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After a recent poll showing that that 48% nations youth like Rap music.
"You can't spell Crap without rap" said the nations Secratary of Morals, Father Richard Clarke, "it is a degrading form of so called 'entertainment' and that is why we are banning it"
All rap "musicians" are required to dress normal, and to stop rapping, under penalty of law.

The Kingdom of Reichskamphen, in a rare action, sent a personal letter of approval to the Cardinal of Cherry Ridge. While it stated in the clearest terms their disagreements and vowed not to compromise on any of them, it did indeed commend him for his decision to Ban Rap music.

Ravea Applauds your actions, although that does violate freedom of speech. Perhaps you will find a better brand of music for your nation's young people; Might I suggest Jazz as a healthy alternative?

Ravea Applauds your actions, although that does violate freedom of speech. Perhaps you will find a better brand of music for your nation's young people; Might I suggest Jazz as a healthy alternative?
We are providing them with the alternative of Big Band.

We heartily agree with your policy - we have also banned rap as it can barely be called 'music'.

Well, we have found no need to ban it, as our children, with the exception of a few in the poorer areas of Derscon, do not listen to that filth.

On an extremely rare occasion, the Fuhrer decided to personally write a letter to the Cardinal of Cherry Ridge:

Dear Cardinal,
I would just like to let you know, I personally support this act. Rap 'music', if you can even call it that, is degrading to women and anything that is living pretty much. It pollutes good Christian youth into thinking they can walk up to a woman and bluntly demand sexual intercourse. I find your decision to ban this evil very up-lifting and a good ideal for nations to follow.

Sincerely,
Reinhard

~Electronic Communication to Cherry Ridge~
We hereby approve of this action, as we do not find it to be against the Will of Enigma. This is rare, but not unexpected.
-Acting Dictator Moneth
~End Communication~

Slaytanicca frowns on such an oppression of freedom of speech and expression. We also ask what guidelines exist in the classifying of rap music (which, incidently, is s**t) and what measures are being taken to enforce this ban.
Respectfully,
Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

This policy is a clear Violation of Articles 10 and Articles 14 of the Human Rights Act, as supported by the United Nations.

Article 10 : Freedom of Expression

You have the right to hold opinions and express your views on your own or in a group. This applies even in they are unpopular or disturbing.

Article 14 : Prohibition of Discrimination

You have the right not to be treated differently because of your race, religion, politial views or any other status, unless this can be justified objectively.

The Federation of Aligned Planets officially protests this restriction of civil liberties and would urge you to reconsider your decision.

OOC: Uh...he's not in the UN, and therefore is not subject to it's rules.

We will not reconsider this. The rap "artists" if they can even be called artists, must cease and desist within 2 days of hearing this act.
strike 1- fined 1000 dollars
strike 2- fined 2,000 dollars
strike 3- arrested on charge of violating a moral law

OOC: Uh...he's not in the UN, and therefore is not subject to it's rules.
exactly

IC:

We hear you have banned rap music! This is time for celebration, the disrespect to women and authority will end now in your country. There will also be less crime, prostiutes and disrespect from teenagers and young adults. Rap is not singing or really a form of music because take away the background sound and you have a dumb idiot speaking about racist and sexist topics and speaking out at which would not be tolerated in any other context. We hope that you also promote the classics other forms of music that do not destroy the work of civil rights movements of the past. Congratulations once again on stopping the ill diease of morality that currently is infesting the lives of all youths under its spell.

OOC: I never stated that Cherry Ridge was in the UN - I merely stated it was a violation of two Articles.

We will not reconsider this. The rap "artists" if they can even be called artists, must cease and desist within 2 days of hearing this act.
strike 1- fined 1000 dollars
strike 2- fined 2,000 dollars
strike 3- arrested on charge of violating a moral law
So the law only extends to those caught in the act of rapping?

OOC: I never stated that Cherry Ridge was in the UN - I merely stated it was a violation of two Articles.
ooc- I didnt violate them, because I never agreed to them. only UN members have to obey them.

penalties for those caught listening to rap
strike 1- fined 500 dollars
strike 2- fined 1000 dollars
strike 2- arrested on violating a moral law

OOC: Actually for reasons listed and ones which even he would know he has the right to ban it and take action as he sees, Aligned Planets your arguement has in of itself reasons in which even if he was part of the UN to stop it, naming these reasons would easily put a to it.

