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OOC: New RP concept?

British Hannover
20-11-2004, 02:56
The year is 2014, one that I picked randomly out of a hat because it lines up exactly one century after the First World War. However, while technology is generally very advanced, socially, the world is oddly a bit of a throwback. There are still sizeable colonial empires (although they're mostly by now at least nominally self-governning) and there was no social revolution in the 60's, but a gradual movement in the field of women's and civil rights. Some areas of lives remain basically untouched ... Europe, for example, is still growing (although slowly) by natural population increase and the vast majority of people in developed countries are religious.

The Third World is a markedly different place as well, much of it still officially colonized by First World powers. However, in terms of living standards, they are generally higher than our world, starvation being relatively uncommon rather than the rule. The more developed Latin American countries (Brazil and Argentina) are industrial powerhouses and possess standards of living not far below Greece or Spain in our world.

The world is nominally divided up into three massive power blocs, although increasingly, there is a bipolar division between those states that have embraced Marxism and those who have not. There are some neutral countries of course, but the majority of the world is building up into two gargantuan camps. More and more, it seems likely that the result will be decided by warfare.

Why is this world so different from ours? The answer is, among other things, is that by a series of increasingly strained developments, there has NEVER been a proper World War. The largest conflict in global history were the two Eastern Wars that were fought when the Habsburg Empire collapsed in 1921.

In the second of these wars, a colossal mistake was made on the part of the British and Americans. As the German Empire and its allies, Italy and Hungary were approaching Moscow, the British forced a compromise peace upon Europe, fearing increasing German influence there. The result was an enormous missed opportunity for the Allies. Soviet Russia survived to spread its message to most of the Eurasian continent.

Meanwhile, the Germans were horribly bitter towards the British in particular and sent extensive aid to the Indian independence movement as a spiteful vengeance for interfering in the Second Eastern War. A grateful India would become a major ally and a vast market for German manufactures in the future. Germany, India, Italy and Hungary (a much larger entity than IRL) would form the basis of the Central Powers alliance.

Meanwhile, in the Forties, the Americans fought a brief war with Japan in the Pacific. However, the rising spectre of Russian power led the two warring powers to work out a compromise peace. With surprising ease, Japan, the FAS (Federation of American States) and Britain became allies. They would become the foundations of the Allies.

The message of revolutionary socialism spread throughout Eurasia, touching China, the Middle East and much of Eastern Europe. In a surprise development, a similar movement would sweep through France in the Seventies. The Comintern powers held sway over the greater part of the Eurasian continent and quickly established themselves as an enormously powerful entity.

In 2007, a German scientist, Manfred von Waldersee would make a discovery that would turn the scientific world upside down. ESP was a real phenomenon, and about one out of every thousand people possessed a sensitivity to psionic phenomena, which was apparently linked somehow to electromagnetism. The vast majority of said psionic-sensitives only had very slight abilities but it was not long before powerful telepaths, technopaths, telekinetics, pyrokinetics and clairvoyants began to be identified.

Meanwhile, in the early part of the 2010's, the Allies and Central Powers became increasingly friendly. The Soviet Union and its allies were also facing the realization that they were beginning to fall behind technologically. Some of the Comintern powers began economic liberalization programmes, some with more success than others. However, the aggressive new leader of the Soviet Union, Vladimir Grozny, believed that the only way for the Soviet Union to flourish was to win a short war against the Allies.

The stage was being set for a conflaguration, the likes of which the world has never beheld ...
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 03:14
This RP will be based on applications ... so, yeah, don't bother claiming anything here. This thread is just to get the idea out there. It's based on an IRC RP of mine, although that one was character-based ... this one is nation-based.

Just a few general notes about Ragnarok: 2014, as the IRC sim is called. It's what you'd call 'mostly serious'. There's always been a bit of a fun campy element to it, particularly in technology. (not to mention the plot has vague echoes of Red Alert 2, one of the campiest strategy games I've ever played)

The key to the technology has been two things really, one, that while sometimes the concept is a bit out there sometimes, its dealt with seriously. In other words, there's no such thing as a perfect weapon. Godmoding is just as unacceptable here than anywhere else on NS. Secondly, it's that the technology is supposed to match the qualities of your nation, considered or stereotypical.

The reason that I moved away a bit from '100% serious' is because, A.) It can get a bit dry somtimes and B.) It makes for more differences in the style of warfare that each side practices.
Camel Eaters
20-11-2004, 03:40
Where do I go to say what nation I control in this RP?
The Island of Rose
20-11-2004, 03:47
((OOC: You just described NationStates :D. I tag and think now!))
British Hannover
20-11-2004, 03:54
No where QUITE yet. An applications thread will be coming soon, I promise ye. Before that, I'll probably put on a world map of vanilla Raggy (ie, the IRC version, although it will probably end up different for this one) and a few other details.

