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Conflict history:

Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Drabikstani Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (DSFSR) declared independence and was renamed the People's Federated Republic of Drabikstan. However, the country retained its communist government and state-controlled economy. Drabikstan's ruling Communist Party, under the leadership of President Vladan Mikulas, changed its name to the Democratic Socialist Party of Drabikstan (DSPD) in 1992 and the nation's first elections were held later that year. The 1992 elections were considered unfair by the international community with the DSPD re-elected by a huge margain.

In 1996, ethnic tensions flared into armed conflict between Drabikstan's federated provinces. The impoverished province of Dnever, comprised of a predominately ethnic-Dneveren population (about 90%), rebelled against Drabikstani control. In response, the federal government in the capital Skesperance (later renamed Kibardograd in 2001) imposed an economic blockade and threatened military action. Although the ethnic Dneverens were the majority within Dnever, they were the minority within the Drabikstan Republic. Hence Muslim Dneverens were politically dominated by an ethnically Drabikstani (predominately Christian) government.

In 1997, Drabikstan sent military forces into Dnever to bring the rebel province back under federal control. A fierce air and land campaign was launched against the province. Although the Drabikstani leadership demanded the military show restraint to prevent mass civilian casualities, rogue elements within the underfunded Drabikstani military used heavy handed tactics against Dneveren villages. In retaliation, the Dnever Liberation Army (DLA) launched a terrorist campaign with the goal of creating an independent state, free of Drabikstani control. The DLA grew rapidly; recruits flocked to their ranks and gained access to thousands of weapons, allegedly supplied by Islamic countries. With separatism dividing the nation and the economy in decline, Mikulas' leadership grew increasingly authoritarian with the cancellation of 1997 federal elections.

The refusal to accept a UN peace plan resulted in economic sanctions being placed upon Drabikstan in 1998. By March 1998, guerrilla warfare and terrorism attacks by the DLA rebels had worn down the Drabikstani federal military. As Drabikstani casualties mounted, public opinion turned against the war and Drabikstan agreed to a ceasefire in April 1998, but without settlement of political issues. The federal government urgued all ethnic Drabikstanis to flee the Dnever province later that year.

The withdrawel of federal forces created a power vacuum in Dnever which resulted in criminal elements surfacing and local clans fighting for power. Drabikstan continued its blockade against Dnever with the province remaining cut off from the outside world. After consolidating political power, the DLA officially declared Dnever to be an independence and sovereign state in November 1998. However, no foreign nation accepted Dnever's declaration. Drabikstan claimed this was a cease-fire breach and launched another air campaign against Dnever's capital, Sadjaza. Ballistic missiles imported from North Korea were used against Dneveren population centers. However, the Drabikstani government decided against re-deploying ground troops fearing another brutal guerrilla war. In early 1999, the UN threatened intervention if the bombardment did not end.

In February 1999, an internal government revolt against President Mikulas forced him to resign. Foreign Minister Xer Kibard assumed the Presidency pledging reform and a peaceful solution to the Dnever conflict. Another UN-backed cease fire agreement was signed in March. However, in was again broken in August 1999 with the DLA launching more terrorist attacks against Drabikstan in response to the execution of several high ranking DLA members by the Drabikstani military. The federal government responded with another bombing campaign.

However, by this time, Drabikstan's economy was in heavy decline with the government needing to find a long-term solution. In October 1999, the Drabikstani province of Naxivan announced it was also seeking to secede from the federation. Facing the disintergration of the country, President Kibard decided to accept a UN peace plan and allow Dnever and Naxivan to vote on their future in a referendum. Both provinces voted to secede in March 2000 and the People's Federated Republic of Drabikstan ceased to exist. It was replaced by the Republic of Dnever, the Republic of Naxivan and the People's Republic of Drabikstan.

Despite the eventual peaceful resolution to the conflict, problems continued in the region. While Naxivan developed into a prosperous and democratic nation, Dnever suffered from post-independence instability. Once gaining independence, Dnever was ravaged by internal conflicts as different factions of the DLA attempted to gain power. Radical hardline factions wanted to turn Dnever into an islamic state. Civil war broke out in Dnever later that year.

Despite the decision to concede large parts of territory, Drabikstan's economy improved due to the removal of UN sanctions. However, President Kibard refused to relinquish the autocratic powers he had assumed from former president Mikulas. Instead of moving back towards democracy, he continued to sustain the military and secret service apparatus that had been created to combat the DLA. In 2001, Kibard renamed the capital to Kibardograd to signify what he called "a new national identity."

By 2004, the civil war in Dnever had resulted in the creation of a hardline islamic government. In response, Drabikstan began secretly funding democratic movements in Dnever. Tensions increased between the two as a result. Dnever's President Lithnu Tzu claimed 'communist imperialists' in Drabikstan were attempting to overthrow his islamic government.

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CURRENT NEWS:

UPDATE!!!

9 November, 2004

An explosion has ripped through the Palace of Dneveren President Lithnu Tzu. The president of Dnever has been confirmed dead. Anarchy has erupted throughout Dnever as political instability has reached extreme levels. A renewed civil war is in progress as opposition factions attempt to overthrow the islamic government. Explosions and gunfire have been reported in the capital Sadjaza.

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Outrageous! Absoloutly outrageous! Sovieten will not stand for such treatment of any nation, regardless of government and religion. This is intolerable. Sovietens forces, however minimal, are mobilising to intervene.

Outrageous! Absoloutly outrageous! Sovieten will not stand for such treatment of any nation, regardless of government and religion. This is intolerable. Sovietens forces, however minimal, are mobilising to intervene. We shall only intervene if the conflict spills over the border into our nation.

you should have no difficulty containing the problem. Your military has no requirment to storm into the nation, merely keep its conflicts from spreading, which can be kept to the borders. Dnever's problems are not your concern, and if you do intervene, its people will not simply lie down before you.

