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TIMIOCATO (PPA) - In the second of two bills passed today, the CLP and Senatoro have agreed to allow military bases from its allies on Pacitalian soil. The passing of the bill is expected to bring at least 15 million persons to Pacitalia along with over 60,000 kilotonnes of equipment and supplies. Allies are encouraged to contact the Agustinate of Defence or the Agustinate of International Relations.

Some Important Facts

Rent: $1,000,000 Now $1,500,000 USD per acre, per year.
Size Limit: 35,000 acres Now 17,500 acres
Options: Land, naval or air bases permitted.
Extras: Must be paid for by yourself, you must determine your own costs as the money used for "extras" will not go through the government of Pacitalia.
Clause: Your nation is responsible for the reimbursement on any damage to Pacitalian property or loss of Pacitalian lives that result from any deeds you commit at these bases.

I will post a map of military bases here soon.

List of Nations with Military Bases
Dhabi (35,000 acres)
Hamptonshire (35,000 acres) - land owned by Hamptonshire
Hyndu (200 acres) - 10 year contract
Lachenburg (2,000 acres)
Lindim (17,500 acres)
Nutropinia (35,000 acres) + 3 extras
Praetonia (35,000 acres) - land owned by Praetonia
Present Day Comatica (17,250 acres)
Romandeos (35 acres)
Sarzonia (35,000 acres) - land owned by Sarzonia
Skinny87 (100 acres)
Sora Lovers (10,000 acres)
The Macabees (17,500 acres)
The Voltarum (30,000 acres)

Pacitalia, you have telegram.

TG received.

Bump!

Whittier would be interested in stationing a small contingent of 500 troops in Pacitalia in return we will pay rent to Pacitalia's government.

Confirmed.

How much is the rent and how much land are you letting us use?Also does it have ocean front property for a naval port?

Rent is $1M USD per acre, per RL year. Yes, you can have your base beside water. However, you must pay the construction costs for piers and whatever else you want to have on the base.

Whittier wishes to rent 32,000 acres of land for its military base in Pacitalia for a price of 32 billion dollars per year.

OOC: That would be 50 square miles. Probably won't use it all though.

Sora Lovers would be interested in stationing a number of troops in Pacitalia.

Sora Lovers will pay the Pacitalian government the requested amount rent.

Sora lovers would like the request 10,000 acres of land. At a cost of 10 Million a year.

Sora Lovers would be interested in stationing a number of troops in Pacitalia.

Sora Lovers will pay the Pacitalian government the requested amount rent.

Sora lovers would like the request 10,000 acres of land. At a cost of 10 Million a year.
You only want 15.625 square miles?

Confirmed

Whittier - 32,000 acres (129 sq. km.) - $32,000,000,000 USD
Sora Lovers - 10,000 acres (40 sq. km.) - $10,000,000,000 USD

Bump!

Official Statement from the Office of the Royal Navy Chief of Staff

The Royal Armed Forces of Hamptonshire, through the Royal Navy, wishes to acquire 35,000 acres of coastal territory for the construction of a multi-purpose military base. It is our wish to come to a more permanent agreement with the Pacitalian on the long-term status of our projected military base.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/hamptonshire/Ernest_King.jpg
Fleet Admiral Sir Geoff Kirkssen, KCHE
Royal Navy Chief of Staff
Vice Chairman, Joint High Command Council

Confirmed. Most bases are considered "long-term bases" anyway.

Hamptonshire - 30,000 acres (120 sq. km) - $30,000,000,000 USD

To broaden the military horizons of our newly founded nation, the Confederacy of Lachenburg would like to purchase 2000 acres of land (preferably in the mountians) for our own military base.

The base will be staffed by the 8th Gebirgsschutz Abteilung, which currently numbers 9,000 enlisted and 1,000 officers.

The total cost is 2,000,000,000 USD and will be wired to your countries banking system once the order is confirmed.

Maximillian Klaussenburg
Direktor of Defense
Confederacy of Lachenburg

SIC: We require 35,000 Acres per year at a cost of 35 Billion Per RL Year. However we have some extras to add on, the base should be in an unpopulated area.

Maintain 10 Nuclear Missile Silos-2 Billion USD Per Year

5 Mile Border of Forbidden Airspace around Base-2 Billlion USD Per Year

Right to Test Chem and Bio Weapons-1 Billion USD Per Year

Right to Interrogate and Torture on Base without recrimination-1 Billion USD Per Year

We will mainly be using the base to test secret new airplanes however.

