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In agreement with the government of the Fascist Confederacy, Parthian and Fascian workers are beginning construction of a checkpoint between Iran and Fascian Oman. This checkpoint is basically an artificial land bridge with two channels 300m wide in the deepest part of the Strait of Hormuz. Two large gates will close off the channels when not in use and will open to permit ships to pass through. This new project will be used to stop the flow of oil heading to nations embargoing Parthia from passing through Parthian waters or the waters of nations friendly to Parthia. Ships from nations not embargoing Parthia will not pay any tolls or be delayed at all.

-Please have fun without oil

Shah Khosru III

[OOC - Due to the realities of the NationStates world, the supplies of oil could not be centered within the sole country of Parthia. As the NationStates world is simply too large and too complex for such an event to happen. Due to this reality, that in a world as large as the NationStates world, other oil supplies must be found abundant elsewhere in the NationStates world, you are hereby royally served!]

[OOC - Due to the realities of the NationStates world, the supplies of oil could not be centered within the sole country of Parthia. As the NationStates world is simply too large and too complex for such an event to happen. Due to this reality, that in a world as large as the NationStates world, other oil supplies must be found abundant elsewhere in the NationStates world, you are hereby royally served!]

In the RL world oil is most abundant in the Middle East. This still means that i've taken out a significant portion of the market and will drive up oil prices in your nations a bit.

Official Response from Communist Louisiana

Due to this move by the terroristic nation of Parthia, Communist Louisiana will step up its drilling production throughout the Gulf of Mexico, The Carribean, and continental North America. Communist Louisiana also will begin oil exploration in the North Atlantic using CL controlled Nova Scotia as a base to do so. All nations who used to import Parthian oil may now import Louisianaian crude oil

We would also like to take this opportunity to thank Parthia for giving all of its former business as well as possibly the business of your neighboring nations since you have shut off channels. Thank you for making this communist nation a stronger oil exporter.

Department of Energy
Woody Prudhome
Secretary of Energy
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL

OOC: If you didn't notice, thankful for the Factal Reality theory and multiverse (Go to NS Wiki to find out more), the FC annexed Oman, Fruity Loops took Yemen, and Parthia resides in Iran. Not to mention, no matter how large a world is, and we know we can't stop ALL oil supply to certain nations, we, considering the Middle East is the top exporting and most oil abundant region in the world, cutting the Strai of Hormuz off with OPEC funded blockades and checkpoints, could drasticly slow the flow of economy for needy nations.

[OOC - Since I have proven I have the oil, I think this is sufficient to go to war over, who's with me?]

Official Response from Communist Louisiana

Due to this move by the terroristic nation of Parthia, Communist Louisiana will step up its drilling production throughout the Gulf of Mexico, The Carribean, and continental North America. Communist Louisiana also will begin oil exploration in the North Atlantic using CL controlled Nova Scotia as a base to do so. All nations who used to import Parthian oil may now import Louisianaian crude oil

We would also like to take this opportunity to thank Parthia for giving all of its former business as well as possibly the business of your neighboring nations since you have shut off channels. Thank you for making this communist nation a stronger oil exporter.

Department of Energy
Woody Prudhome
Secretary of Energy
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL

We can always make it cheaper... And besides, the channels are only shut to nations which embargoed me in the first place. So please, enjoy skyrocketing prices while I introduce some slave labour and drive down prices even more... its twenty-five cents a gallon here and were expecting a decrease.

-Teymorian Industries

OOC: Going to war over what real cartel corporations do in real life? Rather hasty. Not to mention, I never said I ceased oil going to any nations. This is simply regulating the oil trade and trying to organise it better.

OCC: There is no way 3 nations alone can control a majority of the oil in the NS world dumbasses.

IC: We would like to point out that one of the largest oil companies in the NS world is cofounded by the COMMUNIST nation of Dontpissusoff. I am pretty sure he will increase production as I am currently begining to do to feed oil to the nations who are embargoing Parthia.

OCC: There is no way 3 nations alone can control a majority of the oil in the NS world dumbasses.

IC: We would like to point out that one of the largest oil companies in the NS world is cofounded by the COMMUNIST nation of Dontpissusoff. I am pretty sure he will increase production as I am currently begining to do to feed oil to the nations who are embargoing Parthia.


