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The Emperial Goverment of the Alexian Empire is proposing a bold new union of nations.

The Unified Defence Frontier would be an alliance of sovereign nations, close allies, for trade, progress, and communal defence. Members of the Alliance would help each other in times of need, and defend each other in the event of attack, aswell as helping our allied goverments against internal enemies.

Those in the Alliance would strenghten economic ties, and help each other to grow and prosper.

All in the alliance would have a say in actions concerning it, and decisions would be chaired by the Alexian Empire as acting president. All nations are welcome, small and large, we welcome you.

The only exceptions are nations that propagate and aim towards the dominance of one perticular race or ethnicity(religion based goverments are allowed so long as their religious ideals do not interfere with progress)or those who try to bring upon anarchy, who we could not allow in the union, as such decisions,actions and beliefs are counter-productive and stand in the way of progress. But all others are allowed and encouraged to join us.

This union will cross ideologies and goverments. Democratic, dictatorial, monarchaicle, theorocratic, it does not concern us. Be you capitalist, communist, foolish, as long as you are prepared to activly participate in the protection and increased dominance and prosperity of the alliance, you will likely be welcomed in.


Simply tell me some things about your country, it's culture and people, and it's goverment and society, and why you want to join the alliance, and we shall decided weather you are ready to become part of this glorious alliance.


We also encourage you to set up embassies with all members of the alliance, and the Alexian Empire, even if you are not qualified or accepted.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375174


It is the dawning of a new age, a new era, and hopefully, you have the wisdom to side with a faction that will come out on top.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393569&page=1&pp=15

Caps Lock

Caps Lock.

I will join.

Our country information -

Official Government Type (despite NS name) - Democratic
Heads of State - President Sarah Mczuno, Vice-President Mina Alhim,
Prime Minister Misty Alhim and Vice-Prime Minister Micuel Asolum.

Civil Rights - Average
Economy - Imploded
Political Freedoms - Few

Goals - To help where help is needed and to improve relations with foreign Nations to prevent misunderstandings from leading to war.

The New KSC has 4 main religious persuasion: Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism.
Even if religion plays a big role in The New KSC sociaty it does not directly effect the political parties, since stat and religion is seperated and religious aggumentations are often frozen upon when used in the Parliament.
Religion is free and no religion has the right to force their opinion on others.
The sociaty of The New KSC is often view as cynical by foreigners and crime is unknown.
The New KSC temperarily suffer from internal conflicts, do to a case of corruption against a minister and do to the Minister of Foreign Affairs' recent illness. (This post http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374560)

As I said before, next time please post the info about your nation. But, seeing as I already know you from your other posts, you have been accepted. Congradulations and welcome to the Glorious Alliance.

Feel free to still post the info if you like.

I encourage you, also, to apply for an embassy in the link above.

Current members: The Alexian Empire
The New KSC

Come on now...

I added the Info, I had not read your post closely enough the first time. I have an embassy, it is being build remember?

oh yah....sorry about that, I forget things sometimes.


Ok.


Welcome to the glorious alliance, may we prosper in unity!


(Yo, man, you from Denemark? I have a question if you could humour me. Learning English is a bitch, no?)

English is easy, now learning German is hard. I have English on the highest level here in the gymnasium anyway, (gymnasium roughly similar to am. senior high school)

Saxanada is interested in joining this alliance. I dont have much rp exp, but I can figure it out.

Nation info:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/

Short version:

We are a nation of 1.053 billion hard-nosed capitalists, with a big military. Our economy is frightening, as the good of the economy reigns supreme, with the military being a close second. Religion is not an issue in the government, and the people can practice if they want. Our ruler is the Almighty Ace. If you desire anymore information, let me know.

The Almighty Ace,
Ruler of Saxanada

English is easy, now learning German is hard. I have English on the highest level here in the gymnasium anyway, (gymnasium roughly similar to am. senior high school)


Oh. I can only imagine how hard it would be to learn either language. The only language I learned is French, and it is latin based, so I had no trouble.

Saxanada is interested in joining this alliance. I dont have much rp exp, but I can figure it out.

