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OCC: The Macabees requested that I type up this Post as he is Presently Busy with World @ War RP’s.

This Morning The Macabees Announced his Retirement from the Alliance RWC, as Certain Issues have Arrived Lately. As such The Macabees is standing down from his OCC and IC Situations Ageist AMF and NATO. As such He is now a Neutral Nation. Under the Protection of NWO.

Dr_Twist, The Macabees will Reply to this Thread Shortly.

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IDF applauds Macabee's decision here and hopes we can firm up relations with a nation we once had good relations with before the NATO-RWC rivalry.

We approach Macabees not as a NATO member, but as a nation that wishes to forget the silly days of the dumb rivalry. We would like to start with an exchange of embassies and trade agreements.

President Kenny Williams.

We confirm this... all ties have been broken.

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OOC: *makes note* "Called it"

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

We are investigating the attack upon our fleet, which we are almost certain came from some nation in the RWC. Our intelligence has also noted strange mobilizations from RWC nations, all flocking to the borders of The Macabees within the past 72 hours. The Macabees themselves can be seen mobilizing vast numbers of ground forces and a large contingent of their naval units. Judging from their formations over the last 48 hours, it is our conclusion that the apology issued by The Macabee government is totally bunk.

We believe that The Macabee government knew full well of their sub's movement and is now attempting to save their own skin. We ask that the NWO cooperate fully with Automagfreek authority and NOT interfere, because this matter happened before The Macabees withdrew from the RWC and is none of the NWO's business.

Automagfreek herby demands that The Macabees stand down and surrender to Automagfreek authority, and perhaps I may shine an ounce of mercy upon them. The Macabees has shown that they are fully prepared for a long term engagement, and this tells us the attack on our fleet was no accident. The Macabees has 72 hours to comply. We will issue our demands shortly, and we ask the NWO cooperate fully.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

To The NWO, RWC, and All Others Whom It May Concern

We, the government and people of The Greifan Empire, do reaffirm our support for Lord Dreadfire in this matter, and echo his request for cooperation from the nations of the New World Order. An international crime has been commited against our ally, and those responsible must be brought to justice. We feel that this futile attempt to withdraw quietly from the situation, like a thief in the night, as it were, only serves to incriminate the government of Macabees further. We therefore draw the conclusion that, were the NWO to stand in the way of Lord Dreadfire's inquirey into this matter, or whatever punishment would be delt to Macabees thereof, they would be doing nothing more or less than shielding international criminals from due and fair punishment. We should hope that the NWO recognizes the situation for what it is, and considers wisely before standing between Macabees and the firm hand of justice. Such is our stance on the matter. May it be weighed carefully by all those involved in this most unfortunate sequence of events.

End Transmission

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TO: Lord Damien
FROM: President Maybury
RE: Macabees Issue

Your comment, "Automagfreek herby demands that The Macabees stand down and surrender to Automagfreek authority", makes us rather interested. By that, do you mean investigation, or outright surrender to the AMF?

If it is a basic investigation, that is one thing, but if it is actual surrender, I am sorry, but this will not be allowed, as there is not an ounce of proof, but rather a little bit of speculation.

We request you to clarify what you mean by surrnder to Automagfreek authority.

Thank you.

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Apparantly the obvious proof I presented is not enough for you. Fear not, I know all those words must be hard on the eyes, it's ok.

We have tracked the movements of RWC and Macabee fleets, and they are set in a defensive position to directly oppose any AMF fleet that comes near their territorial waters. If they are innocent, why are they fully mobilized?

We also have an apology from out of nowhere from The Macabee government. This caught us by surprise, because mere moments after the intruding sub was destroyed, we get an apology. It is obvious that the Macabee government knew damn well it was wrong to order that sub into our waters, and now they are backpeddling.

As far as my statement of compliance from The Macabees goes, the degree in which I handle this situation is directly effected by how many of you want to interfere. An open act of war against the Excessively Armed Empire would normally result in a declaration of 'total war' on our part. I pray that outside parties stay out of this mess so we all can avoid a gruesome slaughter of The Macabees.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

TO: Lord Damien
FROM: President Maybury
RE: Macabees Issue

You still have not answered President Maybury's question. Is it just an investigation? If so, I seen no problem with it. But if it is a complete surrender to you, we do have a problem.

Why do we have a problem with it? Here's why: You have not presented any hard facts that prove that The Macabees have indeed attacked you. Who is to say they aren't preparing for war with someone other than AMF? Yes, an apology out of nowhere is strange, but unless he stated he is apologizing for an attack on you, that is not actual proof. It sounds a lot like speculation to me.

Please, do answer President Maybury's answer. If it is an investigation, then we are talking about the above for no reason, and ViZion has no problem with this. However, if it is the complete surrender of the Macabees, my points are quite valid.

In all actuality ally ViZion, it is quite obvious to myself, and others of The Macabees intentions towards AMF. With the recent events that have unfolded I do not doubt that AMF's allegations are correct. You sit here and argue that AMF has no proof, yet you have nothing to prove that The Macabees did nothing, except for his own word. AMF has a point in saying that if The Macabees is indeed innocent of these attacks, then why is he fully mobilized? I am not trying to instigate a conflict here, merely trying to point out that both sides have investigations to make.

