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Inside the Ottoman Goverment(Backgound rp and open to OOC comments)

Ottoman Khaif
04-12-2004, 03:26
Many in the Outside world believe that the Sultan ran the Ottoman Empire as it sole power. But this was an understatement; the House of Viziers and the Parliament were working in behind the scenes to make sure that Ottoman Empire will live another day intact. They pass the budgets and voted on issues that needed to be approved. But a new foes had arose in to the East know as Manchu China and another foes to the west, had made the House of Viziers very paranoid of what next is in store of the Ottomans.

During of this meeting the of Viziers this event will reveal what the Ottoman will do to keep their nation from being attack.
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Groups of Viziers know as the Protecters became more active in the policies of the Empire.
They are
Vizier Mehmed Köprülü
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Vizier Muhammad Sharif Pasha Ahmed
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Vizier Mahmoud Sami al-Baroudi Almohad
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Vizier Arabi Pasha Mejid
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Vizier Riyad Pasha Ibrahim
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Vizier Hafez al bin Asad
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Vizier Ahmad Ziwar Pasha bin Saad
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Vizier Mustafa an-Nahhas Pasha bin Umayyad
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Vizier Recep Tayyip Erdoğan al bin Asad
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Vizier Mu'awiyah bin Osman
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Grand Vizier Mehmed Pasa Sokollu opens the meeting of the House, to discuss issues of the empire.
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“This meeting of the House of the Viziers is here by started let us discuss the issues that trouble the State.” Said Grand Vizier Mehmed Pasa Sokollu, the head speaker of the House of Viziers and second in command of the Ottoman Empire.


“We must discuss the grow threats to our very existent by western and eastern imperialist powers, we must act in order to save our people and the states that we have give protectorate ship.”Said Vizier.Yazid III Bin Umayyad

“We cannot trust our eastern foes to completely stand down they waiting for the right opportunity to attacks and the western foes can never be trust they very like the British Empire during the 1800s, they waited for us let our guard down and then take over slower by slower our land. In my view we must attack then, we when see the opportunity will be the shakes for a change and attack back hard.” Said Vizier Salah al Din Yusuf Ibn Ayyub II

“True, we must attack first, when are force to attack. When needed to ..We must not be hawkish for our own good.” Said Vizier. Murad Al Bin Asad

“Great…we can not trust no one have we truly these days, well we have become truly this paranoid…that we preplan attacks on anyone we don’t trust. What as happen to us!” ask Vizier Al-Amin bin Abbasid

“Well the First Russian War, First Soviets Wars, the Soviet-Ottoman Cold War, Then came the Second Soviet War which give us about 4.5 million dead, you bet your ass were insanely paranoid about anyone!” said Vizier Suleiman Al Bashir I(father of the Sultan)

“Trust is a rare asset, that cannot be given away. It is gain over time and can be lost as fast as it is gain. “Said Vizier Ibrahim al Bashir (The Sultan uncle)

“An that is why we know as the paranoid nation of the world, because we been mess over so many times, an fought so many war to maintain our state.” said Vizier Harun al-Rashid Bin Abbasid

“Well that’s the state of our one peaceful and welcomeing nation,we turn into close state, and always fearful of beening attack.”said Vizier Abu Yaqub Bin Almohad

“How can we change our stance in the world, by opening are self to attack by going back the layback state we were before the wars?” ask Vizier Muhammad Fazlollah Zahedi

“Can go back to much wanted normalcy that we so badly want to return to, but we destroy those who always are threaten us by war.” Said Vizier Riyad Pasha Ibrahim

“So your say that we must attack these nation in order for us to return to normalcy! How much blood must we lose to return normalcy!” ask Vizier Ahmad Shah Qajar

“Well one more war won’t do us good, we must find other ways to win peace and return to normalcy.” Said Vizier Asad al Bashir.

“Well can wait for the right time to take out each of our foes to make the world a safely place for us all.” said Vizier Mahmoud Sami al-Baroudi Almohad

“It’s a dog eat dog world, were you must become the fighter or become the become the victim!” said Vizier Arabi Pasha Mejid

“Well, we have to wait for our forces to fully recover and then we will the aggressor to live in this world/”Vizier Mu'awiyah bin Osman

“We can wait for do any new policy in till our forces are completely recover from the blood wars. “Said Vizier Suleiman Al Bashir I

“Yes a new policy that we can agreed a upon.” said Vizier. Murad Al Bin Asad

“Something must done now, we must began working out a new policy for our people to live in this bloody world.” Said Vizier Ahmad Ziwar Pasha bin Saad

“The people of tire of war, so I am. We must show our peaceful tends first.” Said Vizier Asad al Bashir.


