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The Tides of War Rise {ATTN: ZARBIA}

Pantera
06-12-2004, 04:39
As the Lord Reaver's declaration of war sounded across Pantera and the world, the fleet sitting at anchor off of northern Automagfreek set sail. Though most of the Reavers aboardships had never heard of this 'Zarbia', they were still prepared to scour their lands with flame.

While the main force of the fleet was still in Automagfreek waters, another, smaller fleet was already steaming ahead. These ships were the advance forces of the Panteran force, the vanguard of the Reaver fleet. Comprised of sixteen of the Lord Reaver's own Plunder Class Warships, they soon pulled far ahead of the main force. They made speed that most navies could only gape at, and they would keep this pace through the black of night and into the grey of dawn, to arrive in Zarbian waters sometime near dusk of the following day.

As the great warships cut through the waters toward Zarbia, the Lord Reaver himself addressed the Zarbian nation:

Zarbian citizens, I am Dayne the Evenstar, Lord of Pantera and the Scourge of God. Your government has condemned you to death at my hands, and die you shall. However, I am not without mercy. Should you choose to surrender, I will treat you gently. There will be no rape or pillage, only peace. Your government will be allowed to continue the governing of Zarbia, and your armies will continue to stand.

I will, however, require a full surrender and homage due me as Conqueror. My Reavers are well versed in destroying nations such as your own, and will do so with little trouble. Know that, and know also that should you choose to defy me and force me to sear you, that mercy will be forgotten.

Justice will be done. Wether your nation remains whole is entirely up to you. Stand and die horribly, condemning millions to their deaths, or kneel and recieve my gracious mercy. Think of the millions of children inhabiting your lands. Think of their continued laughter and mirth... Or think of their screams and the stench of their charred bodies.

The choice, Zarbia, is left to your government.

Dayne the Evenstar
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War


{OOC: Posted here in II because apparently this is where the bulk of the conflict is going down.}
Automagfreek
06-12-2004, 04:42
{Badass-TAG-of-vengeance}
Samtonia
06-12-2004, 04:52
To: AMF, NATO nations and other allies, Zarbia, International Community
Re: Zarbia

First, we here in Samtonia City would like to congratulate Zarbia for being the most pompous, idiotic wrech of a nation that has ever deigned to walk the earth. Declare war on AMF withour provocation? That friends is sheer lunacy.

But hear this. As befitting our status as an allie of AMF and a member nation of NATO, we do now extend AMF's policies and actions throughout this crisis. Our armies, as numerous as the stars in the skies and the grains of sand on the beach, are pledged to AMF's cause. By Damien we were accepted into NATO, by Damien we will stand victorious.

As such, both I and Field Marshall Dalton proposed this day of Our Lord to the Council of Thirteen the following, the entirety of which was accepted.


1. That an unconditional state of war exist between all nations at war with AMF and Samtonia.
2. That Samtonia will follow AMF's policy towards these nations until surrender is achieved.
3. That Samtonia will pledge loyalty to our illustrious ally, AMF.
Samtonian Council of Thirteen

As per this decleration of loyalty, we prepare our forces to march. Our ships, already at sea for the most part, will assemble and move towards a meeting with destiny.

For actions undertaken wrongfully against our ally AMF, and for the punishment promised by AMF against any nation undertaking such an action, Samtonia does officialy declare its intent to burn the very existance of Zarbia from the annals of history.

We give Zarbia one week to evacuate their civilians or surrender unconditionally to both Samtonia, AMF, and our allies. Let all know this! Leniency was offered by Samtonia- if not accepted, it is Zarbia's own stupidity preventing their survival.

With God's tools, we shall smite the foe and his families down. With God's chosen warriors, we shall walk triumphant over the ruined fields of Zarbia. And with God's molten rain of cleansing flame, we shall purge the vile corner of Earth known as Zarbia.

So it is written, so it shall be.

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Field Marshal James Dalton, Defense Minister

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Minister X, Leader of Samtonian Council of Thirteen
Vastiva
06-12-2004, 05:04
Sorties of F-125 Gyrafalcons began tight patrols of the Zerbian Tanzania border, flying from bases in South Africa and Madagascar. The ports saw flights appear every twenty minutes, fly near - in international waters, but near nonetheless - while not one but two Vastivan Guillen battleships with their supporting fleet appeared from behind Madagascar and showed their colors.

Message Broadcast to Zerbian Tanzania

Be it known, Vastiva considers itself bound by the Declaration by AMF and the offer given by Samtonia. As such, we grant you a weeks time to surrender in good order, or hostilities will commence in earnest.

During this time, your ports and commerce are to be interdicted and stopped by Vastivan fleets. The cargo and membership will not be harmed except in the case of armed resistance, which will be quelled by extreme force.

We give this offer, and will respect it as such. We trust to your capacity to see reason.

Respectfully,
Fleet Admiral Sif Mesfin al-Din
Commander
4th Vastivan Fleet
Military Governor of South Africa and Madagascar
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
Zarbia
06-12-2004, 19:43
President Trotzig sat in the control room surrounded by his best military advisors. They had been discussing the present situation when they were interrupted by the incoming message from the Lord of Pantera. Trotzig stood up and strolled to the window, his eyes blazing with anger.

"Sir, what do we do? Do we surrender?" asked General Kronsky, his voice sounding weak.

"No, there's no use now," Trotzig replied, "Death is imminent."

Kronsky shook his head. "Opposing so many, can we win?" The General had seen wars like this, they never turned out well for those who were outnumbered.

"We must try, General. This will be hard-fought and many will perish, but we cannot fail our allies."

Admiral Talonov spoke up, "Are the Macabees really worth the sacrifice of our nation, sir? We are giving up so much for what seems to be so little."

"How dare you, Admiral! The Macabees has been there whenever we needed an ally. We cannot and will not withdraw from this, we have waded far into this river of death and destruction, we cannot turn back now. Complete the defence of Zarbia, we have no choice."

Trotzig paused and turned back to the window. "Death is imminent," he repeated to himself.

OOC: None of you are FT, are you?
Belem
06-12-2004, 20:40
ooc: tag in support of a fellow RWC member.
Eredron
07-12-2004, 00:09
[tag]
Safehaven2
07-12-2004, 00:49
Safehaven will stand by Zarbia, another close ally. Together Havenites and Zarbians had fought on the battlefield before and Zarbians will noot be allowed n this coming field alone. Multiple divisions and aircraft have been sent via air transport to Zarbia and all forces already in Zarbian territory are on full alert for war. As such any nation that declares war on Zarbia declares war on Safehaven2 and war will be declared back. And finally to offialize the current stuation Safehaven2 officially declares war on AutoMagFreak.

OOC: Just a big tag for future surport.
Tyrandis
07-12-2004, 00:52
Secure Transmission to Pantera


PRIORITY: FLASH
AUTHORIZATION: Charlie-Tango-Bravo-India

FROM: Fleet Admiral Utada Hikaru, TNAVCOM
TO: Dayne the Evenstar
RE: Situation in Zarbia

Text as follows:
Due to our defensive pact with AMF, a Tyrandisan fleet will link up with your own forces at approx. 0800 hours tomorrow. They have brought a full-strength Army Corps, to aid in the ultimate conquest and annihilation of the Zarbian nation.

(OOC: Will post more later)
Pantera
07-12-2004, 02:04
The communique from Tyrandis came as the Reaver advance fleet cut steam and broke formation, just outside of Zarbian waters. Aknowledging the message, they forwarded it to the main fleet, some eighteen hours behind.

The sixteen massive warships broke into four battlegroups and seperated, putting a few miles between themselves and settling to wait for further orders. They knew what they would be, when they came, but they waited for confirmation nonetheless.

Back with the main force of the Reaver fleet, Caval the Warhound, Lord Captain of Panteran forces, was displeased. The Samtonian government had issued their own timeframe, one that much far more generous than the Lord Reaver's. Not that it mattered, of course. He held the command here, and the assault would begin when he decided.

It would be soon. That much was certain. His main force closed on Zarbian waters and with his advance force already close enough to begin maneuvers, he was in a position to again demand surrender.

His message was curt:

Zarbian citizens, I am Caval the Warhound, and I tire of waiting. I await your surrender eagerly, however, my Reavers are not so inclined. Already they clamor for the lives of your soldiers and to taste the sweet tears of their wives and daughters.

Time grows shorter, Zarbia. We have offered you the mercy of the Lord Reaver, and should you quit your defenses, you shall have it. There will be no rape or plunder, only peace. Continue this charade of defiance, and you will feel the bludgeon of the Lord Reaver's wrath. Will you surrender, or must we scourge you?

As the message was broadcast the Hound ordered his fleet to increase speed while his iron vanguard of the sixteen Plunder class warships tightened down and prepared for the rendezvous with the fleet from Tyrandis.
Safehaven2
07-12-2004, 03:11
OOC: Pantera, is this off of his home nation or his African colonies?
Pantera
07-12-2004, 03:29
OOC: His mainland, I suppose, as Tyrandis seems to have things under control in Tanzania. Problems?
Tyrandis
07-12-2004, 03:57
OOC: His mainland, I suppose, as Tyrandis seems to have things under control in Tanzania. Problems?

OOC: Meh. It's always the mainland, since attacking colonies is a waste of time. If/when the primary base is destroyed, perhaps the surviving colonies will be less foolhardy and surrender.
Samtonia
07-12-2004, 05:10
CODED TRANSMISSION
EYES ONLY
FLASH BURST ENCODING
LOGARYTHMS 01.32.b IN EFFECT
TRANSMITTING TO CAVAL THE WARHOUND

As much as I don't like this, it seems apparent our political masters have decided to employ a joint strategy. And although I still say Samtonia could do it alone, we're here to initiate Operation: Heavenly Ruin. Jointly.

My flotilla, about five sailing hours away, is to engage defenses and blow away a landing area to kingdom come. We'll suggest beach 57, at Waypoint 12. You'll see it included in the materials sent to you by your superiors, which also give strategic oversight on the cleansing of Zarbia.

As I'm such a loose cannon, they've given me command and are letting the generals filter down information to me as seen fit. Luckily, I'm still a Field Marshal. So what you get is what I've got. Nothing is being witheld. You'll notice the storming of the beach falls to your Reavers and although you can charge early if you want, I'd suggest waiting about a day for the main thrust.

There won't be too much to mop up after the Samtonian Artillery Corps does their job. Any and all replies are to be sent to this same source, on board my Command Dreadnought Death. I suggest you sit back and watch. You and your men will be able to see what happens when the Four Horsemen ride firsthand.

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Field Marshal James Dalton, Defense Minister
Schultaria Prime
07-12-2004, 05:21
OOC: Since Schultaria Prime is also located in a position similar to RL Madagascar, we'll proceed with offensive operations coupled with Vastiva from this point. Numbers will be posted if they're needed later onward in this RP.

-Kerga-Islandiapermex, Islandia Schultaria

No Islandian or Schultarian citizen alive had ever even thought of war, but now the realization was sinking in that the nation was truly committed for the long haul. As the remnants of the secondary escort fleet remained to complete the remainder of their restocking, the port crews seemed to be running on no more than pure adrenaline and caffeine; of course they had run countless drills simulating scenarios of this nature before, but the scale of the task they were working on truly baffled them. While cargo containers filled with emergency rations and fuel were being loaded onto several of the straggling logistics ships the commander of the First Schultarian Battle Fleet, Rear Admiral Jawoah Codo, had a respite from the incessant activity on shore.

Taking a small puff from his worn and nicked pipe, the Admiral gazed at the sparkling deep blue waters of the Southern Indian ocean in absolute respect. Despite the knowledge he would be responsible for the potential shortened fates of thousands of Schultarians, he knew that nature would forget the folly of man eventually. Smiling as the sun peaked out of the powered gray clouds, the Admiral called to his fleet controllers for a final status report.

The fleet assembled was massive by all Schultarian standards, but quite limited compared to the fleets of its allies; given the suddenness of the nation's orders to mobilize, the SKC had decided that the best course of action would involve a simultaneous suppression of undersea as well as air operations. Therefore, the majority of the battle fleet was designed towards the protection of the two carrier groups and 2 submarine wolf packs that would soon leave to patrol the Tanzanian border. While it wasn't exactly the long range deployment most of the sailors had come to expect, the risks were anticipated to the significant enough to provide an additional re-supply run before deployment.

Signaling to his chief communications officer, a secure transmission was relayed to Vastiva.


This is Rear Admiral Jawoah Codo, commander of the Kerga Naskehdex Dreadnaught SSS Tah'kiea'leiah and fleet commander of First Schultarian Battle Fleet. Our orders from SKC headquarters in Schultaria Prime are to coordinate with your assault fleets to provide a quick resolution to any potential conflict that might erupt in Zarbian Tanzania. As of now, the fleet is composed of two major components coupled with strategic intermediate range conventional missiles designed for maximum suppression of any advance ground assault. We would like to advise you that the Schultarian battle fleet, in less than 24 hours, will be completely supplied and able to withstand a continued campaign for at least 120 days if necessary.

Awaiting your response: Fleet Commander Codo
Vastiva
07-12-2004, 05:24
OOC: I think this means these colonies are interdicted solidly.
Belem
07-12-2004, 05:37
IC: Two Imperial Fleets are being directed towards the coast of Zarbia in order to assist with defense of Zarbian prime.

Air Fleets are being prepared to begin supplying Zarbia with logisitical supplies for the war as well as preparing 4 Armored divisions for immediate relocation to Zarbia.

ooc: more in depth stuff coming tommorow.
Pantera
07-12-2004, 07:33
The Hound's coded reply to the Samtonian Field Marshal was brief and to the point:

Good to have you, Dalton. Shame they didn't kneel. Now they burn. 57-12 confirmed. Main Reaver fleet is three hours out. Scorch that breach and we'll make ourselves at home. Confirmed 24 hours to establish. We'll see you ashore.

-Warhound

It would be good to have Samtonia aboard for the operation. After all someone had to clean up the remnants after his Reavers annihilated the Zarbian military.

And Belem? The notion was almost humorous. Who the fuck were they trying to fool? He wondered.
Vastiva
07-12-2004, 11:08
OOC:Are these colonies, or the bulk of the nation?
Zarbia - Western Egypt
Zarbia - Angola
Zarbia - Zambia
Zarbia - Tanzania

If they are colonies, there will be two fronts. And I'd like to know where the main nation is, generically speaking.
Momanguise
07-12-2004, 12:50
Tis now the very witching time of night,
When churchyards yawn and hell itself breathes out
Contagion to this world: now could I drink hot blood,
And do such bitter business as the day
Would quake to look on.

The slow progress of the fleet, gliding with silence through the inky blackness of the midnight waters signalled a greater action. Invasion. Pillage. Slaughter. The time ran and the tolling knell of death was to come to Zarbia, as the first nation would be smited underfoot by the combined armies of the greatest alliance that the world had ever seen. As the steady machines of death moved ever onwards, the fate of the balance of the worlds power hangs in the balance, and the fires of war have been lit, and none shall escape their indiscriminate consumation.
The Merchant Guilds
07-12-2004, 13:02
The Guild base in West Egypt where the 4th Legion had been stationed only be recently replaced by 52nd was in a state of uproar. The Shadowlord had order neutrality by the Guilders but the 52nd chomped at the bit, the impudent Panterans and their allies should be made to feel what an chemical shell exploding above your head did to you...

They obeyed their orders thought, they were to act purely in self-defense but they decided as a precaution to heavily mine the mile perimeter around their base and to set up their anti-Aerial and anti-tank equipment as well the pintle-mounted 'Star Rattle' Heavy Machine guns.

The medical and religious corps were already organising the facilities for the wounded and dying in this conflict. A large area outside the perimeter had been alloted as a graveyard, men already had begun to dig hundreds of holes for the dead to be buried in.

It would be bloody and as Gurlain Trect surveyed his troopers readying the area, he felt a twinge of pride, if anybody dared to convene their neutrality they would pay with their lives it was that simple...
Belem
07-12-2004, 17:04
OOC: Zarbia do you have a map of your country?

IC: The two Imperial fleets have arrived at Positions aprroximately 200 miles off the coast of Zarbia, they are positoned 50 miles apart as not to prevent one large target but close enough to still support each other in case of a heavy attack.