"So, why should we take Dnever for a colonial province?" Gaius Serpetius, High Imperator of Dimmimar enquired to the mriad and motley crew of advisors that stood before him.

"Well, your excellency" A man answered from the back. "The Dimmimaran people need a victory, to show that a new leader will give Dimmimar victories on the international front.

"Ah, but would'nt that tarnish our already terrible reputation?"

"What reputation!" A big, burly man chortled from the front, his comment accompanied by waves of hysteric laughter.

"SILENCE!" Gaius screamed. "I will not be laughed at by a gang of riff-raff and pinkoes like your collective selves, mobilize the forces, carte blanche authority of course"

"Yes, your excellency" The man at the back said in tones of varying glee.

The crowd dispersed quickly, laughing about the day. How dare they insult him!? How dare they insult the man that single-handedly brought Dimmimar to it's current type of government. Notwithstanding that fool Isilon. But as all things happen, they must inevitably come to a grinding, painful end...


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The skies over international waters, 50 miles from Dnever airspace:

The 60 Polaris-x=67 troop-air carriers maintained a steady speed. They contained some 4000 Dimmimaran special forces, the IDA [Imperial Dimmimaran Army] had mobilized. Their troops carried state-of-the-art weaponry and dum-dum bullets were standard issue. brtual shock troops, they disimembered and wreaked havoc on the enemy, using psychological warfare to the extreme. With 50 miles to go, the IDA forces sped towards Dnerver...

The DLA are terrorists who have killed thousands of our people. A DLA government is like Al Qaeda forming government in a nation that borders your own.

If we decide to act, it will be to defend our national security. The DLA must be removed from power by any means nessecary.

The Empire of Kangsburg will send in troops for humanitarian purposes in the spirit of the UN, with permission.

***OFFICIAL RESPONCE***
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom is undergoing a major overhaul with it's military forces. After all our Naval Vessels, Land Vehicles, Air Force, and Infantry have been reassigned and are in a stable working environment again, we will probably make ready a deployment of troops as a peacekeeping force. We will be keeping a tight eye on this regoin from now on.

Mr. Shaz Bot, Emporer
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom

Minister Craig Davis
Minister of Defence

In cooperation with Drabikistan. The world must be made into a "safer place".

We will be sending in a a battalion of 1500 Imperial Marines. With medical battalion of 1000 men.

"So, why should we take Dnever for a colonial province?" Gaius Serpetius, High Imperator of Dimmimar enquired to the mriad and motley crew of advisors that stood before him.

"Well, your excellency" A man answered from the back. "The Dimmimaran people need a victory, to show that a new leader will give Dimmimar victories on the international front.

"Ah, but would'nt that tarnish our already terrible reputation?"

"What reputation!" A big, burly man chortled from the front, his comment accompanied by waves of hysteric laughter.

"SILENCE!" Gaius screamed. "I will not be laughed at by a gang of riff-raff and pinkoes like your collective selves, mobilize the forces, carte blanche authority of course"

"Yes, your excellency" The man at the back said in tones of varying glee.

The crowd dispersed quickly, laughing about the day. How dare they insult him!? How dare they insult the man that single-handedly brought Dimmimar to it's current type of government. Notwithstanding that fool Isilon. But as all things happen, they must inevitably come to a grinding, painful end...


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The skies over international waters, 50 miles from Dnever airspace:

The 60 Polaris-x=67 troop-air carriers maintained a steady speed. They contained some 4000 Dimmimaran special forces, the IDA [Imperial Dimmimaran Army] had mobilized. Their troops carried state-of-the-art weaponry and dum-dum bullets were standard issue. brtual shock troops, they disimembered and wreaked havoc on the enemy, using psychological warfare to the extreme. With 50 miles to go, the IDA forces sped towards Dnerver... The government of Drabikstan is watching your moves with great interest.

We believe a long-term occupation of Dnever is neither viable nor legal under international law. Your forces would face a quagmire situation and the wrath of the international community. However, the removal of the DLA from power and the installation of a regime friendly to our interests should be our prime objective at this time.

If you wish to directly intervene, we would welcome some consultation first. However, we advise against attempting to annex a sovereign nation as part of a larger neo-imperialistic agenda.

- Drabikstani Foreign Ministry

In cooperation with Drabikistan. The world must be made into a "safer place".

We will be sending in a a battalion of 1500 Imperial Marines. With medical battalion of 1000 men. We believe we can, as they say, kill two birds with one stone. Firstly, we can remove the terrorist threat posed by the DLA and also rebuild wartorn Dnever as part of a humanitarian mission.

Drabikstan will be prepared to act with firm allies by our side.

REUTERS The first installment of crack special forces Imperial Marines have now boarded onto aircraft carriers, on high alert, on their way to Dnever. The Imperial Marines have been place under strict rules of engagement.

From the Office of the Foreign Ministry of His Imperial Service

Sovieten will engage any troops moving into Dnever. We have one squadron of troops and a URAL truck on the main road of the eastern border.

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"God damn it!" Grunted Dmitri, tugging at the stuck clip in his AK74. Larosov laughed at him, the sound carrying to the front of the truck.
"Shut up!" shouted the lieutenant. "If you can't keep your damn gun clean, Lukin, you shouldn't whine to the rest of us! We engage the Kangsburg aggressors in just twenty minutes, and we're only one squad! So get your damn gun working Lukin, or i'll personally ensure that you have great difficulty with women in the near future!"
The squad laughed, and Dmitri struggled on with his rifle.

Drabikstani aircraft fly over Dneverian territory

- DRABIKSTANI SOCIALIST NEWS SERVICE

Kibardograd - The government has just confirmed Drabikstani MiG-25s have been involved in reconnaissance missions over Dneverian territory during the last twenty-four hours. The government spokesman said the flights were intended to assess the situation on the ground, not provoke an international incident. Reports from inside Dnever indicate anti-DLA forces have captured several key towns outside the capital. The government spokesman also said Drabikstan is in the process of consulting its communist and non-communist allies about the Dnever crisis.

