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Tailva ask for aid in developing nuclear weapons

Tailva
17-11-2004, 19:13
OOC:The king of Tailva had decided that to protect his country and maintain peace they must have nuclear weapons. They would only ever be used in self defence or as a deterant. Any country's who can assist the king of Tailva would be very greatful to you.
many thanks
Sanctaphrax
17-11-2004, 19:18
OOC: That post of yours should have been IC.

IC:
Are Tailva out of their minds? This from the nation who posted in my storefront how nuclear weapons are evil and if I ever sold them to anyone you'd take action? Hypocrite. Please, nobody sell this nation nukes.
Achleonia
17-11-2004, 19:21
Because of the recent history of Tailva and the warmongering, the kingdom of Achleonia advices any stronger country not to help Tailva to progress any weapons of mass destruction
Praetonia
17-11-2004, 19:26
OOC: I know loads of people will rush into this thread and say "Im really liberal, have some nukes. Get away hippocrits who have nukes but wont let him have them!". What I say is think like a nation (something that hardly anyone does in NationStates). Why would you want to give very expensive technology to a potential agressor? What's in it for you? Ok if it's a storefront you might get around 1% of the sale cost profit, but it sint really worth it, is it?
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 19:33
Responce from Hardheads
The only way we would give you nukes would be by using them on you.
President Blackhand
Sliponia
17-11-2004, 19:35
If anyone tries to provide nuclear weaponry to this nation, sanctions will be placed on all nations involved. All 1.73 billion Sliponians support this action.
Tailva
17-11-2004, 19:43
All these nations are telling me not to have nuclear weapons but they have got them, themselves do not listen to this nations they are the real threat to world peace. Going around telling everyone what to do stand up to them. "GIVE US THE BOMBS" said the king.
Sliponia
17-11-2004, 19:45
Tailva is a young nation and should just spend their own time developing nuclear technology. Sliponia did that a long time ago before they adopted an isolationist stance.
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 19:46
Based on your previos record..No.
Foreign minister Trife, speaking for the president who has already made his opinion clear
Praetonia
17-11-2004, 19:49
All these nations are telling me not to have nuclear weapons but they have got them, themselves do not listen to this nations they are the real threat to world peace. Going around telling everyone what to do stand up to them. "GIVE US THE BOMBS" said the king.
Official Statement, Imperial Government

The Democratic Imperium sees no advantage in allowing your nation to have nuclear weaponary. You can accuse of hippocracy, and you're probably right, but it wont make nuclear weapons materialise in front of you. If you intend to develop such weapons then you should show the world that you are responsible, and that you do not do stupid things such as threatening a huge number of considerably greater powers than yourselves.
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 19:53
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=&stc=1
Tailva

HM King Peter 1st of The Constitutional Monarchy of Bustlehome an HM Goverment would strongley condeme any atempt by Tailva to purchase weapons of mass destruction. Any such attempt wouls be seen by Bustlehome and the regional goverement (Region: Comonwealth of Sandwell)
as a direct threat to themselves and world peace and may resort to military action.

Yours Sincerley
King Peter 1st
Head of Sate for the Constitutional Monarchy of Bustlehome
Acting Head of Commonwealth for the Commonwealth of Sandwell
Sanctaphrax
17-11-2004, 19:53
All these nations are telling me not to have nuclear weapons but they have got them, themselves do not listen to this nations they are the real threat to world peace. Going around telling everyone what to do stand up to them. "GIVE US THE BOMBS" said the king.
Actually, wrong. I have no nukes. I am strongly anti-nukes, and unlike you, I practice what I preach. "Give us the bombs" congratulations, with speeches like that, I won't need to say any more.
Achleonia
17-11-2004, 19:54
Achleonia has not even one nuclear weapon or powerplant, and we're not in a hurry for them. When we get our research and refueling station to the orbit, we won't even think of nukes as the kingdom will start to expand to space and another planets and moons.
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 19:55
We would be willing to open a contract to Tailva for the development of Nuclear Materials. However, it's gonna cost you..
Brendanberia
17-11-2004, 19:56
It is common knowledge that our Holy Republic does posess tactical defensive nuclear weapons and peace through strength is our policy.Brendanberia's official stance to other nations is one of non proliferation.Any request for weapons grade Uranium, weapon technology or delivery systems by an ally must come first with a signed non proliferation treaty ... A request by a seemingly "rouge" nation with apparent human rights abuses is absurd.
Respectfully Msgr.John Killian Moore,Minister of state
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 19:57
OOC: Just a small note that my country doesn't even have nukes themselves. They just don't go around advertizing that fact. ;)
Aust
17-11-2004, 19:58
We would be willing to open a contract to Tailva for the development of Nuclear Materials. However, it's gonna cost you..
Hogsweat, seriously, do not even think about it, this guy will not hesitate to use them one anyone. We will condemm this action and make every attempt o sstop the transaction from taking place.
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 19:59
Hogsweat, seriously, do not even think about it, this guy will not hesitate to use them one anyone. We will condemm this action and make every attempt o sstop the transaction from taking place.



