NationStates Jolt Archive


Racial and Ethnic Purity laws on books

Belem
21-11-2004, 02:16
In order to ensure the ethnic and racial purity of the Belem people our Imperial Emperor Vincent has decreed the following laws will the full support of the Inquisition and the Imperial Council:

The Holy Imperial Empire of Belem's Racial Purity codes regarding citizenship and the Belem race

1. Only Italian and German ethnicity is to be considered into Belem racial structure. In order to be considered a member of the Belem race one must be no less then 75% Italian or German or a combination of the two. However anyone who has Negro, Asian, American Indian(including everyone of Hispanic descent), arab or Indian blood shall not be included in the Belem racial structure no matter how ethnically Italian or German they are.

2. Only those who are members of the Roman Catholic faith are to be included within the Belem race this will override all claims to blood mentioned above for inclusion with the Belem race.

3. As an expansion of the ban on interracial marriage no member of the Belem race may marry an non Belemian on pain of death, banishment, or loss of race and all benefits associated with it.

4. Any marriage currently between a Belemian and a non racial shall instantly be declared null and void with all marital assets to be awarded to the Belemian. If the parties refuse to have the marriage annuled see above.

5. Only those who are considered part of the race of Belem shall be allowed to be citizens as long as they meet all preexisting requirements within Belem law. All citizens who no longer meet the racial criteria for Belem citizenship will have said citizenship revoked and will be considered a Civilian within the Imperial Empire and will recieve all privileges related to said title. Also any government title or position will be lost.

6. Anyone who renounces Belem citizenship will immediately be stripped of any claim to being racially Belemian and shall lose all claims to being a civilian and will be considered non human by Belem law.

All Laws are effective immediately and non compliance with the laws shall be dealt with swiftly and effiecently by the Holy Office of the Inquisition.

More laws are to follow soon to ensure Belem ethnic and racial purity and Superiority.
Jamaica Reborn
21-11-2004, 02:53
Official Jamaican Statement:

"The government of Jamaica encourages native Africans in the Belem held territories of South Africa and Zimbabwe to stand up and fight against their imperialist leaders. Do not accept your ranking as a 2nd class citizen, stand tall, be proud, and regain the land that your ancestors once controlled. Do not accept your fate, and do not accept your label."

-Silent Murphy, Head of The Board of Annexation
Belem
21-11-2004, 03:31
The above law only applies to the area of Belem proper because only those who originally came from or lived in Belem are eligable to be citizens. The only people within the colonies who are citizens are Belem citizens who migrated to the colonies.
The Parthians
21-11-2004, 06:13
What about Persian? How does that factor into your standards?
Belem
22-11-2004, 00:12
Persians are considered Arabs for all intents and purposes.
Falastur
22-11-2004, 00:49
The Government of Falastur would like to inquire as to what the course of action shall be over present citizens who do not fit into these guidelines for Belem citizenship.

We would like to point out that Falastur has for a long period had very liberal immigration and citizenship laws, and would happily rehome any citizens your laws of citizenship might exclude, rather than let them go through the traumatic period of exile.
Zarbia
22-11-2004, 00:54
Though in our nation religion is left up to the people to decide, we agree with these laws and congratulate our ally on their decision.

Belem will no longer be tainted by foreign filth.
Mapalgetia
22-11-2004, 01:11
Racist laws lead only to agressive, totalitarian regimes. Mapalgetia expresses its solidarity with all people being discriminated against in Belem.
Belem
22-11-2004, 01:14
The Government of Falastur would like to inquire as to what the course of action shall be over present citizens who do not fit into these guidelines for Belem citizenship.

We would like to point out that Falastur has for a long period had very liberal immigration and citizenship laws, and would happily rehome any citizens your laws of citizenship might exclude, rather than let them go through the traumatic period of exile.

There citizenship would be revoked as well as the loss of any government title or position. They would lose the privelleges associated with being a Belem citizen and would be granted all the privelleges associated with being a civilian within the Holy Imperial Empire.

And possible exile is only reserved to those who refuse to abide by there new standing.
Sino
22-11-2004, 01:26
So you're not really forcing them to be White, but forcing them to be Catholic.
Belem
22-11-2004, 01:34
So you're not really forcing them to be White, but forcing them to be Catholic.

