precaution? Isn't that a bit excessive? I feel sorry for the taxpayers of your nation, who lose billions everytime your government feels it needs to take "precautionary" measures.

OOC: Replied.

Mobilizing forces consist of:
5 million infantry
5,000 M1A2's
20,000 air medevac vehicles
15 Ticonderoga class aircraft carriers
50 Yorktown Class aircraft carriers (holds 95 planes)
50 Arizona Class Batteship
400 Kirov class nuclear powered cruisers
200 Ticonderoga II class Aegis cruisers
500 Arliegh Burke Aegis guided missile destroyers
100 Farragut Class Aegis Stealth Destroyers
300 Galaxy class nuclear stealth subs
300 Seawolf class attack subs


5,000 Apache Attack Helicopters
4,500 F117 Knighthawks Stealthfighters
1000 B1 bombers
3,000 WASP Stealth Attack Choppers (purchased from Gforce4)
7,000 AV-8B Harrier bombers
20,000 F-111 Multipurpose tactical fighter bombers
500 B-2 multirole fighterbombers
1,000 B52 Stratofortresses
2,000 F35 Joint Strike Fighters
200,000 RIM-18ANSAM Surface to Air Radar Guided Missiles (for destroyers and Aegis Cruisers)

ooc: You ain't making me surrender...No AMF is going down! *Chokes on peanut and dies*:(

ooc: You ain't making me surrender...No AMF is going down! *Chokes on peanut and dies*:(

OOC:

"....and there was much rejoicing"
"yay"

evil laugh

Field Marshall Putnik, CinC of the Vollmerian Armed Forces:

"The Emperor makes no statements in international affairs if it doesnt interest him, and so far he has never made any international statement! today however, for the first time, he sends his message to the international community"

"Peace and Stability is what we wanted, what we tried to get but the nation of Rudolfensia refuses accept this, and starts its warmongering campaign against the RWC and thus against the Empire... and for what reason? They want to attack the Macabees, and fail to see they are no longer a member of the RWC."

I have ordered my commanders to mobilize the Imperial forces, so they stand ready, should Rudolfensia continue its agressive actions towards me and my allies."

"The Emperor has returned to his palace in the mountains and refuses to make any more statements."

Field Marshall Putnik, CinC of the Vollmerian Armed Forces:

"The Emperor makes no statements in international affairs if it doesnt interest him, and so far he has never made any international statement! today however, for the first time, he sends his message to the international community"

"Peace and Stability is what we wanted, what we tried to get but the nation of Rudolfensia refuses accept this, and starts its warmongering campaign against the RWC and thus against the Empire... and for what reason? They want to attack the Macabees, and fail to see they are no longer a member of the RWC."

I have ordered my commanders to mobilize the Imperial forces, so they stand ready, should Rudolfensia continue its agressive actions towards me and my allies."

"The Emperor has returned to his palace in the mountains and refuses to make any more statements."

The President of Rudolfensia scoffs at the Vollmerian military.

Mobilizing forces consist of:
5 million infantry
5,000 M1A2's
20,000 air medevac vehicles
15 Ticonderoga class aircraft carriers
50 Yorktown Class aircraft carriers (holds 95 planes)
50 Arizona Class Batteship
400 Kirov class nuclear powered cruisers
200 Ticonderoga II class Aegis cruisers
500 Arliegh Burke Aegis guided missile destroyers
100 Farragut Class Aegis Stealth Destroyers
300 Galaxy class nuclear stealth subs
300 Seawolf class attack subs


5,000 Apache Attack Helicopters
4,500 F117 Knighthawks Stealthfighters
1000 B1 bombers
3,000 WASP Stealth Attack Choppers (purchased from Gforce4)
7,000 AV-8B Harrier bombers
20,000 F-111 Multipurpose tactical fighter bombers
500 B-2 multirole fighterbombers
1,000 B52 Stratofortresses
2,000 F35 Joint Strike Fighters
200,000 RIM-18ANSAM Surface to Air Radar Guided Missiles (for destroyers and Aegis Cruisers)


OOC: n00b...Jesus Christ, how are you supposed to move FIVE MILLION soldiers, each soldier will need about 3 letres of water per day, 3 square meals, ammunition and the like yet you have the logistical power to mobilise five MILLION men and then keep them supplied with food and water, not to mention ammunition, I don't think so.

Rethink, jesus...young or old, some n00bs never grow up and still stick to their "I play with millions" army. I'm sorry, I know this was very harsh but you seriously need to rethink those numbers.

EDIT: I take back my "n00b" remarks, those were cruel products of a grumpy mind but my criticisms still stand.

I'm wondering where he puts all those aircraft, 30.000 planes on 65 carriers. I calculated it and i end up with 461, impressive for a carrier that can hold only 95 planes

OOC: n00b...Jesus Christ, how are you supposed to move FIVE MILLION soldiers, each soldier will need about 3 letres of water per day, 3 square meals, ammunition and the like yet you have the logistical power to mobilise five MILLION men and then keep them supplied with food and water, not to mention ammunition, I don't think so.

Rethink, jesus...young or old, some n00bs never grow up and still stick to their "I play with millions" army. I'm sorry, I know this was very harsh but you seriously need to rethink those numbers.