Crack Imperial Marines have landed near the capital of Dnever. 3 Merkava tanks are on their way by heli transport. The medical battalion has now setup camp.

The Imperial Marines clean their AK47. The snipers clean their 0.303 Lee-Enfields. The rules of engagement was not made public.

Sovieten will engage any troops moving into Dnever. We have one squadron of troops and a URAL truck on the main road of the eastern border.

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"God damn it!" Grunted Dmitri, tugging at the stuck clip in his AK74. Larosov laughed at him, the sound carrying to the front of the truck.
"Shut up!" shouted the lieutenant. "If you can't keep your damn gun clean, Lukin, you shouldn't whine to the rest of us! We engage the Kangsburg aggressors in just twenty minutes, and we're only one squad! So get your damn gun working Lukin, or i'll personally ensure that you have great difficulty with women in the near future!"
The squad laughed, and Dmitri struggled on with his rifle. As a fellow socialist nation, we urge the government of Sovieten to prevent a conflict erupting. We call for immediate talks between Drabikstan, Sovieten and Kangsburg before the crisis in Dnever worsens. We don't want to see a major war on our doorstep.

- Drabikstani Foreign Ministry

In height of recent escalations, the Government of His Imperial Service of Kangsburg will agree to a triumvirate talks between the 3 parties.

From the Imperial Foreign Ministry:

There has been a skirmish between a band of approximately 15 men and the medical staff of the Imperial forces.

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All 15 men of the band were liquidated. However, 1 staff physician and 2 orderlies have been reported killed. 2 Imperial Marines were wounded.

Drabikstan's foreign ministry is enquiring into the identity of the attackers. Does your government have any information as of yet?

If any further hostile action is reported in the area, we can dispatch MiG-27 ground-attack aircraft to liquidate any insurgents.

The Imperial Foreign Ministry reports:

All 15 attackers had no uniform. All were armed with AK74s. Asiatic in appearance with some Caucasian. We demand answers.

OOC: it would be better if you RPed the attacks. Not just say they happened.

IC:
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom is debating in the Parliment on what to do about this issue. We may not speak for the United Nations but we do speak for ourselves when we say that the best way to stop this conflict is to isolate the area in question. Attacking the area will only result in more widespread bloodshed and more loss of life.

The emporer has officially declared that Shazbotdom will remain neutral in this conflict. We will not side with anyone and we will give humanitarian aid to those who need it regardless of their religious or ethnic affiliation.

The Empire has Spoken

The Imperial Marines begin their march onto the capital. They do not march toward the eastern border to avoid a confrontation with Sovieten. Captain Kim began to advance from 1 village to another with his marines with the aid of 2 tanks and supporting infantry. However, the people began to shoot ...

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and the marines had no choice but to shoot back with expert skill
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The troops had a mission, to enter the capital city on a humanitarian mission.

The people were angry ...

while Colonel Wilhelm began to look to the east, eyeing it warily lest an attack by Sovieten was imminent.

The Imperial Foreign Ministry reports:

All 15 attackers had no uniform. All were armed with AK74s. Asiatic in appearance with some Caucasian. We demand answers. It seems foreign fighters are already in Dnever. We shall investigate further.

Telefax Message from Lasatanian Foreign Office:


Sirs,

Given our nation's previous action in the region, we would be willing to again deploy troops and aircraft to aid your nation. Should you require our assistance, please let us know at the first possible opportunity so that we can draw up a deployment list.


Komrade Ilyenov,

Overseas Office.

2 tanks and a company of men have begun on the dusty track to the capital of Dnever. We will fight anyone who gets in our way.

Got a problem? Go tell it to the MARINES!

"Our source's have highlighted a very real probability of Drabkistani involvement in the latest incident's in Dnever." said Nikita Oprenokov, Director of the BISS [Bureau for Intelligence and State Security] to President and General Secretary Sean Matthews.

"Having already achieved total economic disruption and undermining the stability of the fledgling state, the Drabikstani's now seek to strike the final, fatal blow. They're forces will ultimately run riot over Dnever, most likely using humanitarian intervention as an excuse." he continued to Matthews, his facial expressions demonstrating how very shocked and appalled he was.

"Send a message to the Drabikstani's, one that they cannot ignore..." replied Matthews. Already, that message was being relayed from a command level to a operational level, from Intelligence officer to Air Force Commander's. And after that, from F-16s of the HAFs 113th Tactical Strike Sqn of Sekula AFB to Drabkistan. They would make an indiscriminate strike within hours.

Relent your pressure on Dnever or face further action.

Emperor Alexei reclined on his throne, a half eaten turkey leg in one hand, a large glass of wine in the other. Drool slid from the corner of his mouth and dripped onto his chest. When he spoke, bits of meat flew from his mouth to land on his prominent stomach.

Chancellor Dmitri Rubellai knelt before him, a gesture of reverance to his obese lord. He spoke, his words smooth, their tone like liquid gold, flowing from his lips to the tin ears of the Emperor.

"Your grace, the situation is indeed most interesting."

"Situation! What situation!? Why don't you people tell me these things!?"

"My liege, you were given the report not a half hour ago."

"Bah! You damn fools give me enough reports to stuff my mattress with. And that's exactly what I aim to do with them! Worthless garbage..."

"Sir, this may prove an intriguing opportunity for the Empire."

"How so? Another one of your bloody hairbrained schemes Rubellai?"

The Emperor took a large bite from the turkey leg, and began to slobber over the raw bone, licking it clean.

"If it pleases you grace, I have an idea that would prove quite beneficial to the overall world situation regarding Imperial aims."

"Feh. Take it up with the Generals. I have more important things to do, like tending to my harem. There are some new Ukrainian girls come in from the province that I need to taste."

"Yes, your grace. They are indeed an exceptional addition."

The Emperor paused from his gluttony and stared at the Chancellor.