The fleets submarine shield and accompayning wolfpacks establishes a 10 mile perimeter around the fleet while ASW choppers begin deploying sonar buoys at a 20 mile perimeter.

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Meanwhile in Belem hundreds of air cargo transports continue there round the clock flights delivering supplies, weapons and troops to Zarbia. The Ultra Heavy Pelican transports providing the bulk of the troop transports capable of holding and delivering 25 tanks at a time. On Paper it was possible to transport an entire division in a day but in practice it took a week or two to get the neccessary supply troops into position.

Imperial engineers have begun the construction of Belem forward bases in preparation for the arrival of the air wings and hundreds of thousands of logistical forces and engineers.

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4 EMP satelites are being thrust into position over Zarbia.

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OOC data:

Each Fleet has:
4 Intrepid Class carriers
4 Fiery Avenger Missile Ships
4 Shield AA ships
4 Tracker ASW ships
20 Romulus Battleships
30 Legate Battlecruisers
40 Vesuvious Frigates
60 Centurion Heavy Destroyers
20 Velite Attack submarines.

Each fleet is backed up by 1 wolfpack apiece with 10 Lupine fast attack submarines. As well as numerous support and logistical ships about 30-40 per fleet.

Divisional information:
Each division has:
25 thousand troops(including vechile and artillery crews)
10 thousand of which are infantry
700 Crusader I tanks
700 Crusader II tanks
100 Lancer Medium tanks
1000 Cavalier IFVs
500 Towed Artillery pieces
500 Self propelled Artillery pieces
100 Nightshade Attack Choppers
100 Blackhawk choppers
12 Starlight Laser warfare units

In addition to the 4 divisions being deployed are over 250 thousand logisitcal troops and engineers being flown in to support them. As well as 5 thousand Inquisitors.

Air Wing:
(this is in addition to the Carrier Air Wing)
100 Viper Interceptors
250 F-40 Vampire Air Supremacy Fighters
250 F-42 Tiger Shark Multi Role Fighters
imported_ViZion
07-12-2004, 17:08
OOC:Are these colonies, or the bulk of the nation?
Zarbia - Western Egypt
Zarbia - Angola
Zarbia - Zambia
Zarbia - Tanzania

If they are colonies, there will be two fronts. And I'd like to know where the main nation is, generically speaking.
OOC: Hmm... is Zarbia on a diff Earth? (I'm on the original one..) considering I own Angola, Zambia and Tanzania too...
Belem
07-12-2004, 17:10
ooc: I think Zarbia is Earth II
The Merchant Guilds
07-12-2004, 18:57
OOC: This is the context of the general war and is occuring at all Guild bases, just I thought I'd write it to this thread because it's interesting to do so.

Secret IC:

A single Doombringer touched down at one of the landing strips of the Guild base. It carried the usual amount of food and additonal ammunitions etc but also a heavy case. Inside that heavy case, were heavily protected vials of the Guilds mysterious virus, developed over 200 years and at a cost of over 4 million lives directly and indirectly.

The instructions that came over the most secure channel on the Shadow Link network were as follows:

To: All Shadow bases in nations currently involved with the AMF wars.

You are to still help all persons of any nation whom are wounded in the current conflict, whilst you are maintaining this cover. We want you to take genetic samples from any AutoMagFreakian Sentinals you treat. Our allies in the war will be sending us sentinal corpses, we prefer them alive but dead they will still serve our purpose. Once you have treated them, they are to released into AutoMagFreakian custody or one of his allies, if he will allow it. If not keep them confined in a specialist prison bloc until such time as they become useful, if they don't prove useful at all. They will be picked up via Overlord transport for experiments on Z'ha'dum. Once it has been developed, you will send it to Alpha Colony, where it will be mass produced then we will give you samples to inject into sentinals when the time is right. We will also be using the test firing of a few new missles varients into the atmostsphere as a guise to put the virus in sufficent quantities for the planet into the atmosphere.

You will destroy these creations of Damien Dreadfire in the way nature intended...

Regards,

Lord Stra'coth.

OOC:

I'd like to say before this gets flamed, this virus was created when I was MT and since I still use MT forces with MT equipment with a MT island etc. This is proven by my old factbook and the fact that nobody complained about it then... ive also mentioned it in several RP's.

I will talk more about the Virus in due course, thank you.
Automagfreek
07-12-2004, 19:37
OOC: LOL! You create a virus to target the Sentinels? You do realize that Sentinels are just regular human beings, right? The ONLY modifications done are removing genetically inherited flaws, such as genetically inherited diseases. Reason for this being is that AMF does not want to have to treat every Sentinel for Alzheimer's when they reach a certian age, so the DNA is sifted through and the defect removed, get it? That and they are all genetically 'programmed' to look alike and be of the same height.

Simple and easy to understand, and I have stated for the past YEAR that they are NOT super soldiers. Creating a virus that targets ONLY Sentinels is as godmoddish as making a virus that targets black people, old people, Jews, etc.

LOL!
Zarbia
07-12-2004, 19:42
"Sir, we have intercepted a message from the nation of Tyrandis to Pantera," Alex Yalnov reported to his commanding officer. "
Mikhail Jaroslav, the commanding officer, rushed over to the young Yalnov. His eyes ran over what was displayed on the computer screen.
"Are you sure about this?" It was entirely possible that Tyrandis had sent this message as a decoy.
"Yes sir, it was intercepted about eight minutes ago. I cracked it, it looks genuine enough," replied Yalnov.
Jaroslav nodded. "Relay it to forward command, let them know." He watched as Yalnov proceded to do his bidding. "Tyrandis wants war again it seems, obviously the lesson was not learned."

Open transmission to Tyrandis
Central Command, Zarbia

Tyrandis is the clear aggressor in this situation where no action has been taken against or concerns Tyrandis. These steps are uncalled for and will not be viewed warmly by the international community. We ask that you do not procede with your actions or further steps will be taken. We did not originally wish to involve any alliances but when a brother nation is attacked, its allies come to arms. This is your first and only warning.

ooc: continued later. check post for updates.
Schultaria Prime
07-12-2004, 19:52
-Kerga-Islandiapermex, Islandia Schultaria

As the last remaining logistics ships pulled out of the harbor tensions began to immediately rise amongst the crews of the battle fleet. Despite the amount of money that had been poured into constant training, every person knew (or at least had some faint inkling) that combat was a different animal entirely. While most of the sailors and soldiers were engaged either in idle conversation about the upcoming action or gambling in the holds below deck, Admiral Codo paced about the bridge of the Tah'kiea'leiah with growing anxiousness. Feeling somewhat indecisive, he decided to contact fleet command about his options.

The Admiral did not want to engage in a first strike policy, and he made it clear to his superiors on the mainland. Reassuringly, the Admiralty of the SKC reinforced that the Schultarian presence on Tanzania would only be "to keep the peace and protect our allies whenever necessary." Still, Codo was ill at ease moored in the waters between Islandia Schultaria and Zarbian Tanzania. To calm his nerves, he poured himself a shot of gin and drank it without thinking. "I guess I might be doing this a lot in the next few weeks," he thought stoically.

Meanwhile the rest of the Schultarian Defense Forces were beginning to prepare for the contingency of a strategic attack on the mainland nations. Schultarian Orbital Command, the SKC's space defense wing and precursor to the Schultarian Space Administration, had begun the preparations for a massive orbital defense initiative in earnest. Eight hundred kilometers above the surfaces of Egypt and Tanzania, fifteen Kamor-IBBEM kinetic anti-missile satellites began to silently assume their positions to insure proper coverage of the billions of Schultarian civilians.

*****

At the same time, two unmanned reconnaissance aircraft were launched from airbases in Padersonia on a one way trip to Tanzania. Their payloads were not deadly, but the leadership of Schultaria Prime hoped that they would begin the process of dissention amongst the Zarbian ranks. Within each plane, over 90,000 leaflets were bundled for dispersal; inside they contained messages of peace and harmony translated into every major language used by the Zarbian government. The Schultarian leadership hoped that these first "peaceful" sorties would do more to soften resistance than any amount of munitions would ever do.

OOC: Some examples of the propaganda that will be distributed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/emschultz/together.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/emschultz/MediaWar3.jpg
imported_ViZion
07-12-2004, 20:00
ooc: I think Zarbia is Earth II
OOC: k, cool, thx
Zarbia
07-12-2004, 23:15
Central Zarbian Command was delighted by the news of enemy fleets positioned a few hundred miles of the coast, it provided a chance to test the new weapons. Twenty Antigone Class Battleships waited in the Zanta Harbour, about to unleash a rain of fire and fury at the Panteran fleets.

Suddenly, each battleship fired ten Doomingsland made Deadfish II ASM missiles, the projectiles screaming towards Pantera's ships. The Zarbian military had been very impressed with the missiles, Doomingsland knew what they were doing.

As soon as the smoke cleared more would come...


OOC: Deadfish II ASM

Speed-Mach 3
Range-500 miles
Launch type-Ship
Propulsion-Rocket motor
Pantera
08-12-2004, 00:12
An onlooker might have smiled at the peace of the scene. The banners of the warships rippled, burgundy on black, in the stiff breeze of their movements, and the waters parted before them. Patrolling, Aboardship the Panterans were ready, as ever.

"Detected launch from coordinates 42-23, Enemy Sector Six. Shipboard defenses online. Numbers tracked at... Incoming in Five... Four... Three..."

As the four battlegroups broke formation and seperated, and the Zarbian missiles streaked down the horizon, the air about the ships exploded in a hundred-thousand fluffs of flak. A number of the missiles were caught in this 'fog o' flak' as the Reavers called it, their payloads wasted in the air. Then the automated-tracking of the ships guns came online and the turrets opened up, shredding even more of the Zarbian missiles.

The scene turned sour for the Panterans as another of the missiles slipped through a spot in the fog and got far too close before being taken by the Panteran guns. The explosion shook the warship Asshai and rained flame down on the decks. The concussion altered the targetting of the warship and another missile slammed into the hull, blanketing the stern of the ship in flames. Reavers ran to extinguish the fires and tend to the wounded as their fellows prepared to return fire. A few more of the Zarbian missiles got through the screen, but were mostly harmless. A number of the Reaver vanguard reported injuries, but damages were slight due to the iron defenses of their ships.

As the Hound recieved word that his vanguard had finally come under attack he checked his range to the Zarbian mainland. In range for his own return volley, without a doubt. His glance at the screen in front of him showed the trace of the enemy missile's path. In Harbor? Fools. His order was curt,"Target that volley and return fire with everything we have."

The Panteran transports fell back, beginning a small retreat to a safer distance, their carrier escort as well. The remainder of the mighty Panteran fleet confirmed their orders to scorch the harbor that the fire came from, and opened up. The vanguard of the Plunder Class Warships was already firing their deadly SunFlares, some thirty-six of them from each the sixteen warships. The frontline of of the main fleet, made of other Classes of warships and destroyers, let fly their salvos of Lancer-12 missiles, seventy-odd of them, while the smaller volleys of the forty-eight destroyers' assorted batteries let fly, each with a score of missiles.

As the deadly barrage shot into the sky, the Hound watched from his deck. The tracer-clouds of the missiles were beautiful, he thought, but he knew the Zarbians would not think so. Idiots. They had fired at him from harbor. Were they insane? The Harbor was a nice place to shelter a storm, but a battle was another matter. It would constrict the fleet, allowing little to no room to maneuver. With no way to put space between themselves, the Zarbian contingent would be coated in a blanket of fire. Even if nine-tenths of his volley was taken from the sky or missed completely, the Zarbian fleet was doomed, as well as anything else in or around the harbor.

The Hound's AtmosFighters were already screaming overhead, ready to annihilate any airborne threat to his fleet. He ordered the next deployment of his 'Fog-o'-flak' to be thicker, and for his A-M defenses to be readied again. He wanted no more damage done to his fleet, but doubted there was any threat of that. The combined fleets of Belem were smaller than his own, not to mention the incoming Field Marshall Dalton. All that was left was to wait for the impending report of the destruction of the Zarbian fleet, and the arrival of his Samtonian allies.
Eredron
08-12-2004, 00:18
OOC: Where is Zarbia located at on the map?
Belem
08-12-2004, 00:39
ooc: Pantera how many ships do you have in your fleet?
Pantera
08-12-2004, 01:03
In far Pantera, a second fleet had completed its preperations and was setting sail as it's own vanguard, some six hours distant, slid out of the Sunset Sea, and into International waters. This fleet was even larger than the first. Much larger, in fact. The Evenstar had pulled Pantera's Homeland Fleet from guarding the mainland and merged it with his personal Valhallan Fleet.

Still far from Zarbia, already the men aboard the ships were boasting of the loot they would plunder, the women they would take, and the blood they would spill. These men were born for moments like this, and they loved it.

In command of this fleet was Gaise Starshone, half-brother of the Lord Reaver and a mighty warrior in his own right. His flagship, Savage Henry, was one of the most powerful in the Panteran fleet, rivaled only by Seabitch and the Evenstar's own personal Warship, Forsaken.

He and the Warhound had worked together, and would be Pantera's twin spectres of death. Grim, merciless, and unstoppable.

{OOC: This great fleet's gathering was begun in AMF's other thread.

EDIT: Sorry belem, didn't see your post before I put this up. I'm not much of a number cruncher, so I'll just give general estimates. The initial fleet would number somewhere between 275-300 warships, not counting my transports, armored supply ships, a dozen or so carriers, and subs, the second fleet numbering about 400 warships, and their tagalongs mentioned previously, as I stripped a few other fleets bare to reenforce it. Remember, my entire nation concept based off of my naval capabilities, and always has been.}
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 01:41
Zarbian Airfields
Dozens of aircraft had been transfered to Zarbia with the recent AMF situation and they now sat deep underground in heavily reinforced UPH's. Their colonies had always been garrisonned with Havenite troops since the Eredron crisis and had stayed afterwards now being as permaneant a feature as the Zarbian troops stationed there. They had proven their worth once fighting Tyrandis in their move on Africa but since then they had been a piecefull part of Zarbian Africa.

Shrill sirens cut thru the midday air on airfields across Zarbia were Havenite aircraft had based themselves. Doens of havenite and Zarbian airmen and ground crew ran around gearing up the aircraft and manning the defenses. Huge elevators started bringing up fierce looking interceptors andlazy but heavily armed bombers. A F-133 Valkyrie sqaudron got the honor of being the first in the air. Quickly following dozens of EB-15 Arkbirds, F/A-128 Rain, F-125 Valks and more F-133. Each one of these aircraft were generations ahead of the modern day F-35 and F-22 and each of them were stealthier than those aircraft, stealthier even than a B-2. To add to this they were equipped with a system called Pallas Athena. An active radar canceling system, Pallas Athena is based around a superconducting "Cold Frame" computer of Dominion manufacture. Using primarily USCNE software, Pallas Athena cycles 600-times per second, responding to inbound radar signals with the appropriate return for the atmospheric conditions in which the aircraft is currently operating. Basically, it blends the aircraft/missile in with the surrounding sky.

The aircraft formed up cloe to the ground and broke into two groups. To add to the stealthiness and Pallas Athena system no aircraft had its radar on instead two Command/AWACS Arkbirds would provide radar coverage for most of the trip. Each group contained 30 Arkbirds, 30 F/A-128 Rain, 30 F-125 and 40 F-133's with the AWACs/Command planes getting their own escorts.

The groups were headed to the Panteran fleet but instead of heading right at them each group took a large roundabout route completly bypassing the vangaurd and placing each group to opposite sides of the Main fleet.(Itd be like one group to the north on to the South except I dont no what direction from Zarbia you are so I cant specify.) Each group positioned itself aproximatly 400 nm from the main Pantearan fleet and now they let the Pantearens have it. The large weapons bay doors of the Arkbirds opened up and along with the F/A-128's each group fired a wave of 1,000 missiles-500 MALAS-2's, 250 Fasthawk II mod Bravo's and 250 Fasthawk II mod Alpha.(Making for a total of 2,000 missiles-1,000 MALAS-2's, 500 mod Alpha's and 500 mod Bravos)

The Fasthawk II missiles seaskimmed at about 10m, and being over the horizon they would be detected by any ship radars till they got much closer. Their Scramjet engines kicked of shooting them to mach 8 and their very own Pallas Athena systems went online. While this and the fact that their own radar was turned on yet being guided by the Command/AWACs plane meant they'd be safe from being detected by radar they would still have an IR signal becouse of the range. To deal with this the missiles had sensors tod etect incoming IR missiles and when this happened they would immediatly slow down and spray a coolant over themselves making them invisible to IR guided missiles. The Alpha's and Bravo's were almost exactly alike except in their warheds and their "Backbones". The Alpha had a 1,000 lbs ONC warhead, ONC was a HE that is currently being discussed for the US army. Its major advantage is that its 1.5 times more powerfull than any other HE around meaning while it has a 1,000 lbs warhead it would deliver the effect of a 1,500 lbs one. The missiles also had a slight Havenite modification, right before impact 5 sub-munitions would shoot off and would land after the missiles basically meaning they would land inside the hole the missiles would puncture and detonate inside the ship.