If he does, then he himself will be a wasteland in seconds.
Blue Faeries
17-11-2004, 20:00
The Blue Faeries will not help supply nuclear weapons (even supposing that we could -we might be able to, we're not going to tell you!) nor will we support you in their deployment.

The Blue Faeries will join in multilateral action against you and any other nation which sees nuclear weapons as a good deterent.

The Blue Faeries wish to take this opportunity to state that even though we are a young, vulnerable state we have no plans to obtain nuclear weapons (which we might be quite capable of).
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:00
Hogsweat we are very greatful to your for your offer and will happly begin a contract with you just name your price.
Godular
17-11-2004, 20:01
We don't have nukes...

We have worse.

But we're FT, so we can't jam 20 tons of lead down their throats at .1C.
Sanctaphrax
17-11-2004, 20:01
OOC: Hogsweat, this is the guy who in his first post insulted me, and by his fourth was onto declaring war on Dumpsterdam. Seriously rehtink this.
Achleonia
17-11-2004, 20:03
Believe me, he ain't going to be a wasteland. He has massmurdered his own people instead of evacuating the ruling family and just using rubber bullets. He has attacked Dumpsterdam(9 million against over 1.7 billion nations. Guess which one Tailva is) and godmoding the resources for a naval fleet. He would still pop up saying something newbish
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 20:03
OOC: No need.

We will charge 25 Trillion U.S.D for our scientists to hand over the technology and a further 50 Trillion U.S.D for the technology to develop Nuclear Weapons.
Godular
17-11-2004, 20:04
HS: I bet he'll say he can afford it.
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 20:05
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom will in no way help a nation such as his to buy, or develope WMD's. The only way that he will be able to get them into his country it to get them past our Economic Blockade around his country. Any nation that is interested in helping The Empire block in Tailva's nation, let us know.


OOC: Thread that the blockade is in is here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7490131
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 20:05
OOC: I have a backup plan for that... ; )
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:06
Hogsweat we are extremly greatful all we need now is a price and the money is yours.
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 20:07
I've already said..
We will charge 25 Trillion U.S.D for our scientists to hand over the technology and a further 50 Trillion U.S.D for the technology to develop Nuclear Weapons.
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:09
75 trillion alltogether we will hand over the money even though we will be in serious debt and owe a lot of money it is worth it to keep our people safe.
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 20:11
Sorry, due to recent gains in USD exchange rates the government is pushing and prices are upped to:

40 Trillion for the Technology, 100 Trillion for the ability to produce them.
Sliponia
17-11-2004, 20:11
He stated US$100 trillion. Which is financially impossible. Based upon an impartial economy spreadhsheet (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php) your military budget is roughly US$5 billion.

Even if you diverted funds...
Tailva:
Population: 12,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Average
Tax Rate: 35%
Government Budget: $65,337,958,778
Administration: $12,544,888,085
Welfare Spending: $10,035,910,468
Healthcare: $10,035,910,468
Education: $10,035,910,468
Spirituality: $3,763,466,426
Defence: $5,017,955,234
Law and Order: $10,663,154,873
Commerce: $1,254,488,809
Public Transport: $0
Envirnment: $0
Social Equality: $0
Government Waste: $2,613,518,351
Blue Faeries
17-11-2004, 20:12
The Blue Faeries are interested to know who is willing to lend you that much money. The Blue Faeries would happily squander such amounts on pretty things like trees.
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:13
we are very sorry but the price you ask is to much the countrys lending us the money will not give us anymore perhaps we can strike a deal.
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 20:14
Very well then, the original price. However, we request you wire the money to us first.
Sliponia
17-11-2004, 20:16
we are very sorry but the price you ask is to much the countrys lending us the money will not give us anymore perhaps we can strike a deal.

There is no way you can afford this. Your goverment budget is $65 billion. There is no way you can find enough governments to dontate enough to each $75 trillion or even $1 trillion.
Aust
17-11-2004, 20:17
Of course he has to run the blockade around his nation to get the nukes to his base.
Sliponia
17-11-2004, 20:18
Of course he has to run the blockade around his nation to get the nukes to his base.