"How would you know."

"Oh, well lord, um, because your grace said so."

The Emperor's expression lightened and he proceeded to drain the wine glass.

"Of course! What was I thinking."

He cast the raw turkey bone onto the floor and looked at the Chancellor.

"Are you still here? Get back to work!"

"Yes, your grace."

The Chancellor bowed deeply, and left the Imperial throne room.

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"Dnever? Never heard of it."

"It was big in the news a few years ago."

"Yes, yes, I remember that. The Muslim fanatics, correct Chancellor?"

"Yes. It would seem as if a civil war is splitting the country among the different factions."

"And you aim to exploit the situation?"

"I believe that we may profit greatly from prolonging this civil unrest, through arms deals among the different factions of course, and also the possibility to undermine a filthy communist state."

"Drabikistan? I thought they recognized Dneverian independence, from what the briefing said anyway."

"They do, but how good can it be for them to have a radical government on their border?"

"True, true. Why, if we're lucky, the civil war could spread to that nation as well!"

"Exactly."

"And how would you aim to do what you propose? I assume we're not going to commit a full military offensive."

"Of course not. That would be madness. I believe this may be a job for the Black guard."

"Yes, the guard, by all means. Unmarked Black operations specialists would do a marvelous job of prolonging the bloodshed."

"My thoughts exactly, plus we keep our hands clean. So what say you generals?"

The shadows nodded their heads and glanced around at the others gathered around the dark conference table.

"Splendid idea."

"Yes, yes, very much so."

"Excellent, than we must begin immediately. General Stoyanovich, send the word to Colonel Graccho. Operation: Voodoo Sun begins immediately."

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Of the coast of Snever, twelve unmarked black helicopters came in over the black waves. The moon was nonexistent, and so were the men inside the choppers. They were members of the Black Guard all, the elite of the Imperial Praetorian Guard, and members of a special, mostly illegal, unit of the Imperial military. They bore no markings, and their identities had all been destroyed upon their acceptance of the position as Black Guardsmen. most were clinically diagnosed as mentally unstable, psycho and sociopaths that the Imperial military command saw as the answer to their problems where a solution not exactly orthodox was required. They were ghosts, assigned to perform the most sensitive of the Empire's duties, and they did so quite successfully. Tonight, they would seek to perform one more duty for their Emperor and Generia.

The choppers coasted in over the beach, and descended to the beach. The wraiths, twelve from each chopper, landed silently on the sands. They checked their XM-8 assault rifles, slung them over their shoulders, and drew the more compact Generian made GR-101 special forces rifles.

The wraiths moved quickly off the shore as the choppers rose up and flew off over the black waters from whence they had come.

The Black Guard had come to Dnever.

Matthews and Oprenokov were still in-discussion when word filtered through that the Macabee's had entered the fray, and were planning to add Dnever to it's long list of military conquest's.

"I'm afraid the situation has escalated." said Oprenokov in a somber tone. "Yes, somewhat escalated." Matthews replied disapprovingly. Neither spoke for a moment or two as they assessed the new developments. "Now, we can either throw our hat into the already vulture-packed-arena, or abandon Dnever to a fate of oppression, choas and bloodshed." Matthews said, rising from his chair and moving graciously to the window.

He stood silently but omnipotently, staring without any direction onto the city of Warsaw. "When the going get's wierd, the wierd turn pro." said Oprenokov, and despite the gravity of affairs, both men started to laugh.

"This is going to be nothing but a debacle and blunder for everyone involved. There must be more than six military forces in, around, or preparing to join in the conflict. We have enough on our plate without stepping into this quagmire." Matthews said, Oprenokov nodding in consent with the apparent grim reality. "We shall keep our eye on this one, and let us wait before considering further actions."

[OOC: Yes Macabees, but how did your aircraft carriers suddenly arrive near Drabikstan, inter-dimensional portal I presume? Please allow for travel time - usually 1 or 2 months, which calculates to 1 or 2 RL days, but whatever system you follow yourself is fine.]

OOC: Actually, how the hell do you know that I didn't have a task force in the area? Well in any case - what would be the point of me RPing my task force leaving? They wouldn't know about it (I doubt they would have pulled the sattelite move) - and it would have wasted valuable RPing time.... this makes it much faster, and the end results are the same.

"Our source's have highlighted a very real probability of Drabkistani involvement in the latest incident's in Dnever." said Nikita Oprenokov, Director of the BISS [Bureau for Intelligence and State Security] to President and General Secretary Sean Matthews.

"Having already achieved total economic disruption and undermining the stability of the fledgling state, the Drabikstani's now seek to strike the final, fatal blow. They're forces will ultimately run riot over Dnever, most likely using humanitarian intervention as an excuse." he continued to Matthews, his facial expressions demonstrating how very shocked and appalled he was.

"Send a message to the Drabikstani's, one that they cannot ignore..." replied Matthews. Already, that message was being relayed from a command level to a operational level, from Intelligence officer to Air Force Commander's. And after that, from F-16s of the HAFs 113th Tactical Strike Sqn of Sekula AFB to Drabkistan. They would make an indiscriminate strike within hours.

Relent your pressure on Dnever or face further action.

The dull, grey headquarters of the Drabikistani People's Intelligence Bureau (PIB) hid the tension that was mounting at a top level briefing inside the complex. PIB Chief Yuri Sinitsin sat around a round table with his collegues discussing the growing crisis in Dnever.

"What kind of delusional individuals are running Hrstrovokia?" Sinitsin asked rhetorically. "Do they want war over a failed state?"

Intelligence reports had indicated Hrstrovokia was preparing for military action. The report was however inconclusive on whether this action was aimed at Dnever or Drabikstan itself.

"If the president toned down his rhetoric about eliminating the DLA, the international community wouldn't be blaming us for Dnever's instability," Svetlena Chermenko stated.