“But must show them no peaceful relations, we must have cold relations with the Boers and Hans, we will ban travel to their lands and likewise will ban their people from coming to our land.” Said Vizier Arabi Pasha Mejid

“I like this policy of following cold relations and blocking their people from entering our land, just preventing those Boers and Hans messing with nation. I support this Idea.” said Vizier.Yazid III Bin Umayyad

“You my support this stance of cold relations is the best way to handle these imperialist states of the Boars and Han Empires, they cannot be trust them at all.” said Grand Vizier Mehmed Pasa Sokollu

“I am total agreement we must safeguard our land from any from of attack, from Ideology or to cause internal to change us to favor them!” Said Vizier Salah al Din Yusuf Ibn Ayyub II

“We do anything to prevent the fall of our Beloved Empire, but step short of war.” said Vizier Abu Yaqub Bin Almohad

“Because the people have spoken they want to rest and recover, we are tried of these endless war, its time for peace for land.” said Vizier Al-Amin bin Abbasid

“What cost must we pay for peace,we now hardly trust any one not even our allies,because of these bloody wars..dam it all,we badly need more peace and less war.”said Vizier Harun al-Rashid Bin Abbasid

“Yes but the Hans and the Boars will always be here to toruct us with war..what should be done,we must attack them and return to peace.”said Vizier Mehmed Köprülü

“So you said need to take the path of war to do this, have you no sham. Many have lost their lives to our war. I don’t more to lose their sons to this war. Well give us time to recover from the last three wars” said Vizier Ibrahim al Bashir

next part coming soon

OOC:Please keep any comments in OOC, this is just to show people the inside of the government of Ottoman Khaif.
The Terms Hans and Boars code name for two nations that Ottomans not good relations with
Hans are the Manchus China Empire a foe of the Ottomans
Boars..well who ever guess that right,I’ll give you pat on the back for figureing it out.
Ottoman Khaif
04-12-2004, 21:43
“So you said need to take the path of war to do this, have you no sham. Many have lost their lives to our war. I don’t more to lose their sons to this war. Well give us time to recover from the last three wars” said Vizier Ibrahim al Bashir

“Well should we make a proposal to be voted on this matter of policy toward these nations.” ask Vizier Ahmad Shah Qajar

“Here is the proposal, act one the Boar and Hans Citizens will be ban from entering our nation, also Ottomans citizens will not be allow to travel to these nations. All forms of trade are ban to these nations. Also foreign relations between these will be fairly limited to only maintain cold relations that will remain peaceful at best. Also if find these nations building troop near our border it will look a upon as a act of war by the Government. Therefore war is inevitable to this category of nations. At best we can prolong peace for our own good.” Said Vizier Recep Tayyip Erdoğan al bin Asad

“This is a very hawkish policy. Mostly like yes war is the end result.” said Vizier Hafez al bin Asad

“Sadly this is the stance we must take against this powers.” comment Vizier.Yazid III Bin Umayyad

“We should vote on this proposal of policy toward these nations.” said Vizier Arabi Pasha Mejid

“Now a the vote on the proposal will began those against it vote no, those for it vote yes.” said Grand Vizier Mehmed Pasa Sokollu

All 120 Viziers voted on the matter of the proposal
80 voted for it
40 voted against it

Now with the House of Vizier passing this proposal, now the Parliament will vote on this before it can be pass up to the Sultan for final approve. Even thought the House of Vizier is the upper house of the government, they were the ones who propose this .So both houses of Government must pass the act approve and finally approve from the Sultan on the matter. .

The Parliament was call into meeting to discuss the proposal and to vote on it.

