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Ooc- Alt World RP discussion. "The Fall of the Mississippian Empire"

Decisive Action
28-11-2004, 23:08
Okay, here is the scenario.

It's an alternate world, one where Roger Fabus and Sam MacDonald have decided to team up to divide the world amongst themselves.


The RP starts in the time frame of 2014-2017 at the end of "The Great War" as it will be called later by Mississippian historians. The war itself is a flashback.

The main Aggressor powers, Kahta, Decisive Action, and one more power yet to be determined, have just signed unconditional surrenders after nearly 10-12 years of war, and now many are fleeing the various nations.

The war itself was started when Mississippian troops invaded and conquered the entire eastern half of the Old USA, and then invaded Canada and Cuba, getting bogged down by the winter of Canada and the disease ridden swamps of Cuba.

The nation with the most "War criminals" seeking to flee to other lands will be Mississippi, naturally, and the RP, after flashing back or while flash backs are still going, will come into the present to show the hunt for various criminals, etc, and the ongoing insurgency in MS by ex-RG, ex-SRG, and other various elements, ultimately resulting in a sort of lenient peace treaty designed to allow the victors to just leave MS and not have to occupy it (They really had no occupation strategy and so were totally unprepared by the insurgency)


I have yet to decide what will happen with the major players


Note, this is just a fun RP, it has no bearing on your nation IC. This is Alternate world. We need a major European nation (or 2 or 3) 1 Asian power, and perhaps 1 South American or African power.


The sides are thus


Grand Fascist Alliance:

1) Decisive Action
(Current real NS figures) + occupied Eastern USA (Population 5 billion, armed forces 100 million)


2) Kahta
(Current real NS figures) + Occupied parrts of Asia (To be determined)


3) Parthia
(Current real NS figures) + Occupied Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Jordan, and Palestine (400 million population, armed forces 40 million)


4) Itinerate Tree Dweller
(Current real NS figures)


League of Free Powers:

1) A Few Rich People
(China) (China= 50 billion population, 3 billion armed forces)


2) Hattia
(England) (England= 200 million population, 10 million armed forces)


3) Avadria
(France= 800 million population, 30 million armed forces)


4)
(Brazil= 5 billion population, 400 million armed forces)


5) Nutropinia
(Canada= 15 billion population, 1 billion armed forces)


6)
(Cuba= 40 million population, 4 million armed forces)




Pro- Mississippian Neutral Powers:

1)
(Russia= 8 billion population, 500 million armed forces)


2) Intinerate Tree Dweller
(Argentina= 300 million population, 20 million armed forces)


3) Doomingsland
(Bolivia= 100 million population, 7 million armed forces)


4) Generic Empire
(Ukraine= 800 million population, 35 million armed forces)


5) Sevaris
(Spain and Portugal) (Spain= 500 million population, 25 million armed forces. Portugal = 100 million population, 5 million armed forces)




Pro- "Free Powers" Neutral Powers:

1)
(Germany= 500 million population, 40 million armed forces)


2)
(Turkey= 300 million population, 20 million armed forces)


3)
(Australia= 400 million population, 25 million armed forces)


4)
(Mexico= 250 million population, 15 million armed forces)





If not enough Rpers (Good RPers) sign up, we will have other players fill in the roles of neutral powers, or just have it written in as we need to write it in. We'll work something out.
A Few Rich People
28-11-2004, 23:16
Well I like to deem my self a good roleplayer (or at least a good writer), but not sure what I would like to do but... tag/interest.
Arenumberg
28-11-2004, 23:21
So you just, on your decision, assume the role of a nation in this alternate timeline?
Ottoman Khaif
28-11-2004, 23:24
May the Ottoman Empire join this rp?
Sevaris
28-11-2004, 23:59
We could be one of the Pro-Mississippi neutrals. Yes, I know that I am not any of the countries you have listed, but I'd still be relevant.
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 00:04
We could be one of the Pro-Mississippi neutrals. Yes, I know that I am not any of the countries you have listed, but I'd still be relevant.


