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DA Makes "Thought Crimes" Illegal (Department of Thought Police)

Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:06
"This is Joseph Mladic of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network. We have just successfully finished production and distribution to proper authorities of the "Brain monitor" machines, they monitor brain wave activities and can determine completely accurately, if given answers are true or false... We will now institute a program of "Thought policing" at least once a month, we will require each and every citizen to submit to testing to confirm their loyalty and continued compliance with all laws. We will be commissioning a new internal security police force, to be known as the "Department of Thought Police. This is a great day for Mississippi and his Commonwealth."


Ooc- This thread will have a few interesting things about thought criminals being tried and accused, and such... Stay tuned.
Camel Eaters
16-11-2004, 03:09
Kay then. Once again DA proves to be a shining beacon of hope and progressive minded reform.

Tyler Cordal
Director of Humanity and Proper Doomness
Kahta
16-11-2004, 03:09
Wow. I thought you were taking actions that helped humanity.

King MacDonald
Eldanor
16-11-2004, 03:12
Ah, so now people aren't even safe in their minds. What a comforting thought.

High Lady
Alasse Órecalo
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:15
The cameras were rolling, broadcasting to the world, Mississippian justice.


Four young men were tired to poles in the courtyard of the Peoples Ministry of Justice, standing before them was a firing squad, readying their weapons...


Each of the men were asked, "What do you have to say?" by the judge.

The judge walked up and down the courtyard as they started to speak, the first man said, "I accuse myself of thought crime... I had impure thoughts about the Czarina, and I conspired, in my mind, to harm the Czar and harm federal installations, of these charges I am guilty... I ask only for a quick and merciful death."

The second man said, "I accuse myself of thought crime. I had a desire to shoot a member of the nobility, over a matter of a minor traffic dispute... I am guilty of this horrible crime, I ask only for a quick and merciful death."

The third man shook his head, not wanting to go through with it, "I accuse... I accuse myself of thought crime... I am a thought criminal, I desired to incite rebellion among the peasantry... Of this crime I am guilty and hope only to receive a quick death."

The last man was in tears, "I accuse myself of thought crime..." He choked up, "I am guilty... I am guilty, God have mercy on my soul! I wanted to love the Czar, but I can't... I wanted to love the party and do as they told me, but I can't... I just can't! God have mercy on my soul!"

The judge shouted, "Ready!" and the men all snapped to attention, raising their arms, "Aim!" and they all took aim... "Fire!"

The volley from the twenty on the firing squad tore into the four men tied to the poles and they were all dead before they knew what hit them.


The reporter commented, "Justice, for thought criminals..."
Sharina
16-11-2004, 03:17
"This is Joseph Mladic of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network. We have just successfully finished production and distribution to proper authorities of the "Brain monitor" machines, they monitor brain wave activities and can determine completely accurately, if given answers are true or false... We will now institute a program of "Thought policing" at least once a month, we will require each and every citizen to submit to testing to confirm their loyalty and continued compliance with all laws. We will be commissioning a new internal security police force, to be known as the "Department of Thought Police. This is a great day for Mississippi and his Commonwealth."


Ooc- This thread will have a few interesting things about thought criminals being tried and accused, and such... Stay tuned.

OOC:

I thought people referred to states, ships, nations, etc. as either "its" or "her" (ships use female references).

What gives?
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:18
"This is the White Peoples Radio and Television Network... Under the newly passed Big Brother II Act we will now be mandating that all homes that have televisions have them altered, at government cost, so that they cannot be shut-off in the home, the government will shut them off if and when they deem it necessary... This is so emergency bulletins can be immediately broadcast around the nation without delay. We thank you all for your cooperation."
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:19
OOC:

I thought people referred to states, ships, nations, etc. as either "its" or "her" (ships use female references).

What gives?


Ooc- We're a patriarchal society, to the extreme...
imported_ViZion
16-11-2004, 03:20
Ooc: 1984?
Eldanor
16-11-2004, 03:23
All right, now we out right condemn this. Have a good day.

