Archbishop Sergei Kreshnech begins Evangilist Program
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 20:16
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
I, Archbishop Sergei Kreshnech of Rose, is starting a massive evangilist program. I call on Catholics around the world to join me. I call on Priests to start having more masses. I call on the laymen to go to the streets and proclaim that the Lord God Jesus is the Savior of man. I call on the Bishops to rally the Priests who will rally the laymen! And I call on the Archbishops who will ralley the Bishops, who will rally the Priests, who will rally the laymen! Come Children of God, let us rid the Earth of death and replace it with peace. I call on a mass conversion of the world! Who wishes to join me!
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: A more detailed post coming soon. For now, I need religious posts!))
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 20:29
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DemonLordEnigma
04-12-2004, 20:31
OOC: Hmm. I'm considering.
Also, Sarkarasa is waiting for you to reply to the TG.
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 20:39
uppy
Ra-Horakty
04-12-2004, 20:48
We admire your choice of destination, but not your choice of transportation. Although people of any faith are permitted to visit and live this community, we must consider temporarily suspending those rights for TIOR citizens, for fear of attempted missionary 'visits'.
Grand High Priest of Ra
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 21:06
We admire your choice of destination, but not your choice of transportation. Although people of any faith are permitted to visit and live this community, we must consider temporarily suspending those rights for TIOR citizens, for fear of attempted missionary 'visits'.
Grand High Priest of Ra
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Could we at least try converting them so they can maybe see the light of the Most High Lord Jesus Christ?
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Ra-Horakty
04-12-2004, 21:26
They already see the light; the light of Ra, the teachings of Thoth, the mercy of Osiris, and the goodness of all the Gods. Any 'attempts' to convert to a God that demands misery, on pain of eternal misery, would be most unwelcome.
I have brought the issue before the Council, who will make a decision within the day on whether to allow TIOR passports entry.
Grand High Priest of Ra
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 21:39
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
The light of Ra? Ra is but a pagan god. If you mean misery such as having good morals, then by Ra, strike me down. But seriously. The Rosian Government does not support this, so if you plan to suspend the passports of Rosians in your nations, then contact the Rosian Government. For now, they can't restrict us until you make a negotiation with them. Seriously now, do you think you're dealing with a backwoods fundementalist?
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Ra-Horakty
04-12-2004, 22:04
If passed, the passports of TIOR will be void only on our soil, of course, we have no means -- nor desire -- of doing any more. Quite simply, visitors will be turned away at the airports, and citizens known to be already inside our borders will be given time to vacate.
Our 'morals' exist. If you are found to be evil, you will simply be destroyed at the hands of Ammit. Our Gods are merciful, however. Even non-believers may enter the Tuat, if they have done no harm to others. Despite our beliefs in the 'immoral', our nation is free of crime, and has been at peace for so long the international community became largely unaware of us millennia ago. Strange that your God should reward the heretics in such a way, unless of course, it is our Gods rewarding us.
Religious debate is the work of scholars and theologists, however. The simple fact of the matter is, our long-standing peace shall not be disturbed by distribution of religious material on a verbal or national media level. If the vote goes in our favour, your citizens shall simply be denied access to prevent any possibility of such an event. Missionaries and religious representatives will then be unable to gain access through open or covert means. Any independent trade by our nations businesses and individuals can be continued by cooperation between our respective distribution companies at border points. We have no quarrel with your nation, but we have no desire to be plunged into a Dark Age either.
Grand High Priest of Ra
Neo-Mekanta
04-12-2004, 22:05
"This... Christianity of yours is nothing but a crutch for the weak minded and a false sense of worth for your pathetic race."
"I laugh at you all."
-Lord Kaerek
Master of the Neo-Mekantan Territory in Exile of Earthfall Island
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 22:13
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Eh. Well all they have to do is believe God is their savior. If they have good morals this should be easy. Anyway, I have no time for a theological discussion. Because again, if it does pass you need to contact the Rosian Government. It would only be a few Priests that would come, and if you're going to restrict every Rosian because of a few, that's insane. But it is your nation and I am but a spiritual leader. To Lord Kaerek, pathetic race? I don't see you ruling the spiritual or secular world.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Fascist Confederacy
04-12-2004, 22:16
Though I support you call to proclaim to Our Lord God that you are a disciple of Him and only Him. I find this still, no matter which way you 'split the pie', so to speak, it is merely an unmoral display of popery to try and convert millions into the rather modernly corrupted papists. -- Pastor Ray Redfairm
Ra-Horakty
04-12-2004, 22:20
I am just a religious leader as well. That is why I have put the matter to the Council. Unfortunately, we as a people are reluctant to trust foreign governments due to their typical opinion of our faith, as demonstrated by yourself just now. As such, it seems likely that this act will go through and remain in effect until they are confident that the risk has died down sufficiently. What would be more insane would be allowing the risk of some form of 'covert' missionaries, aiming to take advantage of our trust.