What is your environment like?

Confirmed

Whittier - 32,000 acres (129 sq. km.) - $32,000,000,000 USD
Sora Lovers - 10,000 acres (40 sq. km.) - $10,000,000,000 USD
We offer 2 billion for the air space over the insallation to be declared by your govt. to be off limits to civilian aircraft and non Whittier or non Pacitalian aircraft.

Whittier I think that is implied when you get a military base, as is the right to kill any trespasser.

To...

Confirmed - Lachenburg - 2,000 acres @ $2,000,000,000 USD in a mountain setting

Confirmed - Nutropinia - 35,000 acres @ $35,000,000,000 USD in an unpopulated area; 8-km No-Aeronautical-Trespass Zone @ $2,000,000,000 USD; 10 nuclear missile silos @ $2,000,000,000 USD (however, they must all be on the base or within that 8km radius); Right to Interrogate and Torture Captives with Recrimination @ $1,000,000,000 USD.

Unfortunately we cannot permit you to test chemical or biological weapons on your base as it poses a serious threat to the health and safety of nearby citizens of Pacitalia. As well, Pacitalia is prepared to allow you the right to interrogate/torture captives at no cost if you allow us access to the blueprints of your new aeronautic technology.

Confirmed - Whittier - $2 billion to declare airspace over base non-civilian and Whittier Military/Pacitalian Armed Forces-only

Despite this being obvious, we still think it's better you have our actual consent than to just assume. ;) And the money offered isn't that easy to pass on.

Siap - We are a tropical climate (RL Mexico) with diverse terrain, ranging from low, hilly, agricultural areas, high rocky mountains and soft beaches.

Confirmed - Lachenburg - 2,000 acres @ $2,000,000,000 USD in a mountain setting

Confirmed - Nutropinia - 35,000 acres @ $35,000,000,000 USD in an unpopulated area; 8-km No-Aeronautical-Trespass Zone @ $2,000,000,000 USD; 10 nuclear missile silos @ $2,000,000,000 USD (however, they must all be on the base or within that 8km radius); Right to Interrogate and Torture Captives with Recrimination @ $1,000,000,000 USD.

Unfortunately we cannot permit you to test chemical or biological weapons on your base as it poses a serious threat to the health and safety of nearby citizens of Pacitalia. As well, Pacitalia is prepared to allow you the right to interrogate/torture captives at no cost if you allow us access to the blueprints of your new aeronautic technology.

Confirmed - Whittier - $2 billion to declare airspace over base non-civilian and Whittier Military/Pacitalian Armed Forces-only

Despite this being obvious, we still think it's better you have our actual consent than to just assume. ;) And the money offered isn't that easy to pass on.

Siap - We are a tropical climate (RL Mexico) with diverse terrain, ranging from low, hilly, agricultural areas, high rocky mountains and soft beaches.


We will give you access to all blueprints for the waiving of the fee on two conditions. One) Cannot be used out side of Pacitalia or sold. Two) A waiver to the clause stating we must reimburse any damage to Pacitalian property or personnel.

Of course, we will not sell or move these blueprints and they will be heavily guarded. However, we can't agree to the second part. How about we compromise and say only if people are killed or hurt?Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence

Brash, uncouth, merciless Pacitalians bump topics.

Ok, and by not selling we also mean not selling the technology you build from the blueprints. How about this, waiver from property damage and since we are both SEATO members permission to shoot upon sight anyone who wanders on Nutropinian Property or any plane that violates our airspace including the 8 km boundary zone.

Whittier I think that is implied when you get a military base, as is the right to kill any trespasser.
Not if they are Pacitalian cause even though we foreigners are renting his land, we are still his guests and our forces must still obey his laws. Unless they are on the bases. When my troops are on my base, they are bound by my nations laws, when your forces are on your base, they are subject to your nation's laws. But once either or our troops steps off the base, they become subject to Pacitalian laws as long as they remain off base. And if they get in trouble off base, it creates diplomatic headaches for the two sides involved.

Ok, and by not selling we also mean not selling the technology you build from the blueprints. How about this, waiver from property damage and since we are both SEATO members permission to shoot upon sight anyone who wanders on Nutropinian Property or any plane that violates our airspace including the 8 km boundary zone.

Of course. Done deal. Thanks :)

Not if they are Pacitalian cause even though we foreigners are renting his land, we are still his guests and our forces must still obey his laws. Unless they are on the bases. When my troops are on my base, they are bound by my nations laws, when your forces are on your base, they are subject to your nation's laws. But once either or our troops steps off the base, they become subject to Pacitalian laws as long as they remain off base. And if they get in trouble off base, it creates diplomatic headaches for the two sides involved.

Good call.

Having been actually stationed in a foreign nation in rl, I have some personal experience with how all that stuff works.

We would be delighted to exchange military bases with Pacitalia.

(OOC: Bump)

(OOC: Bump)

OOC: Thought that meant you had posted that already, but you didn't. I was a little confused, but now I got it. ;)

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To: Generalissimo J.L.
From: Prime Minister Timothy Ell

I agree that military base exchanges is an excellent option for our two nations. After all, family should protect family.

OOC: Forgive that, but I'm starting to think your and my nations' relationship is like Canada-US, but a more equal one instead of one-sided.

(OOC: Could you show where exactly your nation is located on a map? >_>)

Dhabi Department of Defense

As Dhabi becomes a bigger nation we need to establish and presence in the world and thanks to you country you are giving us that chance. Our Air Force would like to build it largest base outside of Dhabi and would like to make it the home of our Special Overseas Air Operations Unit (SOAOU). Money has been enclosed with this message we are willing to pay the amount for 35,000 acres of land and we are willing to employ some of your citizens to work on the base and to help build the base hopefully it will help your cities local economy thank you very much and hope we have economically sound years.

Sec of Defense: Alexander Washington

the neo sephrioth meteria troopers need a base for covert ops 20000 acres 10 years 20 extras.

(OOC: Could you show where exactly your nation is located on a map? >_>)

OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362499 - map in my factbook.

I'll read further into this when I get home. This is definitely not a decline of other requests, I'm just saying I don't have time now. ;)

Encrypted Telegram to Pacitalia

The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia is most interested in establishing a
military base in Pacitalia, although we would be much more interested in buying
the land outright, rather than renting it. If such a deal can be agreed, we would
be interested in a coastal location with provision for the construction of a port
and barracks for 2,000 soldiers.

-snip-

Yes, of course that can be arranged. We would only allow this kind of agreement with trustworthy nations. To buy the land, we estimate it will cost you about two to four times more per acre than to rent. Those are preliminary though.

Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence

OOC: Can you link me to the OMP signup topic?

Telegram to Pacitalia

We would be more than willing to purchase a 35,000 acre plot of land for four
times the original per year asking price, totalling $140,000,000,000 ($140 billion).
However, this land would be considered Praetonian sovereign territory and would
not be subject to Pacitalian laws to any degree. We hope that this will be
acceptable to you.

OOC: Sign up on the forums here: http://s7.invisionfree.com/OMP/index.php?act=idx

We dont actively recruit, just take applications when they find their way to us.

-snip-

Thank you. Your offer has been accepted. We hope our two countries will prosper and fight together for the better of the world.Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence

OOC: CONFIRMED

And thanks for the link :)

Telegram to Pacitalia

We thank you most graciously for accepting our offer. We hope that diplomatic
relations will only go from strength to strength upon the founding of the
Woodstock Pact!

OOC: No problem.

Bump!

The Voltarum is very interested in establishing a naval base inside your borders, as our naval force is considerable and crowding all available Antarctican ports. 30,000 acres should suffice.

In addition, given our new friendship, this base and any ships stationed there may be called upon by your government to defend Pacitalian interests.

Chancellor Xerco Longbottom, Premier of the High Order
Admiral Ja'rod Kathon, Viceroy of the Navy

Official Statement from the Office of the Royal Navy Chief of Staff

When the Royal Armed Forces of Hamptonshrie, through the Royal Navy, first established the current deal that provides us the land that now makes up Maalestren Station we expressed the desire to come to a more permanent agreement regarding the future of the facility. At this time the RAFH wishes to restate our desire to either establish a 99-year lease for the land or to permanently acquire the land.


Fleet Admiral Sir Geoff Kirkssen, KCHE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/hamptonshire/Ernest_King.jpg)
Royal Navy Chief of Staff
Vice Chairman, Joint High Command Council

New Voltarum: Confirmed. 30,000 acres @ $30,000,000,000 USD.

Hamptonshire: As stated before, all the bases in Pacitalia are considered to now be leased for 100 years. However, if you want a permanent one like we have established with the Praetonian armed forces, you may do so. It will cost you the same amount of money as it did Praetonia (for both your bases are 35,000 acres in size) - which will amount to $140,000,000,000 USD.

