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This is not Earth Auction yet.
Tell me what you think, what bothers you, and what just isn't clear.

1 Intro
2 Subscribe
3 Bidding
-3.1 Calender
-3.2 Bidding
-3.3 Winner
4 Selling
5 Re-opening
6 RP-ing

1 Intro
The idea is simple and fair: Every country in the world is sold to the highest bidder.
When I talk about country I mean RL country, state (or district) or island(group). No real money is involved in the bidding. You are given a certain amount of credits when you subscribe.

2 Subscription
Subscription is simple. You just announce your NS-nation wishes to enter EarthAuction. Only one NS-nation is allowed to subscribe per player. Violation of this rule will result in losing all your countries and credits.
Once you subscribed your nation is registered and your credits will be calculated by a –yet to define- formula. Info about your credits will be viewable here.

3 Bidding
-3.1 Calendar
The order in which the countries will be sold is preset and viewable here, so everyone can see exactly in which thread and on what date a certain country is up for auction.
-3.2 Bidding
The starting bid will be set by the Auctioneers and be put on the calender. Bidding can simply be done by entering your bid. Every bid must be at least 5% higher than the previous bid. It is not allowed to bid higher than the credits you own.
Bidding on a country adjecent to a country you already won costs you 10% less. (This means you can bid 1.11 times your actual credits.)
-3.3 Winner
After 48 hours, the bidding ends. The country will be rewarded to the highest bidder. His/her bid will be substracted from his/her credits.
If no-one has bid the starting bid (or higher), that country will be placed on the bottom of the calendar and it’s starting bid will be decreased by 15%.

4 Selling
Selling a country to another player is possible at any time if announced to and approved by any Auctioneer. You can also distribute your countries among your puppets. However, this will not be registered.
It is possible to sell any or all of your countries back to EarthAuction. You will get your bid(s) back completely. These countries will be placed on the bottom of the calendar. (Starting bid is previous highest bid.)

5 Re-opening
If you want to, you can re-open any auction. The country will be placed at the bottom of the calendar. Until re-auctioned the country will remain property of the current owner.
When, after 48 hours, the highest bidder is still the owner, the difference will be substracted from his/her credits. If ownership changes, the winner will have to pay 20% more than his/her actual (and the highest) bid. This means the challenger(s) can only bid a maximum of 83% of his/her credits.

6 RP-ing
RPing on EarthAuction, is possible. Annexations, conquests etc have to be registered. The worth of the country(s) obtained by Rping will be substracted from your credits. It is allowed to have negative credits this way.

:) Sounds like a good idea to me

Possibly the rules need a bit of sharpening, cuz most of it is in my mind, so I tend to think it's in your minds too... twisted thinking.

anybody? I beg you (and yet I wonder why)

Meh. It's an okay idea. IMO we already have enough Earths... HP, Earth II, Earth IV being the recognised.

Yes, that is true. But this Earth will be different because besides it being a RP-environment, it's also abut distribution. It'll be interesting to see who gets what countries (This is entirely uninteresting in the other Earths because you can just pick some countries) and what countries are worth the most (and therefor in theory more war-prone, I think).

I'm looking for some players to help with the Auctions.

Because I want multiple Auctions at the same time I think it's wise to have about 2 Threads per 'continent'. N-America, Latin-America, Russia, Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania&Pacific. That's 14 Threads already. Plus 1 Rules and Calendar-thread and possibly a news- and troubleshooter-thread brings me to a total of 16 Threads.

Clearly I can't moderate all 16, all the time. With 7 Moderators (Auctioneers) I will be able to give every mod 1 continent. That would smoothen it up a bit.

Current Auctioneers:
Dimmimar
Sharina
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Another Earth just popped up again. Earth VI... I only recognise 2 Grabstyle Earths, and no more. Then why start another earth? Because Auction Earth is not like these.

Besides, it will not be filled as easy as the other Earths, because everyone has a fair chance of getting a fair piece of land. That means there will only be ONE Auction Earth.

Edit: Does someone has a better name for EarthAuction? One without 'Earth' in it? I don't want people to think this is an Earth (n+1)

It seems I have to personnaly address people to get some reaction...

I'll need lots of people to be in EarthAuction to make it interesting for everybody.

So EarthAuction? This will rescind your status on Earth II, starting another Earth that is.

It's not another Earth.

Earth 2 is ok, but this idea is new, and hopefully improved, fairer, more interesting.

Besides, Earthauction hasn't started yet, but I'm having trouble getting this to the public.

What exactly is EarthAuction then?

You have to buy countries, Auctionstyle.

After some time you can see what countries are the most popular (which were the most expensive) and massive claims will no longer be a problem.

It also takes some tactical skills from the NS-players. What country(s) do you really want to have, how much are you willing to offer. The kind of dillemas you deal with in an actual auction.

But it's still another Earth to RP in?

It's possible, but that's not my primary concern.

It's up to the players to decide if they want to RP on this map. Ofcourse country A can decide to invade country B, no problem imo.

I edited my previous post, have you read that?

The idea of every Earth is to provide a map for RP's. This just takes it one step higher.

Players may subscribe to AuctionEarth even if they're on another Grabstyle-Earth. Problems resulting from an Inter-Earth RP have to be solved by the players. It requires some imagination, but if you lack that, you might as well not RP at all.

Read and write.