Siesatia refuses to outright ban rap, but has instituted strict rules on the 'artists'. They are tested for drugs before they record their 'music', if they test positive, the album will not be allowed for distribution, and the artist is forbidden from creating music. Disrespect towards women, men, or any other is prohibited, and any lewd acts on the music videos are prohibited. Cursing is allowed, as long as an advisory is in place. Drug references, unless they are seeking to discourage drugs are also forbidden.

We would again like to lodge our protest at this incomprehensible act. Rap music is part of the diversity of human life and only serves to enhance our own fulfillment. Many could argue that Religion is an unwarranted waste of time, and only serves to fill the minds of citizens with misinformation and lies.

This act of aggression against people in your own State who have done you no harm is horrific and sickening.

Signed,

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets

Buying/selling/owning rap? And the definition of rap is still under question.
Respectfully,
Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

OOC: For the record, Moneth (or Morneth, depending on what mood I am in) is not the standard guy and doesn't really represent the views of the government of DLE.

We would again like to lodge our protest at this incomprehensible act. Rap music is part of the diversity of human life and only serves to enhance our own fulfillment. Many could argue that Religion is an unwarranted waste of time, and only serves to fill the minds of citizens with misinformation and lies.

This act of aggression against people in your own State who have done you no harm is horrific and sickening.

Signed,

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets
official government responce-
Who are you going to lodge a protest with? We are ruled by a Catholic Cardinal, and religion is not a waste of time. They have done harm. They have harmed the youth's brains.
-Department of Morals and foriegn affairs, jointly

Rap music isn't a sign of diversity. It's a sign of disrespect. It is trash. In every rap song I've ever heard, it has a certain four-letter-word every three words. And is refering to rape atleast once, and disrespecting women in atleats every-other sentance. It is nothing but trash and an attempt to gain profit.

Rap, as defined in the dictionary of a country with a rudimentary grasp of English, is :-

is one of the elements of hip hop; it is a form of rhyming lyrics spoken rhythmically over musical instruments, with a musical backdrop of sampling, scratching and mixing by DJs. Originally rapping was called MCing and was seen as supporting the DJ.

We fully support Cherry Ridge- Rap is crap that---

A. Degenerates the English language
B. Sanctions violence toward women
C. Sanctions violence as a means of getting what you want
D. Corrupts minds with the damn "hip-hop culture"

Kaiser Alec Mannerheim

My wife and I banned wiggetry about 3 months ago. Expect an announcment from us soon about rap music.

King MacDonald

I am lodging my protest first and foremost with you, Cherry Ridge, for this inhumane treatment of your own citizens. I am also appealing to any decent Nation, who believes as I do that people have the RIGHT to listen to their choice of music, to also lodge a protest against your actions.

Penalties for playing rap "music" or DJing it
strike 1- fined 1000 dollars
strike 2- fined 2,000 dollars
strike 3- arrested on charge of violating a moral law

Caught listening to or in possession of rap albums
strike 1- fined 500 dollars
strike 2- fined 1000 dollars
strike 2- arrested on violating a moral law

Rap music isn't a sign of diversity. It's a sign of disrespect. It is trash. In every rap song I've ever heard, it has a certain four-letter-word every three words. And is refering to rape atleast once, and disrespecting women in atleats every-other sentance. It is nothing but trash and an attempt to gain profit.


IC: In a rare agreement we SUPPORT his belief in this, rap is a universal problem in which only those under its brainwashing effects believe in it.

Okay, I'll agree that most of rap released today is complete and utter crap, but what about indy music? What about hip-hop beat? What about funk-electronica? In short, I think you are making generalizations. I do agree, however, that you should ban artists like eminem and 50 cent (and perhaps have them executed as well), but please...leave my buck 65 and UFO alone please!

I fully agree with Sevaris. If you agree with, listen to, or don't support the banning of rap. Then you are as good as the people, if not worse than the people who think violence against women is alright, think rape is alright, and think that degrading language is f*cking peachy.

I am lodging my protest first and foremost with you, Cherry Ridge, for this inhumane treatment of your own citizens. I am also appealing to any decent Nation, who believes as I do that people have the RIGHT to listen to their choice of music, to also lodge a protest against your actions.
Foriegn Affairs Foriegn protests department's responce:
PROTEST REJECTED

Holy Paradise commends the banning of rap.

You banned rap music?? Ok..... i thought such a state as yours was above banning arts, and just because you dont like something, you crushed many peoples lives. Shame on you! (Now i sent my assassins on you, lol).

