NationStates Jolt Archive

Welcome to my Earth Comparisons thread. In this thread I will compare the various Earths and include information submitted by the founders, but first I'd like to thank the founders of the various Earths, and Independent Hitmen, for answering my questions. Thank you, guys.

Links to information for Earths that could not be squeezed into the table of information:
The REAL NS RL Nations Claims Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7541656&postcount=8) by The Phoenix Militia
Earth II - Revitalization (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7557455&postcount=10) by Layarteb
--EARTH BC-- (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7583610&postcount=13) by Blacktower; thread for this Earth here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369)
Earth Medieval Britain (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8686252&postcount=24) by Sanctaphrax; thread for this Earth here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412382)

Table of Information
Name & Link--------RL Nation Claims (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779)-----Earth IV (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357210)-----Earth V (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=356185)---------RL nation claims (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7420477)

Founder------------------Chellis-----------Whittier---The Great Sixth Reich--Holy panooly
------------------------N----------------N*--------------Reich

Limits on who---------------N*--------------N**----------Y--------------------Y***
may claim land?
*"No. Anyone can take land. The one difference is I won't add the claims of those I ignore, usually. But that isn't even set in stone."
**"I have no limits. No population or age requirements. No rp requirements."
***"Earth II etc claims are not recognized in my list but players who are on it may do as they please."
Limits on claims?-----------.N*--------------Y**--------Y***------------------Y****
Quotes will go AFTER the quotes for the map question, as this question received long answers.
Proof of claim---------------Y*---------------N**--------N***-----------------Y****
required?
*"Yes, proof is required. Seeing as most territory is already taken, the person has to show me an rp with said person, taking it. If they take it from natives, then it needs to be a decent RP. I prefer a thread to be bumped for about a month, at least a decent amount. To let others give their claims if they have them."
**"In most cases, except the one described above, I require no proof."
***"Because Earth V is generally for nations who do not have land on other Earths, I do not require any "proof of a claim" except if a country on Earth V is invaded, when if it is RPed well it will accepted."
****"Yes. If certain things don't add up, are wrong or plain made up the claim is ignored. China for example, SPARTEN and Bob-Bob both claim it and China doesn't retalliate with nuclear weapons? Such claims may be well written but are without content/story."
Removed active------------.Y*---------------N------------N--------------------Y**
claim of live nation?
*"Yes, I have. There are mitigating circumstances in those times."
**"I only removed land from an existing player (you) because it was too much and people complained a lot about it. I didn't removed all the land but I scaled it down."
Nations w/Claims?---------40----------------35?-------~50-100*--------------->20?
I didn't count for Earth V or RL nation claims because of their format. This is what the founders said.
Map?------------------------N----------------N*------------YReich--------------Y
*"the map is still a work in progress."

Answers to limits on claims:
*"No. As long as they validly take it, its theirs."
**"Limits on claims is on a case by case basis. No world empires, no continental empires at the first claim.
You can't claim land already claimed by someone else, but he can choose to split it with you or give it to you. For this, an IC thread would be required as proof.
While I allow puppet claims, main nations get priority.
If it gets to the point the EIV gets crowded, then all claims of puppet nations will be removed one by one, to make room for main nations. But not until all available land in EIV is taken up. And if you already have land, you can't expand into unclaimed land unless no one else asks for it within a 5 day period of your asking to expand your claim to it. But the expansion can only be province by province not by nation."
***" "For 500 million and above (At least a month old as well):
2 nations and one island or extremly small country.

Under 500 million BUT above 200 million:
One nation and one island or land marked *.

Some nations have special rules."

What I meant in the last sentence is that some nations are divided up and may have other restrictions (it's always noted next to the country on the list of country's).

Also, spelling counts on the claim post, and if it doesn't make sense to me, it will be rejected."
****"Your nation cannot claim nations larger than yourself in population and military."

Answers to "Why should someone choose your Earth?"
Its the real one. The other ones are based on alternate realities and the like, this one is a reference guide to who owns what in the actual NS world. At least, thats how it was made.
The only thing that seperates Earth IV from the other Earths is that (to make it more fun and interesting and challenging to rp) Earth IV land comes with assigned resources that are well researched. I haven't finished updating which nation has which resources.
Because it has a map made by Kopparbergs, great land is still available, and it is one of the most active "Earths" in RPing.
Everybody has equal chances. Some people call the "no claim when you're too small" rule discriminating I call it positive discrimination; I'm protecting the person against himself. Until now I had to tell someone about this rule only once and he understood and waited until he could claim it.
'Cause its the only one that works, and allows EVERYONE to participate.

Suggestions for improvement are welcome. There's not a lot I could think of to write without ranting/praising the various Earths, and I wanted to keep this neutral.

Please do not quote this post. You'll get a lot of ugly garbage.

OOC:
Should this not be in International Incidents?

