NationStates Jolt Archive


A Message to All Religious Nations

Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 02:20
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.
The Blooded Lands
24-11-2004, 02:23
You dare tell us not to practice our beliefs! We cannot and shall not, we are our religion any attempts to change what we do will be met with repercussions.

-Helena, Speaker for the Third Born
The Phoenix Milita
24-11-2004, 02:25
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.
Well said.
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 02:27
With all due respect,

Religion is idiocy! Religion has perpetuated violence and misoginy unnecessarily! As a result of religion, mindlessness is ubiquitous. Can you prove (beyond the shadow of a doubt), either mathematically or scientifically, that there is a god? If not, doesn't religion appear to be an excellent, malicious, method of gaining power and riches. The ignorant are maleable.
The Blooded Lands
24-11-2004, 02:30
I know not for those Christians or those other religions of the Earthborn, but we know our Goddess personally. We see her power every day in the breaths we take, on the land we live, and the magic we weave. So yes, we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt her existence.

-Helena, Speaker for the Third Born
Harmonia Mortus
24-11-2004, 02:32
Religion is fine, as long as its me they worship.
Charnel, Keeper of Harmonia Mortus. Demigod in his spare time.
Present Day Comatica
24-11-2004, 02:34
With all due respect,

Religion is idiocy! Religion has perpetuated violence and misoginy unnecessarily! As a result of religion, mindlessness is ubiquitous. Can you prove (beyond the shadow of a doubt), either mathematically or scientifically, that there is a god? If not, doesn't religion appear to be an excellent, malicious, method of gaining power and riches. The ignorant are maleable.

Can you prove that there isn't a God?

And besides, you should not force your own beliefs upon your citizens. The sudden 'snatch-away' of civil rights may cause your citizens to riot and have dreaded civil-rights movements.

But I probably shouldn't be talking about that.
Nabuki
24-11-2004, 02:34
The Nabukans take no offense to Rebepacitopia's new doctrine, though Nabukans are free to worship- in private.
Glumzamber
24-11-2004, 02:35
So, basically, in the name of tolerance, you've decided to be intolerant. In the name of open-mindedness, you've flat-out condemned all religions and all religious groups.

You've also conveniently forgotten all of the crimes done in the name of state-sponsored athiesm. People don't need God to kill in the name of; without a God, they'll kill in the name of their state or political or ethnic group. Instead of persecuting "sinners," "infidels," and "heretics," they persecute "traitors" and "the disloyal."

Religion does not make people stupid. People make religion stupid. Athiesm is included in this statement.
Malpirgi
24-11-2004, 02:37
Our citizenship has the right to any religion. But only those of the True Faith, who have encountered the Trial by Fire, can become leaders of our nation. It is much better to have those proved to be worthy by religio-scientific tests as leaders than those who run for office just because they have money. Our Holy Republic is truly in touch with the Gods, and carry out their Will daily. As the Writ says, "When the Gods are wrong/I do not wish to be right". Our Gods have helped us to become better, why should they not help us further by helping to rule us?
Religion is your own choice, but the Gods know how to get things done.

-The Grand Inquisitor Bahba o-H'Ryilee
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 02:39
Can you prove that there isn't a God?

And besides, you should not force your own beliefs upon your citizens. The sudden 'snatch-away' of civil rights may cause your citizens to riot and have dreaded civil-rights movements.

But I probably shouldn't be talking about that.

Please be so kind as to illustrate where I said that our citizens were forced to acquiesce.

In response to your question: I can't prove that god doesn't exist, I don't intend to. I am not the one arguing ardently in favor of something that is omnipotent, infinite, and omniscient (doesn't that sound realistic?).
I don't believe in using force to change someone's mind. We are simply pronouncing a more intelligent, enlightened, and effective alternative.

P.S. This post only applies to EARTH DWELLERS.
Conrado
24-11-2004, 02:39
The Silvan Empire of Conrado does not give rediculously special treatment to religions. The citizens are free to believe relatively whatever they want, (sacrifices of animals are not allowed, and cults that practice this seem to just vanish....), but the actual churches and temples still much abide by all local laws. They are given a tax reduction, and we give further tax reductions to churches that donate to recognized charities. Of course, secular non profit agencies receive the same treatment.
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 02:43
So, basically, in the name of tolerance, you've decided to be intolerant. In the name of open-mindedness, you've flat-out condemned all religions and all religious groups.

