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The fleet is off the Sep Appa coast at an position approximately 500 miles away from the Demmahom district. The tasks force in the fleet(4 taskforces per fleet based around a carrier) are in tight spherical defensive formations to allow for the most coverage of CIWS systems on incoming attacks. ASW choppers are establishing a sonar buoy perimeter at a perimeter 50 miles out from the fleet.

Carriers are increasing the amount of planes in the air to 25% of the naval fighters with the fleet which is 192 fighters(Half F-40 Vampire a carrier launched version of the F-22 with some upgrades, and F-42 Tiger Sharks which the Belem version of the JSF fighter.)

The rest of the aircraft are being prepped to begin offensive operations.

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The minute the deadline passed the fleet sprung into action. The carriers begun launching another 25% of there aircraft preparing to perform attack runs on Sel Appa positions.

the Arsenal ships and numerous cruisers and frigates begin the launching over 1500 tomahawk missiles over the course of 40 minutes.

500 are targetted against Sel Appa early warning systems and AA systems as well as key military air fields.
250 are targetted against military C&C centers.
50 are targetted against key rail and road junctions
200 are targetted against important infastructure targets including dams, powerplants, radio and tv broadcasting stations, sewage and water purification plants.
500 are targetted against the Sel Appa capitol city.
50 of which are directed at government buildings
250 are targetted within your industrial section.
50 are targetted against Hospitals
The remaining are indiscriminately targetted into your most heavily populated residential area.

OOC: Because you are attacking a FT nation, I do not consider your rules about FT nations to be valid anymore. However, I will leave it up to Sel Appa if they wish my help.

ooc: hes not a future tech nation just because you said he is and gave him 1 piece of technology that he cant even use.

-OOC-
His(?) classification as an FT nation or not based on that technology is really up to him.

ICly I have no reason to be here yet, unless I invoke the "Randonmess (sic) Trait" of my Underpact (Modern) forces.

ooc: hes not a future tech nation just because you said he is and gave him 1 piece of technology that he cant even use.

OOC: If he chooses not to accept the technology, he's not and your rules apply. If he chooses to, he is. It is as Neo-Makanta said.

OOC: TAG, and Belem you really fired over -350 Tomahawks at civilians?

there part of the infastructure to a well run war machine.

bump

Belem, I hope you show greater respect for civilian life in this situation than you have in the past.

Half of Nianacio's deployment of ten carrier groups stopped 350 miles away from that of Belem, but the other made a broad turn around the Belemese fleet and stopped 350 miles away on the other side. They would keep the actions of the Belemese ships under close surveillance, waiting as a harimauda pepasa poised for a strike.

OOC: Info on my ships will be posted as required.
"Harimauda pepasa" means "tiger free", but it's not the words that are important, but where they are from -- Nianacio's motto.
Nianacio's ABM system will automatically attempt to launch any ICBM or SLBM launches. Unless you launch a very huge number of missiles, it can probably destroy every one.
If you don't want to invite me (even though I deployed forces a while ago), my guys for whatever reason will find no reason to get involved. (I followed the link from the other thread and didn't read the title before posting, sorry!)

Not a good post, but I wanted to quickly get something in before I got off the computer just in case...

Belem, you seem to be confusing the horrible FT RPers like Seph, with the extraordinary RPers like Mekanta (I won't say myself because I'm modest) of the ESUS, and DLE is even close to joining. I don't know if he will, but he is a great RPer too. You are just scared that you will have your ass kicked, and will actually lose one of your religious vendettas. I will be making my personal reccomendation to Sel Appa, that if any of his allies against a much larger foe are disallowed, that he should ignore you, and continue with this RP.
Besides, I excist in 140 years from 2004, and my modern tech past self excists at the moment, but they are currently hiding from mankind under the surface of the moon.

ooc:if you you were to use a modern tech force that exists on earth I would accept that as a resonible RP accepting the duality of having 2 versions of a nation existing at once.
But I dont accept distant future nations nor do I accept nations that arent based on Earth.


and Nianacio your allowed in, im just curious did you officially declare war as of yet?

also how many ships are in each carrier group?

Belem, I hope you show greater respect for civilian life in this situation than you have in the past.