Dont forget Phoenix Militia's claim thread. If you want to include it that is.

Don't forget Earth II. Earth II was originally made by Yerffej because all of the nations in RL NATIONS CLAIM THREAD were taken and this would give a fair chance to them. I took it over just recently as he got the DEAT. Since then though you've had unrealistic Earth III, Earth IV, Earth V, and now Earth VI. Sigh, talk about taking it too far!!!

Link in my sig!

What? You are forgetting the one which makes all other obsolete
MINE :D

Your's is nice. Your's is basically a list of all of them combined. It's like an ultimate reference. You should include next to the names of the players just what "Earth" they are in.

OOC:
Should this not be in International Incidents?Apparently a mod thought so...I don't see why, though. NS is where OOC stuff related to the game usually goes, and this is certainly not an international incident. *Shrugs* I don't really care where it goes as long as the mods don't yell at me or move it out of Sound & Fury.
Dont forget Phoenix Militia's claim thread. If you want to include it that is.I included what I could see (more accurately, what I could see late October). A link would be nice. Also, he'll have to answer the questionnaire.
Don't forget Earth II.I didn't include it because Yerffej no longer exists.
Earth II was originally made by Yerffej because all of the nations in RL NATIONS CLAIM THREAD were taken and this would give a fair chance to them.That's not true...At least it wasn't true when he made it.
I took it over just recently as he got the DEAT.Is your takeover legit? Edit: Oh, Earth II-2:Earth II::RL nation claims:RL Nation Claims ...Sort of. If you give me the information I have for the other Earths, I'll put it in sometime (formatting the post was annoying).

Limits on who
may claim land?

**"I have no limits. No population or age requirements. No rp requirements."
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Limits on claims?
*"No Limits, except for 'I claim the whole world'. Also the same land can be claimed twice or three time or 4 million times, it doesn't matter."
Proof of claim
required?
*
**"In all cases, I require no proof."
[/i]
Removed active
" No

Map?
*"the map is still a work in progress, there is a concept map(click on the NS Earth Picture"
"[/i]



Answers to "Why should someone choose your Earth?"
'Cause its the only one that works, and allows EVERYONE to participate.



Please do not quote this post. You'll get a lot of ugly garbage.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7425137#post7425137

there is a concept map(click on the NS Earth PictureNice map. :D (Really.)
[Quoting my post]<_<

I'm adding your answers...I hate formatting the information. It's why it took me so long to put up the thread (I did the survey late October).

Edit: Bah, I can't fit your information on the same line as the other, so you get a special mention at the top.

Name: Earth II - Revitalization
Link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373378
Founder: erffej (Org), Layarteb & Colodia (New)
Limits on Land Claims: Yes there is a population/land distribution matrix in effect as well as a requirement that you are in no other Earths.
Proof of Claim Required: Yes and no, it depends on the claim, how many claims you have, etc.
Removed Active Claim of Live Nation: It depends on the situation. If they are in many Earths we do limit them to a certain land size.
Nations w/ Claims: 60
Map: Yes
Why should someone choose your Earth: We are the second oldest one out there, dating back to the original Earth II and we have a long list of very active and very experienced RP'ers who contribute greatly.

Earth II - Revitalization Legitimacy in Full: I just got this telegram from the old thread owner!

The Constitutional Monarchy of Unem Llec

ello friend.

This is Yerffej (y'know, the country that orginially began 'Earth II'). Well, I saw your new (well, I guess it's not so new anymore) thread concerning Earth II, and I love what you're doing with it. I was just popping in to let you know that some RL situations kept me out of the game for awhile, and I lost Yerffej (I am in the process of getting it back). Anyway, if you ever need any help with managing the thread, drop me a TG, and I'll do what I can. It seems that you have everything under control for the moment (its easily the best version of Earth at the moment). Fine job. Keep it up.

Jeff

Shamless thread plug Alert

Dont forget about Earth BC!!! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369)

Its new, so lots of great territory is still available to be claimed.

Shamless thread plug Alert

Dont forget about Earth BC!!! (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377369)

Its new, so lots of great territory is still available to be claimed.Hmmm...Looks interesting. If you make a post here with the type of information in the first post, I'll add a link to your post (there's no more room to write the information).

Nianacio probably would've just been all of Papua and some of the surrounding islands back then...Maybe all of Indonesia. :D Nianacio actually began as an alliance between three kingdoms, but the southern kingdom is the one I use when I track Nianacio's history back before the alliance, as it's the local cradle of civilization.

--EARTH BC--

Founder?
Blacktower

Limits on who can claim land?
Anyone can take land. However if you have an NS population of 16 million, and you want to claim a massive territory, chances are this might be turned down for logistical reasons. 160,000 people living in Russia is just pointless.