Well to be a citizen you have to white and Italian or German and have no non white blood, but even if you do meet the racial criteria you must all be Catholic.
Falastur
22-11-2004, 01:38
We maintain that we will offer asylum to any citizens wishing to go into exile.
Sino
22-11-2004, 04:28
Well to be a citizen you have to white and Italian or German and have no non white blood, but even if you do meet the racial criteria you must all be Catholic.

How will the non-citizens be treated, as slaves? Is the majority of the Belemian population labelled under this citizen category? Are tourists (non-German or non-Italian) welcomed?
Sino
22-11-2004, 04:34
Though in our nation religion is left up to the people to decide, we agree with these laws and congratulate our ally on their decision.

Belem will no longer be tainted by foreign filth.

So your ally, Sino is full of foreign filth?
Suleymania
22-11-2004, 10:16
Persian blood is much more pure than Italian blood, and on about the same level as German blood. It seems as though because the leader of Belem is an inferior Italian, he has decided to include Italians into the mix. I encourage all Persians to emigrate from Belem and come to Suleymania.


Emperor Saman
The Merchant Guilds
22-11-2004, 10:33
We must express our pleasure at seeing Belem seeking to enact such genetic purity laws, we are most pleased with this and offer Belem our heart-felt congratulations, that Belem as a nation has joined the enlightened few.

Regards,

The Guild of External Affairs,
New York and Jersey
22-11-2004, 11:15
OOC:

For clarification from an insulted hispanic...American Indians != Hispanic. Completely off the mark there.
Ermor
22-11-2004, 11:26
(OOC: Considering that the standing theory is that all of the species known as "homo sapiens sapiens" are originally from Africa, and that the white skin color (as all other but black) are mere mutations... Everyone has "non-white blood" in them. Plus, for instance, white and black people wouldn't be able to procreate with each other if they weren't compatible, and as such, share "blood", as you call it.

Your logic is inherently flawed.

Thus, we are forced to conclude that Belem has no citizenry to speak of anymore, as even their Emperor fails to fill the requirements that they have set. Not that it's a bad thing.)
The Merchant Guilds
22-11-2004, 11:32
OOC: May I point out that it's not about the OOC logic of it, it's about playing a character and a game.
Right thinking whites
22-11-2004, 12:10
when you need help finishing you clensing, please dont hesatate to send my gov't a tg. i will be happy to send out specilists in liquidation to help


Earl Turner
leader
Ermor
22-11-2004, 13:02
OOC: May I point out that it's not about the OOC logic of it, it's about playing a character and a game.

(OOC: It is not my fault that he has counted even those he intended to be his citizens out of his list of citizenry. It is his.)
Soviet Haaregrad
22-11-2004, 13:17
OOC:

For clarification from an insulted hispanic...American Indians != Hispanic. Completely off the mark there.

OOC: Most Hispanic groups have some degree of native ancestory. ;)

IC:

The CISR condems Belem's new laws, and will continue economic sanctions, not that it will make a difference to either of us.

Belem yet again became the butt of many jokes on late night TV.

The CISR also continues accepting refugees from Belem and it's empire.
The Merchant Guilds
22-11-2004, 14:40
(OOC: It is not my fault that he has counted even those he intended to be his citizens out of his list of citizenry. It is his.)

OOC: True, but it would have been better to PM Belem your thoughts with that, rather than cause OOC clutter :) (I'll shut up with my own OOC clutter now)...
Belem
22-11-2004, 21:09
OOC:

For clarification from an insulted hispanic...American Indians != Hispanic. Completely off the mark there.

ooc: not entirely true. People from Central and South America eventually intermarried with the white spanish colonists. So technically they are partially indian and thats the stance Belem is taking.
Belem
22-11-2004, 21:12
How will the non-citizens be treated, as slaves? Is the majority of the Belemian population labelled under this citizen category? Are tourists (non-German or non-Italian) welcomed?

Civilians are treated well in the Empire. They are given most protections under law. They are allowed to open businesses and live where they please. They cant own guns however or hold military or government office.