The MALAS-2's were totally different from the Fasthawks II's. They to would seaskim with the fasthawks but when they got 100nm away they would turn on their jammers bying them 4-7 minutes from the radars of the Pantearen fleet. This would be more than enough and as the missiles reached 70nm their capsules broke and out fell their cargo, MT-2 torpedoes which dived into the water.(One torp per missiles=1,000 MT-2's) The MT-2 torpedoes went supercav and kicked it to 200 knts making them faster than any anti-torpedoes missiles Safehavens ever faced. Going at 200 knts they would slam into the sides of the Pantearan ships.

The plan was that the Panterans would be distracted by the mass of missiles coming at them and wouldn't notice the torpedoes in the water till it was to late. Then under attack from the air and under the waves on two sides it was hoped that in the confusion massive casualties would insur forcing the Pantearens to pull back. But, a plan never survived contact with the enemy and it would only be a matter of time before this one played out and the true effects were known.

The aircraft, their job done turned around and headed home with an extra gaurd up to fend of any retalitory attacks. Todau Safehaven was letting Zarbia know that they had her back.

OOC: Zarb-sorry it took so long but my damned comp signed me off and when I went to submit the post it woped it.
Belem
08-12-2004, 01:43
ooc: k.

IC: The fleet is maintaing a distance of approximately 350-400 miles apart to stay out of missile range of most Anti shipping missiles as two Large air squadrons take off one from the Fleet and one from the Zarbian Bases.

200 From the fleet- Half Vampire, Half Tiger Shark.

And 150 Tiger Sharks and 75 Vampires from the Zarbian Bases.

OOC: basically the Vampires and Tiger Sharks are based on the F-22 and F-35 respectively but they have enchanced computers,armors and weapons as well as a linked radar system they are also slightly faster. They are designed to have directional thrusting, a small radar crosssection(though its not as small as the real F-35 and F-22 as I expanded the fuelsalege to accomodate a few extra missiles.)

IC: The two wings drop to the deck heading towards the Zarbian fleet from opposite directions(one is coming south the other coming north.) They are maintaining radio silence and only using passive radar(with anti stealth detection systems) to check for incoming threats.

They are headed towards a position 150 miles away from the main force of Panteran ships which is the range for the air launched Javelin. (ooc: attack numbers will be posted based on your defense if any at 150 miles)

OOC: This missile strike is timed to arrive at the same time the missile launch from the fighters.

IC: The perimeter ships on the fleet begin launching Salvos long range Salvos against the enemy fleet, letting loose 600 Ship Based Javelins on High Attack mode(see below for description.) The ships then begin readying all CIWS Laser and Steel Wall defense systems. The missiles targets are dispersed amongst the main force of enemy combatants with 100 directed directly against the carriers.


OOC: Stats on Javelin

Ship Launched:
Lenght: 20 feet
Max Speed: Mach 3-4 Sea Skim mode Mach 4-6 High Attack mode, speed is only reached in descent.
Warhead: 100 pound Silicone Composite warhead which is the eqivulent of 400 pounds of regular explosive.
Max Range: 300 miles Sea Skim attack, 450-600(depending on weather conditions) High Attack.
High attack: note high attack mode is when the missile is launched it gains about 30-45 thousand feet in altitude and begins gliding towards the target conserving its fuel. When it gets closer to its target(10-20) the missile engages its engines and heads down towards the target at a 45 degree angle building up as much speed as possible.

The Air Launched Version is only 15 feet long, and only has a range of 150 for Seaskim and 250-300 for High Attack mode.


IC:(edit) With Satelite reports of an additional Panteran fleet en route two more Imperial fleets are being rerouted from there original patrol routes and towards a rendevous point 2000 miles away then will begin to head towards Zarbia. Since these fleets lack the large transport train they have a good chance of beating the enemy fleet to Zarbia.
Pantera
08-12-2004, 01:59
OOC: Before we go any further I'll ask that you both go back and jerk your airborne attacks on my fleet. Movement to engage would be a-ok, but with my AtmosFighters and other aircraft overhead and patrolling at combat readiness as was previously posted, there would be absolutely no chance to drop any sort of ordinance without being swarmed, even with your fancy pants stealth.
Tyrandis
08-12-2004, 01:59
OOC: Zarbia, that was Secret IC. Meaning that the so-called "discovery" is invalid.

I'll RP my fleet's rendevous later, busy w/ homework.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 02:02
OOC: Before we go any further I'll ask that you both go back and jerk your airborne attacks on my fleet. Movement to engage would be a-ok, but with my AtmosFighters and other aircraft overhead and patrolling at combat readiness as was previously posted, there would be absolutely no chance to drop any sort of ordinance without being swarmed, even with your fancy pants stealth.

OOC: I fired from 400nm, well out from any CAP you might have. CAP is over the fleet and a short area around it unless your running it different.

EDIT-Could you give me some info on those fighters of your? A link would be fine if you dont wanna write it out.
Zarbia
08-12-2004, 02:02
Zanta Harbour was the largest harbour in the whole of Zarbia, it had been built to withstand a siege. As soon as the Panteran barrage came, the anti-missiles weapons opened fire. A retaliation had been expected and this is exactly what Zarbian Central Command had wanted.

At the same time, the Zarbhun (air force) began its warpath. Two hundred MMA-A2 Kondors took off from the southern most airfield in Zeredel, making their way for the scene of battle.

Meanwhile, in Zanta Harbour, most of the Panteran missiles had been destroyed or had missed their targets. Surrounding bunkers and buildings had taken heavy damage and two Zarbian battleships had been sunk. The battleships began to move away from the harbour, they had underestimated the Panterans, it would not happen again.

The Kondors had the Panterans in sight, they would be in range for their attack in four..three..two..one! The Kondors fired each their ten Deadfish ASMs straight at the Panteran fleet and wheeled, heading back to the mainland.
Belem
08-12-2004, 02:06
Ooc: my planes didnt launch they are on approach heading to 150 miles. My Fleet launched the missiles.
Schultaria Prime
08-12-2004, 02:17
-Indian Ocean, 450 km eastwards of Dar es Salaam, Zarbian Tanzania

Making slow but steady progress, the Schultarian battle fleet had made it to their rendezvous point in less than 20 hours without any major incident. For most of the officers on board the taskforce, they had been impressed with the professionalism of their crews; although the action to move towards Zarbian Tanzania was by no means a large maneuver by modern standards, the stealth and methodical training of the crews made the journey far easier on their bosses. Without having to worry about the necessities of micromanagement, Codo could concentrate on a unified Schultarian/Vastivian front against the Zarbian colonial empire.

Everything about the fleet reflected the Admiral's sensibilities; the group of ships that were assigned for this mission had been given his personal and professional credence. All of the officers on board these vessels represented some of the finest and most personable Schultarian naval tacticians. Many had gone to study advanced naval operations in Sarzonia and Granzi, and none of them could be considered as green around the edges given their collective centuries of experience. Designed for speed and adaptability very few of the ships fielded in this effort were designed for only one purpose, save for his personal flagship. Then again, a sixty eight billion dollar Kerga Naskehdex was a sight to behold in its own right, especially when it's supremely large 825 mm cannons were brought to bear.

Meanwhile, the communications rooms of the Tah'kiea'leiah were buzzing about with a blinding flurry of activity. Long before any shots were to be fired by Schultaria Prime, the war over the hearts and minds of the Zarbian citizens was being directed though Schultarian masterminded media efforts. From the strategic dropping of leaflets over the regional colonial capitals of Tanzania to the establishment of Radio United Zarbia, the Schultarian Defense Forces were doing their best to reduce the need for unnecessary urban actions and a long occupation. Many officers and politicians at home hoped that these methods would be effective enough to make combat a minimal concern for the troops who would be charged with the first wave of military action, and that their message would appeal to a majority of the nation who wished for nothing less than to go on with their daily lives unencumbered.
Automagfreek
08-12-2004, 02:26
OOC: This missile strike is timed to arrive at the same time the missile launch from the fighters.

IC: The perimeter ships on the fleet begin launching Salvos long range Salvos against the enemy fleet, letting loose 600 Ship Based Javelins on High Attack mode(see below for description.) The ships then begin readying all CIWS Laser and Steel Wall defense systems. The missiles targets are dispersed amongst the main force of enemy combatants with 100 directed directly against the carriers.




OOC: You are aware that you cannot launch these all at once? That is what you are making it seem like, and at most you would be able to send several small to (possibly) medium sized vollies of missiles. Not to mention the way Pantera has his fleets spread out, your '100 missiles against his carriers' would be passing numerous ships and would most likely be shot down. but like I said before, this would be a gradual launch, not all at once.
Belem
08-12-2004, 02:33
OOC: They could be launched in 3 minutes by about 2 dozen ships. With each ship launching a missile every 3 seconds which is quite possible.
Eredron
08-12-2004, 02:35
...these aircraft were generations ahead of the modern day F-35 and F-22 and each of them were stealthier than those aircraft, stealthier even than a B-2.

...Pallas Athena cycles 600-times per second, responding to inbound radar signals with the appropriate return for the atmospheric conditions in which the aircraft is currently operating. Basically, it blends the aircraft/missile in with the surrounding sky.

Stats? Explain how these aircraft are capable of greater stealth than the B-2? And the Pallas Athena seems questionable to me - what tech period do you RP at?

...the missiles had sensors tod etect incoming IR missiles and when this happened they would immediatly slow down and spray a coolant over themselves making them invisible to IR guided missiles.

Explain how this coolant is applied to the fuel being burned to keep the missile in the air, since that is a source of heat that would have to be masked. I don't see how this could work, but I could be proven wrong. Spraying a coolant on the exterior of the missile would not, IMO, mask the heat signature of the missile itself.
Tyrandis
08-12-2004, 02:35
OOC: The Army Corps is currently back at Tyrandis, being prepped for deployment. The naval fleet is already en route.

IC:

80 km from Panteran fleet
0830 hrs

Fleet Admiral Nami Tamaki was displeased.

Due to scheduling havoc, the massive Tyrandisan assault fleet that was supposed to have departed to aid the Panterans in their offensive against the "inbred shitheads", as Hartman of AMF said so eloquently, of Zarbia, was delayed by a good hour.

Under her command was a sum force of almost eight hundred ships, all armed to the teeth.

The new Stormreaver-class Ekranoplans were also in the Admiral's arsenal, a sum of fifty. Each of these were armed with two hulking Railguns, capable of penetrating every and any known forms of naval armor. These vessels were capable of penetrating over thirty inch RHA, more than enough to annihilate the Zarbian fleets.

In addition to the Stormreavers, Aquadragon-D variant Anti-Shipping Ekranoplans were also present in great numbers throughout the assault vessel. These were armed with Tsunami-type AS missiles, each carrying thirty of the weapons.

Tsunami was a new design, used to counter the problems that plagued the old Yakhonts that the Tyrandisan Aquadragons used. While it was a bit slower than the others, going at a rate of only Mach 2.5, it had the advantage of being virtually impervious to CIWS rounds, thanks to its extensive carbon nanotube and synthetic coating. It yielded a full 450 kilogram Octo-Nitro-Cubane warhead, more than enough to cripple a Nimitz CVN.

On board her flagship, the TSN Valkyrie, Admiral Tamaki knew that these new advances in aeronautical science were more than enough to overpower the Zarbian military.

Suddenly, reports from the E-2E Advanced Hawkeye AWACS groups had brought troubling news; the Panteran fleet was under attack by Belem and Havenite ships.

"Shit." cursed the Admiral as she realized her dallying had caused unnecessary Panteran casualties.

The thirty Yorktown-class CVNs in the assault force had launched their TSF-28B Seraph navalized fighters into the fray earlier on, each bearing two Harpoon-II ASMs and their usual complement of XMRAAMs and XSRAAMs.

As the fleet sailed on, they were defended against all fronts by an extensive AWACS and ASW perimeter, ready to put their piece in the war effort...

OOC: Basically saying that I've arrived. Feel free to attack, but know that subs and aircraft will have to get past the fighter, Ekranoplan, and destroyer patrols.
IDF
08-12-2004, 02:57
Southern tip of the Sinai Penninsula
It wasn't the way any of the assembled men thought they'd spend the first night of Hannukah. Instead of being with their families they were taking off from the runway. IDF wouldn't be taking a major part in the war against Zarbia, but this would be a distraction move to help allies.

The mission was to bomb installations on the Eastern end of the African territories. It was away from the seaside where the battle was being fought and would hopefully draw resources away.

The aircraft being sent were 12 B-2As, 24 F/A-22A Raptors, 24 F-35As and 24 F-14I and 8 KC-767s along with 2 E-767s. It wasn't a massive air operation, but it certaintly wasn't a small one.

The F-35s would take the lead armed with HARMs and AAMs to help pave the way for the bombers. 15 miles behind them would be the B-2As led by Col. Dan Sheldon, which would drop JDAMs on border defenses and strategic areas. 50 miles behind them would be the F/A-22A Raptors with AAMs to take out any fighters that would come up to pursue the F-35s and the B-2s. Their job would be to help provide cover fire. This group would have an E-767 115 miles behind them.

195 miles behind them would be the F-14Is. They would have an E-767 with them also. The E-767 was perfect for the job as it had a fire control radar that allowed the F-14Is to avoid using their own radars.

It took 30 minutes to get all of the aircraft in the air. 90 minutes later they refueled. They would do so again on the way home. More fighters were on alert at the base to prepare in case the elements were followed home.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 03:06
OOC: Eredron, check tags I sent you a link to were all the info on that and my other aerial tech I use is at.
IDF-What colonies are you ttacking? Is that Egypt or Tanzania were Vastiva is gonna hit?

EDIT-O and my tech period is about 2020 give or take a few yeas for somethings. And before this spirals out of control can we all agree to no Nukes?
Benderberg
08-12-2004, 03:07
General Romsel had to help an RWC ally under attack. He ordered the 12 Oscar II SSGNs each armed with 24 SS-N-19 missiles to kill ships.

The Russian built missiles were very fast, long ranged SSMs with heavy warheads. The fleet had to get in position first. The sub formation was separated with 15-20 miles between subs. Their goal was to get to 450 miles of the enemy fleet perimeters on the western side so they could strike. Their job was to inflict maximum battle damage and hurt the possibilities of an invasion on an RWC ally.

Ground troops couldn't be spared as most of the troops had been deployed to Macabees. Romsel was still awaiting word from other RWC members on what to do about that and if they should be redeployed.
IDF
08-12-2004, 03:08
OOC: Eredron, check tags I sent you a link to were all the info on that and my other aerial tech I use is at.
IDF-What colonies are you ttacking? Is that Egypt or Tanzania were Vastiva is gonna hit?
OOC: I don't recognise his Egypt claim as Parthia has it so it is Tanzania. I'm willing to talk over recognizes his Egypt claim for this RP if Zarbia wants me to and Parthia is OK with it, but I'm not planning an invasion on him so I don't see that mattering much anyways.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 03:10
OOC: I have aircraft and some divisions stationed their so Ill put up a post on that later.

EDIT-Thats why I was wondering cause I needed to know if my men were their or not.
Tyrandis
08-12-2004, 03:14
OOC: Eredron, check tags I sent you a link to were all the info on that and my other aerial tech I use is at.
IDF-What colonies are you ttacking? Is that Egypt or Tanzania were Vastiva is gonna hit?

EDIT-O and my tech period is about 2020-25 give or take a few yeas for somethings. And before this spirals out of control can we all agree to no Nukes?

