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Seeking economic trade (Earth BC)

Tanthan
29-11-2004, 21:48
Currently the Empire of Tanthan, located on modern-day Austria is experiencing a economical birth. Since the resources of the nation are special and can be key sources in building of any empire a search for traders in distant lands.

Natural resources include:

Iron Ore
Crude Oil
Natural Gas
Timber
Magnesite
Lignite
Stone

Tanthan is searching for Slaves, animals, lime stone, gold, copper, zinc, nickel, technology and silk, sand, olive oil, salt, silver. Though large amounts of cheap timber, stone and sand, our wishes and can easily be traded for.

Egypt, Turkey, Spain, France, UK, Ireland and Italy all have vast amounts of resources we require.
Kyanges
29-11-2004, 21:58
OOC:

Were all the things that you're asking for really readily available during the time period that you're in? In the same purities, and amounts? Things like crude oil, I don't know whether they had exactly the value that it does now.

But as I've siad in another thread, my knowledge of ancient times is rather limited. So I fully accept the fact that I may be off on this.
Male Sexual Love
29-11-2004, 22:05
Currently the Empire of Tanthan, located on modern-day Austria is experiencing a economical birth. Since the resources of the nation are special and can be key sources in building of any empire a search for traders in distant lands.

Natural resources include:

Iron Ore
Crude Oil
Natural Gas
Timber
Tungsten
Magnesite
Lignite
Cement
Stone

Tanthan is searching for Slaves, animals, lime stone, gold, copper, zinc, nickel, technology and silk, sand, olive oil, salt, silver. Though large amounts of cheap timber, stone and sand, our wishes and can easily be traded for.

Egypt, Turkey, Spain, France, UK, Ireland and Italy all have vast amounts of resources we require.

But as we are an Oceanic realm, minerals and fossil fuels are plentiful. The slaves we have are convicts. We do not believe in pampering criminals, we work their law-breaking asses off. We have several grades of slave, servant and indenture classes. Only the slaves and indentures are for sale or trade, and the indentures are limited to 7 years of contracted servitude. People are indentured to pay off debts they can't pay: We have no patience with those who creditbility is untrustworthy. Our citizens either maintain good credit or they get indentured. It's that simple.

But I digress. If you can come up with a better offer, we may have a chance at a good Trade Relationship.
Tanthan
30-11-2004, 02:22
We will pay a pound of gold for every slave that you wish to bring us, no one can ever have too many slaves. The servants we are willing to pay a pound of gold for every 5 of them.

We will even go to pick up the people if you wish and gladly bring back the servants when you say so.

However you must be in Earth BC to do so.
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 03:42
bump for Earth BC people to see
Kyanges
01-12-2004, 03:49
The Republic of Kyanesia believes that a trade agreement between our two great nations would be mutualy beneficial. Our region is rich in natural resources, and we can easily prepare the most of the materials you seek for transport. What our traders seek however, is what you could offer us.
Blacktower
01-12-2004, 03:51
I dont beleive they had cement until the late 1800's.....
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 03:53
Currently since we have no direct access to the Mediterranean Sea Tanthan must take control of Slovenia for a large port. Other wise it would have to be trade convoys of merchants going back and forth over the land and passing through many countries along the way.
San Lucia
01-12-2004, 03:54
The Kingdom of San Lucia is willing to begin open trade with your nation. Our nation would be willing to buy 5000 tons Iron Ore at 20 cents a poundand 20 million barrels of oil for 25.00 USD a barrel. We will countinue to send our merchant vessels to your ports for your products.


- Henrich von Kompenhiester
Minister of Finance
San Lucia
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 03:54
I dont beleive they had cement until the late 1800's.....

Oh dang your right, let me fix that, I took that from an encyclopedia on natural resources, I wonder why it had that in.... fixing.
Kyanges
01-12-2004, 03:56
I dont beleive they had cement until the late 1800's.....

