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Bree Tonia Naval Command {BTNC}

The Minister of Naval Security and Surveillance was not in a good mood. He had been up since 4am, and had no plans of sleep for several days to come. Only a few hours ago, he had had the first incoming satellite reports of a Destroyer flotilla off its planned course, and not just the allowed area, but several hundred miles away from its plotted route. "Charlie" as he was known to his friends had been in a meeting with the Premier just, and the outcome was going to be expensive, the orders were in his satchel at his side.

Deploy 2 Heavy Assault Squadrons and a Medium Carrier Group ASAP
Issue Following Reference: NO67 Hunt and Kill

The meeting hadnt really gone well, in all entrants opinions, the Premier was wound up enough with the recent passing away of the Shadow Aerial Survey minister, a close friend of Zaitzev.
Charlie wouldnt forget the meeting, not for a logn while, and didnt expect to forget the events of the present day either. It had been missing now 8 hours, and it was compromised of 18 Spruance Destroyers, a tough fighting force, and with alot of Firepower behind it.

It was on all the minds of the BTNC officials, Why? It seemed odd it would go so far off-course, because even with navigational failure, that wouldnt affect all 18, surely?

It was then that the Charlie was again disturbed, this time with the instruction to put his PC onto SS4{Secure Stream 4}. he did, and there was displayed a block of text and Charlie immediately read it, and almost fainted once he had done so...

Greetings Dear Officials,
This is Thomas Baldwin, rank Sub-Inspector, Bree Tonia Navy. I am currently the captain of the HDS Leo Kruger, one of many Spruance destroyer I am sure you will have noticed, by now, are well off their planned course. I am letting you know, as an act against the tax-hungry anti-civil government of Bree Tonia, I have commendered the Flotilla, with the aid of several others loyal to my cause. We have total control of all systems on all ships. We are not going to interfere with any foreign nations, but simply to be an anti-thesis to any Bree Tonia forces that pass within our coverage. We will be quiet and act with guile. You will not see us strike Ministers, simply Hear it.
Thankyou for your time,
SI Baldwin
HDS Leo Kruger

Oh, What now? Charlie didnt have anything he could do or say. Lucky that the premier was so actively hostile towards the situation before, god speed to the fleets destined for the "missing" Flotilla.


OOC: If you want to join in the hunt, just RP it out here and ill respond accordingly, either as the Bree Tonia government or the Kruger Loyalists.

those were yours? sorry, we used them for target practice

jk

How can you lose something that big? lol

It could of been lost at sea by a storm.

Sea Monsters! Our scientist have found large biological "masses" in that area. We lost an expedition that was sent out to explore the area two days ago. The second armed expedition left Port Mauew yesterday and should be on site three days hence.

OOC: I'll just drop this in before I go to bed - continue in the morn. :)

PRNEK 07
'Foxtrot' Class Diesel Attack Submarine

Captain Jack Wong rubbed his eyes wearily as he momentarily set his pen down. The log book stared up at him from the table in the glare of the table lamp like an annoyance that couldn't be removed. Pausing a moment, Wong sighed, picked up the pen and continued writing.

The trail run of 07 has gone according to plan so far. All systems tested well on voyage, and we are heading for home. We have been submerged for a day now, trying to keep a low profile to test 07's stealth capabilities. She's an old class, but it's still got some ki-...

The intercom on the table next to the book buzzed. Jack reached over and picked up the telephone reciever. "Captain here."

Lieutenant Hui answered from te other end of the line. "Captain, Sonar, new contacts bearing 047."

The Captain closed the log book and leant forward. "What does it look like, Lieutenant?"

The Sonar officer paused. "Multiple screws, definately a large group. Rotation noise sounds like destroyers, Sir."

The Captain stood, patting down his shirt. "How far out?"

"Roughly twenty thousand metres, Sir. They appear to be on a course relative to our own. No indication that they know we're here." Hui paused for a moment, before adding, "Either they're not expecting anything, or they're acting like they haven't painted us."

Wong nodded to himself. "Alright," he said. "Continue your track; I'll be there in a minute." The Captain replaced the reciever, and stood for a moment with a frown. A destroyer group out here? Someone's a little far from home...

He picked up the reciever and punched a button on the dialpad. Presently, the other end picked up. "Exo here."

Wong grabbed his uniform hat. "Exo, bring us up to periscope depth nice and quiet. I'll be up shortly to take a look at these guys."

"Aye Sir."

Captain Linden had had enough, he and his crew of the SSR Skotja had been tracking a unknown type deisel submarine for weeks which had seemed to loiter awfully close to a new secrect research lab located just slightly north of the artic circle. His orders were clear: destroy all threats.

He cracked his knuckles nervously.
"Les go we got a job to do comrades...prepare torpedo tube 1 and close in to one thousand meters at niner-point-five knots an hour."

The chase was on.

"Commander, we have a destoyer to the northeast" Jack Thistle said into his microphone pickup.
"Adjust flight plan to circle above the destoyer and try to hail it"Commander Tomas Rankin's 3 f9-12 screemer panther planes flew a little behind full throttle as they tried to hail said Destroyer.



ooc: Lost Dynasties ill change the ship type if you will post what it is.

The SSR Nuclear Submarine continued on in the murky depths. Suddenly, sonar pings for the unidentified sub it was chang were picked up and it seemed a larger fleet was approaching this way.

Linden stared in disbelief.
"Shit! they must know we are here! theyre rendevouing with an group of 18 destroyers! Call in reinforcementsand break chase! emergency dive to 1500 meters and go 34* SW!"

In far away Moscow, a message arrieved minutes later for Comrade Vitchousky.

"Sir, we have reports of 18 heavy destroyers and a unknown submersible approaching reaserch station 18. I suggest we scramble units to defend."

"Agreed. Get the 3rd navy in the north sea there ASAP protect RS 18 at all costs."

an hour later, a medium carrier group and 2 cruiser squadrons were found on satallite imagery.

"Comrade, it seems they have countered with 3 battlegroups heading for RS 18."

"Deploy all naval and air forces. Raise to Defcon 1. I WANT the the threat eliminated.

“Captain has the Conn,” The Exo stood to the side of the periscope and saluted smartly. Captain Wong nodded to the man as he stepped through the rear hatch into the nerve centre of the submarine.

“Report,” Wong said, stepping up to the periscope.

The Exo nodded. “Sir, we are at Periscope depth on a relative course to the unknowns. No other sonar contacts found.”

Wong nodded. “Very well.” He cleared his throat. “Up Periscope.”

“Up Periscope, aye Sir.” The smooth cylinder slid up from below the Conn, stopping at the correct height in front of the Captain. Wong snapped down the handles and leant into the periscope sight.

“Got them,” he said after a moment. “Looks like a battle group, definitely more than ten DDs.” He zoomed in. “Not familiar with the design.” With one hand, he pushed a shutter button, taking a photograph of the ships. “Radio, send that back home and request further orders.”

“Aye Sir.”

The Sonar Officer frowned, and then swore to himself in Chinese. “Conn, Sonar, ballast tanks blowing air!”

The Captain looked down from the periscope. A sub doing an emergency dive? He snapped the handles back up. “Down Periscope.” With one hand, he gripped one of the circular railings around him as the periscope descended. “Diving control, make your depth eight hundred feet.”

“Eight hundred, aye Sir.”

Wong checked his wristwatch as the seconds ticked by. “Helm, adjust course heading two six four.”

“Two six four, aye Sir.”

The Exo looked across at his Captain as the sub began to submerge. “Think it’s an escort?” He asked quietly.

Wong rubbed his chin. “I think it could be.” He sighed. “Load forward tubes one through four, rear tubes one and two.”

The Exo nodded and went to pick up the intercom. “Aye Sir.”

Wong gritted his teeth, thinking hard about his next move. “Rig for silent running,” he called. “I want to get off his passive.” Wong leant back, gripping the handrail as the Foxtrot descended. “If he wants us, he’s going to have to paint us with the active.”

windfish-two to serindipity, I have a significant contact on radar, seems to be several attack ships at three mile distance
have you been spotted?
unknown, depends on their detection capabilities, shall I investigate?
your call, any visible aircraft?
none seen,
return, we will monitor the situation from here.
understood,

the pilot turned too tightly, the tip of the wing kicking up spray as he sped away, cursing himself for forgetting he wasn't in a fighter jet anymore.
and hoping gelfland's latest project would not be lost on his account.

OOC: Wow, wasnt expecting so many responses, nice one guys n gals. :)
IC:

HDS Kelegor Luthin, Lost Destroyer Flotilla
The array officer on board the "Kel" wasn't impressed. His two newbie students had failed to pick up on either of the computer-run simulations. They needed alot more training.
It was deadly quiet in the array office, and just the Officer sitting with his 'phones on and intently watching his display.
And then a noise. Quiet at first, but after a second or two grew and then faded. Ballast Tanks. He knew what they were straight off. That means a diving submarine, and from his screen it seemed they were very close-by.

"Conn, Sonar. New contact unknown bearing or heading about two miles to our Aft. Advise submerged contact."
"Sonar, conn. Aye. We'll inform Baldwin ASAP. Thanks, out."

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Baldwin hadnt slept in a long time. He was nevertheless alert and ready, for he knew they would hunt him down. Especially after his threats. Then-

"Sir, We have just registered ballast tanks aft of the formation, about 4 ships picked them up. What shall we do?"
"Ballast tanks you say, why, that would be a Submarine, then?"
"Affirmative, sir."
"Get the ASW Helos up then, and warm up the TT's and Launchers. We can't lose out yet my friend."
"You betcha sir, the Helos will be up in 20 Minutes, and i'll order the Kel to setup her refueling array."
"Thankyou ensign, now, get to it."

The response was effective, every man and woman in the Flotilla knew not to betray the orders of Baldwin, traitor to the state or not. He was known for his violent course of action for those that underestimated him, and these young guns didnt want to be next in line to go on the list.

First, the weapons operators warmed up the TTs, along with the Launcher operators.
Then the entire Flotilla slowed to 4 knots, not to try to be stealthy, but to aid the array's listening capapbility.
A few minutes after that, there were 7 Helicopters up in the air, all with experienced anti-submarine warfare crews, of the SH-60 Seahawk variant, and they, almost as one started dipping within a 3 mile radius of the Flotilla, lighting up everything in their range.

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It wasn't long before a contact was made, although it wasnt aft of the ships, not by a long way, it was at around 750 feet approx. submerged to the port of the ships, fading in and out of tracking range. then after about 40 seconds of dodgy pickups, it was lost. It must have slowed down. Only one of the crew of the Helo that got the contact knew what it was, a DE. A nuclear boomer or, for that matter, SSN, couldn't go that quiet. Electric was the only way it could be achieved. That would mean that it could be down there a few weeks maybe, with modern technology. Even with all these Helos lighting it up with dippers, they knew they wouldnt pick it up again for a long time.

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Bree Tonia Assault Fleet #1
The fleet had only just been entered into service, the majority of the ships were new built, or at least finished being made within the last few years.
The fleet flagship, the HDS Karl Marx, was a Doujin-Built Leviathon class BBN. A very powerful ship, it put a large presence onto the modern day battlefield. She had been made along time ago, an exception to the mostly modern fleet, but she really kicked some naval behind.
The commander of the fleet was a certain Prequel Commander Glenn Smith, DPH {Dictators Personal Honours} He was possibly the most famed naval commander within the Bree Tonia fleet, and knew every tactic out there.
He knew Baldwin personally, unlike the majority of the high ranking officials, who just knew he was a name and a face.
He also knew he was damn good at short range combat and he was in his most pure form on the Spruances, his favoured ship. Glenn was formidable on his leviathon, but it couldnt withstand the payload of 18 Spruances, which is where his escorts came in. It was going to be good combat, but it would be sad to have to destroy so many innocent recruits, but it was now war, and these things happened.
His escorts werent really escorts, as they were more than capable ships on their own. But they really had nothing on the Marx.
The fleet had made its way now for a day and a half, steaming at 27 knots straight for the Flotilla's last known position. They would reach them soon...

