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The Ceasless Dark
05-12-2004, 07:31
sigh..fine....oh, and lorrr. I'm watching you...
Yatsumica
05-12-2004, 08:04
Telegrams are sent to each nation entailed in this war, they state.

To the Supreme Rulers of Collective Nations,
On behalf of my country, it is my duty to uphold that I and my nation must not allow such a senseless act of depravity to befall such a hapless nation. I cannot comply with the results of a war that were so heavily stacked against such a tiny country. Although i do not believe in the killing of any group for their beliefs, i will not let a country of Dictatorial status to be forced to become a democracy. For a democracy is mearly a perversion of a Republic. The only true way to have a presentable country is to beat the thoughts into your subjects as only a dictator can do. If it is needed i can send my armies to aid in the defence of Nazi's Rule, and to protect their beliefs in the greater power of dictators. I am a militaristic leader. And as i am in the futuristic stage, i will lower my age to modern to make this an even fight. I will send 200,000 Abrahms tanks. 3 Million Marines. 200 Tomcat fighter jets. and enough amunition and rations to last for 300 years. I can send this at the ready at any time, with enough force left to lead a defence in my own nation and an effective attack. Nazi's Rule must only say the word and he can consider it airlifted in within 3 days.

Very Truly Yours,
The Supreme Inquisitor of Yatsumica
Xenonier
05-12-2004, 09:00
Speech

The Xenonian Delegate's Speech.

"Zozombia said that the nation of Nazi's Rule was burning, as I reminded you. He said that the only government was currently on Zozombian soil. If you had read the thread, you would know we are sticking up for the little guy and preserving what he has left. If you had read the communications between the nations, which you obviously refrained from doing so, you would know to attack Nazis Rule would be attacking them when they are in our territory, a declaration of war against us and you would know about the peace treaty. If you had read the thread, were each and every nation was broadcasting communications, Zozombia wouldn't be within an inch of delcaring war.

In short, you are a victim of your own inability to assess the situation."
Nazis rule
05-12-2004, 09:25
After Lakovisch signed the treaty he thought about why he just said he would try and make Nazi rule a diplomatic country. He knew he couldn't let that happen, Nazis rule had to have a nazi government style. Lakovisch took the podium once again, which surprised a few of the delegates.

"Dominick Somers, what I said before about changing my government to be diplomatic, I as the last government official have changed my reasons and will not turn to be a diplomatic country. Nazis rule was bound to be a nazis government nation and so it will be. I hope this doesn't upset you because I have already signed the peace treaty, but Nazis rule shall remain in a nazi government style." Lakovisch announced seating himself. He knew this would not go well with Nolofinwe, but he had to do it. Lakovisch then sent a note down to the Xenonier delegate.

Note:
"As you have just heard my decision on the government style of Nazis rule, I fear that Nolofinwe will attack Zozombia. With that said if he does try to attack I will leave the nation so that innocent Zozombian citizens are not harmed." Signed Josephere Lakovisch
The Ceasless Dark
05-12-2004, 09:27
*clap clap clap* I don't even know whats going on right now. *sigh* I'll just side with Xenonier. He seems to have a better grip on the situation.. I'm getting lost in what all is going on. So all three mil of my troops and my regions full support rest with you're choices Xenonier. We just want the best out of this war.
Nazis rule
05-12-2004, 09:30
OOC: Well i just changed my decision on my nation's government style, which will be nazism. And the delegate from Xenonier just told Nolofinwe whats going on.
The Ceasless Dark
05-12-2004, 09:36
Well Lakovisch, you have the Full support of the stronger Ceasless dark. 3 million troops are fortifying the area between you and the opposition. We're ready. let them try and get through.(Wait, no, don't. give up)
Pallawish
05-12-2004, 10:22
"The Free Land Of The Pallawish Nation has decided to once AGAIN change its stance... as it is extremely obvious now, the nation of Nazis Rule is defenceless and it is like attacking civilians therefore the Pallawish Nation will slowly be withdrawing its troops. We will leave behind only 100 troops that will contact us of further news. I however will still be allying with Nolofinwe as he may make a great ally for our nation however we will not aid their nation in this war unless convinced why. For The Pallawish!!!"

- Spoken by Lord Thomas II
Modguy
05-12-2004, 10:26
Meanwhile in the upper orbit over the planet, an arch angel class attack carrier has exited hyperspace and begins preliminary scanning of the earth surface.

The battle operator furrowed his brow and begin to speak, “Sir, there is a fairly large concentration of population and industry, what should we do?”

With a sigh the admiral replied “bring the rest of the carriers out of hyperspace so we can recharge the cores, until then we are NOT to make any contact with anyone on the surface, although our world is destroyed, the galactic treaty of non interference with less developed peoples is still binding.”

“Yes sir”

In a few seconds 6 more carriers came out of hyperspace, 3 being heavily armed carriers each with 3 ion beam cannons, and a fighter bay each holding 35 squads of fighters and bombers, each squad making up 5 fighters and for bombers 3. The other 3 carried the last civilian population of Modguy, just barely escaping the the destruction of its world by jhaar missile assaults.

“Sir! There is a primitive radio broadcast being directed to all known channels…it seems to be a news network…should I put it on audio?”

“Very well, bring it up.”

******INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST****************************
"The Free Land of The Pallawish Nation has decided to once AGAIN change its stance... as it is extremely obvious now, the nation of Nazis Rule is defenseless and it is like attacking civilians therefore the Pallawish Nation will slowly be withdrawing its troops. We will leave behind only 100 troops that will contact us of further news. I however will still be allying with Nolofinwe as he may make a great ally for our nation however we will not aid their nation in this war unless convinced why. For The Pallawish!!!"
******************************************************

“What…a multi state world? Hmmmm, it seems it would be best to see the developments of these matters…as inter state wars tend to produce great leaps in science…and therefore space.’” The old admiral replied as worry lined his eyes.
Xenonier
05-12-2004, 12:14
Xenonian High Command

"Mr Presidenyt!" Roared a thick Russian Accent.

"Captain, now Is not the time". Arkady Gregorovich was not in the mood for small talk. Nolofinwe would have to choose between annihilation at the hands of Zozombia, or peace. In truth, Arkady wanted to see Nolofinwe suffer a pounding, the weak-up call to their moral stance they so badly needed.

Suffice to say, other distractions were not worth bothering about.

"Sir, Important! We have space vessels in orbit! They are hovering over the other side of the planet!"

"WHAT THE HELL?" could be heard throughout the briefing room.

"Sir, they are holding stay. It's a large fleet, I'm not sure exactly what ..."

"Captain, scan them." Arkady was sweating. Why, of all times - now?

"We see a grouping of Capital ships, nothing more"

"Alright Captain. No offensive action taken?"

"No sir. But they do seem to be building up a conflagration of energy in each ship. Probably recharging whatever the hell they are using as a power supply."

Arkady's Chest deflated slightly.

"Alright Captain, if you can, hail them through a ... quantum tranmission. they look the type to be interested in that level of technology. They can't have seen our cities, considering they are completely underground and the arrival of a fleet that large out of nowhere will not help our current diplomatic situation. If nessecary, you do have permission to launch an observation vessel with escort"

"Yes Captain."

OOC: Okay, a small explanation. My nation poured large amounts of money into A Space Program, and I willl probably publish a thread about the construction of major capital ships soon. But we do have the technology for Space bourne fighters that are launched from Orbital platforms, Airports and the like. We are a FT nation after all.
Yatsumica
05-12-2004, 21:48
"sir Supreme Inquisitor sir,"
"yes, what is it now"
"there seems to be a build up of hostilities again, and a large fleet of space vessels in outer orbit"
"send in the defence we promised to Nazis Rule, and send in the hive fleet beheamoth to deal with the starcraft if they pose an annoyance"



IIC:my country is in the futuristic age, and is located on another planet, for wars with countries in regular age i downgrade my population to military. but in wars with futuristic ages they are converted back to scientists who are creating thousands to millions of Tyranid like creatures. If you want to know what a tyrranid is, http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40K/tyranids/default.htm
and Hive Fleet Beheamoth i created as a country so as to keep up with the population. The fleet is composed of 5 million carnifexes and 5 million gaunts.
They will plumet through space (feeling no difference between atmosphere and space) and barrel into the fleet above the planet if my interests are threatened.
The Ceasless Dark
05-12-2004, 23:14
OOC: ok I've made a small misscalculation for how much my allies supported me...I only asked for 2 mill of help. They said they supported me, I posted results. I now know that there support was there intire support. Or forces are 27 million......yeah. 4 armies! back to defending nazis...