They didn't have it in exactly the same form that we do today, but they definately had a type of mixture that was VERY similar to our modern Cement. But it's more of a formula than anything though, So I think that Tanthan would be better of making it himself. Cheaper that way I think.
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 03:58
The Kingdom of San Lucia is willing to begin open trade with your nation. Our nation would be willing to buy 5000 tons Iron Ore at 20 cents a poundand 20 million barrels of oil for 25.00 USD a barrel. We will countinue to send our merchant vessels to your ports for your products.


- Henrich von Kompenhiester
Minister of Finance
San Lucia

As much as we would like to do this our time periods prevent this from happening. As stated before this is for Earth BC. Your welcome to join it though. Here's the thread, but it is in anicent times.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369

When you get your area and are accepted in we can trade then, Earth BC is seperate from your modern tech NS though. Just you have to keep track of mroe stuff to be in both.
Blacktower
01-12-2004, 04:02
They didn't have it in exactly the same form that we do today, but they definately had a type of mixture that was VERY similar to our modern Cement. But it's more of a formula than anything though, So I think that Tanthan would be better of making it himself. Cheaper that way I think.

it was a clay/straw mixture similiar to what Bricks are made of today. It was sturdy enough to make smaller constructions out of, but would wear over time. and eventually crumble. marble, wood, and Limestone were much better building materials
imported_ViZion
01-12-2004, 04:03
ViZion, being located in Spain, Portugal, and France, is more than willing to open trade with your nation.

OOC:
MY RESOURCES:
http://www.indexmundi.com/france/natural_resources.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/spain/natural_resources.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/portugal/natural_resources.html

Fish, forests (cork), iron ore, copper, tin, tungsten, silver, gold, marble, clay, salt, hydropower, coal, lignite, copper, lead, uranium, mercury, pyrites, magnesite, fluorspar, sepiolite, kaolin, potash, arable land, bauxite, zinc, uranium, antimony, arsenic, potash, feldspar, gypsum, and timber.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYTHING IS REPEATED. Thanks!
Kyanges
01-12-2004, 04:08
it was a clay/straw mixture similiar to what Bricks are made of today. It was sturdy enough to make smaller constructions out of, but would wear over time. and eventually crumble. marble, wood, and Limestone were much better building materials

OOC:

Thanks for the specifics. And I agree with your opinion on building materials.

Tanthan, are you just ignoring me or something? Some sort of a grudge or something? You seemed fine in school. *Slighty concerned*
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 04:11
They didn't have it in exactly the same form that we do today, but they definately had a type of mixture that was VERY similar to our modern Cement. But it's more of a formula than anything though, So I think that Tanthan would be better of making it himself. Cheaper that way I think.

Given it wasn't todays strong form, but it would be of a rocky mixture that isn't like that of ours. We don't transport it around in bags of crushed rock and powder that will work with just adding water. It would be weaker of course. The technology to make it has been around for thousands of years because of the mix of ceramic and metallic components of it.

Weapons can be made of cermet and stuff, but it would take higher temperatures that are only possible in dedicated places with larger hotter kilns running on magnesium or another high temperture burn, like thermite.
Kyanges
01-12-2004, 04:14
Given it wasn't todays strong form, but it would be of a rocky mixture that isn't like that of ours. We don't transport it around in bags of crushed rock and powder that will work with just adding water. It would be weaker of course. The technology to make it has been around for thousands of years because of the mix of ceramic and metallic components of it.

Weapons can be made of cermet and stuff, but it would take higher temperatures that are only possible in dedicated places with larger hotter kilns running on magnesium or another high temperture burn, like thermite.

No, the cement was EXACTLY the same. New information has just come to my attention. The ancient Greeks had cement mixture just like that of modern day. They even built a large statue in 900 B.C. out of the stuff. We are't as advanced as you might think lol.
Tanthan
01-12-2004, 04:16
ViZion, being located in Spain, Portugal, and France, is more than willing to open trade with your nation.