B.U.M.P

"Sir, the enemy sub has dissapeared off our sonar entirely!"

Linden sat down in deep thought.

"Turn off sonar and surface. rondevou at maximum speed for 82*N 23*E lets out run these bastards."

Meanwhile in the North sea,

"Comrade it seems that a message from the Kremlin orders Defcon 1."

"Defcon 1? Are you sure? in peacetime? what happened?"

"Not sure comrade, no news on the major networks yet about any military action. just this message telling us to change course to 82* 23* asap."

"hmm... curious i wonder why. whats so important that far north? make course for it then. 20 knots. It's probably just an excercise dont activate weapons systems."

"Yes comrade"

Southern Antartica RS18

"Scramble, Scramble all forces defcon 1. head for open sea. opposition is at least 1 fleet of DDs, 1 diesel sub and 2 Cruiser battlegroups and a NV class Carrier group. Hunt and destroy. This is not a drill, repeat this is not a drill.
All forces report to stations. Shoot to kill, no warning."

in the Kremlin,

Offical document: Level "BLACK CLEARENCE"
Deployment:
15 Mi28 helo gunships from RS18
5 Nuclear attack subs from RS18
1 Nuclear ballistic sub in the Artic Ocean
1 Cruiser group from North Sea
150 Su 37 From North England
All surface to surface missles in region activated
END DOCUMENT

B.U.M.P

QFE

“Come in.”

At the acknowledgement of the knock, Executive Officer Commander Chang Il Sun opened the door to the Captain’s private cabin, and paused in the doorway to salute.

PRNEK 07 had lost the pursuing helicopters forty-five minutes earlier, and Captain Wong had ordered the vessel out to a safe radio distance. The message reply from Kimch’aek was currently sitting in front of the Captain as he sat at his desk reading.

On a 641 Foxtrot, room is scarce. Fifty men share twenty-seven bunks on the entire vessel, sleeping in another’s bed when not on shift. Only the four most senior officers on a 641 have their own cabins. Jack Wong had certainly taken advantage of this luxury of command. The cabin was adorned in wood panelling to cover the bare metal, giving a much more sea-going impression. Adorning the walls where pictures of commands and crew long since past, all depicting action in the Korean War. A large red star dominated the roof, lit at the edges by wall lighting.

Captain Jack Wong was an experienced seafarer who had earned his pips the hard way. Joining the service when he was eighteen, he had served exclusively on submarines until getting command of a North Korean ‘Whisky’ patrol sub shortly before the Korean War, seeing extensive service throughout the conflict. The man was only thirty-five, but the lines around his eyes and the grim soberness of his expression made him look older, as was befitting a man who had found himself caught constantly between the proverbial devil and the literal deep blue sea.

Wong leant back, and rubbed his face wearily, much like he had done when writing the logbook entry. He tapped the sheet on the table and looked at the Exo. “Command says we stay here,” he said.

The Exo blinked. “We what?” He questioned, leaning against the doorframe.

Wong sighed tiredly, picking up the paper with one hand and began to read aloud. “To Captain, PRNEK zero seven from NAVCOM HQ. Understand situation. Request to return denied at this time. Maintain position and survey situation. You are authorised to fire only when threatened. Good hunting.” Wong dropped the paper back onto the desk. “We stay here,” he repeated sombrely.

Il Sun sighed as well. “What do they want us to do? Take some holiday snaps for the ride home?” He asked, gesturing widely. “God-damn top brass don’t know anything about…”

“Comrade Commander Sun,” Wong said sharply, looking at the man with a glare. With one hand, he picked up a pen and began scrawling on the bottom of the transmission as he continued speaking. “I am a lenient man with my crew, but I will not here that sort of talk on my boat. Is that understood?”

Wong held up the paper to the light. In hurried scribble, it said, ‘Door open – Government spies onboard – watch your words.’

Il Sun nodded, understanding. “I am sorry Captain,” he said loudly. “I took momentary leave of my senses.”

Wong nodded. “Very well.” He stood from the chair, stretching his back with a grunt, and sat down on his bunk. “Reverse course and put us parallel to the Destroyer fleet again,” he said. “Keep us nice and quiet in case that nuclear shark is still around.” He leant back against the wall. “Inform me when we get back on course, or if something happens.”

Il Sun saluted sharply and left, leaving the Captain alone with his thoughts once more.

OOC: What's going on with this, then? :)

It looks like it may be too late, and if so, ignore this post:

---PN Naval Command---
"Admiral Michaels, sir, it appears our allies Bree Tonia have a situation."
"A situation? What do you mean, Lieutenant?"
"A pack of DDs, not following orders, advised to be dangerous, sir."
"Response?"
"BT's chasing them, sir, as are other nations. Our response, sir?"

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To: Battle Group Gamma Commander
From: NAVCOM
Renegade BT ships reported. Alert 1st Subgroup, have them move to intercept. Alert BT of fleet's progress, have BT inform other allies. We don't want friendly fire. Michaels out.
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Battle Group Gamma, 1ST Subgroup:

1x Ocean Class Carrier, holding:
105x MiG-29s
33x F-109Ds
20x Su-33s
10x Su-34s

4x Thatcher Class Destroyers
1x Hiroshima Class Cruisers
8x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN

Air assets:
2x DD1-B spy planes
6x DD1-A high-altitude precision bombers

Over the Artic Ocean,
[in a su37s]
"This is Bear 1, we have visual confirmation on DDgroup, request orders."
"this is Eagle 1 we have confirmation ov carrier groups 1 and 2."
"this is Dragon 1 we have visual on a previously unknown carrier group, request orders."

"Leaders, this is command, fire at willl ,repeat fire priority 1 is carriers."

"Eagle Brigade, releasing fox 1,2and 3"
"Bear Regiment relasing fox 1,2,3"
"Dragon Regiment relasing fox 1,2,3"

"All AS-18 Kazoo released, sir"
"Leaders, return to base to restock."
[450 AS 18 anti-ship missles fly across the night sky toward the ships.]
[suddenly, some missles explode in mid-air.]
"Shit, we have lost a few missles. um not a big pribkem though not too many have been destroyed."
[some more explode]
"shit! goddamnit i knew some of these black market bargin missles will screw us over!!!"
[about 200 keep going on toward targets]

NUCLEAR SUBMARINE CLASS:Aii2 NAME:Hells monkeys
The captin was standing on they were at perascope(sp?) depth
"I am going to bed."the captin said in a tired voice
"Yes sir." the 2nd incommand said.
"good if you hear anything rig for silent running" the captin said in a commanding voice
"Yes sir."
"Oh and rig for red to"
"Yes sir"
as the captin entered his living space he didn't right to much it was there 12 day at sea.

23 min. later

the sonar offcier heard a large fleet moving and it was not on any cours that he could tell he yelled "We have ship they aren't on are side no one is out this fare from home."
2nd incommand said " rig for silent running and rig for red to."
the alarm went off and the captin was up in a flash he got to the command room.
"What is it."
"Ships not on are side."
"go to parascope depth and do it nice and easy."

Under the Artic ocean,
[5 nuclear attack subs prowl the seas in search of the DD group]
"prepare torpedos. slow down to 5 knots. we got them on sonar. 10000 meters and closing."
...
...
"7500 meters and closing"
...
...
"6000 meters and closing."
"fire at will all subs fire at will."
"Torpedo 1 fired"
"Torpedo 2 fired"
"Torpedo 3 fired"
"Torpedo 4 fred"
"good job comrades. break attack and lets find that unknown diesel submarine lurking in these waters. dive to 800 meters at 8 knots. i want silent operation."
"Affirmative, sir"
Above artic ocean again
[15 mi28 fly patrol 15 feet above the ocean toward the 2 carrier groups]

On the artic ocean
[The SSR 34 nuclear ballastic submarine strolls away from the battle at 34 knots]

[cruiser group 3 hurries toward the carrier groups.]

"Holy shit, what the hell is that? it must be a radar error sir. Im reading 2 massive groups coming our way. 33* N. and 2 brigades of what seem like su37s or maybe f16 going the opposite way. multiple missles in the air. "

"Check patrol schedules, should we have anything in this area?"

"No sir theres nothing. I suggest contacting moscow."

"Moscow, this is Rear Admiral Olav, What the hell is going on up here in the artic sea? theres a damned war!"

"What? Olav, I can assure you there is no action in the Artic theatre. Why are you so far from your patrol anyway?"

"I thought you gave me orders. as well as a Defcon 2 warning."

"We do not know of any orders. we can safely say there is no defcon 2 announcement. check your equipment. vacate the area and return to your scheduled route."

"Confirmed."

"So should we head back sir?"

"No, hail the groups. I want to know who sent the order and what were protecting in this hell hole."

"Sir, thats violating direct orders form-"

"God-dammit! youre under my orders now. Theres a reason we were sent up here!"

In the Kremlin
"Whats the status of the units?"
"En route sir"
"Has anyone bothered to tell the rest of the goverment whats happened?"
"No sir, we uh, i guess we forgot."
"Forgot? Forgot! God dammit how do you expect me to run a war this way. Tell the rest of moscow whats happeneing and get me a satellite image any enemy in the area."
"Yes sir, ill get on it."

Document
the following units had been deployed as of now.
150 su37
5 SSR 235 class subs
1 SSR 32 sub
[cruiser group 3] including,
2 Stalin class battleships
3 Lenin class BattleCruisers
8 Aegis derivied cruisers
20 Destroyers [DD]
45 patrol ships
55 support ships
2 Attack subs

15 mi28 from rs18
The following are deploying now
100 su37
50 mig 31
35Brahmos (PJ10)
[carrier group 1]
2 carrier
12 cruisers
26 destroyers[dd]
35 patrol craft
4 attack subs.

WARNING: Deployment of further forces on emergency timeframe may stretch budget too far. Total cost is already 18.8billion Us dollars

OOC: Sorry for my absence, Work got hectic with XMas coming up, im here now though.

Destroyer Rogue Group

"Captain, We are getting reports of a very large inflow of missiles heading straight for us, looks like maybe 5 minutes until impact. Best estimate is 170 Missiles, all of the AS-18 Soviet "Kazoo" type."
"Damn! Whats the warhead liek on one of those?"
"700 Pounds sir, explode on impact."
"We might stand a chance, get the bloody CIWS warm now, and get those Choppers on the decks, all of em, we cant risk them to flak."
"Yes sir, Shall I inform Baldwin, sir?"
"I shall see to that."

The Captain of the Kelegor Luthin got straight on short-range comms to Baldwin's personal unit."

"Baldwin here. What is it?"
"Sorry to disturb you sir, it is just we have picked up around 170 anti-shipping Kazoo's incoming, I have ordered for the CIWS to get on alert, and the choppers back on their decks. I advise you to brace sir."
"Thankyou Captain, I will do just that. I also wish you the best for this. Pray and hope, dear Captain. Out."
"Aye sir, Out."

The missiles were picked up on CIWS tracking systems at 15 miles, and seeing as they were sub-sonic didnt have much chance against the Phalanx close-in weapons that the Spruance DDs had on board, the first volley came in from a steep angle, and the 6 of them split into two groups, of 2 and 4. the first went straight for a ships super-structure, but missed and went into the ocean, but exploded on a default water fuse a few seconds after, luckily only causing minor damage, but knocking out the use of 5 lifeboats. The second group of 17 homed on just one ship, the HDS Trial and Regret, and although 9 of the missiles were quickly disposed of, the Port side Phalanx overheated, which took it out of service allowing all of the remaining 8 Kazoo's to hit her deep into her main hull, disabling first her VLS systems and then inevitably sending her to the ocean floor.
Similar fates met 3 other Spruances as each volley of missiles hit, killing alot of men and also managing to damage 2 other ships.
Out of the 172 Missiles that made it into the group, only 56 were left untouched by the CIWS but they were enough to sink and damage alot of ships.