EDIT: I take back my "n00b" remarks, those were cruel products of a grumpy mind but my criticisms still stand.
OOC: Although in RL this is impossible i see no real reason why on NS it should not happen. I mean sure, you would need thousands of personal in administration alone at the very top of the chain, but if your nation is large enough and you have some experiance of this kind of mobilisation, it would be possible(to my mind anyway)

My point is mainly that if you cant mobilise 5million troops to attack a nation which has 10million troops there is no way that you can win that war...lets say my military had 60million personnel in it(just under 3% of my pop for this) but these troops are also required to do some work for the nation other than their military activities, so you can afford them. If several nations put together can send 5million troops all acting as one one but independantly, why couldnt you split your military up like that in such a way so they act as one but have seperate supply methods etc?

I wouldn't grin. You are number 2 on my target list.

OoC: I have little to fear from you realy, you'll notice later on why.

I'm wondering where he puts all those aircraft, 30.000 planes on 65 carriers. I calculated it and i end up with 461, impressive for a carrier that can hold only 95 planes
3/4 of what he put aren't carrier planes :rolleyes:

3/4 of what he put aren't carrier planes :rolleyes:
True, and also, he made a few mistakes with what he put...does Gforce4 still make planes? i remember his nation got deleted and i dont know if he ever used another one instead....

OOC: Although in RL this is impossible i see no real reason why on NS it should not happen. I mean sure, you would need thousands of personal in administration alone at the very top of the chain, but if your nation is large enough and you have some experiance of this kind of mobilisation, it would be possible(to my mind anyway)

My point is mainly that if you cant mobilise 5million troops to attack a nation which has 10million troops there is no way that you can win that war...lets say my military had 60million personnel in it(just under 3% of my pop for this) but these troops are also required to do some work for the nation other than their military activities, so you can afford them. If several nations put together can send 5million troops all acting as one one but independantly, why couldnt you split your military up like that in such a way so they act as one but have seperate supply methods etc?

OOC: Think about it though, you need 3 litres of water per for every soldier now, times that by 5 million and you have 15,000,000 litres PER DAY for these soldiers, you simply can't ship that much water out, it would take OIL TANKERS to carry that much damn water or something else that is large, slow and vulnerable.

Also, just to let you know, in NS, numberwanking is very often ignored, while this is "free-form," if you actually stray from the guidelines laid out by the higer players, you get branded n00b so you have to colour in the lines if you want your picture to look pretty to the NS community.

Mobilizing forces consist of:
5 million infantry
5,000 M1A2's
20,000 air medevac vehicles
15 Ticonderoga class aircraft carriers
50 Yorktown Class aircraft carriers (holds 95 planes)
50 Arizona Class Batteship
400 Kirov class nuclear powered cruisers
200 Ticonderoga II class Aegis cruisers
500 Arliegh Burke Aegis guided missile destroyers
100 Farragut Class Aegis Stealth Destroyers
300 Galaxy class nuclear stealth subs
300 Seawolf class attack subs


5,000 Apache Attack Helicopters
4,500 F117 Knighthawks Stealthfighters
1000 B1 bombers
3,000 WASP Stealth Attack Choppers (purchased from Gforce4)
7,000 AV-8B Harrier bombers
20,000 F-111 Multipurpose tactical fighter bombers
500 B-2 multirole fighterbombers
1,000 B52 Stratofortresses
2,000 F35 Joint Strike Fighters
200,000 RIM-18ANSAM Surface to Air Radar Guided Missiles (for destroyers and Aegis Cruisers)


Prepare the I.G.N.O.R.E Cannon, Capitian!!

The military he posted is within reason for his population and budget.

OOC: n00b...Jesus Christ, how are you supposed to move FIVE MILLION soldiers, each soldier will need about 3 letres of water per day, 3 square meals, ammunition and the like yet you have the logistical power to mobilise five MILLION men and then keep them supplied with food and water, not to mention ammunition, I don't think so.

Rethink, jesus...young or old, some n00bs never grow up and still stick to their "I play with millions" army. I'm sorry, I know this was very harsh but you seriously need to rethink those numbers.

EDIT: I take back my "n00b" remarks, those were cruel products of a grumpy mind but my criticisms still stand.
Out of an army of 20 million? out of 20 mill 5 mill are combat troops the rest are support. I you look at my stats I am sure you will see I can do this. but moving the whole 5 mill will take some time. Won't be all at once.

3/4 of what he put aren't carrier planes :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: There are no maps for the people in these conflicts yet he already knows he can reach them from landbases?

OOC: Rudolfensia, do you have an area of the world you locate yourself?

:rolleyes: There are no maps for the people in these conflicts yet he already knows he can reach them from landbases?
OOC: Its called posturing.

OOC: Rudolfensia, do you have an area of the world you locate yourself?
US West Coast but it will take me some time to get to him depending on where he is.

:rolleyes: There are no maps for the people in these conflicts yet he already knows he can reach them from landbases?
Due to in flight refueling, most aircraft have unlimited range

And then there is always the multiple dimensional theory which shrinks the jupiter sized NS earth down to real size when needed. ;)