Limits on Claims?
under 500 million = one country/region
over 500 mill, under 1 billion = 2 Country/Regions
over 1 billion = 3 Countries/regions
Your NS population is divided by 100 to give you your Earth BC population

Proof of Claim required?
On all claims except the origional Claims, althought RP in this is prefered as well

Removed active claim of live Nation?
None to date

Nations w/claims?
11 currently (New Earth, lots of land still being claimed fast)

Map?
Yes. but limited to the known world at the Time of the Roman Empire (ie: Mediteranian)

Why Should someone choose your earth?
Because Earth BC is vastly different from all the others. it is set in The Roman Era, so it is a pleasent change of pace to the "Modern/Future" RP's that dominate these threads. Also there is plenty of great land available, and we are growing fast.

Holy Panooly's, now IH's, does have maps. I have recently hosted them.

Earth BC has been added.
Holy Panooly's, now IH's, does have maps. I have recently hosted them.Thanks for the update!

I think Blacktower and a few others (including me) are trying to make Earth BC as real as possible for the anicent world. Its only limited to Europe at the moment and already its got a considerable player base that is active doing everything from exploring to economic trading and setting up governmental powers.


Any nation wanting to play with past tech better get in fast. This won't die out if there are plenty of players and people intrested in it.

thanks for the referal :D

Rise, thread!

Never added E2 :(.

Never added E2 :(.I ran out of room, so I gave it a special mention at the top.

Off-topic: The somewhat NSFW ads are back...<_<

Hmmm...It's been a month since the last post again. Interesting that I've twice in a row thought to raise it one month later...

Arise!

*Kicks thread*
Perhaps some of the newer Earths want to be added?

Woah, the table is ugly when you're using Nimbus Sans L instead of Verdana...O.o

*Kicks thread*

Earth Medieval Britain

Founder:
Sanctaphrax

Limits on who can claim land?
None whatsoever, whoever wants a castle can take it, provided they tell me about it beforehand and it hasn't already been claimed!

Limits on claims?
Everybody picks one castle, and one alone. No discrimination, everyone picks whatever (unclaimed) castle they want.

Proof of claim?
None needed, just pick a castle.

Removed active claim of live nation?
Nobody removed yet, nor will there be any time soon, as this is brand new.

Nations with claims?
This is brand new, and already 15 castles have been claimed.

Map?
England and Wales, but may add one soon.

Why should someone choose your earth?
Earth Medieval Britain is something completely original. Added to that, it doesn't give advantages to bigger nations, as everyone has the same population. It gives a great chance to learn about British castles, and should prove to be really interesting and exciting. We already have some quality RPers, Yafor 2 and Kanabia to name but two of them. Plus of course its active. :)

Okay, I added your Earth to the late additions section at the top of the post. If it has a thread, you might want to add a link to your post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412382

Link to the Earth, literally two days old.

OOC:
Should this not be in International Incidents?
Apparently a mod thought so...I don't see why, though. NS is where OOC stuff related to the game usually goes, and this is certainly not an international incident. *Shrugs* I don't really care where it goes as long as the mods don't yell at me or move it out of Sound & Fury.
This has nothing to do with the stuff in NS, and completely everything to do with the nonsense that takes place in II, all the Earth N's and multiple dimensions, none of which are in NS.

Everyone in NS manages to interact in the same dimension, after all, on the same NationPlanet, mainly because we don't deal with the nonsense of RL nation claims, because RL has no bearing on NS. That's why this thread belongs in II, and probably why the mod moved it, if I had to guess.

This has nothing to do with the stuff in NS, and completely everything to do with the nonsense that takes place in II, all the Earth N's and multiple dimensions, none of which are in NS.Calling it nonsense isn't very polite...;) And why're you reading the thread if it's nonsense? :\
Everyone in NS manages to interact in the same dimension, after all, on the same NationPlanet, mainly because we don't deal with the nonsense of RL nation claims, because RL has no bearing on NS.Huh? Not everyone who posts in NS is willing to RP with everyone else in NS, not everything in NS takes place on one planet, and there has been RL nation claims stuff in NS.

Calling it nonsense isn't very polite...;) And why're you reading the thread if it's nonsense? :\
Huh? Not everyone who posts in NS is willing to RP with everyone else in NS, not everything in NS takes place on one planet, and there has been RL nation claims stuff in NS.

Of course they don't all RP with each other. But they don't go off creating new dimensions just cause they can't get along.

And no, not all the stuff in NS takes place on NationEarth/Planet. But all the stuff that takes place on 'Earth' in NS, 90% of it, anyways, takes place on the same NationPlanet, which was what I meant.

As for nation claiming, very few people in NS actually accept RL nation claims. From what I can tell, the majority just assume it to be a similiar appearing territory.

Of course they don't all RP with each other. But they don't go off creating new dimensions just cause they can't get along.I've seen that in NS. :\
From what I can tell, the majority just assume it to be a similiar appearing territory.Some people who happen to post in II, including me, treat it that way...It's not a yay NS/boo II thing.