In addition, we may push for the temporary restrictions to be expanded to other nations, or even the small communities of foreign faiths here, should it be found that citizens of other nationalities are acting on your behalf.
Grand High Priest of Ra
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 22:21
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
People like grandeur things, the Popery is a grand thing. You need to make God attractive you know? Besides, I live inside the St. Michael's Cathedral and I barely wear the robes. Plus I gave away all the gold so I think I'm not that Pope...ish.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 22:25
I am just a religious leader as well. That is why I have put the matter to the Council. Unfortunately, we as a people are reluctant to trust foreign governments due to their typical opinion of our faith, as demonstrated by yourself just now. As such, it seems likely that this act will go through and remain in effect until they are confident that the risk has died down sufficiently. What would be more insane would be allowing the risk of some form of 'covert' missionaries, aiming to take advantage of our trust.
In addition, we may push for the temporary restrictions to be expanded to other nations, or even the small communities of foreign faiths here, should it be found that citizens of other nationalities are acting on your behalf.
Grand High Priest of Ra
Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:
I am President Sergei Ilyanov, don't mind my friend. The Rosian Roman Catholic Church has no connection to Commonwealth. I would also like to state that if you are untrustful of the Rosian Government, then we invite you to tour our Commonwealth. I am sure that after you see what I see everyday, you won't have to worry about us. I am informing Sergei Kreshnech not to enter your nation under penalty of law. The last thing I need is an International Incident. So, will you tour the Commonwealth? Maybe we can further relations.
Sergei Ilyanov
President of The Island of Rose
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The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 22:48
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ExCathedra
04-12-2004, 22:49
From the Cardinal of ExCathedra to his Excellency the Archbishop of Rose.
The Roman Catholic Church of ExCathedra sends its greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We would be happy to assist you in spreading the word and in bringing about a renewal of the faith. In our secular world which has given itself over to all things immoral, the light of faith must be shown to all of mankind. In Jesus plan for salvation, He desired that all people come to know Him and see Him for who He truly is - their creator, their saviour and the source of pure love in the world.
We have already begun to educate our population in their faith through Scripture Studies and Fellowship meetings. We have begun the practise of reinstating the Latin mass at our beautiful Cathedral of St. Pierre. What other international evangellical methods of spreading the Word did you have in mind?
Cardinal John DeMarseille
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 22:54
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
I propose something radical, instead of using the standard guilt trip, let's make God look good instead of making him into a firey beast. The Protestants ruined us Christians.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: I'll make a post soon, explaining the reason behind this thread.))
Doomingsland
04-12-2004, 23:00
Communique by Doomingsland Catholic Church
Greetings fellow believer,
It has come to my attention that you are starting an Evangelist program. We would be more than delighted to send missionaries to other lands, but none will be required in my homeland, as the entire population is Catholic. I look forward to preaching the Word of God along side you,
Your's Truley,
Archbishop Marius Gnaeus
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 23:07
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Thank you friend, for joining me in this crusade. Let us teach the people the light of God.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Ra-Horakty
04-12-2004, 23:16
Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:
I am President Sergei Ilyanov, don't mind my friend. The Rosian Roman Catholic Church has no connection to Commonwealth. I would also like to state that if you are untrustful of the Rosian Government, then we invite you to tour our Commonwealth. I am sure that after you see what I see everyday, you won't have to worry about us. I am informing Sergei Kreshnech not to enter your nation under penalty of law. The last thing I need is an International Incident. So, will you tour the Commonwealth? Maybe we can further relations.
Sergei Ilyanov
President of The Island of Rose
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I am he who the people of this community elected to be the earthly representative of the great and wise Horus. As leader of the Council this entire situation has been brought to my attention by the Council members, who are currently discussing whether to ban TIOR citizens from entering our national borders. Such an alarming restriction of rights troubles me, but if the Council members and the Grand High Priest deem it necessary I am inclined to follow their recommendation.
An official visit to your nation may annoy certain Council members, namely the Defence Representative, but I could use it as a legitimate reason to freeze this vote before anything comes of it. If I can bring back sufficient reason for them to vote against the bill then a possible incident may be avoided. I will arrange for such a visit to occur, if it is still an acceptable move. There is a law somewhere which states I must travel with five medjai guards if I leave the country; though it's been lying in disuse for many centuries I will still have to act on it, if only to satisfy the Council members. They will be unarmed, of course, except for bladed weapons if permitted.
I look forward to visiting you, or indeed, leaving the country at all for a short time. Deserts are beautiful places, but you start to lose your appreciation for them when they are all you ever see.
