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Ok, Im going to try to organise this war. Expect this post to be editted thoroughly.

Nations involved:

Agressors:

Psov
Praetonia
Hallad

Any others?

Defenders:

The Upper Congo
Industrial Experiment
Some random n00bs who will most likely be chucked out

Any others?

Industrial Experiment is on Upper congo's side. Dumbass

Leave this thread now, flamer.

If I knew how to do this stuff a little better, like legitly get a military and etc, I'd join, but I don't so I'll just sit back and watch?

I'll join as an aggressor, if thats ok with everyone. I'd like to get a little more experience in wars.

We're not really interested in gaining more nations, there are way too many already.

While I'm interested in keeping it to the nations who posted in the original thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376109), I'm not one to dictate who can and cannot join.

I would still rather keep it to a small group of attentive *COUGH* RPers, though.

The FCD has 5000 neutral peacekeepers in Upper Congo. Unsure about how big part they will play in the conflict though.

Hallad will join Aggresor's side, there is no argument to counter that, he would have joined earlier but was on Vacation

Yeah. I'm on the side of the Liberators.

For reference These are my forces i deployed to Congo, though he never posted his military stats, which i found infinitely annoying, b/c he could post huge amounts of cassualties and i would not know how much he had remaining. I would like him to post his standing army stats.

Republican Foreign Fleet
Udaloy-II Class Guided Missile Destroyer (7)
Long Beach Class Guided Missile Cruiser (10)
Kirov Class Guided Missile Cruiser (5)
Coronado Class Command Ship (2)
Akula-II Class Attack Submarine (4)
Delta-V Class Ballistic Missile Submarine (2)
Kuznetsov Class Aircraft Carrier (1)

1st Foreign Infantry Division (16,700)
equipped
Kalshnikov AK-108
RPK-74N2 Light Machine Gun
M-220 TOW Missile Launcher

2nd Foreign Infantry Division (17,900)
equipped
M4 Carbine
.5 Inch Heavy Machine Gun
Kalashnikov AKS-74U
M-220 TOW Missile Launcher
AT-16 Vikhr

3rd Foreign Infantry Division(15,400)
equipped
M4 Carbine
M60 Machine Gun
Kalashnikov AKS-74U
AT-15 Khrizantema

Republican International Guard (5,000)
equipped
Kalashnikov AK-74M
H&K USP Expert
7.62mm SVDS Dragunov Sniper Rifle
RPG-7

Republican Expeditionary Armour (1,140)
T-90 Main Battle Tank
BMP-4 Fighting Vehicle
T-95 Main Battle Tank
BTR-90 Armoured Personnel Carrier
M6 Bradley Linebacker
Patriot Missile Air Defense System (PAC-2)
High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) w/ TOW
M151 Fast Attack Vehicle

Republican Foreign Battery (387)
M119A1 105mm Lightweight Towed Howitzer
227mm Multiple Launched Rocket System (MLRS)
M110A2 Self-Propelled Howitzer

Expeditionary Support Force(3,500)
M1078 Standard Cargo Truck
XM1091 Fuel/Water Tankers
M4 Command and Control Vehicle
LAV Ambulance (LAV-A)
Armored Medical Treatment Vehicles
Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicles
MK15, Recovery / Wrecker

I have 2,500 troops in TUC, and 120 MBTS. They were helping prevent loyalists regain a foothold, but they're neutral now after the commie massacre. I'm pulling them out, but they might get involved somehow.

My forces that were attacking Upper Congo:

The 8th Airborne Division

15,000 Combatants

Weapons:

AK-108s
MP-448 'Skyph' pistol
RPG-7s
RPK-74s
PKMs
SA-16s


Vehicles:

Desert Raider Halladi Medium Tanks
BMD-3 Airborne Infantry Fighting Vehicles
ASU-85 Airborne Assault Gun
MT-LBu (IV12 series) ACRV M1974 Artillery Command and Reconnaissance Vehicle
2S6M Tunguska Anti-Aircraft Artillery

45th Logistics Brigade

600 Logistics Personell

Vehicles:

LAV Ambulance (LAV-A)
GAZ 39371 Vodnik
M4 Command and Control Vehicle
Light Armored Vehicle-Recoveries (LAV-R)
Volcano Mine Dispenser
XM1091 Fuel/Water Tankers
M992 FAASV Field Artillery Ammunition Supply Vehicles
M1078 Standard Cargo Truck
XM104 Wolverine Heavy Assault Bridge Systems

Ok, to set things straight..... I have 30,000 defenders near the coastline. GHI has equipped us with some 40,000 men but they may be only used in the fighting that will be deeper in the country. You must remember our coastline is only 169 km long. Here is a list of all our cities, which have been heavily fortified.