You've also conveniently forgotten all of the crimes done in the name of state-sponsored athiesm. People don't need God to kill in the name of; without a God, they'll kill in the name of their state or political or ethnic group. Instead of persecuting "sinners," "infidels," and "heretics," they persecute "traitors" and "the disloyal."

Religion does not make people stupid. People make religion stupid. Athiesm is included in this statement.


Excellent point. However, there is one enormous flaw...WE ARE PACIFISTS!!! Surprise! Isn't it ironic that those who preach religious pacifism, are the same that slaughter civilians? You have also inadvertantly stumbled upon a delicious paradox. If people are incapable of having "non-stupid" religion, why have religion at all? That is like playing russian roulette with a magazine loading gun!
Fascist Confederacy
24-11-2004, 02:45
Please note blasphemer, I see you as a heretic and a worthless fool. When I'am with Yawneh in the Heavens, I will peer down on you in Hell and spit on your forhead. -- Pastor Ray Redfairm

OOC: Aka - Formal ignore.
Transnapastain
24-11-2004, 02:45
Official government broadcast in response to the statements made by Rebepacitopia


“Do not be disillusioned by what the heretics have to say! Look at what the Church ahs done for you, we have ridden he nation of the illicit drugs that a rampant in the streets, saved you from the accursed Mind Blade. We bring peace to the land. These infidels who dare speak blasphemy against our Lord shall incur his wrath.

Leaders of Rebepacitopia, We shall pray for your salvation, as a nation, may you see the light, and renounce your heretical ways, before the Judgment Day comes, and you are cast into the pits of hell for your sins!”

Viki Hesin
Executer of the Church of God’s Will and leader of Transnapastain

OOC: Obviosuly, no offense of the OOC kind is intended

[/me covering my ass]
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 02:50
Official government broadcast in response to the statements made by Rebepacitopia


“Do not be disillusioned by what the heretics have to say! Look at what the Church ahs done for you, we have ridden he nation of the illicit drugs that a rampant in the streets, saved you from the accursed Mind Blade. We bring peace to the land. These infidels who dare speak blasphemy against our Lord shall incur his wrath.

Leaders of Rebepacitopia, We shall pray for your salvation, as a nation, may you see the light, and renounce your heretical ways, before the Judgment Day comes, and you are cast into the pits of hell for your sins!”

Viki Hesin
Executer of the Church of God’s Will and leader of Transnapastain

OOC: Obviosuly, no offense of the OOC kind is intended

[/me covering my ass]

First, the church has not eradicated the preponderance of drugs in any fashion. The church contributes to illegitimate children by deeming birth control "sinful." They persuade attendants to vote in a certain manner, while eschewing federal taxes. The church builds shrines comprised of precious metals, while allowing thousands to go hungry. Finally, I defy you to defend child molestation.
Glumzamber
24-11-2004, 03:00
You have also inadvertantly stumbled upon a delicious paradox. If people are incapable of having "non-stupid" religion, why have religion at all?

I never said people were incapable of having "non-stupid" religion. What I am saying is that any belief system can, and almost always will, be hijacked by idiots, because that's the human condition. Why have religion if it's gonna get hijacked? Well, so will politics. Why have those? Why have any organized belief system in anything?

I predict that a number of people in your pacifistic athiestic nation will, in the name of pacifistic athiesm, promote an agenda that will attempt to stop all of this religious persecution and violence by force. After all, if they're not willing to fight to put an end to these horrible beliefs, these horrible religious fanatics will continue to kill! They're wiping out a blight on the world!

YOU might think this is stupid, and the majority of people in your country might think this is stupid, but THEY won't think it's stupid, and they'll start so much crap that everyone will start thinking that's the overall athiest agenda.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Glumzamber is a religious nation; however, we in no way promote the percecution of heretics. Furthermore, we promote logical approaches to religion, not belief for belief's sake. There are sound logical reasons for a belief in God; if there is a God, it makes sense to try to figure out what His plan for the world is, why we're here, and what we're supposed to be doing. And from this, religion comes.
The Blooded Lands
24-11-2004, 03:02
Ah, I see you are primarily talking to those known as Christians. Though they are our fallen brothers we have seen the problems the wrought, and agree with you. But we are not them, nor shall we be, for we are the Goddess made-flesh and not some earthborn to be corrupted and destroyed.