All ceasless dark G.O.L.E.M.s fell into position. The Titain Models activating and placeing infront of the miles of trenches dug by the troops. The Fight model Apollo G.O.L.E.M.s ready to launch. Our large Orbital battleship, the Eeren, hovering high in the air. Large cannons recived there final ajustment ontop of the hills. tanks patroled the streets ready to provide assistance wherever they where needed. THe solders in the trenchs, ontop of buildings, manning turrets, all flew under many different flags, some the ceasless dark, others Laodices, a few even under Seevola Ignatius. But all willing to give there lives to the greater good
Modguy
05-12-2004, 23:27
Xenonian High Command

"Mr Presidenyt!" Roared a thick Russian Accent.

"Captain, now Is not the time". Arkady Gregorovich was not in the mood for small talk. Nolofinwe would have to choose between annihilation at the hands of Zozombia, or peace. In truth, Arkady wanted to see Nolofinwe suffer a pounding, the weak-up call to their moral stance they so badly needed.

Suffice to say, other distractions were not worth bothering about.

"Sir, Important! We have space vessels in orbit! They are hovering over the other side of the planet!"

"WHAT THE HELL?" could be heard throughout the briefing room.

"Sir, they are holding stay. It's a large fleet, I'm not sure exactly what ..."

"Captain, scan them." Arkady was sweating. Why, of all times - now?

"We see a grouping of Capital ships, nothing more"

"Alright Captain. No offensive action taken?"

"No sir. But they do seem to be building up a conflagration of energy in each ship. Probably recharging whatever the hell they are using as a power supply."

Arkady's Chest deflated slightly.

"Alright Captain, if you can, hail them through a ... quantum tranmission. they look the type to be interested in that level of technology. They can't have seen our cities, considering they are completely underground and the arrival of a fleet that large out of nowhere will not help our current diplomatic situation. If nessecary, you do have permission to launch an observation vessel with escort"

"Yes Captain."

OOC: Okay, a small explanation. My nation poured large amounts of money into A Space Program, and I willl probably publish a thread about the construction of major capital ships soon. But we do have the technology for Space bourne fighters that are launched from Orbital platforms, Airports and the like. We are a FT nation after all.
“Sir!! We are being hailed!”

The admiral gave a hard look at the BO“I told you before… we shall not-“

“But sir, it’s a quantum transmission.”

“What?!? I thought your scanning showed only a primitive population?”

“Scanning again with full sensor power….yes, there are cities beneath the surface with considerable technology, but not as advanced as ours”

“Very well, open a channel for communication.” He sighed, most likely knowing he may have a conflict on his hands if he is meanings are confused.

When he noticed that the screen had turned blue, signifying an audio channel was open, he began to speak “this is the Modguian attack carrier hopebringer; we have acknowledged your transmission and waiting for further transmission.”
Nolofinwe
05-12-2004, 23:53
back at the peace conference....

dominick somers rose to the podium, he is obviously annoyed by nazis rule's decision but would still like to negotiate as long as he can. "ok lakovisch, so you won't consider establishing a democracy. so we'll try to be flexible, because this is a peace conference we are obliged to respect your opinion. are you then willing then to discuss with us establishing a benevolent dictatorship? even though my nation will not take any action against you as of now my nation still considers you a threat based on the fact that you threatened commandoes, if you believe this claim to be false then we ask you to say so and why, we also ask that you give the reason for threatening them . if you agree to this we will sign the peace treaty, aid you in rebuilding, and help you rebuild your government. and the only action we will take will be to send in 200 troops to make sure peace is kept. all we ask is that you consider establishing a decent form of government (not necessarily a democracy) that puts the people first and doesn't oppress them, and lets them have at least a little say in the government. and we're not trying to turn you into a puppet of our government, once we see you are back on your feet then we will withdraw from your nation unless you still want us there. all we really want is to see that the people of the world are treated well and given they're say, and that those people who want otherwise are eliminated." somers took his seat...
Nazis rule
06-12-2004, 00:38
Lakovisch took to the podium.

" Somers, I will try to establish a reasonable dictatorship when Nazis rule is rebuilt. Citizens will have some rights and may be treaty fairly if they do not oppose the government style. As for the threatening of Commandoes, this is true, the government body found Commandoes to be a threat to our nation. So the government body issued a warning/threat to the Commandoes government. We did not though, do any military action against Commandoes or were planning to in that manner." Lakovisch replied to question given by Somers
THE BRUTES
06-12-2004, 02:30
This is Flag Brute Ship from opposite side of the planet we are asking what you are doing here please answer. If you are an enemy my fleet is ready to counter-attack you. We hope that you will become either neutral or an ally.
Modguy
06-12-2004, 03:03
This is Flag Brute Ship from opposite side of the planet we are asking what you are doing here please answer. If you are an enemy my fleet is ready to counter-attack you. We hope that you will become either neutral or an ally.

A clicking noise interrupted the admiral, a urgent message was coming in…a capital ship!

“This is Admiral Vastok of the hopebringer. We bear no ill intent, this is just a jump point between us and a new colony world we are fleeing to.”
The Ceasless Dark
06-12-2004, 03:36
Click both receaved a transmition. "Umm hey does this have anything to do with the conflict cause all of you are clogging up our radio waves,(Or whatever)
Yatsumica
06-12-2004, 06:03
IIC: not clogging my radio waves. all communicating by synapse glands in brains.



At the Peace Conferrence
The Vice Representative for Yatsumica (a half tyranid hive tyrrant, half human) spoke. "Gentleman, as we are aware, the nation of nazis rule and commandoes obviously have differences. I and the nations i represent, as i can bring in many more, are willing to achieve total peace between the nations through declarations of war. We as a region do not appreciate needless pease when war can accomplish anything. We would like to extend our hand, claw, tentacle, to your representatives in a fair fight. We would also like to include any and all space bearing vessels and countries in the Future Tech that are in this forum to either leave or list status of armies so that we can achieve an agreement of war. Please, we merely ask the rules that we would base this war around as there will undoubtedly be one. May the gods be with you, and may they take pity on the souls of those that do not comply." At the end of his speach, a ray of pure energy shot out of his head and incinerated all those within 30 feet of him. After this he departed under heavy gaurd (all termagaunts).

IIC:remember that anything you wish to know about tyranids can be found at http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/default.htm
Nolofinwe
06-12-2004, 07:40
Lakovisch took to the podium.

" Somers, I will try to establish a reasonable dictatorship when Nazis rule is rebuilt. Citizens will have some rights and may be treaty fairly if they do not oppose the government style. As for the threatening of Commandoes, this is true, the government body found Commandoes to be a threat to our nation. So the government body issued a warning/threat to the Commandoes government. We did not though, do any military action against Commandoes or were planning to in that manner." Lakovisch replied to question given by Somers


mr. somers spoke to mr. lakovisch on the mike from his desk, what lakovisch said did not go over well....

"ok, um... alright so basically what your saying is that if your citizens don't like what you say they are mistreated and have their rights taken away, that's why we declared war in the first place. so zozombia you asked me to prove the citizens have their rights taken away? there it is right out of his own mouth. and by the way lakovisch, with commandoes, did you threaten to declare war? if you did then i'm sorry even though i don't agree with them in that they did it without negotiating, they had every right to declare war and did so in defense of their nation. and why exactly were they a threat?"

exasperated and out of breath he pauses...

"ok fine look, if you will comply with the very reasonable and simple plan i put before you we will donate the 15 billion set aside initially for the war for your reconstruction efforts, otherwise the war goes on and more lives will be lost. i don't want to go to war, but we wil if we have to, we have already declared war it's no just a matter of actually starting it, and we are gaining allies."
Nazis rule
06-12-2004, 08:24
Lakovisch stood at the podium, a little frustrated.

"Mr. Somers, my citizens still have some rights, they were all not taken away. I am sorry that you do not agree with my government, but you will have too. Any citizen that oppose the government will either be jailed or exacuted determing what the crime was. Your nation will have to deal with the way my government is run. Concerning the Commandoes incident, Nazis rule's did not declare war on Commandoes, we warned/threat to his government. Now if you have any more questions Mr. Somers I will be glad to answer them." Lakovisch replied now completely angered by being told with how his government should be run.
Pallawish
06-12-2004, 09:55
"Get used to it. as a lot of nations like telling other nations how to be run. I would know, i do it all the time."

- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
Xenonier
06-12-2004, 13:10
“Sir!! We are being hailed!”

The admiral gave a hard look at the BO“I told you before… we shall not-“

“But sir, it’s a quantum transmission.”

“What?!? I thought your scanning showed only a primitive population?”

“Scanning again with full sensor power….yes, there are cities beneath the surface with considerable technology, but not as advanced as ours”

“Very well, open a channel for communication.” He sighed, most likely knowing he may have a conflict on his hands if he is meanings are confused.

When he noticed that the screen had turned blue, signifying an audio channel was open, he began to speak “this is the Modguian attack carrier hopebringer; we have acknowledged your transmission and waiting for further transmission.”

Arkady took the stage.

"Greetings. This is the Xenonian Preisdent Arkady Gregorovich. I see your arrival has already got people worried about your presence. Best if you take station in the cover of our own Space. Co-ordinates are being sent through. Sorry I can't welcome you to this rock offically, I'm very busy right now."

Back in the Command Center.

The Yatsumican delegate had left after his little party trick. Of course, being an Avid 40K player, Gregorovich had let him into a room of holograms, so nothing exciting had actually happened. It was funny to watch him rage though.

Inside the command center, The Xenonian delegate was worried. No movement had been detected in Zozombia for some time. Arkady had amittedly to the delegate in private he was worried they might just be ready to shut Nolofinwe up ... and the fact the Zozombian Delegate hadn't shown up recently was not helping ..

OOC.

Two things. Firstly, Yatsumica - I think you might be in a little trouble, copying GW's Tryanids..

Finally, I'm not declaring war unless I am attacked. My only goal was to allow Nazis rule to defend itself, and keep it's civilans alive. No more, no less.
Yatsumica
06-12-2004, 14:20
i am aware, the only reason that i did any of this is that im gettin bored with this, and instead of quit when im leading a great nation and a region of friends, id like to join a war, however every time i join a war it seems to resolve peacefully and im trying to fight someone.... it gets agravating.
and i dont think im gonna get in trouble, i cant remember how many people have been using halo as an army for so long, ive seen countries based around space marines, so i dont concider that i will get in trouble. Its not like im making my own and selling them, im just using the names and concept
Yatsumica
06-12-2004, 14:26
mr. somers spoke to mr. lakovisch on the mike from his desk, what lakovisch said did not go over well....

"ok, um... alright so basically what your saying is that if your citizens don't like what you say they are mistreated and have their rights taken away, that's why we declared war in the first place. so zozombia you asked me to prove the citizens have their rights taken away? there it is right out of his own mouth. and by the way lakovisch, with commandoes, did you threaten to declare war? if you did then i'm sorry even though i don't agree with them in that they did it without negotiating, they had every right to declare war and did so in defense of their nation. and why exactly were they a threat?"

exasperated and out of breath he pauses...

"ok fine look, if you will comply with the very reasonable and simple plan i put before you we will donate the 15 billion set aside initially for the war for your reconstruction efforts, otherwise the war goes on and more lives will be lost. i don't want to go to war, but we wil if we have to, we have already declared war it's no just a matter of actually starting it, and we are gaining allies."



The Yatsumican Delegacy video phoned in to Mr. Somers
"Sir, it seems that you wou will be willing to let only your way be the right way. My people for instance have absolutely no rights, and any that speak up are routinely shot. In fact we have at least 3 executions per month just to show the citizens that they are not in control."
Zotrannsia
06-12-2004, 15:08
i am aware, the only reason that i did any of this is that im gettin bored with this, and instead of quit when im leading a great nation and a region of friends, id like to join a war, however every time i join a war it seems to resolve peacefully and im trying to fight someone.... it gets agravating.
and i dont think im gonna get in trouble, i cant remember how many people have been using halo as an army for so long, ive seen countries based around space marines, so i dont concider that i will get in trouble. Its not like im making my own and selling them, im just using the names and concept

First Post!

OOC. Hey, I understand completey. Companies really need to calm down about IP rights. But still, you might want to be careful.

As for wars, Why don't you start agree with somebody to start one? I've agreed to a war with two friends and my cousin (Xenonier and Zozombia, as well as Legio Arcantum) that will commence some time in the next fortnight to test our (Burgoening) RPing skills. But we are a bit small to take your nation on ... :p

IC.

A telegram was sent to the Yatsumican delegate.

Can I have a termagant as a pet?

The Zoatrannsian government accepts that every country has a right to it's own leadership, but we do not believe that Nazisim is fair to the populace. Still, we don't really care so Nazi's Rule can live. If their civilians are attacked we will do something about it.
Yatsumica
06-12-2004, 23:08
sorry but i cant give soldiers as pets...

ive tried to find someone sutable to fight, but they always check out my military budget and say no. so i kind of have to barge in on other peoples wars in order to do anything
UGSF
07-12-2004, 04:07
The UGSF is prepared to help the anti-nazi cause if the conference does not go well.
Nolofinwe
07-12-2004, 05:27
The Yatsumican Delegacy video phoned in to Mr. Somers
"Sir, it seems that you wou will be willing to let only your way be the right way. My people for instance have absolutely no rights, and any that speak up are routinely shot. In fact we have at least 3 executions per month just to show the citizens that they are not in control."

ok, then im afraid you are going to enjoy anything but good relations with my nation....
Nolofinwe
07-12-2004, 05:58
The Yatsumican Delegacy video phoned in to Mr. Somers
"Sir, it seems that you wou will be willing to let only your way be the right way. My people for instance have absolutely no rights, and any that speak up are routinely shot. In fact we have at least 3 executions per month just to show the citizens that they are not in control."

mr. somers replied...


"sir that's exactly what you want, your own way. you are unwilling to accept that your citizens are intelligent human beings and they have they're own opinions about what they think should happen in the government, and you are murdering them because of that. and that just shows me how weak you are that you cannot stand to have anyone disagree with you. there are many people in my nation who have some really absurd positions about what should happen with government policy, and it annoys me to death! and they debate between each other constantly, all from charles in fourth grade talking with his friend at callaway crossing elementary school to president with his cabinet! but that's great because it shows me that democracy is alive and well and the people have their say about what happens in nolofinwe and they are proud of it, because they know that their nation isn't run by some tyrant whose only there to accomplish his own goals. no sir it is you who are willing to let only your way be the right way."
Xenonier
07-12-2004, 09:58
mr. somers replied...
"sir that's exactly what you want, your own way. you are unwilling to accept that your citizens are intelligent human beings and they have they're own opinions about what they think should happen in the government, and you are murdering them because of that. and that just shows me how weak you are that you cannot stand to have anyone disagree with you. there are many people in my nation who have some really absurd positions about what should happen with government policy, and it annoys me to death! and they debate between each other constantly, all from charles in fourth grade talking with his friend at callaway crossing elementary school to president with his cabinet! but that's great because it shows me that democracy is alive and well and the people have their say about what happens in nolofinwe and they are proud of it, because they know that their nation isn't run by some tyrant whose only there to accomplish his own goals. no sir it is you who are willing to let only your way be the right way."

The Xenonian Delegate falls of his chair laughing.

"You honestly beleive in democracy? There's one problem with it. It doesn't work well unless you renge on certain rights. Why? Because the average joe doesn't have the brains or the time in a nation to devote time to learning about politics to actually contribute a learned opinion to the countries leadership. All anybody cares about is themselves, and then you have a nation of selfish fools. How is that any better than a dictatorship that gives people something to live for?"

"IDEALISM DOES NOTHING!"

"You either force people to be knowledgable and to be intelligent, and then make them work in a fair environment and contribute to democracy as Xenonier does, or democracy doesn't work. You either throw certain rights out the window (Ie, you cannot be an ignorant slob, you are force fed information) or nothing happens."

"And even Xenonier has problems because of our Socialist economy, the only way we ensure our people are "In the Know". At least a dictatorship avoids this. And in benevolent ditatorships things aren't bad at all."
Anglo-Saxon America
07-12-2004, 22:41
I haven't quite got what happened down, if someone will give me the short version of the history of this conflict, that will be most appreciated. What is important, in our view, is that a very close ally, that of Nolofinwe, feels he may be in need in the near future of major military help. As my nation is quite large and has a very large military, I willing to answer this request.

I am promising to my ally 7 million troops of my 8 million current active forces. These men are on standby and ready for transport at a moments notice. I have also activated all reserve forces, bringing my full military potential to 18 million men.

I am willing to enter the negotiations, but am also prepared to fight.

King Pat, Kingdom of Anglo-Saxon America
Nolofinwe
08-12-2004, 00:09
somers replied...

"the reason no one in your nation has an opinion is because they are afraid to! you have spent so much time in a dictatorship you don't seem to understand human nature. go out into your streets and ask people, i guarantee most the average joe will have an opinion about what's going on, you don't have to have a lot of knowledge to have an opinion!".....
Anglo-Saxon America
08-12-2004, 00:50
I currently do not have a delegate to the conferance and so cannot enter discussions, but please consider this offer:
I am willing to devote up to 3.5 Million troops to a peacekeeping mission in the area inorder to enforce whatever decisions the conference makes.

I will also deploy these troops, upon the request of the members of the conference, to enforce a cease fire in the area for the duration of the conference.
Communistic Nevada
08-12-2004, 01:14
tag
Electrazine
08-12-2004, 01:38
I'm prepared to help the anti nazi cause

I'll help Greganolia and their allies
Greganolia
08-12-2004, 01:46
Can we just agree to all help rbuild their nation.
The Burnsian Desert
08-12-2004, 01:49
OOC: This is a very... fun noob RP.

With that in mind, tag.
Anglo-Saxon America
08-12-2004, 03:19
Let me clarify my stance for a moment. I will not advocate rebuilding a new Nazi government. The people of this nation must choose a new government with completely new leaders. Therefore, I will not take any responsibility for helping to rebuild this nation if it is to be built back as it was before. In fact, my troops will invade to prevent that from happening. However, if the council decides to allow the people to completely reform their government, then I will support this with a peacekeeping mission. Otherwise, my offer to enforce a cease-fire still stands.
Nazis rule
08-12-2004, 06:42
OOC: I am really irratated by people like Anglo-Saxon America, who cares if my government is nazism, I did nothing to mu citizens. Hell I was attacked a day after I built my nation. Also I am not making a new government and no new leaders will be elected because Josephere Lakovisch will remain leader. So invade my country there is nothing left to invade, all you will be doing is killing my civilians and I don't think that goes well with people in here.
Pallawish
08-12-2004, 07:37
somers replied...

"the reason no one in your nation has an opinion is because they are afraid to! you have spent so much time in a dictatorship you don't seem to understand human nature. go out into your streets and ask people, i guarantee most the average joe will have an opinion about what's going on, you don't have to have a lot of knowledge to have an opinion!".....

I dont think if he went into the streets and asked an average joe his opinion, i dont think he would contradict u as ur the dictator lol. :p
Xenonier
08-12-2004, 12:06
somers replied...

"the reason no one in your nation has an opinion is because they are afraid to! you have spent so much time in a dictatorship you don't seem to understand human nature. go out into your streets and ask people, i guarantee most the average joe will have an opinion about what's going on, you don't have to have a lot of knowledge to have an opinion!".....

IC. The Xenonian Delegate looks amused

"Look at our UN Description, "Democractic Socialists"

You have addressed our concern with democracy. you don't have to have a lot of knowledge to have an opinion!".....[/ .

Not enough cared apart from their own, media stuffed, unresearched opinion. THey swing with the media, and care only about themselves because of Human Selfishness. But now, thanks to compulsory information downloads, they are not only increasingly informed about world politics, because they have no choice in avoiding them, but they are happier. Because of this, our own democractic system works with increasing efficiency. We don't have a problem with an opinion, we just refuse to let our people come up with underesearched and unproven opinions which can damage the nation."

"We make sure our people are subjected to the truth and that they cannot avoid it. Whether this incriminates the government, breaks people's hearts, is scary, breaks common assumptions or anything of the such is moot. We make sure they know what is happening. Only when people are forced to know everything about a given situation can they make a valid, honest, informed opinon, whether that goes against the government or not"

"As for Anglo Saxon America, Kryozerkia has every right to call you, or me, or pallawish, or just about anybody in this situation Puny. Kryozerkia's population is over 2.5 billion, and I believe your is merely 250+ million."

OOC. I've had just about enough with this thread. Seriously, I have. I can very clearly see the point the Ceaseless Dark made. You people are jumping on a nation with no way of defending itself, promising troops and war against a nation with no leader even inside the nation itself.

Ps. The Burnsian desert, you should offer some advice. I've seen your RPing, and it's pretty good. I, for one, would love some advice how to improve on this ... shambles.
The Ceasless Dark
08-12-2004, 23:43
Anglo-Saxon America, I'll step on you before you do anything.Nazis Rule is fine the way it is.(Leadership, still needs to be rebuilt) And you're being like him since you're not letting him pick his own government! I got 30 million troops, all my allies have lent me there weapons and troops, and I have another 5 million in reserves, you're not preventing anything.

Also, we do need some advice. I for one would like to learn HOW TO KEEP ALL THESE NEWBS THAT HAVE SEAMINGLY NEVER RPED IN THERE LIFE OUT OF THE GAME!!!!!

I'm just getting sick of it. If you're going to play, first watch and see whats going on. Don't make yourself look stupid. learn you're limitations, a small new nation isn't going to be sending 1 mill+ troops in. And last, learn HOW to RP. Do it for the rest of us....
The Burnsian Desert
09-12-2004, 00:39
OOC: ...and a November nation doesn't have 35 million troops either.
Pallawish
09-12-2004, 01:07
"Stop this.. why dont we just agree to leave Nazis Rule to fend for itself and not rebuild it for them. We dont need to fight but we also dont need to help this Nazi idiots rebuild their cities. Why dont we just leave Nazis Rule be?"

- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
The Ceasless Dark
09-12-2004, 03:58
Because if we let them be someone else will attack. And I personaly don't have that many troops. But my region of November states does!

And like I've stated before, each and everyone of them gives me there full support and arsanal!!November states unite!
Nolofinwe
09-12-2004, 06:45
dominick somers spoke to lord thomas....

"because if we let them be the next thing we know it's possible we could have a huge powerful nazi nation in power, oppressing millions of people and threatening other nations and possibly even us as we saw him threaten commandoes. so no im not going to just sit back and get comfortable and watch a nazi nation rebuild and re-arm itself and then wonder what happened when they are at our front door. that's been done way to often in the past, and we do not intend to make that mistake."

somers replied to xenonier....

"the problem with your system is that you are forcing them to believe the truth as you see it. but i do understand were you are coming from, i am a very active member of nolofinwe's conservative party, and i know full well how the media distorts the truth. but at the same time i cannot dictate to the media what to broadcast, even though a huge part of the media in my country is controlled by liberal buffoons who distort what i say and twist the facts constantly. and it infuriates me! but at the same time i see that's the beauty of democracy, the people have the right to examine the facts for themselves and come up with their own conclusions, to the extent that it does not discriminate or harm other people because of they're race of ethnic origin. i understand what your saying, that people are so wrapped up in they're false media stuffed, unresearched opinion. but still you cannot force people to believe the truth."
Xenonier
09-12-2004, 10:54
somers replied to xenonier....

"the problem with your system is that you are forcing them to believe the truth as you see it. but i do understand were you are coming from, i am a very active member of nolofinwe's conservative party, and i know full well how the media distorts the truth. but at the same time i cannot dictate to the media what to broadcast, even though a huge part of the media in my country is controlled by liberal buffoons who distort what i say and twist the facts constantly. and it infuriates me! but at the same time i see that's the beauty of democracy, the people have the right to examine the facts for themselves and come up with their own conclusions, to the extent that it does not discriminate or harm other people because of they're race of ethnic origin. i understand what your saying, that people are so wrapped up in they're false media stuffed, unresearched opinion. but still you cannot force people to believe the truth."