Madingo Kayes
Pointe Noire
Loubomo
Kayes
Mossendjo
Djambala
Oyo
Owando
Quesso
Impfondo
Brazzaville

Since the dry season has ended about a month ago the ground is still hard and so can support all mobile forces. The main rail network links every city to every major town and every fort. All together all of our armed forces mass up to some 200,000 men* which is possible Psov* because a country can conscript by law 5% of our population. Food, fuel and ammo is never short and our factories churn out hundreds of weapon every month. Trade flourishes because of investment in our country and of it's high quality goods.
If you need a map heres is one: http://www.cia.gov/search?NS-search-page=document&NS-rel-doc-name=/cia/publications/factbook/print/cf.html&NS-query=Congo&NS-search-type=NS-boolean-query&NS-collection=Entire%20Site&NS-docs-found=803&NS-doc-number=3

Hmm.. my guys'll head to Quesso, methinks. Bear in mind they're low on supplies and ammo, and although insanely angry with the UC government have no wish to turn on men they were recently fighting alongside.
Where were you using them previously, TUC? Also, if you know who owns airspace north of your border could you tell me, please?

Shessara sent in troops to support Psov as we negotiated via our regional Senate.

Shessaran forces consist of 10,000 men:

Standard arms:
Ceramic plate on kevlar bodysuit
HK G36 and G36k
Tempered steel swords.

ddim-Maelgad's Arms:
Ceramic plate on kevlar bodysuit
DE (Desert Eagle)
Tempered steel halberds.

Aristocrat's arms:
S-4 Combat Armor
CIS .50 Heavy Machine Gun
HK G36/RPG-7

Maelgad Ifrw
ddim-Maelgad Rhys
1,347 grymus-Laeryn House Troops

ddim-Maelgad Tarw
3,562 Fiefdom Troops

ddim-Maelgad Owain
2,465 Fiefdom Troops

ddim-Maelgad Blaen
2,626 afonyd-Laeryn House Troops

Regarding the FCD peacekeeping forces and placement, for future reference.

Equipment
(copied from the old war thread)

1st Peacekeepers
Equipment:
FCAR12 5.56mm - Assault rifle
FCSI 9mm - Pistol
Standard Issue Combat knife

Vehicles:
FCTT-12 APC
MPATJ-1 Jeep

Placement:

The troops are devided into four legions, with the first legion comprising of 2800 troopers, and the second and third legions consisting of 1100 soldiers each.

The 1st Legion is stationed in and around the capital, where they are protecting civilian buildings, such as hospitals etc. This is also where the 1st Peacekeepers' mobile HQ is stationed, under command of Colonel Anderson.

The 2nd Legion operates in the southern area, a reasonable distance from the coast.

The 3rd Legion is centered in the northen part of the nation.

Note that all troopers are carrying the national flag to be able to properly identify themselves as neutrals if they should be spotted by invading troops.

The 1st Peacekeepers will remain in the nation for as long as the Upper Congo lets them stay, or until the Party orders them to evacuate, which is unlikely unless they come under extremely heavy fire.

Hey I was a aggressor in this war. And I got a plaque. Also is it weird to have a 498 ship fleet? I looked it up and a site said fleets used to be over 500 ships. If it is wierd i will divide into more fleets.

Maldaathi 1st Fleet (498)
Udaloy-II Class Guided Missile Destroyer
Spruance Class Destroyer
Coronado Class Command Ship
Gepard Class Frigate
Kirov Class Guided Missile Cruiser
Neustrashimy Class Frigate
Akula-II Class Attack Submarine
Yankee-II Class Ballistic Missile Submarine
Landing Craft, Air Cushion (LCAC) Transport
Mechanized Landing Craft (LCM)
Newport Class Tank Landing Ship
KA-60 "Killer Whale" Medium Weight Transport Helicopter
Kirov Class Guided Missile Cruiser

2nd Infantry Division (14226)
AK-47 w/ Grenade attach.
Fuchs Transportpanzer 1 (TPz 1) APC
.5 Inch Heavy Machine Guns
High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) w/ TOW
Chinooks
Leopard 2 MBT

12th Airborn Regiment (525)
Apache Longbow
Ka-60 "Kasatka"
Troops with XM-8 Rifles.

13th Airborn Regiment (525)
Apache Longbow
Ka-60 "Kasatka"
Troops with XM-8 Rifles.

14th Airborn Regiment (525)
Apache Longbow
Ka-60 "Kasatka"
Troops with XM-8 Rifles.