OOC: Ummm... I only recognize tech up to 2015. If there's something that I think a bit unreasonable, I'll mention it.

Also, nukes are banned, but I think chemical/bio weapons should be permitted. I have some new contagions that I want to test out... :)
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 03:17
OOC: Tyrandis, its basically RSA's tech from the W@W. And chem/bio im fine with but dont go overboard so it just turns into a WMD launch fest instead of a war.
Tyrandis
08-12-2004, 03:23
OOC: Tyrandis, its basically RSA's tech from the W@W.

OOC: I know, but I'm just saying, there's certain aspects of tech that New Empire/Artista uses that's a bit overboard for current technology. PA is one thing that comes to mind, since I'm not sure how a modern aircraft equipped with it can still fly because of the incredible power that the system needs for effective operation.

There's a few other things that I remember seeing earlier, but nothing jumps out at me yet.
Wirraway
08-12-2004, 03:34
The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway's Coordinator made a startling statement in a speech earlier today....

"......as war continues to spread around the world we are finding it more and more evident that we cannot remain un-involved. The scale of the unjustness being perpetrated against many of our fellow RWC members is almost too much to stand. It is for this reason that we have begun to implement a partial mobilization of the armed forces for possible deployment if the situation deteriorates further. I wish to make it clear that Wirraway is not going to war, however, with the events going on around us it would be foolhardy to not be prepared, that is all."

OOC: I'm just using this thread as a place to update my nation's stance, but if I were to decide get involved, it would be here.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 03:43
OOC:Tyrandis-Im still about 20 years behind AMF(I believe he said he was 2040 though I may be mixing him up with someone else on your side)

IC:
The shrill sirens that had gone off in Zarbia were now going off in Zarbian Africa. A Sqaudron of F-133's and another of Artitsan SU-52's went up in the air. The cause for this was a flight of incoming planes detected incoming. The SU-52's were sent to intercept the incoming bombers while the F-133's brpassed them putting a barrier of about 140 mls between them and the incoming flight. They headed to the Raptors taking a roundabout route so theyd hit the raptors in the side. Hitting afterburner for a short while they would soon close the distance but they kept close watch in case the IDF fighters vectored to them.
The SU-52's weren't fast enough to make it before the planes dropped their bombs.(Youd have to let Zarbia rp air defense and such their so this of course would be after any SAM's or such he fires.) WHile they were to slow to make it to the IDF planes before they launched they were able to close the range before they got away. At 130 miles they let loose a volley of Divinebolt NGLRAAM's. A total of 72 NGLRAAM's with their 200 miles range let fly at the F-35's and B-2's, for a spread of two per aircraft. The NGLRAAM's kicked off to mach 5, and had something to take care of the disadvantage most long range missiles had. Long range missiles usually sacraficed accuracy for range but the Divinebolt NGLRAAM was equipped with thrust vectoring so it could make nearly 40G turns. They also had passive and active radar, Lidar, a Home-On-Jam mode and a Home-On-Scan mode making them hard to full. If nessecary extra guidance could be prvided from an AWACs/command bird or the plane that fired it.

EDIT:Forgot to post, a Squadron has 12 planes.
Eredron
08-12-2004, 03:47
OOC: Is Zarbia's claim on Angola recognized in this RP? I read somewhere his claim was possibly in Earth II?
IDF
08-12-2004, 03:49
OOC: I want to know how F-22s, B-2s, and F-35s can be detected at a range of over 100 miles. They are near impossible to track at a range that is a fraction of that.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 03:52
OOC: Their not being detected at that range, their near the border when my planes first took off so they werent being sdetected at massive ranges becouse their are radar stations near the border that are much closer.
Tyrandis
08-12-2004, 03:53
OOC: Is Zarbia's claim on Angola recognized in this RP? I read somewhere his claim was possibly in Earth II?

OOC: I dunno, his Angola claim is based on the "RL Earth Claims" thread that is being serviced by IH right now.

Since the whole multi-earth thing makes my head hurt, I'm just going to bypass those colonies and go straight for the jugular.
IDF
08-12-2004, 03:55
OOC: Their not being detected at that range, their near the border when my planes first took off so they werent being sdetected at massive ranges becouse their are radar stations near the border that are much closer.
OOC: I'm dropping my bombs at the border and not inland. The mission is to target the SAMs, RADARs, and AAAs at the border, thus the reason the F-35s on the lead are armed with HARMs. Their job is to pave the way for the B-2s which will hit harder border targets. I'm pointing out that the HARMs will be fired 35 miles from the border. We can't do a thing here until Zarbia gets on.

OOC EDIT: SInce I haven't seen Parthia on in a while and I don't think he is in this RP, I'll accept Zarbia's Egypt claim.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 04:00
OOC: Arite, but my post didnt affect any defense he would've posted. But your F-22, B-2 and F-35's could be detected by Lidar which my planes and SAM's are equipped with. Ill send you the same link I sent Eredron so you can see my aerial tech.
Check tgs.
IDF
08-12-2004, 04:04
OOC: Arite, but my post didnt affect any defense he would've posted. But your F-22, B-2 and F-35's could be detected by Lidar which my planes and SAM's are equipped with. Ill send you the same link I sent Eredron so you can see my aerial tech.
Check tgs.
OOC: Even if you have LIDAR, it isn't your SAMs out there, they are Zarbias. Besides, I'm firing at a very long range that shouldn't put me in too much danger here.
Safehaven2
08-12-2004, 04:07
OOC: 35miles isnt long range for for what im talking about but just check your tg's and look at the link. Itll explain all this radar/Lidar/detection thing and I dont wanna clog this thread. And I do have SAM's and my own radar to protect my divisions and the airbases my men are stationed at. I would have detected you from were your firing but anyways just check the link.
Samtonia
08-12-2004, 04:09
Dalton chuckled as reports of the massive air battle came in. He turned to one of his subordinate commanders, a Captain whose name he could never pronounce properly. And if there was anything Samtonians from Formos hated, it was improper pronunciation of names.

”Ahhh, you, Captain….ah….”

“Chunjkhasee sir?”

“Yes, you. Can you get the current plots displayed right now?”

The older man nodded. “Aye sir. Patching through to main screen.”[/i]

On the massive command screen stretching above the crew pits and the commander control balcony within the massive superstructure of the Doujin SMk.2, a series of lines quickly flickered on. Groupings of dots showed the position of all enemy fleets, with the Samtonian recon sats doing their job perfectly. Lines moved back and forth as missiles launches and dogfights were recorded.

Dalton eyed the display and thought a bit. He nodded towards a display of red on the board above. “That group, the red about 300 km. away from us- what’s it doing?”

“Here are the most recent intel stats on it sir.”

Dalton nodded. “So they’re just sitting there then. Well, 300 km. is well out of their range, but the Four Horsemen should be able to handle it.” He nodded. “Full battle perimeter. Long range firing solution. Cross check with laser assisted guidance satellites and bracket targets. Aim for the center of the flotilla. Full barrage, ceased when I give the word. Pick a target and stay with it until it sinks.”

As the bevy of uniformed men hurried about, he grinned excitedly. Pulling out earmuffs, Dalton smiled. This was going to be the most fun he had had in a while.

+++++++++++++
As the order went out, the massive Samtonian flotilla ground to a halt. Planes began launching, establishing definite air superiority over the empty stretch of ocean nearly 300 km. from the nearest enemy fleet and about 150 km. from the Panteran fleet. While the flotilla spread out in standard protective procedures, with ships re-formatting positions to provide maximum air protection and subs beginning to set up shop near the ocean bottom in protective rings, the four largest ships began to turn to port.

Four Doujin SMk.2, the Samtonian improved, Doujin built Super dreadnoughts. Few were commissioned and you usually only felt the power of one or two. This was to indeed be a naval first. A long range shelling by four of the most feared ships upon the sea.

SNS War, SNS Pestilence, SNS Famine, and SNS Death. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. They were to sweep their enemies before them, like chaff from a mill. And it was about time to test them.

Seemingly without warning, the massive main guns began to fire, at the same time, all at the same target. The Belem fleet. Laser assisted from satellites high in orbit, a general area was painted, with the shells homed in on varying patches of the fleet. And as the massive guns lashed out, a round every three minutes, the very ocean shook.

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FREAK TECTONIC MOTIONS SEND RESEARCHERS SCRAMBLING FOR DATA!

The Samtonian Times reports today that tectonic shifts were detected across the world today by researchers from Samtonia National University. With no scientific explanation and no government response forthcoming, experts are stumped. (Cont. Pg. 4)

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Message broadcast to the World
We told you to watch Zarbia. Now see the terror unleashed. We shall smite our foes with the fury of the Four Horsemen. Their bombardment shall open our route into destiny, with Pantera and our other faithful allies by our side.

Watch your shores, nations. For the Four Horsemen ride tonight. And they may ride for you next. Sleep well in the fire. We shall have our vengeance.

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Field Marshal James Dalton, Defense Minister
Belem
08-12-2004, 04:15
ooc: Sam. Question how many ships are in your fleet and my fleet is keeping atleast 300 to 350 miles away from all hostile fleets so how are your shells even going to reach?
Eredron
08-12-2004, 04:16
The 71-ship Eredronian fleet on patrol in the southwestern Indian Ocean was ordered to withdraw to within four hundred miles of the Mauritius Principality, remaining uninvolved with the conflict unfolding, with orders only to engage when fired upon or threatened; their purpose was to monitor and gather data and provide search and rescue if requested.

Air patrols of F-22E Firehawks were ordered to begin, both around the fleet and Mauritius, as well as in Namibia and the fleet stationed off the Namibian coast.
IDF
08-12-2004, 04:19
The Lead element of 24 F-35A came in low at an altitude of only 200 feet above the ground. They had their terrain avoidance systems on to help keep them at that level above ground while dodging mountains. The idea was to stay out of the sight of the enemy SAMs and their RADAR systems, which were line of sight.

The JSF's pulled up at 40 nm and instantly enemy RADARs began tracking them and LIDARs had them. MIssiles were fired at them, but the fighterss had only 5 nm to their IP.

Lt. Col. Ryan Flemming was leading the element. He pickled off 2 HARMs at a range of 35 nm. Each one was heading for a RADAR or SAM station. The rest of the flight followed. Their missile warning receivers were chirping loud now. The fighters dove down for the rocks and jinked lossing CMs along the way. It wasn't enough and 7 of the birds fell prey to the missiles. Due to the low altitude only 1 man ejected safely.

It was likely fighters were now up so the 1st E-767 flipped on it's 2.5 million watt Radar and began looking for targets. The F-22s were now leading the B-2As in. The F-35s were falling back to a station where they could help intercept fighters.

The B-2As were carrying 8 CALCM air launched cruise missiles. At a range of 75 nm to the border these were loosed at GPS coordinates of key strategic troop formations, bases, or strong radars. The missiles would skim the surface as they flew in towards Zarbia. The F-22s were holding about 55 miles outside Zarbia's border waiting for fighters to come in so they could have a dogfight. The B-2s turned around hoping the F-22s would hold.
Samtonia
08-12-2004, 04:31
ooc: Sam. Question how many ships are in your fleet and my fleet is keeping atleast 300 to 350 miles away from all hostile fleets so how are your shells even going to reach?

[OOC- Not big on numbers, but let's give a gracious estimate of 600 military vessels and attendant support vessels.

And how can my guns reach that far? Simple. It's a Doujin. I will get the stats up sometime very soon, but here's the important thing right now.

20 x 30" Electro-Thermal Naval Guns

These suckers are huge. And launch scramjet assisted shells. Ask Freethinkers about these, if questions. Or Scandinavian States. But if you were around during the great Dreadnought race, this was the ship that started it all. So yes, these do have a range of 300 km. In fact, maximum range is something like 700 km. They're big, slow, expensive, powerful, and did I mention big? But they're feasible and I'll get those stats up ASAP]
Belem
08-12-2004, 04:41
OOC: Before anyone makes there next post can they figure out exactly how many ships they have broken down into category classes it will make combat go a lot smoother if we know what we are targetting and what we are up against.
Vastiva
08-12-2004, 06:14
OOC: Am splitting off the colonial invasions to here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7654269#post7654269) to prevent confusion.

Zarbia - please indicate where nation is, in relation to colonies?

Danke, Vastiva will be over in the colonial action for now.
Pantera
08-12-2004, 06:28
High above the embattled Panteran fleet the Hound's AtmosFighters swarmed, darting down to harry the incoming and fleeing aircraft(ooc: Whih I had no chance to defend against anyway). Breaking their formation, they seperated into a number of assault squadrons. One stout squadron remained above with each of the AWACs birds that soaed above. Their sweeps brought up ghostly images of the stealth-ified inbound missiles, bouncing it back to the warships and their precision targetting.

More fighters dropped from the upper atmosphere and swept down to intercept the inbound Belem aircraft. Their companion fighters lifting off from the dozen Panteran carriers below swept to meet them as well, and the Belem force was attacked from two angles. Above, the AtmosFighters sliced down into their midst, guns blazing, and ahead, a rising wave of Reavers moving to intercept.

The range of the incoming missiles was slimming when the rolling fire of the Panteran's batteries of SM-2's opened up. The first of a score of constant salvos, they burned up and away, intercepting the enemy barrage at roughly thirty miles. Almost six hundred of them soared away and blunted the great swarm of incoming missiles. Undaunted, they streamed closer and closer, until they met the second wave of missiles. These were the RAF-Pods, Rolling-Air Frame missiles, their fiery resistance beginning at the ten-mile mark. Still many of the enemy missiles came on, after all, there were simply so many.

Again and again the air surrounding the Panteran fleet was saturated with thousands upon thousands of flak bursts. The very air turned grey with it and fiery orange with the explosions of the incoming enemy fire. The first expolsion sounded off the bow of the destroyer Song, and another soon after. The screaming of the inbound missiles that penetrated the wall of flak was almost muted by the ripping chatter of the Reaver perimeter ship's CWIS systems, the Seawall. This final wall of resistance was stout, and served well as missile after missile of the ragged remnant of the enemy salvo was chewed by the automated fire of the Seawall.

Still, the sheer momentum of the shrapnel sliced into the decks of many Reaver ships, uncluding that of Caval the Warhound. He stood, watching as one of his ships rocked violently from a near-miss, and narrowed his eyes as the bridge of another belched a plume of fire.

"M'lord, we've got the Samtonians incoming. Tyrandis' fleet as well. They're pounding these dogs." The Hound smiled. These fools were about to be crushed.

"Return fire on the Belem fleet. Full barrage. I want our vanguard to fire inland... Are they still battering that port? Good. These fools need to be punushed." As the Reaver salvo screamed up and into the air, away from the main fleet, another screamed toward the Zarbian mainland.
McLeod03
08-12-2004, 06:49
<RAF McLeodia>

A klaxon rang out, breaking the silence of the quiet, misty, dull morning. Across the RAFs largest airfield, technicians and ground crews began sprinting across aprons into the huge hangars, each big enough to hold four of the old B-52s. Start-carts pilot transport vehicles followed them, barely making it inside the hangars before the doors closed again. Without warning, the klaxon stopped, and peace once again returned to the area.

A low rumbling noise replaced the harshness of the klaxon, and yet nothing seemed to be changing. In reality, the floors of the huge hangars began their descent to the storage area beneath the base, opening up into a vast complex of hangars, workshops, munitions stores, and huge fuel supply depots, all buried deep underground. No sooner had the elevators reached the floor of the cavern than crews began to head towards their assigned aircraft. As ground crews completed final checks, and the pilots began their walkarounds, towing vehicles were brought into position, and began moving various aircraft onto the elevators. When they began to rise again, the elevators were packed with aircraft. Twelve AL-52 Dragons, the near legendary airborne-laser craft, loomed over the tugs attached to their nose-wheels. Two full squadrons of F-114E Wolfcat-Plus fighters filled another six elevators, each bristling with deadly air-to-air weapons from the MAULRAAM down to their 30-mm cannon. The remainder of the elevators were filled with EB-1C Vampires, 96 of the sleek stealthy high-speed bombers sat ready for war, pilots running through pre-flight checklists and saying their prayers to God and the King.