Foreignors are allowed and are given protections under the law as a sign of goodwill to there native country(ooc:based on Belem stance for said country.)
Belem
22-11-2004, 21:16
Persian blood is much more pure than Italian blood, and on about the same level as German blood. It seems as though because the leader of Belem is an inferior Italian, he has decided to include Italians into the mix. I encourage all Persians to emigrate from Belem and come to Suleymania.


Emperor Saman

Italian blood is probably the most common blood found throughout Europe due to the greatness of the Roman Empire nearly every corner of Europe you would find many peole who somewhere through many generations would have Italian blood due to the Roman Emipire.
Yiddnland
22-11-2004, 21:32
Some of My friends ask: What about scandinavians? Slavs?
I ask: And what about the jews that have 90% Aryan blood, and perhaps like 10% semitic or something like that? (The ones that have lived in Germany, Central Europe, Western Europe and Northern Europe for almost 2000 years)
Belem
22-11-2004, 22:37
Some of My friends ask: What about scandinavians? Slavs?
I ask: And what about the jews that have 90% Aryan blood, and perhaps like 10% semitic or something like that? (The ones that have lived in Germany, Central Europe, Western Europe and Northern Europe for almost 2000 years)

Scandinavians and Slavs are not included like how the French, British, or Spanish are not included in that they do not have Italian or German blood.

And as for the Jews if they have the required blood and choose to switch to Catholicism then they will be granted Citizenship otherwise they will still retain there Civilian status.
Belem
23-11-2004, 05:23
Additions to the law:

7. Anyone who is has been interned in an insane asylum for homosexuality or any other mental disease and has been deemed uncurable will have any racial status revoked immediately and will also be subject to Belem anti-homosexual laws.

8. Any person who has been been sterilized by being considered unfit to reproduce will immediately have any claims to race revoked and shall henceforth be considered a Non Human to the eyes of the law.
Suleymania
23-11-2004, 05:44
Haha, if you had read up on history, then you would have known that the Italians and the Romans were two different ethnicities, and that the Romans looked down on the group that called themselves the Italians. Whereas the Persian Empire was the first great empire, and no matter how many times it was conquered, the Persians retained their culture and eventually drove the conquerors out. Persians and Germans are both a part of the Aryan race, and therefore, in a sense brothers.

Emperor Saman
Belem
23-11-2004, 06:00
Italians is the shared culture of the Italian Penisula(which included the Romans) and have there own ethnic features that are primarily common throughout all of the penisula except for certain northern provinces that had more interaction with german/austrian presences and some elements of the french. However Italians are further divided through social stigmas between North and South or going further back between "True Romans" and members of the latin league. However by the time of the unifing of the Italian penisula all people on the penisula were considered Italians and Romans and the bulk of the army well into the Empire years was primarily Italian.

And the persians have lost there culture and religion to the arabs and are one of the same with there ilk.
Suleymania
24-11-2004, 02:08
If anything, the Arabs added elements of our culture to theirs. Persian culture is one of the most unique cultures on the face of the Earth. The only thing that kept the Persians from rising up again to their former glory was a series of weak rulers. Also, Islam compliments Persian culture gloriously, unless you have some idiot beat his wife half to death because she isn't covered from head-to-toe. So yes, there are some flaws with Persian life at this point, but nothing that can't be fixed.

Emperor Saman
Suleymania
24-11-2004, 02:45
Also, what IQ is considered impure?


Emperor Saman
The Parthians
24-11-2004, 06:42
If anything, the Arabs added elements of our culture to theirs. Persian culture is one of the most unique cultures on the face of the Earth. The only thing that kept the Persians from rising up again to their former glory was a series of weak rulers. Also, Islam compliments Persian culture gloriously, unless you have some idiot beat his wife half to death because she isn't covered from head-to-toe. So yes, there are some flaws with Persian life at this point, but nothing that can't be fixed.

Emperor Saman

I think a bit of Zoroastrianism should fix that.

-Shah Khosru III of Parthia
Callisdrun
24-11-2004, 07:22
Additions to the law:


8. Any person who has been been sterilized by being considered unfit to reproduce will immediately have any claims to race revoked and shall henceforth be considered a Non Human to the eyes of the law.

What about a soldiers who got their parts blown off in a war? It happens.
Belem
25-11-2004, 00:03
Also, what IQ is considered impure?