5th Maldaathi Infantry Division (15 5050)

Troops w/ Pulse Rifles
Full Air Support
Abrams MBT
Fuchs Transport panzer 1 (TPz 1) APC

12th Tank Division (4600)
M1A2 Abram MBT
T-90
Leopard 4 MBT

6th Maldaathi Infantry Corps (52250)
Troops w/ AK-74M
Abrams MBT
Fuchs Transport panzer 1 (TPz 1) APC
T-90 Tanks

Special Forces (47)
Beretta
Modded L85 w/ grenade launch attach., optical sight, laser, scope and silencers
Warrior APC
Lynx Helicopter AH 7

Ground Support Forces (5877)
GAZ 39371 Vodnik
M1078 Standard Cargo Truck
MB-1 Cargo Truck
M992 FAASV Field Artillery Ammunition Supply Vehicles
XM1091 Fuel/Water Tankers
LAV Ambulance (LAV-A)
Armored Medical Treatment Vehicles
Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicles
MK15, Recovery / Wrecker
Light Armored Vehicle-Recoveries (LAV-R)

Naval Support Force (100)
Kilauea Class Ammunition Ship
Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
Sirius Class Combat Stores Ship
Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ship


All troops wear/have the following.
Gasmasks
Land Warrior 1.0 Suits. (Latest communication suits. Very high tech it mods weapons)
SOCOM Sidearms
Full Body Armor

Ok i think these are all the original nations involved, these are the forces i plan to deploy now that i know the number of fighting Congoese troops.

Republican Foreign Fleet
Udaloy-II Class Guided Missile Destroyer (9)
Long Beach Class Guided Missile Cruiser (17)
Kirov Class Guided Missile Cruiser (6)
Coronado Class Command Ship (4)
Akula-II Class Attack Submarine (4)
Delta-V Class Ballistic Missile Submarine (4)
Kuznetsov Class Aircraft Carrier (3)

Psovian Foreign Legion (55,000)
equipped
M4 Carbine
.5 Inch Heavy Machine Gun
Kalashnikov AKS-74U
M-220 TOW Missile Launcher
Kalshnikov AK-108

Republican Liberation Army
50,000 Infantry (Kalashnikov AKS-74U)
25,000 Heavy Infantry (.5 inch Heavy Machine Gun)
100 Armour (M1 Abram)
100 Assault Vehichles (M151 Fast Attack Vehicle)

1st Foreign Infantry Division (16,700)
equipped
Kalshnikov AK-108
RPK-74N2 Light Machine Gun
M-220 TOW Missile Launcher

2nd Foreign Infantry Division (17,900)
equipped
M4 Carbine
.5 Inch Heavy Machine Gun
Kalashnikov AKS-74U
M-220 TOW Missile Launcher
AT-16 Vikhr

3rd Foreign Infantry Division(15,400)
equipped
M4 Carbine
M60 Machine Gun
Kalashnikov AKS-74U
AT-15 Khrizantema

Republican International Guard (5,000)
equipped
Kalashnikov AK-74M
H&K USP Expert
7.62mm SVDS Dragunov Sniper Rifle
RPG-7

Republican Expeditionary Armour (1,140)
T-90 Main Battle Tank
BMP-4 Fighting Vehicle
T-95 Main Battle Tank
BTR-90 Armoured Personnel Carrier
M6 Bradley Linebacker
Patriot Missile Air Defense System (PAC-2)
High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) w/ TOW
M151 Fast Attack Vehicle

Republican Foreign Battery (387)
M119A1 105mm Lightweight Towed Howitzer
227mm Multiple Launched Rocket System (MLRS)
M110A2 Self-Propelled Howitzer

Expeditionary Support Force(3,500)
M1078 Standard Cargo Truck
XM1091 Fuel/Water Tankers
M4 Command and Control Vehicle
LAV Ambulance (LAV-A)
Armored Medical Treatment Vehicles
Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicles
MK15, Recovery / Wrecker

You know, this just isn't worth it. The pile on is ludicrious.

Can we start this war or what? If i get no response in 7 RL hours we begin the attack

No, I'm abstaining from this and I recommend The Upper Congo does, as well. having 7 nations on one side and 2 on another does not make for a fun RP. Too quick, like a god damned river.

Well Im staying in this no matter what. I want some land now that TUC has become annoying with his godmod

Godmode?

Yes. He took minimal casualties comapred to Psov and he completly ignored my artillery and orbital weapon attacks. And in one post he posted 500 deaths no wounded if that was to a artillery strike or a orbital weapon strike i think thats kind of low for a 169km long beach which is where I directed all attacks.

Doh

Well are we going to RP this WAR again? Id like that as this time I will actually land on the beach.

Yes. He took minimal casualties comapred to Psov and he completly ignored my artillery and orbital weapon attacks. And in one post he posted 500 deaths no wounded if that was to a artillery strike or a orbital weapon strike i think thats kind of low for a 169km long beach which is where I directed all attacks.

Excuse me, the 500 casualties were for the battle for the docklands. There were 500 defenders. All were wiped out. I posted more than 400 casualties for the orbital weapons blast, so shut the fuck up.

All people near the Sourthern Cities have been evacuated near the equator for their own safety. All defenses are finished and all soldiers are prepared for the landing by the enemy. 30,000 defend the beaches, along with some 900 artillery, 200 tanks and 120 aircraft. If the beachheads fall all hell could break loose. If casualties are big then the rear guard of 10,000 men will reinforce them. All pilots and artillery personal and actually female.