Lord Dreadfire does not 'answer' to anybody. There is specific evidence linking the attacking sub to The Macabee government, and proof of their attack can further be seen in their response to their sub being destroyed. The Macabees knew they were wrong for attacking, hence why they have taken the recent steps that they have taken. Having raised the wreckage of the craft, we have seen significant damage to not only the entire sub, but the crew as well. Multiple bullet holes in crew members, evidence of fires where there were no explosions, and no remaining maps or documents tells us that this was an ordered suicide mission.

Withdrawing from the RWC, NATO's #1 enemy at the moment, issuing an apology mere moments after their sub is sunk, and mobilizing not only their allies, but their own armed forces and staging them in such a manner that they would stand in the direct path of the Crimmond reinforcements that came under fire.

If the ViZion government is too ignorant to put 2 and 2 together, then that is not our problem. If ViZion is concerned about AMF's actions towards The Macabees, then I can say that it has no right to. No course of action has been decided save for that The Macabees stand down and face justice for their crime against the Excessively Armed Empire.

That is all.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Lord Dreadfire does not 'answer' to anybody. There is specific evidence linking the attacking sub to The Macabee government, and proof of their attack can further be seen in their response to their sub being destroyed. The Macabees knew they were wrong for attacking, hence why they have taken the recent steps that they have taken. Having raised the wreckage of the craft, we have seen significant damage to not only the entire sub, but the crew as well. Multiple bullet holes in crew members, evidence of fires where there were no explosions, and no remaining maps or documents tells us that this was an ordered suicide mission.

Withdrawing from the RWC, NATO's #1 enemy at the moment, issuing an apology mere moments after their sub is sunk, and mobilizing not only their allies, but their own armed forces and staging them in such a manner that they would stand in the direct path of the Crimmond reinforcements that came under fire.

If the ViZion government is too ignorant to put 2 and 2 together, then that is not our problem. If ViZion is concerned about AMF's actions towards The Macabees, then I can say that it has no right to. No course of action has been decided save for that The Macabees stand down and face justice for their crime against the Excessively Armed Empire.

That is all.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Well well well, you know where you can shove your threats Hartman, and take your lord with you while your at it.

As long as you don't provide evidence that this submarine was orderd by the Macabee goverment to attack your supply fleet our troops will resist any invasion. The Macabee goverment had already given out warnings that there was a rogue submarine on the loose and you decided to ignore that. Furthermore, if the reinforcements where headed for Crimmond, why would the Macabees attack when such a move was totaly unwanted by them?

Conclusion, AMF sees this as a excuse to attack and we will not stand for it, even though our ally is no longer in the RWC, we will still defend and protect him.

Alfarius Damocales,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Defence.

OCC: AMF this move we done after i talked to The Macabees, We were aware that what was presently Happening would Lead to war so what Happened was The Macabees was Requested to Leave RWC and become a Passive Nation for some time, This was to help Bring the Present Situation to a End and help Destabilize RWC.

As such about the Sinking of the Ships we Would request an investigation, However we believe some form of Payment would be preferred because The Macabess wants to become a more Passive Nation and leave the Hard life of Nation States behind, We believe this along is a good Offer to Have on the Table and hope AMF agrees to the Offer at hand.

OOC: The Macabees has just realised that he's going to be crushed by AMF and now he's desperately trying to save his skin. It's pathetic. Nothing more.

OOC: The Macabees has just realised that he's going to be crushed by AMF and now he's desperately trying to save his skin. It's pathetic. Nothing more.

ooc: Indeed.

ooc: Indeed.

OCC: There is more to this then Meets the Eye, AMF knows what I am referring to here and why this has happened.

OCC: There is more to this then Meets the Eye, AMF knows what I am referring to here and why this has happened.

ooc: Oh? Do share...

*Conspiracy Theory Tag*

OOC: Yes, Twist do share... :)

Tag

*Conspiracy Theory Tag*

OOC: Yes, Twist do share... :)
ooc: Twist is just attempting to steal my job of conspiracy theories..... So who wants an actual war of Maca vs AMF?

OOC: The Macabees has just realised that he's going to be crushed by AMF and now he's desperately trying to save his skin. It's pathetic. Nothing more.

OoC: Same can be said of you, saving your ass before NATO is rolled over. ;)

OOC: LOL. I doubt that will happen, and it's not why I quit.

OCC: I wont say what’s going on, but AMF knows and certain people know what’s going on, and this is in Reference to that Certain thing.

OCC: I wont say what’s going on, but AMF knows and certain people know what’s going on, and this is in Reference to that Certain thing.

OOC: Does a dance, I actually have a fairly good idea of what it is... but you know... I like conspiracy theories... they're funny :D

Aust is sad to see the department of our former allie and macabees and is currently moving all of our forces stationed to protect Macbees back to Aust. We are afraid that in doing this Macbees has shot themselves in the foot so to say and has left it'self almost defencless in the face of AMF's onslaught.