Emperor Saman

OOC: its the American standard which I think is between 60-80 IQ. Got to check on that though.
Belem
25-11-2004, 00:06
What about a soldiers who got their parts blown off in a war? It happens.

It only includes those who were sterilized by medical institutions have racial status revoked.
Psov
25-11-2004, 00:20
There is no possible excuse for such blatant and brutal legislation. The limitation of human rights to certain nationalities and races shows only a sign of weakness, and is not in any way a sign of prosperity or growth. The Republic strongly condemns this blatant violation of human rights and promises that there will be reprecussions should their be any further encroachment on the liberties of certain peoples in Belem. By putting this legislation into law you are pushing your nation backwards and promoting your own decline and ruin. The Republic strongly suggests that Belem consider more mild steps in fufilling their goals, as opposed to taking such extremes. We also suggest that you try to find an inch of morality in your souls and realise that all human beings have equal value, and that your nations people should be valued above the rest, unexclusively.

Psovian Minister of Politics
Minister Illyionich Vupzuniov
Yiddnland
25-11-2004, 00:31
The 'Persian' guy tries to equate persians with germans? Please. If any Aryan nation miscegenated first, and terribly, it was the Aryans of Persia and India, which no longer exist. Their race was incredibly contaminated by arabs and indians since the first Persian Empire, and since the times of 'Castes' in India. If Italians are gonna be weighed with Persians on Racial (Aryan) purity, obviously the Italians are closer to the germans. And much more the northern Italians. Besides, the Average IQ of Persia b.k.a. Iran is somewhere close to the arabs, or in the same range (somewhere around 82). Italy's IQ is the same, or almost the same as Germany (Both of these are somewhere between 102 and 105).

Want racial aryan purity? Go to Holand, go to Denmark, go to Scandinavia's germanic inhabitants. Those are the aryanest countries.

Want highest IQs? Go to the descendants of european (aryan perhaps) jews (but not to the arabic or mediterranean jews), their averages meassure up to 120 (that must be one of the reasons to their academic success, like Einstein, Freud, and another almost 200 nobel prices, plus the artists and big shots of Wall Street). Also in Japan and Hong Kong, 110 (And they're many, no wonder their countries are so clean and clear, and full of tech, like Israel, which unfortunately is watching aryan jews miscegenate with arab jews, or worse, pure arabs/persians and doing nothing at all).
Belem
25-11-2004, 00:32
9. Anyone who has had the government distinction of being designated as a Non Human, including but not limited to all convicted felons and former slaves under no circumstances shall be given Belem racial status and if any such racial status existed before conviction or slavery it shall immediately be revoked.
Yiddnland
25-11-2004, 00:41
OOC: its the American standard which I think is between 60-80 IQ. Got to check on that though.

The avg. american IQ is 99. The avg. white american IQ. is 102. The avg. american jew (descending from european jews) is between 115 and 120 (Arabic and mediterranean jews are 17 points behind the european/aryan/russian jews). Asian americans IQ is between 107 and 110.
African american IQ is an avg. of 87 (A standard deviation behind the avg. whites). Hispanics are not very high either. So the avg. american IQ is pretty relative, you must go to ethnic groups, not to generalize all americans in one single miscegenated society. The fact that there are so many hispanics and blacks, and some arabs and Indians, makes the IQ go down to 99, while the european jews, the whites, and the asians level up the scale. But black people, hispanics and other not so intelligent groups have in average twice the children that the smart groups have. Now do the math, and guess what will happen if Eugenics don't come in right now.
Yiddnland
25-11-2004, 00:45
OOC: I meant the average american standard to be considered mentally unfit.
Sorry. But I guess that gives you some interesting info. to help you on your debate, right?
Belem
25-11-2004, 00:45
OOC: I meant the average american standard to be considered mentally unfit.
Belem
25-11-2004, 00:50
OOC: yep. thanks for the info.
Yiddnland
25-11-2004, 00:50
OOC: yep. thanks for the info.

Non ho nessun problema. Kein Problem.
Callisdrun
25-11-2004, 04:16
It only includes those who were sterilized by medical institutions have racial status revoked.

It does not include those who have lost their parts in warfare, law enforcement, firefighting, industrial mishaps, etc.?
Belem
25-11-2004, 04:53
It does not include those who have lost their parts in warfare, law enforcement, firefighting, industrial mishaps, etc.?