Two words for the invaders: BRING IT

Hmm.. my guys'll head to Quesso, methinks. Bear in mind they're low on supplies and ammo, and although insanely angry with the UC government have no wish to turn on men they were recently fighting alongside.
Where were you using them previously, TUC? Also, if you know who owns airspace north of your border could you tell me, please?

How can you head to Quesso, have you actually looked at the map? It's like 500 miles from where your landing.

Thanks to new technology oil is now only exported but not used because all our machines run on water and sunflower oil.

Brazzaville has finally completed a shipment of 50 tanks and 100 artillery pieces which in according to the Leader will be sent to the front to try and halt the enemy. The Allies must remember that even though our population is only 20 million we can still conscript up to 400,000 before our economy feels the strain. Let this be a good war.

OOC: The Upper Congo: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/?nation=the_upper_congo

You DO NOT have an excellent economy, and only $6bn is spent on defence. I think you should RP a little more realistically.

EDIT: And you misunderstand the 5% "rule". You can conscript up to around 5%, BUT it screws up your economy a la Soviet Russia and the USA. During the Second World War nations conscripted around 2% of their workers and the economy was severely damaged.

fine, whatever 1% then. damnit.

You're wrong about the 6 billion defence budget, according to this

Government Budget Details
Administration: $14,601,650,943.75 13%
Social Welfare: $24,710,486,212.50 22%
Healthcare: $12,355,243,106.25 11%
Education: $16,848,058,781.25 15%
Religion & Spirituality: $10,108,835,268.75 9%
Defence: $15,724,854,862.50 14%
Law & Order: $3,369,611,756.25 3%
Commerce: $14,601,650,943.75 13%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Ha!

Government Budget Details
Administration: $3,085,178,941,742.19 5%
Social Welfare: $4,319,250,518,439.06 7%
Healthcare: $4,936,286,306,787.50 8%
Education: $11,723,679,978,620.32 19%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $11,106,644,190,271.88 18%
Law & Order: $6,787,393,671,832.82 11%
Commerce: $4,319,250,518,439.06 7%
Public Transport: $8,021,465,248,529.69 13%
The Environment: $1,234,071,576,696.88 2%
Social Equality: $5,553,322,095,135.94 9%


Yay, mines sever hundred times larger than yours!!

Ok. Your budget is 15 billion. Congratulations. You still can't afford much. After all, in the 15 billion you must pay your troops, keep your army vehicles, naval ships, and airplanes in a condition that is able to be operated. You also have a branch for research and development, and one for buying weapons.

Government Budget Details
Administration: $4,187,266,387,637.76 21%
Social Welfare: $1,794,542,737,559.04 9%
Healthcare: $1,794,542,737,559.04 9%
Education: $3,389,691,837,611.52 17%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $4,386,660,025,144.32 22%
Law & Order: $0.00 0%
Commerce: $996,968,187,532.80 5%
Public Transport: $1,395,755,462,545.92 7%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $1,993,936,375,065.60 10%

The majority of my budget is spent on Defense

OOC: Ok so i read 6 instead of 15, it makes no difference - your budget is pitifully small. Your men will be armed with Ak-47s, you wont have a navy, your airforce might just be able to number three cheap ex-Soviet planes and your armoured forces will be 12 T-64s.

OOC: Ok so i read 6 instead of 15, it makes no difference - your budget is pitifully small. Your men will be armed with Ak-47s, you wont have a navy, your airforce might just be able to number three cheap ex-Soviet planes and your armoured forces will be 12 T-64s.

Oh come on give him a break, he could at least have 14 T-64's

lol ;)

No he might be able to have a half decent tank force so long as the total military numbers are kept small-ish, but navies are far too expensive, aside from maybe a patrol boat or two, and the airforce was reasonably accurate. This doesnt mean he cant win (especially with so many people helping him) just that it'll be hard, but then it should be, considering our nations are large, 1st world military powers, and his is not.

Agreed

Here is mine:

Government Budget Details
Administration: $1,535,870,842,506.00 3%
Social Welfare: $2,559,784,737,510.00 5%
Healthcare: $3,071,741,685,012.00 6%
Education: $7,167,397,265,028.00 14%
Religion & Spirituality: $7,167,397,265,028.00 14%
Defence: $8,703,268,107,534.00 17%
Law & Order: $8,703,268,107,534.00 17%
Commerce: $2,047,827,790,008.00 4%
Public Transport: $4,095,655,580,016.00 8%
The Environment: $4,607,612,527,518.00 9%
Social Equality: $2,047,827,790,008.00 4%

Now, how much can that support may you please tell me?

oh come on do it yourself, your the one telling me that your OMFG UBER ARMY would woop my ass.

There are plenty of stickies to help you with army building.

oh come on do it yourself, your the one telling me that your OMFG UBER ARMY would woop my ass.

It could. My defence budget is in the trillions. Just needed some help, knowing what I could buy and how big my defence forces could be. You bunch of insensitive fuckers.