<RAF Harperston>

The base of the RAFs main contingent of StealthHawks, Harperston was far smaller than McLeodia, but held almost as much firepower. In her semi-submerged hangars, she contained sixteen-hundred of the primary McLeodian Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles. Half the size of a standard fighter, the StealthHawks carried four air-to-air missiles and a single 20-mm nose mounted cannon. Designed to act autonomously in their mission, the worked in groups of two up to fourty craft, and were easily capable of out manouevring any aircraft in the McLeodian arsenal, since the lack of pilot meant they were constricted only by the g-limits of the airframe.

Massive satellite antennae provided data to the StealthHawks, which could be assigned a mission from Harperston via a NIRTSSAT link, or pre-programmed with a mission, and left to get on with it. Control of individual aircraft could even by taken in flight by members of AL-52 and EB-1C crews trained, provided the UCAVs were within range.

Tens of hundreds of the small craft began to take off and head towards the rendeavous, their engines and mission-adaptive wings allowing them to take off in barely a quarter of the length of the runway before they began their long flight towards the target area.


<Over McLeod03>

It would take nearly three-quarters of an hour, but the huge strike wing was eventually airborne, and heading east towards Zarbia to help out the McLeodian allies in their missions. The flight would take nearly four hours, even at the speeds they were flying.


<300 miles north-west of Panteran fleet>

A single Vengeance class SSGN of the 7th Submarine Patrol Group sat below the gently rolling waves. Her dark hull blended in with the waters around her, making her almost invisible to the naked eye until you got close. This far from the battle, they were safe. After a brief search of the area around and above the craft for possible hazards, hatches began to pop open on the submarines decks. Within seconds, four huge missiles began their ascent into orbit, carrying a full constellation of NIRTSSAT satellites.

Their mission complete, the submarine headed back to its escorting Astutes, and the group headed south-east towards their next prescribed launch positions closer to the battle.


EDIT - Forgot the UCAVs.
Automagfreek
08-12-2004, 06:54
I pray I am not too late.... Pondered Azrael as he sat at the helm of the Death Rattle. His father, Lord Dreadfire had sent him personally to assist the old Warhound in his quest, although Damien knew he did not really need it. With the fighting already started and his ranks swelled to the point of near absurdity, the 400 ship fleet of Azrael's was loaded and ready to go. While not being as large as Lord Dreadfire's fleet, the massive floating convoy of steel lumbered onward. Azrael knew the opponents he was facing, and with Damien's very large purchase of naval craft that nearly doubled his total vessels, Azrael was free to pick and choose his outfit.

While his Sentinels were not as numerous, his ships were vast, especially destroyers and missile frigates. He had no shortage of subs or carriers by any stretch of the imagination, but Azrael's goal was distance. Packing enough firepower to level a small island several times over and enough supplies to stay at sea for months, the young and valiant Warchief was confident that his fleets would be the final straw on the camel's back. AMF's navy was far underestimated by most, and it would be that foolish sense of security that would be the downfall of his foes.

As the fleets slowly neared the combat zone, he ordered his subs forward in a tight perimeter to scan the ocean floor carefully and to be on the lookout, using LIDAR and SONAR constantly as their eyes. Airspace was of a similar scenario, with dozens of planes on patrol in the skies and many hundreds more standing by. Freek satellites keep a watchfull eye from the heavens, guiding the fleet to where it needed to be.

While still about a few hundred miles out from the action, Azrael decided that now was the time to get into attack formation. Slowly but surely he began spreading his ships out, strategically placing his guided missile frigates and destroyers exactly where they needed to be, not only on the outer perimeter but also near the 'center' of his convoy. If any massive launched were to take place, the likelyhood of them doing great damage was slim.

Azrael then got on the horn to his new comrade in arms, Caval, and informed him of his arrival towards the rear of the Panteran navy.

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Caval, my old friend! Lord Dreadfire sends his compliments....and he sends me. My Sentinels are ready and my ships are here to take some of the tension off. Come Caval, the tide begins to shift. Let us send these heathens back into the foul abyss from whence they came! I'll be with you shortly.

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Azrael the Advocate
-Warchief of AMF Forces-
Vastiva
08-12-2004, 07:10
(OOC: Suggestion - someone make an OOC thread for this?)
The Merchant Guilds
08-12-2004, 10:36
OOC: LOL! You create a virus to target the Sentinels? You do realize that Sentinels are just regular human beings, right? The ONLY modifications done are removing genetically inherited flaws, such as genetically inherited diseases. Reason for this being is that AMF does not want to have to treat every Sentinel for Alzheimer's when they reach a certian age, so the DNA is sifted through and the defect removed, get it? That and they are all genetically 'programmed' to look alike and be of the same height.

Simple and easy to understand, and I have stated for the past YEAR that they are NOT super soldiers. Creating a virus that targets ONLY Sentinels is as godmoddish as making a virus that targets black people, old people, Jews, etc.

LOL!

OOC:

Ok, AMF:

A) You have altered them and removed ALL harmful traits and changed their genes to make them look the same have you? If so that makes them very genetically distinctive, if you have done this, it by default means a Bio-genetic plague (made to mutate to a specific genetic general sequence or just targeted at the lack of certain genes) can be targeted easily to specifically hurt them. Since this sort of thing can be done now if human beings weren't so very genetically similar and weren't made very different in some ways, meaning it's very hard to use such ideas. It however is going a few years in the targeting, however:

B) How on earth is it a godmod? If you can genetically mutate others to create soldiers that A) look the same B) have all (known to you) harmful traits removed what is the creation of a bio-genetic plague to attack that specific genetic pattern.

C) Correct me if I am wrong, aren't they clones? Well, I was told by a friend they were anyway, if not I will stand corrected.

Thus, it is quite legal, just it doesn't suit you for it to be.
McLeod03
08-12-2004, 10:39
OOC: Its also a complete waste of research. Ooh, you'll be able to take out unprotected sentinels right up until someone develops a vaccine. What about everyone elses troops that'll be tearing your country apart the second you use biological weaponry on an ally? Or do you conviniently have a virus to take out anyones troops except your own?
The Merchant Guilds
08-12-2004, 11:03
OOC: Its also a complete waste of research. Ooh, you'll be able to take out unprotected sentinels right up until someone develops a vaccine. What about everyone elses troops that'll be tearing your country apart the second you use biological weaponry on an ally? Or do you conviniently have a virus to take out anyones troops except your own?

OOC: To the last part, no that is a Godmod... besides it's about specific genetic patterns if you understand. AMF's Sentinals are so genetically modified so they can targeted by agents against the presence or lack of certain genes. Besides I can't hit humanity without killing myself, as stated in the aforementioned post, the only reason this is possible is because AMF has so genetically modified his sentinals :)

Unprotected sentinals? They are all unprotected, in the case of spreading the viral agent (it's airbourne aka the most effective way of spreading anything). If AMF notices the best he can do is quarentine his entire sentinal force, whereby he then comes up with an antidote, which may I add since I spent a long time developing it, it would naturally follow it would take a long time to produce a true antidote, there maybe drugs to slow the virus, but unless he has a freak discovery he will have his sentinals out of convieable action for some length of time.

As for knowing I had done it, how would he know that ICly? He's fighting any number of nations, they are far more likely to have done it than an 'neutral' nation. Don't tell me? They just 'know' right?
Vastiva
08-12-2004, 11:22
OOC: If you target any gene set, you will kill off a large part of humanity, as any gene set is rather common, given humanities numbers (which are far and gone beyond real earth on Nation States). You will also have a real problem targeting only certain gene groups effectively. Then we go into "genetic drift" and "mutation of organism". In short, this isn't going to be very effective, its hideously expensive, and you could achieve better results from dumping chemical weapons then what you're trying.

As to a vaccine - very short order, given the precision of target. And who will need it? Given the precision of which this bug is supposed to work, a defense is not that difficult. You've made it too precise - which means the virus itself can be removed and neutralized rather easily.

Hey, you want to use it, fine. Might take all of a week to neutralize. Tops.
The Merchant Guilds
08-12-2004, 11:44
OOC: If you target any gene set, you will kill off a large part of humanity, as any gene set is rather common, given humanities numbers (which are far and gone beyond real earth on Nation States). You will also have a real problem targeting only certain gene groups effectively. Then we go into "genetic drift" and "mutation of organism". In short, this isn't going to be very effective, its hideously expensive, and you could achieve better results from dumping chemical weapons then what you're trying.

As to a vaccine - very short order, given the precision of target. And who will need it? Given the precision of which this bug is supposed to work, a defense is not that difficult. You've made it too precise - which means the virus itself can be removed and neutralized rather easily.

Hey, you want to use it, fine. Might take all of a week to neutralize. Tops.

OOC:

Ah, Vas you know something... thats something i'll credit you with :) (thats a compliment not an insult btw)

Right, as for this:

AMF has stated he has changed his Sentinals genetic make up to lack shall we say certain elements of what would normally occur in most natural human populations, since 99.9% (reoccuring) of naturals will have trace/dormant/active genes in what he has removed. This will mean that the virus will not actually affect said humans, because they have that dormant gene or gene(s). Since AMF's sentinals lack the presence of these genes, they will be hit along with the absolutely tiny minority who lack these genes as well. In short what AMF has done by using such widespread genetic alteration has left his troops open to such attacks by making them very distinct.

As for how long it takes to deal with a specific geneome virus, it takes years currently to produce a viable antidote even to really specific viral infections. They still haven't come up with true treatments for a lot of genetic infections etc... if you see my point. It's specific, but I do know ways AMF can get round this... it's not created to be an uber weapon only as a weapon to use against people who use genetically altered troops in MT (or was). I didn't have much intention to use it until AMF decided to go to war with number of my friends...

Not so easy to neutralise...

As for genetic drift, I had thought of this. This is what gives the virus it's inherent weakness and strength at the same time, it is mutogenically stable in so far as it engineered to attack X, Y and Z pattern and only attack said pattern, but it also means it would be easier to isolate and cure than a normal artifical weapon. However, this will shave a few years off your research but in my estimation that would be already too late... Thus it can be re-configured to a new biology as well etc...

I don't really want to argue this, but if AMF genetically modifies his troops, he has to accept the principle of a genetically altered virus targeted at geneology of his Sentinals. He can create an antidote if he wants, I never said he couldn't what I am saying is that it will take much longer than a week.
McLeod03
08-12-2004, 12:37
<220 miles from Zarbian coastline>

"All flights, this is Wolf One-One. Take positions, lock and load, and get ready to kick some ass. Hawk Flights, take the lead. Wolves, form up behind them, and Dragons take spacing amongst Wolf Flights. Vampires, hold at Gamma, wait for us to clear the route for you"

With six hundred StealthHawk UCAVs taking the lead, the McLeodians accelerated to just shy of the Mach, and began to take guidance information from the orbiting NIRTSSATs, de-activating their own LIDAR systems and going 'nose cold'. Whilst the advanced SafeHaven fighters were difficult to distinguish, their inland bases were less so, as were the Belemese ships. At this range, even LIDAR systems would find it impossible to detect most aircraft with the exception of the AL-52, but any hostile aircraft that activated such a system to track them would suddenly find themselves the target of a 200-mile range airborne laser system easily capable of blinding pilots, and at closer ranges of slicing canopies open, and even cutting off wings.

The main force of the entire strike wing, the EB-1Cs, began taking final targetting information for their Wolverine cruise missiles and Python anti-radiation missiles. As soon as they reached 175 miles from their targets, they would begin to launch their payloads before turning back and heading for home under the cover of the UCAVs and Wolfcats.
Schultaria Prime
08-12-2004, 14:42
OOC:
AMF has stated he has changed his Sentinals genetic make up to lack shall we say certain elements of what would normally occur in most natural human populations, since 99.9% (reoccuring) of naturals will have trace/dormant/active genes in what he has removed. This will mean that the virus will not actually affect said humans, because they have that dormant gene or gene(s). Since AMF's sentinals lack the presence of these genes, they will be hit along with the absolutely tiny minority who lack these genes as well. In short what AMF has done by using such widespread genetic alteration has left his troops open to such attacks by making them very distinct.

OOC: I personally fail to see the distinction... Viruses target proteins responsible solely for their own replication paying special attention to the external chemical composition of the cells. The only way a varion can specifically target cells of a living creature without first knowing its DNA or RNA patterns is to know the chemical makeup of the transport and cellular wall proteins outside of the cell. Unfortunately, in the majority of human physiology (with various exceptions due to sickle cell anemia, cancer, etc.) everyone utilizes the same external chemistry for their cellular walls and transport proteins.

Also, along similar lines, every human also requires the same set of twenty two amino acid complexes to create every protein used by the human body. If there is even the slightest variation in genetic coding for these items, they simply do not work period. For all human species, it is essential to have the same coding system on the cellular level, otherwise there would be serious problems in respiration, digestion, and waste transport for a great deal of people. Unfortunately, a virus that works along the lines of attacking someone with an abscense of dormant genes doesn't make a great deal of sense.

Viruses, once they've inserted their genetic package into the cell for replication, look to specific genomic markers to begin replication of items necessary for the propagation of a new viral package. However, viruses look for the presence of genes, not the lack thereof. In order to insure the replication and propagation of a virulent organism, it doesn't spend time looking for the particulars of a genetic code; either it finds the necessary protein sequences it needs and replicates at a rate that puts rabbits to shame or it floats around and waits for the lysosomes to come use its genetic material for spare parts.

In other words, unless AMF has actually added to the genome of his Sentinals in combination to the removal of inherent genetic flaws, they are indistinguishable genetically from the trillions of other humans mulling about in the NS world.
The Merchant Guilds
08-12-2004, 14:52
OOC: I personally fail to see the distinction... Viruses target proteins responsible solely for their own replication paying special attention to the external chemical composition of the cells. The only way a varion can specifically target cells of a living creature without first knowing its DNA or RNA patterns is to know the chemical makeup of the transport and cellular wall proteins outside of the cell. Unfortunately, in the majority of human physiology (with various exceptions due to sickle cell anemia, cancer, etc.) everyone utilizes the same external chemistry for their cellular walls and transport proteins.

Also, along similar lines, every human also requires the same set of twenty two amino acid complexes to create every protein used by the human body. If there is even the slightest variation in genetic coding for these items, they simply do not work period. For all human species, it is essential to have the same coding system on the cellular level, otherwise there would be serious problems in respiration, digestion, and waste transport for a great deal of people. Unfortunately, a virus that works along the linse of attacking someone with an abscense of dormant genes doesn't make a great deal of sense.

Viruses, once they've inserted their genetic package into the cell for replication, look to specific genomic markers to begin replication of items necessary for the propagation of a new viral package. However, viruses look for the presence of genes, not the lack thereof. In order to insure the replication and propagation of a virulent organism, it doesn't spend time looking for the particulars of a genetic code; either it finds the necessary protein sequences it needs and replicates at a rate that puts rabbits to shame or it floats around and waits for the lysosomes to come use its genetic material for spare parts.

In other words, unless AMF has actually added to the genome of his Sentinals in combination to the removal of inherent genetic flaws, they are indistinguishable genetically from the trillions of other humans mulling about in the NS world.

OOC: I'll talk to a friend who studies medicine about this and I'll get back to you (he designed the damn thing for me as a favour).

But, I think the point is SP that AMF has by removing aspects of the genetic gene pool, which most humans have a trace (at least) of he makes his sentinals significantly genetically distinguishable from the other humans. How does it not make sense, may I ask? (since you obviously know quite a bit and this is for as much my own information as anything else) but to save this thread anymore OOC jargon do you mind TGing it to meh.

For the moment, just ignore the post on the Virus. Thanks.
Belem
08-12-2004, 15:27
OOC: Pantera how many fighters do you have attacking my two attack groups?
Pantera
08-12-2004, 19:39
OOC: Pantera how many fighters do you have attacking my two attack groups?

