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I tried to rp my nation going near-future tech a while ago, but neither of the posts I wrote got many comments. I consider myself a near-future nation, with moderate spaceflight capabilities, but no inter-planetary stuff as of yet. Just wanted to be sure this wasn't godmodding, so that's what this thread is for. Let me know, thanks.

Well...it depends. There are a number of supermodern nations, which is what you sound like. Future tech generally (but not always) means that you have FTL capability, and various things that generally suspend the laws of physics.

Nice i hope you come in to space we would love to see you there mabey join the UFP ? :)

Future tech: (the act of having) Being capable of interstellar travel, have large spacey armada, the power to slag entire planets, multiple colonies, and are despised by pretty much everyone..who think that you are cheap and unfair and ruin rp. Yep. Future tech.

I love me.

I see myself as having moderate spaceflight (like, within the solar system), an orbital colony, and a couple of military cruisers. My population isn't big enough to support anything more. So would I be considered Near-Future Tech or Post Modern Tech or what?

Future tech: (the act of having) Being capable of interstellar travel, have large spacey armada, the power to slag entire planets, multiple colonies, and are despised by pretty much everyone..who think that you are cheap and unfair and ruin rp. Yep. Future tech.

I love me.

Interstellar travel? Check.
Large spacy armada? Nope.
Power to slag entire planets? Nope.
Multiple Colonies: How is this different than a MT nation have multiple colonies? If you don't hate MT nations having it, you're a fragging hypocrite deserving of scorn and flames. Also, I only have one, though I am about to work on a second.
Despised by pretty much everyone: Not true. Only by those who can't be bothered to realize we have the same problems with godmodders the rest of you have.

Before you bother to rant on something you obviously can't be bothered to know about, try to make sure there isn't someone here who will call you on it. Not all FT nations are the same.

Also, you'll find one of the challenges of FT is making it feasible, unlike the uncreative MT where all you have to do is take the same existing technology and make a few tweaks to it. And, admittedly, a lot of FT nations are the same way. That is why I designed my own FTL drive.

I see myself as having moderate spaceflight (like, within the solar system), an orbital colony, and a couple of military cruisers. My population isn't big enough to support anything more. So would I be considered Near-Future Tech or Post Modern Tech or what?

Once again, it depends. Can your cruisers accelerate and deccelerate at a few thousand gravities, so that they can take on other nations' Star Destroyers? Do you use powerful torbolasers or 'realistic' railguns? Do you have shields, or do your craft rely on hull strength? If you're going to stick with realism, then you'll be easy pickings for nearly every militant future-tech nation.

Example:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372939&page=2&pp=15
I could probably take on Nano soft's entire stellar fleet with a single task force.

Once again, it depends. Can your cruisers accelerate and deccelerate at a few thousand gravities, so that they can take on other nations' Star Destroyers? Do you use powerful torbolasers or 'realistic' railguns? Do you have shields, or do your craft rely on hull strength? If you're going to stick with realism, then you'll be easy pickings for nearly every militant future-tech nation.

Example:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372939&page=2&pp=15
I could probably take on Nano soft's entire stellar fleet with a single task force.

What do you mean by "a few thousand gravities?" As for weaponry, I've tried to figure out what would be realistic for a fledging star fleet to have. I have missiles, artillery (naval calliber) and directed EMP pulses. But I see what you're saying; I'm screwed if I fight a Star Destroyer. I'm working on reliable shielding, but so far I've got nothing; mainly hull strength. I'm sort of thinking along the lines of the Terrans from Starcraft, only without lasers and FTL travel (working on that too :D ). I intend to keep quiet for a few NS years while I build up my abilities.

What do you mean by "a few thousand gravities?" As for weaponry, I've tried to figure out what would be realistic for a fledging star fleet to have. I have missiles, artillery (naval calliber) and directed EMP pulses. But I see what you're saying; I'm screwed if I fight a Star Destroyer. I'm working on reliable shielding, but so far I've got nothing; mainly hull strength. I'm sort of thinking along the lines of the Terrans from Starcraft, only without lasers and FTL travel (working on that too :D ). I intend to keep quiet for a few NS years while I build up my abilities.


I can give you some partical weps and laser weps and seme partical lasers ... old weps from me back in the ol 2100's ohh and rail cannons to

If you want FT, buy it from one of the stores and then develop your own. I suggest Siesatia for ships, though Klonor is also a good start.

*Activates Google*
1 000 g = 9.80665 (km / s) / s

Meaning, a starship will acelerate at 10km/sec^2. Sort of like going from zero to ten kilometers in a split second. With normal physics, your crew would get turned into gray goo. That's why you need things like inertial buffers and such. A Star Destroyer has a faster acceleration, I believe.