But thank you for your interest.
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 04:15
And the attachment uploader is being a jackass ... *grrs*
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 04:30
Of course, the reality of the NS Raggy will look different than the IRC version, I'm sure. But this is how the politics of it broadly breaks down.

Allies:
Federation of American States (Canada and the US)
American Protectorate States (Cuba, Philippines, Liberia, Panama)

Japan
Japanese Imperial Territores (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos)

United Kingdom (Great Britain and Ireland)
British Empire (Egypt-Sudan, Palestine, Tanzania, Uganda, Nigeria, Gambia, Guyana, Malaysia, Singapore, Newfoundland and Labrador, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Rhodesia and Burma)
British Dominions (Australia, New Zealand, South Africa)

Kingdom of the United Netherlands (Belgium and Netherlands)
Republic of Korea (North and South Korea)
Federal Republic of Indonesia

Central Powers:
German Empire: (Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, much of Poland, Alsace-Lorraine)
German Imperial Territories: (Democratic Republic of the Congo, Thailand, Namibia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia and Papua New Guinea)

India: (India, plus Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh)

Italy: (Italy, plus Corsica, Slovenia, Albania and the coastal portions of Croatia)
Italian Imperial Territories: Libya, Crete, Aegean Islands

Hungary: (Hungary, plus Slovakia, part of Croatia, northern Serbia, about half of Romania and a tiny slice of the Ukraine)

Turkey: (IRL modern Turkey)

Argentina

Comintern:

Soviet Union (IRL Soviet Union plus Finland)

China (IRL China plus Mongolia)

Pakistan

United Socialist Arab Republic (Arabian states, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, most of Jordan)

United East Balkan Republic: (much of Romania, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Bulgaria, Greece (less Crete and much of the Aegean Islands)

France
French Empire (most of North and West Africa, plus Madagascar and French Guiana)

Spain


Neutrals:
All Others (unless I missed someone)
Ninurta
20-11-2004, 05:05
This definitely gets a tag from me for now. I'd be very interested in participating eventually - and before you write me off, my original nation was quite a bit older than this one, but I've abandoned it in favor of one that isn't facing nuclear domination from several other countries and doesn't in any way support my... sorry, I'm rambling.
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 05:26
Age is not an issue, really. RP ability is, of course, but the average quality here is pretty high I've found.
British Hannover
20-11-2004, 19:09
Alright ... later today (or, if my family are asses about the computer, tomorrow) I will put up an official claims/applications thread. Just a few notes.

I'd like to have some means of real-time communication with everyone who's playing a major power, especially superpowers like the FAS and China, etc. *smirk* With great power comes great responsibility ... but more seriously, it's that I just want to keep a dialogue going. There's not a real set-in-stone plotline, but there is an overarching theme of sorts. That and it just helps planning BIG time.

As for the applications, I'll put up a blank format sheet when I put up the thread. Applying for a different nation than on that list is okay, but is subject to approval (like all applications) to me. Keep the populations, etc, fairly realistic. For countries that have IRL borders, you could mostly get away with adjusting the military budget upwards somewhat (about 15-20% on average) to reflect the cold war situation and adjusting the population upwards. (Less for developed countries, more for less developed countries, but nothing extraordinarily radical)

Any questions ... just post here or send me a telegram.
Presgreif
20-11-2004, 19:13
I would very much like to participate in this, and reserve The German Empire for myself, if I may. You can catch me on AIM by the name of Dagome Iudex.
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 19:23
Probably should have said this earlier (especially given the INCREDIBLE quantity of Germany-esque nations on NS) but I'm planning on playing the German Empire. I've spent hours for the earlier IRC RP making a rather detailed description of German politics, military, society, etc. Although technically, the claims page isn't up yet ...

I'll be doing that later today.
Presgreif
20-11-2004, 19:37
Well then....if the Soviet Union isn't taken, may I play as them?
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 19:41
Seeing as I'm thirty seconds from making that claim page ... the answer is yes. I will respect your claim to Soviet Union-hood. And will add your name to AIM. I am Deutsche Devil.
Camel Eaters
20-11-2004, 19:46
I've been talking with British Hannover and he said that I might be able to play as Great Britain please sir I'd like some overseas colonies.
Kriegorgrad
20-11-2004, 19:52
OOC: Looks amazing! I can't wait for this to start, I hope to be England or perhaps China, that is, of course if I'm allowed.
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 19:53
Ragnarok 2014 Applications/Claims Thread- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7517807#post7517807

Camel Eaters- You are entitled to all the colonies of Vanilla Raggy. Your claim for UK is recognized. However, the Dominions are really independent nations, so other people can claim them.
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 19:55
Kriegograd ... the UK is taken, but if you hurry on to the next thread, you can claim China!
Nordrreich
20-11-2004, 22:54
*bump*