Sould MAcbees rejoin, and we hope he will, then Aust shall again protect that nation. However until then all we can do is hope that MAcbees will survive

Well well well, you know where you can shove your threats Hartman, and take your lord with you while your at it.

As long as you don't provide evidence that this submarine was orderd by the Macabee goverment to attack your supply fleet our troops will resist any invasion. The Macabee goverment had already given out warnings that there was a rogue submarine on the loose and you decided to ignore that. Furthermore, if the reinforcements where headed for Crimmond, why would the Macabees attack when such a move was totaly unwanted by them?

Conclusion, AMF sees this as a excuse to attack and we will not stand for it, even though our ally is no longer in the RWC, we will still defend and protect him.

Alfarius Damocales,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Defence.

Who the hell is this upstart? Hartman asked to his personal assistant with a scoff. After a quick profile search, his assistant responded with a chuckle. Appears to be in the RWC. Nothing else is turning up. Hartman laughed out loud with his assistant and quickly wiped away a tear that formed in his eye. Good one! So, we have another piss ant nation who happens to be in the Right Wing Circlejerk. When are these people going to lear?

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Better watch your tongue little one, lest you lose it. Do not speak to me in that manner, at least learn to use the grown up voice first, ok junior?

We have stated our evidence and it seems that the international community agrees with us that the actions taken by The Macabess show proof positive how guilty and afraid they are. It is no concern to me what the RWC thinks, because it is obvious that you will support The Macabees no matter what the scenario

AMF will do as it sees fit in this situation, and whatever decision Lord Dreadfire is gracious enough to make will be non-negotiable. We have wiped nations from the face of the earth and destroyed entire alliances for lesser matters, and it is my personal opinion that The Destroyer has every right to do what he pleases. An open act of war such as this does not sit well with the Excessively Armed Empire, and we are not going to stand by idely and do nothing, believe that.

As far as you and the Right Wing Circlejerk are concerned, you prats need to stop for a second and realize just what you are getting yourselves into. We have grown quite sick of your pissing, moaning, and blatent warmongering. AMF does NOT engge any nation without being engaged first, and we most certainly were. Those troops were indeed headed for Crimmond.

He pulls out a map with several lines drwn on it. One was a blue line going from Automagfreek to Crimmond.

This was the course that our fleets was on. Their destination: Crimmond.

Drawn ontop of the blue line was a green line, marking the distance the fleet had covered. In an entirely different direction was a red line, headed towards The Macabees.

This red line represents the course our fleet would have to had taken to get to The Macabees. As you can see, our fleets were clearly on course and headed towards Crimmond. Not once did they change course nor were they showing signs of changing course. We also have documents available to the public proving this.

The rules here are real simple: Macabees bit off way fucking more than they could ever chew, and now they are going to pay the price. What that price is has yet to be determined. Keep sticking your nose in my business little one, and the punishment we hand down to The Macabees will be worse. So to put it in simplest terms possible so that your painfully underdeveloped brain can understand, you and the Right Wing Circlejerk can fuck off.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

His Majesties Government regards the pathetic show of force by Automagfreek as a small way of compensating for the nations lack of common sense. The poor move by Automagfreek inside a sea completely alien to them is a fool hardy mistake. Attacking a nation and an alliance which dominates a particular region is a grave error, one that we are glad to see that the overbearing dictatorship has made. Pictures in the British press have been most revealing about the public opinion of Lord Dreadfire one in particular was most humorous for his majesty as he opened up the middle of The Times

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His Majesties Government formally requests iron clad proof of the Macabees attack, or we will support our ally to the end. We are confident that it will not be our end no. Probability is in our favour for victory after all, we only have to face the simple run at them tactics and lets hope they will die of Automagfreek, nor will we buckle under the poor and uncreative insults of the nations spokesmen. No we will defeat them in a way they are not accustomed to. We will fight back.

Who the hell is this upstart? Hartman asked to his personal assistant with a scoff. After a quick profile search, his assistant responded with a chuckle. Appears to be in the RWC. Nothing else is turning up. Hartman laughed out loud with his assistant and quickly wiped away a tear that formed in his eye. Good one! So, we have another piss ant nation who happens to be in the Right Wing Circlejerk. When are these people going to lear?

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Better watch your tongue little one, lest you lose it. Do not speak to me in that manner, at least learn to use the grown up voice first, ok junior?

We have stated our evidence and it seems that the international community agrees with us that the actions taken by The Macabess show proof positive how guilty and afraid they are. It is no concern to me what the RWC thinks, because it is obvious that you will support The Macabees no matter what the scenario

AMF will do as it sees fit in this situation, and whatever decision Lord Dreadfire is gracious enough to make will be non-negotiable. We have wiped nations from the face of the earth and destroyed entire alliances for lesser matters, and it is my personal opinion that The Destroyer has every right to do what he pleases. An open act of war such as this does not sit well with the Excessively Armed Empire, and we are not going to stand by idely and do nothing, believe that.

