NationStates Jolt Archive

Today the Credonian Government has confirmed the launch and detonation of a 25 megaton thermonuclear warhead which took place at 3 pm today. This comes as a number of nations threaten the safety and security of Credonia and her allies abroad. This show of force, authorized by President Kaimoni Sutton, surprisingly does not depart from Credonia's policy towards the use of military force and the introduction of nuclear weapons into combat. When asked whether or not the United States of Credonia would adopt a policy of using nuclear weapons on conventional warfare, President Sutton responded by saying "Today, we live in a day and age when conventional warfare is no longer strong enough to stop or persuade a nation from doing things that oppress others, therefore, we must take a step beyond conventional warfare, and the use of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons are indeed a step beyond the conventional warfare that we see going on today."

There is no indication that the Sutton administration or the Credonian legislature is preparing to make any kind of nuclear posture changes, however, President Sutton has ordered a nuclear posture review to be completed in which he will revise any and all strategic nuclear policies that Credonia has in effect today. More on the development coming soon.

The following are pictures taken of the launch:

Minuteman III missile awaiting launch
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Minuteman III missile shortly after launch
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Missile begining pitch program
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Missile staging
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Missile after booster staging
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Booster engine cut-off and warhead jettison
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Warhead guidance system adjusting trajectory
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View from warhead 2 minutes prior to detonation
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Warhead detonation
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where was it detonated?

The nuclear warhead was detonated safely over Credonian soil at the Credonian Testing Grounds located 120 miles north west of Credonia City, Credonia.

"25 MT? It's... big."

--Gerard Raynor
Regional Conclave Advisor, Special Ambassador

The ANL has distane for the use of nuclear weapons, however, considering the tactical advantage WMDs offer, especially during times of possible conflict, we can not and will not condemn these actions. We only hope such weapons do not have to be used in against another nation/

Was this warhead consructed in your own country, or was it bought?

ooooooh it was just a show, gotcha

Was this warhead consructed in your own country, or was it bought?

Credonia has and will forever design and construct its own weapons of mass destruction. At the present, Credonia has OVER 80,000 nuclear warheads and 40,000 chemical and biological warheads in its current stockpiles, all of which are made of 100% Credonian technology.

After hearing Sutton's doctrine suggesting the introduction of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons into conventional warfare, President Branam released the follow statement.

"Although these days have been trying on us all, and the threats against peaceful nations become increasingly more graphic and violent, the suggested use of nuclear weapons by our ally Credonia has not fallen upon deaf ears. The people and government of Jarridia will not condone, nor will we condemn this doctrine. We do wish that our ally, and all other participating nations will first exercise and exhaust all other forms of diplomacy and options of warfare before using any sort of weapon of mass destruction."

OOC: 25 MT? Dang... and I thought my 23.5 MT TSSM-20 PHOENIX was a bit over-the-top...

OOC:

I thought the USA and Russia developed 50+ MT warheads?

OOC:

I thought the USA and Russia developed 50+ MT warheads?

OOC:
Odd... I thought the newest ICBM in Russian service, the SS-18 SATAN, only had a 20 MT warhead.

Source: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/icbm/r-36m.htm

OOC:

I thought the USA and Russia developed 50+ MT warheads?

OOC: I think it was just Russia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
I use a 25 MT warhead for my FOBS system(which has never been used, but I'm working on a list of my strategic weapons and it will be included).

OOC: theoretically, bombs with yields of 100+ mT are possible, but not feasible. Tsar Bomba would have had a yield of about 100 mT, but the Soviets decided at the last moment to insert fusion dampers which lowered the yield to 50 mT. either way, it made a nice crater in Novaya Zemylya.

You see, the efficiency of a nuclear weapon peaks at around 500 kT. you get the most destructive force for a relatively small amount of fuel. Once you surpass that, the efficiency of the weapon drops exponentially. You need much more fuel to achieve a smaller increase in yield. A 50 mT weapon is effectively useless. Beyond 500 kT all the leftover energy goes into heat rather than blast. What is the point of making a hotter fireball if the blast does not get bigger? 'WE CAN OVEN-FRY YOUR POPULATION WITH OUR SUPR-HOT BOMZ!!1!' Seriously, it's a nuclear fireball; you're already dead. Not to mention that the bombs get majorly fat as they approach the 50 mT range. So big that they... are just... fat.

EDIT- SS-18 isn't the newest. SS-22 is slated to replace the -18.

After hearing Sutton's doctrine suggesting the introduction of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons into conventional warfare, President Branam released the follow statement.

"Although these days have been trying on us all, and the threats against peaceful nations become increasingly more graphic and violent, the suggested use of nuclear weapons by our ally Credonia has not fallen upon deaf ears. The people and government of Jarridia will not condone, nor will we condemn this doctrine. We do wish that our ally, and all other participating nations will first exercise and exhaust all other forms of diplomacy and options of warfare before using any sort of weapon of mass destruction."


OOC: Your facts are a tad bit crossed. The Sutton Doctrine involves sending humanitarian aid on a massive international scale to Africa. This is just a reassertion of Credonian Strategic nuclear policy towards all enemies of the state.

IC:
We assure our allies and all nations of the world that Credonia has and will continue to exhaust all possible peaceful modes of diplomacy before engaging in armed conflict. Conventional nuclear warefare will only be waged if a conflict involving conventional warfare does not seem to be solving any problems that have been presented. (Credonia is currently in a conflict like that with the nation of Acre Union, however, the use of nuclear weapons has been averted for the time being thanks to the efforts of the Credonian government).