You cannot force people to believe the truth - but we ensure they are given the truth to evaluate, whether they like it or not.

Hence there is no media in Xenonier, but that is another topic for another day.
Yatsumica
09-12-2004, 21:52
i've still got those couple million troops in nazis rule. while they arent any help at building (or as a work force of any kind) they are there to defend at all costs.
Anglo-Saxon America
09-12-2004, 23:12
Anglo-Saxon America, I'll step on you before you do anything.Nazis Rule is fine the way it is.(Leadership, still needs to be rebuilt) And you're being like him since you're not letting him pick his own government! I got 30 million troops, all my allies have lent me there weapons and troops, and I have another 5 million in reserves, you're not preventing anything.



My personal interest in this conflict is to see peace and stability restored as soon as possible. I entered to defend an ally who fealt threatened. I am not claiming I am here to freedom-fight or push for pure democracy, that would be hypocritical as my nation is not a democracy but a kingdom, though I offer my people a significant level of input in their government.
However, I do claim to be here to offer aid in ending this conflict. Apparently the regime in question was unable to ensure peace and stability in their nation, or to defend their people. If we allow that regime to stand, end negotiations, and leave, this country will fall into the ranks of third world nations engaged in self-destructive internal struggles. The people of this land, I am sure, have lost confidence in their leadership after this war. I believe the best way to draw an end to the conflict and assure the future survival and success of the nation is to allow the people to select a new form of government with new leaders. I don't particularly care what form of government or who the leaders are, but something apparently needs to change.


As for my RPing, I do not have a delegate at the conference, and do not plan on sending one in the near future. Therefore, all of these posts are ultimately in the form of a written statement sent to the conference through diplomatic channels.
Anglo-Saxon America
09-12-2004, 23:20
i've still got those couple million troops in nazis rule. while they arent any help at building (or as a work force of any kind) they are there to defend at all costs.

What we should be doing, since all parties involved seem interested in the reconstruction of this nation, is using our forces to rebuild while we debate the type of government to put in place. I have 3.5 million men waiting for the word, and would be glad to use them for reconstruction while negotiations continue. If requested, they will come.

Furthermore, my entry into this conflict seems to have pushed everyone closer to restarting violent conflict. I would like to reiterate that at this point, that does nothing but turn this into a huge global war. To lead the way in trying to keep this on the level of peaceful negotiations, I have returned half of the ten million reserves I called up to reserve duty. My active foces are now at 13, not 18 million.
Xenonier
10-12-2004, 09:51
My personal interest in this conflict is to see peace and stability restored as soon as possible. I entered to defend an ally who fealt threatened. I am not claiming I am here to freedom-fight or push for pure democracy, that would be hypocritical as my nation is not a democracy but a kingdom, though I offer my people a significant level of input in their government.
However, I do claim to be here to offer aid in ending this conflict. Apparently the regime in question was unable to ensure peace and stability in their nation, or to defend their people. If we allow that regime to stand, end negotiations, and leave, this country will fall into the ranks of third world nations engaged in self-destructive internal struggles. The people of this land, I am sure, have lost confidence in their leadership after this war. I believe the best way to draw an end to the conflict and assure the future survival and success of the nation is to allow the people to select a new form of government with new leaders. I don't particularly care what form of government or who the leaders are, but something apparently needs to change.


.

Communique sent form Xenonian High command to Anglo Saxon America.

"The nation of Nazis rule made every effort to defend itself. however, it complicates things that when you were attacked, you only had a population of 5 million and a nation with 2.5, probably 3 billion (Now anyway) was attacking you. I'd like to see any regime protect themselves from such numbers"
Anglo-Saxon America
10-12-2004, 22:17
I declare war on Nazis Rule. I do this for his threat to destroy me and North Western Germany and other allies.


Comunique to Peace Confernce
from Anglo-Saxon America Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

In response to statement by Xenonier:

It appears to this government that the war was instigated by Nazis Rule. Therefore, we again affirm our statement that this regime was unable to ensure peace and stability and is unable to maintain the confidence of its people, and therfore a regime change is neccessary to end this conflict and allow this state to become successful in the future.
We believe that the best way to do this is to allow the people of Nazis Rule to elect a conference to rewrite their constitution.

This government has also reached the conclusion, from further study of this incident, that it is not in our interest to take part in a conference negotiating the future of this state, but we do offer assistence in reconstruction and logistical assistance in the removal of foces belonging to both sides from this nation. We also offer our forces as security for any elections that may be held. However, we leave the nature and the timetable of these elections to the judgement of the conference.
Zotrannsia
11-12-2004, 03:41
OOC: I'm on the sidelines in this conflict, but I do have something of an Idea what happened.

Nazi's Rule made a threat to Commandoes, for whatever reason. However, to utilise orbital based laser weaponry to deal with a 5 million population nation as Commandoes and it's allies did cannot be blamed on the Nazi's rule Regime. Have you ever asked why they did this, or what occured?

Futhermore, it can be said of the poor quality of Commandoes leadership if they find it nessecary to commit such a massive attack force on a tiny threat, with any declaration of War beforehand, just a threat from a puny nation. Nazis Rule made a threat and it's enemies grossly overreacted, causing much more than "Collaterall Damage".
Lower Freedonia
11-12-2004, 06:10
Preliminary findings:

G-Corp was the first nation to introduce futuretech into the conflict, but whether this constitutes a violation of wartime convention we cannot be sure. At the time it was gradually accepted.

The actual war proceeded smoothly and coherently to a solid conclusion, with Nazis Rule apparently defeated. At post #109, Daimosa initiated a campaign to liberate the conquered nation for- well Nazism in general. It fielded an initial force of 300,000 heavy assault mechs.

Things got ugly shortly afterward, as G-corp attempted to introduce anti-matter missiles and glass cannons. Then Ceaseless Dark brought in the Yamato Busters, and Daimosa equipped its troops with unotanium armor. Accusations of Godmoding began to fly. Consensus about what exactly was happening gradually unravelled, until we reached our current state.

We are willing to accept that all the technology claimed by all sides of the conflict does exist in working order. This will set a common ground for negotiations.
Nolofinwe
11-12-2004, 06:12
ooc: yea, i do not agree with how commandoes went about going to war, they should have first tried negotiations and used war only when negotiation was no longer possible. but even though i do not agree with what they did, it is still possible to justify commandoe's actions because of the threat that nazis rule issued. i would like to again ask nazis rule to release the contents of this threat in order for us to be better able to analyze the current state of this conflict and to decide what measures should be taken against you or, in the case of some nations involved, on your behalf. but by not releasing it i will take that as saying basically that the threat you issued was a large one and therefore you should be extinguished permanently. however if you do release the content and it proves to be a minor threat, and you are willing to discuss democratic elections and government reform as my ally anglo-saxon america suggested, i will withdraw my declaration of war and the only measures i will take will be to keep a close eye on you. so zotrannsia, i guess the answer to your question on why commandoes took such heavy militaristic measures against nazis rule depends on how serious of a threat they were, and the only way to evaluate that is to find out what kind of a threat was made...
Lower Freedonia
11-12-2004, 06:17
It is the opinion of this delegate that consensus over futuretech, especially that which claims to be more powerful than anything else on the field, ought to be obtained before such technology is introduced. Preferably this should happen before the war proper begins, though we realize it will not always be feasible when a nation intervenes after war has begun.
Xenonier
11-12-2004, 12:25
It is the opinion of this delegate that consensus over futuretech, especially that which claims to be more powerful than anything else on the field, ought to be obtained before such technology is introduced. Preferably this should happen before the war proper begins, though we realize it will not always be feasible when a nation intervenes after war has begun.

OOC:

I must agree. However, In the intrests of keeping the thread moving, I suggest when and only when the Negotiations are over we discuss this, and then ditch the thread. If war is the outcome, we start another thread for war, as this is getting long.

Finally, thanks for trying to salvage the threat people. :)

Alright, Ic discussion now.

Xenonian Statement to Nolofinwe.