As far as you and the Right Wing Circlejerk are concerned, you prats need to stop for a second and realize just what you are getting yourselves into. We have grown quite sick of your pissing, moaning, and blatent warmongering. AMF does NOT engge any nation without being engaged first, and we most certainly were. Those troops were indeed headed for Crimmond.

He pulls out a map with several lines drwn on it. One was a blue line going from Automagfreek to Crimmond.

This was the course that our fleets was on. Their destination: Crimmond.

Drawn ontop of the blue line was a green line, marking the distance the fleet had covered. In an entirely different direction was a red line, headed towards The Macabees.

This red line represents the course our fleet would have to had taken to get to The Macabees. As you can see, our fleets were clearly on course and headed towards Crimmond. Not once did they change course nor were they showing signs of changing course. We also have documents available to the public proving this.

The rules here are real simple: Macabees bit off way fucking more than they could ever chew, and now they are going to pay the price. What that price is has yet to be determined. Keep sticking your nose in my business little one, and the punishment we hand down to The Macabees will be worse. So to put it in simplest terms possible so that your painfully underdeveloped brain can understand, you and the Right Wing Circlejerk can fuck off.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

As to be expected Hartman, but then again, this is the normal AMF reponse isn't it? Our troops in the Macabees are ready, and we will defend our ally in case of attack, no matter the odds or how desperate the situation is.

That and Hartman, don't insult me I'm afraid I'm just a tad older then you. Lets say, four-hundred years or so.

Alfarius Damocales,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Defence.

His Majesties Government regards the pathetic show of force by Automagfreek as a small way of compensating for the nations lack of common sense. The poor move by Automagfreek inside a sea completely alien to them is a fool hardy mistake. Attacking a nation and an alliance which dominates a particular region is a grave error, one that we are glad to see that the overbearing dictatorship has made. Pictures in the British press have been most revealing about the public opinion of Lord Dreadfire one in particular was most humorous for his majesty as he opened up the middle of The Times

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His Majesties Government formally requests iron clad proof of the Macabees attack, or we will support our ally to the end. We are confident that it will not be our end no. Probability is in our favour for victory after all, we only have to face the simple run at them tactics and lets hope they will die of Automagfreek, nor will we buckle under the poor and uncreative insults of the nations spokesmen. No we will defeat them in a way they are not accustomed to. We will fight back.

I am not even going to dignify you with a formal response, for your entire nation will soon be non existant thanks to the Reavers of Pantera. You have more than enough shit in your mouth right now, why you'd heap on more is beyond me.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

As to be expected Hartman, but then again, this is the normal AMF reponse isn't it? Our troops in the Macabees are ready, and we will defend our ally in case of attack, no matter the odds or how desperate the situation is.

That and Hartman, don't insult me I'm afraid I'm just a tad older then you. Lets say, four-hundred years or so.

Alfarius Damocales,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Defence.

Your words are like the buzzing of flies to us.

Yes, this is normal AMF response when we are directly assulted, and it should not come as any surprise to you. It does not matter to us in the slightest just how involved you really are, for the end result will be the same no matter what: AMF will stand victorious.

Your efforts against us are in vain, little one.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Your words are like the buzzing of flies to us.

Yes, this is normal AMF response when we are directly assulted, and it should not come as any surprise to you. It does not matter to us in the slightest just how involved you really are, for the end result will be the same no matter what: AMF will stand victorious.

Your efforts against us are in vain, little one.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Seeing as your so determined, bring it on. We'll be waiting.

Field Marshall Talas, DAF commander for the Macabees.

OoC: This should be fun seeing as I've had no major war RP's in around 3 months.

To The Nations of The RWC(j) And Their Brood

We, the people of Presgreif and her Dominions, would very much like to dedicate the following exerpt from a brilliant song by a certain famous artist to all of you, dear friends.

You're just jealous of me cause you/
You just can't do what I do/
So instead of just admitting it/
You walk around and say all kinds of really mean things/
About me cause your a meanie (a meanie)/
But its only cause you're really jealous of me/
Cause I'm what you wanna be/
So you just look like an idiot/
When you say these mean things cause its so easy to see/
You're really just a big weenie (big weenie).

Thank you so much for your attention.

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To The Nations of The RWC(j) And Their Brood

We, the people of Presgreif and her Dominions, would very much like to dedicate the following exerpt from the brilliant song by a certain famous artist to all of you, dear friends.

You're just jealous of me cause you/
You just can't do what I do/
So instead of just admitting it/
You walk around and say all kinds of really mean things/
About me cause your a meanie (a meanie)/
But its only cause you're really jealous of me/
Cause I'm what you wanna be/
So you just look like an idiot/
When you say these mean things cause its so easy to see/
You're really just a big weenie (big weenie).

Thank you so much for your attention.

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OoC: :D Damn, thats a good one, don't worry though we'll get Sino to start a thread with NATO bashing jokes(one of our first projects actualy)

OoC: :D Damn, thats a good one, don't worry though we'll get Sino to start a thread with NATO bashing jokes(one of our first projects actualy)

ooc: I'm not a member of NATO, go ahead. :D

ooc: I'm not a member of NATO, go ahead. :D

OoC: Ah right, should have checked our "who to kill list" before I said that, apolagies.

Just move along, nothing to see here. :D

OOC: I still have to read page 3...official response when I get home..however. "get crushed by AMF"...I dont think so... it's the 9048 3948 nations helping AMF.

General Transmission to all concerned

The Ineffable Empire will stand by the nation of Automagfreek. The Macabees will be made to pay for their cowardly attack, and in fact the pitiful, dishonourable manner in which they try to save themselves enrages us even more.
Those who attempt to defend them shall be slain and left to rot where they fall. The carrion birds shall once again know feasting as the enemies of Metus try to hide from our wrath.

Though we have withdrawn support of the MAcbees we warn Automagfreek that any attack on our allie Dumpsterdam will be treated with the contempt it deserves.

The RWC is not what you seem to balive it is, indeed we would stand a tough test for NATO if you should attack us. We do not wish for war, yet you seem to want to tar us with that brush, just as your tar us with the all Nazis brush as well.

Any attack upon ANY of our allies wil be met with force.

Emporer Palpatine the 4th.

It is with great sadness that due to the intelligence provided by AMF that we must recind our offer to Macabees. Anything done to them was brought on to them by their government.

While IDF will not participate in a strike against AMF, we will send more ships around the AMF coast to back up the Atlantic and Kerguellen fleets in their mission to make sure no one counter-attacks AMF or makes a strike of any kind.

Any act of war committed against the IDF fleet will bring great sorrow and despair to the who ever attakcs us.

Secretary of State Ted Phillips.

President Anderson is appalled by what he sees as AMF's bullying tactics towards other small nations. This has been brought to our attention by several sources, and we wish that the following be known to the International community


If the nation of Automagfreek should engage in any attack that the USIH believes is unwarranted or purely aggressive in nature, we will not hesitate in aiding the nation(s) that are at risk from this highly unstable powerbase.

President Anderson also feels that it is appropriate to mention that this is not an NWO statement, but one on behalf of the USIH on her own in order to counter increasingly bullish tactics of AMF after the set backs that appear to be besetting his pet alliance.


Secretary of State Tom Adler, on behalf of the President.

President Anderson is appalled by what he sees as AMF's bullying tactics towards other small nations. This has been brought to our attention by several sources, and we wish that the following be known to the International community


If the nation of Automagfreek should engage in any attack that the USIH believes is unwarranted or purely aggressive in nature, we will not hesitate in aiding the nation(s) that are at risk from this highly unstable powerbase.

President Anderson also feels that it is appropriate to mention that this is not an NWO statement, but one on behalf of the USIH on her own in order to counter increasingly bullish tactics of AMF after the set backs that appear to be besetting his pet alliance.


Secretary of State Tom Adler, on behalf of the President.

OOC: *smacks forehead*

Sorry, I just have to comment on this OOCly. Mac is just about my size, so the whole 'OMFG LOLZ AMF IZ B34T1NG UP ON T3H $M477ER N4TUNZ!!!' shit needs to stop now.

Second, I think some of you are forgetting here that Mac attacked ME first. Unless you're just RPing your leaders as total idiots.......

OOC: *smacks forehead*

Sorry, I just have to comment on this OOCly. Mac is just about my size, so the whole 'OMFG LOLZ AMF IZ B34T1NG UP ON T3H $M477ER N4TUNZ!!!' shit needs to stop now.

Second, I think some of you are forgetting here that Mac attacked ME first. Unless you're just RPing your leaders as total idiots.......

OOC: Im not talking about Mac. Im talking about Dumpsterdam and the others that ive seen you brush aside in this thread and others. And from what i gather Mac's attack didnt actually do anything, and so its only symbolystic. You will however note that we state unwarranted or overtly aggressive!
P.S my leaders are not idiots, yours appear to be the only ones atm :P

EDIT: I dont want to get into an OOC war over this, its just my policy. I like living life on the edge.

OOC: Im not talking about Mac. Im talking about Dumpsterdam and the others that ive seen you brush aside in this thread and others.
P.S my leaders are not idiots, yours appear to be the only ones atm :P

OOC: If you read more carefully, Dumpsterdam is getting on AMF's case for trying to handle Mac, which ICly Dumpsterdam has no right to do. Hence why AMF is taking the steps it is.

LOL...yeah, my leaders are the idiots. I guess them getting pissed about being attacked for no reason then being cursed and shunned when they try to do something is idiotic....

OOC: Perhaps idiots was the wrong word. However it was percieved as a threat to Dumpsterdam and with NATO falling apart (in broad terms) several nations are worried that it might try and go aggressive in order to stem the flow. Obviously steps have to be taken to stop this and a firm hand was judged to be necessary.

But enough OOC I have clogged this thread for too long.

OoC: Just relax guys, this is not worth an OoC fight. I am looking forward to an excelent RP where both sides have contributed. Win or loss, it doesn't matter to me since this is just a game. I'm here to tell a story, not to win, if I wanted to win I'd attack AMF right now, get hammerd and live in my mother basement for the next 28 years because of the dissapointment.