OOC: If you're going to follow behind and request exact figures every time I post you're going to be quite disappointed. I'm not here to crunch numbers, think up useless 2-page lists of this carrier, that kind of sub, or these planes. I don't RP like that. I'm here to tell a story, not write up detailed manifests of my fleets. I'll give vague numbers, and I'll work them accordingly, but if you want exact figures every time I post, you're SOL. For now, just assume I'm keeping 150-200 or so of my AtmosFighters in the air to pounce on any incursions, like your inbound, and another 2-300 fuled and ready to lift to assist in blunting these attacks, much like those who are also moving to intercept. So, as of now I'll have 200-250 in the air and on intercept, as well as those who are guarding my AWACs and other 'reserves'
Benderberg
08-12-2004, 23:32
The Oscar II SSGNs were now in position 400 miles away from the NATO fleets. The 18 subs each came up to 120 feet at their set time. The ships were at battlestations when at their preset time of 1900 they each launched 24 of the deadly Shipwreck missiles. The total of 432 missiles were high speed supersonic missiles that flew at low altitudes towards the bearings of enemy ships. Zarbia had done nothing to deserve such treatment and the torturers would pay for it.
Belem
09-12-2004, 00:01
The Vampires in both groups pull up as the first Panteran fighters come in for engagement to distract them from attacking the Tiger Sharks. The 175 Vampires each let loose two Racer Medium Range missiles at the enemy fighters before engaging in Dogfights.

The Tiger Sharks use the low altitude and there speed to their advantage in avoiding the Panteran cannon fire, as they increase speed heading.

Most of the Tiger Sharks make it past the enemy CAP line and the first, The lead fighters enter into range of approx. 140 miles and each let loose there six Javelin missiles towards the panteran Capitol ships. As the first wave fires they pull up to allow for the second wave to engage and launch, before the entire force pulls back and engages afterburners to the fleet. The missiles head towards the Panteran fleet at speeds approaching and slight surpassing Mach 4 as they skim 10-20 feet off the surface of the water.

OOC: A total of 2,040 missiles are launched at the Panteran fleet the missiles are targetted as evenly as possibly to all ships with perimeter ships getting priority.

The Fleet begins steaming to a new location to make themselves a harder target as the fighters for the second wave begin launching to finish off the straggelers.

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Meanwhile in Belem....

100 B-52s and additional 200 Fighters begin take off procedures at Imperial Airbases headed for bases in Zarbia. The B-52s are each loaded with 12 Javelins ship launch version.

4 Vanquish High Altitude Bombers(The Belem version of the Hypersoar) are launched from a High Security Belem airbase they increase there altitude and speed until they are skipping on the atmosphere at Mach 10. Each is carrying 6 Deep Penetration Low Yield Nuclear Bunker Buster bombs(ooc:yield is barely nuclear the range for the nuclear explosion is only 100-200 feet its based on whats being developed for the U.S. military now.) Each is capable of penetrating 30 feet of concrete before its warhead is detonated. They are headed towards the Samtonia fleet to put an end to the Doujins.
Safehaven2
09-12-2004, 01:40
The SU-52's watched in glee as their missiles hit their targets. By their count at least 7 were down but that left many more IDF aircraft in the area. The Su-52's had expended most of their NGLRAAM's but they still had 36 left. After that they would have to switch to their Artemis NGMRAAM's which had a much much shorter range but were much more accurate and could perform tighter manuevors. Using the NGMRAAM's would most likly put them in range of IDF reutrn fire but that was a chance theyd probaly have to take.

By now a EB-15 AWAC's/Command Arkbird was in the air and took command of the battle. Its massive SPY-5 radars went on line and starting sweeping the air looking for aircraft. The B-2A's were designated top priority for the SU-52's and the Arkbird now vectored them in. The SU-52's now fired the last of their NGLRAAM's to targets designated by the Arkbird. Each F-22 got 1 missiles, but that left an extra 12 missiles. Those missiles were lagging behind the rest and would be targgeted at whatever F-22's survived the fist wave.

The F-133's were parralel to the first IDF AWAC's plane when it turned on its radar system full. They'd have to shut it down immediatly before it started causing problems so taking a gentle turn they now faced the E-767. They had been placing a 140ml barrier between them and the IDF aircraft and that put them well within range to use thier own NGLRAAM's. Unlike the launch by the SU-52's this one wouldn't come as a surprise to the IDF forces but that couldn't be helped. 5 NGLRAAM's were fired at the E-767 to insure it went down. The F-133's now turned towards the F-22's, F-35's and B-2A's they were now about 45 degres behind. This was under the assumption that the E-767 was going down. If it had survived then one F-133 would close to 80 mls and finish it off with a NGMRAAM. Leaving the F-22's and B-2A's to the SU-52's they opened up on the F-35's. 28 NGLRAAM's were fired, 2 per F-35, and were guided in by the Airkbird command plane along with the F-133's that fired them.



The Pantearan fleet had managed to survive the missile strike and now was sending out fighters to retrieve vengence. Having a nearly 400ml buffer the bombers and most of the fighters went back to Zarbia but the F-133's stayed behind to give the Pantearans a nasty surprise. They rose high in the sky and waited for the Pantearans to hit the 150ml mark.

A new strike would now make up for the failed old one. 30 EB-9's with a heavy F-133 and SU-52 escort took off fro airfields in Zarbia. They wouldn't target the Pantearan main fleet but they would now hit the vangaurd of a mere 16 ships. While the ships were lined up firing at Zarbia the flight would line up paralel with it forming a 90 degree angle from the ships to the flight to the Zarbian coast. Staying 400 mls away from the Pantearan ships they launched their salvo. 100 Fasthawk and 50 MALAS-2 missiles were fired. Following the same pattern as before the MALAS-2 missile dropped their MT-2 torpedoes 70 mls out. The torpedoes headed in and would supercav at 200knts. Overhead the missiles would streak in as before. The one difference though was that the missiles flight paths were such that they would use the closest Pantearan ships to shield them from the rest. So at any one time only a fraction of the 16 ships would be able to put up their flakwall. Under the sea the torpedoes would continue in. While it was hoped the missiles would sink some ships the hopes were in the torpedoes to move in while they fired at the missiles and cause the real damage.

OOC: Pantera last time I do believe you did not respond to my MT-2 torpedoes, you only posted for the missiles.

While this was going on small ships began deploying some special toys into the Zarbian waters. A total of 800 were planned to be deployed.

SIC:
A small Orca sub group with a Nike accomplace headed out from Safehavenite waters. Becouse of the proximity it would be long before they were 140 mls from the AMF fleet that was now moving up. 50 mls in front of the sub group multiple USV's were providing alomst a sort of ASW perimeter for the subs. For now they were to make sure no enemy subs, ships or other threats snuck up on the sub group but that mission would change soon enough.

Back at armories in Safehaven and Zarbia Havenite technicians were putting the finishing touches on a new modification for their fastHawk missiles to deal with the Pantearan/AMF defenses. WHile it wouldn't be ready in any big numbers for a few days(rl) a batch to be used for field testing was being readied in Zarbia.
OOC: Mcleod03-Were did you get RSA's EB-1C planes and wolverine missiles? Not a flame or anything Im just wondering if he let you use them NS? You are New Zealand from W@W correct?
New Empire
09-12-2004, 01:44
OOC: The Wolverine ALCM and EB-1C were created by Dale Brown... We just adapted them for our own purposes.
Pantera
09-12-2004, 01:46
OOC: I think we need to keep this nuke free, as much as humanly possible, even if they are weak. If you use them, everyone else can, and will too. Nukes=degeneration of the RP, and I think we can all agree on that. No reply or damage from my giant missile barrage? Or Samtonias attack? Tsk tsk. That's one from me.

IC:

The air had almost cleared of flak when the first of the missiles were nailed by the AWAC sweeps. This time the SM-2 batteries fired early, making initial contact somewhere around 75 miles. The extremely low altitude of the incoming missiles made targetting difficult, but soon the system compensated and their precision returned. RAF pods wer fired as well, but only a few managed purchase against their enemy.

Again the flak fog formed, almost too late. A large portion of the missiles streaked onward and the Seawall again came to life, this time with its water-line turrets as well. The sound of the guns chatter was harsh as it chopped into those missiles, and the explosions were even harsher.

Fiercest of all the resistance was around the massie Plunder class of the vanguard and the solid core of the Warhounds Seabitch. Their CWIS systes thundered and annihilated the incoming. A ball of flame seemed to surround them as they slapped back the onslaught, methodically targetting and destroying their enemy.

For a moment it seemed as if the Reaver fleet had survived this assault, but then a spout of flame licked out of the hull of the warship Drogon. For a moment it seemed a small matter, then a gout of flame was spat from the hole and a savage concussion followed it. Those who were watching had blinked at the ferocity of the explosion, and where they had once seen the Drogon, they opened their eyes to the listing bow, still burning furiously. Massive chunks of flaming metal and even corpses shot through the air and came back to rain upon those ships closest to the broken Drogon.

Snarling, the Warhound reached for his comm,"Tell these fuck allies of ours we need air superiority twenty fucking minutes ago! I want that Belem force gone now. Another barrage. Keep 'em flying. And tell those pilots to take those enemy aircraft. Wipe them from the sky, you hear me?"

And from the decks of his carriers came another wave of missiles, the full barrage of every ship firing in a space of roughly thirteen seconds, and again some thirty seconds later. {OOC: Two.}. From the carriers came another flight of Panteran aircraft, who leapt into the uper atmosphere, AtmosDrop Bombers among these, while those fighters already in the air moved to support their comrades, their Knight's Hand-5 missiles streaked away at those Crimmond aircraft who fled and they closed quickly on those who lagged.

The Reaver aircraft already engaged were fighting savagely, for they considered the skies theirs by conquest. One pilot, his craft smoking and almost done somehow managed to carry death into the midst of a flight of Belem aircraft, his plane exploding amongst them as they fired on him.

"We've got something else up here in the stars, Reavers... Looks like inbound craft... Still far away but closing... No allies confirm. Going hot." A detachment of the Atmosfighters broke formation and swept to meet the incoming Belem craft. The heights also belonged to Pantera. What were these fools thinking?

Fire and death reigned on the waters and high in the air, and the Reavers reveled in it.
Zarbia
09-12-2004, 01:49
OOC:
1) How the hell is AMF planning to fight a 7 front war? His forces will be spread thin and he'll be shot to bits.
2) Is it just me or does Pantera never get hit by anything we throw at him? Your fog of flak would not work considering my missiles are going at Mach 3.
3) CLARIFY WITH SOME DAMN NUMBERS PLEASE. We need to know what you have so we can hit them. How in the hell are we going to guess how many ships you have? Between 600 and 800? Um...that's 200 give or take, that's too much, sorry. NUMBERS.
4) WTF is IDF doing? Are you going for only Egypt and Zarbia or only Egypt??
5) McLeod, your post was too vague, no one really knows what you're doing. Who's side are you on?

Where am I on a map? I'm in...nowhere? I'm not on a regular map, I will try to have a map made as quick as possible, I am currently in the Imperial Armies region though..
Safehaven2
09-12-2004, 01:51
OOC: When yo said didn't respond from an attack was that to me? Cause I didnt see one unless your talking about you sending your fighters to intercept which I did post something about. But back to the original attack you never responded to the torps I believe.
Automagfreek
09-12-2004, 02:00
OOC:
1) How the hell is AMF planning to fight a 7 front war? His forces will be spread thin and he'll be shot to bits.
2) Is it just me or does Pantera never get hit by anything we throw at him? Your fog of flak would not work considering my missiles are going at Mach 3.
3) CLARIFY WITH SOME DAMN NUMBERS PLEASE. We need to know what you have so we can hit them. How in the hell are we going to guess how many ships you have? Between 600 and 800? Um...that's 200 give or take, that's too much, sorry. NUMBERS.
4) WTF is IDF doing? Are you going for only Egypt and Zarbia or only Egypt??
5) McLeod, your post was too vague, no one really knows what you're doing. Who's side are you on?

Where am I on a map? I'm in...nowhere? I'm not on a regular map, I will try to have a map made as quick as possible, I am currently in the Imperial Armies region though..


OOC: 1. Easy. I have several million combat troops mobilized, and I purchased a shitload of new and used ships to beef up my navy. My intel will be quite good as it is a joint NATO, RBA, NWO, and Metus effort. Each Warchief basically equates to an entire branch of the military, with dedicated intel and support staff for each one. And how do you figure it's 7 fronts? I'm only in 2 places right now. :rolleyes:

2. Your missiles, even at Mach 3, are not invincible. It seems you and every one else on you side expects every single missile you launch to hit. You also are forgetting that Pantera has a very large and well equipped navy that's been fighting wars long before you ever found this site. You guys are also launching insane ammounts of missiles. You DO know that at this rate you will be totally out very quickly, right? In fact, Belem should be almost totally out by now on his aircraft.

3. Sorry if our idea of RP differs from yours. We prefer NOT to number wank like the lot of you, and as Pantera said don't expect us to write up huge fucking manifests of every single craft and unit we have. Not going to happen, that makes for a shitty and boring story. If you want to play a number game, go play with your calculator or something.

4. At this time I think only Egypt.

5. Um...MeLeod is on our side.
Pantera
09-12-2004, 02:02
A new strike would now make up for the failed old one. 30 EB-9's with a heavy F-133 and SU-52 escort took off fro airfields in Zarbia. They wouldn't target the Pantearan main fleet but they would now hit the vangaurd of a mere 16 ships. While the ships were lined up firing at Zarbia the flight would line up paralel with it forming a 90 degree angle from the ships to the flight to the Zarbian coast. Staying 400 mls away from the Pantearan ships they launched their salvo. 100 Fasthawk and 50 MALAS-2 missiles were fired. Following the same pattern as before the MALAS-2 missile dropped their MT-2 torpedoes 70 mls out. The torpedoes headed in and would supercav at 200knts. Under the sea the torpedoes would continue in. While it was hoped the missiles would sink some ships the hopes were in the torpedoes to move in while they fired at the missiles and cause the real damage.

OOC: Pantera last time I do believe you did not respond to my MT-2 torpedoes, you only posted for the missiles.

OOC: I've gotten a BS from everyone whose seen your torpedoes, here. From what we understand the torpedoes would have to be massive to even touch my ships. Imagine a Saturn Two rocket. Now imagine a plane trying to fire it... I'll take damages, and gladly, if you can explain the how... Specs somewhere?

Overhead the missiles would streak in as before. The one difference though was that the missiles flight paths were such that they would use the closest Pantearan ships to shield them from the rest. So at any one time only a fraction of the 16 ships would be able to put up their flakwall.

And this is assuming that my vanguard would be bunched like a bunch of ignorant asses, or simply in a battle line, waiting to be picked off from the flanks, neither of which is the case in the least.

I'll keep this post to edit and reply to your attacks when you've addressed the issues. Thanks there.

An ooc thread might be a fantstic idea. This one's quickly turning into an OOCfest.

EDIT: Sorry HAven, didn't see your post before I replied:

OOC: When yo said didn't respond from an attack was that to me? Cause I didnt see one unless your talking about you sending your fighters to intercept which I did post something about. But back to the original attack you never responded to the torps I believe.

No, it was to Belem.
Safehaven2
09-12-2004, 02:08
OOC: Ya, Zarbia is gonna make an OOC thread for this but about specs and such Ill send you the same links I sent IDF and Eredron on the stuff one sec, check your tgs in like 5 minutes.
Schultaria Prime
09-12-2004, 02:08
I'll answer question 1 and attempt to represent IDF to the best of my ability in question 4.

1. AMF can fight a 7 front war exactly like the United States could fight a three front war in World War II and Great Britain could fight a three front war in the Seven Years War: Allies. AMF only composes but a small part of a far larger coalition of allies that include elements of RBA, NWO, Metus, and some of the more active participants of NATO. AMF does not have to directly project his forces on all the fronts, provided that there's a significant friendly international presence that's competent enough to complete the job.

4. As for IDF, I assume that he's specifically attacking your colonies in Western Egypt, Zarbia. Another thread has been developed specifically for your colonial engagements; for the most part IDF is the only who has actively engaged thus far while certain nations (including myself) are currently engaging in a propaganda campaign off the coast of Tanzania before we make any military maneuvers. Click on the address below for the thread.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379819

-As for the number three argument I can understand both sides of the story; it would be nice to have some numbers to know exactly the situation each fleet is in, but I can also understand how it would devolve into nothing more than just dry statistics would get too boring too quickly. What I suggest is try to have a proper balance of story and statistics on both sides (and I know that's better said than done), but it would provide a clearance to some of the vagueness on Pantera's fleet size and composition and make Belem's posts a little less like walking advertisements for military technology given the amount of stats he throws out in a single paragraph.
Zarbia
09-12-2004, 02:09
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7661660#post7661660
OOC THREAD. ALL OOC POSTS FROM NOW ON GO IN THAT THREAD.
Samtonia
09-12-2004, 02:18
Dalton gazed again at the ready screen. They had reports popping up about a launch of hypersonic bombers. On a direct heading towards the fleet. He shook his head. “They have decided to attempt to attack us. US! And we don’t even know the damage done to their fleet yet. SAT-OPS better pick up their feet. Now, I’m going to hazard a guess that with that few in number, they’ll be dropping nukes. No idea what kind, but they will hurt no matter what. The Doujins can survive anything other then a direct hit with a large kiloton device, but even so, I’d rather not have radiation leaking. Not at all.”