Nation info:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/

Short version:

We are a nation of 1.053 billion hard-nosed capitalists, with a big military. Our economy is frightening, as the good of the economy reigns supreme, with the military being a close second. Religion is not an issue in the government, and the people can practice if they want. Our ruler is the Almighty Ace. If you desire anymore information, let me know.

The Almighty Ace,
Ruler of Saxanada


Sounds good. Do you agree to the policies of the Alliance and to abide by the decisions? If so, you are accepted. And I encourage you to apply for an embassy in the link above.

By the way, a meeting will be held with the members of the alliance later concerning it....And stuff.

Anyhow, just say you agree and you in.

Yes, I agree with your policies, (for now....[my imperial lawyers say I must add this]), and will be glad to apply for an embassy.

forgot to ask......do i have to post my info again in the embassy thread?

if you like. You could just cut and paste it from here.

good plan

Xap

ag

jf

What about making a foreign exchange program for students within this alliance?

Just a thought...

I think that would be a good Idea. We should suggest it at the meeting(which will occur in the near future) and hammer out the details. Sound good?

yeah...i could go for that

yes. But let us just try to get a few more members, say like, we do that for a little bit.

Not for too long though, we have to move on with our lives.

"The Iluvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light has no intention of joining an alliance dominated by a smaller state.

"However, we would be willing to be officially affiliated with the alliance. This would grant the alliance Associated Power status, with all rights and priveliges thereof. Essentially, this would represent a mutual protection pact, with trade benefits such as marginally smaller tariffs, greater favour regarding Commonality Economic Court rulings (required before active, direct trading can commence between the Commonality and any other state), and generally speaking, a higher likelihood of Imperial Trade Conglomerate investment in economic assets operating within the alliance.

"What says the alliance to this?"

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad, head of state for the Iluvauromeni Province/Dawn State of Ax-turath, selected spokesperson for the Iluvauromeni Executive Council on this matter

"The Iluvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light has no intention of joining an alliance dominated by a smaller state.

"However, we would be willing to be officially affiliated with the alliance. This would grant the alliance Associated Power status, with all rights and priveliges thereof. Essentially, this would represent a mutual protection pact, with trade benefits such as marginally smaller tariffs, greater favour regarding Commonality Economic Court rulings (required before active, direct trading can commence between the Commonality and any other state), and generally speaking, a higher likelihood of Imperial Trade Conglomerate investment in economic assets operating within the alliance.

"What says the alliance to this?"

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad, head of state for the Iluvauromeni Province/Dawn State of Ax-turath, selected spokesperson for the Iluvauromeni Executive Council on this matter


I would be in favor of it, but we will discuss it at the alliance.

I think that would be a good Idea. We should suggest it at the meeting(which will occur in the near future) and hammer out the details. Sound good?

Yeah, it does.

As for Ma-tek, I don't like his superior attitude, but I will be willing to talk more about his offer within the alliance.

The Empire of Risban wishes to join this alliance.
Nation Info:
UN Type: Iron Fist Consumerists (Sometimes "Father Knows Best State")
Civil Rights: Rare (Sometimes Few)
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Population as of right now: 23 Million
Animal: Scorpion
Currency: Plutus (a penny off of the US Dollar)
Ruler: Emperor R.A. Scorpius, a benevolent dictator who took control of the nation through a coup against former Emperor Julius Graffia.
Diplomatic Status: Currently part of many organizations and Risban also has friendly relations with many other nations.
Military: Currently small, but rapidly growing. Risban has 3000 footsoldiers serving in the Committee of Vigilance. Emperor Scorpius is the supreme commander of the military, but is advisd by Grand General Charles Lucas and Grand Admiral Eric Tarda. Right now, the Risban military is aiding a group of rebels in the Casana Revolutionary War.

There we are! I doubt we'll need to post too much more information than that, for Risban already has some diplomatic ties with Alexias.

-Alexander Perkins, High Minister of Foreign Affairs

Following an invitation by the Empire of Alexias, Axario would like to submit a formal application to join the UDF. Detailed information regarding our country can be found at the following government info site: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Axario

impressive site axario....