I'd say you're 2040CE-level tech. The Industrial Experiment and prolly Xessmithia are the only nations I know who uses exclusively realistic tech and are able to compete with Star Destroyers at the same time.....

Honestly, just make your own ships. Most stores are just rip-offs from games or novels, and their stat lists are generally quite useless.

*Activates Google*
1 000 g = 9.80665 (km / s) / s

Meaning, a starship will acelerate at 10km/sec^2. Sort of like going from zero to ten kilometers in a split second. With normal physics, your crew would get turned into gray goo. That's why you need things like inertial buffers and such. A Star Destroyer has a faster acceleration, I believe.

I'd say you're 2040CE-level tech. The Industrial Experiment and prolly Xessmithia are the only nations I know who uses exclusively realistic tech and are able to compete with Star Destroyers at the same time.....

Honestly, just make your own ships. Most stores are just rip-offs from games or novels, and their stat lists are generally quite useless.

Thanks Weyr. I do try my best to keep it realistic.

[QUOTE=Malkyer]I see myself as having moderate spaceflight (like, within the solar system), an orbital colony, and a couple of military cruisers. My population isn't big enough to support anything more. So would I be considered Near-Future Tech or Post Modern Tech or what?[/QUOTE
Probably Near Future Tech, you sound like your nation is ready to invent Warp Drive, which is the 1st step to having an armarada and being able to expand a great deal.

Alot of people use SC FI shows, such as Star Trek or Star Wars when they start out. And then they slowly move away from that.
I started out with Treknology but I'm slowly moving away from it.
Take ST Tech and Tweak it, most of it is based on RL theroys. And info can be found.
Like my ST ships are really souped up, my Weapons are rated at almost 30,000,00 TJ.

If you want to talk more my AIM is stman12345

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Interstellar travel? Affirmative
Large spacy armada? Indeed
Power to glass entire planets? I have the tech, but no platforms(Ships) to do it.
Multiple Colonies: One Homeworld (Gaia), Seralis, the Moonbase, Terra Colony, Veridian, Mining Colonies 1 - 13, and in a few Years (NS) the Oeilvert Colonies. Good enough for you?
Despised by pretty much everyone: Not true, most believe that future tech nations are godmodders, because of a few of us, this is not true. People like GZ, with the 50 mile long ships are the ones who ruin RPs. I will not say TFU because, I have to admit, he is getting much better.


Malkyer: if you're good enough, apply for ESUS. But, BEWARE THE TRIALS. :p

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Interstellar travel? Affirmative
Large spacy armada? Indeed
Power to glass entire planets? I have the tech, but no platforms(Ships) to do it.

Despised by pretty much everyone: Not true, most believe that future tech nations are godmodders, because of a few of us, this is not true. People like GZ, with the 50 mile long ships are the ones who ruin RPs. I will not say TFU because, I have to admit, he is getting much better.

:p
Yes TFU has gotten alot better, GZ just needs to stop wanking.
But most people have at least one Uber Flagship that can glass an whole planet. And some can even destory them. These range from 7km to 15km.
For Example, My Flagship is 12km Long and has a ton of ST based Weapons. And the "Shotgun Phaser" can take out a planet, how? Because there is only one and it is almost never used. But I do find it useful in big Fleet Manuvers.

@ECF: Erm...no. ST is based on quite a bit of BS done by people who take real science terms and completely and utterly misuse them. Most of it is technobable, and yes there are books, including the Science of Star trek, which completely and utterly destroy the self-proclaimed science ST is based on.

Anyways.....I refuse to bash ST beyond saying that it's technobable.....but most people will ignore your large terrajoules if you use them.

Look at what other people use for FTL and weapons. Hyperspace and warp are prolly the morst common ones. There's also wormhole, warpGate, and (the tech used almost exclusively by me) Translation.

Most alliances have a good number of wankers, whether they're techwabkers, statwankers, or numberwankers. Still.....

There's also AoN, which looks like an expansionist aliance. Haven't seen too much coming from them in the last few weeks.

ESUS is so bloated that no one will bother RPing a decent war with you, and most war RPs will prolly degenerate into b1tching contests over whose imaginary tech is better.

And the Galactic Empire, honorary owner of the third Death Star. We have pretty much everything, along with Sith, Jedi, and a long storyline that's still going on.

@ECF: Erm...no. ST is based on quite a bit of BS done by people who take real science terms and completely and utterly misuse them. Most of it is technobable, and yes there are books, including the Science of Star trek, which completely and utterly destroy the self-proclaimed science ST is based on.