-Helena, Speaker for the Third Born
OOC-PS: I am on earth (just incase that was directed to me)
Ninjadom Revival
24-11-2004, 03:03
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.
Denied.
-Ninjadom Revival
Anagonia
24-11-2004, 03:06
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.

Official Response from the Allied Republics of Anagonia

Unfortunatly, we cannot go along with someones idea of unity. You have the same idea that the United Nations has (even IRL one too). Intern, we do not support anything towards any United Nations charter, nor written document, nor suggestion, and we SHALL NOT turn our back on our Lord.
Turetel
24-11-2004, 03:20
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.

Religion has no place in government, but you have it all wrong, you can't give crap about freedom when you ask for the exact opposite, sorry you had to see it that way (by the way, my nation is Christian Atheist).
Fluffums
24-11-2004, 03:24
religion is great as almost all religions preach peace though this is often ignored by its priests and socalled adherants in the race to gain power and wealth and that is truly sad. :( :mad:
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 03:28
I never said people were incapable of having "non-stupid" religion. What I am saying is that any belief system can, and almost always will, be hijacked by idiots, because that's the human condition. Why have religion if it's gonna get hijacked? Well, so will politics. Why have those? Why have any organized belief system in anything?

I predict that a number of people in your pacifistic athiestic nation will, in the name of pacifistic athiesm, promote an agenda that will attempt to stop all of this religious persecution and violence by force. After all, if they're not willing to fight to put an end to these horrible beliefs, these horrible religious fanatics will continue to kill! They're wiping out a blight on the world!

YOU might think this is stupid, and the majority of people in your country might think this is stupid, but THEY won't think it's stupid, and they'll start so much crap that everyone will start thinking that's the overall athiest agenda.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Glumzamber is a religious nation; however, we in no way promote the percecution of heretics. Furthermore, we promote logical approaches to religion, not belief for belief's sake. There are sound logical reasons for a belief in God; if there is a God, it makes sense to try to figure out what His plan for the world is, why we're here, and what we're supposed to be doing. And from this, religion comes.


HAHAHAHA! We are going to promote pacifism by force?!? You might want to read your prose before submitting it. Nevertheless, the intention of your post is acknowledged. We feel, though you might consider it futile, that by removing religion-you have one less problem to worry about. You said it yourself, religion is predominantly corrupted by stupidity. You use the pronoun "He" when speaking of god, why "He?" This is proof of the sexism that results from religion. It is absurd to think of god as a woman?

Yes, all of that DOES sound familiar. The Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and (probably) even Buddhist faiths have been bamboozling people through religious propaganda for hundreds of years. If a government is properly structured, corruption will be minimal. Religion, on the other hand, harps on corruption. Tithes are evidence of that.
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 03:33
Religion has no place in government, but you have it all wrong, you can't give crap about freedom when you ask for the exact opposite, sorry you had to see it that way (by the way, my nation is Christian Atheist).

You people should read EVERYTHING before responding. Earlier in this post I clarified that WE DO NOT FORCE ATHEISM ON OUR PEOPLE :) , we simply encourage people to question religion. It is healthy to question things. If people never questioned their rulers, totalitarianism would be ubiquitous.

P.S. You can't be a Christian Atheist, :headbang: it is an oxymoron. That is like saying: "I am a Communist-Anarchist.
Transnapastain
24-11-2004, 03:37
First, the church has not eradicated the preponderance of drugs in any fashion. The church contributes to illegitimate children by deeming birth control "sinful." They persuade attendants to vote in a certain manner, while eschewing federal taxes. The church builds shrines comprised of precious metals, while allowing thousands to go hungry. Finally, I defy you to defend child molestation.

Um, your argument came from an OOC standpoint, in my nation the Church has done every thing I said.

-My nations past is riddled with drug epidemics, in which thousands died, when the religious government was formed, it acted to stop this, and succeeded
-There are no documented cases of Child Molestation with in the CGW, I call upon you to resend that remark
-I am not the Catholic Church of the modern 2004 world, not even in name, and only loosely based upon.
-The standard of living in Transnapastain is very high, save for those who dwell in the undercities…but that’s a whole separate debate.
-Birth Control is totally legal in my nation
-I wont dispute corruption within the ranks of the CGW, but, what organization can claim to be absolutely pure

I cant argue with your factual evidence when applied to an OOC church, but, I can very easily contest it in a IC form.

Remember, please, when you make an IC announcement about your nation, and nations respond ICly in kind….its hardly fair to come back at them with OOC responses.
Rebepacitopia
24-11-2004, 03:43
Um, your argument came from an OOC standpoint, in my nation the Church has done every thing I said.

-My nations past is riddled with drug epidemics, in which thousands died, when the religious government was formed, it acted to stop this, and succeeded
-There are no documented cases of Child Molestation with in the CGW, I call upon you to resend that remark
-I am not the Catholic Church of the modern 2004 world, not even in name, and only loosely based upon.
-The standard of living in Transnapastain is very high, save for those who dwell in the undercities…but that’s a whole separate debate.
-Birth Control is totally legal in my nation
-I wont dispute corruption within the ranks of the CGW, but, what organization can claim to be absolutely pure

I cant argue with your factual evidence when applied to an OOC church, but, I can very easily contest it in a IC form.

Remember, please, when you make an IC announcement about your nation, and nations respond ICly in kind….its hardly fair to come back at them with OOC responses.

My statement was consistent with the rest of the post. The intention of this post is to discuss banal religious agendas, not YOUR esoteric religious agendas.
Old Amsterdam
24-11-2004, 03:49
How about if all you religous nuts can scientifically prove your beliefs, then you can go on, and on, and on clogging these boards
o wait....YOU CANT
Transnapastain
24-11-2004, 03:58
My statement was consistent with the rest of the post. The intention of this post is to discuss banal religious agendas, not YOUR esoteric religious agendas.

If this argument can not include player-made religions, which are ICly applicable, and is restricted only to the religions of the modern day world, should it not, then be made in the "general" forum, and not the in-character "International Incidents" forum?

Aren’t you taking a simple response from a right-wing theocratic state just a little too far?
Iuthia
24-11-2004, 04:02
Meh, we allow our citizens to practice whatever religion they like, though we don't encourage or discourage any specific religion. All churches, temples and shrines are funded by the charity of their worshippers and religion is not taught in primary education.

Religion is a matter of choice in Iuthia, the people may believe what they want and practice it how they like providing they follow the laws of our country which basically limit their power in anycase. As of the last census seven years ago, over seventy percent of Iuthian are agnostic and follow no organised religion, something which is attributed to the Iuthian culture and sense of practicality.

As for the states stance on religion, we have no problem with organisated religion providing it doesn't attempt to destabilise the nation or otherwise attempts to challenge the legitimate leadership of the nation. It has no more say in Iuthian politics then a group of furries do.

Ultimately religion and state are two completely different entities in Iuthia and they generally don't get involved in the other, which is an unspoken agreement we both seem to be content with.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Neo-Mekanta
24-11-2004, 04:04
A large antenna, rusted and covered in seaweed, rises from the ocean as the Glorious Army Of People Following A Big Ugly Critter That Fell From The Sky And Pretty Much Just Intimidated Us Into Working For Him While He Does Nothing And Prattles On Incoherently About A "Goddess" He Serves And Pact That Keeps Him Actually Doing Any Of The Goddamn Work (Name Under Revision) Command Submarine sends out a video broadcast.

-Message

"Erm... Right. Sir, it's on."

"..."

"... Okay, just stand in front of the camera and-"

"GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHRGH!!!"

"Yes, yes. I know. Just-"

"GWAAAAAAAAAAHRGHAAAAAAAAGH!!!"

"Yes, just-"

"GWAAAAAA-"

"We'll fix your video games after you send the message!!"

"... Graaaaawwwwwwwww..."

A large (Link ->) creature (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/MachinaKyrios/Neo-Mekanta/ZirconSkin.jpg), quite fitting of the name of the Army this week, rises in front of the camera.

"Ghyoooooooou... spzaeeeeeeeeek hoffffgh hourh Ghodesszsk?"
(Trans: "You... speak of our Goddess?")

Footsteps are heard as everyone else in the room backs away from the creature.

"KHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL JYOOOOOOOOUUGHK!!!!!!"
(Trans: "(I'll) KILL YOU!!!)

With that, the creature slashes at the camera with his claws, breaking the visual part but keeping the audio working for a moment longer.

"... Damn it, not again..."

"... Hshuuuupah Margheeeoh..."

"Fine! I'll fix your goddamn-"


-OOC-

Yes, the Army is Modern Tech, despite having a future tech creature "leading" them. He's actually just there for comedic value and IC justification for thier senseless and suicidal actions. He actually does jack.
Iuthia
24-11-2004, 04:05
How about if all you religous nuts can scientifically prove your beliefs, then you can go on, and on, and on clogging these boards
o wait....YOU CANT

OOC: Either keep your arguement In Character, or take it to the General section of these forums.
Glumzamber
24-11-2004, 07:24
HAHAHAHA! We are going to promote pacifism by force?!? You might want to read your prose before submitting it.

Yes, I'm saying exactly that. This is what happens to organized belief systems - they get turned stupid.

We feel, though you might consider it futile, that by removing religion-you have one less problem to worry about.

Again, how is religion a problem? You seem to assume that all religion is inevitably wrong-headed, stupid, and close-minded. Ever think that maybe some of us sat down and puzzled out the existence of God instead of just blindly accepting some holy book?

You can't escape religion; not really. Religion is a philisophical belief based on the existence of God. If you don't believe in God, your philosophies are going to reflect this...and whatever philosophies those may turn out to be, someone's going to do something stupid with them.


You use the pronoun "He" when speaking of god, why "He?" This is proof of the sexism that results from religion. It is absurd to think of god as a woman?

Why not "He?" Your idea of "proof" seems to be somewhat sketchy here. God's referred to as "He," therefore religion is sexist? If we referred to God as "She," it wouldn't be just as sexist against men?

Yes, all of that DOES sound familiar. The Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and (probably) even Buddhist faiths have been bamboozling people through religious propaganda for hundreds of years.

As opposed to political organizations, which are honest and trustworthy?

If a government is properly structured, corruption will be minimal. Religion, on the other hand, harps on corruption. Tithes are evidence of that.

We can just as easily flip that statement: "If a religion is properly structured, corrpution will be minimal. Politics, however, harps on corruption. Taxes and political contributions are evidence of that." In fact, I think that's far more accurate.

I have two questions:

1. Do you get annoyed when religious people ask you if you've accepted Jesus or if you've heard the good word about Muhammed or the Buddha or whatnot?

2. Where do right and wrong come from?
Fascist Confederacy
24-11-2004, 07:29
OOC: Ever heard of Anarcho-Communism? Merging of some Anarchist ideals with some Communist idelas.
Draganovia
24-11-2004, 07:33
Greetings.

Rebepacitopia has approved the following message:

In recognition of recent global turmoil and discontent, Rebepacitopia is discouraging religious activity. We have reached the conclusion that religion suffocates individuality, freedom, and intellectual pursuit. In times of hostility, we (as an Earth) need freedom, not blind oppression. Religion not only does the aforementioned, it also disenfranchises Religious (even racial) minorities in society. We need egalitarianism, not futile hatred. Religious bodies have initiated crusades, genocidal tirades, paroxysms of paranoia, and capital pursuit...allegedly in the name of god. We hereby discourage all religion, and appeal to the logical (not faith-based) aspects of global citizens. Say NO to religion.

do i hear a marxist among us?? we have decided we will never trade with you beacuse of this, we dont want to be dealing with countrys that are like this!

Draganovian Secretary of Foreign Affairs and Secretary of Economy Moe Sizlak.
Pacitalia
24-11-2004, 07:40
OOC: Hey, if it gives my people something to do on Sundays, power to them.

IC: The Pacitalian government finds the comments of the leader of Rebepacitopia alarming and stunningly moronic.
Modguy
24-11-2004, 07:45
after a mere few words of the announcement, the government of Modguy steps in and stops all live feed going into its nation...the chaos that follows leads to the creation of several dissident groups within the nation.

The god of the empire lay on his hospital bed, dieing of old age, his mortal shell having reached its natural life of 76. "And like the rising sun, I shall be reborn!" he proclaim in a feeble voice, breaking away at the end as the last fleeting energy of life slipped from the body. But the nation mourned not, for their leader was god, and their god a leader, and true enough, the chosen person to be the next shell of Modguy was prepared; a man of 22 with dark brown hair and jade green eyes, his towering figure lay on the opposing bed of the lifeless body. "Look! The boy is awakening! It’s our god reborn, all hail Modguy, our supreme god and ruler!" proclaimed a news reporter from the NNN.
but unfortunately, none of the nation knew the god emperor, none of whom in living memory had ever seen a rebirth, and thus doubt was sewn within the people of Modguy, and dissenters hidden in the dark far away from government prying eyes have been made.

OOC: sorry if it seems I went way off topic, but when my imagination takes flight, I have to heed its call or for ever loose a great way to start a RP.
The Island of Rose
24-11-2004, 07:58
Official Statement from The Roman Rosian Catholic Church:

How dare you insult our Mother Church? You praech peace, but you ban it. The Catholic Church is not perfect, but that is because of man. I pray to the Lord that he forgives you, and that you see the Light that is God, Jesus Christ. I pray that you also see the error of your ways. But if you continue, Satan will take your soul. I pray for the souls that are suffering under you tyrannical rule. I hope that God, Yaweh, saves them. In Jesus's name, Amen.
Sergei Kreschnech
Archbishop of the Island
http://www.kath.de/rtl/Kasper.jpeg
Nemh
24-11-2004, 12:45
We of Nemh are a pagan society. We will resist any attempt of outsiders to change that.

-The Overlord and Thanes of Nemh
Iuthia
24-11-2004, 13:51
Official Statement from The Roman Rosian Catholic Church:

How dare you insult our Mother Church? You preach peace, but you ban it.
You people should read EVERYTHING before responding. Earlier in this post I clarified that WE DO NOT FORCE ATHEISM ON OUR PEOPLE , we simply encourage people to question religion. It is healthy to question things. If people never questioned their rulers, totalitarianism would be ubiquitous.

I suppose it would have made a better arguement, Archbishop Kreschnech, if the nation in question was actually banning religion... which they are not. If you are so insulted by a government which encourages it's people to question religion but doesn't actually attempt to force atheism on it's people then you should concider your intolerance issues indepth.

We have found that out of some of the most intolerant religions in this world, Christianity is perhaps the most intolerant with nation such as Decisive Action going as far as to become almost Fundamentalist in it's beliefs. Lets also not forget nations such as Belem which are willing to use nuclear weapons against those who would ban religion.

We would suggest not falling into the trap of becoming too intolerant, it doesn't look very good in todays open society where tolerance is becoming more important.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Jeruselem
24-11-2004, 14:40
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 20:27

God bless
Friend Computer
24-11-2004, 15:13
Friend Computer fervently believes religion to be the root of all evil and a bastion of the surpression of free thought.
That is why Friend Computer is a dedicatedly secular nation.
Friend Computer can't be doing with rivals.
The Merchant Guilds
24-11-2004, 15:22
OOC: Personally I am an agnostic humanist but you know.

IC:

We care not for your own religious ideals, but we suggust you leave our beliefs alone. Essentially, do what you want but do not interfere and condemn ours. The Lords of Night and Shadow and their earthly followers (us) will not look kindly upon it.

We hope you enjoy eternity in the Gardens of the Dead in the Overworld,

Regards,

The Guild of External Affairs,
Transnapastain
24-11-2004, 16:54
OOC: Ever heard of Anarcho-Communism? Merging of some Anarchist ideals with some Communist ideals.

Indeed, the end form, and true from of communist ideals call for the absolute abolishment of any from of stately government. In this system, everyone will take care of everyone else, there will be no need for a leader, nor could there be, for everyone is equal.

So, in the end, communism is nothing more than friendly and non-violent anarchy.

Therefore, Anarchist Communist is not an oxymoron

My I suggest Fascist-Anarchist
or Fascist-Communist, because, in ideals, they are absolutely opposed.

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