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AA12 Fully Automatic 12 Guage Shotgun for sale

Armed Military States
14-11-2004, 21:11
Hello everyone,

My arms manufactures, when working with Mid-America Recreation Incorporated, developed a fully auto shotgun that I am selling to military and police personel. The stats below:

Weight: Approximately 10.5 lbs. (unloaded)
Weight w/ loaded 8 round magazine: Approximately 11.25 lbs.
Weight w/ loaded 20 round magazine: Approximately 13 lbs.
Length of Barrel: 18 inches
Caliber/Gage: 12 gage, 2 3/4 inch only
Barrel Bore: Cylinder Bore
Chamber Length: 3/4 inch standard
Operation: Full Automatic and Single Shot
Type of Action: Full Automatic & Single Shot
Feed: Detachable Drum and Box Magazines
Ammunition Capacity: 8 round box, 32 round drum mag.
Type of Firing Mechanism: Open Bolt
Type of Stock: Pistol Grip
Rate of Fire: Approximately 6 rounds per second & 360 rounds per minute.

See our promotional video:
http://vampirebat.com/war/_automaticshotgun.wmv

Design Criteria:

1. Manufactured using corrosion resistant, high impact, heat-treated stainless steels and hi impact plastics.
2. Design facilitates quick and rapid training. Simple, uncomplicated design with a minimum number of large interchangable components. Easy disassembly and assembly.
3. No tools required for field maintenance. No speical tool required for cleaning or higher level maintenance.
4. No complicated control switches, only a 'safe' and 'fire' switch. Location of the safety and magazine release catch is compatible with other weapons in the system.
5. Ability to fire full automatic or consistently controlled single shots through use of the trigger only. Also, can be fired easily using only one hand while maintaining target engagement.
6. Design is low maintenance requiring little or no oils or lubricants.
7. Weapon functions normally for extended periods without service or preventive maintenance. Can be cleaned with soap and water. Cleaning recommended every 2,000 rounds.
8. Due to the design the weapon is virtually jam free.
9. Weapon withstands rough handling and treatment without damage or accidentally firing.
10. Minimum recoil - directly to the rear. Non rising muzzle, maintaining target engagement. Can be operated and fired easily by a small stature person.
11. Wide open manufacturing tolerances. To insure functioning in all operating conditions.
12. Weapon fires from the open bolt, to facilitate cooling, and prevent cook offs. Also, allows water drainage from the barrel after submersion. Ability to fire when magazine is full of water.
13. Large and small, easily loaded, magazines and drums.

Price: $4,000

Thanks for purchasing.
-Regards,
Archon-Prince Vlad Pryde
Luna I
14-11-2004, 21:47
Explosive rounds - then ill be impressed :D
Armed Military States
14-11-2004, 21:51
Very well. For a crate of 5,000 explosive rounds, I'll charge $3,500.
Armed Military States
14-11-2004, 22:09
el bumbado
Bahbland
14-11-2004, 22:44
:eek:





2500 please!


*wiring $10,000,000*
Present Day Comatica
14-11-2004, 23:25
This sounds very appetizing. We shall purchase 5 million of these guns, coming to, I believe, 24 billion. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The money shall be wired when you approve.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 05:28
Very well, money excepted. The first shipments will start departing here for your country, and should be leaving in about 2 days time. They will be shipped from my world to yours, then they will be flown from the nearest drop-port to your airport. Do you each have a suitable airport big enough for a few C-5 Galaxies and Boeing 747 cargo jets? The airline will be AMS Cargo Haul.

Thanks for purchasing.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
15-11-2004, 05:47
It's very nice, but the RoF is far to high for a 12 gauge. I would suggest making it around 1 RPS for that gauge. I think that special ops for today's time period use 20 guage automatic shotguns that fire at 120 RPM. Also, 212 gauge shotguns have too large a recoil to fire at that rate. Of course, I could be wrong, since I am Space Tech...
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 05:52
The recoil is actually pretty low, due to the wieght and design of the gun. As you can see in the video, the recoil is slightly off to the right, but for the most part, the gun comfortably stays on target. Training is highly recommended though, for the use of this gun.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 06:28
bump
New Kiev
15-11-2004, 06:35
^^^I just watched the video, is this thing for real?
Paul-topia
15-11-2004, 06:36
6 rounds per second is perfect if its an automatic 12 gauge... 4000$ you say? and price is americain i beleive?
has this peice seen alot of use? im pretty interested.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 17:44
Yes, it has seen alot of use throughout the world, and everyone who has used it has reported good to excellent results. Many military commanders, soldiers, officers, etc. recommend this shotgun among other automatics, because of it's simplicity of use, high ammo capacity, and durability.

And yes, that is a real video, and the gun is real.
Blacktower
15-11-2004, 18:00
sweet...... jesus...... any idea where I can pick one up in RL?
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 18:06
LOL, the website says only police and military personnel only. But the office can be contacted at: MidAmericaRecInc@aol.com, or (309) 764-5089.

Who knows....maybe you'll get one in RL ;)
Nutropinia
15-11-2004, 18:14
IC: We would like to purchase 2 Million of the Weapons for 8 Billion Dollars.


SIC: I am a man not affliated with the Nutropinian Government. We require utter discretion in this purchase. You need not know who I am. We would like to purchase 1,000 of the weapons. However, we request they be built without any serial number or identifcation whatsoever. We will pay extra for this service.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 18:31
For the 1,000 guns, your total will be $4,000,000. Because they are being sent to an annanymous buyer, before the sale, I require that you sign paperwork releasing my companies and government from ANY and ALL responsibility reguarding these weapons and thier use. Furthermore, because they are being sent to an annanymous buyer, they come w/o a warranty, and they come as is. I can assure you though, that with proper care and maintinence, they will operate just fine.