IC: With your crazy commie economies I don't expect you will be able to produce oil at a low price. You spend too much on the pool table for the employees lounge and other junk the prols don't need. To us the bottom line matters most. We don't spend more than 30 cents per employee per day, if even that, some we spend 10 cents on since they are slaves. With low overhead, I cannot see how anyone can compete with low prices we offer. Have a nice day with your government planned economies while the costs of living drop like a rock in my nation.

OOC: Not by three nations.. Those just happen to be the ones with the land. By these nations: Fascist Confederacy, The Parthians, The Phoenix Militia, The Republic Of JRV, Nycton, and Risban. Along with several Undisclosed Benefactors who wish to keep their identity secret. (No bs. Some of them happen to be Communist or Socio-Libertarian and wish to keep Fascist backing to a later date).

ITD supports this action taken by the nation of Pathian and its allies. We will match by ceasing oil transportation to the nations who are waging an embargo on the nation of Pathian.

OOC: Thanks ITD. By the way, do you know exactly when DA is suppose to return? I have a matter I wish to speak with him over.

IC:
Thank you ITD. We thuroughly thank your for your support and wish to notify you of a large shipment of 'random' goods (Textiles, foods, and the like) that are being shipped to your location as a massive 'fruit basket' of sorts.

OOC: Oh, and ITD, if it's not too much trouble, could you please sign onto MSN Messenger. I would like to have a word with you.

This is very funny Parthia. Lets compair your wonderful capitalistic dictatorship economy to that of a workers ran economy of Communist Louisiana.

Communist Louisiana
Trade Surplus: $176,058,993,172.87
Goverment Waste: $0.01

The Parthians
Trade Deficit: $1,028,239,774,508.91
Goverment Waste: $718,856,332,017.60

Your nation will be bankrupt in a coupple of years comrade. You waste money like it is nothing. Just remember one thing, your nation may have a little more oil than that of CL, but CL has more FRESH WATER than Iran.

(OOC: Well, if you have a consumer economy and spend stuff all on the workers, presumably their buying power is beat to heck, and you shoot yourself in the foot.
Now, if you're shutting off oil export to a few countries specifically but not to others... well, actually, I just don't see how that's going to work at all. Quite apart from that, no true communist economy would be acquiring oil from a backwards capitalist state anyway, and price wouldn't be an issue to post-currency society. Proper communist economies would deal mainly in raw material for raw material, and presumably your economies take currency for their oil... one would expect the communists to be trading with communists anyway. It's not like the world you're in is so small as the real one that had only one major (sham) communist bloc.
Oh well, it doesn't matter to me. You can do whatever the heck you like, I just wanted to express some concerns from the sidelines.)

This is very funny Parthia. Lets compair your wonderful capitalistic dictatorship economy to that of a workers ran economy of Communist Louisiana.

Communist Louisiana
Trade Surplus: $176,058,993,172.87
Goverment Waste: $0.01

The Parthians
Trade Deficit: $1,028,239,774,508.91
Goverment Waste: $718,856,332,017.60

Your nation will be bankrupt in a coupple of years comrade. You waste money like it is nothing. Just remember one thing, your nation may have a little more oil than that of CL, but CL has more FRESH WATER than Iran.

OOC: Not really, the US has had a trade deficit for some time, the US is not bankrupt and I spend far less than the US does. And your little embargo just reduced that deficit... so have a nice day.

The Parthians Economic Statistics
Exchange Rate: 1 Parthi = $1.9441
Gross Domestic Product: $80,400,179,043,693.50
GDP Per Capita: $43,624.62
Unemployment Rate: 4.39%
Consumption: $73,161,571,000,000.0

Exchange Rate: 1 Louisianaian = $1.6349
Gross Domestic Product: $59,425,434,085,929.68
GDP Per Capita: $30,854.33
Unemployment Rate: 4.55%
Consumption: $-0.01


Keep that in mind.

CL doesnt practice Marxist economy laws. It follows Dufourist economy laws still saying that the market is controlled through the consumers. Its just a majority of the large compaines are employee owned and are very regulated by the government to see that no laws are being broken. It gets deeper than that, but I am far to tired to explain. Possibly tomorrow maybe.