Half of Nianacio's deployment of ten carrier groups stopped 350 miles away from that of Belem, but the other made a broad turn around the Belemese fleet and stopped 350 miles away on the other side. They would keep the actions of the Belemese ships under close surveillance, waiting as a harimauda pepasa poised for a strike.

OOC: Info on my ships will be posted as required.
"Harimauda pepasa" means "tiger free", but it's not the words that are important, but where they are from -- Nianacio's motto.
Nianacio's ABM system will automatically attempt to launch any ICBM or SLBM launches. Unless you launch a very huge number of missiles, it can probably destroy every one.
If you don't want to invite me (even though I deployed forces a while ago), my guys for whatever reason will find no reason to get involved. (I followed the link from the other thread and didn't read the title before posting, sorry!)

Not a good post, but I wanted to quickly get something in before I got off the computer just in case...

IC: Following the deployment of the Nianacio fleet the fighter wings reroute most of there fighters as a buffer between the Nianacio fleet and the Belem fleet. With 100 fighters in between each fleet.

OOC: more coming soon.

OOC: heres rest of the above post. I couldnt finish it before because class was ending.

IC: The fleet begins rerouting the fighters that were supposed to be used against Sel Appa forces and moving them into defensive positions between the Imperial fleets and the Nianacio fleet increasing the numbers to 150 between each force.

The two fleets begin to seperate one heading Northwest and the other head southeast to keep them from being bunched as one large target but still allowing for a support pocket(this is assuming that your fleets are to the west and east.)

The rest of the fighter wings aboard the ships begin to launch bringing the operational number of aircraft in the air to 320 fighters and and 12 AWACs monitoring radar and radio for any Nianacio or Sel Appa moves.

Secret Ic: 4 EMP satelites are being thrust into position over Sel Appa.

Transmission to Nianacio fleet: Attention Nianacio forces you are interfering in an official Imperial Naval Action against the nation of Sel Appa. The Admirality advises you as of this time to keep all your forces atleast 200 miles away from Belem assets at all time, should any of your forces enter within 200 miles of Belem forces they will be deemed a threat to the Imperial Navy and wil be dealt with. There shall be only one warning for any violations.

Creating a sizeable force in such a short amount of time would defiantaly be a godmod. not to mention training the pilots. And I have no puppets at the moment, as they are all in other wars. A bit about my style of war, that Im sure anyone who's fought with me knows, I dont use orbital bombardment. I hate such tactics, as they are a cheap, easy way to win. I use fighters, and since they are not atmospheric fighters, coming from orbiting carriers, they are slower.
I will fight in this war, but I will not stoop to godmodding to do it.

Im ignoring your attacks my rule stands if the persons home is off the Earth I wont RP with them at all esspically in a war since I always target peoples industrial base.

you could just create a modern tech force they could just be your future tech force morphed into a modern tech force for the RP and morphed back again once its done.

it goes bump

Belem, you seem to be confusing the horrible FT RPers like Seph, with the extraordinary RPers like Mekanta (I won't say myself because I'm modest) of the ESUS, and DLE is even close to joining. I don't know if he will, but he is a great RPer too. You are just scared that you will have your ass kicked, and will actually lose one of your religious vendettas. I will be making my personal reccomendation to Sel Appa, that if any of his allies against a much larger foe are disallowed, that he should ignore you, and continue with this RP.
Besides, I excist in 140 years from 2004, and my modern tech past self excists at the moment, but they are currently hiding from mankind under the surface of the moon.


OOC:
I myself have just been wandering through the forums when I stumbled on this thread...I was in International Incidents looking for a laugh. Im glad to see that after damn near two years Belem is still upto his old tricks! One would find it sad to think that after such a long period of time, ones rping skills have not improved one bit. Anyhow, Im just posting to say that, as a Martian nation, Auman has absolutely no respect for ESUS and that I have never heard of DLE.

Belem, start writing actual rp's and stop counting beans buddy!

Belem, can I help you attack Sel Appa? Also, Is there anything in it for us if we help you?

OOC:
I myself have just been wandering through the forums when I stumbled on this thread...I was in International Incidents looking for a laugh. Im glad to see that after damn near two years Belem is still upto his old tricks! One would find it sad to think that after such a long period of time, ones rping skills have not improved one bit. Anyhow, Im just posting to say that, as a Martian nation, Auman has absolutely no respect for ESUS and that I have never heard of DLE.