Only case in law enforcement where they would lose racial rights would be if the person was a convicted felon and sterilized by the state.
Suleymania
25-11-2004, 09:05
Yiddnland is using Jewish propaganda. I suggest you go to your local synagogue and ask for forgiveness, for you have just insulted the mightiest ethnicity on Earth. An average IQ of 82 is inconcievable and it is stupid to think that because some Persians have been contaminated with Arab blood that it would make the IQ go that low. Let me remind you that the Arabs set the basis of Arithmetic and invented the dome. The lowest racial IQ is about 90, and that belongs to the Negroid race, which makes up for it in their athleticism. The Jews however are not notable for inventing anything, they are only noted for their ability to lie, cheat, and steal. As you have done in your spreading lies about my great race. If you had any pride you wouldn't be Yiddish, would you? Here is my list of the racial hierarchy

Persians and Germans
Anglos
Arabs
Slavs
Japs
Franks
Jews
Chinese
Hispanic
Negroes


I left out alot of ethnicities, but those were the main ones I wanted to get to.

Emperor Saman
Suleymania
25-11-2004, 09:19
Also I must add that if it were not for Cyrus the Great, you would not be here right now spitting your slanderous filth about Persians. Have you ever even been to Iran? I don't think you have, because everyone is light-skinned, so think twice before you say that we degenerated into an inferior Arab race. Arabs and Jews are looked down upon by the common man. You're trying to compare the Jews with the rest of the world? PFF! Don't make me laugh. The Jews are too unloyal to have a stable nation run by Jews. I have 2 European Jewish friends and I am smarter than both of them. I have an IQ of 142, what do you have to say about that? You just came up with the dumbest stuff. Aryans, Jews, and Asians. It is obvious that because you yourself are Jewish you included Jews into the mix. Jews will eventually be exterminated along with the other unfit races,(actually, I am not an anti-semite, there are many things I respect about Jews, though they have many flaws. I am just saying that if you keep your race pure, it will only get stronger) and Persians and Aryans will interbreed. Yes, one day Persians will walk along the Rhineland on their way to the mosque, I can see it now.
Yiddnland
25-11-2004, 23:22
Yiddnland is using Jewish propaganda

If you want to call facts propaganda.

I suggest you go to your local synagogue and ask for forgiveness, for you have just insulted the mightiest ethnicity on Earth. :)


An average IQ of 82 is inconcievable and it is stupid to think that because some Persians have been contaminated with Arab blood that it would make the IQ go that low.

inconceivable*, you mean?

The fact that you don't want to admit it doesn't make it any less true.

Let me remind you that the Arabs set the basis of Arithmetic and invented the dome.

So? What happened with them then? Why are they “not so smart” today? Probably saying that Arabs invented the basis of Arithmetic is like saying that Englishmen invented Calculus, and that Frenchmen invented probability. Besides, if they had Arithmetic, how come they didn’t advance so much in geometry, theory of numbers, probability, calculus, etc. as Europe when they [the Arabs] were the ones that had the ‘most useful’ tools called ‘Arabic’ numbers (which were in fact, taken from the Indians). The past is behind them, not with them. Why are you defending them though? I thought you didn't care, since you think they didn't bastardize your blood anyway.


The lowest racial IQ is about 90, and that belongs to the Negroid race, which makes up for it in their athleticism.

You mean Athletism? And actually, if you go to Africa, you can find IQ averages of 57.

The Jews however are not notable for inventing anything, they are only noted for their ability to lie, cheat, and steal.

Ok, the Bible, and Islam come from Jewish stories. I just thought about a joke about Mohammed, but I will reserve it to myself since I'm not going to insult your religion. If you want to know what Jews invented, look at most of the Nobel prices. Around 20% are Jewish. Don't make me start, I'm too lazy to search for that right now, unless of course you request the info. But you're probably capable of searching it yourself. Yeah, lie, cheat and steal. Middle eastern cultures are known also by that, so you're not exempt from that. “What happens if [insert any Arabic/Persian country here] outlaws burglary? Their economy breaks down.”


As you have done in your spreading lies about my great race. If you had any pride you wouldn't be Yiddish, would you?