How can you head to Quesso, have you actually looked at the map? It's like 500 miles from where your landing.
Yeah, that's why I said Quesso dude :) My guys are already on your soil - I sent them to help you deal with loyalists in your first or second post I think. They're neutral, and hopefully they're leaving soon.

You bunch of insensitive fuckers.
No flaming in this thread please.

If it's alright, I'd like to send 1,000 observers who are non-combat individuals to observe. I am fully aware of the risks of them however I'm willing to risk them getting killed or hurt in a crossfire. (they are on no ones side).

If it's alright, I'd like to send 1,000 observers who are non-combat individuals to observe. I am fully aware of the risks of them however I'm willing to risk them getting killed or hurt in a crossfire. (they are on no ones side).

Umm..... Strange, but fine

Gilabad:

If you wish, your observers may link up with the FCD peacekeepers stationed around the nation, to minimize the risk.

Thankyou, I would gladly station them with your peacekeepers. Just so you all know I sent them there just to observe battles and moves so I may be updated on the tactics of modern day wars. Meanwhile I am still considering sending in peacekeepers.

Well i guess that just about wraps all of that up, how about we start the thread?

I'm in favour.

Is it alright if I send in an advisory force or peacekeepers in the future.

GIlabad no need. there are already peacekeeping forces and what comes after 999 trillion?


Administration: $54,034,528,687.50 2%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $243,155,379,093.75 9%
Education: $0.00 0%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $999,638,780,718.75 37%
Law & Order: $945,604,252,031.25 35%
Commerce: $297,189,907,781.25 11%
Public Transport: $189,120,850,406.25 7%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Upper Congo your so up yourself. You cant hold back almost a million people with about 300k AT MOST troops. Plus nowhere have you posted supply veichles. Is your supplies going to be teleported to your men? Doubt it or you'd have better weapons and a better economy.If was win I want the coastline for me. Also when posting losses post where the fight was in the title and the name of the person who smashed you in brackets like this

Battle for Docklands (Shessara)

Maldaathi dude that's 999 billion.. sorry man.

Lets get this started

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377335

:( Noooooo. Noo its not..... its trillion :(

I have 5,000 special forces i can include for the aggressors, does anyone mind?

the weapons and men are listed in my sig

Sure. You wouldn't mind if they merged with my special forces? You will get them back. And how many people are in it and what are they equipped with also do they come with transport?

well:

they have side arms, excellent training, famas g2's, and they come in Ural trucks, 120 of them, fitted with machine guns, 5000 men.

Also, they arent attired like special forces, for our nation doesnt actually have the money to give them a uniform...

i will join into the rp then

If you like we will supply them with Maldathian uniforms BUT we want them all back. Even the ones on dead soldiers.

You mean the ones with bullet holes in them? And the ones that were vapourised in artillery blasts?

:( Noooooo. Noo its not..... its trillion :(
It depends on which system you use (British or American) but on NationStates

1,000,000,000 = 1 billion

1,000,000,000,000 = 1 trillion

Althoughyou may be correct to use them the other way around, all you'll achieve is to confuse people.

Shocking News!

President Joubert has resigned from his post! He led the country though it's glory days and was there when everyone else had abandoned us.... He left stating that the increasing pressure from some 30 countries ready to invade the Sourthern Coast and topple his Government was to much to bear and the least he could do is not spill any blood. Vice President Andrew Rice has been elected by the Supreme Council to rule until his time is up. President Rice has appealed to all the Allies for an Armistace.

Encrypted Telegram to The Republic of The Upper Congo

The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia notes your interest in an armistice
agreement, and we therefore propose the following terms. These are
non-negotiable and failrue to comply in full will result in the continuation of
invasion plans:

1) President Joubert and key figures in his government are to be arrested and
tried in an international court for war crimes.

2) All existing and in-development nuclear, biological or chemical weapons
programs are to be shut down and their materials destroyed.

3) Praetonian troops be allowed into your nation.

4) You agree to the establishment of permanent allied military in your nation.

5) Your navy, except for coastal boats, is to be handed over to the allies, as
is your airforce, with the exception of a ten short-range planes.

6) Your army is to be reduced to 20,000 men and 100 armoured vehicles
maximum.

7) All military redevelopment is to be put on hold for 7 years (one RL week).

8) You are to issue a formal apology to the families of the people executed.

9) All political prisoners are to be released. Note that this does not include
people who committed violent acts in support of their political views.

10) All laws against communist organisations are to be repealed.

11) Free and fair elections are to be held, which do not exclude communist
parties.

I need to ask some questions, after one RL week can I start to rebuild my Navy? We did not devolop any kind of missiles because of our lack of interest in it and also our lack of uranium. Also all political prisoners were already released to help stop the threat of war. But that sure did not work. We agree to all your rules, but a few points: We will only allow Praetonian troops onto our soil, and Ex President Joubert went into self-exile and we cannot locate him. Also we are already having an election in 4 days and the communists have not put anyone forward to represent themselves.