I made Spain and Portugal options, and gave you both, but in this alt world, there is no "sevaris" that controls any land in North America, it's ALT World. This fits in with the conquest of eastern old USA by MS.
Generic empire
29-11-2004, 00:06
If you need a Balkan state you got one right here. I also hold Ukraine as a province.
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 00:09
If you need a Balkan state you got one right here. I also hold Ukraine as a province.


This is an ALT world, so really, anybody can play as any nation, as long as it goes good...

I'll set populations and military statistics shortly.
The Parthians
29-11-2004, 03:04
How about Parthia on Mississippi's side?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
29-11-2004, 03:19
Pro MS, neutral. Are these groupings final, or can they switch during the game?
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 16:20
The main thing with this is, it will start at the end of the war, with the various leaders and other high officials from the pro-MS side, and MS (the losing side) scrambling about trying to get their affairs in order, avoiding partisans, and attempting to escape the victor's justice.

Thus it isn't really important we have the anti-MS powers, as their military actions will all be in flashbacks, what is important is we have some sort of international court player, or something of that sort.
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 16:22
Pro MS, neutral. Are these groupings final, or can they switch during the game?


I assigned you Argentina.

If you want to have had some role in the war, realize it's a flashback about the war, so just write it in and make it work. :)
Praetonia
29-11-2004, 16:28
OOC: England? What happened to the rest of the UK? We are a United Kingdom damnit!!
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 16:32
OOC: England? What happened to the rest of the UK? We are a United Kingdom damnit!!



In my nations history, the UK broke up after 1990 when the last of the groups rebelled. The Scots, Welsh, and Irish all revolted, and the English army, largely clobbered from 1981-1984 in various wars, was in no position to drag the old UK nations back into the UK...


England has thus hated Mississippi ever since MS cost England the Falklands War.
North East Korea
29-11-2004, 16:40
I'd like to have a go as the English - be quite interesting, seeing as how I live here. :)
Decisive Action
29-11-2004, 16:49
I'd like to have a go as the English - be quite interesting, seeing as how I live here. :)


With running the risk of sounding like a jerk, I must say you're new, don't know my nation, my other Rpers, and we don't know you. Thus it probably just wouldn't work out.

This is basically an RP for myself and my RP regulars, those who really know me, and I really know them, so we don't have to bring each other "up to speed" on our nations' histories as we have quite good ideas already.
North East Korea
29-11-2004, 16:52
With running the risk of sounding like a jerk, I must say you're new, don't know my nation, my other Rpers, and we don't know you. Thus it probably just wouldn't work out.

This is basically an RP for myself and my RP regulars, those who really know me, and I really know them, so we don't have to bring each other "up to speed" on our nations' histories as we have quite good ideas already.

Fair enough - no offence taken.

TAG for later reading, anyway.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 00:32
Ooc- I'm eager to start this, we could start and find more specific roles as we go along... ITD do you think you could be both Argentina and Canada without having the different roles and such conflict and etc?
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 00:41
Since we seem to have a general lack of regulars wanting to get into this, I'm going to suggest we all consider taking a role of one of the anti-DA powers, and making sure we can RP fair and square and not get conflicts on interest going... Well anyway, the RP starts with pro-DA powers, myself obviously included, having lost the war, so we can't really alter that.


This only worries me in that we'll be having trials for captured officials, let's not let biases queer that up though, keep conflicts of interest out. This is ALT world anyway, so it doesn't influence your own nation, so no need to "Play to win" so don't even bother, this is "Play for fun" (which is what all RPs should be anyway)


Getting ready to start the IC thread, keep your eyes peeled.
Kahta
30-11-2004, 00:41
bump
Nutropinia
30-11-2004, 00:47
Hey DA can I join in as whatever you place me in.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 00:49
Hey DA can I join in as whatever you place me in.