I agree with your calls for a declaration of this threat, but cmon. Nazis rule was 1 DAY OLD! How can commandoes, with the G-corp alliance (2.5 Billion people, please!) ever consider such a massive responce to a threat from a baby? I mean, that's way over cracking a egg with a nuke.

It's insane.
UGSF
11-12-2004, 17:26
ooc: yea, i do not agree with how commandoes went about going to war, they should have first tried negotiations and used war only when negotiation was no longer possible. but even though i do not agree with what they did, it is still possible to justify commandoe's actions because of the threat that nazis rule issued. i would like to again ask nazis rule to release the contents of this threat in order for us to be better able to analyze the current state of this conflict and to decide what measures should be taken against you or, in the case of some nations involved, on your behalf. but by not releasing it i will take that as saying basically that the threat you issued was a large one and therefore you should be extinguished permanently. however if you do release the content and it proves to be a minor threat, and you are willing to discuss democratic elections and government reform as my ally anglo-saxon america suggested, i will withdraw my declaration of war and the only measures i will take will be to keep a close eye on you. so zotrannsia, i guess the answer to your question on why commandoes took such heavy militaristic measures against nazis rule depends on how serious of a threat they were, and the only way to evaluate that is to find out what kind of a threat was made...


If you refer to the records on page 1 you will see that Commandoes tried to negotiate. Nazis Rule did surrender then stupidly "changed his mind". Even before Commandoes said he was deploying Abrams to his nation Commandoes told Tylinoa that he had sent telegrams to nazis rule to try stop the war. But I have even been told by Greganolia that in reply telegrams The Nazis used a interesting amount of violent words.
The Ceasless Dark
11-12-2004, 22:08
see it wasn't just commandos and G corp ether. many other nations made threats at Nazis rule as well. I'm sure with odds stacked so high agenst him negotiations wouldn't have gone well. He would have had absolutly no say. And, thus, loseing almost everything his extremely small nation at the time had. It was probly best for him to try and go down fighting. That would at least give a thousand time to excape(Which they did) For a while I don't think anyone stood up for him. I think I did but I was only a day or two old then as well
Anglo-Saxon America
12-12-2004, 00:09
The government of Anglo-Saxon America, as well as, we are confidenct, a consensus of the nations represented at the peace conference, requests the ruling parties of Nazis Rule disclose the exact nature of threats made towards the nation of Commandoes and the reasons for giving these threats. This information may well determine the future course of negotiations.
Anglo-Saxon America
12-12-2004, 00:13
Anglo-Saxon America would like to inquire as to whether or not there remain any troops of the nation Commandoes or any other nation in their region insided the conventional borders of Nazis Rule.
If so, we would request that these forces be removed as quickly as possible, as this may be a great step in preventing future reimergance of hostilities in this conflict.
Xenonier
12-12-2004, 09:46
The government of Anglo-Saxon America, as well as, we are confidenct, a consensus of the nations represented at the peace conference, requests the ruling parties of Nazis Rule disclose the exact nature of threats made towards the nation of Commandoes and the reasons for giving these threats. This information may well determine the future course of negotiations.

OOC. Have you tried a telegram to him?
The Ceasless Dark
12-12-2004, 18:08
OOC: yeah..he hasn't been on the thread in a while
Nolofinwe
13-12-2004, 04:43
I agree with your calls for a declaration of this threat, but cmon. Nazis rule was 1 DAY OLD! How can commandoes, with the G-corp alliance (2.5 Billion people, please!) ever consider such a massive responce to a threat from a baby? I mean, that's way over cracking a egg with a nuke.

ooc: exactly! that was an intelligent move on the part of commandoes. they destroyed nazis rule before it became a large nation so that it couldn't grow. think about it if nazis rule had made a threat when his nation was a day old who knows what kind of stuff he would do with a nation the size of g-corps?
Xenonier
13-12-2004, 08:10
I agree with your calls for a declaration of this threat, but cmon. Nazis rule was 1 DAY OLD! How can commandoes, with the G-corp alliance (2.5 Billion people, please!) ever consider such a massive responce to a threat from a baby? I mean, that's way over cracking a egg with a nuke.

ooc: exactly! that was an intelligent move on the part of commandoes. they destroyed nazis rule before it became a large nation so that it couldn't grow. think about it if nazis rule had made a threat when his nation was a day old who knows what kind of stuff he would do with a nation the size of g-corps?

Xenonian responce.

There are Nazi Nations the Size of G - Corp. There are probably larger, should you ever take a peek at the "Largest Nation" reports posted by the UN. They should be your targets.

Intelligent? Using Masses of Bombers, Tanks and Laser cannons to cause heinious civilian casualties is intelligent? Utterly slaughtering a nation that had yet to even act against the comments made by the regime, had yet to even debate the actions of it's regime is intelligent? If anything, it will only make the civilians hate you.

Having no Negotiations about what could have been a very dangerous subject is intelligent? I think not! Diplomacy is an essentiall part of warfare, something Commandoes and his ilk did not provide.

There are far better ways to neutralise such a threat.

OOC: I could understand the use of Subterfuge, small elite teams of commandoes, a small incision - but a force of that size is insane. It's a Roleplay people. It could work to actually give the other person some fun, rather than watching their one day old nation be annihilated. And that's what ticks me off.
Zozombia
13-12-2004, 12:33
I agree with your calls for a declaration of this threat, but cmon. Nazis rule was 1 DAY OLD! How can commandoes, with the G-corp alliance (2.5 Billion people, please!) ever consider such a massive responce to a threat from a baby? I mean, that's way over cracking a egg with a nuke.

ooc: exactly! that was an intelligent move on the part of commandoes. they destroyed nazis rule before it became a large nation so that it couldn't grow. think about it if nazis rule had made a threat when his nation was a day old who knows what kind of stuff he would do with a nation the size of g-corps?

You shot your own point down in flames. Of flaming stuff.

Nobody in their right mind would attack a technologically superior nation much larger than you, particularly if they had a 2.5 Billion Population ally who was FT, when they were so far behind.

Nobody in their right mind. The threat could not exist, as even if Nazi's Rule grew, it could never hope to be a major threat to Commandoes (Which now has 337 million) compared to Nazi's Rules 50 millon.

No contest.
Anglo-Saxon America
13-12-2004, 23:27
To be made Publicly Available to the Conference:

You are to command a Royal Expeditionary Force to Nazis Rule.

The intentions of this force are to be entirely PEACEFUL. You are to in no way instigate or engage in combat unless first attacked militantly.

This force will consist of two divisions:
1- 4th Engineers, Commanded by Brig General Mathew Duncan.
2- 7th Logistics, Commanded by Brig General Joel Davis.

Assignment:
I. Official Policy of Anglo-Saxon America:
We are neutral in this conflict, excepting the following points:
1) Government of Nazis Rule is to reveal nature and reasons for threat issued to Commandos which instigated conflict.
2) Citizens of Nazis Rule be allowed to elect a council to review and, if they deem it neccessary, revise their constitution, specifically thosed sections dealing with diplomacy, qualifications for leadership, and selection of leaders.
3) All forces of the Commandoes or from their region be removed from Nazi rule if they still remain as soon as possible.

You are to take no military actions supporting these points. You are to take no actions whatsoever that would provoke either side to armed conflict.

II. Actions to be Taken:
1) Asses military tenison of forces in Nazis Rule, or in your opinion the probability of armed action occurring and the military state of affairs in the area.
2) Asses logistical requirments in removing foreign forces from Nazis Rule, including any neccessary protective forces for convoys organized for such a purpose.
3) Asses humanitarian impact of conflict on people of Nazis Rule, and amount of aid neccessary to relieve this need.
4) Asses magnitude of reconstructing infrustructure of Nazis Rule.

III. Reporting:
1) Reports should be made directly to the Minister of Foreign Affaris, Minister of War, and His Royal Highness, King Patric Longshanks.
2) A final report should be presented to the above persons, and the conference, in person if possible.
3) If requested, you are to report personally to the conferance and/or the leaders of Nazis Rule to justify any actions you have taken. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is directed to provide all neccessary assistence in this event.

IV. Secondary Objective:
If time and opportunity warrants, you are to negtiate with officials of Nazis Rule for the establishment of an embassy there and the opening of regular diplomatic channels.