>snip<

As for Ma-tek, I don't like his superior attitude, but I will be willing to talk more about his offer within the alliance.

"If we had a superior attitude in truth, I would now say something to the tune of,

'The barbarian always marks the truly superior as egotistical,'

"but this, although possibly an accurate assessment when in the correct context, would not be accurate at all.

"I'm afraid you mistake cultural difference for claims to some sort of grand superiority. That is not so. What is however eminently clear is that the Commonality is both economically and militarily 'greater' than Alexius.

"That is not a claim, or aggrandization. It is hard, cold, fact. Now, were Alexius 'greater' than the Commonality, we might be willing to join an alliance which is so boldly lead by them. As that is not so, we have no intention of doing so.

"But were the alliance truly equal, we would have no difficulty joining. But does the elder bow to the wishes of the village newcomer? No. This is the difficulty.

"The Commonality is, as the name suggests, a form of democracy. The government is therefore dictated to by the People, unlike a dictatorship, whereby the government dictates to the People. The very capitalization of the word 'People' no doubt stands out boldly here.

"The People, or any large mass of persons, whether they be the population of a nation or a small town, can only, like any entity, make decisions by perception. Perception varies from person to person, culture to culture. In our culture, the oldest are revered; the wisest are revered; the strongest are revered if they are just and honourable in their deeds; and the honourable are, of course, revered.

"The Commonality itself, built on those principles, is undoubtedly strong. Whether our actions are wise or not is irrelevant, and there are none to truly pass judgement now; that is a matter for the historians of the future, who I suspect will know, in truth, even less than I. Yet to the People, the Commonality is undoubtedly strong. They see and observe the strength day by day; they feel the vigour of the strong beat of its heart when they gaze upon the capital; they are here. And they have seen the Commonality take actions which again and again have shown that very few indeed dare directly oppose that strength; many disagree - but almost none are willing to directly oppose it. Samtonia recently strived to raise an alliance against us, and Eru only knows why, but they failed because we were seen by those who took note of their call as both benevolent and mighty.

"The People of the Commonality indeed took note. Thus, when the government considers joining an alliance, the People expect that alliance to either have better leadership and greater all-round strength than the Commonality - for what other reason for joining an alliance is there? - or to have power distributed fairly, as in our fair nation.

"So you see: we are not saying that any in the alliance are weak. Nor are we truly saying that we are strong.

"What we are saying, however, is that the system named with those in power in power is not acceptable as it would provide no benefit to our People, and thus we will not join - but are willing to stand at the side of those who will."

~ Ambassador Nejure

[OOC: Also, for further information regarding ICEL (ignore the nation being called 'Ma-tek' - that's just the name of one province), please see these pages (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Iluvauromeni_Commonality_of_Everlasting_Light) on Goobergunch's very nifty NSWiki.]

impressive site axario....
really? thanks :D

OOC: Ma-tek it was nothing personal, why make half a page saying absolutely nothing at all. You did not want to join, fine, I do not care. You want to have a mutual protection pact, fine.

What I meant by "superior attitude" which you obviously missed was this: Smaller countries are able to be both great leaders of alliances or diplomats or even RPGs. We all started somewhere, I have been here for more then 2 years having a few different nations.
To quote you "The Iluvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light has no intention of joining an alliance dominated by a smaller state."
This to me gave an indication that you do not believe that smaller countries are able to lead an alliance fairly. I may be wrong, but that is how I read it. Therefore my response to your post.

Superior attitude is many things let's just remember that. A way of saying things or making indirect indications. But that may also differ from country to country.

So do what you want, it is your choise. I make my choise and we can get on with our lifes.

The Empire of Xeraph is interested in aligning itself with this new Alliance.

The Empire of Xeraph is comprised of 9 nations in 3 regions. It has an overall pop of just over 3.5 billion, with a proportional military. We are tolerant of all peoples, with the exception of terrorists.
We are allied/aligned with 11 other alliances, as well as 134 individual nations.
We have an established presence in space: the Typhon Expanse, Andromeda Galaxy, which is bordered by our longtime ally, the Federated Suns in the Enos Expanse.

We thank you in advance for this great opportunity.

Alaric........Emperor of Xeraph
Councilor Prime of GAPTS
7th Lord of AXE
Master of the Knights Templar
Co-Regent of The Empire of One

The Empire of Risban wishes to join this alliance.
Nation Info:
UN Type: Iron Fist Consumerists (Sometimes "Father Knows Best State")
Civil Rights: Rare (Sometimes Few)
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Population as of right now: 23 Million
Animal: Scorpion
Currency: Plutus (a penny off of the US Dollar)
Ruler: Emperor R.A. Scorpius, a benevolent dictator who took control of the nation through a coup against former Emperor Julius Graffia.
Diplomatic Status: Currently part of many organizations and Risban also has friendly relations with many other nations.
Military: Currently small, but rapidly growing. Risban has 3000 footsoldiers serving in the Committee of Vigilance. Emperor Scorpius is the supreme commander of the military, but is advisd by Grand General Charles Lucas and Grand Admiral Eric Tarda. Right now, the Risban military is aiding a group of rebels in the Casana Revolutionary War.

There we are! I doubt we'll need to post too much more information than that, for Risban already has some diplomatic ties with Alexias.

-Alexander Perkins, High Minister of Foreign Affairs


Accepted wholeheartedly.

really? thanks :D

Accepted.

The Empire of Xeraph is interested in aligning itself with this new Alliance.

The Empire of Xeraph is comprised of 9 nations in 3 regions. It has an overall pop of just over 3.5 billion, with a proportional military. We are tolerant of all peoples, with the exception of terrorists.
We are allied/aligned with 11 other alliances, as well as 134 individual nations.
We have an established presence in space: the Typhon Expanse, Andromeda Galaxy, which is bordered by our longtime ally, the Federated Suns in the Enos Expanse.

We thank you in advance for this great opportunity.

Alaric........Emperor of Xeraph
Councilor Prime of GAPTS
7th Lord of AXE
Master of the Knights Templar
Co-Regent of The Empire of One

Accepted

I wish to join.
The people of Kaldraye live simple lives. Many are farmers and merchants, but we hae a polished fighting force of the finest swordsmen in history. Schooling is mandatory, and the sword skills are and optional course. The democratic government is firm, yet giving. Poverty is lacking, and all are wealthy. All religions are welcome. We wish to join for a few reasons. We believe that Kaldraye could give a voice of reason in times of uncertainy. Also, we believe in the greater good, and that Kaldraye could help the world. This is why we wish to join. Thank you.
- The Senate of the Kaldraye Government

Ma-Tek, I must laugh at your arguments. You accuse me of not including the members of my alliance in decisions? Well, firstly, as President of the Alliance, it is only fair that I maintain some power in the procedings, and as you can see all these people agree with me, as they are in my alliance, and have. Secondly, we have made virtually no decision in which anyone can be included, and thirdly, if you had read properly, you would have seen that we are to hold a meeting to laydown the important shit, in which, as the policy of the alliance, all the members will be included. I laugh, in all due respect. Your proposal for partnership will be decided on at the meeting, although I myself see the benefit of maintaning friendly relations with your people and there allies, and hopefully me bretheren will feel the same.

KSC, I appreciate your support and defence, but we must be carefull. Do not speak for the entire alliance if it is your personal feelings. Speak on behalf of your nation, but not the alliance, please. I understand were both of you are comming from, but it is hardly something to get angry over, my friends!

hey how many more people are we waitin for alexias?.....we got a fair amount....6.5....with a seventh applicant...im just curious as to how long we gonna wait

We are ready to go now, I just got too get all my stuff in order. Sorry for the delay, but please be patient. At latest, tommorow.*says in an annoying Wal-Mart employee voice* Thanks for your understanding!

The Federation will join, Info

The Federation Of Alethria is the reminits of the Empire of Lessr Tsurani Before the Stephian-Lithian Civil war. These where citizens who fled to Venus, to keep Tsurani Scocity alive. The Scocity fell after 5 years, and they created a new nation. They lost the Skill of Hyperspace, and now it can take up to 6 months to get a shipload from Venus to the Earth colonies. The Earth Colony is in the Atlantic. They can moved to and from Venus, but the Trip can take 6 months to 2 years, thus most people never bother, and the nation on earth has aproxamatly half the population.

OOC FYI, I am future modern. We have space travle, and a few more cures, but that about it. Think 2030 type tech, nothing more.

I do not play future tech. I will have to bring it up with the others.

Thank you for your interest, though. We will get back to you.

Alexias, if I seemed to speak on behalf of the alliance then I am sorry that was not my intention. I was merely responding to Ma-tek's post on behalf of my nations stand on alliances and Nation's sizes. And explaining why I used the term "superior attitude"

By the way I am not angry, it just shows how bad I am at making a safe argumentation for my views.

Again I am sorry if it seemed that I spoke on behalf of the alliance.

I do not play future tech. I will have to bring it up with the others.

Thank you for your interest, though. We will get back to you.

As long as Future is used with future, and modern with modern, no mixing of the two outside of your own nation. If a slight moderation of that is desired, such as "beaming" ambassadors, etc, from here to there, I'm OK with that.

Alaric

OOC: Ma-tek it was nothing personal, why make half a page saying absolutely nothing at all. You did not want to join, fine, I do not care. You want to have a mutual protection pact, fine.

What I meant by "superior attitude" which you obviously missed was this: Smaller countries are able to be both great leaders of alliances or diplomats or even RPGs. We all started somewhere, I have been here for more then 2 years having a few different nations.
To quote you "The Iluvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light has no intention of joining an alliance dominated by a smaller state."
This to me gave an indication that you do not believe that smaller countries are able to lead an alliance fairly. I may be wrong, but that is how I read it. Therefore my response to your post.

Superior attitude is many things let's just remember that. A way of saying things or making indirect indications. But that may also differ from country to country.

So do what you want, it is your choise. I make my choise and we can get on with our lifes.


Well said...........

Ah, no problem KSC, it was a good point, I just in real life, other people get me into shit all the time, so I've devoloped a small stint of paranoia.


Yes, I suppose it FT and Modern were mixed to very small extent, and moderated highly.

I guess it could work.

The meeting is to begin now, In Alex City.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377179
Applications are still being accepted though.

maybe we should telegram members to ensure that they read the new threads and such....

OOC: Ma-tek it was nothing personal, why make half a page saying absolutely nothing at all. You did not want to join, fine, I do not care. You want to have a mutual protection pact, fine.

What I meant by "superior attitude" which you obviously missed was this: Smaller countries are able to be both great leaders of alliances or diplomats or even RPGs. We all started somewhere, I have been here for more then 2 years having a few different nations.
To quote you "The Iluvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light has no intention of joining an alliance dominated by a smaller state."
This to me gave an indication that you do not believe that smaller countries are able to lead an alliance fairly. I may be wrong, but that is how I read it. Therefore my response to your post.

Superior attitude is many things let's just remember that. A way of saying things or making indirect indications. But that may also differ from country to country.

So do what you want, it is your choise. I make my choise and we can get on with our lifes.

[OOC: Not sure why you're responding out of character to an in character diplomatic statement... But thanks for the compliment!

Indeed it was half a page of nothing, but half a page of nothing filled with 'somethings'. That is commonly called 'diplomacy'. On the one hand, the ICEL representative was clearly stating that ICEL is and was not stating itself to be superior (although to be fair, it does 'outmass' the leading nation of this particular alliance), but was also clearly stating the reasoning behind the move, to ensure no misunderstanding. Meanwhile, ICEL was being careful not to commit to anything in particular; so although both those above statements were open, they were not 'set in stone'. The idea being: those who respect strength particuarly look and think, "Hm, they're strong." Those who respect humility look and think, "Hm, they're humble."

As was stated ICly, the point is not that a smaller country cannot lead an alliance fairly. The point is that a smaller country cannot lead an alliance well. If we look at things realistically, a smaller state is more easily swayed by larger ones - the smaller state would be likely to quickly become dependant on the larger states in the alliance, leading it to only react to the wants and desires of those states it depends on most, to the exclusion of those other 'peers'; the peers being the states on 'equal footing'.

Also, an alliance lead by a small state is not going to be so well respected as one lead either by a powerful state - or by all equally. Regardless of how Alexias leads with the Presidency, it can only be considered attempting to improve its own sphere of influence. This is because the alliance is specifically originally arranged with Alexias at its head.

Alexias is making a 'powerplay' by moving to form the alliance - or that is how any of the larger states would be likely to see it. That, in turn, is always likely to be met with disdain; powerful states always see themselves as powerful, and because of this, they often fail to see any value in smaller states attempting to consolidate their own powerbase. This is because they'd much rather see those smaller states rely on the stabilizing influence of the powerful ones, who often seek to draw large numbers of small states 'to their side'.

ICEL, therefore, is acting to consolidate its currently weakened position on the world stage. By aligning with a small core of nations, and giving their alliance Associated Power status, ICEL seeks to widen its sphere of influence by exploiting this alliance - albeit with benefits for the alliance as well, such as eventually thorough access to the ICEL economic market. Further, the alliance can, if ICEL succeeds (which is by no means certain) become associated wth ICEL in the minds of national leaders here there and everywhere. That has obvious benefits - in fact to both sides. Thus ICEL seeks a symbiotic relationship, albeit one with ICEL still in a stronger position - and one that benefits all of its allies.

On the other hand, the alliance gains greatly as well. The alliance could work the relationship to gain access to ICELs allies; these aren't numerous right now (some have ceased to exist due to inactivity, which is why I'm working right now on rebuilding the ICEL 'powerbase), but are liable to increase in the near future in number. Possibly! But the alliance gains economically; the ICEL economy is pretty massive, after all, and has links with other large, powerful economies. Thus ICEL can be a 'stepping stone' - just as the alliance can be. But neither side is going to come out and say that, now, are they?

The reason for the length of the communique is a simple one: time is important. By sending a long missive, this indicates that the issue is an important one. A fifteen word answer would hardly convey sincerity or suggest that this was an important matter, would it?

A last little bitty point: this was out of character. Therefore, it was not said in character. When talking IC, I'm not me. Therefore nothing is personal. When talking OOC, I am me. Hi! I'm me right now, but when I'm ICEL, I'm roleplaying... so not me. Because it's a role. ;)]

soooo..........from what I gather your saying that I am only looking out for me and that everyone should join you instead?

Thats what I got out of it.

I think you should respect the choices of these guys, and not start slandering me to get what you want, out of character no less.

Don't you think it is a bit unfair to further your In character goal things out of character? One could even say that that's, well, cheating, my friend.

I was in favor of maintaining good relations with you and your crew before, but seeing as a couple simple small little points sent you into a tyrade of accusations and that you tried to destroy the alliance with your self serving propaganda, I'm not sure that everyone will want to do that as much as they did.

Just a thought.

maybe we should telegram members to ensure that they read the new threads and such....

good point.

soooo..........from what I gather your saying that I am only looking out for me and that everyone should join you instead?

Thats what I got out of it.

I think you should respect the choices of these guys, and not start slandering me to get what you want, out of character no less.

Don't you think it is a bit unfair to further your In character goal things out of character? One could even say that that's, well, cheating, my friend.

I was in favor of maintaining good relations with you and your crew before, but seeing as a couple simple small little points sent you into a tyrade of accusations and that you tried to destroy the alliance with your self serving propaganda, I'm not sure that everyone will want to do that as much as they did.

Just a thought.

[OOC: o.O

Did you actually read what I said? No, I'm not using 'OOC propaganda' to further my own cause. What I'm doing is answering your post. Really, read my post properly, rather than skimming. I was talking about perceptions (which, to be fair, I did say!), not interpreting your actions.