OOC: Losses from missile strike:
Sunk:
HDS Trial and Regret
HDS Turbulence
HDS Tornado
HDS TurnTide
Damaged:
HDS Kelegor Luthin
HDS Kriegor Two
IC:

The Kel, luckily for the innocent on board, wasnt sunk. The captain was in the medical section, being treated for getting seriously hit in his left leg by glass that went flying after shrapnel hit the main screen of the bridge.
Baldwin had been on the Tornado, which had been sunk. It had taken two Kazoo's to the starboard, which hit the magazines for the VLS, and you can imagine what happened then. He died a few seconds later, from immense pressure as explosions tore through the ship, sinking it within two minutes.

HDS Mainstream Suvival, a Romero-Class SSGN with the first Bree Tonia Assault Fleet
"Conn, Sonar. Multiple airborne contacts have hit the surface. I couldnt make out alot of it but it seems 3 large hulls have sunk."
"Sonar, Conn. Very well. Are these in the area where the DD Group is meant to be?"
"Conn, Thats a-firm sir. There is still alot of screw noise on the surface though, and, wait! Oh my, there is alot of SD contact travelling fast into that area. I have got a good reading on the launching subs, sir."
"I fear for the lives of the men on those ships. Lets get tubes 1 through 4 loading with ADCAPS and 5 and 6 loaded with Harpoons. I dont trust that fleet."
"Aye sir, Straight away."

Rogue DD Group
After the news of Baldwins death, and a limp, the Captain, Agor Tovar, of the Kel had taken control of the flotilla. He had managed to establish a good rate of 22 Knots throughout the group, including the two damaged ships.
Just then...

"Captain!! Multiple torps in the water! heading straight for us at a rate of 45 knots, advise what action?"

Agor could have fainted, but knew better. He ordered the group shift upto flank and come around 90* in a flip flop formation, to confuse the fish.
they had around two minutes by his guess.

"Put me through all range comms, Exo."
"Yes sir, you are live on all ships."
"Greetings by Bree Tonian friends, today we are at a loss. We have several torpedoes heading for us and will be here momentarily. We will lose alot of us. Our ASW Helicopters are up. No matter if you, your friend, or the entire group are lost, we shall wreak havoc on these bastards!"

That rose a cheer from the crews of most of the ships, and then they were there. 4 torpedoes from a long range. They were in two groups of two. The first two came into a flood of depth charges and decoys, which managed to distract one, but the other hit the HDS Violent Retribution in the fore section of the port side, going almost through to the other, but resting and then not exploding, luckily as the sharp hull had pierced the torpedoes outer hull and lousy manufacturing had left the inner hull not airtight, so the chip which controlled the warhead was wet and didnt go off. However, this still left the ship with a large hull hole, and this caused her to almost flip onto her port, but just managing to stay alive thanks to quick thinking by its captain, who dropped power to the right screw, diverting it all the the left one. The second group of two stayed together, heading for the Kel, although missing the back of the ship narrowly, but then drifting into the Violent Retribution, finishing her off and she sank rather fast. The other torpedo managed to avoid all the depth charges and decoys laid out and went straight into the Kel, making her swiftly swizzel round to starboard although the explosive luckily just hit a sleeping quarters and galley, and decisive action by the crew on board managed to seal off the two chambers, keeping the Kel afloat.

OOC: Losses from torpedo strike:
Sunk:
HDS Violent Retribution

I'll post further action in a few hours.

"Sir we have fish in the water about 1000 meters away from were we are."
"Ok get ready to fire torpedos from were they were fired at. If they fire any more we will attack them with are torpedos."
"Yes sir."

1 hr later
they were under red alert it had seemed that they were in a never ending war

OOC: Sorry, Soviet Leaders. This is a Modern Tech roleplay, if you take out the spacestation and planets your good to go however.

Commodore Fortino, aboard the flagship PNN Benevolent (Ocean Class) decided to take action. He had seen some of the rogue DDs go down in flames, and he didn't want the rest to be gone before he got his fair chance.
"We'll hit them from so many angles, their CIWS won't be able to keep up."
"Yes, Commodore."
"Have our airborne DD-1s strike with JDAMs from above, while our Su-33s and -34s strike from the air at a distance. They should come in at a lower angle. Time it so that they hit simultaneously. Also, have our Hiroshima fire her SSMs, sea-skimming. Finally, have the Hiroshima put some fish in the water. If we time this right, and it's all coming in at the same time, the CIWS shouldn't be able to react in time."
"Brilliant, Commodore. Yes, Commodore."


total incoming:
36 JDAMs, near-verticle
180 plane-fired ASMs, 60° or so (varied)
8 Sepal SSMs, sea-skimming
6 533mm torpedoes

In the Aritc ocean.
[5 nuclear attack subs hurry away.]
[A report comes in about a unknown
"How far are these hulls rated to?"
"1750 meters sir"
"Go entire fleet 1650meters 5knots quiet operation passive sonar only. load tubes 1,2 conventional, 3,4 with supercavitation torps"
"Affirmative sir."
[Cruiser Group 3 hails]
"Assult fleets, this is Cruiser group 1 of the Socialist Spartan Republics, state your purpose here and your origin. Also, state why there is a unannounced war in the Artic ocean so close to our sovergin waters."

"sir, we have a new report coming in, theres a waring about protecting this area, something about a base being attacked."

"alright then load waepons."
"Do not fire."
[Carrier group 1 prepares for departure in the Channel]
[1200hrs after wave 1, 100 su37 with 2 AA-2, 1 Yakhont missle each take off]
[1230hrs after wave 1, 50 mig 31 with 2 AA-6 Acrid take off]

OOC: No super-cavs, they arent researched enough in RL for them to be really classified as MT IMHO.
IC:

Destroyer Flotilla
The remaining 13 Spruances had taken drastic action since the last two attacks. All ships were fully capable of anti-shipping operatons, and had pushed themselves to 30 knots with two days fuel left. They had come around in a loose formation, bearing down on the Carrier group that had launched the Sukhoi fighters, which had released the bombardment of Kazoos that devastated the flotilla. The Spruances were equipped with enough VLS armament to take down the group, or so thought those on board. When they had gotten within range, not picking up any Subs along the way, they launched each a few volleys of Harpoons, and also ERGM from their gun mounts. And with such a number of destroyers, the array of weapons launched was impressive.

It was just after the launch, say 20 Minutes, that incoming was picked up.

"Set Condition One throughout the ship, repeat, Condition One. Captain, sir. We have a large amount of ASMs and JDAMs, with a few fish maybe aswell."
"Damnit! Dont they see they are killing the innocent here! Launch half of the remaining Harpoons in the direction these things came from, and set them to auto-acquire-"
"But sir, they could then hit any ship they pick up, like a fishing barge or another civvie."
"Thats a risk we will have to take, XO. Do as I say, now, and go to 33Knots throughout the Flotilla."
"But, we have only managed that in unladen trials sir, how would we achieve it?"
"By trying my friend, we will miss 100% of the chances we never take, so this may lose some of the fish. As for the JDAMs and ASMs, well, thats up to fate."
"Aye sir, I will get straight to it."

The Spruances pushed 32 knots for the mostpart, and managed to avoid the torpedoes completely, as their long range sensors were ineffective with all the charges going off. They then repeated their previous volleying of Harpoons with auto-seek. Most of the ASMs had drifted enough to not pick up the Destroyers, although there were still 70 odd incoming from a low level. The JDAMs were coming in at a colossal speed, nearing a few mach. The first 10 JDAMs failed to activate, as they couldnt engage their tracking RADAR in time and just went incredibly fast into the ocean, for the most part. However a few of them actually managed to go into a spruance, piercing the outer hull but coming to rest in a stores room. Of the next 13, 8 of them couldnt activate, but 5 managed to, and hit various targets, sinking one ship almost instantly and damaged 2 others. The final 13, all of which activated, went for the 2 damaged ships, and sinking both. Of the ASMs, the CIWS was fast enough to engage most of them but still 23 of the 78 broke through and hit a few ships, sinking another and damaging one other.

OOC:
Total Losses from ASM + JDAM strike:
Sunk:
HDS Spruance Prime
HDS Backing Fire
HDS Gentle Death
HDS Instant Survival

Weapons launched at Lost Dynasties Carrier Fleet:
104 Harpoon ASMs
26 ERGM Rocket Propelled Rounds

Weapons Launched at Pacific Northwesteria:
52 Harpoon ASMs
26 ERGM Rocket Propelled Rounds

And to update, remaining forces are 9 Spruance Class Destroyers.
IC:

Bree Tonia Assault Fleet
The two assault groups had joined together and were about 200 Miles at the head of the carrier group. The HDS Karl Marx was the flagship of the fleets. There was continous CAP from the two carriers, mainly 12 F-15s full to the brim with AAMs. Prequel Commander Smith had made sure he would get the missing Destroyer group, but was having a hard time figuring out a battle plan what with all the assistance from allies. This new message over the comms was somewhat distrubing though, and latest satelleites updates showed a fair amount of ships in this Cruiser Group, although he knew they wouldnt stand a chance if he got within range for his guns.

"Assault fleet, this is Cruiser Group 1 of the Socialist Spartan Republics, state your purpose here and your origin. Also, state why there is a unannounced war in the Artic ocean so close to our sovereign waters."

"Cruiser Group 1, this is Prequel Commander Glenn Smith of the United Arabia Nation of Bree Tonia. We are here to hunt down the same destroyer flotilla you recently attacked. We have no purpose regarding your territory, and do not wish any interference within it. I apologise for the current combat in the area, however you must understand these ships pose a threat to Bree Tonia and must be eliminated. I wish you well in the hunt, Out."

{OOC:
Joint Assault Fleet:
2x Invincible Assault Carrier
36x Thatcher Destroyer
8x Locke Heavy Cruiser
2x Thunder Child Battleship
2x Leviathon Super-Battleship
36x Sacremento Class Supply Ship
5x T-AO 187 Fleet Replenishment Oiler
8x AOE-6 Fast Combat Stores Ship
16x Africa Minelayer
14x Romero SSGN
10x Virginia NSSN

Medium Carrier Group:
1x Franklin Osis Light Carrier

{Carrying:
12x F-35B Joint Strike Fighters
12x AV-8B Harrier MkII
4x SH-60F Seahawk Heli
2x HH-60H Seahawk Heli}

Hiro Nubunga Mid-Size Carrier

{Carrying:
12x F-14D Tomcat
24x F-15J Eagle
4x EA-6B Prowler
4x E-2C Hawkeye
6x S-3B Viking
2x ES-3A Shadow
4x SH-60 Seahawk
2x HH-60H Seahawk}

8x DD-963 Spruance Destroyer
4x Thatcher Destroyer
3x Prowler Guided Missile Frigate
1x Mackensen Battleship
12x Sacremento Class Supply Ship
3x T-AKR 300 Bob Hope LMSR Heavy Transport
5x Africa Minelayer
5x Romero SSGN
5x Ohio SSBN
5x SeaWolf SSN

Have fun :p}

"change in orders sir, it seems that shortly after spotting the unkown fleet, our carrier was fired upon, they sustained no critical damage, but will be unable to continue trials. they are returning to base, the unknown fleet has come under heavy attack, however one of the ships appears to be attempting to pursue Serendipity. we are to intecept."
"understood, try and make contact with that ship"

this was the crew's first encounter with foreign vessels, outside of port, things look different when youre crusing at 260 knots, the captain could only hope they didn't get to sightseeing at the wrong moment.

[now arriving:
1 tailow-class attack ekranoplan.

{ooc: I was out for a few days, hopfully I didn't mess up your plans too much}

{{OOC: Are you saying that the Destroyer Flotilla attacked your carrier group? I dont remember doing so although if you say I can roleplay it.}}

OOC: I haven't been involved in a roleplay for months. If it's okay ill make late entry. I won't play a huge role in this.