As well, like Praetonia's base, Pacitalian laws on-base are null and void and that land is of course subject to the laws of the Grand Duchy.

Hamptonshire: As stated before, all the bases in Pacitalia are considered to now be leased for 100 years. However, if you want a permanent one like we have established with the Praetonian armed forces, you may do so. It will cost you the same amount of money as it did Praetonia (for both your bases are 35,000 acres in size) - which will amount to $140,000,000,000 USD.

As well, like Praetonia's base, Pacitalian laws on-base are null and void and that land is of course subject to the laws of the Grand Duchy.

We'll pay $160 billion USD. The extra $20 billion will be for compensation due to sea lane use and ocean floor damage as well as a down payment for possible accidents due to certain items stored at the Station.

We'll pay $160 million USD. The extra $20 million will be for compensation due to sea lane use and ocean floor damage as well as a down payment for possible accidents due to certain items stored at the Station.

We will assume you actually meant $160 billion per year, as lowering your payment offer by almost 90% is pretty much insane. If it is billion, then the deal is accepted and your order will be confirmed when you post.

(OOC: Btw, I added you to MSN about 5 min ago)

We will assume you actually meant $160 billion, as lowering your payment offer by almost 90% is pretty much insane. If it is billion, then the deal is accepted and your order will be confirmed when you post.

(OOC: Btw, I added you to MSN about 5 min ago)

OOC: Yeah, billion.

I'll check up on my MSN tomorrow, for some reason Service Pack 2 destroyed MSN Messanger on this computer.

OOC: Yeah, billion.

I'll check up on my MSN tomorrow, for some reason Service Pack 2 destroyed MSN Messanger on this computer.

OOC: Argh, SP2. It's for the dogs, 'ent it?

Funny story, last Saturday I decline automatic update's request to install that - and clicked the "don't ask me again" checkbox. And just five minutes ago, it asked me again whether it could install. Trying to trick me, I love it.

The Kingdom of Romandeos has a strong economy, and we therefore wish to rent 35 acres of land, and request that a large piece of shoreline be included in this area if we get an approval, preferably with a large bay of some sort, for which we would be willing to pay you extra. We would be willing to employ citizens of your country in the building of base structures and the like, thus putting money into your citizens’ pockets.

In addition, we swear to you that should Romandeos develop a WMD arsenal in the days ahead, these weapons shall neither be tested, developed, nor stored within the rented land.

OOC: JSYK, I am not the NOOB that I appear to be, I assure you.

The Kingdom of Romandeos has a strong economy, and we therefore wish to rent 35 acres of land, and request that a large piece of shoreline be included in this area if we get an approval, preferably with a large bay of some sort, for which we would be willing to pay you extra. We would be willing to employ citizens of your country in the building of base structures and the like, thus putting money into your citizens’ pockets.

In addition, we swear to you that should Romandeos develop a WMD arsenal in the days ahead, these weapons shall neither be tested, developed, nor stored within the rented land.

OOC: JSYK, I am not the NOOB that I appear to be, I assure you.

Confirmed. Thanks for your interest.

Romandeos: 35 acres @ $35,000,000 USD/year - normal lease: 100 years

OOC: And you don't seem to be a newb from the way you post, so it's all good.

Sarzonia would like to purchase 35,000 acres of land for a base to be constructed for us to project our military power more readily where it is required.

Confirmed. And you have personally told me what you want, and have wired the money

Sarzonia: 35,000 acres of land (owned - $140 billion US / year)

Effective immediately, the cost per acre per year is $1.5 million USD. As well, the size limit will be cut by 50% to 17,500 acres. Any nations with bases already set up will not be affected by this change.

The Holy Republic of Hyndu, interested in expanding it's overseas military assets, is prepared to pay 300,000,000 USD/year for a 200 acre costal base. Should this offer be deemed acceptable by the Pacitalian Government, our government also request the ability to employ local contractors in the construction of a refueling station and short airstrip on the property mentioned.

Attached is 3,000,000,000 USD, payment for use of this land for the next 10 years.

You have our thanks.
The People of Hyndu, as represented by Prime Minister Ariel.

Thanks. Order confirmed.

Pretty much. Your contract for $1M/acre is still valid, I'm not going to charge you and the others before the change $1.5M since that's not what your contracts stipulate.

Pretty much. Your contract for $1M/acre is still valid, I'm not going to charge you and the others before the change $1.5M since that's not what your contracts stipulate.