I still need some Auctioneers

I'll be an auctioneer. I think that this Earth should be designed to give beginners a template to base their nation on.....

You're hired! (Money will be wired monthly)

bump

I was shocked by Earth VIII. Again, this is no Earth as you all know it.

I'm interested, but don't know that I have the time to be an auctioneer and am still concerned about "inter-earth" RP's. I mean, what if I buy Louisisana here and then try to duke it out with Communist Louisiana? I understand that situations like that can be handled with some ingenuity, but not all people have the ability to do that and I foresee issues in the future with people saying "hey, I bought Brazil at the earth auction, you can't have guys in Rio."

However, the idea is kind of interesting and I'll be curious to see how it goes. I'd certainly like to register as a buyer.

(...)people saying "hey, I bought Brazil at the earth auction, you can't have guys in Rio."
You got a point there. I could say that interearth annexations and/or takeovers will not be recognised. It would encourage people to RP wars against other AuctionEarth-players, without restricting them in having wars with other-Earth-players. It's true, it would complicate matters a bit, but why should one always choose the easiest solution?

The Earths are generaly meant to supply a map for your RPs. If two players agree, they can attack each other even if they're on different Earths. For this example, two players challenge each other and they decide to have a war. Player 1 owns Italy (in EarthAuction), and player 2 happens to own Austria (on another Earth-map). That means they'll have to cope with the Alpes. If player 2 owns Libya, there will be naval battles.
What if they both own Italy, on different Earths? Well, you got yourself a civil war!
Let's say player 2 wins the war and takes over Italy. I won't recognise it, unless player 1 plays fair and sells Italy to player 2.

Ofcourse, if player 2 (including his/her puppets) already owns something on EarthAuction, there's no need for an inter-Earth war, and I shall not allow it.
If it is possible to battle it out on one map, you should.

What do you think?

bump

Bump

I'm game. I'd like to help you out, Dragonryders as either an auctioner or buyer. I'd like to participate in this novel idea.

Sharina, you will be the second Auctioneer. It'll take some time to launch this huge project. I don't know exactly when yet.

Thanks for the support.

Still looking for Auctioneers and opinions.. Although I think the project is being accepted/apreciated by most.

bump

Bump

Shalrirorchia TAG and BUMP

What type of map would this be?

What type of map would this be?

The world map. That's the basic. It will be sold per country. Large countries will be devided into smaller parts. The US will be sold per State (or per 3 states or something like that? give me your view.), because of the large percentage of American players.
Maybe I could do the same with the UK. (good idea?)
Australia will be 7 parts.

Brazil, Russia, Canada, China: how many parts?

Antartica will not be sold for it is no country. Maybe later.

Still looking for Auctioneers. And these questions must be answered:
-Brazil, Russia, Canada, China: how many parts? UK also devided?
-Should USA be sold per state or per 2 or 3 states? (or even more?)

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Still looking for Auctioneers. And these questions must be answered:
-Brazil, Russia, Canada, China: how many parts? UK also devided?
-Should USA be sold per state or per 2 or 3 states? (or even more?)

Brazil should remain as one country, but should cost a buttload of money and only be affordable to a huge (1 billion+ population) country. Russia, Candada and China should be in 2 parts each. The UK should stay as one country, but Ireland should be a separate country. The USA should be auctioned off a single state at a time with the value of the states adjusted up or down depending on geographic size, location and possibly RL population numbers (i.e. Idaho wouldn't cost that much, California would be rather expensive, Louisiana with access to the gulf and the Mississippi River would be on the high middle end of prices). The small islands (Marshall, Marianas, Polynesia, etc. in the south pacific should go as a single group or no more than say 3 groups, they are small and scattered. Australia should stay as one country, but Tasmania should go separately from Australia.

Just my $0.02.

bump, anyone else thinking the same?

Russia should definitely be more parts than just two. Five at least.

Also, I don't think Australia shouldn't be sold as a whole. Mainland should be at least 2 parts.

bump feel free to reply, everyone!

Bump

bump, first I need more Auctioneers.

I'm considering launching it in a week or so, maybe 2.

b-b-b-bump?

If no-one has anything to add...
It'll be next week...

Friday, I'd say.

Calendar will be made in 3 days.
Also the creditcalculation-formula will be discussed.
Maybe we'll also start setting the opening-bids for some countries.

These steps mean that the EartAuction-project (no new name yet.. :( ) has actually begun. Until then, please share your opinion here!

Auctioneers still wanted, and a new name for the project.

Only a couple of days left...

bump

This Thread keeps falling like a brick. Is there really no-one interested? I'll need a lot of bidders and some more Auctioneers, but so far I can count bidders + Auctioneers on one hand.

Then again, I've never seen a brick fall so fast...

Tomorrow....

It'll be tomorrow already.... that's soon.

TODAY - Official Launch of Project. Threads will be produced later today.

I'm about to set this thing up (In about an hour)

There will be a Subscription thread, and a Calendar thread. These will stay when the bidding begins.

A Discussion thread including StartingCredits-calculation-discussion and opening-bid-setting (this thread will no longer exist after all opening bids and calculations are set.)

Subscription, Rules and Calendar will be one thread

Threads are created. Nobody shows up though.
Subscription IS open!

Right here you can SUBSCRIBE: EarthAuction MAIN (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=382224)