The Royal Navy of Stevid has dispatched five brand new Type 88 Northamptonshire Class Cruisers to contend against the rebel ships. But give them time to arrive.
Just ask for assistance and we will gladly assist you

Admiral Sir Alan West
First Sea Lord of the Royal Stevid Navy
Commader of the HMS Crusader

{{OOC: Nah thats cool. Problem I face now is that with only 9 Destroyers left and so many ASM equipped ships after them they wont last long really. I dont think they could survive another attack by PN or LD. Although if this Base thingy turns up something im sure my other Assault Group could have some fun.

And any stats on that new ship? Sounds good.}}

IC:
Addressed to Admiral Sir Alan West

Greetings Admiral,
I thankyou for your assistance in this matter and wish you the best in the hunt. I warn you however these Destroyers are violently commanded.
Thanks,
Prequel-Commander Glenn Smith
Bree Tonia National Navy

Well if they were near the Island of Ferir, then I know what happened to them. Ferir is used as our weapons testing island, and lately, our orbital lasers have been going off course, and a few hit water. A number of ships have been destroyed, and hopfully none of them were yours.

-Thomas Jindrak Kay
Cpt. The Black Knight Infantry

Warships are inbound and your warning has been taken note of Bree Tonia.
The ships will arrive shortly with weapons armed.

Admiral Sir Alan West

OOC: I'll get the specs soon for the Type 88 Cruiser.

{{OOC: Are you saying that the Destroyer Flotilla attacked your carrier group? I dont remember doing so although if you say I can roleplay it.}}

{{no, it was one of LD's missles, but my crew couldn't have known that , I had to go back and reread it before I figured it out. my ekranoplan is approaching the area, if you are looking for a target, }}
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/903.htm

StrongBadia Land - Nowhere near it.

Stevid - Good Luck.

Gelfland - Ooh, thats big and slow. Destroyers would have fun with their AGS on them. IF you want you can RP it movign about a little then ill see if I can hit it with the lost Flotlla.

Weapons Launched at Pacific Northwesteria:
52 Harpoon ASMs
26 ERGM Rocket Propelled Rounds


Commodore Fortino smiled with satisfaction as he heard the reports coming back. Nothing was lost in the attack, and several enemy ships sunk. Suddenly, alarms sounded on the bridge.
"Commodore! We've got missiles incoming! Also multiple other contacts, sir. They must be from the destroyers! Please advise!"
"Helm, hard a-port! Have the rest of the fleet do likewise, to bring all of our CIWS to bear. Get them warmed up... we're going to need them fully operational in a second."
"Aye aye, Commodore!"
"And jam their radar, if you can... to be effective at that range, they must still be waiting to lock on. If we can prevent that, we can make the work lighter on our defenses."
"Attempting, Commodore."

The missiles began coming in, and it quickly became apparent that the attack was too little, too late. The jamming was having some effect, and the missiles were only able to get a partial lock. Also, the fleet's 51 combined anti-missile systems (mostly various CIWS) were more than a match for them. The ERGMs, on the other hand, were a different story. Although they were fired in a rush and were not locked on, it created a bird-shot effect. The 26 individual rounds came in hot and fast, exploding in the water. One managed to hit the belt armor of the Hiroshima Class, causing some moderate damage. No sailors were lost, however, 14 were wounded in the attack. Another hit the water near a frigate, and its screws were severely damaged. It would have to be towed back to port.

In response to this attack, catching Fortino off guard, the Commodore decided to stop playing games. Using targeting solutions on the fleeing destroyers from his DD-1 B's in the air, The fleet's destroyers and frigates let off a salvo of VLS while the fighter-bombers used in the strike returned to the carrier. The fleet maintained its pursuit, although it was very slowly losing ground on the sprinting DDs.

[ooc]
incoming:
226 Ironhawk Missiles (with spy-plane guidance, followed by self-contained terminal guidance)

FOR BREE TONIA'S ASSULT GROUP, Gefaland scrool down.(damn theres too many damn fleets in too small a space.
{i got tired of destroying the destroyers."}

[Cruiser group 1]
"We are getting a fax from Moscow. Um apperantly we have a secrect military base. and we are supposed to defend this base at 38,15 at all costs."

"Bree Tonia Assult Ggoup, Turn away. We have clear new orders to fire on you if you encroach anymore. This will be your 1 and only warning."

[15 minutes later]

[100 su37 with 1 yahnot AGS and 2 AA-2, 50 mig31 with 2 AA-6 {biggest air to air missles in the world i think.} each and within the 50 mig-31 planes are interspersed 35 pj10 brahmos AGS]
"Scramble all fighters"

"Head for carrier fleet. Search and destroy carriers first priority. get those other cruippled destroyers later."

"Aye sir. Releasing weapons."
[100 Yakhont supersonic Anti ship missles take flight.]
[35 Bramohs PJ10 Take flight]
"All aircraft take patrol. shoot down what comes up."
"Yes Sir."

[attack Sub Group]
"Were getting sonar pings, multiple high frequency, seems to be a major assult group. Not taking any precautions at stealth."

"Dammit how many of them are there? Okay whats our chances of getting close enough to fire?"

"Not good with all their sonars. We may be able to get a few hits faruther out with our supercavaiting type torpedoes."

"Alright try that. load tubes 1-6 with supercavating. be ready to load with guided later."

"Aye sir."
"How far?"
"20000meters"
"15000meters"
"10000meters"
"8000meters"
"Emergency surface and fire at carriers."
[30 supercaviating torpedoes fire at carrier group/assult group]
"Reload and prepare for next battery with conventional seeker torps.
[mi28 group 15feet above the surface]
"Water condition calm, assult carrier group in sight. Permission to fire?"

"Fire at will"
"Radar Jamming on"
"Aim Low Comrades"
"Firing"
[180 Ataka anti tank missles missles fire on carrier group]

NOTES PLEASE READ
{Bree Tonia, these missles are all supersonic the ataka probably wont do too much damage and the radar jamming is on so your best bet is probably heat seeking anti missle patriot batteries to take down the atakas and Brahmos and Yakhnot missiles. as for the torpedoes, they travel at 230mph thanks to their supercaviating nature but dont home in like other torpeodes."}

FOR GEFALAND CARRIER GROUP
[SSR CARRIER GROUP 1 MOVES TOWARD THE Gefaland Carrier group.]

"Sir im getting multiple patrol craft 550kilometers north. unknown type."

"Go load all weapons."
"Suprise attack them."

"Aye Sir"

"Launching all aircraft for strike mission."
"Um sir we have what seems to be a alarminingly fast ship of some sort coming toward the opposition carrier group, estimated speed about 200knots."

"What? Shit ive heard of these, i thought it was just a rumor, someone told me we bere building jet powered winged beasts in one of our 'secrect' research buildings, RS18 or something like that even though there is no infomation about it anywhere. it must be those ekanplans those people told me about."
"How, how could they have gotten their hands on our tech??? Destroy it. all costs."
[220 Su33s launch carring 1 Yakhnot each and 4 AA2 missles.]

[Nuclear Ballistic sub]
"We have orders to fire on 33,13 and 34,13 with ICBMs"
"Confirmation?"
"Orders are direct form the Kremlin sir"
"Fire 1 and 2"
"ETA?"
"8 minutes"
NOTES
{the Icbms are heading for Bree Tonia Assult carrier group and the Geflaand carrier group, better hope your interceptor missles still work, unfortunately, our cruiser group itself dosent know its coming either.}

OOC:
Few things to point out here.
1) As I stated before, no super-cavs. Regular torps fine but super-cavs arent something that are modern tech in my opinion.
2) ICBMs hit within a 20 Mile radius at very best, they arent guided while in the air simply set to one location before launch so by the time they would hit where my fleet was my fleet would be a few hundred miles away.
3) Your planes wouldnt get within range for Anti-Surface, I have about 24 planes up all the time, with the capability for much more. Oh, and the AEW wings up would pick you up early.
4) Also, how did you get 200 Planes out to sea in one carrier group?
5) Its really silly to open fire on my Navy. I will roleplay it out if you answer my previous question, however, I really beg you to think over doing this first. And if you want some intense RP, get your ships within range of the 22" Peacemaker guns on the Leviathons :p
6) EDIT: I just checked up on the Yakhont, its not available for air-launch. Its from a 9-Meter long pod, and id be very impressed if the Sukhois of MiGs could carry such an armament

srry about super cavs. thought the one im talking about is actually on the market. russia released them in 2002.
[converted. standard torpedoes with seeking.]

ICBMS hit stationary at 700meters for the best ones bout 1 km for the normal orerAtional. my ballsitic sub is about 500 miles away so it is basically a ballistic missle. please compensate for the firing. we aim them like wwII era flak cannons. we guess where you will go so they fire in front of your group appropriately. thoug i do agree they are a waste seeing as the most damage will be a
big tidal wave,
damage to electrical systems [most important cause without electronics, the ships are sitting ducks.]
radation sickness
{im not trying to sink ships with these missles, just disable some electronics on the carrier groups form you and Gefarland so my fleets stand a chance.}

the enterprise class carriers can fire off about 150 planes per carrier.
my carriers are similarily powered/sized maybre a bit smaller due to russia/soviet spending constraints. although i agree the stocks of weapons fuel is being used up pretty fast. i estimate i might have enough material if my fleet is lucky for 1 more strike with the same planes.

this RS18 base is the most important asset to the Socialist Spartan Republics. Ill show why later. even the destruction of about half our navy is worth us saving that base. Besides my mig 31s and SU37 land based craft did attack them already with some pretty powerful stuff.

besides the element of suprise. im flying at 30 feet above sea level. radar evasion workso somewhat at that height right?

Okay. Ill RP out what I can tomorrow around 1:30 GMT, i have to pop to bed now as I have work early tomorrrow.

tag

NOTE
give your fleets a little bit of a margin of victory. even at this stage. im expecting both you guys to destroy my fleets and land an army at RS18. not too big an army but a good sized maybe 5-10k men per army.

ill draw up a map for the base in MS paint.

base map
base map http://clan-ut.iwarp.com/base.jpg (http://clan-ut.iwarp.com/base.jpg)

please, each block is 1 zone not 1 building.

[ooc:still waiting for damage reports, BT]
Commodore Fortino was on the horn with Admiral Michaels.
"Sir, it's gettin' hot over here, even though it's the arctic. Fleets keep showing up from nowhere, and some have started attacking each other. We're hearing [or not, if it's too heavily encrypted... doesn't matter to the storyline] some interesting radio chatter, about some sort of a base in the area. Some fleets are making near-suicidal attacks; they must be defending something."
"I see your point, Commodore. Is this your way of asking for backup, son?"
"Yes, Admiral. I would feel much more secure in my position if you would kindly send..."
"Oh, shut up Fortino. This isn't the Royal Navy, for godsake. I'm coming to take command myself... and an Admiral doesn't travel without protection. It might take a few days, maybe a week for me to get there, but when I do, you'll know it."
"Admiral, I would suggest staying out of sight for a while, unless things get dicey. We don't want to panic anybody, make them do something careless."
"I see your point, Commodore. We'll keep a low profile. Michaels out."

------------------------------------------
ooc:
Admiral Michaels relieving Commodore Fortino as commander of Joint Task Force Omega. The following forces are on their way, to enter the battle if things get hot:

First Expeditionary Fleet:

Battle Group Alpha:

1ST Subgroup:
1x Ocean Class Carrier, carrying
80x MiG-29s
20x F-109Ds
38x Su-33s
30x Su-34s
3x Thatcher Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
8x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN

2ND Subgroup:
1x Mackensen Class BB
3x Meteora Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
8x Defiance Class Frigates

3RD Subgroup:
1x Mackensen Class BB
1x Meteora Class Destroyer
2x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
8x Lion Class Frigates

Battle Group Beta:
1ST Subgroup:
1x Ocean Class Carrier, carrying
90x MiG-29s
28x F-109Ds
30x Su-33s
20x Su-34s
3x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Hiroshima Class Cruiser
7x Lion Class Frigates
2x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN

2ND Subgroup:
1x Thunder Child Class BB
3x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
9x Defiance Class Frigates

Battle Group Gamma:
1ST Subgroup:
1x Lunar Class Carrier, carrying
60x MiG-29s
30x Su-33s
10x Su-34s
10x Sea Hawk Gunships
3x Suiheisen Class Destroyers
1x Hiroshima Class Cruiser
9x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN
2x Dreadnaught Class SSGN
1x Swordfish Class SSN

2ND Subgroup:
1x Infusion Class Carrier
60x MiG-29s
20x Su-33s
20x Su-34s
4x Suiheisen Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
9x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Dreadnaught Class SSGN
1x Swordfish Class SSN



Second Expeditionary Fleet:

Battle Group Alpha:

1ST Subgroup:
1x Infusion Class Carrier, carrying
65x MiG-29s
15x F-109Ds
10x Su-33s
10x Su-34s
3x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Hiroshima Class Cruiser
8x Defiance Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN

2ND Subgroup:
2x Formidible Class Carriers, carrying
16(each)x MiG-29s
8(each)x Su-33s
4x Suiheisen Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
8x Defiance Class Frigates

3RD Subgroup:
1x Thunder Child Class BB
3x Suiheisen Class Destroyers
7x Defiance Class Frigates
3x Dreadnaught Class SSGN
1x Swordfish Class SSN



Battle Group Beta:
1ST Subgroup:
1x Infusion Class Carrier, carrying
60x MiG-29s
15x F-109Ds
25x Su-33s
4x Meteora Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
7x Lion Class Frigates
1x Sea Wolf Class SSBN

2ND Subgroup:
1x Lunar Class Carrier, carrying
65x MiG-29s
10x F-109Ds
35x Su-34s
3x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Hiroshima Class Cruiser
8x Lion Class Frigates

3RD Subgroup:
1x Mackensen Class BB
4x Centaur Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
7x Defiance Class Frigates

Battle Group Gamma:

2ND Subgroup:
1x Mackensen Class BB
4x Meteora Class Destroyers
1x Katori Class Cruiser
7x Defiance Class Frigates

[apologize for the long post... numberwanking is not my intention, I merely want people to know (ooc, of course) what I'm sending]

9 carriers 6 bb pacific northwesta? that would take at least maybe 10-20turns to gather them form around the world or mobilize. surely you dont have that many patrolling the artic od you? Thats overkill if i ever saw any. how does 1 nation mobilize so many ships in such a short time span remember were playing in about hourly to maybe 6 hour increments.

IN Moscow.

Offical Document:
ALL forces Tactical and Strtegicare to mobilize to Defcon 1 ASAP. SSR is under attack. Defcon 1.
[Immediate]
25000troops[to rs18]
5transports[to rs18]
Cruiser Group in the Meditereanean.[eta 3 turns]
Carrier group in the north Pacific[eta 2 turns]
1 DD group at murmunsk[eta 3 turns]
1 BB group at St. Petersburg[eta 2 turns]
[in 5 turns]
50 mig 31
120 su37
150 yak141
30 TU26 Bombers
10000 soldiers
2 transports

OOC: LD I need confirmation on what Missiles your using that are Air launched before I can post losses and such.
IC:

Bree Tonia Carrier Group
"Admiral, the two assault fleets are now fully joined, and they are about 200 miles to our fore. Shall we keep the CAP down for refueling or squeeze some others up?"
"Send up two F-35s and get them rammed full of AAMs. Slow us to 4 Knots with a westerly direction."
"Yes sir."

Soon afterwards two Joint Strike Fighters lifted off from the deck. As the pilots got a few miles away, they were almost blinded by a sudden large light. They looked behind to see a watery grave for the entire carrier group. One pilot knew what had happened.

"Cat 2, They just nuked us."
"Shit. Are there even any ships left afloat?"
"Not a single one."
"But, how did an ICBM know where we were?"
"The enemy must have guessed our trajectory. We had no chance against it. I advise going to max speed, I dont want to get radiation sickness. The assault fleet has a carrier, lets see if we can make it there."
"You betcha, Out."

Luckily the two JSFs, freshly refueled, could make it to the Invincible class VSTOL carrier with about 10 minutes of fuel left, after a few bad landing attempts. The two pilots both got a helicopter ride onto the Karl Marx, and met with Commander Smith on the Bridge.

"Hello gentlemen. What on earth happened back there? All we saw was a flash and then nothing, RADAR isnt picking up the carrier group any more."
"We got nuked, sir."
"What? Dont be-"
"Sir, we saw it. They nuked us. I dont know how or from where, but they did."
"Hey, XO. Werent we picking up some heat signatures about an hour ago?"
"Yes sir, around 400 Miles to the East."
"I take it our Destroyers are warmed up?"
"Are you thinking what-"
"Indeed, Launch enough to overwhelm them. I want them dead, now!"

All 36 of the Thatcher Class Destroyers within the Assault Group were equipped with two 32 Cell Strategic VLS systems, and a single 48 Cell tactical VLS with a variety of missiles throughout the destroyers. The Invincible sent up a Harrier SAD Edition with a large RADAR boom on it, allowing these missiles to be fired accurately from long range. Each Thatcher fired off 12 Tomahawk TLAMs from the fore Tactical VLS, and also 12 Harpoon ASMs. They all roared with acceleration and then sped off in search of their enemies. The Harrier SAD had lit up the attacking Cruiser Fleet already, risking itself but feeding back data all the time.

OOC: Lost Dynasties, You have 432 Tomahawks incoming with 432 Harpoons behind that.
IC:

Lost Destroyer Flotilla
The captain was annoyed. he had just had reports of more incomings. Fast, huge and high angle. Hundreds of them. He knew what would happen. Him, and a few other captains, boarded a Merlin helicopter and flew off into the horizon, leaving the XOs in charge ready for when the strike came in. The missiles were unstoppable, CIWS got a few but really all the ships had more than 20 Missiles to deal with. Total death. A few hundred crew made it onto lift rafts in time but as far as they knew the closest fleet that was friendly was in the Atlantic. The helicopter with the captains was miles away by this time, searching out any ship with a landing pad for them.

Bree Tonia Assault Group
EAM Flash Message
Premier,
Carrier group suffered total losses via nuclear strike. Have retaliated with overwhelming force. Need air support, request Carrier Group from Atlantic proceed to my area.
Glenn

The message was submitted and got a reply soon.

EAM Reply Message
Glenn,
Confirmed. Large Carrier Battle Group en route. Good fighting, friend.
Premier

"Damn, thats lucky. Itll take few days at the very least. XO, How many wings can we maintain CAP with?"
"With current fuel reserves, 8 Planes."
"Thats good. Order the fleet to come to new heading 034 Degrees, speed 16 Knots."
"Aye sir."

OOC: Just realised, LD, also you need to post losses from the 104 Harpoon ASMs
26 ERGM Rocket Propelled Rounds that the Destroyer flotlla fired at your carrier group.

{south Artic Sea Carrier Group 1}

{missles are 100 Yakhont supersonic Anti ship missles and 35 Bramohs PJ10 along with 180 hell-fire like Ataka anti tank missles missles.}

{srry but i couldnt find much info on effectiveness of this EGRM thing so i guess ill treat them like harpoons.}

"Sir we have about 120 to 140 missles headed our way."

"eta?"

"3 minutes"

"How many interceptor missles can we get up?'

"The whole fleet might be able to get about 131 to 160 intecptor missles sir."

{1 interceptor per patrol boat, 2 per destroyer, 3 per cruiser, 4 per carrier. based on the ER Patriot anti-missle interceptor weapon all us ships are equipped with. a couple boats realease more than 1 volley due to fire rates and crew effectiveness}.

"intercept"

140 interceptors*.66 kill rate=92 missles destroyed.
130harppon/egrm -92=38
38*.9 hit rate=34 missles hit.
80% harpoon 20%egrm
27 are harpoon
7 are EGRM

Hits
3-SSR Lenin-Bow, matience area. Kill 83 and injure 12 mechanics/matience. Destroy or disable 22 SU33 fighters.
12 hit cruisers
10 hit destroyers
9 hit patrol craft

losses:
5 cruisers
8 destroyers
9 patrol craft

Disabled ships:
2 cruisers
2 Destroyers
1 Carrier semi disabled but still operational.

Operational ships of Carrier Group 1
1 Carrier fulll, 1 Carrier semi
5 Cruisers
16 Destroyers
29 patrol craft
4 Attack subs

"Were Hit pretty bad sir. some ships are going to have to limp back to port."

"Alright but keep as amny operational ships as we can. Defend to the last man."

"Uh sir we have a massive number of incomings seems like 400 for us and 400 for Trovsky's Cruiser group."

"Intercept. eta?"
"10 minutes."
{NOTE BOTH MY GROUPS WILL DMG REPORT AT ONCE}
{calculation: 1 batch of intercept missles every 3 minutes with 66% hit rate. carriers/BB fire 4 at a time, battle cruiser fire 4 at a time, cruiser fire 3 at a time, destroyer fire 2 at a time, patrol craft fire 1 at a time 5 times during the 15 minutes.}

16 per wave-4 battleship/carrier
12 at a time-3 battle cruisers
39 at a time-13 cruisers
72 at a time- 36 destroyers
74 at a time- 74 patrol craft
213 at a time fired
fired 5 times
[1065 missles eventually hit the air to intercept.]
[ 66% intercept rate now.]
1065*.66=702.9
800-703=97
97*.9=87.3
87 missles hit.

4 battleship/carrier
3battle cruisers
13 cruisers
36 destroyers
74 patrol craft

9 hit the Carrier group
6 hit the battle cruisers
13 hit the cruisers
26 hit the destroyers
33 hit the patrol craft

Losses
6 more hit SSR Lenin: Completely disables. 1 his ammo storage. Sinks.
2 Hit SSR East Berlin Battleship Kill 55 injure 25
1 Hit SSR Marx Carrier. Kill 30 injure 12
4 hit Battle Cruiser 1 Destroyed
2 Hit battlecruiser 2 Disabled prop and drivetrain 1 of 3. kill 80 men. injure 5.
5 cruisers destroyed
1 cruiser disabled
11 destroyers destroyed
2 destroyers disabled
33 patrol craft destroyed

3 Carriers left
3 Battlecruisers left
7 cruisers left
23 destroyers left
41 patrol craft left.
6 subs
{inclusive for both operational groups. now 1 massive fleet.}
"Fire back."
[146 missles in 4 waves fire while fleet 1&3 retreats toward st. petersburg.]
[about 619 missles fire toward carrier group of Bree Tonia for combined groups 1&3]

[THE 6 SUBS DETACH TO JOIN THE 5 other subs and form a sub harassment fleet. they head toward the Bree Tonia carrier group.]

[11 nuclear subs head for Bree tonias carrier group]

[1 ballistic sub scurries toward st. petersburg.]

[mi 28 helos suddenly rise literally on top of the Bree Tonia carriers form 15 feet to 300 feet and fire at all planes/equipment/people on deck. concentrate most of the fire on the flight deck itself to render it disabled.]

{In the pcific}
[200 SU33 head for Gelfland's carriers barely flying above 30 feet to avoid radar.]
{In the artic.}
the base Rs18 mobilizes.

[In the kremlin]
Warning, naval forces lost. heavy damage. no counts yet biut very substantial. fleets retreating back to port. Nuclear strikes confirmed. 1 carrier fleet wiped out. RS18 is open to attack unless measures are taken.

"Emergency mobilize shock force 12 and 13."
"Sir our budget is stretched too far.. our armies cant stand this strain."
"do it. the fate of our nation rests ion this."

deployed:-5 turns from now.
--fleet 1, to engage enemy---
6 Battlecruiser
20 Cruiser
30 Destroyer
100 Patrol Craft
10 Attack subs
20 transports with 1500 troops each
5 transports with 60 T90 tanks each
3 Transports with 60 BMP-2 and 100 untracked vehicles(the russian equivlent of a hummvee?"
---to patrol artic-----
2 Ballistic Subs

9 carriers 6 bb pacific northwesta? that would take at least maybe 10-20turns to gather them form around the world or mobilize. surely you dont have that many patrolling the artic od you? Thats overkill if i ever saw any. how does 1 nation mobilize so many ships in such a short time span remember were playing in about hourly to maybe 6 hour increments.

Turns? This isn't D&D. We don't play by "turns". The way it works is, everyone posts their actions and nobody posts more by the same units until the opponent has a chance to respond... this makes sure that a battleship can't fire 20 volleys before the opposing fleet gets to fire.
Those forces are on the way, they're not there yet. As I stated. It'll take a week or two for them to get there. Those are my first and second expeditionary fleets. They're made to go around the world to do stuff. They're not my defense fleets, or my base fleets, or my main fleets. They're expeditionary fleets. Meaning that I don't have to mobilize them: they're constantly mobilized. It takes that long for them to get to the arctic.
Those forces are not engaging immediately. They are there in case things get ugly for my existing subgroup. The BT fleet has been attacked, and PN wants to respond, but as of yet doesn't have the capabilities. Now that people have been nuked, I want the reinforcements even more. And please don't call it overkill. It's two fleets, moving into a very hot area with unknown numbers of enemy fleets in it. Also, Michaels likes to do things in style. He doesn't arrive in a frigate.

Can somebody please explain who's attacking whom? There are missiles flying everywhere. BT's carrier group got nuked? It's all very confusing. What are the (IC) sides in this mess?

gelfalnd cetral command
sir, we have lost contact with the seridipitiy, possible fission weapon detonation in the area.
analasys?
probale total loss, escort craft may have survived, we have aircraft en route to the site, the pilots were breifed about the potential for hostiles.
understood.
and the unknowns?
windblade has not reported in, wait, I'm getting something;
"this is windblade, we have lost portside engines to hostile aircraft, launching all missiles and abandoining ship."
{LD: 1 Moskit}

<that about wraps up my involvment, other than comaprativly dull search-and-rescue/salvage operations,TG me if you feel you should be involved.>

OOC: Right, lets get some stuff straight first.

{missles are 100 Yakhont supersonic Anti ship missles and 35 Bramohs PJ10 along with 180 hell-fire like Ataka anti tank missles missles.}

Yakhonts cant be fired from the Air, so they need changing. Anti-Tank missiles have a range of maybe 20 Miles and thats pushing it.

140 interceptors*.66 kill rate=92 missles destroyed.
130harppon/egrm -92=38
38*.9 hit rate=34 missles hit.
80% harpoon 20%egrm
27 are harpoon
7 are EGRM

You dont get interceptor missiles with a 66% rate of success, I hear the Sea Sparrow hits maybe 20% and thats when the crew are almost manually guiding it, so thats a IGN.

{calculation: 1 batch of intercept missles every 3 minutes with 66% hit rate. carriers/BB fire 4 at a time, battle cruiser fire 4 at a time, cruiser fire 3 at a time, destroyer fire 2 at a time, patrol craft fire 1 at a time 5 times during the 15 minutes.}

Im not too sure where you get this batch firing thing from, or for that matter a Carrier with anti-missile capability like that.

[about 619 missles fire toward carrier group of Bree Tonia for combined groups 1&3]

I have no Carrier Fleet, you nuked it.

[mi 28 helos suddenly rise literally on top of the Bree Tonia carriers form 15 feet to 300 feet and fire at all planes/equipment/people on deck. concentrate most of the fire on the flight deck itself to render it disabled.]

So slow-moving slow-handling huge helicopters somehow made it through the tens of destroyers, cruisers and corvettes surrounding the Carrier that doesnt exist because you nuked it? Right, another IGN.

[200 SU33 head for Gelfland's carriers barely flying above 30 feet to avoid radar.]

His Carrier Fleet got nuked too, remember?

Er.. not much I can post IC, except maybe...

IC:

Bree Tonia Assault Fleet
Bridge of the HDS Karl Marx...

"Commander, sir, reports indicate that when missiles left our tracking range they were all still going well, as for damage to the enemy, well, that unknown at this point."
"Good, good. I want those idiots dead, they messed with Bree Tonia. Now they will pay. Even after a thousand missiles, they might not be destroyed totally, I want us within artillery range as soon as possible. Also, get a stronger CAP up, I dont want another aerial attack."
"Aye sir. I can take the fleet to a joint speed of 26 Knots, shall I?"
"Indeed. And get all the guns loaded, I want to broadside those carriers and put them out of action first, then we can move onto the smaller ships. Any battleships in their fleet?"
"Well, we didnt see any. Biggest ships 'cept the carriers were a few BattleCruisers."
"Engage them with our other Battleships and ASMs, lots of them."
"Okay sir. I will relay the order to engage as soon as we are in range. Can I advise you get some rest before we get there sir?"
"Good lad, I will now you mention it."

The assault fleet, a while later all turned straight for the last knwon position of the enemy fleet, and all of the different types of guns were loaded ready.

OOC{again}:

Just to let you know what will hit you when I get there:

Leviathon Class Dreadnought {Two of these ships}:
Artillery:
24 x 22"/60 “Peacemaker” ETC Naval Guns,
8 x 5”/48 ETC Naval Guns,
---
Thunder Child Class Battleship {Two of these aswell}:
16 x 22"/60 “Peacemaker” ETC Naval Guns,
9 x 5"/48 ETC Naval Guns,

"Commodore Fortino, what is your situation?"
"My task force is joining up with Bree Tonia's remaining fleet, to try to keep a solid line. Instructions?"
"None. That sounds fine. Stay with them, make sure they don't get themselves into any more trouble, and for God's sake, don't get yourself nuked."
"Wasn't planning on it, sir. Pardon my asking, sir, but when will you be arriving?"
"I should be in-theater in a few more days, with the 2nd Expeditionary Fleet. Unfortunately, the 1st was farther away, and won't arrive for a week or so. It shouldn't be a problem, though: if anything gets big enough that we need them, it will drag on long enough that they'll arrive in time."
"That's a relief, sir. Say, you wouldn't happen to be bringing supplies and ammo with you, would you sir?"
"I must have read your mind, Commodore. The 1st and 2nd Fleets are escorting supply ships, to replenish the missiles on your destroyers and frigates. We've also got some extra fuel and ammo, just in case."
"Hot damn, sir! I mean... thank you, sir. I was just wondering whether I'd be able to use my destroyers much more."
"That won't be a problem. Michaels out."
"Fortino out."

With that, Commodore Fortino looked out across the water, watching the BT fleet come into focus. He had been dispatched to deal with some rogue destroyers. Now he was about to fight a war.

<ooc: chronology, BT, given the intent stated, I assume the nuke was a HANE: long-range missiles would have been fried, and missed, or the EM would have disabled his planes, sheilding for either would be impractical given number of craft involved.>

(inbound craft: 3 search planes, headed for last known co-ordinates of serindipity.)

(windblade crew in escape/evasion senario)

{either way my first 2 fleets are out of action. complete losses form my point of view. missle destroying or not. they're out of the RP. im considering them total losses. they are heading for st. petersburg right now.}

the anti tank missles are from the Mi28s.
forget the yakhonts. srry. got some wrong info from a website. they listed them under AGS missles. just turn them to pj 10 brahmos. they are firing at your remaining fleet.

forget the mi28s ill just assume your fleet destroyed them after launching the anti tank missles at your remaining fleet.

coast is clear of SSR forces. the only force left is the subs and the base itself.

[Message in RS18}
"All scientists Evacuate to Lake Vostok. Transport all plans, expriments and prototypes possible."

[in the rush, some biological and chemical samples as well as a few nuclear warheads were left behind.]

[Also all the zygotes of Project: Soldier{a secrect program where the goverment gets eggs and sperm form sperm banks, creates children and raises thme to becomes pure bred soldiers} were left behind]

[All military personnel in RS18 mobilize.]

[Kremlin]
"Weve lost more than 50% of forces to enemy fire. their combined fleet is far outnumbering us."

"alright. whats in between the fleets and the base?"

"nothing, just a few subs."

"How many troops can we paradrop into RS18 in 24 hours?"

"10 thousand troops and a few hundred tanks at the very least sir."

"Do it."

[Over the artic a few hours later, a AN-225 wing flies over to deliver militatry equipment and troops. ]
"Sir, im seeing a lot of ships off in the edge of my radar, 30* West. Request instructions."

"avoid them. adjust course east to avoid confrontation.."

"Yes Sir."

[Drops troops.]

[troops in the RS18 base]
25000 soldiers
300 tanks
500 BMP2
3000 Hummvee type vehicles
150 artillery
35 mi28
100 mig31
150 su37

[ooc: if you don't mind, I'm gonna speed this up, because nothing is happening. This post would in all actuality take about 3 or 4 days to happen. Feel free to RP the preparations you would have taken in that time.]

Commodore Fortino was relieved that Admiral Michaels's fleets had finally arrived. They had all linked up with BTs fleet, as well as an additional carrier group BT had on the way (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong BT). Together, the united and mighty fleet steamed in the direction of sighted paradrops... something must be going down there.
Admiral Michaels ordered his flagship, the PNN Destiny (a Thunder Child Class) to hail the mysterious base found at the coordinates. [ooc: if the base is hidden, he sends a general radio signal into the vicinity. Please describe the situation, and where the base is relative to the water. The image you posted didn't seem to work for me.] After a Frigate, sent to scout ahead, drew hostile fire, Michaels decided to subdue whatever was there. He ordered his ships to load all weapons, and got on the horn with the BT command ship.
"Attention Bree Tonia Commander. We seem to have a dilemma. Clearly, this base was important. Now we have a tough decision to make. Do you bombard it to hell, or do we try to take it intact? It may have valuable information, but then again, it may be a death trap. Over."

{{OOC: Thanks LD, Clears things up alot. First i'll RP losses from the ASMs {619 PJ-10 Brahmos} then something else *ahem*}}

IC:

BT + PN Joint Fleet
On the bridge of the Maritime Vengeance, one of a few Locke Class Cruisers...

"Sir, extended range radar on the Harriers indicate massive amounts of missiles incoming. they are going more than Mach, sir!"
"What the hell? let me see that......By god your right, quickl, send a message to the Marx, we will need the entire fleet to warm up the CIWS and Sea Sparrows."
"Aye sir, right away."
"And stop shaking man, this is war, pull yourself together!"
"Yes sir!"

Soon the entire fleet, well, it was more a navy than a fleet, really. The entire fleet had gotten all Sea Sparrow controllers several mugs of coffee and pshyched themselves, the CIWS had its own computer to rely on. And then there were the aircraft from the recently arriving carrier, about 20 F-15Js equipped with Sea Sparrows too, 3 each.
The missiles came in several waves, and incredibly fast. The main brunt of the first wave was taken down by CIWS before the missiles could lock on, also the F-15s managed to get a few with some sporty maneourves. The next wave was more deadly, as they had better radar information. Sea Sparrows were flying everywhere, some even colliding in mid-air. A couple of hulls were sunk during that, and then three more in the final wave. Luckily, the only damaged ships were a Leviathon and a Thunder Child. But naturally the missiles didnt actually affect them, as their armour shrugged off the relatively light 200KG warhead.

OOC:
Losses from BrahMos strike:
Sunk:
HDS Invincible Premier - Thatcher Class Destroyer
HDS Intelligent Victim - Thatcher Class Destroyer
HDS Supplier of Victory - Sacremento Class Supply Ship
HDS Heavy Assault - Locke Class Cruiser
HDS Bliss - Africa Class Minelayer
Damaged:
HDS Andrey Zaitzev - Leviathon Class Dreadnought
HDS Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Battleship

IC:

BT + PN Joint Fleet
Shortly after the message from PN Forces, Smith replied.

Ally,
I advise you join me on the bridge of this ship,
so we can discuss this more freely and without
any ears around that shouldnt be. I will send
over a few Merlins if you want, and drastically
increase the CAP for your short flight.
Thankyou,
Commander Glenn Smith
HDS Karl Marx

The Entire Fleet was now ready for another battle, as they had just witnessed the sinking of five other their ships but a few hours ago. The death of many would come...