High Lady
Alasse Órecalo
The Island of Rose
16-11-2004, 03:24
Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

You're killing people because they get horny? Wow. You know, to prevent this can you not make a machine that de-erect the penis? Or some sort of shock system in the boy's underwear to spare them death. Eh. Either way, you're going to have alot of dead teenage boys. And girls too, maybe.
Sergei Ilyanov
President of The Island of Rose
http://img50.exs.cx/img50/8470/PresidentSergei.jpg
Sharina
16-11-2004, 03:25
"This is the White Peoples Radio and Television Network... Under the newly passed Big Brother II Act we will now be mandating that all homes that have televisions have them altered, at government cost, so that they cannot be shut-off in the home, the government will shut them off if and when they deem it necessary... This is so emergency bulletins can be immediately broadcast around the nation without delay. We thank you all for your cooperation."

OOC:

What about deaf people? This would be ineffective brainwashing aganist deaf people.

Also, whats to stop people from getting ear-muffs or hearing protective gear so not to hear the TV all night?

Just asking as I'm deaf in real life.
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:28
Ooc: Vizion, no it's 2005 :D (Anyway, yes, 1984, a friend passed me the book, and I'm currently reading it, and I've just seen the movie a short while ago, again, a friend practically insisted I see it, comparing the current Bush regime to "Big Brother"



Ic-

"This is Joseph Mladic of The White Peoples Radio and Television Network... Declaring the following... Last year steel production exceeded four thousand million ton, up twenty percent from 2003... Last year crude oil production was over two billion barrels, up thirty percent from 2003... Last year over three billion firearms for civilian use were produced, and over five hundred million firearms were produced for military use... Twelve thousand MiG-41s were produced for domestic and foreign sale, and over two thousand were produced for military use..."

"Last year, over four hundred million gallons of chemical and biological weaponry was produced. Over six hundred million tons of tobacco was grown for domestic consumption. Last year over fifty million automobiles were produced in Mississippi alone, and that is just the figure for domestic sale, the foreign sale figure exceeds that figure by at least forty percent. The number of civilian body armor in Level III produced was in excess of ninety million produced and eighty million sold, ten million exported... More on this news in a short while."
Camel Eaters
16-11-2004, 03:31
OOC:

What about deaf people? This would be ineffective brainwashing aganist deaf people.

Also, whats to stop people from getting ear-muffs or hearing protective gear so not to hear the TV all night?

Just asking as I'm deaf in real life.
He's DA they probably just kill the "defects" for fun.
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:32
OOC:

What about deaf people? This would be ineffective brainwashing aganist deaf people.

Also, whats to stop people from getting ear-muffs or hearing protective gear so not to hear the TV all night?

Just asking as I'm deaf in real life.


Ooc-

Really, deaf? I had no idea... Anyway, in my nation, nobody is born deaf, we genetically engineer that... There are literally hundreds of thousands of deaf veterans though (lots of soldiers get into a thick fire-fight and have to use a comrades shoulder to rest a medium-machine gun, as there is no time to bipod it or tripod it... So people are deaf, a lot)

But, we do have advanced hearing restoration techniques (I generally consider overall DA medical technology to be at least 30-50 years ahead of current RL 2004 technology).

We also have literally hundreds of millions of posters, that read such as, "Love The Czar!" and have his picture, or "The Czar Is Watching You!", or "Big Brother Is Watching!", or "You'd Better Beware, The DIS Is Everywhere!"
Evil Woody Thoughts
16-11-2004, 03:36
OOC: Getting earmuffs would probably be construed as a 'thought crime.' :rolleyes:

IC: The Government of Evil Woody Thoughts condemns the formation of the Department of Thought Police. To reflect these concerns, we will embargo all trade with Decisive Action until this entity is disbanded and the brain-monitoring machinery destroyed. It is not difficult to imagine the next step of government operatives using the brain-monitoring machines to implant 'treasonous' thoughts in someone, then executing that person for a thought that they never would have considered had it not been forced upon them.

As such, we will offer political asylum to any refugees from Decisive Action who make it to our shores. We will also accept mass deportations from Decisive Action if it averts mass executions of 'thought criminals.'

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 03:39
OOC: Getting earmuffs would probably be construed as a 'thought crime.' :rolleyes:

IC: The Government of Evil Woody Thoughts condemns the formation of the Department of Thought Police. To reflect these concerns, we will embargo all trade with Decisive Action until this entity is disbanded and the brain-monitoring machinery destroyed. It is not difficult to imagine the next step of government operatives using the brain-monitoring machines to implant 'treasonous' thoughts in someone, then executing that person for a thought that they never would have considered had it not been forced upon them.

As such, we will offer political asylum to any refugees from Decisive Action who make it to our shores. We will also accept mass deportations from Decisive Action if it averts mass executions.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Democratic Republic of Evil Woody Thoughts


"This is just a preventative security measure to keep foreign operatives from blending in amongst our population... Anyway, since we don't trade with you, we don't consider the embargo anything of real meaning or value. And the only refugees would be foreign communists blending with our populace, if there are any... There aren't enough native Mississippians in the Communist Party to fill a phone booth."
imported_ViZion
16-11-2004, 03:41
Ooc: Vizion, no it's 2005 :D (Anyway, yes, 1984, a friend passed me the book, and I'm currently reading it, and I've just seen the movie a short while ago, again, a friend practically insisted I see it, comparing the current Bush regime to "Big Brother"
OOC: lol :P Ya, rather interesting book, gets ya thinkin... I figured you'd know what I meant by that if you had/are readin it, and I was write... anyway, this should turn into an interesting RP...

TAG
A Few Rich People
16-11-2004, 03:44
"Though we see the value of being able to monitor thoughts we deem the illusion of freedom causes less social problems within the rabble than such methods of monitoring."

-Mikosolf Corporation
Sharina
16-11-2004, 04:01
Greetings, Decisive Action.

I would like to make a formal inquiry into these mind control or thought monitoring technologies and techinques.

I do wonder, though. How will you manage to keep such a large populace under control? If people think inapportiate things like indecent, sexual, or non sanctioned thoughts, do you intend to kill them all? If so, you will lose a large portion of your populace as people think about those kinds of things everyday, and all the time. You cannot prevent human nature, as humans are always constantly thinking about many different things.

Unless you lobomotize every citizen of your nation, or implant thought CONTROL mechanisms, you will end up losing millions of civilians that are needed in your economy.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 04:22
Greetings, Decisive Action.

I would like to make a formal inquiry into these mind control or thought monitoring technologies and techinques.

I do wonder, though. How will you manage to keep such a large populace under control? If people think inapportiate things like indecent, sexual, or non sanctioned thoughts, do you intend to kill them all? If so, you will lose a large portion of your populace as people think about those kinds of things everyday, and all the time. You cannot prevent human nature, as humans are always constantly thinking about many different things.

Unless you lobomotize every citizen of your nation, or implant thought CONTROL mechanisms, you will end up losing millions of civilians that are needed in your economy.

President Rand Veristek


"We first attempt to rehabilitate the thought criminals... Those who fail, and only about 1/100 of one percent fail, will be shot..."


Wilhelm Ernst, Minister of Thought Police
Iuthia
16-11-2004, 05:14
Hm... thought crime. Again, along with your other reforms, we will need to know if this applies to foriegn dignitaries, specifically Iuthian personell currently residing in Decisive Action. Such a move in law is a severe security risk to our people working over there as they could be arrested with little more then a accusation from someone who doesn't like them, such a situation is unacceptable... even for someone doing as well as Ambassador Tzing.

While we don't have a problem with you enforcing these laws on your people and all, what with it being part of your nations... err... cultural development, we can't accept that our people can be arrested for "thought crime" or any other such terribly unconventional law and frankly impossible to prove law.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 05:40
Hm... thought crime. Again, along with your other reforms, we will need to know if this applies to foriegn dignitaries, specifically Iuthian personell currently residing in Decisive Action. Such a move in law is a severe security risk to our people working over there as they could be arrested with little more then a accusation from someone who doesn't like them, such a situation is unacceptable... even for someone doing as well as Ambassador Tzing.

While we don't have a problem with you enforcing these laws on your people and all, what with it being part of your nations... err... cultural development, we can't accept that our people can be arrested for "thought crime" or any other such terribly unconventional law and frankly impossible to prove law.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

"We have no intention of enforcing this law against foreign ambassadors as long as they are on embassy property... We will only enforce it if they are outside embassy grounds and are thinking about killing top government officials, such as the Czar or Czarina."

Wilhelm Ernst, Minister of Thought Police
Callisdrun
16-11-2004, 05:44
Statement from Prime Minister Anne Eriksen:

"This is simply ridiculous. I hope they're happy once they've brainwashed the masses, killed any that weren't fooled, and then find that they've created a stale and boring society for themselves when no one is allowed to think differently. Oh, and of course Callisdrun is always open to any refugees fleeing this repression. This really takes the cake."

OOC: I don't care how homogenous your society is, there will be people who don't want to live there anymore because of government action like this, even if they're only a few.
Sharina
16-11-2004, 06:10
"We first attempt to rehabilitate the thought criminals... Those who fail, and only about 1/100 of one percent fail, will be shot..."


Wilhelm Ernst, Minister of Thought Police

Greetings, Wilhelm Ernst.

I was wondering what kind of thoughts are not going to be sanctioned in Mississippi. If you would be kind enough to provide a list or details, I can attempt to instruct my dignitaries in Sharina's embassies in your nation to try to follow these protocols to avoid any incident between ourselves.

I am curious about one thing. Is creativity on the list of non-sanctioned thoughts? If so, I feel I must disagree since creativity is what propels empires to greatness. If you cannot think up innoative new technologies, use creative military tactics, or non-traditional ideas to boost development, then the empire shall surely stangate.

I encourage creativity in my nation, and it has done great wonders in military, civlian, scientific, technological, industrial, and economic fields.

I await your response.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 06:15
Statement from Prime Minister Anne Eriksen:

"This is simply ridiculous. I hope they're happy once they've brainwashed the masses, killed any that weren't fooled, and then find that they've created a stale and boring society for themselves when no one is allowed to think differently. Oh, and of course Callisdrun is always open to any refugees fleeing this repression. This really takes the cake."

OOC: I don't care how homogenous your society is, there will be people who don't want to live there anymore because of government action like this, even if they're only a few.


Ooc- Anybody who didn't want to live under the Fabus family, would have left (or been gassed) during the Curtis regime (December of 1984 - August of 2004) he was a hardliner, Roger is moderate.
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 06:17
Greetings, Wilhelm Ernst.

I was wondering what kind of thoughts are not going to be sanctioned in Mississippi. If you would be kind enough to provide a list or details, I can attempt to instruct my dignitaries in Sharina's embassies in your nation to try to follow these protocols to avoid any incident between ourselves.

I am curious about one thing. Is creativity on the list of non-sanctioned thoughts? If so, I feel I must disagree since creativity is what propels empires to greatness. If you cannot think up innoative new technologies, use creative military tactics, or non-traditional ideas to boost development, then the empire shall surely stangate.

I encourage creativity in my nation, and it has done great wonders in military, civlian, scientific, technological, industrial, and economic fields.

I await your response.

President Rand Veristek


From: Wilhelm Ernst

"In response to your recent letter... We certainly encourage creativity and seizing the initiative... What we do is make sure that the initiative and creativity are in the service of higher powers, the state, the Czar, and God. We do not tolerate blasphemy, conspiracy, thoughts of perversion, and other such deviance."

Sincerely,
Wilhelm Ernst

P.S. I hope that helped clarify the situation.
Sevaris
16-11-2004, 12:52
Another brilliant idea from the crazy men in Mississippi. What a bleedin' great idea- taking away free will!

-Yuna
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 13:29
Another brilliant idea from the crazy men in Mississippi. What a bleedin' great idea- taking away free will!

-Yuna

"Silence whore, you're a thought criminal in every way imaginable. Letting any man that comes along, have a go at you. Have you no shame?"

Joseph Mladic
(current chairman of the Anti-Yuna League and Anti-Sevaris League)
Iuthia
16-11-2004, 13:36
"We have no intention of enforcing this law against foreign ambassadors as long as they are on embassy property... We will only enforce it if they are outside embassy grounds and are thinking about killing top government officials, such as the Czar or Czarina."

Wilhelm Ernst, Minister of Thought Police

In that case we have no choice other then to pull our people out of Decisive Action. The threat level is concidered to high now for them to operate safely. We cannot accept that your people can arrest Iuthian diginitaries on a whim and as such we won't tolerate such conditions.

As much as we feel an embassy is important for relations we aren't about to risk the lives of our people. This transmission is our formal 24-hour notification of our desire to pull out our entire diplomatic staff in Decisive Action, unless condititions change in the next 24-hours we would like our people to be out on the first plane available.

We are sorry it has come to this, but you have made it too unsafe for our people to work without fear of their very lifes... the fact they can be arrested for nothing more then asking the wrong question makes our ambassadors job impossible. Allowing for cultural differences is one thing, but these latest laws go to far and are simply too dangerous for Iuthians to operate under.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 13:37
"All across Mississippi, the Big Brother II Act has taken hold with such swift and beautiful force. Soon we will have what we has eluded us for the twenty years of my rule. Total security and total peace."

Ex-Premier Curtis Fabus commenting on his sons decision to add "Poster coverage" to the Big Brother II Act

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ComMiss/CurtisFabus.jpg



All throughout Mississippi and his federation there are now signs proclaiming, "Big Brother Is Watching You"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ComMiss/BigBrother1.jpg
Copy of picture as taken from the Department of Thought Police official site.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ComMiss/BigBrother2.jpg
Poster in action, location Marsa Matruh in Mississippian Egypt.
Sharina
16-11-2004, 15:36
From: Wilhelm Ernst

"In response to your recent letter... We certainly encourage creativity and seizing the initiative... What we do is make sure that the initiative and creativity are in the service of higher powers, the state, the Czar, and God. We do not tolerate blasphemy, conspiracy, thoughts of perversion, and other such deviance."

Sincerely,
Wilhelm Ernst

P.S. I hope that helped clarify the situation.

Greetings once again, Wilhelm Ernst.

Thank you for your timely and prompt response.

I have been wondering exactly how you are enforcing the Thought Police. Is it through a computer chip implanted in people, advanced polygraph tests, ESP, etc.

I do recall several neurological technologies from several years ago, from the nation of Maradaxa. Is this Thought Police based off that?

Please enlighten me.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
16-11-2004, 17:28
Greetings once again, Wilhelm Ernst.

Thank you for your timely and prompt response.

I have been wondering exactly how you are enforcing the Thought Police. Is it through a computer chip implanted in people, advanced polygraph tests, ESP, etc.

I do recall several neurological technologies from several years ago, from the nation of Maradaxa. Is this Thought Police based off that?

Please enlighten me.

President Rand Veristek


"We ask people a serious of questions, and monitor brain activity to determine if they are lying and what the natures of the lies are likely comprised of."

Wilhelm Ernst
Sharina
16-11-2004, 18:47
"We ask people a serious of questions, and monitor brain activity to determine if they are lying and what the natures of the lies are likely comprised of."

Wilhelm Ernst

Greetings.

I was wondering if your department, or the Czar would be willing to share this methodology or technology with Sharina. I would like to test this technique on the criminals and captured terrorists that are languishing in Sharina's prisons.

I am prepared to offer compensation for the sharing of this Big Brother technique.

President Rand Veristek
Kahta
17-11-2004, 00:32
Joseph Mladic
(current chairman of the Anti-Yuna League and Anti-Sevaris League)


OOC: I found this hillarious.
Kelonian States
17-11-2004, 00:50
"This is the White Peoples Radio and Television Network... Under the newly passed Big Brother II Act we will now be mandating that all homes that have televisions have them altered, at government cost, so that they cannot be shut-off in the home, the government will shut them off if and when they deem it necessary... This is so emergency bulletins can be immediately broadcast around the nation without delay. We thank you all for your cooperation."

Of course, that method of of mind-control is easily dealt with by nailing a sturdy plank over the speakers and perhaps also the screen. If you really wanted to ensure they got their required dose of propaganda, you'd have sound sensors installed in the houses as well to ensure the 'Emergency Bulletins' are booming out loud and clear, and if they're not, a little red light blinks into life at the local Thought Police headquarters ;)

Note: The above in no way reflects the views or ideals of the Kelonian government. Thank you for your time.
Doomingsland
17-11-2004, 00:55
Official Imperial Communique

We are interested in this mind reading technology, and would like to acquire some. Name your price.
Roach-Busters
17-11-2004, 00:56
*Tag*

(DA, this is one of your most brilliant threads yet! ;))
Sevaris
17-11-2004, 02:53
"Silence whore, you're a thought criminal in every way imaginable. Letting any man that comes along, have a go at you. Have you no shame?"

Joseph Mladic
(current chairman of the Anti-Yuna League and Anti-Sevaris League)

"Sir, have YOU no shame? You tell lies about good people for no reason. Also, there is no such thing as a 'thought crime'."
Southeast USA
17-11-2004, 03:14
Ambassador Deed of the Southeastern USA Confederacy -

"I am amazed and stunned by your wonderous nation. If there truly is a heaven-like Utopia on earth, I have found it. I express the deepest respect for your great leadership. On behalf of of Southeast USA we ask a large favor of you. Our country is splitting into civil war, with rebel opposition lead by the Liberal wackos and terrorist scum of our nation. They will bring down this country if they gain power, and I'm not about to let that happen. The Conservative Party and the rest of the Confederate loyalists in our country would be very greatful if you could help us advance our country in the technology fields. Help us hunt down and capture these criminals before they do anymore harm. Name your price if you wish. We're also looking to employ some much needed military help if it is needed in the future and we hope we can develop a good and prosperous relationship with the Czar and Czarina. Thank you. We hope you will see this request through."
Roach-Busters
17-11-2004, 03:18
Official Imperial Communique

We are interested in this mind reading technology, and would like to acquire some. Name your price.

Same here. I'll pay a bundle for 'em.
Holy Paradise
17-11-2004, 03:27
Ooc-

Really, deaf? I had no idea... Anyway, in my nation, nobody is born deaf, we genetically engineer that... There are literally hundreds of thousands of deaf veterans though (lots of soldiers get into a thick fire-fight and have to use a comrades shoulder to rest a medium-machine gun, as there is no time to bipod it or tripod it... So people are deaf, a lot)

But, we do have advanced hearing restoration techniques (I generally consider overall DA medical technology to be at least 30-50 years ahead of current RL 2004 technology).

We also have literally hundreds of millions of posters, that read such as, "Love The Czar!" and have his picture, or "The Czar Is Watching You!", or "Big Brother Is Watching!", or "You'd Better Beware, The DIS Is Everywhere!"
A guy walks down a street in DA. He begins thinking of taking a dump on the Czar's head. "I'll probably be killed," he said, "but at least I'll be laughing."
Fascist Confederacy
17-11-2004, 03:28
Roger, I'am very much interested in this... We have a similar program in The Confederacy, but not to this degree or advancement. Perhaps you could assist me in creating likewise technology? -- Czar Charles Hayden
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 03:29
A guy walks down a street in DA. He begins thinking of taking a dump on the Czar's head. "I'll probably be killed," he said, "but at least I'll be laughing."

That's spam... Please don't spam my threads...
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 03:31
"The Department of Thought Police will help interested friendly nations install the "Big Brother Brain Monitoring System" in their intelligence centers, for the price of 100,000,000,000 USD per system (each system can handle 10 people at once) These will only be the "Export version" and will not include some of the super-secret accessories that only special allies can obtain."


Wilhelm Ernst
Fascist Confederacy
17-11-2004, 03:31
OOC: Bump and tag. Waiting for Roger to reply to the assistance question.
Holy Paradise
17-11-2004, 03:36
That's spam... Please don't spam my threads...
No I seriously have a Holy Paradisian who thought that, and now we can have the most controversial trial of the century! I'm serious! it'd be a great RP.
Industrial Experiment
17-11-2004, 03:50
From the desk of Governer McLagherty

While I do not directly...agree with these methods, I do have a question.

Do you allow those who are accused of non-violent thought crimes the choice of leaving your country? I only speak of victim-less crimes, of course.
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 03:56
OOC: Bump and tag. Waiting for Roger to reply to the assistance question.


Post 45
Siesatia
17-11-2004, 03:58
OOC: 1984 was such a good book until now...... :p
Sharina
17-11-2004, 06:43
"The Department of Thought Police will help interested friendly nations install the "Big Brother Brain Monitoring System" in their intelligence centers, for the price of 100,000,000,000 USD per system (each system can handle 10 people at once) These will only be the "Export version" and will not include some of the super-secret accessories that only special allies can obtain."


Wilhelm Ernst

Greetings, Wilhelm Ernst.

I would like to purchase one system for testing purposes on criminals in Sharina. Hopefully a method can be found to instantly make criminals into model citizens with no memories of their crimes, and wipe out all vestiges of criminal tendencies.

Would you be interested in a partnership into developing the ultimate "instant-cure" for criminals?

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 06:58
Greetings, Wilhelm Ernst.

I would like to purchase one system for testing purposes on criminals in Sharina. Hopefully a method can be found to instantly make criminals into model citizens with no memories of their crimes, and wipe out all vestiges of criminal tendencies.

Would you be interested in a partnership into developing the ultimate "instant-cure" for criminals?

President Rand Veristek


"We already have memory wiping, memory altering, and such, but they were banned by Curtis Fabus around 2001-2002 as they were deemed overly barbaric."

Wilhelm Ernst
Sharina
17-11-2004, 07:04
"We already have memory wiping, memory altering, and such, but they were banned by Curtis Fabus around 2001-2002 as they were deemed overly barbaric."

Wilhelm Ernst

Greetings.

Perhaps we could find a more efficient and reasonable method to do these, in a far more civilized manner. After all, the more advances we make in technology, the easier it becomes to do things.

In addition, I am wiring the $100 billion dollars for one Big Brother system.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 07:11
Greetings.

Perhaps we could find a more efficient and reasonable method to do these, in a far more civilized manner. After all, the more advances we make in technology, the easier it becomes to do things.

In addition, I am wiring the $100 billion dollars for one Big Brother system.

President Rand Veristek


"We will ship you the system immediately, and we will also send over eighty advisors who are Department of Thought Police technicians, operatives, and other employees, to help get the system online in an orderly fashion."

Wilhelm Ernst
Momanguise
17-11-2004, 14:36
Sad really, that the despot of Mississipii has to resort to technology to make people obey him. After all, what is wrong with the good old fashioned bayonet? Seriously though, you only need these measures because you are a weak ruler who cannot command the love and respect of his population.

Koda the Eternal
Supreme Ruler of Momanguise
~The Ruin of Ages~
Der Angst
17-11-2004, 15:59
Volcano Island, Former DA (Der Angst)

It had been a while since the cataclysm killed 90% of the population. What followed had been terror, destruction, and general decline.

Yet, Volcano Island was the first of the earth- based territories to regain some sort of 'unity', some sort of 'government'... Some sort of 'sanity'.

Incidentally, unlike most other Entities developing, it was quite loyal to the old, the past, and it considered itself to be Angstian, nothing else.

Nevermind them currently being the only 'true' Angstians in sol...

But that was a secondary issue. For now, the people worked on getting things on Track. Granted, there wasn't overly much industry in the hyperurbanised nightmare of Volcano Island, being the 'Think Tank' of DA it was more concentarted on other things... So, its ressources were quite limited.

Yet, it worked, again, and old capabilities were about to be rebuild, which wouldn't be all that hard... The loss of life had been dramatic, the material damage however was, in fact, quite puny.

And so, information begun to arrive, about the world out there... And of course, this had to result in a lot of snickering.

It is, of course, rather ironic if a nation barely handling external manipulation of the mind begins to operate a thought police, when a nation with approximately 90% psionics doesn't do it. It is, of course, equally amusing when thought crimes are given such a... wide spectrum... Since just about everyone will have such thoughts, some time.

And of course, oppressive regimes tend to develop resistance... But apparently, Mississipians were more like drones, rather than humans. Or so the sixth- graders argued, admittedly in not entirely serious ways.

"Well, I guess most of them escape by bribing, or something like that... I assume that corruption will be rather high."

"Possibly. But then, we don't know for certain."

"Well, one thing is for certain. With the loss of productive capacity due to the regular tests, the thing about the TVs being, uh... Changed, expensive, that..."

"They are bankrupt, yes. Admittedly, one can operate on a deficit... I recall the old government doing that for years."

"True enough. Still... Oh well, it isn't us, and it is apparently somewhat hard to get information about them... I mean information, not their own, ludicrous propaganda."

"Yeah, well... Oh, fuck that, Marie is waiting. Bye."

"Bye."

Overall, it seemed to be a reasonably interesting discussion... Like so many other things. Overall, the world was still a rather interesting place.
Decisive Action
17-11-2004, 16:07
Sad really, that the despot of Mississipii has to resort to technology to make people obey him. After all, what is wrong with the good old fashioned bayonet? Seriously though, you only need these measures because you are a weak ruler who cannot command the love and respect of his population.