:sniper:

After an emergency meeting of the Federation Council, we are appalled at your decision to continue with this farsical attempt to ban rap. You will never succeed - you will only ensure that more people listen to it, as it will have become something secretive, and illegal.

The Federation of Aligned Planets would also like to extend to any supporter of Rap music in your State (and any other) a safe haven, free from heretical persecution where you can listen to your music as often as you like. Our borders are open to you.

Signed,

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets

You banned rap music?? Ok..... i thought such a state as yours was above banning arts, and just because you dont like something, you crushed many peoples lives. Shame on you! (Now i sent my assassins on you, lol).

:sniper:
assassins IGNORED.

After an emergency meeting of the Federation Council, we are appalled at your decision to continue with this farsical attempt to ban rap. You will never succeed - you will only ensure that more people listen to it, as it will have become something secretive, and illegal.

The Federation of Aligned Planets would also like to extend to any supporter of Rap music in your State (and any other) a safe haven, free from heretical persecution where you can listen to your music as often as you like. Our borders are open to you.

Signed,

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets
Cherry Ridge borders have been closed to Aligned Planets.

OOC: You dare turn this into a Rap War by taking action against him for this!? Can you say smoking crator?

IC: The problems of rap must end now and be erradicated from all countries in order to protect the people and ourselves from going into a bleak future of disrespect and crimes against women and authority.

ooc: Ironic that this debate is being held beneath a banner for a grand theft auto game...

You banned rap music?? Ok..... i thought such a state as yours was above banning arts, and just because you dont like something, you crushed many peoples lives. Shame on you! (Now i sent my assassins on you, lol).

:sniper:

Rap music IS NOT art. It's absolute crap.

Oh, and thank you Tanthan for your support. One fruit basket and bible for you. (That was semi-occ XD)

I think that you as people can not tell a person how they need to live their life in thier homes such as telling them as such that they can not listen to rap music that is just saying that you are a bad leader and you are trying to say that rap music influences on children but that is not true and i think thta you guys should reconsider about letting them liten to rap music instead of banning it


sincerely, The Commenwealth of Irelandville :confused:

(Added to items list (seriously lol, under gifts section))

All forms of government sure do ban together to get rid of a low and poorly form of expression that spreads not only crime, but the breakdown of social order.

FOR THE LAST TIME... we will NOT reconsider.
-Department of Foriegn Affairs

In recognition of the closure of borders between Cherry Ridge and Aligned Planets, the Federation Council today declared a State of Emergency.

All diplomatic envoys have been recalled from Cheery Ridge, and troops have been redeployed to protect our interests along the border.

All citizens are advised to take special care during these dangerous times.

And hey, I also think that it's hypocritical to just ban rap when there's other things, such as hard rock, that have lyrics and themes that are just as bad, if not worse, than rap. Yet again, no generalizations. I'm not saying all hard rock is bad, I'm just saying that bands like say...slipknot...should be banned.

IC: Your actions are aggressive in your first-strike attempt! We offically declare war on the uneducated and apparently aggressive nation of Aligned Planets!



--------------at sea-------------
Ten large missile cruisers turn towards Aligned Planets to attack and annex them for the common good of all nations against crime and morality collaspe.

ooc-Aligned planets-You never had any diplomats in my nation.
IC- Aligned Planets-
Why did you declare a state of emergency? We never threatened you, but we will NOT allow criminals to leave our nation. DO not even think of a declaration of war.
-Department of Foriegn Affairs and War

IC: Your actions are aggressive in your first-strike attempt! We offically declare war on the uneducated and apparently aggressive nation of Aligned Planets!



--------------at sea-------------
Ten large missile cruisers turn towards Aligned Planets to attack and annex them for the common good of all nations against crime and morality collaspe.
ooc-You better leave me a piece. I am not joining the war until he attacks me.

OOC: I think my new missiles will take care of his nation....immoblize the population or kill them....but I want to take everything I can from them!


IC

A lone spy satellite looks down on Aligned Planets from high above, gathering all information on military and national defenses.

Rap..is one of the elements of hip hop; it is a form of rhyming lyrics spoken rhythmically over musical instruments, with a musical backdrop of sampling, scratching and mixing by DJs. Originally rapping was called MCing and was seen as supporting the DJ.
We in Slaytanicca are aware of this, and were simply attempting to point out the problems in a ban of what is essentially a fuzzy set, with subjectivity involved in its definition.