Oh and as for the bullying, I'm bringing this down on myself remember IH? I defend my allies against anyone, and if its AMF, then fine by me.(it gives me a chance to duke it out with him, what more could I want?)

OCC: AMF this move we done after i talked to The Macabees, We were aware that what was presently Happening would Lead to war so what Happened was The Macabees was Requested to Leave RWC and become a Passive Nation for some time, This was to help Bring the Present Situation to a End and help Destabilize RWC.

As such about the Sinking of the Ships we Would request an investigation, However we believe some form of Payment would be preferred because The Macabess wants to become a more Passive Nation and leave the Hard life of Nation States behind, We believe this along is a good Offer to Have on the Table and hope AMF agrees to the Offer at hand.

My favorite part of your post their Doc was "help destabilize RWC", well that there just told me all I needed to know.

OOC:
I'm not going to get in an argument, this is just to establish the facts and clear up AMF's case a little bit so we have a general reference here. AMF, if there are any errors, I'll edit them.

We all know that over 1 month ago, a rogue submarine sunk AMF ships. in a different thread. Now a week ago we had another case where a submarine that was rogue attacked AMF ships. In both cases they were Macabee's subs. The fact that rogue subs were out there was not disclosed until after they had done their damage and were killed by AMF. It appears that this was ass covering by Macabees. If he were truly innocent he would've warned the world and helped AMF by giving him intel to kill it before he got harmed.

AMF raised the sub responsible for the most recent attack. Some of the crew had been killed. It appears to him that this was an organized effort where the officers killed the crew so no one could talk about the planned attack.

The RWC mobilized at this time which made it appear to AMF that this was the beginning of a war. The most recent decision to leave the RWC and have NWO protection also appears to be ass covering and an acknowledgement of guilt and a showing of fear.

ooc: I'm wondering why so many of you are putting all this effort into covering Macabees' ass when he won't even speak for himself. He's hiding behind you all right now, and if it does come to armed conflict, you will be the ones suffering casualties, not him. Does this make sense? It seems like some people here just have a hardon for trying to discredit AMF by questioning his IC reactions to recent events. That's fine. But ask yourselves this: how much sense does it make ICly for a nation to start shit under one alliance, and then leave and have their asses covered by another, completely different alliance? To both the NWO and RWC I say this: if you want to start shit with Metus, then do it. Bring it right the fuck on. If you don't have the balls, then step off. Whatever you do, stop whining like a bunch of scared little bitches. Its irritating.

ooc: I'm wondering why so many of you are putting all this effort into covering Macabees' ass when he won't even speak for himself. He's hiding behind you all right now, and if it does come to armed conflict, you will be the ones suffering casualties, not him. Does this make sense? It seems like some people here just have a hardon for trying to discredit AMF by questioning his IC reactions to recent events. That's fine. But ask yourselves this: how much sense does it make ICly for a nation to start shit under one alliance, and then leave and have their asses covered by another, completely different alliance? To both the NWO and RWC I say this: if you want to start shit with Metus, then do it. Bring it right the fuck on. If you don't have the balls, then step off. Whatever you do, stop whining like a bunch of scared little bitches. Its irritating.

OCC: There is a lot more then what meets the eye in this Thread, There is a lot of OCC information floating around atm, AMF knows what’s going and has reacted in response to such. Give this time people and you will know what is going on.

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Telegram from Vladimir Zhirinovsky

The RBA will not aid in this conflict. Members in the RBA may choose so, but RF is not going to waste good soldiers over a personal dispute between NATO and RWC. I prefer to watch both factions burn to the ground rather than get my hands dirty. RF will react if any RBA member is threatened however. Both RWC and NATO are fools as far as im concerned. The NWO should not even get involved in this conflict.

Maybe some think i am not looking into the long term of this issue, but i assure you that we'll be ready for anything. This is no more than a clash of imperialistic powers who continue to prey on the their peoples and see them as merely resources, more than free proletariats. I demand that all people in these nations to rise up in a revolution against your imperialistic oppressors and bring socialism to your society. Do not die for your hierachy, die for a better living.

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Telegram from Vladimir Zhirinovsky

The RBA will not aid in this conflict. Members in the RBA may choose so, but RF is not going to waste good soldiers over a personal dispute between NATO and RWC. I prefer to watch both factions burn to the ground rather than get my hands dirty. RF will react if any RBA member is threatened however. Both RWC and NATO are fools as far as im concerned. The NWO should not even get involved in this conflict.

Maybe some think i am not looking into the long term of this issue, but i assure you that we'll be ready for anything. This is no more than a clash of imperialistic powers who continue to prey on the their peoples and see them as merely resources, more than free proletariats. I demand that all people in these nations to rise up in a revolution against your imperialistic oppressors and bring socialism to your society. Do not die for your hierachy, die for a better living.

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OCC: This Thread is basically Worthless, This was to start with a way to get The Macabees to stand down, but it has moved on from there and he Refuses to Stand down still.