And offering affiliation to an alliance is hardly an effort to destroy it. Nor did I make any accusations whatsoever...And for that matter, explaining to you people why my nation is doing what it is doing - essentially for its own gain! - is hardly self-serving. Cheating usually involves some sort of personal gain, no? Although the mere fact that you think that OOC statements could affect the way you RP with relation to my IC nation is somewhat worrying; why would it? As I said: OOC is OOC, IC is IC. The two are seperate, different. Totally different.

Now you've read this post, please go back and read again and make sure you didn't read what I said completely wrong. Again. Thanks. 'Cos I really don't want to clutter this thread with OOC chatter...]

you lie.

I did indeed read your post, and you accuse me of simply doing this too spread my power and influence.

You are most blatantly accusing me of exploitation in the process, and in addiction too that questioning my competence.

The personel benefit would be people reconsidering there membership for a "better" alliance such as yours, thus making you more influencial.

And, seeing as the above is true, you are indeed "propagating" your ideas and preferences, beliefs and loyalties(for IC that is) and such.

So, it is in fact "Propaganda" by definition. Propaganda does not neccesarily mean lies.

That is what it means.

Anyhow, let's not get into a big argument over it, that would be silly.

In fact, why do we not just stop filling this thread with OCC, no?



Anyhow, we should continue with IC, righ?



On a lighter note, I found my toothbrush.

congrats on the toothbrush.....and also...could you post a full llist of members as of now plz......just trying to determine how many votes we need for a majority...thx

congrats on the toothbrush.....and also...could you post a full llist of members as of now plz......just trying to determine how many votes we need for a majority...thx


k

I wish to join.
The people of Kaldraye live simple lives. Many are farmers and merchants, but we hae a polished fighting force of the finest swordsmen in history. Schooling is mandatory, and the sword skills are and optional course. The democratic government is firm, yet giving. Poverty is lacking, and all are wealthy. All religions are welcome. We wish to join for a few reasons. We believe that Kaldraye could give a voice of reason in times of uncertainy. Also, we believe in the greater good, and that Kaldraye could help the world. This is why we wish to join. Thank you.
- The Senate of the Kaldraye Government


Accepted.

The Federation will join, Info

The Federation Of Alethria is the reminits of the Empire of Lessr Tsurani Before the Stephian-Lithian Civil war. These where citizens who fled to Venus, to keep Tsurani Scocity alive. The Scocity fell after 5 years, and they created a new nation. They lost the Skill of Hyperspace, and now it can take up to 6 months to get a shipload from Venus to the Earth colonies. The Earth Colony is in the Atlantic. They can moved to and from Venus, but the Trip can take 6 months to 2 years, thus most people never bother, and the nation on earth has aproxamatly half the population.

OOC FYI, I am future modern. We have space travle, and a few more cures, but that about it. Think 2030 type tech, nothing more.


still pending, please be patient, I won't be much longer.

Membership:

The Alexian Empire(President, 2 votes)
The New KSC(1 vote)
Saxandra(1 vote)
Axirio(1 vote)
Risban(1 vote)
Xeraph(1 vote)
Kaldraye(1 vote)

Needed for majority: 5 votes

Pending memberships: Alethria

thanks....this helps...

no problem.

I was sick all day anyhow, so I had time.

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Here is nations info (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/pin=38395064/rref=Region%3DHASH(0x899e83c)/target=display_nation/_IP=68.38.250.222)

We are a powerful nation of almost 1 billion population. We are an empire ruled by Bhalk. We are on the far capitalist sides, actually one of the nations who helped spark the capitalist-communist trouble that has been arising. Our military gets the most funding, we've been trying to increase funding to our economy; but as of yet it hasn't worked.

We agree, for now, with this allianc'es ideals and will apply for an embassy if accepted.

I wish to join this great alliance.

Nation: United Socialist States of United Green Socialist Soviets
National Government: Transitioning into Socialism
Leader: Director Bristow

We at the Dracun Imperium wish to join this great alliance. We believe you know enough of us due to the current...promblem within our nation
Lord Desciver

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Gimme a minute.

Listen to this song while you wait.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394159

All accepted.

Excellent.

