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Maxwell Industries unveils its latest attack helicopter

Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 05:47
In recent news today, the Commonwealth of Non Aligned States has announced that they are now equipping their armed forces with the newly developed AH-34 fire support gunship. This helicopter, developed by the state owned Maxwell Munitions Industries is yet another example of unorthodox weapons systems that its designers are known to build. When asked for the reason behind this unusual concept, lead engineer, Clayton Trellis, had the following to say, “When you design long range artillery, there are two options. You either use projectiles or you use missiles. The former usually has a slow carrier platform while the latter is easily detected and destroyed with the latest AMS systems now on the market. So we took our proprietary hypervelocity technology…and gave it wings.”

AH-34 Firestorm Gunship
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The SH-34 Gunship inspects a kill during the live fire tests.

Specifications
Nation: Commonwealth of Non-Aligned States
Manufacturer: Maxwell Munitions Industries Air Systems
Type: Long Range Anti-Armor/Anti-Ship and Battlefield Support Helicopter
Engine: x2 2200-shp Dynamic Systems T-900-DS-701 turboshafts
Rotor Diameter: 15.6m
Length: 18.96m
Height: 5.8m
Empty Weight: 4,977kg
Max Weight: 10,850kg
Max Speed: 160 knots
Range: 612 km
Crew: 2 – Pilot, Gunner
Cost: $19,500,000

Armament
Primary
Type: McKinsey Model 12 75mm gauss gun
Location: Belly Mount
Munitions type: 75mm fin stabilized solid tungsten dart with discarding sabot shell.
Effective Range: +60,000m
Ammunition: 120 rounds
Rate of fire: 10.2 seconds per round

Secondary
Type: x2 20mm Welby-Simms HePex-932 machinegun
Location: Wing Pylon Mounts
Munitions type: 20mm FMJ, DU
Effective Range: 2,100m
Ammunition: 1800 rounds
Rate of fire: 550 rounds per minute

Development
The SH-34 Gunboat grew from the need for a mobile long range artillery platform capable of providing precise fire while retaining a high level of mobility in all types of terrain. Originally, conventional artillery platforms and rocket batteries could provide the range while cruise missiles had the precision required. But the inherent problem with the former was that they were typically limited in terms of mobility and the latter could be intercepted by the newer line of laser based anti-missile systems. A new approach was needed. Project leader Clayton Trellis was the one who originally proposed the idea of combining the newly developed hypervelocity weapons systems with VTOL craft. The idea was approved by the military board shortly thereafter.


Rather than design a new airframe to carry the proposed weapon, engineers chose instead to utilize the proven AH-64 chassis and began the task of modifying it for their purposes. The process began by stripping the weapons systems from the craft, including the M230 30mm nose mounted Chain Gun to make room for the gauss gun that was installed on a rotating belly mount. However, even with the weapons stripped, the overall weight of the gun meant that it would be straining the engines when fully loaded. A problem that was later rectified when designers replaced the General Electric T700-GE-701 engine with Dynamic Systems T-900-DS-701 turboshafts that produced an improvement in output of 25% without a significant increase in weight. The front landing gear was shifted away from the fuselage and now lies in a pair of pods on either sides of the raised weapons pylon.

The McKinsey Model 12 gauss gun itself uses the augmented rail construction principal where the magnetic field between the rails can be augmented by supplementary current which does not flow through the sliding brushes but is carried by separate conductors flanking the rails. This particular construction method eliminates the Lorentz force expression by a factor of ½ and halves the rail bursting force, an important factor for lightweight railguns. With its muzzle energy of 3MJ, the power requirements of this weapon are met via the improved turboshaft engines and electron energy storage cells. As with all magnetic accelerator systems, a significant cool down period is required before the rails are ready for the next discharge.

During the trial runs however, it was found that while the Firestorm was more than capable of engaging and destroying targets at extreme ranges, the lack of close range weaponry meant that it was completely vulnerable to short range surprise attacks. This particular flaw was particularly glaring during trials where the test units came under simulated fire from infantry carried SAMs. Acknowledging this flaw, design teams installed a pair of Welby-Simms 20mm machineguns on either side of the now-defunct weapons pylons and installed the Airguard 3000 tracking software. The new additions allowed the gunner to rapidly sight, track and intercept hostile missiles with the machineguns as well as engage soft targets in their effective range in a full 360 degree coverage area.

Capabilities
With the McKinsey Model 12 gauss gun the Firestorm is a fearsome weapon. The gauss gun, which constitutes the bulk of the craft’s weight, can hurl 75mm fin stabilized solid tungsten rounds at excess speeds of 6km/s or Mach 17.66 at sea level up to ranges exceeding 60 kilometers, a range previously reachable by only large caliber artillery or missiles. The immense speed and energy propelling the round ensures that its penetrator head is guaranteed to punch through most armor compositions of up to 700mm and beyond, more than enough to core a tank at its thickest and seriously damage any warship.

Additionally, the speed of the shell and its utter lack of thermal signature (beyond that generated during the acceleration process), means that by the time it is detected, an interception would be far too late and counter artillery fire would be definitely ineffective as the VTOL would long since have departed the area. The terror effect of this weapons platform should not be underestimated.

The gauss gun is capable of firing two types of munitions. For ranges lower than 30 kilometers, the gun is aimed via target acquisition lasers and a solid tungsten shell is used. At ranges exceeding that, where the earth’s curvature prevents direct line of sight, sub-caliber munitions can be utilized for indirect fire where the shell is guided either via satellite targeting systems or laser guidance from nearby ground/air units with line of sight to the target. Soft obstructions such as trees, light vehicles and other similar objects are typically cored without a significant loss in shell velocity or flight path deviation.

Like most VTOLs, the primary defense of the Firestorm lies in its impressive speed for a vehicle of its bulk. This is in addition to its anti missile/personnel machineguns mounted on the weapons pylons. The gauss gun’s long range and killing power combined with the Firestorms respectable speed keep it relatively safe from aggressors as does its heavy armor.

Variants
Although there are no variants to date, Maxwell Industries is considering designing a completely new improved airframe to house the gauss gun. This however, remains mostly speculation.

Manufacturers Note: With the successful sales of the M102 Dominance MBT, Maxwell Industries has expanded its production capabilities with state of the art automated facilities and can now produce several thousand AH-34 units per year.
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 06:43
*Bumped for sales*
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 08:57
OOC: Nobody is interested?
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 12:55
*Bumped for sales*

OOC: Although it looks like the design is flopping in the market. :(
Shenyang
26-11-2004, 13:20
The sheer size of that gun is a bit out there for an AH, but I'll buy 200 of them for 4,000,000,000 usd (4 billion usd if you don't want to count) I realize that I am giving you more money than you are charging, but its an interesting design and I like the creativity of the main gun so you can keep the extra.
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 13:53
Thank you Shenyang for choosing Maxwell Munitions Industries for your armament needs. Production has been commenced as of this moment. Delivery of the units will take 1 fiscal month.

OOC: I realize the gun is rather large but its a neccessity if the speeds required can be reached. Which is why the engines had to be upgraded to increase the carrying weight. But without gunpowder to propel the rounds, the overall weight is lighter than that of a conventional 75mm gun with an equal number of rounds.
Shenyang
26-11-2004, 14:27
True, also an interesting idea for a power souce for a much smaller weapon for say, a recon helo could be run by harnessing the immense static that a helo generates.
Money Wired
Oil Derrick Roughnecks
26-11-2004, 16:04
:) I will take 27 of these gunships if you would be willing to bring one down and demonstrate it for My brigadier General. Upon his recomendation after the demo we shall negotiate a better price along with a weapons re-supply contract after they have spent their weapons in any conflicts encountered lets say for 60 months.
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 16:26
Maxwell Industries has several AH-34 showcase units and is willing to demonstrate them to your Brigadier General. We request that you furnish the time and place as to when you would like the demonstration to take place.

Regarding the specific details of the agreement, Maxwell Industries is willing to negotiate on the price on a case by case basis.
Azurbajan
26-11-2004, 16:39
The sheer size of that gun is a bit out there for an AH, but I'll buy 200 of them for 4,000,000,000 usd (4 billion usd if you don't want to count) I realize that I am giving you more money than you are charging, but its an interesting design and I like the creativity of the main gun so you can keep the extra.

We will do the same. By the way what comp program did you use?
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 16:50
We at Maxwell Munitions Industries thank The Commonwealth of Azurbajan for choosing us for their armament needs. We will begin production immediately. Due to the current order being filled, the expected time before the order can be completed from this date is 6 fiscal weeks. We hope you will enjoy your purchase.

In regards to your query, Maxwell Munitions Industries utilizes 3D studio Max for all its concept design needs.
Easy green
26-11-2004, 17:31
75mm you say..... well the largest gun currently used in a plane is the A10s 30mm cannon, now thats big tha'll kill any tank goin.
Your sayin a 75mm cannon yould fit on a heli..... maybe not mate think about it the recoil from that gun would sent that thing outa control, the A10s gun slows it down as it fire's and thats got jet engines pushin it along, now say youd put like maybe a 40 mm that would be more realistic and would offer a better ROF and a better ammo capacity
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 17:41
75mm you say..... well the largest gun currently used in a plane is the A10s 30mm cannon, now thats big tha'll kill any tank goin.
Your sayin a 75mm cannon yould fit on a heli..... maybe not mate think about it the recoil from that gun would sent that thing outa control, the A10s gun slows it down as it fire's and thats got jet engines pushin it along, now say youd put like maybe a 40 mm that would be more realistic and would offer a better ROF and a better ammo capacity

OOC: Actually, the largest air carried projectile weapon is the C-130 Spectre carried 105mm howitzer. So the biggest gun isn't really the Avenger 30mm.

And on a related note, the 75mm gun mounted on the AH-34 is a magnetically accelerated round i.e. railgun. This means that recoil in conventional terms is a non-issue. There is no backblast from chemical detonation to propel the round or push the gun back. Additionally, note the muzzle velocity of the round. It is impossible for conventional guns to get that kind of energy due to the overpressure effect on the barrel caused by gas expansion. Rail guns don't have that problem. Lastly, since its an electromagnetically propelled round, there is no need for gunpowder at all, further reducing the load on the gunship. Its a feasible design.
Lord Ganja
26-11-2004, 17:52
The Peaceloving Republic of Lord Ganja would like to place an order of 60 fully equipped gunships.
We could also do with trained pilots to train our own personel in the use of this new technology.

Please state asked price for this service plus the materiel.

Sincerely,
Defence Department of Lord Ganja.
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 18:09
Maxwell Munitions Industries is pleased that The Most Serene Republic of Lord Ganja has chosen us for their armament needs and has begun production of the ordered gunships. We will be sending several instructors in both the operation of the gunship and and its maintenance along with the first shipment. However, we feel that it is neccessary to state that these trainers will be required to return to NAS territory after 1 year of their arriival.

Thank you for choosing Maxwell Munitions Industries.
Lord Ganja
26-11-2004, 18:26
Maxwell Munitions Industries is pleased that The Most Serene Republic of Lord Ganja has chosen us for their armament needs and has begun production of the ordered gunships. We will be sending several instructors in both the operation of the gunship and and its maintenance along with the first shipment. However, we feel that it is neccessary to state that these trainers will be required to return to NAS territory after 1 year of their arriival.

Thank you for choosing Maxwell Munitions Industries.


We will of course make sure that the personel you supply for training our pilots will enjoy the full hospitality of our caring and loving country and we will also see to that they are given transportation to their home territory as soon as our own personel is fit to operate the ordered equipment.
Does Maxwell Muntition Industries have any non-standard requirements when it comes to payment?

Sincerele,
Defence Department of Lord Ganja.
Non Aligned States
26-11-2004, 19:32
Maxwell Munitions Industries would be willing to exchange the ordered units for items of equivalent value pending on the details of the trade.
Lord Ganja
27-11-2004, 20:40
The Most Serene Republic of Lord Ganja has large quantities of Uranium which we mine for in deforested areas, this can also be processed into weapons grade plutonium in our state-of-the-art LY6-reactors, at a higher cost, of course.
If this would be a trade that Maxwell Industries/NAS would be interested in, please specify ammount and also remember that in case plutonium is the material you would prefer, we also demand a treaty of both trade and peacekeeping between our nations since we would not trade plutonium with enemy states.
Our mines and foundrys also produce the highest quality steel in our region, exelent for composites and alloys which require pure and strong metals.

Otherwise, our export industry of medical equipment and natural materials has made Lord Ganja's import budget quite strong, our national bank could wire the ammount you specify the same day if the order should go through before 17:00 lokal time.

Sincerely,
Hubert Gogormy, Elected member of Defense Department in Lord Ganja.
Non Aligned States
01-12-2004, 09:47
We the Commonwealth of Non Aligned States would be willing to sign your treaty of trade and peacekeeping in order to facilitate the trade of these materials for the gunships. We require uranium for power generation and superconductors in this trade. Given the new projects underway, we require as much of both as you are willing to trade for.

Sincerely,
Luther Stembridge,
Elected Chairman of the Non Aligned States.
The Phoenix Milita
01-12-2004, 10:03
I'm afraid thats just an apache with a huge gun that when fired, will most likely cause the whole helicopter to thrash around violently, and probly crash
Non Aligned States
01-12-2004, 11:09
OOC: That is a problem only limited to conventional chemically propelled guns. Railguns don't really have much of a recoil issue. What they do have is friction and overpressure issues. But the energy doesn't effect the flight model. In other words, the gun, when fired, won't transfer any kinetic energy whatsoever to the helicopter, negating the argument that large calibre guns on them are suicidal.
Lord Ganja
01-12-2004, 15:16
Then our nuclear department will issue the order of 8.000 cubic meters(m3) of each the Enriched plutonium and uranium to be loaded onto the transport aircraft, see this as the first payment and yet another 4.000 m3 of each will be transported once the first aircrafts return from the first deliverance.
We hope that 24.000 m3 will be sufficent payment for the gunships.
However, a continiuing plan for spare parts, weaponry and firmware upgrades in exchange for more nuclear material can of course be agreed on if your great nation so wishes.

Meanwhile, our secretary of defence will work out the non-agressions act that both our nations will sign, completing the trade, for now.

Sincerely,
Hubert Gogormy, Elected member of Defense Department in Lord Ganja.
Non Aligned States
01-12-2004, 15:51
The Non Aligned States is pleased to accept the terms and conditions of the trade. The first delivery of gunships has been completed and will be sent via transport ship to your nation. A team of instructors and maintenance specialists will be accompanying this delivery.

We look forward to entering an era of peace and mutual friendship with your nation.

Sincerely,
Luther Stembridge,
Chairman of the Non Aligned States.
Lord Ganja
01-12-2004, 19:08
The Most Serene Republic of Lord Ganja wish to embrace the Non Aligned States in a true expresion of long lasting peace and friendship.
The first shipment of 16.000 m3 of uranium and plutonium will be airborne in approx. 13 hours and should arrive at your south-east border about four hours later, the commander of each cargo plane will contact your tower for landing instructions.
In case the ground crew who will be reciving the goods is not ready, the flights will have enough petrol to stay airborne for another 11 hours until you are ready.
As soon as the first eight planes return we can refuel and begin next shipment of 4.000 m3.
We hope this arrangement is acceptable as our fleet of cargoplanes is somewhat limited.

We hope that this beginning of our allience will benefit both our nations and that our friendship will stand the test of time.

Peace and blessings,
Hubert Gogormy, Elected member of Defense Department in Lord Ganja.



OOC: Dang, its hard to remember all the numbers at times:)
Vast Principles
01-12-2004, 19:29
OOC: i think that this helo is very interesting, however that gun i am not so happy about, 75mm on a helo? I would be interested in making a contract with you though, but with a revised armament. Instead of the main 75mm gun i would prefere that you changed that to missiles and/or rockets as is mainly used in todays modern warfare, but these may be changed o more future tech models(not to far foward in years tech wise, 15maybe? or less, up to you really, but prefarably less)

If you can do that for me i would be very interested in making a contract for several helos
Praetonia
01-12-2004, 19:35
OOC: How do you fit an engine powerful enough to power a 75mm rail gun in a helicopter? I dont think that's possible with current technology.
Non Aligned States
02-12-2004, 10:58
To the nation of Lord Ganja,

Our ground crews have been notified and are making preparations for the arrival of the cargo. We look forward to continuing a profitable relationship with you.

Sincerely,
Luther Stembridge,
Chairman of the Non Aligned States



To the nation of Vast Principles,

The AH-34 utilizes a heavily modified AH-64 chassis as its primary airframe. Due to the current setup in our assembly plants, we regret to say that mass-manufacturing the original model is not possible at the moment.

Regretfully,
Luther Stembridge,
Chairman of the Non Aligned States


To the nation of Praetonia,

Although we cannot disclose the full workings of the power unit for the AH-34, some information can be revealed. First and foremost, the entire power system for the AH-34 is composed solely of room temperature superconductors, resulting in minimal power consumption and excess energy. This energy is shunted into a series of storage cells prior to the firing of the railgun, ensuring that sufficient energy levels are achieved for its optimum charge.

Sincerely,
Clayton Trellis,
Chief Engineer of the Firestorm Project.

OOC: Due to some serious economic concerns, I might RP the downfall of this nation in some kind of internal conflict to rise anew as a different nation. Hopefully one with better economy.
Pallawish
02-12-2004, 11:10
the pallawish nation is willing to buy 10 of this marvelous invention for our latest holy crusade.

We will pay any price required. :)
Non Aligned States
02-12-2004, 14:41
To the Free Land of Pallawish,

The price for 10 AH-34 Firestorm Gunships will come to $195,000,000. Construction will commence on confirmation of payment.

Sincerely,
Dona Rasco,
Chief Marketing Executive