"Kibard has staked his political survival on fighting the DLA," Sinitsin replied. "The nationalists already hate him for giving up Dnever in the first place."

"Our nation is now under threat because Kibard doesn't want to seem weak to his political opponents," Chermenko retorted.

"Despite the unreasonable actions of Hrstrovokia, President Kibard has ordered all military forces to abort the planned intervention into Dnever to prevent international confrontation," Sinitsin said. "All forces are on alert still but we won't be the ones to make the first move."

Telefax Message from Lasatanian Foreign Office:


Sirs,

Given our nation's previous action in the region, we would be willing to again deploy troops and aircraft to aid your nation. Should you require our assistance, please let us know at the first possible opportunity so that we can draw up a deployment list.


Komrade Ilyenov,

Overseas Office. We thank the Lasatanian government for its offer of military assistance during this time of instability and crisis on our borders. Our nation is still internally grateful for the contribution the people of Lasatania made in aiding our nation during the first Dnever crisis.

At this time, we do not require the redeployment of foreign forces on our soil. However, we urge you to use your nation's considerable influence to pressure other nations from taking advantage of the situation in Dnever. Dnever's economic importance cannot be stressed enough.

- Drabikstani Foreign Ministry

President and General Secretary Sean Matthews was sipping Orange juice and casting a speculative eye over the latest foreign developments dossier. Welcoming news came from Drabikstan, where President Kibard had aborted the intended invasion of Dnever.

And though the overall situation had not improved drastically, it was a start. Something to build on. "Send word to Kibard. We are prepared to host a conference between Drabikstan and Dnever in order to resolve the current problem's being experienced." said Matthews to his beautiful, blonde secretary.

As she departed the room, Matthews swivelled about in his chair, staring idly at the red shag carpet. The carpet reminded Matthews of the colour of blood. "Perhaps it is too late, but atleast we are trying the path of peace."

[OOC: Air-strike cancelled. That's just woefully convinient isnt it? It's just better to include the travel factor Macabee's, some people wouldnt mind at all, but others would use your exclusion of that factor has reasonable cause to throw out your whole RP all together. I'm not telling you how to do things, I thought your actual attack was very good, but it's just keeping with realism.]

OOC: I never cancelled the airstrikes (that is, if you're referring to me). In any case...fiiiine, will do... I'll just delete my previous post, and start from scratch. I'll probably copy/paste the other post.

IC:
[Macabee Carrier Task Force (CTF) 6]
The revolving wars and battles fought throughout the short history of Dnever was quite interesting to the Macabee military. Such a small nation, wartorn, because of some freaks who were land hungry and wanted to flex some military muscle. Therefore, the Macabees would end this fiasco once and for all - they would occupy the region of Dnever and add it to the Empire as a temporary provence. Then, once a fruitful government was in place the Macabees would let the provence go and allow it form its own nation once again.

However, this was a lot easier said than done. There were a lot of contendants for the region, including a new guy, Dimmimar. Drabikstan and Kansburg were also mobilizing for the kill. The Macabees would have to stop these guys in their tracks, and perhaps push them well beyond their own borders until they gave up. Sovieten, a Soviet hardliner had threatened to help Dnieven, even if the nation didn't have a military strong enough to take on half a carrier task force. It would be tricky indeed - but the effort would be well spent.

CTF-6 was comprised of three Model class Aircraft Carriers, each with one hundred aircraft, making a total of two hundred MMA-A2 Hawk Air Superiority Fighters, and one hundred MMA-A1 Kondor Low Altitude Fighters. Three Raus class Escort Carriers also carried another sixty Kondors, and thirty Hawks. The main carrier force was sorrounded by a twenty Model class Destroyer ship ASW perimeter, along with ten SONAR submergibles. AWACs was provided off a fourth Raus, with some twenty MMA-D1 Gull Reconaissance Aircraft circuling 100kms infront of the ASW perimeter. There were also six cruisers, and six frigates present. Independently, there were ten Toledo class SSNs present for the battle to come. All in all, although small in terms of Macabee martial might, it was fairly large in respect and relation to the war going on in Dnever.

CTF-6 was a break off the recent mobilization of the one super task force conjured in Freemantia, originally for war against NATO. However, once the Macabees had passed over the notion of actually defeating NATO alone, without the active support of the RWC, and NWO, the Macabees would use the mobilization to their advantage in several of the brushfire wars occuring around the NationStates globe. This would allow the Macabee to increase territory, throw out influence, in a quick, and effective manner. It was a known fact that the smaller nations were the nations of the future, and that was just what the Macabee needed for support for all wars to come. That is why CTF-6 was formed, and scripted orders to settle as close as Dnever as possible, without alerting the neighbors. If needed, CTF-6 would war against all parties which opposed themselves to the Macabee occupation, and if needed reinforcements would be brought in.

CTF-6 left quickly, at a rate of about thirty knots, the task force could only go as fast as it's smallest ship. The large supercarriers, as some called them, sailed in the center, using their huggle nuclear reactors to propell themselves towards Dnever. The ASW and AWACs perimeters were in their respective places, keeping their eyes and ears open for enemy aircraft, missiles, or submarines. If any of the such appeared the Macabees would have to effectivel deal with the threat and destroy any other of the nation's forces that were directly in the area. The Macabee doctrine of foreign policy intertwined with war was a harsh reality, but it had to be respected.

ETA for arrival to destination was just about four (role play) days (I'll say three hours, because I'm cracking my knuckles to role play the opening assault again). CTF-6 was ready for anything that was thrown at it, and it was ready to carry out its imperial orders. However, there was another quick thing to note. With the task force came a single armored division, one thousand five hundred Panzerkampfwaggen IX Sargon Ausf. B Main Battle Tanks, and two divisions of well trained infantry - or, forty thousand (40,000) combat men, and about one hundred and sixty thousand (160,000) logistical personnel.

For resupplying a large fleet of armament ships, and merchant ships, protected by a force of about twenty SSNs, coming to and fro, would constantly resupply CTF-6 with petroleum, ordnance, and foodstuff. This would allow CTF-6 to stay in combat for the remainder of the war if needed. Additionally, rumors had already spread that CTF-6 would grow, but military analyst doubted it.

****Formal communique from Lasatanian Foreign Ministry****

The state of Lasatania warns all nations planning on undertaking military operations against Drabikstan to stand their forces down. Failure to do so will result in immediate action against such nations by Lasatanian armed forces.

In order to emphasise this point, the Lasatanian Second Fleet is to be moved to the Black Sea in prepardness. In addition to this, Long Range Aviation has been ordered to place all squadrons on two-hour standby, providing Lasatania with an intercontinental strike capability.

Should the situation deteriorate further, immediate dpeloyment of Lasatanian ground troops will take place, and aggressor nations will be subject to pre-empitive strike action.



Lasatanian Foreign Ministry - 11/11/04



****End of communique****

To: Lasatania (made public to all)

Should your forces stand in our way when we deploy there we will not hesitate to open fire on your task force and destroy it if necessary. This is just a warning that we will have no mercy on your nation.

Minutes of Meeting of Chiefs of Staff, Lasatanian High Command, 11/11/04


Present: Marshal Koloskovsky - Army (MK)
Admiral Protoyev - Navy (AP)
Marshal Stalinsky - LAF (MS)
Gregor Kolinsky - Head of Socialist Party (GK)

Agenda: Deployment to Drabikstan/Pre-empitive action


Agenda item 1 - Deployment to Drabikstan

MK opened meeting with briefing on situation and description of threats made by The Macabees. Intelligence reports on this nation were distributed to those present. AP noted that the size of The Macabees could pose problems, to which MS reminded those present that the total population size of Greater Lasatania, incorporating Lasatania and Ruro-Severia, was currently nearing 2 billion. Also, MS added, if need be, Drabikstan could be persuaded to mount a rugged defence while waiting for the deployment of troops to te country. AP suggested that the deployment of the fleet whilst unprotected by LAF squadrons could prove too much of a risk and instead urged for intense diplomatic pressure to be placed on Drabikstan to allow for deployment of Lasatanian forces in the country. Such a measure would allow, said AP, for proper defensive positions to be taken and for the political impetus to be moved towards Drabikstan and Lasatania.

GK conceded that deployment of a naval force at this moment in time would prove counter-productive. However, GK ordered the deployment of Typhoon class submarines to location XXXXXXXX, where they would be able to target the main industrial cities of The Macabees. However, there would be no declaration of this deployment until such time as was necessary. GK also ordered that Missile Command receive target data pertaining to The Macabees.


Agenda item 2 - Pre-empitive strikes

MS gave a briefing on all available strike options involving the LAF. MK asked whether the combined use of stealth bombers and long-range cruise missiles could be traced to Lasatania. MS said this was doubtful, but should a missile fail to detonate, it would be easy to trace its origin. MS argued that currently, it would be best to place entire Long Range Aviation fleet on 2 hour standby, therefore allowing for an immediate strike should it be required. GK conceded that this would be the best course of action and gave orders to that effect.


Non-agenda item - Mobilisation of People's Defence Force

GK gave order for the activation of PDF. Lasatania would be placed at full-scale alert and local Kommissars would commence distirbution of weapons and organising the construction of defensive barriers. Current size of PDF, if fully activated, is thought to be in the region of 10m people mimimum.

Next meeting to be held on 12/11/04 - 08:00 hrs


(OOC: I finish in five minutes so that's it today...)

2200 hours, An isolated beach in Dnever.....

The troops had landed. Slowly but surely they had set up a base of operations. The gunship-carriers stayed with them, the assualt would be launched in the morning....

"Our latest intelligence reports confirm that several military forces, the Macabee Empire, Greater Lasatania and Dimmimar are committing formations to Drabikstan." said Director Oprenokov. He presented Matthews with a dossier packed with Satellite photo's, which clearly indicated naval, air and ground forces movements by all the mentioned states.

"This is going into melt-down. The Macabee Empire and Greater Lasatania are about to clash directly over Dnever." Matthews said viewing the photo's with unease. Both were large powers, and the damage they could reek if unrestrained was horrible to imagine. This was no longer a conflict between Drabikstan and Dnever, it had spiralled into a multi-national free-for-all of self-interest.

Matthews flung the photo's onto the desk in frustration. "Forget Drabikstan, Forget Dnever. Their fate is sealed." he said angrily. The two men sat in silence for some while. "That's it then, let us wash our hands of it all" Oprenokov said walking to the door while Matthews was following close behind.


[OOC: Omg. The stakes are too high. I'm out.]

Transmission recieved:

Eagle, this is Roman. We have deployed on the main supply route, and are expecting heat from assailents shortly, we will attempt to stop them from reaching central Dnever. Eagle, there's only one squad of us out here, and the truck wont make good cover. Also, we are using secondary weapons after those we lost in Washibar, and these AK74's won't be much use. We request that you send the Hind to secure us a safe retreat. Position Delta, Juliet, 20, 12. Roman out.

The Imperial Foreign Ministry reports:

All 15 attackers had no uniform. All were armed with AK74s. Asiatic in appearance with some Caucasian. We demand answers.

All our troops are indeed armed with AK74's, but we remain in uniform for all combat situations, as can be seen here http://www.freewebs.com/sovieten/military.htm

OOC: Whoaa... jumping the gun a little aren't we.. the Typhoons mentioned in the minutes are nowhere near the Black Sea, you'd think I'd deploy my SLBM subs in the middle of a warzone... No, the mention of the subs in the memo is a warning that we are a nuclear power.. plus with vested intererest in Drabikstan - it is a client state - we are not willing to give an inch... Also... read the above post! The fleet has not even arrived there...