Agreed. Sliponia will consider lending support to the blockade in addition to sanctions.
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 20:19
***OFFICIAL STATEMENT***
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom emphisizes to other nations around the world that Tailva is a warmongering nation and will attack anyone they wish just to get more land. They already have nations blockading their pitiful island. I hope that all nations see that Tailva is a nation that is trying to vie for world dominance and will tell any lies to get more land for their pitiful government.
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:23
agreed on the first price thanks to our allies we have the money 75 trillion it is then "money wired".
thankyou very much
Dumpsterdam
17-11-2004, 20:26
OoC: Oh for christ's sake Tailva, just give up. :) Besides, nobody will actualy take the fact that you have nuclear weapons since your below 100 million.

That and if you even *could* buy the weapons, you woudn't have enough money to either maintain or even launch them.(rockets cost money, so does fuel)

Oh and if you have nations funding you, you are actualy obliged to let us know(OoC ofcourse) otherwise your just godmodding. And for all of our sake's Tailva, keep OoC(out of charachter) and IC(in charachter) apart will ye?
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 20:27
***OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE***
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom would like the name of the Nation that is helping you with your funds.
Tailva
17-11-2004, 20:36
OOC: Of course we would be happy to tell you the countrys names that are lending us the money Finia and most of it allies have agreed to lend us large amount of money most of our content has agreed to plans to help us develop nuclear weapons and given us finacial aid some other communist countrys who have asked to remain unamed. Other small countrys which i have recently allied with including the senateZ who we have an embassy and 1,000 troops in there country just to prove we are allied with them. Other countrys like them on this small scale who in return we offered to give nuclear weapons technology to once we recieve the deilievery. Over storefront friends of finia have made donations most of these countrys hoping to spread COMMUNISM. So altogether we have just raised the money. OH we othered some smaller countrys aswell military protection from idiot agressors like you. All of this has been done by telegram to maintain our naions privacy.
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 20:36
Telegram from Hardheads to Shazbotdom [secret ic]
Sir, although we did not participate in the blockade originally, recent events, specifically the intent by the Tailva's to develop their own nuclear capability, have caused us to rethink our position. We would like to send our third fleet to assist in the blockade. It consists of the following vessels:
1 12 Tribes class CVN
2 Yorktown class CVN
1 Netanyahu class BBGN
2 Yamato 2 class BBGN
5 Kirov class CGN
4 Farragut class DDG
7 Inam Ramon class DDG
9 Chicago class FFG

The carriers carry between them: 180 SU-52 Fanatic and the same number of F-35 JSF's.
Signed
President of the Incorporated States Morgan Blackhand
Achleonia
17-11-2004, 20:38
Allies? What allies? For what I have seen, no nation has been seriously allied or even positive about your nation because of your history and warmongering
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 20:42
OOC: Thats interesting. The nation that Tailva said is helping him DOES NOT EXIST!!! Quoted off of the NS Web site. Anyone smell some godmodding?

Uh-oh
Nation Not Found: "Finia"
If possible, use your browser's BACK button to return and fix this.
Achleonia
17-11-2004, 20:43
OOC: Thats interesting. The nation that Tailva said is helping him DOES NOT EXIST!!!

OOC: FINIA is an alliance
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 20:45
OOC: Alright. I'll start looking around and asking questions if he is in this alliance. I still think he is full of shit and most likely godmodding.
Godular
17-11-2004, 20:46
There is no dang way that the nations that have any form of Diplomatic contact whatsoever with Tailva (all four of them) could scrounge up that much cash in such a short time.

No. Dang. Way.

The only way such a figure could even be reached is if the entire NWO/RWC pulled their combined economic might together and pooled their entire budgets into one big jaw-dropping whole... and even then it would be iffy, I think...
Scottsbrund
17-11-2004, 20:47
I for one, think it is insane to buy nuclear weapons. Anyone who is head of Tailva can become corrupt and use the weapons for his own gain. Then, whomever he/she attacks could turn and declare full out war on Tailva. I'm soory, but I can't help you.
Dumpsterdam
17-11-2004, 20:49
OoC: Oh I know that alliance, if push comes to shove I could take them all out by myself ;)

So yeh, have fun and for god sakes don't call me a idiot agressor since you are the one who attacked me remember?