It seems I deleted the post this reply was meant for because I thought it was useless. Heh, kind of silly of me, wouldn't you say?

Telegram from Defence Minister Nuhmi
As one of the OMP to another, we are interested in acquiring a base to expand our military capabilities and improve relations. We are prepared to rent 17,500 acres of land for the cost of 1.5 million per acre per year, and will place a naval and airforce base in the land.

Thank you.

With Honesty,
General Nuhmi

Telegram from Defence Minister Nuhmi

Confirmed. Thanks :)

Romandeos: Don't worry about it.

OOC: I'm planning to build a Navy base in the territory I leased from you, just so you know. If this is a problem, just let me know.

Not at all, as long as you don't use it against Pacitalia or her allies.

Bump

The Second Empire would like to purchase 17,500 acres worth of base for a total of 17.5 billion a year. It will be used as a joint ground/naval base and we will always keep you fully aware of fleet and army sizes in the area.

Comatica is indeed interested in constucting a base in Pacitalia. We wish to purchase 17,250 acres of land for 1.5 million per acre a year. And we request that a stretch of 900 acres be coastal, and build several peirs to harbor our naval ships. Along with ground troops, we would also like to build 7 runways along with several hangars, if you would permit us to build a three-in-one base. We will have near 12,000 ground troops and workers, 35 fighter jets, and 10 naval ships at the base during peace time; the number will vary during war.

Thank you,

Emperor Titus Celmaetus

The Macabees: The total comes to $26,250,000,000. I changed the price to $1.5M/acre.

Comatica: Accepted, terms accepted as well. Total comes to $25,875,000,000. Confirmed upon wire.

I'd also like to note at this point that only five more bases will be accepted.

[OOC: Could a country that already has one build a second one? If so, I'd like to, and make the same arrangement re: owning the land.]

[OOC: Hmm, I dunno. Probably not at this moment, I'd like to give other nations a chance to get bases if they want them.]

The Republic of Skinny87 would like to buy 100 acres for a small military establishment - we believe this comes to $150 million which will be wired to your government immediately. However, if the sum is more then consider it wired as well.

We would like the acres to be on ground level without any mountains or spaces of water in the area.

The Office of The President

We accept the price - all funds will be automatically transmitted yanually.

Macabees: Confirmed. Thanks :)

Skinny87: Confirmed upon wire.

All monetary transactions have been completed, and the annual sum will be transmitted every year for upkeep

Thank you. Expect our first payment to be promptly wired in 3 (NS) days. (Something like 13 minutes in RL time) Also, if you wish, you may construct a base in Comatica.

Our terms are:

The maximum amount of land to be purchased is 20,000 acres.

The price for the acres depends on the location.

There are 3 locations in Comatica you may choose from:

Collekevvi: Wide open expanses with small rivers and streams. Good for an air force base. 1.2 million dollars per acre.

Valdarel: the mountain region of Comatica. Many rocks and where the most plants and trees live in the entire region. Large expanses of tall grass fields. 1.8 million dollars per acre.

Kassval: The lowlands of Comatica. Many rivers, and thousands of harbors. The warmest climate in mainland Comatica. 1.5 million dollars per acre.

We'll take 5,000 acres of land in Collekevvi for an air force, at a price of $6 billion USD; along with a coastal location in Kassval consisting of 5,000 acres, at a price of $7.5 billion USD. As well, a 2,000 acre plot of land in Valdarel would be good as we wish to set up an SAFD tactical command centre and small army base on the site, at a price of $3.6 billion USD.

The total is $17.1 billion USD, to be wired upon confirmation.

Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence



Back to the Pacitalian side of things...

A map of the military bases in Pacitalia has been completed - see it here (http://kfox.gamehorizons.net/Pacitalia/Pacitalia_milibasemap_2005.jpg).

We'll take 5,000 acres of land in Collekevvi for an air force, at a price of $6 billion USD; along with a coastal location in Kassval consisting of 5,000 acres, at a price of $7.5 billion USD. As well, a 2,000 acre plot of land in Valdarel would be good as we wish to set up an SAFD tactical command centre and small army base on the site, at a price of $3.6 billion USD.

The total is $17.1 billion USD, to be wired upon confirmation.

Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence



Back to the Pacitalian side of things...

A map of the military bases in Pacitalia has been completed - see it here (http://kfox.gamehorizons.net/Pacitalia/Pacitalia_milibasemap_2005.jpg).

Confirmed. And thank you again.