OOC: SS-22 was the old NATO designation for the SS-12B (TR-1/8M76) SSM, which was an SS-12 with solid rather than liquid fuel.

As to SS-18, it may be an old missile, but it's still got one hell of an awe-insipring capability about it. I'd envisage the SS-18s remaining in Russian service for the next decade or so, if not maybe a bit longer, depending on how long they can keep them going. Thereafter, however, the Russians will doubtless go over to the SS-25 and (more likely) SS-27 missiles as their primary nuclear deterrent forces.

Sorry to take up space, Credonia. *Departs*

no prob

25 megatons? On a ICBM? WOW!

On a further note. Those big 50 mgt bombs DO have a use. EMP. Now EMP DOES occure when detonated inside the Troposphere, but its range is SO degraded that everything that is affected is blown to smithereens anyways. But when detonated up in the meso/exosphere, the EMP range of, say, a 1mgt bomb is enough to cover the entire northwestern europe. The emp pulse would be so strong that only electronics protected against it would survive. The bigger the bomb the larger the pulse radius and the stronger the range. The only problem is how to get a 50mgt bomb up to that hieght,

OOC:

50 MT can be launched on a Saturn V or Titan rocket, like they use for the Apollo missions.


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IC:

Sharina has no nuclear weapons, and doesn't plan on building any, anytime soon. Sharina believes that nuclear weapons are a massive waste of money and resources, as these weapons do much more harm than benefit. Only idiots would use nukes, as they would destroy the land that they want to conquer or defend.

Sharina might develop other WMD's but of a non-radioactive or non-side-effect type.

President Rand Veristek

Upon hearing this information, the nation of Armandian Cheese would like to pledge undying loyalty to the nation of Credonia. Remind us to never get on your nation's bad side.

OOC:

50 MT can be launched on a Saturn V or Titan rocket, like they use for the Apollo missions.


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IC:

Sharina has no nuclear weapons, and doesn't plan on building any, anytime soon. Sharina believes that nuclear weapons are a massive waste of money and resources, as these weapons do much more harm than benefit. Only idiots would use nukes, as they would destroy the land that they want to conquer or defend.

Sharina might develop other WMD's but of a non-radioactive or non-side-effect type.

President Rand Veristek

Note thate Credonia has never in its history used a nuclear weapon for in an offensive manner.

And commenting on how only idoits would use nukes, an idiot would be someone who uses nukes to destroy a nation they are trying to conquer, however, using nukes to totally annialate (sp?) an enemy isnt exactly idiotic. In fact its smart, so long as you can country any type of nuclear threat they may present and that you dont use too many. :-) Tactical nukes are a much more viable and survivable option on the battlefield and has less wear and tear on the atmosphere as a whole.

Upon hearing this information, the nation of Armandian Cheese would like to pledge undying loyalty to the nation of Credonia. Remind us to never get on your nation's bad side.

No nation has anything to fear from Credonia unless they break an international law or threaten Credonia or her allies. In laymans terms, mind your P's and Q's and everyone's gonna be alright. :cool:

Bump

Tomzillian Secretary of War, Heinreich Hurtner, had this to say, "I hope we don't get on the bad-side of Credonia when they have a weapon of that size."

As was stated earlier, no nation has anything to fear so long as they uphold international laws and do not threaten Credonia or her allies.

The Allied Republics of Anagonia is highly interested in this new show of force from the United States of Credonia. Intern, it is simply requested that a new Relation between Anagonia and Credonia be formed with the soul prospect of advancing Nuclear Strategic Weapons Development.

Anagonia has realized the advantages of Nuclear Weapons in warfare, and will not hender to use a 1 mega-ton Strategic Warhead to decimate an enemies Naval Forces/Ground Forces. However, it is strictly for Anti-Military use on other Nations, not civilian.

(ooc: Nice to see somebody else who had heard of the Orbiter program. :D)

IC:

The Republic of Ancient Terra wishes to formally congratulate Credonia on the successful detonation of a 25 Megaton Thermonuclear Warhead. Terran satellites observed its path from the moment of its launch to its detonation, and several of the scientists assure me the blast was quite spectacular.

~Emperor Kamiya, Leader of Ancient Terra~

The nuclear warhead was detonated safely over Credonian soil at the Credonian Testing Grounds located 120 miles north west of Credonia City, Credonia.

Only 120 miles? Make than 12000 miles to be safer!

The Allied Republics of Anagonia is highly interested in this new show of force from the United States of Credonia. Intern, it is simply requested that a new Relation between Anagonia and Credonia be formed with the soul prospect of advancing Nuclear Strategic Weapons Development.

Anagonia has realized the advantages of Nuclear Weapons in warfare, and will not hender to use a 1 mega-ton Strategic Warhead to decimate an enemies Naval Forces/Ground Forces. However, it is strictly for Anti-Military use on other Nations, not civilian.


We will get back to you soon on your offer

As was stated earlier, no nation has anything to fear so long as they uphold international laws and do not threaten Credonia or her allies.

From: DAVI, Provisional Government
To: Whom it may concern, Credonia
Subject: International Law

"What 'International Law'?"

Sincerely,

~ Miyamoto Kira, head of the provisional government, DAVI

Kira gigled a little as she sent the message. Really, she wasn't aware of any kind of international law agreement being signed by... Well, the vast majority of nations in the world.

Still... Well, she had to ask.

The next issue coming up was lunch.

"Oooo... Sushi."