As Such NWO has pulled Support on any level from RWC and will no longer be Linked to the Alliance on any Level. RWC is a Threat to the Free World More then what NATO ever was. RWC is just an Imperialistic Power with no home.

[Dumpsterdam, I must question your sanity. No offense or anything, but you couldn't carry my luggage and you want to take AMF on? I don't know what you have against AMF, but it's gone to your head.]

OCC: This Thread is basically Worthless, This was to start with a way to get The Macabees to stand down, but it has moved on from there and he Refuses to Stand down still.

As Such NWO has pulled Support on any level from RWC and will no longer be Linked to the Alliance on any Level. RWC is a Threat to the Free World More then what NATO ever was. RWC is just an Imperialistic Power with no home.

ooc: Well, I must say that this seems to me to be the only wise course of action. I applaude this decision, if not in my own interest, then at least in the name of reason.

While I stand behind AMF, I am staying out of this conflictm except to provide any form of aid to AMF. If however, it comes to it, I will mobilise my troops and round up my ALSN allies and come to his defense.

An official Statement from the RWC:

'The Macabees has cut all ties with us, his problems with AMF are therefore, not our concern.
Yes, some of our nations mobilized forces. So what? It is not the task of the RWC leaders to command the troops of its members, we leave that to the governments.
If any RWC members want to aid The Macabees, they can ... Without official RWC support.'

[Dumpsterdam, I must question your sanity. No offense or anything, but you couldn't carry my luggage and you want to take AMF on? I don't know what you have against AMF, but it's gone to your head.]

OoC: Size does not always matter SS, remember that.

An official Statement from the RWC:

'The Macabees has cut all ties with us, his problems with AMF are therefore, not our concern.
Yes, some of our nations mobilized forces. So what? It is not the task of the RWC leaders to command the troops of its members, we leave that to the governments.
If any RWC members want to aid The Macabees, they can ... Without official RWC support.'

Natalya read the message from Vollmeria and could only come up with one word do describe it. "Dumb" she exhaled.

Attention Vollmeria

I have recently read your latest transmission and must say that it is quite possibly the most ludicrous thing I have ever had the misfortune of being exposed to. This is the first instance I have ever been privy to where an international organization refuses to take responsibility for its individual members. I would imagine that if an outside force performed an act of aggression upon any member nation of the RWC, all its members would very quickly spring at the opportunity to fullfill their obligations and crush the lone defender. Why then is it that when a member of your organization performs an act of war on an outside nation, you deny to have any collective responsibility for their actions? Suddenly, the world is full of rouge submarines and rouge nations who have nothing to do with the nations and alliances they belong to. How very pathetic. You are all a bunch of sniveling coniving cowards, and your organization is a joke. We shall be more than pleased to crush you like the dispicable writhing maggots you truly are. Fuck you very much, you nancies.

End Transmission

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Natalya read the message from Vollmeria and could only come up with one word do describe it. "Dumb" she exhaled.

Attention Vollmeria

I have recently read your latest transmission and must say that it is quite possibly the most ludicrous thing I have ever had the misfortune of being exposed to. This is the first instance I have ever been privy to where an international organization refuses to take responsibility for its individual members. I would imagine that if an outside force performed an act of aggression upon any member nation of the RWC, all its members would very quickly spring at the opportunity to fullfill their obligations and crush the lone defender. Why then is it that when a member of your organization performs an act of war on an outside nation, you deny to have any collective responsibility for their actions? Suddenly, the world is full of rouge submarines and rouge nations who have nothing to do with the nations and alliances they belong to. How very pathetic. You are all a bunch of sniveling coniving cowards, and your organization is a joke. We shall be more than pleased to crush you like the dispicable writhing maggots you truly are. Fuck you very much, you nancies.

End Transmission

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Duniash, Imperial Palace, Emperor's quarters

Vespasius grinned from ear to ear as he read the message and signalled for his aide. "What do we know of her?" His aide, Smith, shrugged and he casualy looked through a few files on his PDA. "Big mouth, no actions to back it up. Nothing to worry about." Vespasius closed his eyes and laughed. "Tsk, mark them for being a bunch of loud mouths, and file it under AMF lapdogs/Vastiva clones.

"As you wish sir, as you wish." Smith smiled too, he coudn't help himself if he saw Vespasius smile and he made off to update the database.

ooc: Vastiva clones, huh? I don't see how I have anything at all to do with Vastiva. Also, its hard to be a clone of a nation which was founded several months after yours. As for "AMF lapdog", AMF and I just got off a year long vendetta against one another. I think I'll file you under "ignorant tit/arrogant fool". And must you really quote the whole post in order to respond to it? :rolleyes:

OoC: Yup, Vastiva is like the first line of defence, using all kinds of OoC tactics and bigmouth IC tactics to butcher the opponent off before they even get firing weapons at each other. And yet again, that was an IC response and Vespasius finds that most nations following or helping AMF are just that, lapdogs, where there is more fear of their master then of their enemy.

But I could be persuaded to file you under Realy, realy anoying nations.

PS: Yes I do, love the pic. :D

OOC: As for "AMF lapdog"

OOC: Clearly they know little of your background and your ties... from what little I've seen (and so far I'm liking some of what I'm seeing which I'm keeping note of for the NDA) you're one of the more respectable members of GDODAD and you are likely to be the type of person who backs up their words.

Needless to say I shall watch with interest. Though I'm sure Iuthia will have it's own comments soon enough.

OOC: Clearly they know little of your background and your ties... from what little I've seen (and so far I'm liking some of what I'm seeing which I'm keeping note of for the NDA) you're one of the more respectable members of GDODAD and you are likely to be the type of person who backs up their words.

Needless to say I shall watch with interest. Though I'm sure Iuthia will have it's own comments soon enough.

ooc (blushes)Thank you very much for the kind words, I am truly honored. :)

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Intel Scan – cycle 90801
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Synopsis:

Rouge submarine attacked AMF coast. Apparently, AMF forces managed to identify submarine belonging to nation known as The Macabees. AMF demands Macabees to stand down for investigation. Related scans: prominent members leave NATO. Various other alliance shifts.

Action: confirm FKC states alliance affiliations. Continue low scale monitoring.
Priority: Medium-low
Full report: 2 hours

After taking into concideration the evidence which Lord Dreadfire has put forth and the actions which the The Macabees has taken after the incident in question we have to admit that it looks rather bad for them.

While we haven't seen any proof with undeniably proves their guilt in the matter, we do feel that their actions combined with the remains of the submarine give the impression of guilt and the actions of the Right Wing Collective only further support this. In fact the "diplomacy" coming from Dumpsterdam itself is certainly not helping to convince us of their inocence.

In anycase after looking at the available information we would suggest to the Macabees that they explain themselves as soon as possible lest their silence be concidered further "proof" of guilt.

Automagfreek has, in our opinion, every right to be angered at such a situation and while proof may be needed to convince other nations, it certainly isn't needed for Automagfreek to declare war and little we could do could stop them assuming we wanted to. Someone has injured Automagfreek and given their history we can't see how anyone is surprised at this reaction, we feel they have shown restraint concidering the evidence they already have, they have gone to war on less in the past.

In anycase we again, encourage the Macabees to explain themselves quickly before this comes to a blood end. You can be certain we won't look down upon Automagfreek for resolving this how they see fit so long as they try not to damage too much of the populace.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Natalya read the message from Vollmeria and could only come up with one word do describe it. "Dumb" she exhaled.

Attention Vollmeria

I have recently read your latest transmission and must say that it is quite possibly the most ludicrous thing I have ever had the misfortune of being exposed to. This is the first instance I have ever been privy to where an international organization refuses to take responsibility for its individual members. I would imagine that if an outside force performed an act of aggression upon any member nation of the RWC, all its members would very quickly spring at the opportunity to fullfill their obligations and crush the lone defender. Why then is it that when a member of your organization performs an act of war on an outside nation, you deny to have any collective responsibility for their actions? Suddenly, the world is full of rouge submarines and rouge nations who have nothing to do with the nations and alliances they belong to. How very pathetic. You are all a bunch of sniveling coniving cowards, and your organization is a joke. We shall be more than pleased to crush you like the dispicable writhing maggots you truly are. Fuck you very much, you nancies.

End Transmission

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'We will indeed protect an RWC member if they are attacked but this case is different. We refuse to take responsibility for the acts if a nation that left us, if you wish to go after them then we shall not stop you.
All RWC nations have been told to stand down in this matter, any RWC nation that continues its mobilization to aid The Macabees will do so without our support.'
As an RWC leader i'm trying to do what is best for my alliance, but if you really wish to continue your hostile behaviour against RWC, i say Res non verba.
Let it be known that we, the RWC as alliance are not and never were involved in this matter, if you persist on involving our alliance i will make it an RWC matter.'

Vollmerian Ministry of foreign affairs

Note: Yes i must quote your entire post, i like working on my opponents nerves.

Wrong account, should have been Vollmeria.
Anyway, a good opportunity for:
Assur is an ancient god of war, its followers are the Assyrrians. You know, the guys with the first cavalry in history. A soldier can be an Assyrian or a Templar.
Nation was originally created for RP-purposes, much like AMFs Dark vengeace, never used because at its creation NS was infested by Terrorists like Terrorist 'you can see me, you cant kill me' alliance. Anyone interested to obtain it? Only requirement is that you take good care of it.

Shessara sends salutations to the AMF government.

Official Statement from Maelgad Braedd Laeryn:

The Macabees is a pathetic, puling tribe that merely wants to run away from its battles. Shessara offers military supplies and support to AMF.

Let it be known that we, the RWC as alliance are not and never were involved in this matter, if you persist on involving our alliance i will make it an RWC matter.'

I imagine that clarification is welcome, though you may want to tell your members that seeing as they are the ones supporting The Macabees... this is not a matter of Automagfreek threatening your alliance, more a matter of your alliance members protecting a nation which has been linked to an attack against Automagfreek.

Would you defend your members even if they go against the RWC's decision not to get involved in the matter?

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps