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DA Forms "The World Anti-Communist League"

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Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 04:35
Ooc- In response to the UN Resolution Rights of Minorities and Women and the general rise of the communist movement


"With the furtherance of the so-called Civil Rights movement and supposed and alleged global human rights, maintaining the fallacy of world cultural equality, debasing the Mississippian and other whites to the level of the cannibalistic African negro, we are reminded of something, communism... That pathetic system that attempts to make all artificially equal by beating the superiors into a position lower than nature has intended for them, thus making the great men equal of the lesser men by forcing the great men down to the same levels of the lesser men."


"To stop this plague of communism, we propose the creation of the World Anti-Communist League. Racist and non-racist nations may apply, the main this is that the nations be devoutly anti-communist and willing to oppose communism wherever and whenever it rears its ugly head."


"The main purpose of this alliance will be to coordinate efforts to replace communist governments with non-communist governments, to stop the spread of communism, and to assure the security of non-communist governments against communist threats."

"This is Joseph Mladic, of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network, signing off, reminding all freedom loving people, and all those who value quality above equality, to join the WACL."


Members:

1) Decisive Action (Founder)
2) Fascist Confederacy
3) The Parthians
4) Armandian Cheese
5) Comdidia
6) Pernica
7) Avadria
8) Right thinking whites
9) Kahta
10) Communication
11) Borman Empire
12) Kriegorgrad
13) Doomingsland
14) The Kievan People
15) Zarbia
16) Armandian Cheese
17) Pacitalia
18) Modguy
19) Pantheaa
20) Unguided Shrapnel
21) Moronyicka
22) Aztec Lands
23) Sevaris
24) P3X1299
25) Zackaroth
26) Safehaven2
27) Maransune
28) Lame Bums
29) Roach-Busters


Enemies List / Those we should target for coups / regimes that need to be toppled or overthrown:


Top priority) The Burnsian Desert (Craig Regime) (We NEED to see a successful restoration of the pro-freedom monarchy under King William Fabus and Queen Sylvia Katrina Fabus)

1) Hattia

2) Hogsweat

3) Angelico

4) Kanabia

5) Socialist Serbia

6) Praetonia

7) Sanctaphrax

8) Celtayoshi

9) Red Wales

10) Momanguise

11) The Voltarum
Sarctic
22-11-2004, 04:37
Sarctic harshly comdemns this archaic and barbaric league. Rightly so, it doesn't seem to occur to any Anti-Communist that maybe revolutions are spreading because of institutions like this.
Fascist Confederacy
22-11-2004, 04:45
As a Fascist, realist, anti-communist nation, we wish to join.
Euroslavia
22-11-2004, 04:54
As a Communist nation, we will be keeping an eye on this alliance...
Sharina
22-11-2004, 05:11
The Technocracy of Sharina must voice its opinion on this matter.

We consider that disabled people should be allowed to participate in government. People with deafness, blindness, and paralysis type of disabilities should be given a voice, as they deserve support. After all, these people did not ask for these disabilities, and they desire to act independent and normal with sufficient support such as interpreters, closed captioning, guide dogs, wheelchairs, and so forth.

In addition, Sharina provides free Emergency-Room services. We find the practice of charging people to save their lives simply unthinkable, unspeakable, and extremely barbaric. Saving people lives should be absouletely free, with no obligations whatsoever.

Sharina also provides free college education for anybody who has a B average or better in high school. Not everybody can afford to go to college, and many high school kids with B averages prove their intellect and potential, only to be denied these opporunities because of money.

These are the stances and ideology that Sharina holds dear. I will watch this alliance, as I do not know its intentions in regards of these three points I have outlined regarding disabilities, free ER service, and free college education.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 05:18
The Technocracy of Sharina must voice its opinion on this matter.

We consider that disabled people should be allowed to participate in government. People with deafness, blindness, and paralysis type of disabilities should be given a voice, as they deserve support. After all, these people did not ask for these disabilities, and they desire to act independent and normal with sufficient support such as interpreters, closed captioning, guide dogs, wheelchairs, and so forth.

In addition, Sharina provides free Emergency-Room services. We find the practice of charging people to save their lives simply unthinkable, unspeakable, and extremely barbaric. Saving people lives should be absouletely free, with no obligations whatsoever.

Sharina also provides free college education for anybody who has a B average or better in high school. Not everybody can afford to go to college, and many high school kids with B averages prove their intellect and potential, only to be denied these opporunities because of money.

These are the stances and ideology that Sharina holds dear. I will watch this alliance, as I do not know its intentions in regards of these three points I have outlined regarding disabilities, free ER service, and free college education.

President Rand Veristek


"We do not harm those with disabilities, we cure them and treat them so they can be healthy and normal, we cure all disabled for free whether or not they can afford treatment. If somebody has five hundred thousand dollars saved up and can afford treatment but it will break them to do so, we don't take their money. As for education, all our youths receive a free education up to grade 12, courtesy of the Mississippian National Front Party, the White Knights of Mississippi, and the Mississippian Federal Army. Furthermore, we offer higher education to those who have proven merit, loyalty, piety, and usefullness to the state and the party. We provide free health care services to those who cannot afford it in the case of emergencies that is."

Czar Roger Fabus
Baalbek
22-11-2004, 05:31
Count us in, we are determined to stop the spread of communism at all costs.

Hugo Augusto Galtieri
Hallenberg
22-11-2004, 05:31
Chancellor Hollen states that the Neutral Province of Hallenberg will remain neutral on this manner, and sends a letter of grey neutrality to DA.
Callisdrun
22-11-2004, 05:34
"We might just have to keep an eye on this new organizationg, depending on how they define 'communist,' and if that definition applies to our country."

-Prime Minister Anne Eriksen, answering a reporter's question.
Sharina
22-11-2004, 05:37
"We do not harm those with disabilities, we cure them and treat them so they can be healthy and normal, we cure all disabled for free whether or not they can afford treatment. If somebody has five hundred thousand dollars saved up and can afford treatment but it will break them to do so, we don't take their money. As for education, all our youths receive a free education up to grade 12, courtesy of the Mississippian National Front Party, the White Knights of Mississippi, and the Mississippian Federal Army. Furthermore, we offer higher education to those who have proven merit, loyalty, piety, and usefullness to the state and the party. We provide free health care services to those who cannot afford it in the case of emergencies that is."

Czar Roger Fabus

Greetings, Czar Roger Fabus.

I am heartened to hear of your policy and belief in helping disabled people, free ER coverage, and free public education and college education for these who deserve it.

Any civilization, no matter how ancient or new, how large or small, how wise or stupid, requires education and health to succeed. Without these, civilizations will crumble, as people would lose their ability to think, formulate solutions, and have longer lifespans to contribute more to the whole.

Military is secondary, as any army full of incomptent and literal idiots won't last long. Also, the military will not fare well if its soldiers are ill or suffer serious injuries.

Hence, my directive of education and health first, and military doctrine second.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek
A Few Rich People
22-11-2004, 05:37
Hmm... Yes, how do you define it, for we ourselves find some inconsistencies...

-Mikosolf Corporation
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 05:42
"Our definition of communism is as Marx said, "The abolition of private property" and thus we tend to stick to that as a major component of communism, the total nationalization of all industries is also a key component of communism. We also believe that any system which attempts to artifically create equality amongst different cultures or races, without them actually being equal, is communist. Furthermore, the oppression of people through a system of societal and media imposed political correctness unwritten laws, the dominance of the state by a single party which does not hold the best interests of the national people at it's heart. Perhaps the biggest indicator of communism is the globalism and the transcendance of national borders that it seeks out."

Czar Roger Fabus
A Few Rich People
22-11-2004, 05:47
OOC: Bah, now my fancy long title of government type is useless!

IC:

Though we fall under much of your definition for communism we do not deem ourselves as such, primarily because we are content to keeping our system within our nation. Therefore, we do nothing, and we hope to continue and/or begin trade with any and all (and if its on the black market so be it!).

-The Mikosolf Corporation
Armandian Cheese
22-11-2004, 05:58
Finally, an organization dedicated to eliminating those moronic fools who oppress the world. Count us in! Let's get some military action starting.
Comdidia
22-11-2004, 06:01
Comdidia would like to join this.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
22-11-2004, 06:02
We cannot, at this time, join this alliance for reasons to be left unsaid. However, we do support your anti marxist cause, and will continue to fight the war against global communism.

Good Day.
Pernica
22-11-2004, 06:25
The Capitialist Paradise, The Empire of Pernica requests membership to aid this noble league in their persuit to liberate the growing number of Communist nations.
Pacitalia
22-11-2004, 06:51
Pacitalia expresses interest in joining but is not yet fully committed. Can we have some more details? Like what you specifically intend to do about communist nations even if they don't pose a threat?
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 06:59
Pacitalia expresses interest in joining but is not yet fully committed. Can we have some more details? Like what you specifically intend to do about communist nations even if they don't pose a threat?


"Our primary concern is with expansionistic, aggressive communism."

Czar Roger Fabus
Avadria
22-11-2004, 07:51
The Empire of Avadria will gladly join and lend it's support towards this alliance. It is for the benefit of the world that we uproot the horrendous weed that is communism. The weed that threatens to spread and choke the bountiful world we have created.
Callisdrun
22-11-2004, 08:56
"Our definition of communism is as Marx said, "The abolition of private property" and thus we tend to stick to that as a major component of communism, the total nationalization of all industries is also a key component of communism. We also believe that any system which attempts to artifically create equality amongst different cultures or races, without them actually being equal, is communist. Furthermore, the oppression of people through a system of societal and media imposed political correctness unwritten laws, the dominance of the state by a single party which does not hold the best interests of the national people at it's heart. Perhaps the biggest indicator of communism is the globalism and the transcendance of national borders that it seeks out."

Czar Roger Fabus

Upon learning of the definition of communism being used, the Prime Minister had this to say:
"It appears then, that the formation of this organization poses no real threat to Callisdrun, as none of these criteria really apply to our nation. Except perhaps that one about race, which isn't easy for me or my staff to understand because the English word 'race' does not translate well into Callisdrunian, but in any case, we shouldn't have reason to worry. I doubt that constitutional monarchies are the target of this group."

Now, for the weather. There will probably be another blizzard on thursday and friday.
Sevaris
22-11-2004, 12:50
We view any chance to stop communism as a good thing. Sevaris would like to join.

-Yuna Mannerheim
Ministry of Foriegn Affairs
Soviet Haaregrad
22-11-2004, 13:27
The CISR will keep a close eye on this, for security's sake.
Risban
22-11-2004, 13:53
A telegram from the Empire of Risban arrives.
"Whilst the Empire of Risban is neiter racist nor sexist, we are anti-communist and will aid in the fall of global communism. Consider the Empire of Risban in.
-Alexander Perkins, Risban Minister of Foreign Affairs
-Emperor R.A. Scorpius"
Kanabia
22-11-2004, 14:32
Ah, this is all very nice. Come get some, comrades.
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 22:24
bump
Kahta
22-11-2004, 22:24
Kahta would like to join.
Serafima
22-11-2004, 22:29
Communication from Serafima
------------------------------

We too would like to join this act, for too long have Serafima and Sparklemist have been frowned upon for being weak, just because the majority of our population are women.

Serafima boast one of the best intelligence teams in the West Pacific, we shall not be frowned upon for much longer!
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 22:33
Added a list on page 1, post 1, please submit nations (communist nations) that you feel should be changed into non-communist nations, and that can realistically be changed into such without too much blood being spilled (it's okay to spill their blood)


Submit evidence or a valid argument as to how they are communist or against our interests, and be prepared to provide links on demand to back up your claims.
Cheeser12
22-11-2004, 22:49
"And your iron-fisted dictatorship is BETTER than communism?"
Premier Cheeser12
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 22:50
Secret IC to WACL Members.

"Attention, Attention, all WACL members, the first target for a regime change has been selected... Hattia will be the first communist nation to be liberated and to have the honor of having their communist regime replaced by a democractic and open one."

Czar Roger Fabus



Ooc- Hattia and I have been talking about this and how it'll make a great Afghanistan-Mujahaden style RP, and how the Fabus puppet government in Hattia can appeal for help from various WACL members, etc. It'll be a small RP, reserve your spot now. This is not first come first serve, this is "You apply, I think you're good, you're in."


Mississippian Bloc Forces
1) Decisive Action
2) Kriegorgrad
3)

Hattia and 1 outside helper to provide safe haven, funds, recruits, weapons, etc for Hattian guerilla forces.
1) Hattia
2) Callisdrun
Borman Empire
22-11-2004, 23:15
Official Imperial Communique:

To: Decisive Action
From: Chancellor Licinius

Finally, an end to teh plague. We ask that we be allowed entry to this most holy alliance.

End Transmission

(OOC: Can you update the list at the front?)
Doomingsland
22-11-2004, 23:18
Official Response

We would like to request admittance to this great alliance.
The Most Holy Covenant
22-11-2004, 23:23
IC: While Kriegorgrad vehemently disagrees with your views on racial issues, we are enticed by the possbility of an "Anti-Communist league," while we are friendly with many a Communist nation, we still feel that this would be beneficial to Kriegorgrad.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

EDIT: I'm interested in the RP. I doubt I'm worthy of RPing alongside High Lord DA but I'll give it a shot.
Borman Empire
22-11-2004, 23:28
bump
Decisive Action
22-11-2004, 23:29
IC: While Kriegorgrad vehemently disagrees with your views on racial issues, we are enticed by the possbility of an "Anti-Communist league," while we are friendly with many a Communist nation, we still feel that this would be beneficial to Kriegorgrad.

Yours,

Grand Inquisitorial Lord Matthias, Keeper of the Seal, Guardian of the Tome

EDIT: I'm interested in the RP. I doubt I'm worthy of RPing alongside High Lord DA but I'll give it a shot.

I take it this post is meant as Kriegorgrad, but you were logged on as the puppet at time, yes? Since the RP will be modern tech, i'll put down Kriegorgrad as #2 on the Mississippian bloc... I consider you pretty much worthy to RP alongside me, I'd consider it fun to RP with one so good as you. :) (I think most people who can write well, are probably worthy to RP with me, only fools such as the noobs that "Declare war to everybody, nukes you!" are the truly unworthy) but anyway, this will be a great RP, I'm sure. :)
Doomingsland
22-11-2004, 23:32
OOC:I would get involved in taking out Hattia, but I'm kinda busy being invaded right now.

EDIT:Actualy, I think I could free up some special forces. Might want to put me down, but you'll mostly be getting paramilitary support.
Kriegorgrad
22-11-2004, 23:42
I take it this post is meant as Kriegorgrad, but you were logged on as the puppet at time, yes? Since the RP will be modern tech, i'll put down Kriegorgrad as #2 on the Mississippian bloc... I consider you pretty much worthy to RP alongside me, I'd consider it fun to RP with one so good as you. :) (I think most people who can write well, are probably worthy to RP with me, only fools such as the noobs that "Declare war to everybody, nukes you!" are the truly unworthy) but anyway, this will be a great RP, I'm sure. :)

OOC: Oops, sorry about that! IMO I write well but I believe that is up to the beholder, I have gotten rusty and my descriptive skills have detoriated, so I'm sorry in advance if I muck anything up.

I look forward to RPing with you though and thank you very much for the complement. *is oblivious to the sarcasm that laced that very complement*
Callisdrun
22-11-2004, 23:51
OOC: I could do some weapons supply to Hattia, as long as I wouldn't have to go to actual war, kinda like the US was supplying the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan when the Soviets were trying to take over
Wirraway
22-11-2004, 23:56
The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway had been committed to stopping the spread of Communism since its founding out of the ashes of a failed socialist state. We realize the evils of the red plauge and have already fought it off at every turn with the Stop the Red alliance. It is with this mindset that we request to join The World Anti-Communist League.
Euroslavia
22-11-2004, 23:58
We find this to be a pathetic way to get involved in another sovereign nations politics. Our nation is a peaceful Communist union that has had no problem with any nation who wasn't Communist. As a matter of fact, majority of our allies are non-communist. Euroslavia will be keeping an eye on this Alliance.


EDIT: whoops. I'll edit that out. :)
Hattia
23-11-2004, 00:02
Erm, Euroslavia, I believe that message about attacking me was a secret IC thing...
Euroslavia
23-11-2004, 00:10
Erm, Euroslavia, I believe that message about attacking me was a secret IC thing...

Changed. Thanks for the reminder. I was just too excited, and responded without reading everything.
Hattia
23-11-2004, 00:32
Heh, no problem, I've done things like that plenty of times...
Armandian Cheese
23-11-2004, 00:42
I don't know if it's still possible, but could I join this anti-communist alliance? I believe I'm a fairly good writer, though you can judge for yourself. I don't know if you're willing to accept such a small nation in, however.
Borman Empire
23-11-2004, 01:22
OOC: Am I in?
Borman Empire
23-11-2004, 01:29
Official Imperial Communique

To: Decisive Action
From: Chancellor Licinius

Thank you for allowing us to join this most prestigous (sp?) alliance.

End Transmission
Euroslavia
23-11-2004, 01:30
Members:

1) Decisive Action (Founder)
2) Fascist Confederacy
3) Mississippian Egypt
4) Baalbek
5) Alexandrian Cabal
6) The Parthians
7) Armandian Cheese
8) Comdidia
9) Pernica
10) Avadria
11) Sevaris
12) Risban
13) Kahta
14) Communication
15) Borman Empire
16) Kriegorgrad
17) Doomingsland


There ya go Borman.
The Kievan People
23-11-2004, 01:30
The Allied States of The Kievan People believes Communism is a great threat to the pro-goverment policies and the manifest destiny of the Kievan People, and wishes to join this alliance. We pledge the full resources of our great nation to destroying the Communist threat.

- Ivan Danya, Ambassador of the Allied States of The Kievan People.
Armandian Cheese
23-11-2004, 01:34
OOC: Is the 3rd spot on the anti-Hattia force still open?
Derscon
23-11-2004, 03:03
OOC: HAHA! Hattia, don't you feel all special!
Borman Empire
23-11-2004, 03:08
There ya go Borman.

OOC: Thanks.
Zarbia
23-11-2004, 03:14
Seeing other RWC members here, we would like to join as well.
Kanabia
23-11-2004, 03:52
OOC: I'm a close ally of Hattia, so maybe I could join on his side?
Callisdrun
23-11-2004, 05:30
OOC: I was kind of hoping for the giving-weapons&money-to-Hattia spot, myself.
Kanabia
23-11-2004, 06:35
OOC: OK, i've got another RP in progress anyhow.


...but I so want to get on the enemy list of this alliance :D
Gryson
23-11-2004, 06:41
(Gryson news)
Reporter: hello and welcome to another addition of meet the press. Today we have with us his majesty, protectorer of our land Adam Heshinsi. So tell us about Gryson's recent deployment to aid Canada in its war against Tyrador.

Protectorer Heshinsi: At this moment I can not discuss much on that topic.

Reporter:well then sir, rumors are circulating about a rouge splinter orginisation which has made its international priority the hunting and dismantling of all Communist states. Could you reflect on that sir.

Protectorer Heshinsi: well at this point we are not quite clear about what this groups real agenda is, but I can tell you this. Gryson and its allies are prepared to meet in force he whosoever dares to launch any attacks without U.N authorisation on a soverign independent state.

Reporter: When you say allies you're implaying a NATO reaction, right?

Protectorer Heshinsi: That is correct, NATO will not sit idally and watch the implementation of the wiches of these crazed individuals, they will be stoped:

Reporter: thats all the time we have. Thank you for coming sir, and we'll see you next time on meet the press.
Armandian Cheese
23-11-2004, 07:12
Crazed? NATO was started as an anti-Communsit force, sir.
Pacitalia
23-11-2004, 07:20
Bill N-58: Membership to ACL

The House of Parliamentary Legislation has voted as follows:

The Republic of Pacitalia should join the Anti-Communist League in the hopes that communism will be flushed from the earth forever, as its extreme views have no place in a moderate world such as that which we live in today.

Of 120 MPPs

Agree - 89
Disagree - 18
Undecided - 10
Did Not Vote - 3

The Senatoro has voted as follows:

Of 100 senators

Agree - 75
Disagree - 22
Undecided - 1
Did Not Vote - 2

========

Pacitalia will join the Anti-Communist League.
Gryson
23-11-2004, 07:21
Times change. The cold war is over, now we focus on crazy people bent on world domination. Look at it this way. The communist states these days keep their ideoligies to themselves we have no problem with that, but you guys you want to invade other countries. key word (Invade) :sniper: .
Armandian Cheese
23-11-2004, 07:23
Yes, but Communism's very definition calls for the aggressive spread of Communism.
Gryson
23-11-2004, 07:34
Don't you get it. My region is NATO Headquarters. Most of our members are right wing. Once you start knocking out commies, right wing and nationalists are next. I know all about NATO and Warsaw and all that stuff, but when I say NATO I just mean my region. :D
Elizajeff
23-11-2004, 07:57
Elizajeff offers our full support to the Proletariat brothers-in-arms of Hattia, Callisdrun, and Euroslavia.
Callisdrun
23-11-2004, 08:04
OOC: Armandian Cheese, this is NS... not real life. NATO in NS is simply an alliance.
Euroslavia
23-11-2004, 17:01
Yes, but Communism's very definition calls for the aggressive spread of Communism.


We have a modified version of Communism that disallows the 'aggressive spread of Communism'. We find that such an aggressive manner is unnecessary in the modern world, and toppling legitimate governments is not something we would ever do.
Serafima
23-11-2004, 18:29
Does Serafima need to do anything, i have sent my newest foreign affairs expert Goldberry Hanover (http://img.www.tolkienonline.com/gallery/archive/grace-as-goldberry-rts.jpg)


'Goldberrys plane wishes to land on DA, is this possible?' asks the pilot as they fly around DA.
Unguided Shrapnel
23-11-2004, 19:08
Might as well break back into this game. I would like to join this alliance.
Serafima
23-11-2004, 19:36
Does Serafima need to do anything, i have sent my newest foreign affairs expert Goldberry Hanover (http://img.www.tolkienonline.com/gallery/archive/grace-as-goldberry-rts.jpg)


'Goldberrys plane wishes to land on DA, is this possible?' asks the pilot as they fly around DA.

is this still possible? all the nations wishing too should all gather
Hrstrovokia
23-11-2004, 19:38
I look forward to the day when we smash your pathetic gathering of right-wing loonies and your teetering thrones are finally cast into the void, it shall be a glorious moment, as at last, the inevitable victory of Socialism over Capitalism is realised.

President & General Secretary Sean Matthews
Modguy
23-11-2004, 19:53
Breaking news from the Nation News Network!
the screen fades to the normal news room setting
His Holieness Has Announced that he will be makeing a speach today Regarding a new Anti Communist league; The World Anti-Communist League. in oth- wait, his Holieness has taken up his place on the podium..

The screen now switchs to a sceen inside the Royal Palace with a impressive lean man in blood red robes infront of a Podium with the royal insignia consisting of a rising sun with close rays shooting up on a field of blood red and 2 orange stripes running diagnaly
" Today, a brave venture in the acts of the furtherment of man kind has been made, a League that will finnaly stand up to fight aginst the evil communist regimes that is determined to run any self respecting man through the mud, stripping him of his rights of supremicy over others. We as a patriotic nation must join this league to Ensure that our nation has a safe guard aginst the numerous Communist forces that always lurk to find a week country to grab and drag into the dark abyss!"
Modguy
23-11-2004, 20:12
bumpity
Decisive Action
23-11-2004, 21:09
Breaking news from the Nation News Network!
the screen fades to the normal news room setting
His Holieness Has Announced that he will be makeing a speach today Regarding a new Anti Communist league; The World Anti-Communist League. in oth- wait, his Holieness has taken up his place on the podium..

The screen now switchs to a sceen inside the Royal Palace with a impressive lean man in blood red robes infront of a Podium with the royal insignia consisting of a rising sun with close rays shooting up on a field of blood red and 2 orange stripes running diagnaly
" Today, a brave venture in the acts of the furtherment of man kind has been made, a League that will finnaly stand up to fight aginst the evil communist regimes that is determined to run any self respecting man through the mud, stripping him of his rights of supremicy over others. We as a patriotic nation must join this league to Ensure that our nation has a safe guard aginst the numerous Communist forces that always lurk to find a week country to grab and drag into the dark abyss!"


Did you just declare you want to join?
Unguided Shrapnel
23-11-2004, 21:26
So, am I in?
Taldaan
23-11-2004, 21:30
The government of Taldaan condemns this allianc as an attempt to force misguided right-wing government on all left-wing nations. There are many peaceful, prosperous communist and socialist nations, the latter of which we are proud to count ourselves among. Socialism has never done anyone any harm, in fact it is the path to a more equal and free country, eventually leading to the long-sought utopian society which we of Taldaan strive for. Dismiss us as idealists or commies if you wish, but in the end you will see that we were right.

Taldaan Foreign Affairs Ministry
Borman Empire
23-11-2004, 21:48
But how can we see you were right, when in fact, theory, and practice you were not.
Taldaan
23-11-2004, 22:20
In practice, Democratic Socialism is doing just fine in our nation.
In theory, it is the best system there is. This has yet to be proved, as there are many different ways of deciding what is best. In terms of economy, for instance, a communist nation is never going to come out top of the list. In terms of happiness, though, a hard-line oppresive right-wing nation will never come top.
In fact, socialism has made our nation the way it is today, not a particularly militarily or economically powerful nation, but one where the people are happy, free, and well looked after. I hope you will agree that happiness is more important than numbers of nuclear missiles.
Cassopia
23-11-2004, 22:28
OOC: Is this a paramilitary group, or a protest group?
Pacitalia
24-11-2004, 00:57
OOC: Is this a paramilitary group, or a protest group?

Neither. It's an alliance to protect against threats of communism. Read the first post by DA.
Iuthia
24-11-2004, 01:41
Out of curiosity, how will this alliance of nations against Communism actually going to define the level of Communism they are against? Will you just be opposed to nations which fall under the sterotypical communist regime, for example, the ones who actually call themselves "Communist" and are proud of it.

Or will your group be looking into the economic and social structure of other nations in order to determine whether or not to recognise their legitimacy as the leadership of the nation they are in control of?

It's clear that by stating the willing to ignore any notion of national sovereignty when a "Communist" nation, as defined by your alliance, is concerned. So we wish to determine which sort of nations fall under your broad wording. In a sense Iuthia shares some values one may associate with a communism... however we also share various values of other more authoritarian systems, we are unique.

While we don't expect trouble directly from this alliance, or other alliances specifically targetting certain political systems because of intolerance of anothers methods, we would like to get the impression of how our friends may be indirectly affected, some of which very easily fall under the "Communist" label.

Thanks for any further definitions on your alliances goals and interpretation on the sort of commies they wish to work again,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Borman Empire
24-11-2004, 04:25
bump
Gryson
24-11-2004, 15:29
Gryson will support Hattia.
Vas Pokhoronim
24-11-2004, 15:58
Ooc- In response to the UN Resolution Rights of Minorities and Women and the general rise of the communist movement


"With the furtherance of the so-called Civil Rights movement and supposed and alleged global human rights, maintaining the fallacy of world cultural equality, debasing the Mississippian and other whites to the level of the cannibalistic African negro, we are reminded of something, communism... That pathetic system that attempts to make all artificially equal by beating the superiors into a position lower than nature has intended for them, thus making the great men equal of the lesser men by forcing the great men down to the same levels of the lesser men."

1) Hattia
2)
Moral reptiles like yourselves should consider it an honor to be raised to a level of equality with a 'cannibal negro.' But all hierarchies are made by men--not nature, which is blind to value-laden terms like 'superior' and 'inferior.' It is not the color a man's skin that irrevocably defines his soul or his mind or the fineness of his moral sentiment. Such is an absurd proposition, and one need look no further than the reeking white stain on Mississippi to behold its inarguable refutation in the spiritual corruption, intellectual debasement, and moral wretchedness of its inhabitants.
A system founded upon the cornerstone of injustice cannot endure. Callous, hateful, and needlessly-prejudiced men like you and your brethren, Fabus, caused the Civil Rights movement as a necessary answer to your oppressions, as the many private tyrannies of the Industrial Revolution provoked the rejoinder of Marxism. Time and the inevitable tendency of men to seek redress for their grievances will take you to your graves, and it is only regrettable that the process sometimes will need to be hastened.
This we are willing to do.
Hattia, you have Allies. All you racist sons of bitches, you have Trouble.
We will bury you.
-Vkhled Kznynsky, Delegate to SocAlComm for the Democratic Republic of Vas Pokhoronim
Communist Brazil
24-11-2004, 17:15
Official Statement from the People's Communist Party of Brazil (Maoist)

"The WACL has not presented a threat to the credible, and legitimate People's Communist Party of Brazil (Maoist). Thus, we will not react with force to this delegation of sovereign nations, until they interfere in our sovereign affairs.

I am not white. I have partial native blood, which I am proud of, for I am truly a man of Brazil, which is a nation and people I myself would die for. I am going to repeat some of your words, this specifically tied with the... Introduction you gave towards the beginning of this thread.

With the furtherance of the so-called Civil Rights movement and supposed and alleged global human rights, maintaining the fallacy of world cultural equality, debasing the Mississippian and other whites to the level of the cannibalistic African negro,
Debasing? The Civil Rights movement has never persecuted a white, not in Communist Brazil, not anywhere. A white's "position" in society has not changed, it has only let those of other races enter these positions along side whites. It, as a fact, remains that in nations dominated by whites, most people in the higher echelons of society are in fact, white. Your point is one that seeks to stoke hatred, which is a tactic that the international community at large does not appreciate.

we are reminded of something, communism...
Yes, we do have a knack for being more tolerant than you, don't we?

That pathetic system that attempts to make all artificially equal by beating the superiors into a position lower than nature has intended for them,
We do not beat down "superiors." What superiors are you speaking of? The rich? That is the worst of condradictions, and hypocrisy. You, you are saying we go against nature with economic equality among all workers and people, and hoepfully leading to a state without the need for, well, a state. But nature has nothing to do with fortune, riches, that is what is being artificially created. Fortune is the artificial superiority the rich use on the poor, which is why we fight for economic equality.

thus making the great men equal of the lesser men by forcing the great men down to the same levels of the lesser men.
In socialist regimes, there are great men, and there are lesser men. A person's place in society is determined by accomplishments, skill, and ethic, which is better than any value you may come with. Great men are not lessened to the place of lesser men. You refer to race and economic power, yet I have already shown you your hypocrisy.

You will not listen to what i have to say, you probally have already stopped reading. But mark my words. If your alliance, ever, tries to topple the credible, legitimate regime of a socialist state, Brazil and her allies will descend upon your wolfpack, we shall beat our plowshares into swords, and will see that socialism is not ineffective in military, war or peace. Though, I implore you not to get to this point, but the conflagaration you have created in your desperate attempt to control other nations, which the fellow members of this "alliance," which is no more than a system that you, Mississippi, is using to extend your power.

We formally request to be beside Hattia as the first line of defense against you and our comrades. And we shall do so with no regret."

Signed
El Presidente Juan Osvaldo Hernadez (http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/ops/images/hugo-chavez-02.jpg)
Risban
24-11-2004, 17:26
A message arrives from Risban.
"The Empire of Risban shall be withdrawn from the WACL as of now. We have ours reasons and currently do not feel like explain them.
Thankyou,
Alexander Perkins, Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs."
Iuthia
24-11-2004, 17:30
To understand why they feel Communism is debasing white people you really need to know more about the nation you are dealing with here. These people foolishly concider their white men to be superiour to others despite evidence to suggest otherwise. A society which encourages equal treatment of all people such as with Communism will offend this this nation which feels that white people should be given priority, especially their own white men.

Because this issue is a matter of opinion, it's important to remember the background of nations when they state their positions on such things so you understand more about why they act in the way they do.

Of course, communists are not the only system which encourages fair treatment of all races. Many democratic nations and non-democratic nations also treat their people equally regardless of race, though in some cases that "equal" treatment is more like treating them equally as bad as the other.
Right thinking whites
24-11-2004, 18:33
the nation of right thinking whites would like to submit an aplication to enter your league against the communist threat
Borman Empire
25-11-2004, 01:43
bump
Armandian Cheese
26-11-2004, 23:12
Fools! Just because DA is a racist nation, does not mean the entire alliance is! We all oppose Communism for our seperate reasons...
Avadria
26-11-2004, 23:19
Precisely
Pantheaa
26-11-2004, 23:26
God speed

Pantheaa throws it's full suport for this alliance, we hope nations will see the true benefits of democratic federalism


Foreign Minister
Spencer Hahns

Presdient
Hugo Belmount
Casana
26-11-2004, 23:54
Fools! Just because DA is a racist nation, does not mean the entire alliance is! We all oppose Communism for our seperate reasons...
"True, we and many other nations condemn this alliance on the basis that it is lead by a racist nation, Decisive Action. We have not condemned every single nation in this alliance for being racist. However, we believe that racism applies to this alliance on the basis that:

A) It is lead by one of the most large, influential, and hated individual nation that is flagrantly racist. Socialism, at its core, is anti-racist, because it seeks to break down the boundaries between all persyns, based on class, gender, or race. Not only has the nation of Decisive Action violated the rights all persyns have because of race, but also of gender (specifically towards wimmin) and class (by instituting of the most arcahic insitutions of class, that of feudalism), keeping a legacy resembling ancient slavery alive to exploit those of lower statio

B) Because Decisive Action is at the helm of such a alliance, it can use its massive influence over the nation and its hegemony to push the alliance not only towards racism, sexism, and feudalism, but use the alliance to:

1] Commit acts pertaining to these persecution.
2] Foster hatred towards communism and use the hate to cloud justification for these atrocities
3] Suppress freedom of expression by persecuting a political ideology
4] Using the alliance to justify its actions among anti-socialist organizations
5] Use the alliance to protect itself from its own people and other foreign powers who seek retribution should it commit atrocities on the basis of race, sex, or class
6] Demonize communism to the point where it a McCarthian excuse for any action
7] Violate a state's sovereignty (despite hypocritical statements that interference in DA is a violation of) by deposing a communist regime in a military coup

C) We are members of Communist Parties, we subscribe to inherently Marxist beliefs, save for a few, we all have some connection to a single idea. We may be Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyists, or as me, a Maoist. We have varying ideas on how communism should be handled. However, the presence of an Anti-Communist alliance such as this is a threat to our existence. Without providing any justification for the hate being fostered by this alliance, it disrupts our attempts to run our nations. As socialists, communists all, we have a right to defend our ideology, so thus, we oppose this alliance, in principle, we believe in freedom of expression, but because of reasons stated, in relation to Decisive Action, we oppose it.

These are my arguments. If this alliance replies intelligently with an appropriate rebuttal, then you have gained my respect, but I doubt you will take the time.

If anything, provide a justification on why communism is a "disease," if you could. It could be said that capitalism, authoritarianism, federalism, imperialism all was a disease, and I would be able to provide justification. To support the credibility of your alliance, please present us with the reasoning behind your beliefs."- Hyun Kwung-soon, Korean-Casanese revolutionary and author
Iuthia
27-11-2004, 02:48
Fools! Just because DA is a racist nation, does not mean the entire alliance is! We all oppose Communism for our seperate reasons...

Yet the words of which the alliance are founded on are in themselves racist. Are you saying you don't agree with the alliances own wording which you are bound to?
Hrstrovokia
27-11-2004, 02:56
Yet the words of which the alliance are founded on are in themselves racist. Are you saying you don't agree with the alliances own wording which you are bound to?

[OOC: This is because DA is a racist.]
Iuthia
27-11-2004, 03:28
OOC: Both me, the player and my nation know this, they are a racist In Character and probably only In Character (I should hope). However you have to remember that these are the words the alliance was formed with, these racist words and seeing as you are allying with this "racist" nation because of you agree with their views (on some level) it isn't hard to see why you too are being branded in the same way as we would brand them.

Oh, and explaining your nations position OOC doesn't actually affect our IC opinion, seeing as the two don't mix...
Borman Empire
28-11-2004, 22:49
bump
Decisive Action
28-11-2004, 23:16
updated the list of who is in. If I forgot to add you, just TG or post.
Borman Empire
29-11-2004, 02:53
bump
Unguided Shrapnel
30-11-2004, 13:21
updated the list of who is in. If I forgot to add you, just TG or post.

You forgot to add me.
Decisive Action
30-11-2004, 13:40
You forgot to add me.


added
Kahta
01-12-2004, 02:47
bump
Borman Empire
01-12-2004, 03:49
bump
Soviet leaders
01-12-2004, 03:56
Nazis Vs Communisum Or Facist Vs. World
Borman Empire
01-12-2004, 22:57
Nope, not close.
Armandian Cheese
05-12-2004, 22:00
The reasons for eliminating Communism given by the leader are not the same reasons we have. However, we are allied because we have the same goal, albeit not the same reasons for that goal. This alliance is solely based to elimate Communism, which is an oppressive system. First of all, it is economically unsound (in ways that I cannot begin to list), and second, it is innately opressive because it gives far too much power to bureacrats.
Borman Empire
06-12-2004, 03:56
OOC: My country recently became communist. Just to let you know.
Decisive Action
07-12-2004, 13:54
Secret IC to Alliance members.


Attention, Attention, Mississippian sovereignty is being threatened by a communist government, ready your armies for possible use.

I suggest we immediately target his government for a regime change.

Ooc-
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7645704&postcount=72
Decisive Action
07-12-2004, 13:57
Secret IC to Alliance members.


"It is the suggestion of our government that since "Canad a" (The Federal Republic of Canada) as well as "The Canadian Union" are both communist powers that are actively seeking to harm an alliance member (Mississippi) for reasons of no serious provokation, that we change their regimes quickly."


Czar Roger Fabus
Communist Arkonia
07-12-2004, 15:10
The nature of this alliance is cause for great concern among open-minded nations. Clearly, the McCarthyism of it's policy will only invoke militant Communist nations to counter with their own alliance in defence.

And I suppose passive Communist peoples such as ourselves are of some great threat aswell?

Your efforts will likely be counter-productive.

~ Most Revered Prime Minister, Miss Abrenda Talimm, on behalf of Comrade Alexander
Borman Empire
08-12-2004, 00:03
I think this is to target communist nations that are a threat to the world. A communist nation, such as TIOR, that just minds his own buisness and such would nto be a threat. A communist nation such as Canad a that targets capitalist nations and tries to bring them down would be a target of us.
Armandian Cheese
08-12-2004, 22:28
Very well then. Our nation has moved into alert status. We attack on DA's command. Canad a shall fail to the might of capitalism!
~Emperor Armand
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:33
Secret IC:


To All WACL members.


From: Czar Roger Fabus


"The signal to launch the attack against The Canadian Union will be the broadcast in the II forum of a message with the words "Climbed The Mountain" in it. So when you see that, immediately launch any invasion plans you have against The Canadian Union."


Ooc- If there is to be a brawl, we'd all best talk with the boy first, at any rate, there might or not might be. Depends if he gives me reparations for the blizzard I'm about to blame him for causing.
Armandian Cheese
08-12-2004, 22:35
Well, do you plan to negotiate with him by yourself?
Decisive Action
08-12-2004, 22:35
Well, do you plan to negotiate with him by yourself?



Ooc- Probably.
Borman Empire
09-12-2004, 15:24
...Encrypting...

Secret Transmission to DA:

We can not currently assist in these manners. Members of the RWC are under attack and another alliance of ours is under attack. When these matters are resolved we will be able to help once more.
Moronyicka
13-12-2004, 01:07
The nation of Moronyicka would like to join this great alliance.
Borman Empire
13-12-2004, 03:33
bump
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 03:38
We are shocked that a so-called anticommunist organization would grant membership to fascists, who are virtually indistinguishable from communists. They are both totalitarian, collectivist scum, and the arch-enemies of republican government, free enterprise, and peace.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Canadian Union
13-12-2004, 03:43
We are shocked that a so-called anticommunist organization would grant membership to fascists, who are virtually indistinguishable from communists. They are both totalitarian, collectivist scum, and the arch-enemies of republican government, free enterprise, and peace.

-Generalissimo J.L.

I would second Generalissimo J.L's statements. Mississippi already believes I'm communist because I married an Asian woman. Therefore, he's been plotting against myself and the nation since, even though we are, in reality, anti-Communist.

-Colin Graves
Prime Minister of East Canada
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 03:51
We are shocked that a so-called anticommunist organization would grant membership to fascists, who are virtually indistinguishable from communists. They are both totalitarian, collectivist scum, and the arch-enemies of republican government, free enterprise, and peace.

-Generalissimo J.L.


"We only seek to stop those who would destroy economies, create artificial equalities, and make all people serfs, in other words, communists."

Czar Roger Fabus
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 03:52
I would second Generalissimo J.L's statements. Mississippi already believes I'm communist because I married an Asian woman. Therefore, he's been plotting against myself and the nation since, even though we are, in reality, anti-Communist.

-Colin Graves
Prime Minister of East Canada

I, too, married an Asian woman. And yet, I am the staunchest anticommunist in history. I am more anticommunist than Joe McCarthy, Robert Taft, Martin Dies, Larry MacDonald, Robert Welch, Alan Stang, James Eastland, Otto Otepka, J. Edgar Hoover, Nguyen Cao Ky, Nguyen Van Thieu, Bao Dai, Le Van Vien, Boun Oum, Lon Nol, Ferdinand Marcos, Anastasio Somoza Garcia, Luis Somoza, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Rafael Trujillo, Augusto Pinochet, Fulgencio Batista, Efraín Ríos Montt, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, King Faisal, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Ian Smith, Balthazar Vorster, Pieter Willem Botha, Lucas Mangope, Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Ramon Magsaysay, Carlos Garcia, Diosdado P. Macapagal, Francisco Franco, Antonio Salazar, Chiang Kai-shek, Syngman Rhee, Park Chung Hee, Jonas Savimbi, Johannes Gerhardus Strijdom, Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd, Jorge Rafael Videla, Ezra Taft Benson, Anton Ivanovich Denikin, Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel, Aleksandr Vasilevich Kolchak, Nikolai Nikolaevich Yudenich, Pyotr Nikolayevich Krasnov, George Orwell, Nikolai Tolstoy, Sir Robert Menzies, Sir Keith Holyoake, Draza Mihailovich, Harry Wu, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Stanisaw Mikoajczyk, Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, George Stratemeyer, and Thanom Kittitakchorn COMBINED.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Canadian Union
13-12-2004, 03:54
I, too, married an Asian woman. And yet, I am the staunchest anticommunist in history. I am more anticommunist than Joe McCarthy, Robert Taft, Martin Dies, Larry MacDonald, Robert Welch, Alan Stang, James Eastland, Otto Otepka, J. Edgar Hoover, Nguyen Cao Ky, Nguyen Van Thieu, Bao Dai, Le Van Vien, Boun Oum, Lon Nol, Ferdinand Marcos, Anastasio Somoza Garcia, Luis Somoza, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Rafael Trujillo, Augusto Pinochet, Fulgencio Batista, Efraín Ríos Montt, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, King Faisal, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Ian Smith, Balthazar Vorster, Pieter Willem Botha, Lucas Mangope, Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Ramon Magsaysay, Carlos Garcia, Diosdado P. Macapagal, Francisco Franco, Antonio Salazar, Chiang Kai-shek, Syngman Rhee, Park Chung Hee, Jonas Savimbi, Johannes Gerhardus Strijdom, Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd, Jorge Rafael Videla, Ezra Taft Benson, and Thanom Kittitakchorn COMBINED.

-President J.L.

Precisely. However, according to DA, if you mix races, then you can't be anti-Communist. Odd logic, to say the least. No, wait, I correct myself. It's complete bullshit.

-Colin Graves
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 04:01
I, too, married an Asian woman. And yet, I am the staunchest anticommunist in history. I am more anticommunist than Joe McCarthy, Robert Taft, Martin Dies, Larry MacDonald, Robert Welch, Alan Stang, James Eastland, Otto Otepka, J. Edgar Hoover, Nguyen Cao Ky, Nguyen Van Thieu, Bao Dai, Le Van Vien, Boun Oum, Lon Nol, Ferdinand Marcos, Anastasio Somoza Garcia, Luis Somoza, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Rafael Trujillo, Augusto Pinochet, Fulgencio Batista, Efraín Ríos Montt, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, King Faisal, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Ian Smith, Balthazar Vorster, Pieter Willem Botha, Lucas Mangope, Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Ramon Magsaysay, Carlos Garcia, Diosdado P. Macapagal, Francisco Franco, Antonio Salazar, Chiang Kai-shek, Syngman Rhee, Park Chung Hee, Jonas Savimbi, Johannes Gerhardus Strijdom, Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd, Jorge Rafael Videla, Ezra Taft Benson, and Thanom Kittitakchorn COMBINED.

-President J.L.


"I am related to Augosto Pinochet, my father was good friends with Vorster, still is good friends with Botha and Smith, and met Salazar and Franco when he was a young lad... Also the Schachts and Stahleckers are very good friends with the Verwoerds, Smiths, Vorsters, Bothas, and Strijdoms, so how you dare you claim to be more right-wing than they who have stood up for our white race."

Czar Roger Fabus



Ooc- The Pinochets and Fabuses are cousins via a marriage, as are the Stahleckers and Leopoldo Galtieri (via marriage), and thus the Fabuses and Leopolod Galtieri are related as a Stahlecker married a Fabus. The Fabus family is connected with most white South American dictators and many of the old monarchs of Europe.
Pacitalia
13-12-2004, 04:04
Yes, I third your statements, although I am already a member and agree with DA on many of their points.

I am marrying a half-Chinese woman IC soon (Starr Williams), does that make me communist? Not at all. I'm fiercely capitalist.
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 04:05
"My mother is one of the daughters of Leopoldo Galtieri, Francesca Galtieri, when she was 16, she met and married my father, Hans Stahlecker, who was 46 at the time."


Paul Stahlecker
The Canadian Union
13-12-2004, 04:06
"My mother is one of the daughters of Leopoldo Galtieri, Francesca Galtieri, when she was 16, she met and married my father, Hans Stahlecker, who was 46 at the time."


Paul Stahlecker

"GALTIERI-IS-AN-ASSHOLE. His government led the illegal invasion and occupation of the Falkland Islands, a UK dependency. He had no right to do that. The Falklands have been and shall remain British."

-Colin Graves
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 04:06
Yes, I third your statements, although I am already a member and agree with DA on many of their points.

I am marrying a half-Chinese woman IC soon (Starr Williams), does that make me communist? Not at all. I'm fiercely capitalist.


"It makes your nation more inclined to accept Maoism as the theories of Mao are such that they are now second nature, nearly instinctual to many Chinese."

Paul Stahlecker
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 04:07
"GALTIERI-IS-AN-ASSHOLE. His government led the illegal invasion and occupation of the Falkland Islands, a UK dependency. He had no right to do that. The Falklands have been and shall remain British."

-Colin Graves



"Yes, but when the British struck a counter-attack against mainland Argentina, after driving them out of the Malvinas Islands, the Volunteer Guard and Argentine recruits in locally raised VG units, dealt a crippling blow to the wretched English. Over 10,000 were killed before they finally withdrew."


Paul Stahlecker
Pacitalia
13-12-2004, 04:08
Well thought. But she's fourth-generation Chinese-Pacitalian. So I for one am not worried.

Prime Minister Timothy Ell

OOC - DA, would you be willing to help in my anti-terrorist RP? >> http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381025
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 04:08
"It makes your nation more inclined to accept Maoism as the theories of Mao are such that they are now second nature, nearly instinctual to many Chinese."

Paul Stahlecker

What about Chiang Kai-shek, or the anticommunist people of Taiwan?
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 04:11
"I am related to Augosto Pinochet, my father was good friends with Vorster, still is good friends with Botha and Smith, and met Salazar and Franco when he was a young lad... Also the Schachts and Stahleckers are very good friends with the Verwoerds, Smiths, Vorsters, Bothas, and Strijdoms, so how you dare you claim to be more right-wing than they who have stood up for our white race."

Czar Roger Fabus

You say you are right-wing, and yet you allow fascists into your alliance.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Borman Empire
13-12-2004, 04:20
J.L. my friend, DA is a fierce right-wing nation. I am am a member and several people, namely members of NATO, have accused me of being fascist. Yet I am not a communist. I do not agree with the Fabus regime on all of their policies, but I do on many. This notion of marrying a chinese women and then making the nation more susceptible to communism is pretty far-fetched.

((OOC: Im using an alternate reality to my commie thread))
Armandian Cheese
13-12-2004, 06:02
My fellow memebers,
This alliance was founded with a noble goal. But what have we done to reach it? We must strike and eliminate Communism, not squabble over views on race. That is irrelevant. Defeat the Communists, so that the oppressed peoples of those nations can cry "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty, we are free at last!" I say that this league can do some real good in this world, if it acts.
Pacitalia
13-12-2004, 06:42
My fellow memebers,
This alliance was founded with a noble goal. But what have we done to reach it? We must strike and eliminate Communism, not squabble over views on race. That is irrelevant. Defeat the Communists, so that the oppressed peoples of those nations can cry "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty, we are free at last!" I say that this league can do some real good in this world, if it acts.

Well said, but we have nothing really to act on. There are no communist nations threatening the WACL's common security.
Armandian Cheese
13-12-2004, 06:53
This league wasn't founded to defend itself! It was founded to root out oppressive Communists! To free the most people, I suggest we challenge a large Communist league. It shall be the a climactic battle of Communist versus Capitalist! A final showdown, if you will.
Pacitalia
13-12-2004, 06:55
This league wasn't founded to defend itself! It was founded to root out oppressive Communists! To free the most people, I suggest we challenge a large Communist league. It shall be the a climactic battle of Communist versus Capitalist! A final showdown, if you will.

I think you're being a little foolish right now.
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 07:01
My fellow memebers,
This alliance was founded with a noble goal. But what have we done to reach it? We must strike and eliminate Communism, not squabble over views on race. That is irrelevant. Defeat the Communists, so that the oppressed peoples of those nations can cry "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty, we are free at last!" I say that this league can do some real good in this world, if it acts.


Show me an aggressive communist nation that is threatening our interests, and I will be the first to call for action and lead the way in taking decisive action against their forces.
Armandian Cheese
13-12-2004, 07:08
I would say that we should target large Communist Alliances (such as the Red Bloc Army), whose goals are to further the disease called "Communism." We cannot stand idly by as these alliances oppress their peoples; after all, if we are solely a defensive alliance, then what makes us different from any other defensive group out there? We must act, not simply wait around and let them oppress their people just as long as they do not "threaten our interests."
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 07:22
I would say that we should target large Communist Alliances (such as the Red Bloc Army), whose goals are to further the disease called "Communism." We cannot stand idly by as these alliances oppress their peoples; after all, if we are solely a defensive alliance, then what makes us different from any other defensive group out there? We must act, not simply wait around and let them oppress their people just as long as they do not "threaten our interests."


Ooc- My neighbor and co-conspirator in numerous intrigues, Communist Louisiana, is a communist nation, and thus I'm basically soft on Communist nations that aren't an immediate military threat to myself and my allies. Thus unless you can show me immediate threats, let's just let it rest, for now at least, okay?
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 22:55
(OOC: DA, this is an extremely dumb question, but I'm just curious: Have you ever met Ian Smith IRL?)
Decisive Action
13-12-2004, 23:09
(OOC: DA, this is an extremely dumb question, but I'm just curious: Have you ever met Ian Smith IRL?)



No, not yet, I'd very much like to... I'll put it to you this way, it was safer for a to be at the intersection of Florence and Normandy during the King Riots than it is for a white man to be anywhere in Zimbabwe today. But I might go, just to meet him, if he is still seeing visitors (He had an open door policy with visitors at his farm, prior to his farm being seized and his being ejected off of it)
Roach-Busters
13-12-2004, 23:18
No, not yet, I'd very much like to... I'll put it to you this way, it was safer for a to be at the intersection of Florence and Normandy during the King Riots than it is for a white man to be anywhere in Zimbabwe today. But I might go, just to meet him, if he is still seeing visitors (He had an open door policy with visitors at his farm, prior to his farm being seized and his being ejected off of it)

Yeah, being white myself, I wouldn't touch Zimbabwe with a sixty-foot pole. But yeah, I'd like to meet Mr. Smith, too. That would be a real honor. :)
Armandian Cheese
14-12-2004, 06:09
Ooc- My neighbor and co-conspirator in numerous intrigues, Communist Louisiana, is a communist nation, and thus I'm basically soft on Communist nations that aren't an immediate military threat to myself and my allies. Thus unless you can show me immediate threats, let's just let it rest, for now at least, okay?
OOC: Alright. I guess I got a little melodramatic there. Still, I hoped this alliance would become more than just one of the gazillion defensive alliances out there...
Aztec Lands
14-12-2004, 06:15
We will join on one condition.

We have been attacked by communist-inspired terrorists. When they were put to Aztec sacrifice, we were invaded by a communist state. This is our reason for joining. We are tired of the rich, upper-class playboys and playgirls pretending to know about the "plight of the working class."

However:

We are well aware of Decisive Action's racial equality policy. We are no fan of white-supremacy, though do not be decieved: we are no fan of multiculturalism. In the race system, we would qualify as Native American- which, as we understand isn't even on the list proposed by Hitler, as most had been eradicated. But we weren't up with the Aryans, I suppose.

We are obviously unwilling to sign a pact with the devil to avoid Communism. We don't want to see any action of any sort, not even propaganda, against the people of the Aztec Lands.

Feel free to fire are the people of the Aztec National League, they have turned to the dark side- the red side.

If you keep this promise, we will join.
Aztec Lands
14-12-2004, 06:20
Bear in mind, D.A., that if we were of a different race, we would pass with flying colors:

-Father Knows Best Empire (like Fascism but much more efficient)
-Very right wing
-Oppose the UN vehemently
-Oppose "civil rights" as they are obstacles on the path to defense and unity

(Think about it: if every minority demands special treatment, how unified is your nation?)
-Oppose other perverse inventions of the late 20th and 21st centuries like gay marriage and extreme enviromentalism
-hyperreligious

We have also fought alongside the valiant Borman Empire in our war with Communism. They are very adroit at this and we salute them for it.
Callisdrun
14-12-2004, 06:36
This league wasn't founded to defend itself! It was founded to root out oppressive Communists! To free the most people, I suggest we challenge a large Communist league. It shall be the a climactic battle of Communist versus Capitalist! A final showdown, if you will.

The problem with that is that your side would lose.

OOC: It would probably turn into a nuke-IGNORE fest

Whatever happened to that Hattia thing? I was kinda juiced about that.
Aztec Lands
14-12-2004, 06:38
Although we will maintain a defensive stance if we join, we would assist in offensive operations if there is general group consensus.

Come on, you are a 25-nation alliance with at least one billion-person nation. If you are to take down large enemy states like Communist Louisiana, you need unity and decisive force. No chickening out when it's time to play hardball with Lenin.
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 07:04
The problem with that is that your side would lose.

OOC: It would probably turn into a nuke-IGNORE fest

Whatever happened to that Hattia thing? I was kinda juiced about that.


Ooc- I do believe Hattia just started his civil war, thus we move start operations soon. For now, I'm working on a nice sized 1984 Civil War RP update.
Aztec Lands
14-12-2004, 19:32
After the Emperor has meet with his advisors, he has decided to apply for this alliance.
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 23:33
After the Emperor has meet with his advisors, he has decided to apply for this alliance.



Accepted.
Hogsweat
14-12-2004, 23:34
Can we join this alliance? We would play an active role in trying to undermine it.
Decisive Action
14-12-2004, 23:36
Can we join this alliance? We would play an active role in trying to undermine it.


Well sure why not, I suddenly got kicked by a mule and my IQ got lowered by 100 points... (Sarcasm)


Official Government Response:


"Negative."

Paul Stahlecker
Borman Empire
15-12-2004, 01:29
bump
Hogsweat
15-12-2004, 09:42
As a note to you Armandian Cheese, if you hit one Communist the rest will flock to their aid... remember this, or it shall be your downfall. Oh, and DA, why am I not on the "Commies to hit" list?
Hogsweat
15-12-2004, 09:51
OOC:Hmm.. When you first invade Hattia, can I send in some forces (only a few. No more than 14,000). We can say they get routed at the start so it doesn't mess up the closed RP afterwards.
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 14:58
As a note to you Armandian Cheese, if you hit one Communist the rest will flock to their aid... remember this, or it shall be your downfall. Oh, and DA, why am I not on the "Commies to hit" list?


Ooc-

You're not even important enough to register on our radar. (No offense)


Primarily because you released William Fabus, as promised, during that whole crisis deal, and I don't view you as really anything of a threat.
Socialist Serbia
15-12-2004, 15:35
Well, the whole point of communism is that everyone be treated equally, and, like Hogsweat already said, if you strike one communist nation, you'll have created your own personal mini-alliance hell-bent on destroying you...
Hogsweat
15-12-2004, 17:00
Heh.. I guess I should have shot him then. That's what I would have done if I had him now. Anyone against the WACL Should look at this: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381689
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 20:18
Page 1, post 1, target list updated.
Socialist Serbia
15-12-2004, 20:23
I'm a target now? Well, I must say I'm flattered. It means I'm pissing off all the right people.
Momanguise
15-12-2004, 20:28
Page 1, post 1, target list updated.

*quakes*

You just come and get me...
Decisive Action
15-12-2004, 20:36
All members are called upon to search far and wide for good anti-communist, pro-freedom recruits to fill the ranks of this alliance.




"In these times that try our souls, we must stand fast against the rising tide of communist imperialism sweeping across the world, and work together to build a new world order that will be based upon our ideals of freedom, morality, and our economic principles. If we fail in this endeavor, we will surely be reduced to the level of peasant serfs."

Deputy Foreign Minister, Curtis Fabus
Armandian Cheese
16-12-2004, 02:40
OOC: About those target nations...Do you have any RP's lined up with them?
The Burnsian Desert
16-12-2004, 02:44
Official Statement From The Burnsian Desert

Aw, we're not being targeted for a coup? You're making us feel left out.

Nazis.

President-General Mitchell Craig
President of The Burnsian Desert
P3X1299
16-12-2004, 03:08
To: The World Anti-Communist League
From: P3X1299 Foreign Office

Because of some recent developments regarding the militancy of Communist nations, and the fact that we are avowed capitalists, we feel we must request membership in this alliance because we feel that it can help to secure us against the threat that communism represents.

Sincerely,
Jack O'Malley
P3X1299 Secretary of State
Schoenburg
16-12-2004, 03:43
The republic of Schoenburg, strongly resists the idea of of an anti-communist league. While we have little military power, we can still resist you with out words. Communism is for the people, and destroying it is an affront to the people. You cannot expect the future of your country to be very bright if you destroy your own people's basic ideals. The world will be a much safer place with if your league never existed. Someday, maybe we will meet on the battlefield and settle this dispute the way your Capitalist pig puppets love to.
Schoenburg
16-12-2004, 03:45
The republic of Schoenburg, strongly resists the idea of of an anti-communist league. While we have little military power, we can still resist you with out words. Communism is for the people, and destroying it is an affront to the people. You cannot expect the future of your country to be very bright if you destroy your own people's basic ideals. The world will be a much safer place with if your league never existed. Someday, maybe we will meet on the battlefield and settle this dispute the way your Capitalist pig puppets love to.
Also we request to be put on your "target list"
[People First]
The visionary 9
Soviets Unions
16-12-2004, 03:46
Since your adding nations to your Hit list for your Nazi World Order, add me to the list .
Ronius Vigilantes
16-12-2004, 03:59
Funny how a communist nation can start an Anti-Communist league without question.

DA is a racist who opresses his people recklessly! Why do you people not realize that?

OOC: I know, you're going to go through your normal junk about how all the stupid n00bs are angry at your racism... Newsflash: I don't care. Also, that virus that you said wouldn't work- IT WOULD!
Psov
16-12-2004, 04:06
Psov Condemns this Alliance and all of it's nasty trappings, particularly since 4 of Psov's allies are listed as enemies of your downright belligerent orginazation.
Aztec Lands
16-12-2004, 04:21
We have one stipulation:

If there is any offensive action within one real-life week, we will be delayed in arriving- we are reconstructing the military and dramatically upsizing.
Aztec Lands
16-12-2004, 04:41
We are being targeted.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381689
Aztec Lands
16-12-2004, 04:42
Apologies for the third post in a row, but I am hosting a conference. I want to see WACL members there- this could be considered our first meeting.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381411
Pacitalia
16-12-2004, 04:56
I would like to point out that the majority of members in this alliance are not fascist, nor do they hold Nazi beliefs. That definitely includes my nation. I resent the remarks made.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia
P3X1299
16-12-2004, 05:20
News Broadcast in P3X1299
In a rare public appearance, police commissioner Joseph Callahan made the following statement:

Communist revolutionaries are a bunch of thieving brigand dogs that should be shot or arrested. We don't those types of revolutionaries in the world today.

We here at P3X1299 National News agree with the police commissioner on this issue. These communist revolutionaries are simply brigands that seek to use some warped type of ideology that has never worked in real life to enrich themselves or for a personal vendetta.
German Faith Movement
16-12-2004, 11:38
I too would like to join this alliance to help rid the world of these Red Pigs. I can supply 120,000 active troops and 600,00 reserve troops if needed.
Hallad
16-12-2004, 11:57
We in Hallad shall stand against this alliance untill the end! Any agression with be met with heavy resistance and much aid from the Federation, you can most certainly count on that. Death to the WACL!

The Commissariat of War
The Socialist Federation of Hallad
Praetonia
16-12-2004, 14:07
Damn you DA! Im only 8th on your enemies list! I deserve better!
Hogsweat
16-12-2004, 17:00
I too would like to join this alliance to help rid the world of these Red Pigs. I can supply 120,000 active troops and 600,00 reserve troops if needed.


DA, in the name of good RP, ignore this guy and don't let him into your alliance.
Taldaan
16-12-2004, 19:26
Once again, we condemn this obviously warmongering alliance. Any aggression against our communist and socialist allies will be met with force.

Taldaan

ooc: Can I be on your enemies list? I'm a socialist.
Decisive Action
17-12-2004, 13:35
Psov Condemns this Alliance and all of it's nasty trappings, particularly since 4 of Psov's allies are listed as enemies of your downright belligerent orginazation.


Anybody who joined the Anti-WACL alliance started by the marxist nation of Hogsweat, made the target list.
Decisive Action
17-12-2004, 13:36
Damn you DA! Im only 8th on your enemies list! I deserve better!


I copied and pasted the Hogsweat Aliance into the enemies list here, your numerical order is just whatever order you happened to be in. It means nothing.
Angelico
17-12-2004, 16:35
I copied and pasted the Hogsweat Aliance into the enemies list here, your numerical order is just whatever order you happened to be in. It means nothing.

OOC: By all means I would have to disagree. See, Hogsweat didn't form an alliance. Hogsweat initiated an international call for condemnation of this little racist, imperialist club you have here. And you find it so incredibly threatening that you intermix IC and OOC, finding the rediculous need to place Angelico, a moderate capitalist state 5th on your rediculous target list. Good call. It just adds credence that your League here isn't about communism, but rather finding an excuse to violate the sovereignty of other nations.
Celtayoshi
17-12-2004, 23:00
Speech to the nation, by Premeir Németh

"The Allied States of Celtayoshi shall not be swayed by the ethnocentrists in Decisive Action. They may call us their enemy, but we will not falter. They amy threaten us, but we will not falter, they may provoke us, but we will not falter, they may leave us the last nation standing, and if so then alone we will not falter. Celtayoshi will protect the communist nations, stand with them, if needs be the Celtayoshi Military will deploy to help them. Celtayoshi shall increase its military size, begining with the creation of 5 new battlegrouops and 4 carrier groups for the Navy, A whole new offensive wing for the airforce shall be set up (OOC note, size as of yet undertermined, depends what i can afford). The army shall recieve more than 2500 new tanks, and up to 1000 more artillery. We will provide them with the most modern equipement, deploy them anywhere, create a world leader in military. To help fund this we will stretch the existing military budget, as well as help our economy grow above and beyond its current fast pace. Celtayoshi will not be bullied into submission by anyone, nor will we be stand to the side whilst our socialist brothers are bullied into defeat."
Hogsweat
18-12-2004, 16:27
Yay, i'm a marxist!
Celtayoshi
18-12-2004, 23:37
Hogsweat, see tg
The Burnsian Desert
18-12-2004, 23:53
OOC: Gosh, I feel left out too. My nation is uber-liberal. Sigh... the price you pay...
Decisive Action
19-12-2004, 00:13
OOC: Gosh, I feel left out too. My nation is uber-liberal. Sigh... the price you pay...



Ooc- Yeah, but we regard you as more of a liberal nation with an incompetent government and an army that only counts on paper. We feel if your armed forces were capable at all, they'd have been able to keep the Fabus monarchy in power, as it was didn't your armed forces basically collapse overnight the second Sylvia fled and William was abducted? They lacked the Mississippian battle spirit, which is why after the Fabus monarchy is eventually restored whenever it is restored, the Mississippian armed forces will dispatch a few dozen divisions to garrison TBD until such time as the natives and other non-whites can be exterminated or enslaved, and the white burnsians elevated to total dominance under the Sylvia regime, then the MS forces will pull out, leaving only the "Embassy" (base) garrison and a few other divisions to keep Sylvia in power against whatever else there is... But before this can happen, I suppose we need to topple your current inept government, thus you will be added to the list shortly.
The Burnsian Desert
19-12-2004, 00:17
Ooc- Yeah, but we regard you as more of a liberal nation with an incompetent government and an army that only counts on paper. We feel if your armed forces were capable at all, they'd have been able to keep the Fabus monarchy in power, as it was didn't your armed forces basically collapse overnight the second Sylvia fled and William was abducted? They lacked the Mississippian battle spirit, which is why after the Fabus monarchy is eventually restored whenever it is restored, the Mississippian armed forces will dispatch a few dozen divisions to garrison TBD until such time as the natives and other non-whites can be exterminated or enslaved, and the white burnsians elevated to total dominance under the Sylvia regime, then the MS forces will pull out, leaving only the "Embassy" (base) garrison and a few other divisions to keep Sylvia in power against whatever else there is... But before this can happen, I suppose we need to topple your current inept government, thus you will be added to the list shortly.

OOC: Thank you.
Celtayoshi
19-12-2004, 16:52
[Celtayoshi State News]

"In the Past few moments the foreign ministry have issued a formal press release on the signing of the 'Celtayoshi-Hogsweat Treaty.' Under the terms of this treaty the two nations shall protect each other with military force if necessary against the oppressive World Anti-Communist League. Both nations have also further agreeded that if possible they shall defend other nations who have suffered under the World Anti-Communist League. This follows Premier Németh's scathing attack on the WACL two days ago. It is currently unclear as to what reaction this treaty will provke from the WACL.

And now the official opening of..."
Socialist Serbia
19-12-2004, 17:28
We notice that, while being very grand to look at, the WACL appears to be all mouth. You speak of toppling countries, destroying armies, shattering cities, but you dare not attack a communist nation. Perhaps the fascist regime has no backbone, and its officials worry what will become of their position and income should they lose a supposedly easy war...
The Burnsian Desert
19-12-2004, 18:10
From: The Desk of President-General Mitchell C. Craig
To: Them Damn Nazis

Well, it's been a good few weeks now and I haven't even seen a potshot taken at my forces. We might invade that 'embassy' of yours, just for kicks. Come on, you fascist bastards, you can do better than this!

http://www.lifeinlegacy.com/2002/0503/lebedaleksandr.jpg
President-General Mitchell Craig
President of The Burnsian Desert

OOC: :)
Socialist Serbia
19-12-2004, 18:15
OOC: God, but if a war was set off now, it'd be collosal. And great fun.
The Burnsian Desert
19-12-2004, 18:22
OOC: I'm trying to do that. :)
Borman Empire
19-12-2004, 18:28
...Encrypting...
...2VX encryption complete...

Official Imperial Communqiue:

To: DA
From: Chancellor Licinius

As you may or may not know our nation is a member of CAD. THis alliance is currently fighting a war against JA ans FSM. THey have called in two allies so far to assist them, The order of Reptiles and The Voltarum. As the latter is on your enemies list now may be the time for a regime overthrow. Roughly 700 ships of theirs are at the war and that should be a large force of their ships. As stated we believe now is the best time to overthrow them. Regretably we can not assist you in thsi militarily as our soldiers, planes, nad ships will be occupied fighting them near Australia. THis will keep them occupied and will make that part of their military almost non-existant.

End Transmission

OOC: Incase you are wondering it is too late to come and help with the war.
The Burnsian Desert
19-12-2004, 18:35
OOC: Borman Empire, the TBA (An alliance you say you are in) has a Nonaggression Pact with me. You're going to want to cancel that in case you want to help overthrow me. ;)
Socialist Serbia
19-12-2004, 18:39
...Encrypting...
...2VX encryption complete...

Official Imperial Communqiue:

To: DA
From: Chancellor Licinius

As you may or may not know our nation is a member of CAD. THis alliance is currently fighting a war against JA ans FSM. THey have called in two allies so far to assist them, The order of Reptiles and The Voltarum. As the latter is on your enemies list now may be the time for a regime overthrow. Roughly 700 ships of theirs are at the war and that should be a large force of their ships. As stated we believe now is the best time to overthrow them. Regretably we can not assist you in thsi militarily as our soldiers, planes, nad ships will be occupied fighting them near Australia. THis will keep them occupied and will make that part of their military almost non-existant.

End Transmission

OOC: Incase you are wondering it is too late to come and help with the war.

Socialist Serbia, and no doubt dozens of other communist and socialist nations will all move to Voltarums defence should they be attacked in any way, shape or form.
AfrikaZkorps
19-12-2004, 19:10
OOC: I would join this, but I'd seem even more racist than I am not, in my nation if you find a communists, hes obviosuly in slave labour or dead. We would love to join, but we cannot, I blame the lis tof nations and my already over extened military forces.
Armandian Cheese
19-12-2004, 19:43
OOC: Hey, how about we finally do something? Let's have a massive battle of Communist VS Capitalist.
Iron Amerika
19-12-2004, 21:19
Dutifully acknowledging our positions as proper and just nations, who feel that freedom to live, work, and purchase is one of the most essential and inherent freedoms given to all men and women, it is the poosition of the Republic of Iron Amerika that this pact will be ratified immediately by all legislative and governing bodies within our nation.

For too long have the ideals of communist, atheistic, god-hating thugs been allowed to propagate. Well no longer. With the ratification of this treaty, the allies and friends of Iron Amerika will trample roughshod over the morally evil and reprehensibally corrupt ideas of the pigs known as communists.

President George Slavik, Free Republic of Iron Amerika
The Voltarum
19-12-2004, 23:24
OOC: sorry, this is mostly to tag.
Nice try Borman, but besides the many countries coming to my aid, invading Antarctica may not be so easy :-)~
Borman Empire
20-12-2004, 03:56
OOC: Borman Empire, the TBA (An alliance you say you are in) has a Nonaggression Pact with me. You're going to want to cancel that in case you want to help overthrow me. ;)

I'm not gonna help overthrow you. We are directly and indirectly allied.

Socialist Serbia, and no doubt dozens of other communist and socialist nations will all move to Voltarums defence should they be attacked in any way, shape or form.

OOC: Hey that cool. Somehow your gov't got ahold of a communique highly encrypted AND not sent to them. THen made a response, you guys must be telepathic.

Nice try Borman, but besides the many countries coming to my aid, invading Antarctica may not be so easy :-)~

OOC: Well...uh...pigs! Joking. Don't forget I have many allies as well and my naton probably despises (sp?) you now and would call them to action. I think it woudl turn into massive world war, which would be awesome.
Pacitalia
20-12-2004, 08:16
Bump
Momanguise
20-12-2004, 10:09
ooc: I'm up for a WACL v Everyone else war. Just give me a shout.
Socialist Serbia
20-12-2004, 10:42
OOC: Hey that cool. Somehow your gov't got ahold of a communique highly encrypted AND not sent to them. THen made a response, you guys must be telepathic.


Isn't it just so funky?

OOC: OK, OK, retracted... but the message still stands.
Momanguise
20-12-2004, 11:24
ooc: I await for ic actions, then I will come to whoevers aid is required.
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 11:33
ooc: I await for ic actions, then I will come to whoevers aid is required.


Ooc-

Maybe it will be you who is needing assistance, when 100+ anti-communist powers swoop down on you.

(And yes, we have that much, we are the WACL and the affiliated nations, we could easily muster the entire WACL and the allies of WACL members, and probably get 400-500 people, but the question is, would all of them be of a good RP caliber? No, probably not, the next question is, have large numbers of people ever impressed me, and will they likely impress you? No, and probably no. And finally, why does this matter? Because we could do it, but we won't, we're an alliance for defense and we value a good RP, we're good folks who like good IC stuff and we're not going to go around pushing people around for no real reason)
Momanguise
20-12-2004, 11:41
Ooc-

Maybe it will be you who is needing assistance, when 100+ anti-communist powers swoop down on you.

(And yes, we have that much, we are the WACL and the affiliated nations, we could easily muster the entire WACL and the allies of WACL members, and probably get 400-500 people, but the question is, would all of them be of a good RP caliber? No, probably not, the next question is, have large numbers of people ever impressed me, and will they likely impress you? No, and probably no. And finally, why does this matter? Because we could do it, but we won't, we're an alliance for defense and we value a good RP, we're good folks who like good IC stuff and we're not going to go around pushing people around for no real reason)

ooc: DA, you may be good, but you are not that good. I advise that you dip your head in a bucket of ice cold water and wake up to the realities. You really think that the WACL could take NATO? Or the ANP? Or the NWO? Again, you detail that you want regime change, hardly a defensive measure no?
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 11:44
ooc: DA, you may be good, but you are not that good. I advise that you dip your head in a bucket of ice cold water and wake up to the realities. You really think that the WACL could take NATO? Or the ANP? Or the NWO? Again, you detail that you want regime change, hardly a defensive measure no?



Ooc- Hey, news for you, the NWO has strong connections to the WACL, but I won't really elaborate on this or the relationship between the WACL, NWO, RWC, and NDA... I have links and ties that nobody really knows about, and if and when it becomes necessary, I'd activate these links and ties... I officially have about 50 allies, unofficially and secretly, it's well into the triple digits.
Lavenrunz
20-12-2004, 11:47
ooc: tag
Socialist Serbia
20-12-2004, 12:16
DA, you should realise that its not just communists who you're up against. Socialist, right-wing, and even some capitalist countries are willing to fight against this alliance. I've been getting t-grams from nations that are all kinds of political affiliations, all offering protection to communist nations attacked by the WACL.
Celtayoshi
20-12-2004, 18:23
Like me, who has made his way to number 8 on the enemy list, despite not being commnuist.
Momanguise
20-12-2004, 18:31
Ooc- Hey, news for you, the NWO has strong connections to the WACL, but I won't really elaborate on this or the relationship between the WACL, NWO, RWC, and NDA... I have links and ties that nobody really knows about, and if and when it becomes necessary, I'd activate these links and ties... I officially have about 50 allies, unofficially and secretly, it's well into the triple digits.

ooc: I suspect that this is a bluff. Let you be rest assured that I do not fear your sabre rattling.
Dr_Twist
20-12-2004, 18:58
Tag.

I am watching.
Hogsweat
20-12-2004, 19:03
DA, if you even so much think as bringing this to conflict over any allied nation of mine, you shall be crushed like so many little tiny bugs. Comprende?
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-12-2004, 19:39
Ooc- Hey, news for you, the NWO has strong connections to the WACL, but I won't really elaborate on this or the relationship between the WACL, NWO, RWC, and NDA... I have links and ties that nobody really knows about, and if and when it becomes necessary, I'd activate these links and ties... I officially have about 50 allies, unofficially and secretly, it's well into the triple digits.


ooc: Interesting. Let me clear a little something up, just for everyone's sake. Decisive Action does not now, nor has it ever had 'ties' to the Non-Democratic Alliance. Sleeping with the diplomat of one of our members does not represent 'ties' to our alliance. The Council has never had any interaction with this nation that I am aware of, nor recognizes any such claims of 'ties' official, or otherwise.

Now, that being said, if by NDA you mean some other alliance, by all means, accept my apologies. Just trying to keep the record straight and disabuse any possible notions that Decisive Action could call on my NDA for anything.
Treznor
20-12-2004, 20:43
OOC: Just to clarify on the Dread Lady's statement, even if Decisive Action has ties to an NDA member, he does not have the right to invoke the alliance as a whole. The Council has no interest in blatant warmongering, and will not support any attempts to meddle in anyone's internal affairs, no matter how idealistic the cause.
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 23:06
ooc: Interesting. Let me clear a little something up, just for everyone's sake. Decisive Action does not now, nor has it ever had 'ties' to the Non-Democratic Alliance. Sleeping with the diplomat of one of our members does not represent 'ties' to our alliance. The Council has never had any interaction with this nation that I am aware of, nor recognizes any such claims of 'ties' official, or otherwise.

Now, that being said, if by NDA you mean some other alliance, by all means, accept my apologies. Just trying to keep the record straight and disabuse any possible notions that Decisive Action could call on my NDA for anything.



NDA for me = Nazi Deutschland Axis (I know a few there would likely help me if necessary)
Zackaroth
20-12-2004, 23:14
OOC: God damn me and my stupid ways. I didnt know you had a freak Anti Commuie league. If i knew that then i wouldnt have been such an ass. If i say im really sorry will you let me in?? :(
Decisive Action
20-12-2004, 23:22
Ooc- Okay, this is it, I put my foot down. People coming in here to say "You wouldn't believe how many are ready to stop this alliance!" or "Bring it on!" or something else that does nothing to the thread, stay out. This thread is for WACL members and prospective members for discussing alliance related things and alliance ideology. I ask that the rest of you respect this and keep your unwelcomed remarks out. I literally see 10+ pages of "Ohhh... we could get you!"
Zackaroth
20-12-2004, 23:25
OOC: NO really. Im not joking. I want to be apart of the WACL. Communist have caused enough trouble in my country.
P3X1299
21-12-2004, 00:40
OOC: I wish to join this alliance too. I want help avoiding the commies causing trouble in my nation. I applied (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7717678&postcount=164) here.
Hogsweat
21-12-2004, 02:00
Bah, DA, if you don't want us coming in here then you should stop your lapdogs saying "OMG LETS CRUSH US SUM COMMIS LOL" If this was a peaceful, defensive alliance, then I would not be posting in here, except for a tag and maybe a condemnation. However, you have proved yourself unable to control your lapdogs and puppies from running arounds shouting out warmongering insults. What do you think happened to my Anti Nazi Pact? None of us said anything, yet we got a load of flame..
Decisive Action
21-12-2004, 02:02
Bah, DA, if you don't want us coming in here then you should stop your lapdogs saying "OMG LETS CRUSH US SUM COMMIS LOL" If this was a peaceful, defensive alliance, then I would not be posting in here, except for a tag and maybe a condemnation. However, you have proved yourself unable to control your lapdogs and puppies from running arounds shouting out warmongering insults. What do you think happened to my Anti Nazi Pact? None of us said anything, yet we got a load of flame..


This is MY thread, by spamming it to try to get back at them, you're only making me angry.
Pacitalia
21-12-2004, 02:15
We tender our resignation from the World Anti-Communist League. The government and I agree that the new Conservative Collective satisfies the ideologies of both the Right-Wing Collective and the Anti-Communist League, but in a peaceful manner. Thank you for the wonderful times in this alliance, and we hope that our relations with our neighbour, Decisive Action, will continue in a positive manner.Vasiliou Bandanaris
Agustinate of International Relations
Hogsweat
21-12-2004, 02:15
Isn't it odd how I haven't had a -single- ooc post on this thread? All my posts have been relevant. But you ask me to leave, so I shall. Bad day to you, sir.
Decisive Action
21-12-2004, 02:20
Isn't it odd how I haven't had a -single- ooc post on this thread? All my posts have been relevant. But you ask me to leave, so I shall. Bad day to you, sir.



It wasn't directed at you, I only got upset when you started yelling and defending those who are doing thus. You are welcome to stay. I however am off to play a video game, good day to you, sir. :D
Momanguise
21-12-2004, 10:14
It wasn't directed at you, I only got upset when you started yelling and defending those who are doing thus. You are welcome to stay. I however am off to play a video game, good day to you, sir. :D

You target us for regime change and expect us to keep out of the thread? Get over yourself DA.
Greenmanbry
21-12-2004, 10:41
Fascists talking about the 'threat' of another form of government? Ha! The Dominion has made note of the fact that four of our staunchest allies are currently on the so-called 'target list' of this vile organization. Let it be known that Greenmanbry will fight to the bitter end if one of the following nations is attacked: Praetonia, Sanctaphrax, Celtayoshi, Momanguise. In the end, Fabus, you are a dead man. No matter how many 'alliances' you try to get involved in, you will die.. And so will the oppressed sods of Mississippi if they don't commit themselves to overthrowing you.. Some day... Some day...

Neils Ferdinand
Minister of Defense
Dr_Twist
21-12-2004, 10:50
The Dr_Twist Government would like to warn the WACL that Targeting of allied nations to Dr_Twist will receive the complete Backing of Dr_Twist and its Communist Alliance the Red Bloc Army.

For those who are so unaware I am a Socialist Nation myself and my Closest Allie Russian Forces is a Communist Nation, We will use all in our Ability to Defend allied Nations from this Anti Communist alliance who is bend on Communist Destruction.

General Nomad.

OCC: To all those in this Alliance, beware of who you target, because if you target and attack the wrong Nation i will come for your personally.

Dr_Twist.
Maronites of Cyprus
21-12-2004, 12:07
Althought I am Anti-Communist too, I am also anti - American and I support that
every Human has the right to be treated equaly as everyone else.

I can see that that son of the bitch decisive action has the illussion that "aryan race" is superior. Well Hitler had the same ideas and ofcourse you know where the 3rd reich ended up! It was crushed by communists and the allies.

The funny thing here is that you are a stupid American who thinks that he is superior to everybody else where as he has no HISTORY, CULTURE OR REASON TO BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY.

When you ancestors were nothing more than barbarians who lived in caves, THE ANCIENT GREEKS, THE MESSOPOTAMIANS , PERSIANS , THE PHOENICIANS, THE EGYPTIANS AND THE INCAS WERE RULING THE WORLD. THEY WERE CREATING CULTURE AND HISTORY. THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE SOCIETY YOU ARE LIVING IN TODAY.

WHILST YOUR NORDIC APES WERE MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED ACROPOLIS, AND WONDERS THAT ARE STILL THERE TODAY. GREAT PHILOSOPHERS SUCH AS ARISTOTELIS AND SOCRATES, GREAT SCRIPT PLAY WRITES SUCH AS SOFOKLIS AND GREAT ASTRONOMERS AND MATHEMATICIANS SUCH AS PLATO, PYTHAGORAS AND ARCHIMIDES LEFT THEIR MARK ON THE WORLDS CULTURAL HERITAGE.