Actually Parthians, by taking a look at this, parts of your economy which affect LONG TERM economic growth are still how do you say,"shot to shit".

CL doesnt practice Marxist economy laws. It follows Dufourist economy laws still saying that the market is controlled through the consumers. Its just a majority of the large compaines are employee owned and are very regulated by the government to see that no laws are being broken. It gets deeper than that, but I am far to tired to explain. Possibly tomorrow maybe.

Why not hand them over to actual sensible owners? The prols can't tell anything, especially not how to run a company!

-Shah Khosru III

Actually Parthians, by taking a look at this, parts of your economy which affect LONG TERM economic growth are still how do you say,"shot to shit".

What, in terms of the trade deficit? It won't effect my economy, I've had one since day one and there have been no problems. The government is 100% seprate from the economy.

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=The+Parthians

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Communist+Louisiana

I know what my stats are comrade. The thing is your economy has a trillion dollar trade deficit. I on the other have a 1.76 billion trade SURPLUS.

Oh, and what would eliminate a deficit?

:-) Trade Surplus: $2,075,408,724,373.11

Oh, and what would eliminate a deficit?

OOC: Terms of Trade Defecit occurs when a nation has a higher outflow of capital than an inflow, often caused by a greater level of imports rather than exports. There are numerous reasons for this (high exchange rate compared to other currencies, lack of efficient business in native country etc.) To solve a defecit, one requirement would be to export more than you import.

You probably all knew that, but I've been studying Economics almost two years and I wanted to use the theory. Oh yeah! :D

OOC: Terms of Trade Defecit occurs when a nation has a higher outflow of capital than an inflow, often caused by a greater level of imports rather than exports. There are numerous reasons for this (high exchange rate compared to other currencies, lack of efficient business in native country etc.) To solve a defecit, one requirement would be to export more than you import.

You probably all knew that, but I've been studying Economics almost two years and I wanted to use the theory. Oh yeah! :D

Well, my currency is extremley strong.... that probably has something to do with it.

Hahaha!

President & General Secretary Sean Matthews
Soviet State of Hrstrovokia

To the nation of "Communist" Louisiana:

Just out of curiosity, why are you a compulsory consumerist state? Not very communist of you. You are more like Parthia than any leftie nation.

-Vice Economic Minister Sassan Aryanpur

As I said, my nation does not follow Marxist Economic Theories. We follow those of Dufourism. It is a mixed economy system that allows citizens to produce consumer goods and services while the government controls large industry such as railroad, oil production, telephone/internet access, and electricy.

Well, my currency is extremley strong.... that probably has something to do with it.

[OOC: Compared to what? The Dollar? That aint worth crud today.]

You are trying to stop us acquiring oil? Well, it looks like using hydrogen power, solar power, and wind turbines has benefits other than clean air and no acid rain.

Taldaani Government Response

Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

We use Israeli and Halladi oil, oil that is not only not located in the Middle East, minus IDF, but the nations are also not part of OPEC. So we are un-affected, your embargo on us is a joke. Good day, we shall continue to use our oil. Oh and, we r teh l337357 OMG ROFL!!11!! Ah sorry, that was for my own amusement.
Nikolai Geoff
Rosian Minister of Commere
http://www.ssinf.sv.gov.yu/face/amirn2.jpg

[OOC: Cheap Oil! - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376948]

This has no effect on us as that we use Halladi oil, thank you for that though

Minister of Commerce
Alianov Nordhutzschen

Since the Parthian Response, our great friends of Ottoman Empire have began to sell oil very cheaply and to all nations involved in the embargo.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=376948

Evil Overlord Enterprises has control of the Redoubt Islands oil fields (located northwest of the Dominion in the South Pacific), and produces sufficient excess oil to export in quantity. Sadly, the Redoubt oil fields are restricted to 2 million barrels of exportable product per day due to the recent disturbances, which have reduced drilling, loading, and refining capacity.

His Omniferocity's government is willing to sell Redoubt light, sweet crude oil for EOE Cr 22 (approx. USD 32) per barrel to any nation desiring it during the current crisis until the excess quantity is gone. Any further purchases will be at the going rate (approx. EOE Cr 30).

Please contact your nearest EOE Office if you are interested.


Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs