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MMA-D2 Pacifier
The Macabees have released the MMA-D2 AWACs/Reconaissance Aircraft, which is to provide ample AWACs, as well as an excellent anti-ballistic missile system, which has been proven on the field by the United States. However, the Macabee alternative offers for advanced technology, and a better host of resources to more successfully target enemy missiles.

The basic idea was putting in a four and a half million watt (6,000 horsepower) system on the belly of a large Boeing aircraft, which was capable of locking on to enemy missiles and destroying the missile warhead, and the computer system, thus rendering the missile dumb and useless. The United States government got that far. However, the major problem with the system was that it couldn't work the laser for the time required to destroy the missiles. The Macabees have come up with the answer.

Weapons:
Laser:
The MMA-D2 is somewhat larger than the American prototype and it trades a lot of space for a larger laser powerbase, putting in a 12,000 bhp system, giving it an enhanced ten million watts of power. Harnesing this into the laser uses a fireoptic fire and control mechanism, used by the United States, to lock on the target and destroy the incoming missiles. However, the main problem was not the strength of the laser, it was the fact that the laser destroyed the fire-obtic firing mechanism. The Macabees have finished this problem by adding a RENE 6N coating to the fire mechanism. The RENE 6N superalloy coating prevents Hydrogen Embrittlement (HEE) and protects from overheating, allowing the Macabee MMA-D2 to successfully engage and destroy incoming missiles.

The laser in use is a chemical oxygen lodine laser, for invented by Northrop Grumman Corp. It includes breakthrough optics designed to focus a basketball-sized spot of heat on a missile's skin to rupture it up to hundreds of miles away.

There are six seperate laser modules, the size of a pick up truck, placed on the belly of the aircraft - larger than a 747...perhaps one half times larger.

Countermeasures:
The MMA-D2 has a bomb bay to release phosphorous canisters into the air which blow to create gigantic, slow falling, phosphorous clouds, which block LIDAR light rays, allowing the MMA-D2 more time to counter the incoming missile - redirecting its laser to deal with the threat. Of course, agaisnt multiple threats this would be more limited.

The MMA-D2 also uses chaff and IR flares to counter against basic surface to air missiles, used by most nations today.

This dual solvent gives the MMA-D2 a good chance to survive in the air around AWACs perimeters, and coupled with the fact that most AWACs have, or should have, fighter cover, the MMA-D2 is a powerful weapon.

OOC: The phosphorous clouds actually do work. I've already consulted experts in the field. Just as long as the aircraft stays behind the cloud. Which means that you're going to have to fire off those canisters in succession to create a cloud big enough to hide your escape.

Engines:
The Pacifier has four Vulcan jet engines, which have a THYMONEL 8 superalloy coating, which gives it a maximum velocity of Mach 2.4. The THYMONEL 8 is a NiFe superalloy - or Nickel Based Iron Formula Superalloy - which also protected from HEE and over heating, giving the MMA-D2 Pacifier a long range, and an effectively high speed. The Pacifier can stay in the air for about eight hours, and has a rear gas bay for in air refueling.


Cost: 70 Million


OOC: I have a feeling I forgot a lot of what I wanted to add..oh well.

OOC:

Tag, for possible future purchases. Even though we currently operate an indiginously designed system which takes the further step of putting two rapid firing and powerful lasers on each aircraft, yours seems a bit more thought out. (And mine aren't even for sale, so this is no ad.) Very cool. Haven't read the specs in depth though, so somebody may find something wrong. Then again they may not, but argh, whatever, this was supposed to be a simple TAG.

OOC: hehe..sometimes happens.

The Dougtopian Government would be interested in such a system, but the cost of the system probably far outweighs our entire gross domestic product...

Seventy million what? Seventy million Dougoleons is do-able.

OOC:

Usually, the price is in US Dollars unless stated otherwise. ;)
(I think... :( )

OOC: I thought the system was rather cheap at 70 million USD.... I'll change if it isn't.

bump

*tag*

Might buy this interesting piece of technology...

It's based off a real life concept craft...I just made this "concept craft" a bit better.

I want to buy as many of those lasers as possible, and buy the production rights for them....and buy them....so I can create Anti-Missile defenses instead of Primitive Microwave Lasers....

Me want Modern Lasers!

I want to buy as many of those lasers as possible, and buy the production rights for them....and buy them....so I can create Anti-Missile defenses instead of Primitive Microwave Lasers....

Me want Modern Lasers!

Is this an actual ask for purchase? If so, it's confirmed.

$12 Million for production rights...
$12 Million more if you have specs for the laser....

Production rights confirmed..and I quote from the description:


The laser in use is a chemical oxygen lodine laser, for invented by Northrop Grumman Corp. It includes breakthrough optics designed to focus a basketball-sized spot of heat on a missile's skin to rupture it up to hundreds of miles away.

[OOC: This system is not viable. It's only capable of endo-atmospheric interception, which leaves the dangerous factor of a still free falling missile. The laser wouldnt render the warheads inert. It isnt efficient for theatre defense either, one of these could only cover a limited area, and despite it's own defenses, would be a prime target for fighters or SAMs.

It's just not a proper use of resources. However, if this system were applied to a satellite, or if you built a massive mirror in space, an orbiting relay reflector, which could focus the kinetic energy of the ground-based laser, then bingo. I think it's a good idea, but not aboard a plane :)]

I'll still have this toy to play with in the future...muhahahaha.....

[OOC: This system is not viable. It's only capable of endo-atmospheric interception, which leaves the dangerous factor of a still free falling missile. The laser wouldnt render the warheads inert. It isnt efficient for theatre defense either, one of these could only cover a limited area, and despite it's own defenses, would be a prime target for fighters or SAMs.

It's just not a proper use of resources. However, if this system were applied to a satellite, or if you built a massive mirror in space, an orbiting relay reflector, which could focus the kinetic energy of the ground-based laser, then bingo. I think it's a good idea, but not aboard a plane :)]

OOC: As an AWACs system its not designed to fly alone... it would, of course, have to be escorted by modern fighters, and would be in the midst of other, normal, AWACs aircraft.

This concept craft has actually been tested by the United States military, and has been successful. The only thing that failed was the fact that the laser could not be kept up long enough, which is why I added the THYMONEL 8 coating.

Also, the fact that it's an anti-ICBM system, not an end all to normal missiles, means that its going to intercept endo-atmospheric ICBMs and SLBMs; as for normal missiles, that's why you have CIWS, MSCIWS, and more modern SAMs (based off the S-400).

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg wishes to purchase (1) of these planes for study. We are interested in purchasing production rights on both the plane and the laser equipment it possesses, but we must perform our own tests before we make an offer.

70 million USD wire upon confirmation of order.

Have a nice day.

Josey Wales
Minister of Defense
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

[OOC: I dont know. What about decoys, MARVs? Obviously the Americans built this in the late 80s to counter Soviet objection to the SDI and other projects like it, because of SALT. What I dont understand is, Soviet response to nuclear attack would be to saturate the US. This system, or atleast a few, would have to be in the air 24/7. And to cover say, the continental US, you'd have to have atleast 20 aircraft.]

[OOC: I dont know. What about decoys, MARVs? Obviously the Americans built this in the late 80s to counter Soviet objection to the SDI and other projects like it, because of SALT. What I dont understand is, Soviet response to nuclear attack would be to saturate the US. This system, or atleast a few, would have to be in the air 24/7. And to cover say, the continental US, you'd have to have atleast 20 aircraft.]


OOC: No, no, sorry about the confusion. The United States has barely come out with a prototype to this aircraft... let me see if I can find the link to it.

Well, the United States proposed to build a few of them once they solved those laser problems and send them around North Korea to counter their nuclear tipped ordnances once they were shot into the air - or so I read according to a CNN report.

The Holy Republic of Hawdawg wishes to purchase (1) of these planes for study. We are interested in purchasing production rights on both the plane and the laser equipment it possesses, but we must perform our own tests before we make an offer.

70 million USD wire upon confirmation of order.

Have a nice day.

Josey Wales
Minister of Defense
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Confirmed.

I see no purpose in this technology. My S-500 Systems are twice as effective and much cheaper. However, they are still under development.

Well, the United States proposed to build a few of them once they solved those laser problems and send them around North Korea to counter their nuclear tipped ordnances once they were shot into the air - or so I read according to a CNN report.

Another child lost to CNN....gather and pray for his soul :P

I see no purpose in this technology. My S-500 Systems are twice as effective and much cheaper. However, they are still under development.

OOC: Oh no doubt that an S-500 can take out a normal missile; and my Praetorian Vs which may be more advanced than your system is very capable of downing missiles - however, this only adds another level of defense.

OOC: Oh no doubt that an S-500 can take out a normal missile; and my Praetorian Vs which may be more advanced than your system is very capable of downing missiles - however, this only adds another level of defense.

I pray that you know what the S-500 is? It can take down anything that flies. It is an intercontinental SAM Launcher buildt to counter any and all ICBM threats.

Also, there is no point in having that many defensive layers. MAD.

OOC: Well, a lot of other nations use a S-500 also; and it's just a better variation of the S-400..my mistake.

Hey, we are talking MAD here! ...it aint crazy, it's MAD! We'd all be MAD to fire our nukes, but atleast we have ABM defenses...

...get it? MAD....Mutually Assured Destruction? Geddit? I crack me up :)

OOC: Well, a lot of other nations use a S-500 also; and it's just a better variation of the S-400..my mistake.

No it's not. S-400 is a variation of the S-300.

S-500 is unique.

Your S-500 name isn't really unique. Iron Blood and several of his cronies use his own S-500, which is merely another SAM.

Your S-500 name isn't really unique. Iron Blood and several of his cronies use his own S-500, which is merely another SAM.

::sigh::

Look it up, my dear friend.

OOC: Why do you continue to combat the fact that several nations use the S-500 as a SAM? Damn! Contact Iron Blood if you want proof - he uses the S-500 as a SAM..he "created" it himself..I'm not doubting your own S-500 at all.

OOC: Why do you continue to combat the fact that several nations use the S-500 as a SAM? Damn! Contact Iron Blood if you want proof - he uses the S-500 as a SAM..he "created" it himself..I'm not doubting your own S-500 at all.

It is a SAM. However, it has range in the thousands of kilometers. Noone "created" it. It is a Russian system.

OOC: You're not getting the message... Iron Blood made his own variant of the S-400, and called it the S-500..all he did was add greater thrust and greater vectoring... it's not based off the real S-500.... I thought the S-500 was a joint project between the Russians and the United States? That's what FAS said.

OOC: You're not getting the message... Iron Blood made his own variant of the S-400, and called it the S-500..all he did was add greater thrust and greater vectoring... it's not based off the real S-500.... I thought the S-500 was a joint project between the Russians and the United States? That's what FAS said.

Oh, I see now.

It is not, however, a joint project. Russia has swerved on a different course.