PS: Launch one of those breadknives at Dumpsterdam or anyone of its allies and your gona be so glassed that they can ship your entire nation off as a glass bowl.
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 20:59
OoC: No responce to that telegram post, Shazbotdom?
Kelanis
17-11-2004, 21:07
OOC: Not one ounce of enriched nuclear material gets to Taliva. He reminds me too much of people like The Bisons... *shudder*

IC:

"Any attempt to produce or gain aid in order to produce nuclear weapons will be met with the necessary force in order to halt the operation."
--Unidentified Government Source
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 21:09
OOC: sorry, i was busy looking for stuff that proves Tailva is lying to us all.

IC:
Telegram from The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom to the Sovrign Nation of Hardheads
We thank you for your generosity in helping us blockade this rouge nation. If he attacks any ships in any of our fleets, i will send in an invasion force, which is why i brought the Tank Landing ships and the Amphibious ships with. We will stand proud against the menace that is Tailva!
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 21:11
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=59037&stc=1
Tailva, Hogsweat

The Ministry Of Defence for The Constitutional Monarchy of Bustlehome will again warn that the attempt to gain WMDs by Tailvia is seen as a threat to our nation, our region and world peace. If these actions do not cease we may consider military action. Any country found to be supplying or helping Tailvias quest for WMDs will also been seen as a threat.

We ask that a coalition of the willing be brought together to stop these rouge nations.

The Alert level for our region (Commonwealth of Sandwell) has been raised to caution.

Sir Richard Morris
Secretary of State for Defence
Sarzonia
17-11-2004, 21:17
[OOC: Most people would likely IGNORE your acquiring nukes with a 12 million population. The general guideline a LOT of RPers follow is 100 million population before beginning to develop a nuclear program.]

Sarzonia does not believe the nation of Tailva would show the necessary restraint for the acquisition of nuclear weapons. We are strongly against aiding them in developing said weaponry.

Any country that aids Tailva in the development of a nuclear programme will face dire economic and diplomatic consequences.

Jeremy Goss
Deputy Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 21:17
OoC note: sending 1/5 of the fleets overall strength isn't god modding, I hope. As this battle group is exactly 1/5 of my fleet, less that Dreadnought of mine, that is.
Responce to the positive reply to our offer [again, secret ic, to only Shazbotdom, although anyone else involved in the blockade will know soon enough]
They are on their way. Estimated arrival time: a week. Although the nuclear vessels have no problems moving around, the more conventionaly powered ones might have problems. Mind giving us a hand with the fueling? This is the first time we send a real fleet outside our own territorial waters, and we are saddened to admit we are a bit unprepared when it comes to refueling at sea.
Sarzonia
17-11-2004, 21:21
OoC note: sending 1/5 of the fleets overall strength isn't god modding, I hope. As this battle group is exactly 1/5 of my fleet, less that Dreadnought of mine, that is.
Responce to the positive reply to our offer [again, secret ic, to only Shazbotdom, although anyone else involved in the blockade will know soon enough]
They are on their way. Estimated arrival time: a week. Although the nuclear vessels have no problems moving around, the more conventionaly powered ones might have problems. Mind giving us a hand with the fueling? This is the first time we send a real fleet outside our own territorial waters, and we are saddened to admit we are a bit unprepared when it comes to refueling at sea.[OOC: I don't think it's a Godmode, but it may be risky to send a fifth of your fleet in a situation that isn't a declared war. Then again, for me that would be sending 1,000 ships. :p]
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 21:37
The MOD of the Constitutional Monarchy of Bustlehome would like on HRHs orders to bring together a coalition of the willing together to act as a deterent or to disarm Tailvia if it should aquire WMDs.

Sir Richard Morris
Secretary of State for Defence
Tanthan
17-11-2004, 21:49
OOC: Of course we would be happy to tell you the countrys names that are lending us the money Finia and most of it allies have agreed to lend us large amount of money most of our content has agreed to plans to help us develop nuclear weapons and given us finacial aid some other communist countrys who have asked to remain unamed. Other small countrys which i have recently allied with including the senateZ who we have an embassy and 1,000 troops in there country just to prove we are allied with them. Other countrys like them on this small scale who in return we offered to give nuclear weapons technology to once we recieve the deilievery. Over storefront friends of finia have made donations most of these countrys hoping to spread COMMUNISM. So altogether we have just raised the money. OH we othered some smaller countrys aswell military protection from idiot agressors like you. All of this has been done by telegram to maintain our naions privacy.

The Empire of Tanthan is in FINIA and we openly condemn your slander of our names for not even being a registered member of the alliance (the boards). You wish to see the power a nation who TRUELY has the power of the Sun under its command!? We have the technology, the resources, the man-power and the will to give you your wish! You must publically say you are not part of Finia and present a formal apology or else the Empire of Tanthan shall declare war on you for slander of the alliances good name.

