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TX-14 Attack Helicopter (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/wz-10_pic2.jpg)
TX-14 pic2 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/wz10_pic3.jpg)
TX-14 pic3 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/WZ-10_CG.jpg)

Crew: 2 pilots

Armor: 2" titanium armor

Weapons: 4 pylons with 4 points for Hellfire/ATAS/Chaff Pod mounts, 1 center plyon for 1/2 ton bomb, & 25mm mounted in turret

x1 25mm Turret gun
x2 Rocket Pods- 15 Hellfire missiles each pod
x2 15 ATAS missiles- Carried Overwing
x1 1/2 Ton Bomb on underbelly "OPTIONAL"
*To fire weapons use the helmet eye screen, replaced it with the trigger on joystick*
Helmet Eye Weapon Screen (http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/SMALL/GPN-2000-001550.jpg)


Counter Measures:
x2 Chaff pods on wings
Ejection Seats


Engine:
(1) PD T7000-XX-402
(8) Composite Rotor Blades

Speed: 170 MPH
Service Celing: 20,000 feet
Range:700 miles
Length: 55 feet
Height: 16feet
Width: 26 feet
Rotor Diameter: 50 feet

Sensors:
AN/APAS FLIR System in nose
AN/COD Nightvision/Lowlight Vision Array in nose
AN/TNA Terrain-Avoidance radar

Price: 35 million

OOC: first time on a design concept, comments welcome

TX-14 Attack Helicopter (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/wz-10_pic2.jpg)

Crew: 2 pilots

Armor: 2" titanium armor

Weapons:
x1 50. caliber
8 Air to Ground/Heat Guided Missles
8 Air to Air/Heat Guided Missles
x1 2 Ton Bomb on underbelly
*To fire weapons use the helmet eye screen, replaced it with the trigger on joystick* Helmet Eye Weapon Screen (http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/SMALL/GPN-2000-001550.jpg)


Counter Measures:
x2 Chaff pods on wings
Ejection Seats
ITR Invicibilty technology(keeps helicopter invincible to radar for 5 hr)

Price: 200 million

OOC: first time on a design concept, comments welcome

The crew is fine, but if you truly want a high-tech copter, make it one.

Titanium armor is good, if not expensive, and protects form shocks. You may need to modify the armor with a "capsule" system.

The weaponry does not make sense. Depending on hardpoint numbers one coulkd easily make that craft carry over 100 air to ground missiles. Each rocket pod on my copters has 20 ATG's. You can't just state that kind of stuff. Replace that with maximum weapons carrrying ability and number of hardpoints.

The ITR tech would be considered future tech.

Thx for input

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You need to give an idea on the size and performance of the weapons. Buyers need to know such things.
If you're saying that this can carry 50 Hellfires, than that's more than a bit much, but if you're thinking something along the lines of a guided Hydra, it might be a little more doable, but not as effective.


Edit: Also state if it's an "and" or an "or" for the different weapons listings. Don't want people thinking we can get 100 rockets AND a 2 ton bomb on there.
For that matter, a 2-ton (1814 kg) bomb is likely to be a bit more than it can handle. Even with a sling, that should be a bit much for it to lift, and there's pretty much no way you can get a hard point good enough for that kind of load.

from the design, it seems 4 pylons with 4 points fro weapon mounts on each pylon with a extra center pylon with 1 point for mounting a weapon and a 50cal gun mounted in a turret. thats doable its about 2.5x the capacity of a ah64 apache hardpoint wise. but ITR is complete worthless futuretech. make it radar resistant by shape.

OOC: Uh, 'scuse me but ejection seats on a chopper is a big-time no no. Think of all that blood.... Ewww.....

OOC: The Eurocopter Tiger proved that it is feasible. What happens is a small charge blows off the rotors before the seat fires. No blood.

And come to think of it on that bomb:
The helicopter won't be able to lift it to a safe altitude anyway, so it'd be extremely likely to destroy itself just by dropping the weapon.

You also might want to upgrade the cannon to something around 25mm, a 50 cal round is hard pressed to pierce the armor tanks and apcs use.

Did anybody notice the price? 200 million for an attack helicopter? That's way over priced, i don't know an exact price for it, but something around 12 to 15 million sounds better. (Don't quote me on my price, it might be off)

Made some changes, took it down to a 1/2 ton bomb, 25mm turret gun, Hellfire and ATAS weapons systems, shape of aircraft makes it invincible to radar. more comments welcome

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No ones interested??

I will buy 40 at the cost of 14000000000 dollars.

Confirmed, they will be shipped within 2 NS year

OOC:
Okay, now we get nitpicky:

The AH-64 has a wingspan of nearly 20 ft and carries only 8 hellfires and 4 ATAS. The Ka-50 could carry 20 or so hellfires, and has a wingspan of 25 ft. Clearly, your aircraft is too small to carry 30 hellfires with those dimensions.
Assuming that the ATAS are carried overwing (don't even bother with this "pod" stuff, it won't work), you might get away with a 25 ft wingspan, which is about double what you currently have.
List a rotor diameter in the area of 50 feet or so as well, that's an important stat.

For the pic, I would envision something closer to the lines of the Ka-50/52. You're going to need very large, sturdy wings after all. And don't try too hard on the radar signature. It's not worth it for a helicopter. IR is far more important, because that's what most of the SAMs fired at you will be using, and this can't be a Commanche with that weapons load anyway.

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A fine looking helicopter.

Thank You :)