GK conceded that deployment of a naval force at this moment in time would prove counter-productive. However, GK ordered the deployment of Typhoon class submarines to location XXXXXXXX, where they would be able to target the main industrial cities of The Macabees. However, there would be no declaration of this deployment until such time as was necessary. GK also ordered that Missile Command receive target data pertaining to The Macabees.


How the heck am I meant to respond to a post that claims to have destroyed half my fleet in one swipe.. bit presumptious isn't it...

Remember one thing, the Typhoon class is a 25,000 ton titanium monster that can sit at depths unthinkable to other subs.. the whole point of it is to move and hide.. its called a strategic force... so you're not likely to find it...

OOC: Also, if I was to move a fleet into a warzone, I surely wouldn't be doing so without first declaring its size... given that my fleets usually have half a dozen Akula class subs for forward probing, you think I would at least have detected your presence quite some time ago..

I mean, I haven't even got the classes sorted out fully in my navy yet! I just have the composition of my fleets...

OOC: I never attacked your Typhoon sub..I attacked your 2nd Fleet in the Black Sea.

In order to emphasise this point, the Lasatanian Second Fleet is to be moved to the Black Sea in prepardness.


And I never claimed any kills...I leave the kills for you to role play in your discretion.

OOC: Also, if I was to move a fleet into a warzone, I surely wouldn't be doing so without first declaring its size... given that my fleets usually have half a dozen Akula class subs for forward probing, you think I would at least have detected your presence quite some time ago..

I mean, I haven't even got the classes sorted out fully in my navy yet! I just have the composition of my fleets...


OOC: Well then why the hell did you deploy one? Akulas are pieces of crap.... they would have to be within about one hundred meters to detect a Toledo. You should have gone with the Papas if you were going to use a RL submarine.

OOC: "To be moved" , yes to be, not has been.. cripes! I've only just declared that I'm getting involved... jeez... Given that I still have airforce bases in Drabikstan - which I'm sure he'll confirm.. do you not think I'd be mounting some serious anti-ship action first and foremost using bombers and cruise missiles..???

Only reason I've been slow to respond is I've got too much RL stuff going on right now!

OOC: Well then why the hell did you deploy one? Akulas are pieces of crap.... they would have to be within about one hundred meters to detect a Toledo. You should have gone with the Papas if you were going to use a RL submarine.

OOC: As I'm an ex-Soviet client state... also given I have a replacement sub in the pipeline I could be said to be between classes... Anyway, naval's not my speciality, air force is..

OOC: "To be moved" , yes to be, not has been.. cripes! I've only just declared that I'm getting involved... jeez... Given that I still have airforce bases in Drabikstan - which I'm sure he'll confirm.. do you not think I'd be mounting some serious anti-ship action first and foremost using bombers and cruise missiles..???

Only reason I've been slow to respond is I've got too much RL stuff going on right now!


OOC: Where exactly is your nation in relation to the Black Sea...we'll call the missile attack off.... and I'm guessing then that my fleet is the only major fleet in the Black Sea, which has a relation to the Dnever crisis.

Currently being deployed to Dneveran waters are:

12 SS-2.0 "refitted" Missile Crusiers

45 UIOP "Class A" Submarines [all armed with Nuclear and Cruise Warheads]

Just as a quick IC/OOC note:

As my fleet is the only one currently in the Black Sea, I have placed special advanced AWACs (meaning ahead of my normal AWACs) over the Bosphorus and Dardanelles. Consequently, I'll warn you all OOCly that your ships are going to have a hard time passing through to the Black Sea if you're an enemy. Your submarines might have an easier time, but I have ways of dealing with that.

OOC: My nation is off the east coast of the Korean Peninsula, though we were previously invovled in aiding Drabikstan against insurgency... Though we have not been particularly active in the region, we do retain airbases in the country and there are on average 12 squadrons of the LAF in the country at any one time, split between two bases.. The majority of the squadrons are Long Range Aviation bomber squadrons, with a couple of fighter squadrons as support..



IC:

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****Internal Memo****

From: Colonel Alyetsin

To: Marshal Stalinsky

Subject: LAF forces in Drabikstan


Message:

Sir,

Regarding you inquiring into our level of deployment in Drabikstan, I can confirm that the following squadrons are currently deployed in the country:



PVO

1 x LAS-XF2 Foiler (Sukhoi S37 prototype copy)
1 x LAS-XF3 Firestorm (MiG-35 prototype copy)
1 x MiG-31 Foxhound


Frontal Aviation

1 x LAS-F8 Ferret(MiG-23mlb copy)
2 x Su-24 Fencer


Long Range Aviation


1 x LAS-XB1 Blackbear (Stealth - Suhkoi prototype copy)
1 x LAS-XB2 Brightstar (Stealth - Tupolev protoype copy)
3 x LAS-B1 Bloodstain (Tu22M Backfire remodel)
1 x Tu-95 Bear (ALCM platforms)



(OOC: Further info on all LAS models is in my storefront..)

OOC:
By the way, my forces are not hostile to ANYONE at this current moment in time...

OOC: Anyhow, I have to leave for now.. please try not to destroy too much of my forces.. ;)

Sovieten is send a full third of our navy (one patrol boat) Into the Black Sea near the Dneverian coastline. This is merely a recconaissence mission, we wish to provoke no hostilities from Dimmimar

OOC: Well, I want to get this damn war RP going so I'm going to have to attack something...

IC:
[The Opening Shots; Air War over Dnever]
With the pre-conflict diplomatics coming to a horrible anti-climatic ending there was only one path left; the path of war. Consequently, sattelite MST-45 was ordered to make a pass over Dnever, as well as Drabikstan, in order to successfully take photographs of airfields, ground concentrations and bases, as well as the deployment of current forces inside of Dnever - which was to date infested by two nations, Kangsburg, and Dimmimar. These two would have to be dealt with later. For now the Macabees would have to deal with the larger problem, Lasatania. If Lasatania was thrown out of the picture the Macabees could effectively destroy the forces Dimmimar and Kangsburg had in the area peacemeal. For that reason MST-45 took its time, transmitting photographs and other information back to CTF-6 headquarters on one of the Model class Aircraft Carriers.