......SO I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE NORDIC RACE, WHICH CONSISTED OF PARASITIC BARBARIANS (GOTHS, CELTS ETC.)
WHICH ATTACKED GREAT EMPIRES SUCH AS THE ROMAN AND THE BYZANTINE.

THE "CANNIBALISTIC" SAVAGES AFRICANS AS YOU CALL THEM HAVE A LONGER AND GREATER HISTORY THAN YOUR STUPID "NATION", JUST REMEMBER OF ABYSSINIA, SABBA ETC.
Independent Hitmen
21-12-2004, 12:53
President Anderson would like to issue the following statement to all those nations leaders who are part of this Pact.

"We have noticed that the nation of Celtayoshi is on your supposed enemies list, and we have noted the hostile feelings that have been expressed here with regards to those on this list. We feel that it is our duty to remind these leaders that Celtayoshi is an ally of the United States of Independent Hitmen, and will as such be defended, politically, economically and if necessarily militarily from any form of aggression."

"We also feel that you need to be reminded that Celtayoshi is the current President of the Ottoman Alliance, and as such the entire alliance has an obligation to defend that nation if he is attacked."

"Thank you for your time"
Zackaroth
21-12-2004, 13:42
Offical Response from the Archbishops of Zackaroth...

We the nation of Zackaroth and the concil after much debating and voting we have decided we would like to join the WACL. Though we do not particularlty have a good relationship with the DA we think we should put all diffrences aside. Though you have done alot of things not liked by the international community we are willing to ingore these little things if you would allow us to join. You see we have some communist problems in our country and maybe they will stop once we join this alliance to show them we will not tolerate communist in Zackaroth.
Thank you for you time.
Hogsweat
21-12-2004, 14:19
Offical Response from the Archbishops of Zackaroth...

We the nation of Zackaroth and the concil after much debating and voting we have decided we would like to join the WACL. Though we do not particularlty have a good relationship with the DA we think we should put all diffrences aside. Though you have done alot of things not liked by the international community we are willing to ingore these little things if you would allow us to join. You see we have some communist problems in our country and maybe they will stop once we join this alliance to show them we will not tolerate communist in Zackaroth.
Thank you for you time.

If Zackaroth chooses to join the WACL, it must understand it will receive economic sanctions and a trade embargo from all Condemnation Signatories.
Zackaroth
21-12-2004, 16:09
I believe we dont have any ecnomic relations Hogsweat.
Hogsweat
21-12-2004, 16:11
I believe we dont have any ecnomic relations Hogsweat.

Maybe not with us, but it's likely you may have some, even a little amount, to someone related in the Condemnation.
Moronyicka
21-12-2004, 16:23
When you ancestors were nothing more than barbarians who lived in caves, THE ANCIENT GREEKS, THE MESSOPOTAMIANS , PERSIANS , THE PHOENICIANS, THE EGYPTIANS AND THE INCAS WERE RULING THE WORLD. THEY WERE CREATING CULTURE AND HISTORY. THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE SOCIETY YOU ARE LIVING IN TODAY.

WHILST YOUR NORDIC APES WERE MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED ACROPOLIS, AND WONDERS THAT ARE STILL THERE TODAY. GREAT PHILOSOPHERS SUCH AS ARISTOTELIS AND SOCRATES, GREAT SCRIPT PLAY WRITES SUCH AS SOFOKLIS AND GREAT ASTRONOMERS AND MATHEMATICIANS SUCH AS PLATO, PYTHAGORAS AND ARCHIMIDES LEFT THEIR MARK ON THE WORLDS CULTURAL HERITAGE.

......SO I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE NORDIC RACE, WHICH CONSISTED OF PARASITIC BARBARIANS (GOTHS, CELTS ETC.)
WHICH ATTACKED GREAT EMPIRES SUCH AS THE ROMAN AND THE BYZANTINE.

THE "CANNIBALISTIC" SAVAGES AFRICANS AS YOU CALL THEM HAVE A LONGER AND GREATER HISTORY THAN YOUR STUPID "NATION", JUST REMEMBER OF ABYSSINIA, SABBA ETC.


Big words from such a small puny nation.
Hogsweat
21-12-2004, 16:32
Big words from such a small puny nation.

Says you
Attributed to Josef Dorsal, concenring Moronyicka
Moronyicka
21-12-2004, 16:39
Well, 400 and some million is a lot more then 14 million.


I might not be a very large nation, but I don't directly insult my elder nations.
Zackaroth
21-12-2004, 16:47
i do not believe i have an economic relations with any of the Condmnation and the key word was little. So it wont effect us much even if we did.
Decisive Action
21-12-2004, 17:14
Althought I am Anti-Communist too, I am also anti - American and I support that
every Human has the right to be treated equaly as everyone else.

I can see that that son of the bitch decisive action has the illussion that "aryan race" is superior. Well Hitler had the same ideas and ofcourse you know where the 3rd reich ended up! It was crushed by communists and the allies.

The funny thing here is that you are a stupid American who thinks that he is superior to everybody else where as he has no HISTORY, CULTURE OR REASON TO BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY.

When you ancestors were nothing more than barbarians who lived in caves, THE ANCIENT GREEKS, THE MESSOPOTAMIANS , PERSIANS , THE PHOENICIANS, THE EGYPTIANS AND THE INCAS WERE RULING THE WORLD. THEY WERE CREATING CULTURE AND HISTORY. THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE SOCIETY YOU ARE LIVING IN TODAY.

WHILST YOUR NORDIC APES WERE MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED ACROPOLIS, AND WONDERS THAT ARE STILL THERE TODAY. GREAT PHILOSOPHERS SUCH AS ARISTOTELIS AND SOCRATES, GREAT SCRIPT PLAY WRITES SUCH AS SOFOKLIS AND GREAT ASTRONOMERS AND MATHEMATICIANS SUCH AS PLATO, PYTHAGORAS AND ARCHIMIDES LEFT THEIR MARK ON THE WORLDS CULTURAL HERITAGE.

......SO I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE NORDIC RACE, WHICH CONSISTED OF PARASITIC BARBARIANS (GOTHS, CELTS ETC.)
WHICH ATTACKED GREAT EMPIRES SUCH AS THE ROMAN AND THE BYZANTINE.

THE "CANNIBALISTIC" SAVAGES AFRICANS AS YOU CALL THEM HAVE A LONGER AND GREATER HISTORY THAN YOUR STUPID "NATION", JUST REMEMBER OF ABYSSINIA, SABBA ETC.



I'm going to have to ask that if people are going to post in childish all caps, they just save the time and keep out of my thread... Again, if you're some lamer with 10 posts, don't even post here, this is for people who actually know DA, and DA knows them. Not some noob who sees the words "Anti-Communist" and decides to make OOC remarks as thinly coated IC garbage.


If you knew anything about my nation, we're anti-nazism, pro-americanism, and we're Anglo-Saxon, mostly all English, with a large number of French, we're not some "Nordic/Germanic/4th reich" nation modeled after the 3rd reich.

If people don't even know the basics about my nation, it tells me they're not really posting to add IC value to the thread, they're just posting to spout rubbish.


I'm off to play Deus Ex for a bit, so I don't care to ramble on about this any further.
Borman Empire
22-12-2004, 21:53
bump
Armandian Cheese
22-12-2004, 21:54
Althought I am Anti-Communist too, I am also anti - American and I support that
every Human has the right to be treated equaly as everyone else.

I can see that that son of the bitch decisive action has the illussion that "aryan race" is superior. Well Hitler had the same ideas and ofcourse you know where the 3rd reich ended up! It was crushed by communists and the allies.

The funny thing here is that you are a stupid American who thinks that he is superior to everybody else where as he has no HISTORY, CULTURE OR REASON TO BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY.

When you ancestors were nothing more than barbarians who lived in caves, THE ANCIENT GREEKS, THE MESSOPOTAMIANS , PERSIANS , THE PHOENICIANS, THE EGYPTIANS AND THE INCAS WERE RULING THE WORLD. THEY WERE CREATING CULTURE AND HISTORY. THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE SOCIETY YOU ARE LIVING IN TODAY.

WHILST YOUR NORDIC APES WERE MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE THE ANCIENT GREEKS CREATED ACROPOLIS, AND WONDERS THAT ARE STILL THERE TODAY. GREAT PHILOSOPHERS SUCH AS ARISTOTELIS AND SOCRATES, GREAT SCRIPT PLAY WRITES SUCH AS SOFOKLIS AND GREAT ASTRONOMERS AND MATHEMATICIANS SUCH AS PLATO, PYTHAGORAS AND ARCHIMIDES LEFT THEIR MARK ON THE WORLDS CULTURAL HERITAGE.

......SO I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE NORDIC RACE, WHICH CONSISTED OF PARASITIC BARBARIANS (GOTHS, CELTS ETC.)
WHICH ATTACKED GREAT EMPIRES SUCH AS THE ROMAN AND THE BYZANTINE.

THE "CANNIBALISTIC" SAVAGES AFRICANS AS YOU CALL THEM HAVE A LONGER AND GREATER HISTORY THAN YOUR STUPID "NATION", JUST REMEMBER OF ABYSSINIA, SABBA ETC.
OOC:
First of all, moron, this is called "Role Playing" for a reason. DA is a racist country, but you have no idea about his actual feelings. Second, America couldn't create much culture during the times of the Greeks...BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST! And finally, America has done far more good for the world than any of the civilizations you mentioned.
Plutocratic Maniacs
22-12-2004, 22:10
Pardon my intrusion. Plutocratic Maniacs has initiated a war on Communism! If you want to defend your nation's political system, join today!

The thread: A call to arms for fascists and capitalists by: The friends of dubya
Mora Tau
23-12-2004, 12:22
Dear friends- can the Mora Tauan Soviet Socialist Republic be added to the most hated enemies list?

I think I'm a priority because;
-I am a firmly committed Marxist
-I am a member of the MT Army
-I am a member of the Socialist Army
-I partiscipated in a number of successful anti-fascist invasions
-I was formally the UN Delegate of the Soviet Union
-I successfully infiltrated the gestapo of the fascist Reich and exposed their hypocricy to the world
-I refounded Fascist America as a memorial to socialist civilians murdered in cold blood by fascism
-I have sworn to not rest until all nazis are dead and buried.
-I am of Korean/French heritage and am thus quite opposed to white power and America.

CheersChristina Jeong-ja
Mora Tau (Scandinavian Liberal Paradiseville)
Hogsweat
23-12-2004, 13:02
OOC:
First of all, moron, this is called "Role Playing" for a reason. DA is a racist country, but you have no idea about his actual feelings. Second, America couldn't create much culture during the times of the Greeks...BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST! And finally, America has done far more good for the world than any of the civilizations you mentioned.


What, like invent Nuclear Bombs, Corrupt Democracy, and Warmongering? Depends, I don't call those things good. You can hardly say things like "Computers" were made by America, because they were made by American corporations. COUGH MICROSOFT COUGH

--------IC:

"The Friends of Dubya has already been wiped off the face of the earth by Wirrawayan Nuclear Strikes. We are soon to follow up with our own strikes. Plutocratic Maniacs, your leader is all but destroyed. Your "fascist/capitalist" alliances is in tatters. Surrender now, and you may still live."
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the RSUH (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/HogsweatCharacters/JosefDorsalEnd.jpg)
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg
The Burnsian Desert
23-12-2004, 18:09
OOC: Actually, nukes are what keep them Frenchies in check. ;)
Psov
23-12-2004, 18:14
OOC: Actually, nukes are what keep them Frenchies in check. ;)

Actually the Frenchies have nukes themselves, quite a few more than their neighbor across the Channel
Psov
23-12-2004, 18:15
Oh and i would just love to be on your lovely priority for destruction nations list, please add me
The Burnsian Desert
23-12-2004, 18:26
Actually the Frenchies have nukes themselves, quite a few more than their neighbor across the Channel

OOC: Meh. Ours are bigger and faster and more expensive. :P
Safehaven2
23-12-2004, 18:49
We would like to join this alliance and help end the communist threat.