OOC:
MY RESOURCES:
http://www.indexmundi.com/france/natural_resources.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/spain/natural_resources.html
http://www.indexmundi.com/portugal/natural_resources.html

Fish, forests (cork), iron ore, copper, tin, tungsten, silver, gold, marble, clay, salt, hydropower, coal, lignite, copper, lead, uranium, mercury, pyrites, magnesite, fluorspar, sepiolite, kaolin, potash, arable land, bauxite, zinc, uranium, antimony, arsenic, potash, feldspar, gypsum, and timber.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYTHING IS REPEATED. Thanks!

Zinc, Copper, Lead, Marble, Clay, Saly, and timber are all needed, which items do you wish to have from Tanthan?

OOC: some of those are there, but can only be found and used with modern means.
Male Sexual Love
02-12-2004, 02:07
We will pay a pound of gold for every slave that you wish to bring us, no one can ever have too many slaves. The servants we are willing to pay a pound of gold for every 5 of them.

We will even go to pick up the people if you wish and gladly bring back the servants when you say so.

However you must be in Earth BC to do so.

Doesn't make much sense, since you're the one who wanted traders from far-flung lands.

Plus, I haven't picked an 'Earth' yet.
Male Sexual Love
02-12-2004, 02:11
Currently since we have no direct access to the Mediterranean Sea Tanthan must take control of Slovenia for a large port. Other wise it would have to be trade convoys of merchants going back and forth over the land and passing through many countries along the way.


I've got access to the Med. I told you, we're an AQUATIC realm. We live in one (no, I ain't saying which) of the Atlantic trenches. We can deliver to any shore anywhere on the planet.
Male Sexual Love
02-12-2004, 02:13
Oh dang your right, let me fix that, I took that from an encyclopedia on natural resources, I wonder why it had that in.... fixing.

They DID have adobe, though.
Male Sexual Love
02-12-2004, 02:22
it was a clay/straw mixture similiar to what Bricks are made of today. It was sturdy enough to make smaller constructions out of, but would wear over time. and eventually crumble. marble, wood, and Limestone were much better building materials


I believe I already mentioned adobe...which, if covered with a powered lime/water solution (whitewash) will last for centuries.
Harlesburg
02-12-2004, 10:53
it was a clay/straw mixture similiar to what Bricks are made of today. It was sturdy enough to make smaller constructions out of, but would wear over time. and eventually crumble. marble, wood, and Limestone were much better building materials
Seriously dont disrespect cement it is what Rome was built on and i thought it was Concrete cement the real deal man

The recipe got lost but rediscovered in 1800'ish im sure the Romans had Concrete but its your nation you dont want it eh
Harlesburg
02-12-2004, 11:53
Greetings i am Nedlandsic Hollandic of the Hollandic tribefrom many miles away we wish to exchange goods with you and your peoples.
please accept these gifts (Offers a pure Copper Shield adorned with Gold leaf embossed on it various gems around the outside a Silver Boss and two Snakes eating each others tails embossed in Gold around the Boss.

Hollandic resources are mainly based around these following goods:
Fish,Timber,cork,iron ore,copper,tin,silver,Gold,clay,saltcoal,lead,mercury and arable land.

Our peoples are master fishermen and are well adept at handling the coastal waters of Pretannica and Belgica.
The people of Hollandic are masters of weapons and Armour showing a namazing level of care into each weapon produced.
Copper and Tin mines are in abundence and are located in the many rolling hills which are themselves surround by marshes and vast forrests packed with tall standing Oak trees an excellent wood for building.

The soil consists of a fertile clay that is rich in minerals


(OOC)Im looking this stuff up to see if its useful in tis time(Seeing as me and Vizion are similar wed have the same resorces mostly)magnesite, fluorspar, sepiolite, kaolin, potash, arable land, bauxite, zinc.antimony, arsenic, potash, feldspar, gypsum, and timber.lignite pyrites tungsten
Harlesburg
12-12-2004, 01:06
Bump
Blacktower
12-12-2004, 12:10
I've got access to the Med. I told you, we're an AQUATIC realm. We live in one (no, I ain't saying which) of the Atlantic trenches. We can deliver to any shore anywhere on the planet.

no you do not. weve been over this.
Harlesburg
18-12-2004, 02:58
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