Nation name: The Superior Majestic Empire of Hobbeebia

we wish to join you. please list exactly what you what to know.

Nation name: The Superior Majestic Empire of Hobbeebia

we wish to join you. please list exactly what you what to know.


About goverment, culture, a bit of history, sieze, geography, you know, all that stuff.

Doesn't have to be TOO long, but at least give me an idea.

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love to join the alliance. I know someone else that might want to. Ill contact him :sniper: Im the founder of the Armed Republic of Poplotus. Ill join the alliance, only if you join my region, and elect me regional delegate. My region is Real Scotland. Thanks

I think it's safe to say then you won't be getting in.

The Confederacy of Lachenburg is interested in joining your grand alliance

Information Pretaining to our nation:

Official Government Type: Federal Republic or (similar to the Swiss Government)
Head of State: Grand Canton Conrad Von Eisengruf
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: All-Consuming
Political Freedoms: Rare
Languages: German, Old English
Gross Domestic Product: $7,983,747,359,325.46
GDP Per Capita:$32,972.12
Unemployment Rate: 4.06%
Total Military Forces: 680,000 active duty soliders with 400,000 ready reserves
Current Alliances: Greater Prussian Empire, World Security Alliance
Culture: Southern German and Swiss style culture with a more conservative backdrop.
Religon: 96% Protestant, 3% Catholic, 1% Mormon
Ethincity: 90% Anglo-Saxon, 6% Asian, 2% Hispanic, 2% Arabic


I hope you will accept my request so that the Confederacy may help strengthen your great alliance.

Accepted.

The United States of Lokiaa wishes to join the UDF. We are a very small nation, and cannot offer much, as you know from the intelligence we have already given you, but we are willing to help in any manner possible.

The United States of Lokiaa wishes to join the UDF. We are a very small nation, and cannot offer much, as you know from the intelligence we have already given you, but we are willing to help in any manner possible.


Accepted.

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Just a note to let you all know I am still around.

The Armed Republic of Krioval would like to enter into the Unified Defence Frontier, as we believe that unity between nations is essential for progress. As we are a modest nation in size and military power, we further worry for the security of democracy and free expression in our lands. We formally submit our files (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=395359) for review. In the interests of full disclosure, Krioval has reached a higher level of technology than may be normally accepted by this alliance; we are willing to constrain the use of that technology to our borders, with other nations of similar technological advancement, and to events in which it does not directly affect the outcome. Further, we technically have a theocracy, of which I am the symbolic leader, but membership is voluntary, and all religious sites are offered free maintenance by the government. I eagerly await your response on this matter.

Lord Raijin Dekker
Commander of Krioval

(Sorry man, it's not that the alliance doesn't except advanced technoldgy, it's that in our games, it doesn't exist.

Again, sorry.

Nice writting though. Very well done.)

Just a note to let you all know I am still around.


Good to hear.

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I'm, interested.
The Colony of Deetag is a large, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 32 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The large government concentrates mainly on Law & Order, although Education and Defence are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 19%. A substantial private sector is led by the Uranium Mining industry, followed by Information Technology and Furniture Restoration.

The government's religious works are headed by a New Age guru, Deetag's children are widely acknowledged as the most foul-mouthed in the region, the tenet of free speech is held dear, and corporations donate huge sums of money to favored politicians. Crime is a problem. Deetag's national animal is the mole rat and its currency is the pebbles.

Deetag is ranked 6th in the region and 83,723rd in the world for Largest Welfare Programs (per capita).

You just copy and pasted that from your page.

In truth, that really doesn't give me too much information about the country you made up. You must provide that yourself from your own creativity, my man!

Glad your interested, though.


Just give me a bit more to work with.

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I'm still around, just very busy.

But I'm still here.

Okaly Dokaly

Sleep well, everyone, talk to you all soon.

I enjoy my sleep.

Ah, sleep

We request aid in removing several imperialistic occupiers from a great ally, Roach-Busters. Please pledge your support and aid us in this righteous campaign to liberate a freedom loving nation. Help us remove the imperialists. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=405303)