However, if you decide to provide some proof of purchase, or proof of military backing/use, or proof of police service, then you will not be required to fill out any of the above stated paperwork, except of course, the bill of sale. They will also come with the standard life time warranty.

It's your call.
Nutropinia
15-11-2004, 18:35
SIC: We will release the company of all responsibility and take them with no warranty.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 18:37
Very well. They will be shipped via AMS Air Cargo Haul to your designated location, just as soon as my accountant recieves the wire transfer.
Nutropinia
15-11-2004, 18:46
IC: Money Wired

SIC:Payment is being transferred through 4 banks and shall arrive in One NS Day. Please airdrop the weapons in the forest 5 miles west of Injectopolis, Nutropinia.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 19:01
Will do. They will be dropped via parachute-strapped crates from 2500 feet. Flown in by two 747 Cargo Jets with armed escort. The escort is just a precaution for safety. Do not consider it a hostile action.

Been a pleasure doing business with you.

-Archon Prince Vlad Pryde
Nutropinia
15-11-2004, 19:14
SIC: Do make sure the planes fly in under radar contact.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 19:22
Copy that. The first plane will be designated "Arrow 9 C" and the second plane will be designated "Condor 9 F." What is the allowable altitude for your radars, and how far out do they extend, so that my pilots know when to desend thier planes? Will there also be markers on the ground to indicate where to drop?

The planes will slow to 265 mph when they drop the crates. Do to the extreme speed disadvantages, they will only have one opportunity to drop these crates, or else they will need to pick up speed again and come back around for another run.
Nutropinia
15-11-2004, 19:27
SIC: From information obtained by sources inside the Air Force we have determined the Radar ability to be 1,000 Feet. They extend 50 Miles out from the border. A marker on the ground will be a fire in the shape of a star.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 19:29
Copy that. The planes will fly out at 0600 hours tomorrow morning, and should arrive in three hours time.

Enjoy the purchase.
Tanthan
15-11-2004, 19:48
The Empire of Tanthan will take 12 million of the AA12 Fully Automatic 12 Gauge Shotgun. The total comes to $48 Billion. Money wired upon confirmation. The Law and Order budget is paying for this.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 20:19
Money wired and confirmed. Is there an airport or Drop Port that we may have access to so that we can deliver this appropriately? We figure it's about 12 C-5 Galaxy Plane loads worth of weapons, or two dropships worth.
Tanthan
15-11-2004, 21:07
Of course! The Tanthan Internation Airport will be able to handle all 12 of the planes at once due to the many runways it has.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 21:07
Very well. Shipments schedualed in one week's time.

Enjoy the purchase.
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 21:35
bump
Armed Military States
15-11-2004, 23:00
bump
Armed Military States
16-11-2004, 21:43
bump
Armed Military States
16-11-2004, 23:15
Someone please buy some more fucking shotguns so that I don't have to keep bumping this damn thread.
Armed Military States
17-11-2004, 00:51
bump
Nutropinia
17-11-2004, 01:33
SIC: We are the same buyers who purchased the 1,000 shotguns. We require 200 crates of explosive rounds for a total of 700,000 USD. Money will be wired the same way as before and the rounds should be paradropped in the same manner and at the same location as the shotguns.
Armed Military States
20-11-2004, 19:14
SIC: We are the same buyers who purchased the 1,000 shotguns. We require 200 crates of explosive rounds for a total of 700,000 USD. Money will be wired the same way as before and the rounds should be paradropped in the same manner and at the same location as the shotguns.

Very well, it shall be done. Set to drop in two days time. The same paperwork must be filled out.
Armed Military States
22-11-2004, 05:59
bump (see first page regarding details about gun)
Armed Military States
24-11-2004, 01:57
bump
Armed Military States
06-12-2004, 05:04
bump
Armed Military States
03-01-2005, 19:09
bump
Armed Military States
19-01-2005, 06:17
PPLLLEEEAAASSSEEEE buy more!! I am losing revenue with this damn shit. :P

...bump, by the way....
Armed Military States
29-03-2005, 00:13
Bump (See first page for video and details)
Einhauser
29-03-2005, 00:17
Prove to me that this shotgun is better than the Saiga 12k shotgun im using now, and I will buy them.
Armed Military States
29-03-2005, 00:22
Have you seen the video? Do YOU have the same actual proof? Details regarding your gun? Pictures? Please send...I am interested.
Einhauser
29-03-2005, 00:27
I did not make the Saiga 12k up. Its an actual russian shotgun. Heres a link to info about it: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh07-e.htm. Yes, I have seen the video, and it raises some concerns. The rate of fire is so fast that those smaller clips are too small by far. If i were to purchase this gun, i would need the circular clips.
The Cottonmouth
29-03-2005, 00:28
Eh.. this gun competes with many other F/A shotguns, and Saiga, the Jackhammer, and even some pumps such as the PM-5 and the SPAS-15.
Armed Military States
29-03-2005, 00:38
I would sell to you the Drum magazines that hold 32 rounds. The only downsides that I see to the Russian version is that the AA12 is simpler to use, clean, and take apart. It also has two modes of fire: Semi and Full, whereas the Russian only has semi. This is both a blessing and a burden: care must be used to conserve ammo. But many who have used it do not see this as a problem.

The AA12 also comes with a Drum (32 rounds), whereas the Russian does not. It adds just a bit more wieght, but for the ammount of ammo that you get, it makes up for it considerably. So I guess it's all a matter of what your preferences are and what the specific task calls for.
Armed Military States
06-06-2005, 18:16
bump (see first page for details on gun)