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Well know Parliament Ministers

Praetor Dr.Alexius Petrovic
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Minster Alexander Alexandrovich
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Minster Nicholas Petrovic
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Minster Aamira Al Bashir (The Sultan uncle child)
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Minister Heather Papanadreou
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Ministers Antónios Papandreou II
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Minister Franjo Tudjman
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Minister Mohammed bin Omar
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Minister Alija Izetbegovic
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Minister Fred Sinowatz
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Minister Viktor Klima
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Minster Leila bin Ismail
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Minister Juan Negrín
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Minster Lisa al Aziz Disraeli (Sister to Foreign Minister Dr. Alice al Bin Umayyad)
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Minister Susanna Luchenko
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“The Meeting the of the Parliament is now call in to meeting, to discuss the issues of the Ottoman Empire.” Said Praetor Dr.Alexius Petrovic to start the meeting

A Young newly Elected Minster from Ottoman Kurdistan rose up and said” I proud to said that the Czech Republic and Slovakia have voted to join the Confederation of the Ottoman Empire.”
“Yes, Minster Nechervan Idris Barzani its truly great day for the Confederation, that we can peaceful expand our lands without blood shed.” said Minister Mohammed bin Omar

“Yes it is a great for the passive part of our nation,that we can take over by the means of peace,yet we are still forces to fight for our right to exist.”said Minister Abd al-Muhsin Bey as-Sa'dun

“Let us get into the matter at hand the proposal of cutting all froms of relations betwee the Boars and Hans natiion.Which was pass by the House of Viziers.Its our turn to debate this issue”said Minster Alexander Alexandrovich

“This proposal is in the best inserted of the Empire, we must take these reassertion to safeguards our nation.” said Minster Nicholas Petrovic

“Yes this proposal show that we mean bussiness to these Imperalist States,that we will take any of their theats lightly.”said Minster Abd al-Wahhab Marjan

“This is the same policy we follow on the Soviets Unions, what was the end result? About 4.5 million dead form a very bloody war against them. Do we wish to repeat this again and lose more of our men, I think not “said Minister Susanna Luchenko bitterly

“You are correct the end result will war, but that is the only way to deal with these nations, we seem how they destroy and massacre entire nations, these nations can not be trusted at all, sadly this is only path we can take against these nations.” said Ministers Antónios Papandreou II

“We tried other ways of dealing with these nations they all failed ,this is only way to deal with Imperalist Nations like the Boars and Hans who only want war .”Said Minster Alexander Alexandrovich

“Sadly this is only way to teach them a lesson to learn that intenison of conquest of the Ottomans, will fail and we will crush them!”said Minster Sayyid Abd ar-Rahman al-Haydari

“War is the mostly likely the result of this is war, but we must prolong the cold tensions long enough for our forces to readily to fight them.” said Minister Alija Izetbegovic

“Yes, we must prolong the tensions so that we can be able to take care of these Imperalist nations.”said Minister Hikmat Sulayman

“The Ottoman Empire faced yet again another war against the Imperalist nations,we must show them that will not take anything from them,by passing this act.We show that we mean it.”said Minister Franjo Tudjman

“Soon,we will fight the grand war to end these theats against Empire,this will save our empire from being destory.”said Minister Fred Sinowatz

“I am against another war, but we must stand against these powers and save our nation from death.” said Minister Viktor Klima

“Is not another way to deal with these nations without going to war, must we lose more lives to this up coming war?” ask Minster Lisa al Aziz Disraeli

“No all other opnions have explore and failed.”repy.Minster Alexander Alexandrovich

“The vote on this issue will began, those against this vote no, those for it vote yes.” said Praetor Dr.Alexius Petrovic

All 200 Minister voted on the matter
120 voted yes on the issue
80 voted no on the issue

Now the Sultan must approve the policy and sign it into effect.
Next part coming soon
Ottoman Khaif
05-12-2004, 05:54
Now the Sultan must approve the policy and sign it into effect.

The Sultan had to read the policy; he could sign into effect or strike it down.
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Sultan Suleiman Al Bashir II
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Prime Minister Uthman Bin Bashir
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Prime Minister Uthman Bin Bashir (Head minister of the Parliament) walks into the Sultan office, to find out if the Sultan approve the policy or strike it down.

“Sultan, have you approve the policy or disprove the policy.” ask the Prime Minister

The Sultan was reading the policy and look up, he reply” I approve this policy.”, He pick up his pen, and put signature on the policy, just making it official .

“Good I will report this to the Parliament.” reply the Prime Minister

Note: The Prime Minister not always needed for the meetings of the Parliament, only during times of deadlock, to solve the problem at hand or during major issues that need to be discuss. This policy is not a major issue it’s only a minor issue, so no need of the Prime Minister. Which is very race that the issue is minor.

And that’s how the Ottoman Government works folks!