OOC: I REALLY do have the power to have nukes, I have purchased all the technologies, I have the rockets, I have the bases and even my nation had the alternative power plant issue come up in which I choose the nuclear reactors, even more about it is that I have Uranium Mining as my nations TOP seller. Though I currently I have no made (discussing with FINIA about it) I will fight for the honor of FINIA.
Dumpsterdam
17-11-2004, 21:54
OoC: Well well well well, guess who's godmodding again? Tailva, go sit in a corner and wait till your a hundred million strong before you start developing nukes.

And take some RP lessons too.
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 21:57
I have herd little on the Tailvia affair. What is the current situation
Tanthan
17-11-2004, 22:01
OoC: Well well well well, guess who's godmodding again? Tailva, go sit in a corner and wait till your a hundred million strong before you start developing nukes.

And take some RP lessons too.

OOC: Or for that matter at least HAVE the tech and the funds to do such a thing, like I did. I have all the potential but I won't slap together so much as a dirty bomb if I don't need to.
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 22:15
IMPORTANT STATEMENT

Our Fleet including 3 Aircraft carries
HMS Bustlehome
HMS Charlemont
HMS Wigmore
and several subs have sent to Tailvia. All regimental forces and the Air Force have been put on high alert. If we do not receive confirmation that Tailvia has stopped its attempt to gain WMDs we shall invade Tailvia with the aim of removing the current regime.

HRH King Peter 1st
Aligned Planets
17-11-2004, 22:21
The Federation of Aligned Planets, whilst currently beginning to explore our own small-scale nuclear program for the purpose of providing an alternative energy source to coal, do hereby pledge not to allow Tailva access to our Uranium or to our research.

Both nuclear sites in Aligned Planets have been placed on high alert; air space over these two sites for a radius of 75 miles has been shut down indefinately to ensure our safety.

Chmhayak Vosneh
President of Aligned Planets
Paris, Earth
Tanthan
17-11-2004, 22:27
OOC: You sure you you can afford that? You only have Defence: $2,493,089,111 and another $593,121,914 in surplus for SLIGHTLY over 3 billion in military, since aircraft carriers and submarines cost billions each and huge amounts of supplies and munitions and high maintaince costs I highly doubt you can afford more then a few naval ships, you need logistics and transportation for the military, you obiviously don't have the funds to launch an invasion at this time. Stick to defense, I will personally see to it that FINIA's honor is not destroyed by this nation who speaks such slander!
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 23:10
His Royal Highness would like to thank you for your help in the Tailva nuclear situation.

HRH an HM Government believes the situation will not resolve itself and a deterrent is required. It is clear that Tailva is building up an 'axis of evil'.
We believe that if we have no conformation soon that Tailva is dropping its attempts to gain WMDs that we should opt for a policy of regime change.

We would therefore ask you and any other nation to join in our coalition of the willing to act as a deterrent. Any contribution however small would be appreciated

Richard Morris
Secretary of State for Defence
The Constitutional Monarchy of Bustleholme
Falcania
17-11-2004, 23:38
Tailva, wait until you have some more population and perhaps a little support. Nukes are not the start. Everyone seems to hate you except me. Earn some respect amongst forumgoers

Bustlehome, let me give you advice. Never invade a country on your fifth post. Do a little RPing first. Come and help liberate Tigria (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373766&page=3).
Hogsweat
17-11-2004, 23:40
Now Now Tailva, don't go around saying you have nukes because you don't. Quite frankly, you gave us the money, but we didn't give you the nukes. And we aren't going to. You just lost yourself 75 Trillion USD in a foolish attempt to gain a stranglehold. Good luck.


OOC: Seriously, bad way to start. And also, i'm not joking. You DON'T have the nukes.
Aligned Planets
17-11-2004, 23:47
To: Richard Morris, Secretary of State for Defence, The Constitutional Monarchy of Bustleholme
From: Chmhayak Vosneh, President of Aligned Planets
Concerning: Proposed Invasion of Tailva

Whilst we thank you for your interest in our external foreign affairs, we would like to take this opportunity to state that we will not taking decisive military action at this time. The Empire of Tailva has not taken an aggressive stance, with the exception of declaring an unwarranted and unchecked Nuclear Weapons programme, and as such we cannot condone an unprovoked attack.

If and when we feel that such action is justified, the Federation of Aligned Planets will make a deliberation as to whether we can afford the expense of committing troops and resources to such a venture.