He began to pace the deck. “We’ll reply in kind if any nuclear weapons are used. I mean, even if they’re small ones I’m not going to stand for the use of nuclear weapons against us. But that’s if they get through.” Nods were exchanged as a deck officer ran out of the room.

“We’ll get the bomber interceptors out. Launch a nice spread of guided missiles and make them independently guided by the flagship. Get the Devestation CIWS online right now and alert all vessels to prepare for an Omega-Two. I want a solid wall of flak thrown up. Those bombs won’t get through very accurately. Oh, and release Watchdog. The techs will love using it.”

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ASs the massive Doujins’ guns fell silent, the ships revealed what years of re-fitting had done to them. Deck plates pulled out and massive CIWS systems swiveled out from below deck. Missile batteries activated and the snouts of Flak-7 guns began swiveling around to an intercept vector.

At the same time, while the other vessels of the fleet began to move away from the Doujins, a string of high altitude interceptor craft climbed into the sky. Some were manned, with long range missiles to plot vectors towards enemy craft. Others were robotic, with the ability to zoom towards enemy launched missiles and blow both themselves and the missiles or bombs up with abandon. A more modern day Kamikaze, as the designers loved to call them.

The fighters primed their weapons and began launching them, in an enveloping formation designed to not allow the enemy bombers any room to move. With missiles above, below, and to the sides, the High altitude bombers were going to have to stay in the extreme upper atmosphere, if they wanted to survive.

And as the missiles streaked away at Mach-12, the newest portion of the Samtonian Hjigh Altitude Defensive System activated.

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Designed to look like commercial satellites, derelict shuttle hulks, or just plain space debris, a floating web of modern mines lay between the high altitude bombers and the nearest point they could accurately target their missiles. With the “skips” being fed into Samtonian targeting computers, the exact positions of the bombers were calculated and the trap was to be triggered at the zenith of the bump in near orbit.

And as Panteran fighters swept in towards an intercept and Samtonian missiles began to converge on the position, the ombers made yet another “skip” into subspace and the first of the mines began to blow.

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A single ten pound charge of C-4 was all that was needed to shatter the decrepit weather satellite into thousands of flaming pieces of shrapnel, moving at immensely high speeds directly into the Belemese[OOC: -ite, -ian?] bombers. Interspersed among those were tiny pellets, the portions of cluster bombs that so rightfully gave the name “cluster” to them.

This was but the first. At all points of the compass around the bombers, pieces of waste, rusted hulks, and the detritus of war began to detonate. The air around the bombers was quickly filled with a dusty field of shrapnel moving over ten times as fast as the bombers. Their skin would be no match for the high speed shrapnel, not to mention the explosives being hurled at them.

The rapidly expanding cloud of metal announced the Samtonian kill zone. And slowly, the cloud began to dissipate, revealing…[OOC-Take it from here Belem....oh, and read the sig. We're not going to like nukes too much. Not too much at all.]
Belem
09-12-2004, 02:20
OOC: you don't know icly there nukes yet.
IC post coming soon with damage from barrage coming in just researching accuracy of artillery shells at range.
Samtonia
09-12-2004, 02:32
[OOC- You've got four bombers, high altitudes, heading directly towards my fleet. Only four and we all know how much damage a doujin can take. I think can ascertain pretty goddamned well that there will be nukes involved. My men aren't idiots, thank you very much.

And accuracy would be helped by the simple fact I've already said they will be guided. By guidance lasers. On your ships or on the area of ocean. Plus you really won't be expecting the first strike very much, so I mean, if one volley gets through...]
Safehaven2
09-12-2004, 02:40
OOC: Guys use the OOC thread.
Zarbia
09-12-2004, 02:44
Central Command
Zarbia City

"Sir, enemy aircraft are in the air and causing damage. Shall we mobilize the Zarbhun?" asked General Zolicka, wiping the sweat off of his face with a blue hankerchief.
President Trotzig looked at the many screens in front of him, the battle seemed to be going well, few Zarbian casualties had occurred. The great damage caused to Zanta Harbour had been unexpected but for the most part everything seemed to be in control. "Yes. Send the Hawks."
Zolicka nodded eagerly and a smile crept across his face. The Hawks were Macabee made and made up the majority of Zarbia's air force. The skies would be taken back.

***

On the Zeredel airfield, where the Kondors had come back to refuel, the two hundred Hawks lifted off, heading straight for the Panteran aircraft. The force broke off into ten squadrons, ready to destroy whatever resistance they encountered.
Tyrandis
09-12-2004, 02:45
SIC:

Transmission to Panteran Fleet


PRIORITY: FLASH
AUTHORIZATION: Charlie-Zulu-Xray-Kilo

FROM: Fleet Admiral Nami Tamaki
TO: Panteran CinC
RE: War on Zarbia

Text as follows:
I apologize for my lateness, but the 1st Fleet has arrived to the battle. Expect aerial support within the next ten minutes.

Intelligence ascertained by E-2E Hawkeye AWACS and satellite photos indicates that Belem naval units have consumed a great deal of missile ammunition. We have a few submarine and Ekranoplan units ready to exploit this advantage, but we will need a distraction.

Our own aircraft are enroute to engage Havenite and Belem aerial assets, ETA five minutes.

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IC:

Skies over Theatre of Operations

The three hundred TSF-28B Seraph Air Superiority Fighters assigned for the mission had quite a task ahead; they needed to knock those damned fighters out of the sky, and fast.

Activating their thrust vectored engines, they swiftly ascended to 65,000 feet, in preparation for the assault.

Having a good deal of uplinked information regarding the strength and disposition of the target, thanks to the information aquired by AWACS and reconnaisance patrols, it was time for Tyrandis to make her debut on the field of battle.

Considering that the Belem aircraft had used over two thousand missiles, it was a given that they were out of ammunition, save perhaps close in cannons.

Therefore, each of the Tyrandisan fighters leveled their Gyrfalcon XLRAAMs, the latest in long-range air to air missile technology. With a semi-active RADAR, LIDAR/Doppler LIDAR tracker, these missiles could effectively take down the Belemite air prescence. The AAW and thrust-vectoring on the Gyrfalcons also helped a bit, making it capable of incredible manuvers.

(OOC: These are being fired from 150 mi away. The missiles have a max range of 185 mi.)

Activating down-looking RADAR for a fraction of a second, each of the Seraphs had marked two Belem fighters for death at the hands of an octagen warhead.

"Jackknife-Five-One to all pilots, engage targets!"

From the internal bays of the TSF-28Bs, two Gyrfalcon XLRAAMs were launched at every single one of the ammunition exhausted Belem aircraft. Once those missiles hit, the Seraphs would turn on their RADAR to check for the survivors, which would be dealt with swiftly by XSRAAMs and 27mm cannon fire.

The Seraphs then swept into the formations at Mach 2.5, guns and IR/LIDAR-seeking missiles blazing into the flesh of their victims...
Belem
09-12-2004, 03:40
ooc: fair enough Sam.

IC: Because of the extreme range of the enemy artillery bombardment of the Doujin ships only a few of the shells hit targets(ooc: non rocketassisted 16'' shells only have 50% accuracy rate in a 50 by 50 yard box square and only about 30% accuracy with rocket assistance at further range.) However three Destroyed and 1 Frigate on the perimeter were hit and heavily damaged by the bombardment and nearly crippled.


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air attack

THe Vanquishes activated there active radar jamming and start deploying counter measures as the threat alert warnings went off, the crew sent the pre arranged signal back to command to deploy the EMP satelite.

Two of the bombers are knocked out by a combination of missile and debris attacks and one is damaged but able to continue the mission. The remaining two bombers use the dust of the explosions to there advantage to hide there radar signatures as they engage there laser targetting switches and began painting the four Battleships.

The EMP satelite engaged its thrusters and sped into the atmosphere before detonating at a pre arranged position over the Samtonia fleet sending out a EMP pulse with a 60 mile radius(ooc: Since you probably have EMP shielding this attack is just to force your computers to reboot or stutter for a few seconds giving a window of opportunity for the bombs to get through.)

The two bombers each dropped there 6 bunkerbusters bombs, the front of which contained 5 feet of concrete capable of penetrating 30 feet of concrete followed by a small nuclear device(extremely small yield it would only cause 200 feet of blast damage.) Being the warhead is primarily concrete and metal and contains no explosives CIWS or flak would have a very limited effect. The bombs also have no engines they have fins to glide them to the target.

The bombs are targetted spread across each ship with one centered towards the forward batteries, one towards the bridge area and the third towards the rear batteries and engines. Though one bomb would most likely be able to cripple the ship the real purpose was for the bombings to explode one of the ships powder kegs considering the ships have thousands of tons of explosives, the resulting explosion would be more damaging to the fleet then all the bombs combined.

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As the bombs were falling, the fleet launched its own counter attack against the Samtonia fleet. Three fiery Avenger arsenal ships let loose with half there compliment of Javelins at the perimeter ships of the Samtonia fleet.(a total of 384 missiles.) 84 of the missiles were directed against the Samtonia carriers.
Belem
09-12-2004, 03:50
Against Tyrandis.

The Fighters took evasive action as soon as the first missiles were detected incoming. Most of the Tiger Sharks which were fitted for anti shipping duty broke formation and continued towards the fleet as they dropped chaff and counter measures behind them using there range and speed to outdistance the missiles targetted towards them.

The 200 Vampires in Thearte dropped counter measures and took evasive actions as they returned fire with there own Long Range missiles. Each launching 4 Scorpion missiles at the incoming bogeys(ooc: Scorpion uses a combination of Radar and IR to engage there targets, and can get close to mach 7.) As the missiles detonated or missed there marks the fighters redirected to face the new threat with half the remaining vampires going high towards the enemy air group. They matched the speed of the incomings and locked on there remaining 2-3 Racer medium missiles preparing to launch at 50 miles.

60 Vampires are taken out by the missiles, and 40 Tiger Sharks.
Vastiva
09-12-2004, 05:00
OOC: Please review the newest advances in the "crusade against AIDS".

Here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6678755/) and here (http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-12/mgh-sik120604.php) and here (http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=108377).

A plain english verision is here (http://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2445)

Given the tech difference between RL and NS, I'd say a week - once the use of a bio-agent is detected - is about right.

OOC:

Ah, Vas you know something... thats something i'll credit you with :) (thats a compliment not an insult btw)

Right, as for this:

AMF has stated he has changed his Sentinals genetic make up to lack shall we say certain elements of what would normally occur in most natural human populations, since 99.9% (reoccuring) of naturals will have trace/dormant/active genes in what he has removed. This will mean that the virus will not actually affect said humans, because they have that dormant gene or gene(s). Since AMF's sentinals lack the presence of these genes, they will be hit along with the absolutely tiny minority who lack these genes as well. In short what AMF has done by using such widespread genetic alteration has left his troops open to such attacks by making them very distinct.

As for how long it takes to deal with a specific geneome virus, it takes years currently to produce a viable antidote even to really specific viral infections. They still haven't come up with true treatments for a lot of genetic infections etc... if you see my point. It's specific, but I do know ways AMF can get round this... it's not created to be an uber weapon only as a weapon to use against people who use genetically altered troops in MT (or was). I didn't have much intention to use it until AMF decided to go to war with number of my friends...

Not so easy to neutralise...

As for genetic drift, I had thought of this. This is what gives the virus it's inherent weakness and strength at the same time, it is mutogenically stable in so far as it engineered to attack X, Y and Z pattern and only attack said pattern, but it also means it would be easier to isolate and cure than a normal artifical weapon. However, this will shave a few years off your research but in my estimation that would be already too late... Thus it can be re-configured to a new biology as well etc...

I don't really want to argue this, but if AMF genetically modifies his troops, he has to accept the principle of a genetically altered virus targeted at geneology of his Sentinals. He can create an antidote if he wants, I never said he couldn't what I am saying is that it will take much longer than a week.
Belem
09-12-2004, 05:22
ooc: even if they develop a vaccine within a week or a few months you still have the job of producing millions of vaccines and distrubiting them which will definately take atleast 3-6 months or longer depending how many you need, their shelf life, how far they must be transported.
Vastiva
09-12-2004, 05:32
ooc: even if they develop a vaccine within a week or a few months you still have the job of producing millions of vaccines and distrubiting them which will definately take atleast 3-6 months or longer depending how many you need, their shelf life, how far they must be transported.

OOC: Belem - read the threads, they will explain why a week is about it. If you don't understand, TG me, and I'll explain in more depth.

In short form - one batch, some yogurt or rapid-multiplying bacteria, controlled conditions, and you've got vaccine coming out your pores. Faster if you can incubate on a host, which is usually difficult on people as they are so different, but in this case - very possible. The antibody groups will be the same all the way across the spectrum, within tolerance. Ergo, a week.
DontPissUsOff
09-12-2004, 05:36
The problem is, if even a couple of bases are altered in ONE virion (assuming it doesn't result in a fatal mutation), that virion will propagate. What's more, if the altered bases allow it to attack not only Sentinel cells (assuming for a moment that you could configure it to attack Sentinels only, which is, as has been mentioned, essentially not possible anyway) but also any old human, it will be a far more successful pathogen than its progenitor, because it is able to propagate in more hosts more readily. One mutation, and it comes right back into your face; that's why nobody dares use bioweapons, no matter how good their weaponeers are.

Life always finds a way around, no matter how many restrictions you try to place on it. He who challenges life to a duel shall surely lose.
IDF
09-12-2004, 06:41
OOC: I don't think I got a damage report from my F-35 and B-2 strike at SAM sites, radar sites, and entrenched zones on the Northern border of Tanzania.
The Wickit Klownz
09-12-2004, 07:06
OOC: used ships to beef up my navy.
OOC: dont forget the stealth capabilities of those subs, homie. they ARE of IDFs design... (the GALAXYs i bought the right to, IDF)...
Belem
09-12-2004, 15:57
ooc: and what range were these launced at from my fleet? because I do have CAP Patrols around my fleet im not going to just let massive bombers into range.
Moleland
09-12-2004, 16:06
Tag
McLeod03
09-12-2004, 19:20
The main force of the entire strike wing, the EB-1Cs, began taking final targetting information for their Wolverine cruise missiles and Python anti-radiation missiles. As soon as they reached 175 miles from their targets, they would begin to launch their payloads before turning back and heading for home under the cover of the UCAVs and Wolfcats.

OOC: Well, looks like it was about 175 miles. Unless you happen to be able to detect stealth aircraft at that range and vector in yet more aircraft, there isn't much you can do. Especially with your aircraft tangling with the Panterans and Samtonians.
Belem
09-12-2004, 19:28
OOC: I had other fighters on CAP the ones engaged with Tyrandis were the ones on there way back to the fleet and airbases.

IC post coming soon.
McLeod03
09-12-2004, 19:33
OOC: Deleted post in question. For now, assume the bombers are 250 miles out, and still escorted by the Wolfcats, with the StealthHawks nearby instead of attacking the Zarbians. In other words, ignore my last IC post (Now deleted).
Samtonia
10-12-2004, 04:11
“Shit!” The sound of the radar officer swearing turned Dalton’s head. As he began to turn, suddenly the massive screen went blue, stuttered, then restarted. Dalton could tell it had happened across the command ship, with techs smashing their fists against the sides of the computers.

“Hmmm…” he mused. “What could be up…..what could be up….”

And at that instant, a series of lines began moving from the two surviving bombers. “Werewolves incoming, repeat, werewolves incoming,” droned the toneless voice. “Estimated number twelve, estimated yield- anywhere from 10 kilotons to 75 kilotons. Advising evasive maneuvers.”