Anyways.....I refuse to bash ST beyond saying that it's technobable.....but most people will ignore your large terrajoules if you use them.

Look at what other people use for FTL and weapons. Hyperspace and warp are prolly the morst common ones. There's also wormhole, warpGate, and (the tech used almost exclusively by me) Translation.

Most alliances have a good number of wankers, whether they're techwabkers, statwankers, or numberwankers. Still.....

There's also AoN, which looks like an expansionist aliance. Haven't seen too much coming from them in the last few weeks.

ESUS is so bloated that no one will bother RPing a decent war with you, and most war RPs will prolly degenerate into b1tching contests over whose imaginary tech is better.

And the Galactic Empire, honorary owner of the third Death Star. We have pretty much everything, along with Sith, Jedi, and a long storyline that's still going on.

Or... you're just upset because there is a test to decide who enters, and who doesn't. And, I, myself, don't call upon my ESUS allies very often, heck, I havent yet. And isn't all or most of the tech in Future tech, imaginary?
ESUS members don't godmod, techwank (For the most part, you know who you are :p ) Numberwank, ect.

@ECF: Erm...no. ST is based on quite a bit of BS done by people who take real science terms and completely and utterly misuse them. Most of it is technobable, and yes there are books, including the Science of Star trek, which completely and utterly destroy the self-proclaimed science ST is based on.

Anyways.....I refuse to bash ST beyond saying that it's technobable.....but most people will ignore your large terrajoules if you use them.

Look at what other people use for FTL and weapons. Hyperspace and warp are prolly the morst common ones. There's also wormhole, warpGate, and (the tech used almost exclusively by me) Translation.

Most alliances have a good number of wankers, whether they're techwabkers, statwankers, or numberwankers. Still.....

There's also AoN, which looks like an expansionist aliance. Haven't seen too much coming from them in the last few weeks.

ESUS is so bloated that no one will bother RPing a decent war with you, and most war RPs will prolly degenerate into b1tching contests over whose imaginary tech is better.

And the Galactic Empire, honorary owner of the third Death Star. We have pretty much everything, along with Sith, Jedi, and a long storyline that's still going on.
Most of the time I do not use my TJ's. But I do RP alot with other Sc Fi Fans, it's fun to see who's fleet can "out technology" the other one. ST nomally wins the SW vs ST fight.

If you want to be FT you need the following things.

1. A Big Ass Fleet
2. At least Several Planets
3. Some From of STl, Warp is the most Common, probably because it's pretty fast for the price of it.
4. Intersteller Trade network.
5. Another Big Ass Fleet.

Nope. I have no problem with an RP test. My problem is that, as I said, ESUS is so big that no one will try and atatck you, which makes for a hellishly boring existence.

In any case, I remember one of the last wars the ESUS got involved in, and it turned into a b1tchfest somewhere around page four, with everyone claiming their tech was realistic and everyone else was a wanker.

I think that was the illfated one with GZ, and it was on account of his cardboard armoured 50 mile long ubership with tinfoil for shields.

Might I also add I wasnt in that one...

If you want to be FT you need the following things.

1. A Big Ass Fleet
2. At least Several Planets
3. Some From of STl, Warp is the most Common, probably because it's pretty fast for the price of it.
4. Intersteller Trade network.
5. Another Big Ass Fleet.

1. Negatory
2. Nope
3. It's looking pretty bad so far,
4. At least I think so.
5. Kinda sad really.

If you want to be FT you need the following things.

1. A Big Ass Fleet
2. At least Several Planets
3. Some From of STl, Warp is the most Common, probably because it's pretty fast for the price of it.
4. Intersteller Trade network.
5. Another Big Ass Fleet.

1. Not really. The Weyrean private fleets still outnumber the Weyrean Star Guard two to one.
2. Most of those planets are quite independent, or are being strip-mined by private corporations. Then again, Weyr mines stars now, because it's cheaper ...
3. Translation: mass matters, distance doesn't.
4. If you're an enemy, try not to make yourself too apparent when you visit.
5. See No.1


Future tech: (the act of having) (1) Being capable of interstellar travel, (2) have large spacey armada, (3) the power to slag entire planets, (4) multiple colonies, and (5) are despised by pretty much everyone..who think that you are cheap and unfair and ruin rp. Yep. Future tech.

1. Translation: mass matters, distance doesn't.
2. The Weyrean private fleets still outnumber the Weyrean Star Guard two to one.
3. Six Siege Whoopers will shatter a planet. One will simply destroy all life on half of it.
4. Most of those planets are quite independent, or are being strip-mined by private corporations. Then again, Weyr mines stars now, because it's cheaper ...
5. Erm...dunno.