IC:
Michaels returned the message:
Your plan is agreeable. We shall also launch 105 MiG-29s to aid in CAP over our meeting. Please understand that while I trust your sailors and pilots to do their duties, I can't ask anyone from Bree Tonia to give their life protecting mine. Together, the combined CAP should be enough to repel any airborne invaders until more planes can be launched. Please land your Merlins on the fore helipad of the PNN Destiny. Michaels out.

Half an hour later, Admiral Michaels boarded Smith's Merlin, and was on his way to the flagship of the BT fleet.
[ooc: I'll pause here, in case anyone wants to try something stupid. Otherwise, BT, you can start the RP with Michaels aboard and on your bridge.]

[In artic ocean 11 nuclear attack subs stalk BT's fleet silently 1700 meters below the surface]

"theyre stopped now. apperantly they look lie theyre waiting for someone or something."

"Good. turn all sound operations off and wait to see what happens next."
[a carrier fleet and a landing fleet arrive at the same time west of BT's combined navy.]
"do we know where the opponent's a navies are?"
"yes sir, theyre just directly on top of some friendly subs."

"keep about 400 miles to their west and drop off reinforcements for Rs18 there."

"aye sir, but this would put them aover 450 miles from rs 18."

"drop off only as many as we can fit in vehicles then."
[soldiers in various tracked vehicles deploy toward RS18.]
[anti-naval missle batteries deploy behind RS18.]
[Another load is dropped off at RS18 by AN 225 taking the long way around to avoid enemy fire. tanks, bmp 2s and soldiers.]
[150 fighter craft land at RS18, taking the long way around.]
{Ill adjust these numbers after you guys give me a final count of how many ships and what types left in your navies planning to attack RS18}

You already have my fleets posted... the 1st and 2nd Expeditionary Fleets will be made available for the assault, as will heavy air support as needed.
[ooc: BT, where are you?]

{{OOC: I was at my dads for the night sorry lol.
Also, i'll post the make-up of my fleet, to get an idea LD just add these ships onto PNs fleet and youll have the attacking force.

2x Invincible Assault Carrier
2x Nicholas Kerenksy Heavy Carrier
32x Thatcher Destroyer
26x Spruance Destroyer
15x Locke Heavy Cruiser
4x Thunder Child Battleship
2x Leviathon Super-Battleship
50x Sacremento Class Supply Ship
10x T-AO 187 Fleet Replenishment Oiler
12x AOE-6 Fast Combat Stores Ship
15x Africa Minelayer
14x Romero SSGN
4x Typhoon Class SSBN
8x SeaWolf Class SSN
10x Virginia SSN

Ive got to go out now and buy a new hard drive for my new PC, ill RP the meeting on the bridge when I get back.}}

OOC: Sorry i haven't been posting much, i've had exams and the PC is playing up.

IC:
Bree Tonia, the Type 88 Cruisers are sailing with your fleet. So far, you haven't asked for assistance so we'll stand our ground and defened ourselves and your fleet when nesessary.

Admiral Sir Alan West

damn lucky man. i'm still running a P.O.S. 466mhz celeron with 13 gigs of hdd space and a 8mb rage pro turbo video card with 96mb of pc 100mhz ram.

anyway, i think my base is screwed unless i move forces into the area as follows so here goes...

[1 navy in area dropping off forces, waiting of further orders]
5 Project 1143.7 Ul'yanovsk Class carriers
10 Sovietsky Soyuz Class (Project 23) modified to fire guided weapons Dreadnoughts
25 Stalingrad Class (Project 82) modified to fire guided weapons Battle Cruisers
30 Project 1144 Orlan Class NATO : Kirov Cruisers
15 Project 1123 Kondor ClassNATO : Moskva Helicopter Cruisers
55 Project 956 Sarich Class NATO : Sovremmenny Destroyers
85 Project 1154 Yastreb Class Frigates
100 Project 1833 Berezina Class Fleet support
15 Project 945A Kondor Class NATO : Sierra II SSN{plus 11 hiding under your ships}
5 Project 885 Yasen Class NATO : Granay SSGN
3 Project 667BDRM Delfin Class NATO : Delta IV SSBN
2 Project 941 Akula Class NATO : Typhoon SSBN
30 Fearless Class Ampibious transports
[20000 troops in 250 T90s, 400 BMP-2s 300 S-400 SAM trucks and tracked trucks launch toward RS18, landing 450miles west to avoid BT's combined fleet..]
[5000 troops, 100 T90s, 150 BMP-2s and 100 anti ship missle PJ10 launchers.]

HMS Chester

The warfare operater turned to the captain with a worried look on his face.

"Sir, there is a huge concentration of ampibious transports at the northern quadrant. Whether they are enemy or not is inconclusive."

The Captain scorned at the radar screen. He was furious, the new SAMPSON radar systems had been playing up and had been giving incorrect readings. Sometimes ships didn't appear when they should do and it didn't class enemy ships as enemies.

"Blasted lump of crap!!! We don't know who's our ally and who's not. Are you sure that you can't confirm those ships Commandar?"

"Negative sir, visual contact or allied confirmation only, sir".

"Send the HMS Davidson to intercept. Contact the Bree Tonia Fleet Commander and ask him for confirmation on the radar signals. I don't want to go sailing into a fleet that is 50x our size and is our enemy".

"Aye, sir, sending to the Fleet Commander."

Fleet Commander of BT fleet. Radar noise detected. Unable to confirm enemy. Please confirm. HMS CHESTER

OOC: Sorry ive been away, was hung up with RL stuff.

IC:

On the bridge of the Karl Marx

"Greetings Admiral, I am grateful you took my offer up to visit this ship, she's a beauty isnt she?"

OOC: PN You continue, you can make the conv about me saying I like big guns and etcetera.
IC:

"Sir, incoming comm from Stevid ships!"
"Put me through"

Fleet Commander of BT fleet. Radar noise detected. Unable to confirm enemy. Please confirm. HMS CHESTER

Reply
Ships do not appear on our array. Must be long range pickups. Will deploy AEW+ASW aircraft to investigate.

"Aye, that she is."
"I find a sense of security, sitting on top of a ship with guns as big as these."
"I know what you mean, commander. As I'm sure you noticed, I arrived on a Thunder Child... not at all small. In the event of an attack on Pacific Northwesteria, I even get to play with some Leviathons."
"I see we share the same views, then. Let us move on to business."
"Lets. You invited me here, and I agreed to come, to discuss what to do about this apparent military or research base in the area. Some of my young Lieutenants want to blow it to high heaven, but my more seasoned Captains are in favor of probing it with infantry, to attempt capture. What do you suggest?"

OOC: I need something more to work off of than "I like big guns". This is a discussion... I need your opinions to be posted.

"Sir, we have a single ship, capital class heading our way, advise."

"Go west full speed. hug the coast about 2 miles off. full speed. get weapons online. avoid if possible."

"aye sir."

OOC: Sorry PN Ill see now:
IC:

"Well, tactically speaking the base means nothing to us, we have the OMP base but a few hundred miles south and constant patrols in the area. Invading it might turn something up but I dont see how we might gain from it. I am not sure whether total bombardment is necessary because of the lives lost, What are your thoughts, as an Admiral, Admiral?"

IC:
Admiral Michaels was thoughtful. "Hmmm... it all depends on our goals here. If it poses no threat, and we don't know of any advantage, then simply leaving would be the proper course of action. However, we can rule that out, judging by how earnestly it was defended. There must be something in that base. If we perceive it only as a threat, we should destroy it. But again, something valuable to the defenders must be inside. And clearly, we must assume that there is a threat, because it's doubtful that their fleet was the only thing protecting it. So there it is: dangerous and valuable. Do you follow?"
"I believe I do, Admiral. Please continue."
"So, what do you do with something that's dangerous and valuable? You disable it and take it away. Do you have any EMP devices available in your fleet? I mean, independent of nukes. We don't want fallout."
"I'm uncertain, Admiral, I shall check"
please fill in the answer
"If so, we could knock out their electronics, deliver a few precision strikes from ships and aircraft, and then invade with infantry and special ops. What do you think?"

]11 Sierra 2 SSn meet up with tthe rest of the sub fleet at 1750 meters 5knots per hour]
{sub fleet to suprise attack main fleet}
26 Project 945A Kondor Class NATO : Sierra II SSN
5 Project 885 Yasen Class NATO : Granay SSGN
3 Project 667BDRM Delfin Class NATO : Delta IV SSBN
2 Project 941 Akula Class NATO : Typhoon SSBN
[36 subs inch closer and closer to the fleet, it's noise drowned out by the spin of the hundreds of propellers in the water and the ocean background nosie]
"equip chemical and conventional warheads on the cruise missles."

"aye sir."

"Range?"

"25000 meters from the SSN/SSBNs and 80 kilometers form us{SSGNs}"

"Tell them to get in range of 17000 meters and fire, largest ships first."


"aye sir"

"fire 1 wave conventional, followed by 1 wave chemical and repeat at their anti submarine ships."

{interrupt during this time and ill change the number of weapons fired}

[5 cruise missles fire on largest ships in fleet carrying conventional warheads]
[24 torpedoes fire on fleet]
[5 cruise missles fire on largest ships in fleet carrying chemical warheads]
[24 torpedoes fire on fleet]
[5 cruise missles fire on largest ships in fleet carrying conventional warheads]
[24 torpedoes fire on fleet]
[5 cruise missles fire on largest ships in fleet carrying chemical warheads]
[24 torpedoes fire on fleet]

OOC: Sorry LD, But there is no way in hell 25 odd subs would get within 200 miles of the fleet. There is masses of our subs around it, far enough out as to be able to use sonar effectively as is common sense, not to mention how your subs have to go close to the surface to launch, meaning our ships would almost definetly see you and, well, there wouldnt be any subs left to be honest.
Although if you still want to go ahead with that attack sure. But watch out for serious retaliation. And remember, I owe you a nuke.

IC:

"Admiral unfortunately we have no EMP missiles within our fleet. My XO seems to think we could get them flown out to us and they might be here within 3 days."
"We havent got that much time, Commander. If we leave it that long they could really dig themselves in."
"It must be decided then. I will commence aerial guided bombardment from my planes. I believe it is crucial to send out a reconnasiance wing first though. To know what to hit."
"Wise idea Commander. I will consult my own Officers and see what we shall do. I thank you for your time."
"Not a problem, Admiral."

OOC: PN Jump in here.

OOC: He's right. My SSNs would have reduced your sub fleet to unsalvageable debris if you had brought it that close. Not to mention ASW helos, etc. Believe me, subs pose a big threat to a carrier fleet. They're not going to go into hostile territory without defenses.

IC:
"I see. Well, have it sent over. We'll start our plan without the EMP, but if there are delays, it would be good to have it on hand then. If you wish, my forces will take care of the bombardment (although you may point out targets if you wish) as we do not have a sizeable force to send in on the ground. I feel it would only be fair..."
"Sounds acceptable, Admiral. I see what you mean about the EMP... having it as a backup would always be good. I'll have it sent over right away. It's bad news about your lack of invasion forces. Why is this? Surely, with a fleet of this size..."
"Pacific Northwesteria does not project land power. We have so far found no reason to invade another country with our own troops. Almost our entire land army is a civil defense force, trained only to defend PN itself. What mobile forces we do have are highly trained and specialized, and we don't use them for frontal assaults like this one."
"::sigh::, I understand, Admiral. Fine, you take care of the aerial bombardment... we'll send targets to your command post as soon as we find them."
"That's a deal. I'll get the birds in the air."

Over the course of the next few minutes, the following planes took to the sky:
160 Su-33s
100 Su-34s
350 MiG-29s (escort)
50 F-109Ds
Also, the DD-1As (OOC: from previous posts) had been rearmed and refueled, and would also drop ordinance on the base.