Well, of course I'm proud of Yiddish, it's a language that has been alive for 1500 years until your "cousins" of Germany killed my people and most of Yiddish with them.


Here is my list of the racial hierarchy
Persians and Germans
Anglos
Arabs
Slavs
Japs
Franks
Jews
Chinese
Hispanic
Negroes


I left out alot of ethnicities, but those were the main ones I wanted to get to.

Emperor Saman

Good for you. You made a list of “alot” of things, and not of a lot of things. LOL. I don't care. Again I ask, why is it that, the European Jews, the Yiddish speaking Jews, the ones with European heritage are the ethnicity that has won much more Nobel Prices than any other ethnicity (per capita)? Go to any library, you'll see a lot of Jewish names. I can't find Persians. Sorry.

Also I must add that if it were not for Cyrus the Great, you would not be here right now spitting your slanderous filth about Persians.

Really? What did he do for me? LOL. What makes you think all Jews really have a Semitic heritage? Obviously, the descendants of European Jews are much more Aryan than many ethnicities, like Persians for example. But “Aryanness” or “Semiticness” or whatever you want doesn't really matter. Look at the facts here. Out of the four of the most important, creative, innovative, etc. (Darwin, Freud, Einstein, Marx) figures in the 20th century, 3 were Jews. And I can give you any example about other things like art, sports, and especially science where Jews have excelled.

Have you ever even been to Iran? I don't think you have, because everyone is light-skinned, so think twice before you say that we degenerated into an inferior Arab race.
I don't care, really. That isn't important to me. Color? "PFF!"

Arabs and Jews are looked down upon by the common man. Ok, COMMON man.

You're trying to compare the Jews with the rest of the world? PFF! Don't make me laugh.
Well, no, I’m not trying to compare Jews with the rest of the world. Obviously, the rest of the world tries to compete.

The Jews are too unloyal to have a stable nation run by Jews.

Yeah, Israel, the producer of 80% of future revolutionizing biotech is unstable. Hah.


I have 2 European Jewish friends and I am smarter than both of them. I have an IQ of 142, what do you have to say about that? You just came up with the dumbest stuff.

Well, what I have to say is, that even that I’m more than one standard deviation above you in IQ (And I will reserve the right to tell you my exact IQ, because that's something that nobody should say, specially smart people like you, so try avoiding that with other people next time), that doesn't mean much. And the fact that you're almost three standard deviations from the standard Chinese, and that you're an EXCEPTION, that is, probably four or five standard deviations from Iran's people. Those 2 Jews are probably average Jews. Big deal. Most Jews I know are successful in one or many areas, and specially, anywhere you find a Jew in college, you find an excellent Academic. Jews always get recognition for being the best students, and or researchers. No wonder there are so many Jewish Nobel prices and the best doctors are often Jews. And remember, Jews are a minority, so they (are supposed to) have a lot of competition. The question is, how worthy is it? Perhaps as worthy as to compete in the same numbers, and not in huge numbers against few.

Aryans, Jews, and Asians. It is obvious that because you yourself are Jewish you included Jews into the mix. Jews will eventually be exterminated along with the other unfit races,(actually, I am not an anti-Semite, there are many things I respect about Jews, though they have many flaws. I am just saying that if you keep your race pure, it will only get stronger) and Persians and Aryans will interbreed.

Yeah, whatever you say.

Yes, one day Persians will walk along the Rhineland on their way to the mosque, I can see it now.

My, my… I can see that in all Europe. Europe, get ready to have your racial heritage and IQ drastically changed.

I didn't intend to be rude by mentioning the facts, sorry if I offended anyone.
Psov
25-11-2004, 23:33
OOC: You all make me sick, bickering over racial superiority, there is no "superior race," since there are hundreds and thousands of brilliant exceptions to the failure of a people to fufill greatness, or whatever you measure a certain peoples sucess by. How about you stop bickering about who's better statistically (since statistics suck anyway), stop throwing your IQ's at eachother and realize that every race has given birth to an exceptional human being, and that all races deserve to live and prosper on earth together without being subjected to statistical stereotyping.
Yiddnland
26-11-2004, 01:07
OOC: You all make me sick, bickering over racial superiority, there is no "superior race," since there are hundreds and thousands of brilliant exceptions to the failure of a people to fufill greatness, or whatever you measure a certain peoples sucess by. How about you stop bickering about who's better statistically (since statistics suck anyway), stop throwing your IQ's at eachother and realize that every race has given birth to an exceptional human being, and that all races deserve to live and prosper on earth together without being subjected to statistical stereotyping.