Belem, start writing actual rp's and stop counting beans buddy!

OOC: I used to be known as Sarkaraset and Sarkaraseta. I quit for awhile because of frustrations with trying to get on the forums, and returned recently. I've recently been trying to establish myself once more, this time with a bit of a different style and a new nation. I've also goone back and done a few historical rewrites of those nations to fit the new feel.

-OOC-
Fortunately, I always leave openings in my plotlines for these things to happen. Don't worry about the non-Humans. They won't get involved. At all. They're just the force behind the scenes. Just have to have the IC justification for getting involved thrown into the mix. It's been long enough since the destruction of the Neo-Mekantan Worldfleet for some remainants to form this group. Especially given how much Mekantans like enslaving Humans. ^_^

Kind of long, but I'm introducing a whole new freakin' nation here. Gimme a break! LoL


-IC-
-The Neo-Mekantan Territory in Exile of Earthfall Island

Kaerek snarled as he stormed into the town, grabbing a passing Terran by the throat and lifting the full grown Human male into the air effortlessly. "YOU! Terran!" The Neo-Mekantan commander barked, his accent altering the words in the Human's language slightly. "I have of information there is of trouble here!"

The people on this pathetic chunk of land were used to the Mekantan's stumbling over the grammar and sentance structure of English by now, and everyone was afraid to correct him by now but they should have known by now that Kaerek demanded immediate clear answers. Something this man was having trouble giving. "M..M...M...M...Master Kaerek... Your men..."

"What of them!?"

"I happened to them..." A deep insidious voice hissed from inside a building. Before Kaerek could react, something struck the inside of building with incredible force, shattering the wall and sending rubble flying everywhere. "Fleet Commander Kaerek, once of the Neo-Mekantan Sol Fleet made in preparation for an assault on Mekanta's Earth Base. It truely is an honor to meet you..." The voice didn't bother masking its sarcasm as a large creature stepped through, covered in rough brown biological(?) armor. Easily twenty feet tall, the creature tranfixed the Mekantan and Human with a glare from its single blue "eye" glowing violently on what appeared to be its head.

"<Of identity, to speak!>" Kaerek barked in Mekantan, forgetting to use English.

He was visibly surprised when the creature responded in his language. "<I, of Goddess Minagoroshi to serve! Of you of Minagoroshi to serve. Of which to refuse, to DIE painfully.>"

"<To kill me now.>"

The creature just gave a look that made it seem to smile wickedly. "I have other plans for you, Kaerek... It is always so entertaining to break one such as you. I assure you, you will serve Minagoroshi. One way or another..."

All the Mekantan felt was something stab him in the back of the neck, then darkness...


Kaerek's eyes opened to see Hive Master Xerenth standing over him, "looking" down at him. He paused a moment, wondering how he knew the creature's name, before he was compelled to stand.

"You live... Good. Your mental capacity is also unaffected. Be very thankful to the Queen for her progress in awakening. That is all that saved you life... Your Human generals have all been Implanted just as you have. You see now I spoke the truth..."

Kaerek felt the back of his head, the warm wetness of his blood making it through the jolt of pain. Something was inside his head. Something foreign.

"You will serve Minagoroshi, Kaerek. I have just ensured that."

"... Of what to be wanting..?"

"There is a nation of this pathetic rock. A nation that may be a strong ally in my plans for this planet in the future... You will assist them, with the primative military of this land."

"Do it yourself!"

Xerenth picked the Mekantan up in one claw, bringing him closer to the large glowing blue node taking up most of its head. The Zircon Hive Master analyzed light through the surface of its body, but the node held more advanced senses. It also served as strong intimidation now that the Neo-Mekantan knew that the nodes were were the powerful Zircon Beam was charged and emitted. "You know quite well The Pact prevents my direct interference. Thus, you will do my bidding..." Kaerek began to feel warm before a blinding pain that cut off his other senses filled his mind, not hearing his own piercing shriek of agony until the pain died to a dull throb that left him feeling exhausted, ill, and disoriented. He could hear Xerenth laughing at him as he shook the Mekantan back to his senses. "... Or you will suffer... Do you understand, Kaerek? You are incapable of disobeying my orders, but just in case, Worm..."