Pharaoh Tuthmosis VII, elected representative of Horus
The Spiritual Community of Ra-Horakty
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ExCathedra
04-12-2004, 23:37
To the Archbishop of TIOR
The 'standard guilt trip', as you put it, is agreably not an effective method of spreading the word, nor is it even Christian in itself. Jesus did not want followers who loved Him out of fear. He wanted people to follow him out of love. He wanted reciprocal love between Him and His disciples. We must not preach of guilt and condemnation, but of love and gratitude for He who gives us all things good. I believe that this message of peace and love is radical in and of itself in our world, but the means of delivery must be well thought out. It must start as an internal event within our own countries before spreading to our regions and then the world. God be with you in your endeavours.
Cardinal DeMarseille
Prelate of the RCC of ExCathedra
The Island of Rose
04-12-2004, 23:56
((OOC: Ro, start a thread about you coming to my nation. And yes you can bring blades.))
Hamptonshire
05-12-2004, 00:06
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Ra-Horakty
05-12-2004, 00:45
((OOC: Ro, start a thread about you coming to my nation. And yes you can bring blades.))
OOC: Done and done. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7625576) Although, I will be going offline shortly, so if I stop posting suddenly don't be surprised.
We denounce these petty bourgeois actions. Evangilist movements are horrible and oppressive that work to undermine the very existance of Socialism. We will not allow any missionaries from this program into our boarders.
The Commissariat of Culture
The Socialist Federation of Hallad
ExCathedra
05-12-2004, 01:20
To the Archbishop of TIOR from the Government of ExCathedra
In reviewing your official statement, some of our top espionage agents have informed us that reading between the lines of this statement might give us reason to believe that there is a possibility of your proposing war on our Protestant brethren. We hope with all our might that these assupmtions are false and that peace is the hoped for end result of your evangelical proposal.
President Charles LaFontaine
The Island of Rose
05-12-2004, 01:25
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Sure, a Church with no soldiers to declare war on the Protestant religions, oh yeah. No of course I want peace. I'm just upset that our Protestant brothers left and even perverted Christianity. Seriously now, a Rosian Catholic attack? You people are mad.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Ottoman Khaif
05-12-2004, 01:32
"I here by Denounce Archbishop Sergei Kreshnech for trying to spead his idea of Christianity to world.I'll give my support to anyone who is against crusader of The Rosian Roman Catholic Church."
Patriarch Bartholomew I of the The Patriarch of Constantinople
OOC some info on the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_of_Constantinople
The Island of Rose
05-12-2004, 01:36
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Oh for goodness's sake. If proclaiming that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior a sin, may I get struck down. Sure there's the extra Catholic technicalities, but as long as they believe in Jesus, it's okay.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: I must be the only Catholic nation left =/ ))
Ottoman Khaif
05-12-2004, 01:42
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Oh for goodness's sake. If proclaiming that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior a sin, may I get struck down. Sure there's the extra Catholic technicalities, but as long as they believe in Jesus, it's okay.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: I must be the only Catholic nation left =/ ))
"Sure, you want to start another Crusades this time against all other churchs who not Catholic.Be warn the Eastern Orthodox churches of the Ottoman Empire will reject your goal of spearding Catholic values in Orthodox lands."
Patriarch Bartholomew I of the The Patriarch of Constantinople
OOC:He is a bit insane and does not really like other churchs moving into his area.
The Island of Rose
05-12-2004, 01:51
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
You're insane, the Crusades?! How the heck am I supposed to wage war with no soldiers? Also, religious wars are the worst wars, they take advantage of God's name for their own gain. So please, do not spew random thoughts without studying the Rosian Church's History.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
Ottoman Khaif
05-12-2004, 01:55
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
You're insane, the Crusades?! How the heck am I supposed to wage war with no soldiers? Also, religious wars are the worst wars, they take advantage of God's name for their own gain. So please, do not spew random thoughts without studying the Rosian Church's History.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
"Sure..that's what they all said....just stay out of Ottoman Empire,keep your missionaries out of my land."
Patriarch Bartholomew I of the The Patriarch of Constantinople
Note:He does not speak for the Ottoman Empire,he just a religious leader.
ExCathedra
05-12-2004, 02:01
To the Archbishop of TIOR
Our apologies for misinterpreting your information. It seems some of my people have become suspicious in their desire for peace. We place our full backing behind you in whatever means you require. Catholic nations must support each other.
President LaFontaine
The Holy Republic of ExCathedra
Doomingsland
05-12-2004, 17:38
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Oh for goodness's sake. If proclaiming that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior a sin, may I get struck down. Sure there's the extra Catholic technicalities, but as long as they believe in Jesus, it's okay.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: I must be the only Catholic nation left =/ ))
OOC:Nope, I'm all Catholic, only I'm a scarier version of Catholic (Ie:BURN THE HERETICS!!!!1111oneone)
The Island of Rose
05-12-2004, 17:58
Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:
Success! Our Evangelists has almost converted the entire Island! Only .3% of the Island needs to be shown the light! This proves to show that material goods do not work on the Island.
Sergei Kreshnech
Archbishop of The Island of Rose
((OOC: I was gonna make a long post of a revival mass, but I'm too lazy.))