Thank you
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 23:50
Responce to the positive reply to our offer [again, secret ic, to only Shazbotdom, although anyone else involved in the blockade will know soon enough]
They are on their way. Estimated arrival time: a week. Although the nuclear vessels have no problems moving around, the more conventionaly powered ones might have problems. Mind giving us a hand with the fueling? This is the first time we send a real fleet outside our own territorial waters, and we are saddened to admit we are a bit unprepared when it comes to refueling at sea.

Secret IC:
TO: Nation of Hardheads
From: Shazbotdom Naval Command
We are sorry to inform you but we cannot help with your refueling needs. All of our naval vessels are Nuclear Powered and we only brought enough air fuel for our own Air Forces. We will, though, give close quarters support for your navy if needed. We are currently in the process also of recruiting around more troops
Golencia
17-11-2004, 23:51
Golencian Naval Fleets have Departed to support any invasion of Tailva. The Golencian Army cannot help the invasion force as we still are experiencing problems ourselves. However our Navy which was mostly recieved from Grays Hill, are open for battle. The Ships that are alreayd blockading Tailva's ports will remain there until this Cold War goes hot
Bustlehome
17-11-2004, 23:51
Hogsweat can you confirm that Tailva has no nuclear weapons but have appproached you with the intent of buting some for military purposes.
Hardheads
17-11-2004, 23:55
Secret IC:
TO: Nation of Hardheads
From: Shazbotdom Naval Command
We are sorry to inform you but we cannot help with your refueling needs. All of our naval vessels are Nuclear Powered and we only brought enough air fuel for our own Air Forces. We will, though, give close quarters support for your navy if needed. We are currently in the process also of recruiting around more troops
To: Shazbotdom Naval Command
From: Sankau, flagship 3rd Fleet
Very well. We will order our more conventionally powered escorts to turn around. Luckily all the battleships, and the Kirovs, are nuclear powered, so the carrriers won't be on their own. We are also sending 3 subs to the area. A single Bud-2, and two Halibuts, they should be there at about the same time as the naval fleet.
Shazbotdom
17-11-2004, 23:57
TELEGRAM to HARDHEADS
OOC: Only he sees this TELEGRAM.
IC: The Golencian Navy would like to help you in refueling your Ships at sea. We are in the process of buying enough fuel to launch our own fleet thousands of Miles.

Commander in Chief of the Navy,
Marcus Martinez
END TELEGRAM

OOC: Golencia. He sent that "secret IC" telegram to me. You can't respond to it at all.
Golencia
18-11-2004, 00:03
OOC: oops. Im deleting that post
Bustlehome
18-11-2004, 00:05
Golencian we would like to thank you for your contribution. Your ships will be helping to man the blockade of Tailva.

We are currently reviewing inteligence that suggests that Tailva have no WMDs currently. If this is the case the threat for invasion will be dropped.
However until it is clear that Tailva has no longer any intrest in obtaining nuclear material the blockades will continue.

Richard Morris
Secretary Of state for Defence
Golencia
18-11-2004, 00:11
Our Blockading ships will not leave Tailva until Govermental Reforms have been made. This includig their leader and policies.

Cardinal Dupree

OOC: Tailva if you wish to know more about our intentions then drop us a telegram. Also yes we have Several Leaders participating in this RP. Cardinal Dupree head of the Holy Republic, President Ruben, Golencia's elected leader, Commander in Chief of the Navy, Hand picked Admiral.
Bustlehome
18-11-2004, 00:26
HRH has made it clear that he supports the aims Golencia but wouldlike to know more on what Golencia would like to achieve.

Richard Morris
MOD
Shazbotdom
18-11-2004, 00:35
Secret IC:
***Aboard the USS Freedom***
Fleet Admiral Al Yankovic was pacing about the command deck of the USS Freedom, glancing about the cabin and out the window's. He keeps looking in the direction of the warmongerer's, waiting for his next orders. Will he invade to overthrow the psycotic government? Will he bombard the island into oblivion? Who knows. All that he knows is that he must keep this blockade up and put a major dent in the Tailvian economy so that they decide to change their ways. Just then a deck creman bursts into the command center.

Crewman: "Fleet Admiral. We just spotted a large grouping of ships approaching our fleet."

Admiral: "Any visual signs of weapons targeting anything?"

Crewman: "No sir. We recieved word that a few more countries are helping s in the blockade."

Admiral: "Thats good. Tell the communications officer to send word to Emporer Bot that at current count we have stopped approximatly 30 merchant ships that have attempted to enter Tailvian waters."