Kaerek just nodded weakly, collapsing when the Zircon dropped him. He waited until the massive creature stomped away before pulling himself up into a sitting position. "... Yes... I understand fully..." He hissed, standing. Preparations begun the moment he recovered enough. The fleets would move immediately.


-OOC-
Fleet numbers come soon. Fleets take time to prepare, y'know. Can't just have them magically appear off the coast of a nation. Not if you want to be a good RPer. ^_^

Future Tech you can get away with it a bit more because of FTL. Not here. ^_^

Message to Belemese fleet
The Nianaciana forces will for now respect the 'safety zones' around the Belemese forces, but this may end at any moment, depending on the actions you take. We ask you to think carefully before acting.
Officers aboard the Nianaciana ships were stunned at the movement of the Belemese fleet. This was an intelligent decision, but that was exactly what made it so surprising -- all previous naval engagements had involved tightly packed hordes of enemy ships. Merely saturating the enemy missile defense systems would no longer work. The Nianaciana ships were set on maximum non-combat alert, with special consideration to detection of any hostilities and ability of rapid movement in the case of an attack or attempt by the Belemese fleet to trap the Nianacianoj. The fleet must not become trapped.

OOC:Nianacio your allowed inThanks. I was hoping my mistake wouldn't attract a lot of negative attention.
im just curious did you officially declare war as of yet?No, and I might not...We'll see.
also how many ships are in each carrier group?I think I had figured it at one carrier, two cruisers, four destroyers, two subs, and two support ships. It should probably be a bit smaller considering my carriers aren't as large as is typical, but I'll keep it at that for now.

Nothing much for me to do until I intervene...I'm not sure when that will happen. Nianacio only enters conflict to prevent harm of civilians or to ensure a nation remains free, and a few missiles launched into a city doesn't seem to be quite enough reason to enter a war...

ooc: Neo what side are you on?

IC: Most of the planes between the Nianacian fleet and the Imperial Fleet break off there patrol of the waters between the fleets and head back to standard operations in preparations of the invasion of Sel Appa leaving only 60 fighters for each Nianacian fleet.

-OOC-
Good question. One very deserving of an answer.

But I'd prefer to keep it a secret for now. It'll make it a bigger surprise when I act. ^_^

Can I please fight them, Belem? However, If I fight them, Is there anything in it for me? :mp5: ;)

ooc: sure you can help. and that all depends on the peace deal thats designed in the end.

Cool! Sel Appans are jerks, They even banned Christianity! :eek: Freedom for Anvorbuod!!! I am sending a fleet with 1,000 missles to shoot at them. That is half of all the missles in my army, and don't forget about ground troops, guns, Planes, and if absolutely last resortly necessary, Nukes! :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

ooc: dont godmod.

Frisbee Freaks,

We regret that, if deemed necessary, we will respond in kind to any nuclear assault on Sel Appa.

Sincerely,
Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

With the closeness of its formation, the Belemese fleet was easy for the Slaytaniccans to spot. Changing course abrubtly, the IL-76s skirted wide round the fleet and headed inland.

"Sel Appa? Military aid from Slaytanicca, requesting landing. ETA twenty minutes.."

The two Slaytaniccan fleets bearing marines was still lamentably far away. One carrier had been on patrol some two thousand miles from Slaytanicca, and was tipped to get to Sel Appa in two days. The other fleet, bearing troops and Hellbolt ABMs, was significantly further away. Slaytaniccan media slammed it as a token gesture, one which would never be of use to the people of Sel Appa...

Since Sel has refused to accept any attack on his country this RP is off and Sel officially destroyed(ignored) as per official Belem history his country will be considered conquered and his population exterminated and enslaved.

Since Sel has refused to accept any attack on his country this RP is off and Sel officially destroyed(ignored) as per official Belem history his country will be considered conquered and his population exterminated and enslaved.

If you wish to godmod like that, then under my official history I'll put your people down as exterminated to the last man, woman, and child in the conflict afterwards and your nation used for testing new weapons.

Just accept it as a case of a war that never happened.

sure you can ignore me if you want. your choice. Im just saying what im doing since he chose to ignore a legal conflict.

Oh, well...
his population exterminated and enslaved.Both?

I am dissapointed in Belem in this matter. His entire code of conduct is, if there is someone who may be able to defeat him, he ignores them. Thats fine with me, ignore away. But this war never happened, only a blockade. Therefor, your history, unless you want it to be critically flawed, says that the attack on Sel Appa failed, and you recalled your ships. Sel Appa's laws were not changed, and history moves on.

Oh, well...
Both?

well those who weren't killed outright were enslaved and then killed/died at a later date.

I am dissapointed in Belem in this matter. His entire code of conduct is, if there is someone who may be able to defeat him, he ignores them. Thats fine with me, ignore away. But this war never happened, only a blockade. Therefor, your history, unless you want it to be critically flawed, says that the attack on Sel Appa failed, and you recalled your ships. Sel Appa's laws were not changed, and history moves on.

Actually the history I put in place for ignore for the reason he doesn't exist anymore(to me) is one of the possible results of the war. Of course it is a more extreme result that would of beeen unlikely but of course possible. So since there was no RP and shall be no further RPs with Sel it would be required for him to be completely removed from the world in which Belem inhabits meaning he was destroyed(as an IC idea) and ignored(as the OOC means)

Frisbee Freaks,

We regret that, if deemed necessary, we will respond in kind to any nuclear assault on Sel Appa.

Sincerely,
Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

I was just saying if they tried to nuke me!

The Frisbee Freak Air Carrier, HailFrisbeesorelse, hovered over the Sel Appan landscape. It released 100 jet fighteres, The pride of the Freak air force to deliver their payload, 1000 missles, 10 for each fighter, and released them to target Sel Appa's industries, rail, roads, communication lines, population centers, the capitol, Television and Radio stations, mlitary bases, air bases, naval bases, and even the palace.

wars over. Sel refused to accept any attacks.

What's that supposed to mean? Great! now I have to call my troops back!

it means he is ignoring the war saying it can't happen.

D'oh! what a jerk!

Official Response from the House of Earls:

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Belem your are the biggest noob i have seen to date ((besides sephiroth))
If you say you killed Sel popluation and enslaved them then didnt that defeat the whole purpose of the war?? To make people free?? You sir are a noob and a very bad example of a Christian.

ok zack thats my way of ignoring. Since I find it quite stupid that you can just ignore a nation and say it no longer exists. So I RP an ignore as I conquered the nation and killed everyone. If we actually had an RP I would of just switched out the government, taken cash to repay for my costs and taken home all the fine art within the country and would of left.

Actually, you don't have to pretend they don't exist. You can just not deal with them. Ever.

It's like how often Switzerland and Brazil really talk with each other. They don't.

But I was dealing with them in a war environment and the way my nation is I would not just walk away during war time I would continue to push ahead till victory or a good peace deal.

There's something called "revisionist history" for a reason. You can just say this war, and the threats between you and Sel Appa, never happened.

push ahead till victory or a good peace deal.

Pfftttt... I've got to admit, it's funny you say that now because if your country was really prepared to have any kind of peace deal you would have been more reasonable and conducted diplomacy (threats aren't really diplomacy) instead, however your actions pretty much fucked up their own thread by pretty much just starting a war on a small nation over a really minor issue and not being prepared to understand that they don't want to RP a war.

You could of course claim to have defeated a nation you ignored, though it would be like me claiming to have once won a war against Madeupland. I tell you it was a gruelling battle all along and we completely pwned them... of course, because the war didn't actually happen we didn't loose any men, damage our economy or otherwise take any losses whatsoever associated with having a war over something so petty and shit.

I assume you also don't really understand that this is freeform and there is no such thing as a "legal" war, given that anyone can ignore a war for any reason in the same way you can conduct a war however you like and ignore space tech. If you want to make sure you aren't ignored, try organising it for a change.

Actually I would encouter for a thousand or two troops in casualities at about an Iraqi war level for the the auto conquest.

oh about the diplomacy thing issuing an Ultimatum is basically heavy handed diplomacy. It works sometimes, sometimes it doesnt and I have to attack and ussually the first attack is enough to negioate peace.