Dalton began to sweat. These had to be nukes. So few- only three targeted per ship. “Institute plan Silver Bullet,” he whispered to an aide. “And get the ships moving!”[/I]

++++++++++++++
As the enemy bombers began to flee, the Samtonian fighters roared after them, wing cannon firing and missiles leaping off the rack. The bombers were almost certainly doomed. They were too slow to get away from Mach-12 missiles at such close range. With the fighters rocketing away, it also distanced them from what might become ground zero at any time.

And as the bombs plummeted on an intercept course from 35 km. out, the four massive targets began accelerating. The going was slow and the course change was almost nothing, true, but even small course changes would cause the bombs to miss.

While the ships sped up, they let a cloud of flak and explosive shells begin to surround the bombs. Though the bombs themselves were sturdy, the wings and fins used to guide them were not, indeed could not be. And though the pieces of iron, steel, and fire bounced off the solid bodies, holes began to form in the fins. Guidance wings were ripped off and a series of bombs began to swoop down into the ocean prematurely.

The same thing happened with the drones, as they hurled themselves in front of the bombs, detonating, their sacrifice shoving the bombs out of their course towards the Samtonian ships.

With the massive energy exerted to stop the bombs, only three were able to continue on course. Of the nine that dropped from the sky, one dropped through a luckless Destroyer and sent her to the bottom, a film of oil settling above the cerulean blue ocean.

Three were left on course. One was head for he command ship, the SNS Death, while the other two were on an intercept course for the SNS Pestilence. With the effort doubling to shoot them out of the sky, a veritable wall of steel rose into the sky to meet the oncoming bombs.

The one targeted at the War was finally blown off of its course, sent on a direct course with a five-inch gun and her crew, the luckless gun and crew hurtling into the ocean along with the dented bomb. War would easily survive to fight another day.

Pestilence wasn’t so lucky. While one splashed directly to the side of the ship, hitting the port side with a blast of water, the final bomb wavered for a moment then crashed down into the ship a bit behind amidships. The massive ship seemed to stagger for a moment, then suddenly start as a massive explosion could be heard. As onlookers watched, a gout of flame shot up through the jagged rent in the deck, followed by a huge cloud that began to rise above the fleet.

Although that appeared to be the only damage, the massive ship slowly began to lose speed. The ship was hurting.

++++++++++
“Damage assessment!” barked Dalton, as he hurried towards the viewing bridge.

“One five inch gun lost off us, the Destroyer SNS Octavia sunk with all hands on board, and massive damage to the Pestilence. Appears to have hit near reactors one and backup. We’re waiting for a damage report now.”

Suddenly, the figure of a naval officer appeared on-screen. Older and battle scarred, he ominously was wearing a hazmat suit, fully covering himself, a scene repeated by all command bridge staff.

“Dalton, we’re hurting,” said the officer, Prefect Arthur Chembliss. “Reactor one was fifty feet from the bomb when it blew. We’ve got no more reactor one and it vented everything through the hole in deck. Twelve levels have at least some damage from the passage of the bomb and half our ship is contaminated, along with backups two and three.”

He shook his head. “We’re down to half power and quarter turning, though that should be fixed shortly. We’ve got acute radiation leakage, which probably will plague this ship until it’s berthed. But that’s not the worst of it.”

Dalton raised an eyebrow. “And what could be worse? Your ship is now living up to the moniker Pestilence”

Chembliss appeared to break down for a moment before regaining his composure. “James, they used tactical nukes. Every one of those bombs was basically a nuke.”

Dalton nearly collapsed. “Are you sure?”

“Yes James. We’re dead certain. And there were twelve of them. You know what this means.”

Dalton looked down. “Probable retaliation. God help both Belem and Samtonia. This is a day that shall be remembered in the annals of man as the day we stared total death in the eye.” He looked back up at the view screen. “I an only hope we can decide upon the appropriate reply. I hope for Samtonia’s sake we don’t lose to death’s visage.”

At that moment, a controller interrupted him. “Sir, we’re picking up cruise missiles inbound. Vampire, repeat, Vampires away. Activating Crucifix system.”

+++++++++
And above the fleet the massive radiation filled cloud slowly formed a massive growth, a mushroom cloud as some named it. And before its orange color blew away into the blue sky, some looking up might have noticed a death’s head grinning madly against the empty sky. And as its deadly leer slowly faded away, a chill went through Dalton’s body.
Belem
10-12-2004, 05:43
ooc: ill make an IC post some time tommorow or early in the weekend. I'm starting finals weeks in school and have about 3 projects due next week.

Sorry for the lack of activity.
Zarbia
10-12-2004, 21:56
Open message to all parties involved

Zarbia would like to offer peace to everyone involved. We know that no one wants to continue fighting and suffering so we are offering to end this struggle. All AMF and allied military must leave Zarbian waters immediately and head back to wherever they came. We will only offer this once, only a fool would not take it.
Automagfreek
11-12-2004, 02:28
~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

It is so amusing how a coward dog such as yourself talks so big before the bullets start flying then is he first to tuck tail and begin backpeddling. Your 'offer' for peace is laughable at best. If you truely wanted peace you never would have gotten involved, and I'm afraid things have gone to far now to look the other direction and let a vomitus mass such as yourself slink away.

No deal. The bloodshed will only stop when the combined armies of AMF and it's allies stand victorious atop the rubble that is about to be Zarbia.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p984672.jpg
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Tyrandis
11-12-2004, 02:44
[The Air War]

The sudden mobilization of Belemese fighters did not surprise the Seraph pilots; after all, they were trained to react to every situation, every contingency, with the composure and skill that they acquired during flight school. As a result, the five air wings of TSF-28Bs swiftly responded to the hundreds of blips that dotted their AN-TSPQ Mk 16 Mod 10 RADAR screens.

"FUCK!" screamed a pilot as his bistatic arrays detected the incredible number of LRAAMs that were headed for his direction. Since the Tyrandisan pilots knew that the incoming Scorpion missiles used RADAR guidance, the TSF-28s activated their medium-range jammers to hopefully scramble and thus force the munitions to miss. Furthermore, each of the Seraphs dropped chaff, to thus divert the attentions of the Belemese missiles. Since the oncoming Scorpions were coming in at Mach 7, their IR sensors would be rendered useless by the intense heat friction.

All the while these counter-measures were being made, the TSF-28s quickly reacted to the arrival of the Vampires. At 70 kilometers, two Kestrel XMRAAMs were fired at each of the oncoming Belemese fighters, their payloads screaming through the skies at a speed of Mach 4.5 as the intricate Active RADAR system mounted on the Kestrels guided the deadly munitions to their prey, the Belemese fighters. Once they reached within range, the LIDAR seeker section engaged and drove the missiles into the steel bodies of their targets.

"Phoenix-One-One to all wings, report in!" shouted the lead flyer, a Captain Kenneth T. Wexley as he swerved to avoid the morass of Vampire-launched LRAAMs. His chaff pods had fortunately confused the missiles that were designated to down him, but others were not quite as lucky.

"Hawk Wing reporting in, Two-Two and Two-Three are down,"
"Jackknife reporting, we've lost six!"

The radio chatter continued on, as Wexley made a quick count of downed Seraphs. Adding the numbers in his sharp mind, he realized that some twenty two flyers would not be coming home.

"God damnit." cursed the Captain under his breath. As according to tradition, he, the commanding officer, would have the unpleasant task of writing the letters to the bereaved. But first, Wexley had to lead his Seraphs to victory over the heathens of Belem. He glanced at his RADAR display, to see how many Vampires remained before the dogfights in the Zarbian airspace began. Instinctively, the Captain's fingers slid to the gun triggers as he urged his bird to Mach 2.8. The TSF-28D Special Issue variant fighter that he was flying did not disappoint as its massive twin TC-250-PW-60 pulse-detonation hybrid engines propelled the Seraph and Wexley with it into the void of annihilation.

There would be many more deaths today as Seraph and Vampire grappled with one another in the bloodstained skies. Streaks of XMRAAMs and 27mm cannon fire set the very atmosphere alight in a wave of flame, all the while as the Tyrandisan pilots engaged in a monumental aerial showdown with the planes of Belem.

"Burn in hell!" screamed Captain Wexley as his 27mm Mauser blasted apart a Vampire, scattering the body of its pilot into the stratosphere. Not satisfied with his kill, he turned his attention to the fallen Belemese fighter's wingman. He watched with macabre glee as a Kite XSRAAM flared out from his wingtip pylon mount and hit the unlucky Vampire, sending the bird into a spiral of doom before it finally went down over the calm seas of the Atlantic. Like a man possessed, he flung his Seraph across the field of war, bringing death to all those unfortunate enough to cross his path, just as the other TSF-28s engaged in the sector followed his lead, guns and missiles cutting a swath of destruction into the Belemese formations.
Samtonia
11-12-2004, 02:47
The Council of Thirteen was meeting again, their mood jocular at this point in time.

“So they actually asked for a surrender?” laughed Carl Vanderhoven, Minister of foreign affairs.

“Guess so,” nodded Rich Cohen, head of the Intelligence Services. “I’d assume though we’re not giving it to them.”

“Most certainly not,” shouted Field Marshal Gambry, Deputy Defense Minister. [I] “We shall fight them on the hills, on the beaches, and the cities. They can never surrender!”

Archbishop Weakland leaned over to a colleague on his left. “Can he ever be quiet?”

Dr Ergezen, Minister of health, shook his head. “Appears no. Although I don’t personally like the slaughter. Against my oaths.”

Weakland nodded. “My religious leaders sure as hell don’t like it. Neither do I. But we were outvoted, along with Yumatso.”

As the ministers continued their meeting, with tea and crumpets passed around from time to time, it seemed as if nothing could unhinge them. Until, that is, a messenger moved over to Minister X and whispered something in his ear. As the elected leader of the Council blanched, the room fell silent.

“Well, what is it old chap?” asked Gambry, trying to smile, though he clearly was failing after seeing the look on their leader’s face. “Wife gave you another landscape portrait to try to judge?”

Minister X licked his lips. “I have…..before me…..reports of an attack on the Main Fleet. They’ve been attacked by Belemese high altitude bomber. With nukes.”

And the room fell utterly silent.
Zarbia
11-12-2004, 02:51
OOC: The amusing thing is how you guys talk so much about DEATH AND DESTRUCTION RAHHH and all this bullshit, yet I don't see much going on.

You guys just want to tell some lame ass story with characters no one cares about while others want to fight a war.

How is this ever going to end? Basically you guys just want to win while telling some great story, unfortunately you are the only ones.

The rubble that is about to be Zarbia? You mean the Zarbia that you guys are 500 miles away from? Yeah, I guess so. Good job.

I guess we must continue with another amazing rp conducted by the master of rping, AMF.
Automagfreek
11-12-2004, 02:53
OOC: The amusing thing is how you guys talk so much about DEATH AND DESTRUCTION RAHHH and all this bullshit, yet I don't see much going on.

You guys just want to tell some lame ass story with characters no one cares about while others want to fight a war.

That's what role-playing is: telling a story. If your idea of fighting a war is number wanking, then more power to you, but most people on this site don't play that game.

How is this ever going to end? Basically you guys just want to win while telling some great story, unfortunately you are the only ones.

The rubble that is about to be Zarbia? You mean the Zarbia that you guys are 500 miles away from? Yeah, I guess so. Good job.

Why are you getting so worked up? Obviously you don't fully grasp the concept of role-play. Try reading some of the sticky threads.

I guess we must continue with another amazing rp conducted by the master of rping, AMF.

Can the insults please. You're the only one throwing a fit here.
The Island of Rose
11-12-2004, 02:56
OOC: The amusing thing is how you guys talk so much about DEATH AND DESTRUCTION RAHHH and all this bullshit, yet I don't see much going on.

IC, duh.

You guys just want to tell some lame ass story with characters no one cares about while others want to fight a war.

I care about these characters and it adds to the story.

How is this ever going to end? Basically you guys just want to win while telling some great story, unfortunately you are the only ones.

Hello?! That is what RPing is about. You're supposed to tell a great story, not numberwank, tech wank, and wank all along.

The rubble that is about to be Zarbia? You mean the Zarbia that you guys are 500 miles away from? Yeah, I guess so. Good job.

Again, that is IC.

I guess we must continue with another amazing rp conducted by the master of rping, AMF.

And this is the case of calling the kettle black. You call us cronies yet you like AMF. Heh.

I'm the bold.
Zarbia
11-12-2004, 02:58
Never do I numberwank. Unless of course saying something like, "The two hundred soldiers advanced..." is numberwanking, then I apologize for trying make the rp understandable and clear.

I'm not wussing out or anything I'm just tired of playing in a shitty rp. Whatever, let's keep going, though it will never end because you guys don't ever post numbers. Oh yes, I forgot, that's numberwanking.

Lame.
Zarbia
11-12-2004, 03:00
I guess we must continue with another amazing rp conducted by the master of rping, AMF.

And this is the case of calling the kettle black. You call us cronies yet you like AMF. Heh.

You're great with sarcasm aren't you?
Presgreif
11-12-2004, 03:01
Never do I numberwank. Unless of course saying something like, "The two hundred soldiers advanced..." is numberwanking, then I apologize for trying make the rp understandable and clear.

I'm not wussing out or anything I'm just tired of playing in a shitty rp. Whatever, let's keep going, though it will never end because you guys don't ever post numbers. Oh yes, I forgot, that's numberwanking.

Lame.

ooc: For someone who has posted less than 1 post per day since he joined, I find it amazing that you consider yourself to be such an authority on roleplaying. Truth be told, I haven't even heard of you before.
Samtonia
11-12-2004, 03:01
[OOC- Move it to the OOC thread please chaps. Thanks!]
The Island of Rose
11-12-2004, 03:02
You're great with sarcasm aren't you?


((OOC: I try :) ))


Zarbia Never do I numberwank. Unless of course saying something like, "The two hundred soldiers advanced..." is numberwanking, then I apologize for trying make the rp understandable and clear.

I'm not wussing out or anything I'm just tired of playing in a shitty rp. Whatever, let's keep going, though it will never end because you guys don't ever post numbers. Oh yes, I forgot, that's numberwanking.

Lame.

((OOC: But it doesn't add story. It's not always about war, each country has a personality. That's why AMF is respected, because of his RP ability not his numbers. They post numbers not to the point that they show the amount of grenades a squad has.))
Samtonia
11-12-2004, 03:04
[OOC- OOC thread TIOR and all other arguments about the qualitites of a good RP. Because I really think that's impossible to argue over, but still. Let's take it to the dedicated OOC thread.]
Zarbia
11-12-2004, 03:06
ooc: For someone who has posted less than 1 post per day since he joined, I find it amazing that you consider yourself to be such an authority on roleplaying. Truth be told, I haven't even heard of you before.

I don't think I am the authority on roleplaying.

Are you seriously bringing my POST COUNT into this?

Wow, I'm not going any farther.
Presgreif
11-12-2004, 03:08
I don't think I am the authority on roleplaying.

Are you seriously bringing my POST COUNT into this?

Wow, I'm not going any farther.

ooc: Well, seeing as how its so low you can't have had much experience roleplaying on NS at all, yes, I am.
Belem
11-12-2004, 19:55
ooc: so this RP is off?

LOL I cant take a break for 1 day to catch up on sleep without everything falling apart.
Samtonia
12-12-2004, 00:24
[OOC- I think it is, even after the whining and arguments]
Presgreif
12-12-2004, 00:39
ooc: That's just pathetic... :mad:
Samtonia
12-12-2004, 00:45
ooc: That's just pathetic... :mad:
[OOC- To whom is this adressed? and about what? Please clarify, preferably in the OOC thread. Thanks!]
Zarbia
12-12-2004, 00:46
I'll keep going if I must.
Tyrandis
12-12-2004, 02:57
OOC: Well, I'm waiting for a response to my assault against Belem's aerial units.
Tyrandis
12-12-2004, 17:19
OOC: Ok, since the air theatre is still busy, I'll probably do a naval assault later in the day.
Zarbia
12-12-2004, 17:29
OOC: I'm sorry but due to RL issues (Final exams) and other RL problems I will be forced to end all of my current RPs. Once again I apologize, but this is out of my control.

Thanks, Zarbia.
Tyrandis
12-12-2004, 17:33
OOC: I'm sorry but due to RL issues (Final exams) and other RL problems I will be forced to end all of my current RPs. Once again I apologize, but this is out of my control.

Thanks, Zarbia.

OOC: Alright then. It's no problem for me.