PURPOSE of ASSIGNMENT:
This mission ultimately hopes to achieve the aquiring of neccessary information to prepared and dispatch a force for reconstruction and peacekeeping purposes, including neccessary materials, numbers of men, and equipment, as well as the neccessary amounts of protection.


May the Lord Bless your mission with Success and Protection,

Godspeed,

Joseph Bellarmin, Minister of War
Nicholas Rochester, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Patric Longshanks, King of Anglo-Saxon America
The Ceasless Dark
14-12-2004, 00:36
we all need to give Nazis rule at least some credit. As a day old nation he held his own for a bit. Also, This how thing started because he was a day old. I'm guessing the threat was a newb action to the core. And he probly didn't know the rules very well
Pallawish
14-12-2004, 08:25
I agree with your calls for a declaration of this threat, but cmon. Nazis rule was 1 DAY OLD! How can commandoes, with the G-corp alliance (2.5 Billion people, please!) ever consider such a massive responce to a threat from a baby? I mean, that's way over cracking a egg with a nuke.

ooc: exactly! that was an intelligent move on the part of commandoes. they destroyed nazis rule before it became a large nation so that it couldn't grow. think about it if nazis rule had made a threat when his nation was a day old who knows what kind of stuff he would do with a nation the size of g-corps?

"True true, it was very intelligent. you can't blame commandoes, they did the right thing. If it wasnt for these hippies we could of already destroyed this nation. As soon as my nation is bigger i will eliminate these hippy nations. Hmm.. my sources tell me these peaceful nations are not as big as i expected and so I may be able to eliminate these losers..."

- Spoken By Lord Thomas II *Drunk*
Pallawish
14-12-2004, 08:39
"HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! My nation has even more people than commandoes!
We will crush all these peaceful nations, you think you can just ignore all I have said! The Pallawish Nation is far superior to your own! Do not go around pretending you are strong and can supply aid and defense while my arm is such bigger in comparison and can completely destroy your nations! I say let The Pallawish Nation and Nolofinwe Nation tell you what to do! WE WILL DECIDE THE FATE OF THIS NATION! NOT YOUR PUNY NATIONS!"

For The Pallawish!!!!!
- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
*completely drunk but never the less telling the truth*
Xenonier
14-12-2004, 13:13
"HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! My nation has even more people than commandoes!
We will crush all these peaceful nations, you think you can just ignore all I have said! The Pallawish Nation is far superior to your own! Do not go around pretending you are strong and can supply aid and defense while my arm is such bigger in comparison and can completely destroy your nations! I say let The Pallawish Nation and Nolofinwe Nation tell you what to do! WE WILL DECIDE THE FATE OF THIS NATION! NOT YOUR PUNY NATIONS!"

For The Pallawish!!!!!
- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
*completely drunk but never the less telling the truth*

Xenonian Responce.

Lord Thomas II, I ask of you to consider the facts of the matter before anything stupid.

Kryozerkia.

2.6+ billion

Pallawish + Nolofinwe

520+ millon

Oh dear. That's a big disadvantage in numbers (As Kryozerkia is the military clout behind the defence of Nazis Rule). Combine that with the fact your cannot commit all your forces to the battle as to defend your homeland, and you are in deep trouble should you invade us, let alone Nazis Rule or Kyrozerkia. After all, act the bigshot and every little guy will gang up on you, and you will go down. It's our alliances that make us strong, not schoolyard bully-boy tactics. Stop drinking, despite how much fun it is and talk to me sober so we can discuss things. Peace would be an excellent option for us all, avoding the economic and political raminifcations.

And if you are willing to attack Hippie nations - then Nolofinwe is a target if we are. We are ready to defend our intrests, as is Nolofinwe. Therefore you have attacked your own ally. Commandoes and it's allies (Which are bigger and more powerful than you with the addition of G-corp) are also your enemies, as they have stopped attacks.

Arkady Gregorovich. (While completely sober).
The Ceasless Dark
14-12-2004, 14:21
HEY HEY HEY!! DON"T FORGET THE REST US!!!! Yeah .

1. I'm no F***en 'hippie' nation. Just like the people who die to at least be using weapons.

2. I'm not JUST one nation ether. I'm controling 4 40+mill nations and another one if hes willing to lend me his support! So dont count us out yet!
Nazis rule
14-12-2004, 18:20
OOC: this conflict is growing ever more hostile. We need to stop this now, so I have this to say. Nazis back then was a newb nation and did not know the rules. Yes I did threat Commandoes but was not expecting war, I was trying to scare him, but as you all know I was the one who made the dumb mistake of picking on a 300+ million nation. All I ask is that my nation can be rebuilt and that this conflict is terminated. I also thank all my allies who supported me in this conflict, though now you might hate my guts for making you loose military and/or cilvilian lives. I apologize to Commandoes, though I still disike you, we can settle this over by you signing the peace treaty.

OOC2: Where has Commandoes been anyways?
Pallawish
14-12-2004, 23:23
*yawn* I have other supporters too which are much stronger than myself, hippies"

- Spoken by Lord Thomas II
The Ceasless Dark
14-12-2004, 23:54
good for you
Xenonier
15-12-2004, 03:47
*yawn* I have other supporters too which are much stronger than myself, hippies"

- Spoken by Lord Thomas II

Xenonian Responce.

See, if you had any sense of honour at all, you would engage countries with a population near yours or a coalition with a population near yours. As for the Pallaw Pacific and tropico, I've done some cruching.

What Kryozerkia can summon up (Which is probably going to involve several multi billion pop nations)

2.6+ Billion plus.

Now, The combined populations of Pallawish and his probable allies.

3.508 billion.

Now, what I can call on.

2.980 billion.

Ceasless dark.

223 million+.

Total forces population willing to defend ourselves so far, not including whatever Kryozerkia could summon.

EDIT. Oh, I forgot Yatsumica. He's itching for a fight and I betcha I could get him as well.

7.000 billion.

Take into account most of our nations are future tech, which would mean our armies could be larger and require less maintennance, the advantages of defending and terrain, and this could get far too messy. This isn't being a hippie, it's realising that we all probably have enemies, and we will only weaken ourselves from fighting over a tiny nation.

OOC: So I propose another solution. We all shut up, leave Nazi's Rule alone and transform them into a benevolent dictatorship that isn't Nazist, and then we all go away and find people who really want to fight over pointless things. Because if this comes to war with a drunken fool who likes labelling people for no reason at all, and without the proper evidence, I'm outta here. Pallawish has even labelled his own ally a hippie ,and this is getting really stupid. We agreed on a damn peace conference.

I certainly didn't come into this conflict wanting to fight it out, and I still don't want to. I'll fight major wars with people who aren't complete and utter trouble stirrers, and that's how I like roleplays. One I reach a nation of Pallawish's size, I'll get into wars on the fly.

So, I suggest we ditch this thread, and open with a proper, efficient, invite RP thread that excludes the catfighting. Anybody with me?
Anglo-Saxon America
15-12-2004, 04:40
OOC: this conflict is growing ever more hostile. We need to stop this now, so I have this to say. Nazis back then was a newb nation and did not know the rules. Yes I did threat Commandoes but was not expecting war, I was trying to scare him, but as you all know I was the one who made the dumb mistake of picking on a 300+ million nation. All I ask is that my nation can be rebuilt and that this conflict is terminated. I also thank all my allies who supported me in this conflict, though now you might hate my guts for making you loose military and/or cilvilian lives. I apologize to Commandoes, though I still disike you, we can settle this over by you signing the peace treaty.

OOC2: Where has Commandoes been anyways?


I agree that was pretty foolish. However, we are willing to help, though maybe not 100% the way you want. Once the REF completes its assessment, we will dispatch a force to convoy out all foreign troops from Nazis Rule, which will hopefully forestall a major war between some large nations over a small country, which we seem to all agree should be avoided.

Next we will begin immediate reconstruction of Nazis Rule's infrastructure and undertake the provision of humanitarian aid to those in the war-torn regions.

All we ask in return is that you allow the people to revise the constitution to make a future incident like this next to impossible. If they increase human rights a bit in the process, we have no objection...
Pallawish
15-12-2004, 05:18
Xenonian Responce.

See, if you had any sense of honour at all, you would engage countries with a population near yours or a coalition with a population near yours. As for the Pallaw Pacific and tropico, I've done some cruching.

What Kryozerkia can summon up (Which is probably going to involve several multi billion pop nations)

2.6+ Billion plus.

Now, The combined populations of Pallawish and his probable allies.

3.508 billion.

Now, what I can call on.

2.980 billion.

Ceasless dark.

223 million+.

Total forces population willing to defend ourselves so far, not including whatever Kryozerkia could summon.

EDIT. Oh, I forgot Yatsumica. He's itching for a fight and I betcha I could get him as well.

7.000 billion.

Take into account most of our nations are future tech, which would mean our armies could be larger and require less maintennance, the advantages of defending and terrain, and this could get far too messy. This isn't being a hippie, it's realising that we all probably have enemies, and we will only weaken ourselves from fighting over a tiny nation.

OOC: So I propose another solution. We all shut up, leave Nazi's Rule alone and transform them into a benevolent dictatorship that isn't Nazist, and then we all go away and find people who really want to fight over pointless things. Because if this comes to war with a drunken fool who likes labelling people for no reason at all, and without the proper evidence, I'm outta here. Pallawish has even labelled his own ally a hippie ,and this is getting really stupid. We agreed on a damn peace conference.

I certainly didn't come into this conflict wanting to fight it out, and I still don't want to. I'll fight major wars with people who aren't complete and utter trouble stirrers, and that's how I like roleplays. One I reach a nation of Pallawish's size, I'll get into wars on the fly.

So, I suggest we ditch this thread, and open with a proper, efficient, invite RP thread that excludes the catfighting. Anybody with me?

"fine... I dont know what I was smoking when I said those things,Anyway The Pallawish Nation doesnt want war right now... Did you say The Pallaw Pacific and Tropico were my only allys? Wow you have underestimated the threat of our many allys which do not lie within the Pallawish Controlled Regions."

- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
*Sorry*

OOC: so sorry but my ally is a hippie! Not that being a hippie is err... bad i suppose. But i dont like hippies who are not my allies. i agree, why dont we ditch this thread and get into one where there are no catfights and either ends in complete peace or a full out war.
Zell-snake
15-12-2004, 05:30
we should ga aginst the mother fucking JEWS yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Pallawish
15-12-2004, 05:40
we should ga aginst the mother fucking JEWS yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

u racist loser, im gunna declare war against this guy. any1 wanna stop me?
Xenonier
15-12-2004, 05:44
u racist loser, im gunna declare war against this guy. any1 wanna stop me?

Arkady Gregorovich's Transmission to Lord Thomas II

Hell no. I could if I wanted to, but I agree with you. And I guessed you had more allies, i'm pretty sure I could mobilise more myself, including Nazi Europe. But it's all just bluff and bluster anyhows.

PS. Give me some of that stuff you were smoking please. :p

STOP THE PRESS!

I propose, instead of attacking Nazis Rule, who hasn't taken any action, we agree to peace and attack this guy! Who's with me?
Pallawish
15-12-2004, 05:48
"The Pallawish are with you!"
Pallawish
15-12-2004, 05:55
I checked... this nation is going around posting stupid things on the boards. We must put a stop to this lunatic and his nation! :p
Xenonier
15-12-2004, 06:04
I checked... this nation is going around posting stupid things on the boards. We must put a stop to this lunatic and his nation! :p

OOC: I guess. Although if it's really bad stuff, we should go to moderation and ask for vengance from the higher ups.
Pallawish
15-12-2004, 09:57
Dont need to. I think people already have, oh and he made a bad thread and a mod commented on what it said... BUSTED!
The Ceasless Dark
15-12-2004, 14:22
yaww I wanted to kick his sorry ass. But if we still can lets attack!!!
Anglo-Saxon America
16-12-2004, 00:30
I propose, instead of attacking Nazis Rule, who hasn't taken any action, we agree to peace and attack this guy! Who's with me?


Start the thread, I'll join up. And I can vouch for Nolofinwe, he'll fight along.
No mercy or negotiations this time, just all out destruction of the enemy :eek: :mp5: :D
Pallawish
16-12-2004, 01:26
:mp5: I agree :mp5: For The Pallawish!!! :mp5:
The Ceasless Dark
16-12-2004, 03:51
yes. No more fighten over this. So I guess its true that the world just needs more asses to hate. Ok start the thread!!
Chinlanikistan
16-12-2004, 04:15
Worst..RP..Thread..Ever.

Ill play your way.

I send 400000 tanks to your country.
I shoot people with them.
They Die.
I shoot buildings with them.
They collapse.
I win.
Pallawish
16-12-2004, 04:41
Worst..RP..Thread..Ever.

Ill play your way.

I send 400000 tanks to your country.
I shoot people with them.
They Die.
I shoot buildings with them.
They collapse.
I win.

No this isnt the worst RP Thread Ever. The RP you just typed is thw worst ever.
Xenonier
16-12-2004, 05:19
Worst..RP..Thread..Ever.

Ill play your way.

I send 400000 tanks to your country.
I shoot people with them.
They Die.
I shoot buildings with them.
They collapse.
I win.

Thankyou for actually giving constuctive criticisim to this thread. What with the fact we weren't part of the actual war, and are now trying to salvage the thread, it's great to see you are attempting to help in any way.
Nazis rule
16-12-2004, 05:48
OOC: I am starting a new thread tommorow for the peace confrence it will be invite only, I don't want these cat fights anymore. You will probably be recieveing a TG if you are invited.
German Faith Movement
16-12-2004, 06:20
Nazi Rule i am a small nation myself i can only afford to send you 2000 troops from my 36th Waffen Grenadier SS Division. :mp5: and 50 Panzers from my 2nd SS Panzer Division ( Das Reich Division ). if needed. hopefully Nazi Europe will now see i was not a spy only a fellow Nazi and as my motto says "Meine Ehre heisst Treue"

Signed
Furher of The Holy Empire of German Faith Movement


14/88 :sniper:
Pallawish
16-12-2004, 06:27
Nazi Rule i am a small nation myself i can only afford to send you 2000 troops from my 36th Waffen Grenadier SS Division. :mp5: and 50 Panzers from my 2nd SS Panzer Division ( Das Reich Division ). if needed. hopefully Nazi Europe will now see i was not a spy only a fellow Nazi and as my motto says "Meine Ehre heisst Treue"

Signed
Furher of The Holy Empire of German Faith Movement


14/88 :sniper:

no need as the war is over but.. Im sure The Nation Of Nazis Rule is thankful.
German Faith Movement
16-12-2004, 06:31
damn it im always freakin too late sorry dude
Nazis rule
16-12-2004, 06:40
OOC: Np, thx for the support though. But it was already to late for my nation, right now it is in ruins. Hopefully to be rebuilt though. I am sure that NAZI EUROPE will probably not think of you as a spy now, trying to help me out and all. Thx again.
Pallawish
16-12-2004, 07:13
Can you make that thread?
Xenonier
16-12-2004, 14:45
OOC: I am starting a new thread tommorow for the peace confrence it will be invite only, I don't want these cat fights anymore. You will probably be recieveing a TG if you are invited.

Finally this debacle can head to a proper conclusion.
Anglo-Saxon America
16-12-2004, 22:18
OOC: Np, thx for the support though. But it was already to late for my nation, right now it is in ruins. Hopefully to be rebuilt though. I am sure that NAZI EUROPE will probably not think of you as a spy now, trying to help me out and all. Thx again.


Due to population growth, my active forces now number 11 million men, divided into 11 'armies' of one million each. I will dispatch my first army for reconstruction and peacekeeping forces. Then I plan to send armies 2 through 8 after whoever that racist freek was the other day...
Did anybody start that thread, by the way? If not, I may go ahead and get it started. Y'all are welcome to join in, let's beet the stuffing out of him.
Anglo-Saxon America
16-12-2004, 22:23
Zell-Snake, that's who it was. Anybody else up for destroying him? He's only got a pop of 280 million.
The Ceasless Dark
17-12-2004, 03:29
only. And anglo saxon guy, I would think we'd learn be now that send MORE troopsin isn't going to help. The violence is over. I suggest a good ol' fashoned spammer hunt!
Pallawish
17-12-2004, 08:53
yay i like those