You're Canada, hope you know a good amount about my nation, it will be up to Canada to go after most of the so-called "War criminals" and ex-regime officials, so make sure you know my factbook link is in my signature, it contains descriptions of my characters and their actions and past deeds, might help you...
Nutropinia
30-11-2004, 00:52
Ok, Sure. I will look it over later.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 00:54
I am going to lay down and sleep for a bit, when I get back around 8:30-9:00 Pm eastern I'll make the first IC post in a new IC thread, and then it will probably be Canada's turn to post... (You'll see from the post what is to be done)
Nutropinia
30-11-2004, 00:55
K.
A Few Rich People
30-11-2004, 00:57
Bah, I cannot pick what to be, put me where you need a nation, anything is fine with me (as its a non "real world" rp).
Doomingsland
30-11-2004, 00:58
Can you put me in as Italy as a Pro-Mississipian neutral guy?
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 01:01
AFRP = China


Doom, I really need for you to be Bolivia, you cool with that?
Doomingsland
30-11-2004, 01:07
Err, sure, I guess. Bolivia's in South America, right? J/K.
A Few Rich People
30-11-2004, 01:13
I got time and can duel role if needed.

PS: I see how you got so important so fast (I recall when you first started...) 'cause you put lotta effort into things (like that factbook, I mostly consist of what i throw together and scribble down =P).
Nutropinia
30-11-2004, 02:34
I can do it. Ignore the last message I deleted it.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 03:03
AOL huddle, who is on there right now? It seems most people here have it more than any other msger, so we should all gather and talk. :D
Nutropinia
30-11-2004, 03:05
Sure, lets talk.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 03:32
Let me clear something up, the Grand Fascist Alliance players are playing using their NS stats, but the other players are using non-current NS nations, indeed just tweaked RL nations with different stats. Except for Sevaris, who is playing as Sevaris but Spain and Portugal Sevaris only.
Hattia
30-11-2004, 06:37
Mind if I take England?
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 06:42
Mind if I take England?


Ok
Avadria
30-11-2004, 06:42
I'll take France I suppose
P3X1299
30-11-2004, 06:43
Hmm. Could I get Germany in the pro-free powers neutral? I've got right around 500m people too! :)
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 06:51
Hmm. Could I get Germany in the pro-free powers neutral? I've got right around 500m people too! :)


Contact me over AOL or something so we can talk first.
Kahta
01-12-2004, 02:49
bump
Sharina
02-12-2004, 05:32
I'd like to post a few comments.

First, I like this concept. It provides a lot of interesting possibilities and opporunities. I love alternate timelines and such, because they're really fun to explore and work with.

Second, I noticed these population figures. They're way too high. China with 50 billion? Russia with 8 billion?

That'd be virtually impossible. I propose that you cut down all population figures by a factor of 10. China has 5 billion, Russia has 800 million, etc. That would be more realistic.

How would you feed over 100 billion people in Earth in 10 - 15 years from now? Or even 50 years? In addition, the resources required to sustain such garguantan populations would be far more than what Earth currently has in regards of raw resources.

Other than these over-inflated population figures, everything else looks excellent! :)
Decisive Action
02-12-2004, 05:35
I'd like to post a few comments.

First, I like this concept. It provides a lot of interesting possibilities and opporunities. I love alternate timelines and such, because they're really fun to explore and work with.

Second, I noticed these population figures. They're way too high. China with 50 billion? Russia with 8 billion?

That'd be virtually impossible. I propose that you cut down all population figures by a factor of 10. China has 5 billion, Russia has 800 million, etc. That would be more realistic.

How would you feed over 100 billion people in Earth in 10 - 15 years from now? Or even 50 years? In addition, the resources required to sustain such garguantan populations would be far more than what Earth currently has in regards of raw resources.

Other than these over-inflated population figures, everything else looks excellent! :)


Ah, but remember, this is not Earth, this NS world is a planet roughly 100 times the size of Jupiter, thus all lands are stretched roughly 100 times their original size, even though they retain their geographic position in reference to their current Earth position.