Crewman: "Rodger that sir."

The admiral then walked back and took a seat at the command chair. He's a little bored with his current assignment, but realizes that this mission is in the best interest of not only The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom, but the United Nations and the World as a whole.
Golencia
18-11-2004, 00:43
OOC: This is cting like it should never seeing the secret IC

TELEGRAM to SHAZBOTDOM FLEET ADMIRAL in TAILVAN WATERS

Admiral,
Our Ships are approaching the Shores to aid your Blockade. We would like to know about the Current status of the blockade. We still have a fleet on the other side of the Country blockading ports there. Also Be Aware some Merchants that approach will be Armed, and wotn take no for an Answer.

Please Ignore our Subs which will be patrolling the Shore.

Commander in Chief of the Navy
END TELEGRAM
Hardheads
18-11-2004, 00:49
Bridge, 12 Tribes Class CVN Sankau
As the battle group sailed into the blockade zone Admiral Windham couldn't help feel a bit worried. His nation had never sortied a larger force than this one, yet he had been forced to leave most of his escorts at home, and would be relying on other nations in the blockade to help with defense of his carriers.
Navigation officer: Entering the blockade zone now, sir.
Admiral: Very good, liutenant. Comms!
Communication officer: Sir?
Admriral: Contact the blockading fleet from Shazbotdom. Tell them we are the fleet they were promised from Hardheads and request a status update
Communication officer: Yes sir
Trying to hide his nervousness from his crew he then looked at the radar screen, at the sheer number of vessels forming the blockade, and wondered if this all was enough.
[OoC: shall we keep the blockade here, or make a different thread about it?]
Golencia
18-11-2004, 00:59
OOC: IMO i think this is too crowded. I'd start a new thread since this is off the subject....

IC:

TELEGRAM to HARDSHEAD ADMIRAL

Sir,

Please ignore any Subs you see they are our escort and will be patrolling the shores. Also we have experienced several Merchanst with weapons onboard. Please inform us if you need any help.

Admiral Johnson
Hardheads
18-11-2004, 01:04
Telegram to Admiral Johnson
Sir,
Thank you for letting us know about your submarines, and we should tell you we brought some ourselves. As far as armed merchantmen is concerned. If we see a one trying to run the blockade, we will shoot, and not with practice shots. Might be a good test for those 18 inch guns on the Yamato 2.

Admiral Windham
Brendanberia
18-11-2004, 02:26
The Holy Republic offers a small contingent of support vessels to aide in the blockade of this warmongering "rouge" of a nation
The contingent consists of:
One(1) Nightangale class hospital ship
Two(2) Quence class refueling tankers
Two(2) Loyola repair vessels
Two(2) Templar class FFG escort
One(1) Eclipse class Air Defense Cruiser
One (1) Antioch class Heli carrier w/3 platoon 120 men Elite Holy Republic Guard spec warrior(security detail)
The contingent is flagged from the HRS Acre FFG
The Commander is Rear Adm.Douglas Alderman
This contingent is at the service of the blockade
Golencia
18-11-2004, 02:42
TELEGRAM to Brendanberia

Sir we have not brought any Hospital Ships of our own, if by any chance we have wounded may we send them to your ships?

Admiral Johnson
END TELEGRAM

TELEGRAM to ADMIRAL WINDHAM

Admiral,

I think it would be a strategic idea to have our Subs patrol together. This way we can avoid accidental firing on friendly subs, and increase the security of the blockade form below.

Admiral Johnson
The Parthians
18-11-2004, 02:55
The Shah would like to know if Taliva is a right-wing nation.
Shazbotdom
18-11-2004, 04:02
Secret IC:
***OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE***
To: All nations helping with the Blockade
From: Shazbotdom High Command, Office of the Emporer
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom will be prepared to send the 7th HAVOC fleet (Medical Subgroup). It consists of the Mercy Class Hospital Ship's USS Hope, USS Glory, USS Pride and the USS Red Cross. The hospital ships come with an armed escort consisting of 3 Kuznetsov Class Aircraft Carriers, 1 Drednaught Class Destroyer, 1 Apex Class Destroyer, 2 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers, and 3 Ivan Rogov Class Amphibious Ships.
Godular
18-11-2004, 04:12
OOC: Haveta get this off my chest cuz I played one in EQ for god knows how much too long:

ROGUE! ROGUE ROGUE ROGUE!

Rogue Nation = Country unwilling to abide by international standards of conduct and governance.

Rouge Nation = Country overly concerned with makeup.

I'd be laughing if I weren't so sad about the rampant nature of this misspelling.