The fighters and bombers in the air are equipped with HARM missiles, meaning that if a hostile radar installation on the surface tries to lock on, the HARM will follow the radar beam straight back to the source. Before the SAM gets a chance to fire. (OOC: a la Baghdad ca. 1999)

The planes are fed targeting coordinates, as ever, by a combination of command and control and DD-1B recon planes constantly surveying the scene. Now, BT recon would also be fed into the targeting computers.

"Ok. We're a 'go'. Do you have targets for me?"

{alright ill take them back.}

3 websites all differ on ranges for HARM. 1 says 20 miles, 1 says 30+ miles and 1 says 80 miles? which is it? also somewhere, it said harms cant correct corse in midair if a crew turns off radar and displaces to another location. True or not?

Also, i need to know how far out the planes are from my base.

ill rp after some details.

also remember, the S-400 is a anti aircraft and anti missle syastem with 400Km(passive or active homing) ,200km(S300 Extended Range Missle, compatable with S400 system, active homing) 120km (smaller MR active radar system with projected .9 kill rate for aircraft.) range and can use passive as well as active homing so turning on radar on 1 of the trucks only once or twice for a few seconds is enough to find the general location to fire the passive homing missles. consider your range and my aa missle range as well as my antiship defenses(200 mile radius or around that number) when considering how far your planes take off from.

[Responses:
1. I don't know the range of a HARM, however, make it towards the high end (or higher) because that is old technology and Pacific Northwesteria has been pumping money into r&d. Also, it seems like it all depends on the missile. You should be able to have a missile that can go any distance, just it gets heavier. Call it 100 miles, to be fair.
2. As far as I know, HARM missiles work by following radar back to the source. If the radar goes away (retargeting shouldn't have an effect unless the angle varied enough) it should become unguided, flying at whatever angle it was at when the radar turned off. Meaning directly at the radar installation. However, accuracy would be greatly decreased due to wind and other factors. However, this can fire before you even have a lock. In most cases, the installation is destroyed before a lock is ever achieved. Meaning that yes, you could get a brief image of my planes, but then your installation might die and your missiles would be fired blind. And missiles, especially from that range, can't possibly have a 90% kill percentage. From that range, a fighter jet could get back out of range before the missile arrived. Also, from that range, passive homing isn't going to work very well. Planes notice incomings, and alter course. The missiles never get close enough to establish a lock. Military things like this are very rarely as mathematical as all that.
3. My planes took off maybe 400 miles (640 km) from your base (at least from the carriers). The DD-1 As and Bs (by they way, they're WAY too high to kill without really good active radar) took off from Pacific Northwesteria and the OMP base in the Indian Ocean.


BT, any response to my previous post?]

[at base radar installation]
"uh, im picking up a bunch of bogies 640km off southwest 32*."

"confirm hostile."

...
...
"Uh sir seems like theyre hostile. not responding to our hails. advise."

"distance?"

"500km and closing at 1000km per hour."
{i googled F-109d, it dosent exist. the F-109 program was scrapped in 1960.}
"F-109 Bell 1960 supersonic 8-jet VTOL fighter-bomber (F3L)"
"what do we have avaliable?"

"300 s-400. each loaded with 2 LR-P/A 1 MLR A and 1 MR A"

"fire SAMs when at 300km, scramble planes."

"yes sir"

[100 mig 31 and 75 su37 take air armed with 2 AA-12 and 1 PJ-10 brahmos)

[300 S400LR take air on active]
[10 minutes later..]
"theyre at 180km and seem to be releasing some sort of radar tracking missile sir."

"fire last batch on passive, turn off radar and displace."

[300 s-400lr fire on passive]

[30 vehicles get destroyed from shrapnel due to not displacing far enough.]

"Radar on, guide the missles now."

[S-400 turn on active radars again to guide missles]{assume lower kil rate for
this one cause i used passive}

"Eagle squadron has radar contact of enemy bogies, request permission to fire."

"Fire at will, boys."

"fox 1 and 2 launched"
[350 AA-12 short ranged fire and forget anti air missles fire]

{I'll calculate all casualties for my side after this airstrike is over.}

1. The F-109D is a Nationstates plane. It's not a real plane. Most of them aren't. Some are.
2. Even your missiles that you launched while guided arrive completely unguided unless they have backup passive systems. Perhaps you don't understand... I fire before you do when you lock on to these planes, unless I'm out of range, and you RPed my firing missiles, so apparently I'm not. If you cut off the radar before my missiles get there, your missiles aren't guided all the way. If you keep the tracking going, my missiles hit first, disable your radar, and the missiles still come in half blind. I'll RP now, or at least try to... would you be so kind as to let me know how many of things your launched and what I'm up against?

IC:
"Boys, it looks like we're not welcome here! Can you believe that?"
"Naw, Captain, I was expecting a red carpet!"
"Well, boys, as you can see we've got incoming planes and missiles. You know what to do."
"Gotcha, captain."
Missiles were being fired upwards at them, and bandits were coming in hot. The MiG-29s broke off to engage, as did the F-109Ds. Together they made up a force of 400 fighters, and an opposing force of fewer than 200 shouldn't be much of a challenge.
The enemy seemed to be fiddling around with their active/passive radars, because the missiles were acting strangely. Using the best maneuvers available to them in their slightly-larger aircraft, the pilots of the bombers managed to dodge most of the missiles. However, due to the shear numbers, many planes were hit. Most that were hit went down, but some managed to limp back to feet wet.
Losses:
43 Su-33s,
19 Su-34s
14 MiG-29s

Return fire:
The remaining bombers, consisting of
117 Su-33s
81 Su-34s
All of the refueled DD-1 As

Dropped ordinance on the prepared defenses. The DD-1Bs, lurking above, had pinpointed the locations of the SAM batteries because of the multiple salvoes that were launched. Bombs rained down on the base's defenses with deadly precision, avenging their lost brothers in arms.

The 50 F-109Ds (my link to the storefront died with the old NS boards, sorry) and the 336 remaining MiG-29s swarmed around the enemy fighters, trying to make it impossible for any surviving installations on the ground to be sure they don't have a friendly lock. (RP the dogfight if you wish... I suggest we both take losses and retreat. You're not going to wipe them out, and your fighters aren't getting to my bombers without wiping out my fighters. The bombers drop their loads and return to base, with losses, and the fighters return as well because they have nothing there to protect. Take it where you want, though.)

{NO OFFENSE, BUT......
NO WAY 950 missiles, using the BEST REAL WORLD technology the world has right now takes down 76 fighters. yes they are PASSIVE & ACTIVE SEEKING A more respectable number should be about 350 to say the least. THE BEST real world TECH, DESIGNED TO SHOOT DOWN GEN 5 Fighters cant destroy some older GEN3 and GEN4 equipment even even at .1 effiency is total godmod.}

my first wave of missiles fired out of range for the Harms at 300km or 150 miles. this guided them all the way. Then after the first salvo hit, you fired harms at me so i fired a salvo of passive radar set of missiles and turned off radar and displaced. then the HARMSs exploded, unguided. after the harms exploded, damaging 30 trucks radar arrays, the remaining 270 trucks turned on radar again and guided the missiles to the targets.

(yeah the 30 remaining missiles are passive/active. they are designed to support both and locks to CW/normal/PHASED ARRAY radar. .1-.2 kill is about right (3-6 downed))

{THE S-400 is BETTER than the Patriot. It was designed to shoot down future stealth aircraft(F-22,Mig 41,F35, Eurofighter, they wouldve savaged your non stealth aircraft.)

{{you should've lost a lot more planes. 600 missiles fired should achieve at least a .4-.5 kill rate according to russian press release, it should be .7 for the 400Km version. about 240-300 downed is more expected at .4-.5 kill.}}

Also the AA-12 is new MR(120km) missiles. they have all the capabilities of the S-400 except they are slightly faster.

{{The 350 AA-12 is comparable to the Sidewinder in capability. about .3 kill rate is expected even with chaff/flares deployed. about 110-120 shouldve been downed.}}

ill assume the 109 is similar to a F-15
(try to use real planes next time. this is a modern war tech RP)

My 200 fighters got to your flight after the 2 waves of missiles.

{{dont forget i still have 270 MLR(200km s-300 tech) Active missles and 270 MR(120km s-400 tech) Active missiles in my 270 launchers)}}

what bombs are you using?

[Fighters]

{{Mig 31s outclass your Mig-29 carriers. the Mig-29 carrier based craft had deminished combat abilities in the process of converting it for carrier flight in the late 70s.}}
[55 mig31 and 50 SU37 fly on]
"Sir they've taken heavy losses. Advise"

"Missiles left?"

"None all have been fired."

"Losses, um seems like around 70 down, probably a lot more unless they have some sort of secrect weapon ro something."

"WHAT?? 70??? I paid 3 Million per missile to get less than a .1 Kill RATE????, Break off and attack carriers with PJ-10"

"Confirmed"

"firing and returning to base"
[105 PJ-10 supersonic stealth anti ship missiles fly yoward carriers.
[A second wave of 50 Mig 41 and 50 mig-31 launch with 3 AA-11 each.]
(AA-11 are helmet homing, they target whatever is in the helmet hud of the pilot meaning they can target planes at any angle. SR about 100km only)

"Fire at will fox 1,2, and 3"
[ 270 SAMS FIRE ON THE FIGHTERS]
"All missiles released"

[Assume it's a 1500lb GBU type normal bomb.]
"Casualties report!"

"not sure. preliminary numbers are pretty high, expect a few thousand, no underground facilities damaged."

"enemy downed?"

"Not sure either."

"Dammit get me some info"

[Lost]
1 of 8(most are underground) Barracks
2 of 3 warehouses with prototypes
4 of 4 Nurseries
2 of 3 Hospital
1 of 2 Command center
all but 4 Research Centers
7500 troops
300 aviators
100 T-90
212 BP-2
100 Mig31
20 MIG-41
25 SU-37

[Remaining](most are in underground bunkers/warehouses/barracks)
42500 troops
300 aviators
538 BMP-2
350 T-90
100 Mig 41
120 Mig-32
80 SU-37
800 MI-28
3 ICBM Nukes
2 ICBM SARIN-VX

OOC:
1. From hundreds of kilometers away, missiles aren't as effective because by the time they get to the target, they are low on fuel, and the target has had a minute or so to get ready to dodge them.
2. You're assuming I don't fire more HARMs when you turn you radar on again.
3. I'm sorry, I couldn't post accurate losses because this is such a confusing situation, and I'm not used to the specific tech you are using.
4. My bombers got hit pretty bad, because they were on a bombing run. My fighters, not so much, because they were free to move out of the range of the missiles, and are much more maneuverable.
5. Anti-stealth means nothing. That's just better radar. If it's heat-seeking, it wouldn't affect it at all. It's the maneuverability of the craft (thus my fighters took less damage) and the speed of the missile.
6. Almost nobody limits themselves to existing ship classes and plane designs. That's half the fun of NS, to design and build your own. These are modern tech, meaning they could be built. Doesn't necessarily mean that they have been.
7. A formula can never fully account for everything. There's a reason why they actually fight battles. "Kill rates" depend on a lot more than just the missile you are using.
8. My DD-1 As are dropping JDAMs, 4 per plane (leaving some left)
9. Unless we can reconsile the differences in our RP styles, we may have to cancel this RP. Your constant use of rigid formulae get on my nerves, and my lack of the same gets on yours. You also tend to jump down people's throats, which I hope I do not, but I'm not really impartial so I can't judge.

OOC:

This RP has gone down guys. You know, I was just in the middle of making a long RPing post last night when i realized I didnt know shit about what was going on because of all the numberwanking. In my own RP. Not a sausage. Thats wrong.

Im gonna have to cancel this RP now, because the flaming is going to soon accelerate and I hate flaming, the torture of the internet.


So you two can continue if you want. But if a mod locks this for flames, im not going to be held responsible.

yeah, ive lost intrest too.

Agreed. Too bad BT... it was looking good. I'll see what I could have done differently...