OOC: It's very unlikely that the Communists wouldnt put anyone forward, but if you really want to say that then fair enough, it's your nation. Still, all laws preventing them or impeding them are to be removed.

And yes, after 1 real life week all of the military limitations will expire, but until then Praetonian troops (having only Praetonian troops is fine) will enforce the restrictions.

The Ex-President is to be declared a criminal and, if he ever returns to TUC, he is to be arrested and handed over to Praetonia or another allied nation to be tried in an international court for War Crimes. Also, the allies will most likely set up an investigation into his whereabouts.

I have mdae the timely decision to aid The Upper Congo with my trade surplus which all together amounts to some $400,731,345,486.24. This per year will help pay for a properly trained army and if the time comes again to call to arms, a fair match. TUC, it is ok if I station some 17,000 peacekeepers near the Coastline? Also more donations of the newest machines of war to your doorstep...Absolutely Free! With this sweet package we will send some experienced troops to show your men how to use these weapons. If you also ever need our navy just call....

The 5000 FCD peacekeepers stationed in Upper Kongo shall remain at their posts, and continue their work aiding the civilian population as before. As previously stated, they shall remain for as long as Upper Congo lets them.

If it's alright I'd like to send in an advisory force in on The Upper Congo's side to help.

The Republic completely supports the outline of peace terms Praetonia has demanded of The Upper Congo. Though in case of future turmoil we believe that it would be best if we were permitted to station a portion of our Foreign Legion on Congoese soil to protect the intrests our the people of Congo, and the satisfaction of the International Community.

Is it alright if I send some military advisors on the defenders side.

The Republic completely supports the outline of peace terms Praetonia has demanded of The Upper Congo. Though in case of future turmoil we believe that it would be best if we were permitted to station a portion of our Foreign Legion on Congoese soil to protect the intrests our the people of Congo, and the satisfaction of the International Community.

From the desk of Governer McLagherty

You mean occupy it so you can push your own agenda in a formerly soveriegn nation?

Bah, this whole thing has me disgusted*

I warn you all that I am willing to lay down a heavy hand on anyone who thinks they will have a say in Conganese government.

President Joubert, I offer, with open arms, for you to set up a government-in-exile on Principality soil along with any of your comrades who wish to accompany you.

OoC:

* This is both OoC and IC disgust. II isn't about having 20 different nations piling up on one. I shake my head in pity for those of you who are so vain that you would become involved in a conflict that not only doesn't concern you, but one which never should have concerned anyone in the first place.

Official Statement, Imperial Government

All foreign peacekeepers, as per the treaty, are officially expelled. If said foreign troops are not removed from The Upper Congo within one week (168 hours), Imperial troops will take action to enforce their removal. Any attempt to undermine the peace agreement (OOC: *cough* GHI *cough*) will be met with reprocussions. Any attempt to land military equipment or troops in breach of the agreement will be opposed by the Imperial Navy.

Encrypted Telegram to Psov

Your troops will be allowed entry to The Upper Congo so long as they then
establish a base, which will be considered Psovian sovereign territory, and do
not leave whilst on duty except where requested by both Psov and
Praetonian military commands. At no point is the number of Psovian troops in
The Upper Congo to match or exceed the number of Praetonian troops
stationed therein.

OOC: IE - Not all nations in the real world (especially 'old' Europe, ie before WWI, this nice nation thing is really quite new) are nice, consciensiouce pro-sovereignty nations that everyone in NS seems to be these days (either that or an 'evil' nation (ie DA, the others who randomly commit genocides) who also dont exist in real life, nor are they very realistic). Im not going to destroy all (or really any) of his RP opportunities, because yes there is a player behind the nation who wants to have fun in NS, nor am I going to make him a colony, nor am I going to make him a vassal state, but interefere with his government when it suits? Probably. I just want an interesting on-going conflict RP that doesnt end in:

a) Ignorefest
b) Everyone signs a treaty agreeing to go back to the way it was before, minus the genocide or whathaveyou.

OOC2: Here's where I enter his nation: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377488

OOC: Wow, nice OOC Praetonia.

I disagree with the Praetonia terms. Psov should be in control and making the demands. After all he is the leader of the attack forces. And my troops will not be withdrawing. They shall operate on their own if need be. We will leave when we believe the nation stable. Although our navy and half our forces will be withdrawing.

OOC: Who's side were you on again? And how many troops do you have in The Upper Congo? I dont quite remember... anyhow...

Official Statement, Imperial Government

The Upper Congo has chosen to surrender to Praetonian forces, and so Psov has no more right to be there than anyone else. That said, Psov will be allowed to station troops in The Upper Congo, however we must insist on the swift removal of Maldaathian troops in accordance with the armistice treaty.