And now back to telling Tailva to blow up in an unexplained manner.
Golencia
18-11-2004, 04:15
I created a thread for the Blockades. Tittled The Blockades of Tailva
Dougtopian States
18-11-2004, 04:38
Official Statement
Parliament of the Commonwealth of Dougtopian States

The Parliament of the Commonwealth of Dougtopian States:

RECOGNIZES the scientific, economic, and geo-political consequences of the developments of nuclear fission devices and in particular atomic weapons,

RECOGNIZES that the continued development, sale, and proliferation of nuclear devices is the single largest threat to international stability and security,

DECLARES THAT the Dougtopian Government and all subcontractors have halted development of nuclear weapons excepting 'subnuclear' devices for missile defense,

DECLARES that all nations should be permitted to advance science through the development of nuclear fission and fusion for peaceful and scientific purposes.

Therefore:

The Parliament of the Commonwealth of Dougtopian States hereby censures the Tailivan Government for their reckless attempts to further destabilize the already-fragile world situation. The Parliament further finds that any nation who persists in the development of nuclear weapons presents a clear and present danger to the Commonwealth of Dougtopian States as well as the region (United Nations of Desktopia). The Parliament warns Tailiva that continuing to develop or attempt to develop nuclear weapons may be met with military action.

However:

The Parliament of the Commonwealth of Dougtopian States hereby encourages the Tailivan Goverment to continue to develop fission for peaceful reasons including research and power generation.

signed

President Lord Admiral Douglas Charles, Dougtopian Maritime Self-Defense Force (Retired), President, Commonwealth of Dougtopian States.
Hogsweat
18-11-2004, 18:32
We can confirm that Tailva has not produced Nuclear Weapons. However, we do own 75 Trillion USD that Tailva gave us to give them Nuclear Technology. Which we did not, of course.
Godular
18-11-2004, 18:38
OOC: duuuuuuuuuuude... that's cold. :D
Falcania
18-11-2004, 19:15
I have TGed tailva to advise him to remove his request for nukes. When he withdraws his claim you MUST withdraw this barricade.
Dumpsterdam
18-11-2004, 19:18
I have TGed tailva to advise him to remove his request for nukes. When he withdraws his claim you MUST withdraw this barricade.

OoC: The only thing we must do is breathe and even that basic instict has been removed with most people on NS. :P

Don't think your save Tailva and neither are you Falcania if you defend him.
Hardheads
18-11-2004, 19:21
Encrypted message to Admiral Johnson [secret Ic]
Agreed. The current position of our subs will be sent to you, and we will advice them to help your subs in any way they can.
[Coordinates sent with the message]
Admiral Windham
Hardheads
18-11-2004, 19:22
We can confirm that Tailva has not produced Nuclear Weapons. However, we do own 75 Trillion USD that Tailva gave us to give them Nuclear Technology. Which we did not, of course.
OOC: I like your style. A lot :cool: . Boy will they be miffed when they figure that out.. :D
Falcania
18-11-2004, 19:23
Please dumpsterdam. Whatever happened to non-n00b bashing? He only started this thread because he was being attacked by other nations (or so I'm told). Anyway, Hogsweat, isn't 75 trillion godmoding? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are offered godmode money you should use those IGNORE cannons so usefully provided?
Praetonia
18-11-2004, 19:26
Yeah stop with the n00b bashing. Also, Taivla (sp?) hasnt posted for a page and a half (on 40 posts per page) now so I think he's gone.
Dumpsterdam
18-11-2004, 19:27
Please dumpsterdam. Whatever happened to non-n00b bashing? He only started this thread because he was being attacked by other nations (or so I'm told). Anyway, Hogsweat, isn't 75 trillion godmoding? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are offered godmode money you should use those IGNORE cannons so usefully provided?

OoC: You got msn or aim? I'd like to show you some proof that this isn't exactly n00b bashing and this almost asked me to kick his ass.
Falcania
18-11-2004, 19:30
Was it in a thread on this forum? If so then post the link.
Dumpsterdam
18-11-2004, 19:32
Was it in a thread on this forum? If so then post the link.

OoC: You can search for the two threads yeah, also I have some TG evidence but I'm not to keen on posting those on the forum.
Shazbotdom
18-11-2004, 19:59
OOC: He started a war with Dumpsterdam for no apparant reason and then godmodded throughout the whole goddamn thing. Here are links to the threads that he started.
Tailva declares war on dumpsterdam. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373513)
and
Tailva moves fleet to attack Dumpsterdam. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373782)