Koda the Eternal
Supreme Ruler of Momanguise
~The Ruin of Ages~


"This is due to the recent "Peasant uprising" which was in reality over 90% foreign terrorists, this way we can spot the trouble makers befor they start the trouble. They won't be safe if their own thoughts. It speaks volumes that over 95& of the peasantry sided with me in the crushing of the marxists."

Czar Roger Fabus


Ooc- It's the truth.
Sharina
17-11-2004, 17:35
"We will ship you the system immediately, and we will also send over eighty advisors who are Department of Thought Police technicians, operatives, and other employees, to help get the system online in an orderly fashion."

Wilhelm Ernst

Greetings.

Excellent news. I will be sending one of Sharina's new Aliana-380 planes to pick up your technicians and equipment. The plane is prepared to obey all Mississippian airspace laws and regulations.

Here's two enclosed pictures of the Aliana-380 plane, fully developed and built by Sharina and copyright of Aliana Corporation in Sharina.

http://www.rit.edu/~rxd0205/nationstates/pictures/sharina_A380.jpg

http://www.rit.edu/~rxd0205/nationstates/pictures/sharina_airbus.jpg

The hyper-jumbo jet will be easily able to carry 200 tons of equipment and 1,000 personnel.

Please inform me of any aircraft clearance, regulations, and/or laws in Mississippi. Or you could directly transmit them to the A-380 jet on its way to your nation.

President Rand Veristek
Decisive Action
21-11-2004, 21:20
To Sharina:


"We require that your planes first land at a remote "Security sweeping airport" in rural Tennessee to be cleared for entrance into Mississippi, this is to prevent nuclear terrorism from hitting Mississippi himself. We find it preferable that any WMDs be discovered before they get near major population centers. We hope you understand."


Paul Stahlecker
Doomingsland
21-11-2004, 23:28
"The Department of Thought Police will help interested friendly nations install the "Big Brother Brain Monitoring System" in their intelligence centers, for the price of 100,000,000,000 USD per system (each system can handle 10 people at once) These will only be the "Export version" and will not include some of the super-secret accessories that only special allies can obtain."


Wilhelm Ernst
Official Imperial Response

We are very interested, and will pay the sum of one trillion USD for the installation of ten systems in the eight major cities of Doomingsland, with the capital recieving three systems.
Decisive Action
21-11-2004, 23:43
Official Imperial Response

We are very interested, and will pay the sum of one trillion USD for the installation of ten systems in the eight major cities of Doomingsland, with the capital recieving three systems.


"We will slate the production of the next ten systems to be delivered to you... They will be produced within a week or so, it takes time to produce each system. Then we will program them, which will take four or five weeks, but this will occur in Doomingsland with the help of our technicians and your engineers so we can also train you how to use the machines, is this acceptable?"

Wilhelm Ernst
Sharina
22-11-2004, 02:42
To Sharina:


"We require that your planes first land at a remote "Security sweeping airport" in rural Tennessee to be cleared for entrance into Mississippi, this is to prevent nuclear terrorism from hitting Mississippi himself. We find it preferable that any WMDs be discovered before they get near major population centers. We hope you understand."


Paul Stahlecker

Greetings, Paul Stahlecker.

Thank you for the notification. Does your rural airport have the capacity to service a hyper-jumbo jet neartly twice the size of the Boeing 747?

Our pilots have been notified to land the A-380 at the Tennessee airport assuming it has runaways capable of recieving the jet.

President Rand Veristek

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A extra-large white jetliner began its final approach towards an undisclosed location in rural Tennessee.

A pilot reached out towards a communication console and began hailing the Mississippian control station.

"Greetings. This is Sharina Flight Amar. We are prepared to land for security inspections. Inform us which runaway to land on."
Duztikki
22-11-2004, 02:56
Secure Communique to the Leadership of the Missipian Commonwealth, with effected Thought Police

We appericate and fully adopt your ideas into our current nation to drop Theft and other items even lower. Our government shall begin the surgeries to insert monitoring devices and other devices into the Cerbeal Cortex and/or the brainstem. This is a monitoring process of course. Feel free to hand us some of your technology then we can alter it. It will be paid for.

Authorized, by Ruger Duztikki the Third.

Message sent by, Tiggor Egor


OOC: Watch that second name....;)