What the hell do you mean Praetonia forces. They were never your forces. They were Psov. I haven't signed anything so i won't be withdrawing any time soon.

i ahve over 230 000 men and women in TUC

OOC: The Upper Congo surrendered to me. Regardless of how many troops I had in TUC, or how many troops you have, he surrendered to me and so you have no right to be there if we dont want you to be. I agree, you dont *have* to pull out, but you would risk war with Praetonia. Perhaps you dont mind risking hundreds of thousands of troops for some other nation that has no real relevance to your nation, and if you do then ok that's your choice, although not an advisable one to make.

Although you may not have signed the treaty, the war between Psov and whoever is now over, and if you remain in TUC then you will be committing an act of war against me AND TUC.

If that doesnt answer it then im not quite sure what you're saying. I never claimed to own Psov's forces, and Psov supports the peace agreement and is deploying troops to TUC to help the with the temporary occupation.

EDIT: In the old thread you asked for him to pay you $50bn in reparations, which Im willing to give you in return for you removing your troops. Also i doubt you'd have been able to land 230,000 men in just a week or two...

OoC: Oh, I know that Praetonia, I have no problem with an invasion, my problem is with the conflict being entirely based on one side getting a huge number of people who really have no idea what's going on.

That being said, I certainly agree OoCly with the current terms, as I trust you with your occupation, it's the 'allies' I mistrust. ICly, of course, Tyler McLagherty is still disgusted, enough so that I might use this as a base for another RP. Afterall, no man can take the riggers of eternal life forever, perhaps it's high-time for his centuries old Governers post to be emptied and re-filled. Even the greatest genius in all of Republic space can go crazy once life becomes too hard for him...

That being said, I'm interested in perhaps negotiating a deal where nuetral peacekeepers are allowed to stay, mostly seeing as they never became involved in the conflict beyond assisting the civilian populace (and were there at the behest of the former-president, anyway). Shall I post it in your new thread?

Also, TUC, my IC offer to your former president still stands...

The Federation of FCD urges Praetonia to reconsider and let at least a portion of the FCD Peacekeepers stay in the nation. These troops have been stationed there since before the war, to protect the civilians during the period after the civil war. They have done quite a bit of good there, and the Party feels that they have more to offer the people of Upper Congo.

Nevertheless, if you persist in ordering our troops to leave, they shall do so, and be sure to pass on any information that may be of use to the occupying forces.

FCD Foreign Ministry

Encrypted Transmission to Maldaathi

The Democratic Imperium does not recognise the right of Maldaathian troops
to remain in The Republic of The Upper Congo. The presence of your troops is
in violation of the agreement signed by the provisional government of The
Upper Congo, and, should you choose to continue the conflict that has as of
now been ended peacefully, the Democratic Imperium will not hesitate to
enforce the terms of the armistice agreement. If, however, as we believe you
should, accept that the war is over and that your continued presence will
only cause future conflict, then we are willing to reimburse you for the trouble
of deploying troops to the region to the sum of $50bn. We hope, for the sake
of the thousands of lives at stake, that you make the right decision

Open Transmission to FCD

We welcome your peacekeepers to stay, so long as their number does not
exceed 1,200 and all of their activities are declared to the interim Praetonian
administration, and when power is handed back to a Congoan Government,
said government and the Praetonian Military Command in the region.

Our Military will establish a base on TUC soil, we have no intention however of encroaching on the legislative, or political sovreignty of their nation, within the bounds of reason. Some 25,000 troops are to remain stationed in the upper congo.

Very well. 1200 men of the 1st Peacekeepers are to remain within Upper Congo, and the remaining 3800 troopers will be sent back to the Federation as soon as arrangements will be made.

As long as they remain, the peacekeepers shall make weekly reports to the Praetonian administration, regarding their work in the region and any other information that may be considered of interest to the occupying forces.


FCD Foreign Ministy

Encoded Transmission to Praetonia
After careful deliberation with have decided to pull our troops out of the region. We understand you will wire no less than 50billion upon the exit of our navy from TUC waters (Our troops will be onboard)

OOC: Turns out they can only take 6000 men. It would take 50 trips (There and back)

Gilabad would like to send in 300,000 regular troops and additional equipment to the Upper Congo as military advisors. (if that's alright)

The idea of the treaty is that TUC only has a military of 30,000 people...

Meh, long as you don't make it a commie state(by force) or kick my ambassador out your fine Praetonia.

First of all, why was I not consulted with what was going on in my country? Seems everything is back to normal then..... I am sorry Gilibad but sending 300,000 troops will leave a negative influence on the nation and so I must decline. And anyway, our military is becoming better by the day thanks to GHI's military advisors. Psov, as I said earlier only Praetonian troops are allowed to come onto my soil without being fired on. I am sorry but it cannot be allowed, even if you did start the war. Maldaathi, don't make this hard for yourself, if you continue with your seperate operations no-one will support you and you will crumble. Think about it, half your forces gone, so only a small amount of men could easily be surrounded and faced with massacre. Do make up your mind soon.