OOC - I have not made a first strike, as I said - I am merely protecting my own territorial interests by transporting troops to the border lands.

IC - Cherry Ridge - you have threatened ALL free lands by your blatant disregard for the rights of your own citizens; who knows what your next step will be in your quest to suppress your own people?!

Tanthan - Any aggressive action against this State, or its Government, will be met by the deadliest force.

OOC: Great. A war against a nation I agree with on one issue just started.

OOC - Tanthan, I use future tech - just so you're aware (not threatening or anything, just in case you want to make an RP out of this or whatever)

OOC: Ugh. I would join the fight and aid Cherry Ridge, but I can tell this war is going to go to hell in a handbasket right quick.

If it survives as a decent RP, I'll help out, CR.

Otherwise, good luck.

Tanthan,
Intelligence suggests the ten cruisers of your navy which
have abruptly changed course may be headed toward
the peaceful nation of Alligned Planets. We respectfully
ask the intention of such an action.
Respectfully,
Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

OOC: The assassins are called an attack, and since you didn't add j/k and he even put they were ignored we called it an attack.

IC:

Bombers take off from Tanthan's Airbases, 100 B-52's escorted by 200 F-22 Raptors, spread out to act as the first wave of airstrikes on the small nation of Aligned Planets.

OOC - interesting debate, I'm enjoying it - but way too tired to continue tonight!

Hey, us at plaid zone are with aligned planets for once! Your empire is making generalizations, and though I can't agree completely with either side of the issue, I believe that your compromising of personal freedom is wrong, and thus, if any hostile action is taken against aligned planets from any of your parties, I will step in to defend them.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7471113#post7471113post7471113
WAR ON ALIGENED PLANETS

The Dominion applauds the decision by Cherry Ridge to ban the degrading tripe that is Rap Music. The Dominion itself has previously taken measures to crack down on such musical travesties.

Multiple references to Stripping, "Getting me some Bitches", Poppin' Caps, Mary Jane, so on and so forth, are NOT music, they are inciting civil unrest, and we will NOT have public disturbances in our domain.

And as such, we commend the Cherry Ridge action against rap and its proponents.

On another note, we feel it necessary to notify Aligned Planets that if it does not back down on this aggressive policy towards Cherry Ridge, the Dominion will have to notify GEDRA of this incident of an FT nation commencing an unprovoked attack upon an MT nation, and take action as the situation warrants.

Back Down. Now.

OOC: running from a battle which YOU started, that's low.

OOC: What just happened?

Encrypted Transmission:

From: President, FAP
To: Plaid zone

We urgently require assistance; we are currently enjoying a National Holiday and the majority of our armed forces are on leave with their families. The troops we have still on active duty are patrolling the border between Cheery Ridge and Aligned Planets.

If an attack occurs on our State, we will suffer HEAVY civilian casualties as the majority of our populace are celebrating our 450th Anniversary of the Federation's Constitution.

Any and All Assistance would be appreciated.

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets

'Yo bitch!' exclaims Aumanii youth Adavar Rasmuth, picking at his bright yellow track suit jacket. 'Banning rap music is Bo' shit, you be downin' on yo' peoples right to musical expression 'n shit. I fink all ya'll should ban something shitty ass like Classical music...Who da' fuck listens to classical music anyway? A bunch of uptight ol' skeeza's dats who. And that Metal shit? WHAT DA FU...' the youth is cut off suddenly as police officers capture him in a choke hold and beat him for public indecency and generally having poor taste.

Encrypted Transmission:

From: President, FAP
To: Plaid zone

We urgently require assistance; we are currently enjoying a National Holiday and the majority of our armed forces are on leave with their families. The troops we have still on active duty are patrolling the border between Cheery Ridge and Aligned Planets.

If an attack occurs on our State, we will suffer HEAVY civilian casualties as the majority of our populace are celebrating our 450th Anniversary of the Federation's Constitution.

Any and All Assistance would be appreciated.

Chmhayak Vosneh
President, Federation of Aligned Planets

WE DO NOT share a border. CLosing the borders means we will not allow immigration or authorize passports to your nation.

Though Takuma does not agree with Cherry Ridge's policies of banning Rap music (OOC: I'm not a fan, but that does infringe of rights; IC: ), we, as well as any nations from Balkania, are willing to join your attack on Aligned Planets. [Edit: Who is obviously a n00b, probably thinks he has n00ks too! ;)]