Well of course there is no superior race (Just to clarify, I never said there is). "Superior" is a very relative term. And all races can become smarter with eugenics (thought up first by Francis Galton), and better in many ways. I think we should encourage eugenics for every race to ensure the long term advancement of humanity.
Suleymania
26-11-2004, 03:44
I think that you are a pretty intelligent person, but you seem to get off by insulting Persians and other non-jews in the middle east. And also, let me clarify that I am not a Muslim, I am pretty much an atheist. Cyrus the Great did not only save the semites, he saved the whole of Judaism. One example of non-mental superiority among the Persians is Ali Rezazadeh(the weightlifter that snatched the gold at this year's Olympics).

Freud: Revolutionary thinker, but he thought that there was something wrong with everyone.
Einstein: Idiot-savante.
Marx: Revolutionary theory, we'll call him a genius.
Darwin: Him too.

Individually, Jews are pretty high on the list, but when you have millions of individualists together, you don't really have a stable and unified country. Which is why your race is flawed. I actually have 1/16th Jew blood.
Yiddnland
26-11-2004, 15:56
I think that you are a pretty intelligent person, but you seem to get off by insulting Persians and other non-jews in the middle east. And also, let me clarify that I am not a Muslim, I am pretty much an atheist. Cyrus the Great did not only save the semites, he saved the whole of Judaism. One example of non-mental superiority among the Persians is Ali Rezazadeh(the weightlifter that snatched the gold at this year's Olympics).

Freud: Revolutionary thinker, but he thought that there was something wrong with everyone.
Einstein: Idiot-savante.
Marx: Revolutionary theory, we'll call him a genius.
Darwin: Him too.

Individually, Jews are pretty high on the list, but when you have millions of individualists together, you don't really have a stable and unified country. Which is why your race is flawed. I actually have 1/16th Jew blood.

I'm glad we're reaching some common terrain here. I actually would call Einstein a Genius, like most would classify him, but not Marx, he was just a Revolutionary thinker, to me. You see, you even have Jewish heritage. Nobody is racially 100% pure. I'm 1/8th non-Jewish. And I agree that Israel, which is not my country, is not unified. But there's no reason to be, since European Jews are not the same Race as Arabic Jews, and there's more difference between these two in intellect than the difference between African Americans and European Americans. So that's why I think that European Jews don't have much to do in the Middle East anyway, and that they should have stayed in German territories, separated from Germany to give the European Jews (which were the ones that had the most harm done after ww2) a country where they really lived and not the invention of Zionism that Israel is a real 'homeland'. Besides, the ones to pay would have been only the Germans, and not the not so innocent today Palestinians or Arabs or whatever. If that happened, there wouldn't be so many problems in the Middle East today. Sorry for any earlier misunderstandings.
Knigi
26-11-2004, 16:08
The Republic of Knigi, a multi-cultural nation, will open her arms to any fleeing the regime in Belen due to racial and ethnic laws. Our citizens are only forbidden to marry minors and those who are currently married. We also recognize Freemate relationships, which do not carry the bonds of permanence.
Jeruselem
26-11-2004, 16:37
OOC

Can we please keep the OOC stuff about racial purity to minimum and not turn this into a General thread please?
Psov
26-11-2004, 16:42
As we were saying


There is no possible excuse for such blatant and brutal legislation. The limitation of human rights to certain nationalities and races shows only a sign of weakness, and is not in any way a sign of prosperity or growth. The Republic strongly condemns this blatant violation of human rights and promises that there will be reprecussions should their be any further encroachment on the liberties of certain peoples in Belem. By putting this legislation into law you are pushing your nation backwards and promoting your own decline and ruin. The Republic strongly suggests that Belem consider more mild steps in fufilling their goals, as opposed to taking such extremes. We also suggest that you try to find an inch of morality in your souls and realise that all human beings have equal value, and that your nations people should be valued above the rest, unexclusively.

Psovian Minister of Politics
Minister Illyionich Vupzuniov