OOC: I didnt ask you because frankly, you dont have a say right now. You arent really in any position to threaten peoples' troops with opening fire when your military is, for the most part, being decommissioned right now. Plus Maldaathi already agreed to withdraw.

IC: Encrypted Telegram to The Upper Congo

In order to ensure that the views of all combatants are represented, we must
insist that Psov be allowed to bring troops into The Upper Congo. However, we
understand your concerns and so we have stipulated that Psovian troops must,
whilst on duty, be confined to a military base in The Upper Congo which will
legally be classified as Psovian sovereign territory. We should remind you also
that Praetonian troops are currently stationed in all Congoan military bases to
facilitate decommissioning of arms.

In the interest of my country I agree, BUT Psovian troops must stay in their bases until called on by our Goverment if there is a revolt. No questions asked.

NEWS!

The two enviromentalists that destroyed the incredibly important Clopper Dam have been caught after a manhunt covering some two hundred miles ensued. They have denied all allegations but their images were caught on security camera and so they are fully convicted of the following crimes:

Murder* some 19 people died in the flooding*
Destruction of a goverment building
Intention of destroying the economy
Flooding some 87 miles of land

They are both to ve sentenced tommorrow. Also VERSA the group the two teenagers belonged to have been shut down after the Secret Police discovered their plans to destroy the newly built Rickenoff Power Plant and the Congo dam. All leading members were arrested and are to be sentenced tommorrow.

To: The Upper Congoan Provisional Government
From: Praetonian Military High Command, The Upper Congo

We demand to see any and all evidence against these people before they are
tried. We did not fight a war simply to be put in the same position as before but
with a different group.

OOC: Is that true? Or is it just an excuse?

It was actually true. Believe it or not. The Leader, one Charles Fenger authorised the buying of some 30 kilograms of C-4 and Dynamite with the donation from a wealthy businessman. They planned to do another do or die attack just this time with some 30 members attacking the Rickenoff PowerPlant coar reactor. If they planted enough C-4 there it could amount to the power of some 4 nuclear bombs. If they attacked the larger Congo dam it would have flooded some 100 miles, also some of the water would have rushed towards the border devastating much of their farmland. Their attack plan was simple, just do what you did last time. VERSA, under Congonian Law was rightfully shut down by the Government.

OOC: Ok, so my troops will examine it and find nothing wrong with it. Just checking.

Encrypted Transmission to Prataetonia
Our forces have been withdrawn and de briefed. We hope we recieve our 5 billion ASAP

Encrypted Telegram to Maldaathi

$1bn will be wired to your national accounts every year for five years. Thankyou
for withdrawing troops.

Judging time!

The leader of the enviromentalist group ''VERSA'' had today in court another charge put against him, that being Terrorism. We had him put on the bench with a lie detector and swiftly we asked him the main question.... were you funded by a billionare merchant and with the money bought explosives?!? He denied it. The lie detector said the opposite. He was sentenced to be executed by firing squad on Friday the 3rd of December at 5.00 am.

All leading members of the terrorist group have been tried. The Leader of finance Adrian Monker was found innocent when he was put on the lie detector and said he ''knew nothing'' of the incident and is ''disgusted'' at the thought of another attack on The Upper Congonian economy. 2 more were found innocent but 3 leading members were found guilty and will be executed by firing squad tommorrow at 5.30 am.

TUC for a small pathetic country with a new leader you still act the same.

OOC: Well if they actually did do it then fair enough. Murder is punishable by death in some countries, although not something I'd support.

TUC for a small pathetic country with a new leader you still act the same.

Shut up. Nobody cares about your bloody opinion.

Stop arguing, both of you.

I'm fucking tired of Maldatthi or whatever saying my country is small and pathetic. Guess what? You are only like 2 months older than me, but it does not make you better you moron.

I'm fucking tired of Maldatthi or whatever saying my country is small and pathetic. Guess what? You are only like 2 months older than me, but it does not make you better you moron.

Just calm down TUC, don't lower yourself to his level. You have great potential(needs a bit of work, trust that Praetonia will help you a tad) and he has none, be proud of that.

I really dont care what you have to say. Atleast i dont NEED help from a much larger nation to be good. And remember I am not at fault. Im the the one killing people coz they dont believe in the government. Im not the naive one.

Dumperdam who asked you.

Size doesn't matter: It's how you use it!

Dumperdam who asked you.

I did, now if you'll please remove yourself from this thread.

[QUOTE=MaldaathiIm the the one killing people coz they dont believe in the government. Im not the naive one.[/QUOTE]

Looks like you are the naive one. Also, how old are you? Because you spell like a five-year old with dixlexia

Dumb shit its called a typo.

Dumb shit its called a typo.

Hey, calm down motherfucker. If you can't handle the heat stay away from the fire.

Will all of you grow up an stop flaming? If you don't I'll call in the mods.

Was this ever concluded?

Well I quit NS for a bit, taking a break, but now Im back...