The plan of action was immediately drawn up, and it was rather simple, however, effective. It complicated a bit in terms of the fact that the Macabees did not have heavy bombers in the area, and that Drabikstan could be infested with SAMs, and the sort. Consequently, the slow destruction of Drabikstan's and Lasatania's aerial force in the area would have to come slowly, and step by step, without the Macabees making a mistake.

So, first thing was first. Off one of the carriers the entire Hawk force deployed on the carrier began to fly off, five by five. It took about twenty minutes to get all one hundred (100) MMA-A2 Hawk Air Superiority Fighters into the air effectively. The Hawks were armed with twenty MTAAM-2 Predator air to air missiles each, which were quite effective at their job of killing. The Hawks would form an AWACS/airscreen towards the area of the projected air battle, making sure that they had ample warning of anything the Lasatanian's threw at them. Their MRT-2 RADAR systems could burn through stealth at about 110 to 120 kilometers, while the MRT-1 system on the naval vessels behind, which hooked up the central computer screens of the pilots, could detect general aircraft or missiles from a range of up to seven hundred kilometers, of course, all under the right circumstances. Meaning, CTF-6 and her aircraft were pretty well protected.

With this done, the attack was scheduled to begin. All six cruisers, as well as the six frigates, opened up with their own missiles. A total of three hundred MAAM Ausf. B cruise missiles shrieked into the sky from the verticle launch tubes, five by five, per ship. The MAAM Ausf. B were no exception in the technological superiority of the Macabees. They hit an altitude of one hundred meters (ca. three hundred and fifty feet) and began their raid towards the airfields of Durbikstan. Although the raid was on Durbikstan, the attack was coordinated against Lasatania's airfields. Using scramjet propulsion the MAAM Ausf. Bs sped up to Mach 4.5, using THYMONEL 8 (a third generation single crystal superalloy) to take care of the Hydrogen Embrittlement, as well as the intense work of air friction and such. At about fifty kilometers from target the cruise missiles opened up heavy jamming support and began to fall using sheer kenetic energy towards their intended targets. The MAAM Ausf. Bs used a RAM type coating to preserve some kind of stealth, making it hard for RADAR to lock on to the missile, and it also used a mechanism which warped the radio waves sent by RADAR to make the missile seem in a place where it really wasn't, such as about two hundred meters to the right or left, making it hard for Lasatanian SAMs to shoot these babies down.

After the attack the cruisers and the frigates were immediately resupplied by the several armament ships in the area, and began to prepare for the next missile strike, which would happen soon. However, the admirals would need to analyze this attack in order to strategize for the next one. The next one would most probably use aircraft.

With aircraft in mind it was an important note that ten of the one hundred Hawks had already landed. The Hawks would swipe ten aircraft for ten aircraft, allowing an organized refueling system, and allowing that at least ninety fighters were in the air at all times.

"Get ready men, Eagle say's we have incoming hostiles!" Said the lieutenant "I know we are only one squad, and they are better equipped than us, but we need only stall their attack. Stand firm, and be fearless! And fix that damned '74 Lukin!"

OOC:
Infested? I hardly call 4000 soldiers and 60 gunships occupying a beach infested....

Generian Imperial Intelligence Service Headquarters, Generia City, 0400 Hours

He was a military man, tall, decorated, wearing a green officer's uniform. Colonel Ivan Stoyanovich was his name, the reclusive commander of the Imperial Black Guard. Now he stood before a large, glowing screen, a map of the theater of operations displayed on it. He spoke to an assembly of about a dozen other men, some soldiers, some spooks.

"Approximately fourty minutes ago, we put 120 of our boys in country to begin the operation. As it would seem, several other foreign powers have seen fit to involve themselves in the theater. As we have no plans to begin any large scale military operations, this should not prove problematic.

The nation of The Maccabees has however commenced a strategic bombing campaign about twenty minutes ago. We have reason to believe that they will invade Dnever with intention to a: occupy and bring stability to the nation in preparation for eventual withdrawal, or b: hold the nation as a permanent province.

Now, whatever the case, our goal is to prolong the war as long as possible to maximize Imperial benefit and cause as much damage to the foreign militaries and the nation of Dimmimar as we can. Currently, our units are seeking out specific cells of the DLA with intent to supply them with state of the art equipment so that they may continue their terror campaigns for as long as possible.

I believe that if all goes according to plan, we can get off scot free and make ourselves a handy profit."

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Captain Mikhail Ivanovich crept silently along the dusty highwayside. His men followed, shrouded in darkness. They were approaching what was believed to be the location of an important DLA commander. With luck, they would gain themselves valuable allies in this inhospitable land.

A jet scream cut the soft early morning air. In the distance a cloud of fire rose over the horizons. The Macabees had commenced their airstrikes. The Captain increased his pace.

They travelled along the highway for a few more miles, turning away from the road to venture into the sandy plain. There was a small town ahead of them. They moved towards it. As the team neared the town, they spotted several armed men patrolling the streets. AK-47s and RPGs. Child's toys. They would have to go if the Guards desired any chance of entering the town alive.

A few quick muzzle flashes in the night, a muffled crack, and the men fell tot he dusty streets. The team advanced quickly over the sands, and enetered the streets. There ahead sat a mosque, unguarded surprisingly. Captain Ivanovich split his men into a few groups, twenty of them total. The rest were elsewhere in country. He approached the entrance to the shrine. The other unit moved around the back. Several muffled shots sounded as the team disappeared behind the structure.

The Captain pressed himself against the wall beside the double doors to the building. He motioned to one of his men, who advanced, a grenade in his hand. A second man opened the door a crack, and the other threw the flashbang into the holy place. The Captain swung around, and threw open the door. He rushed forward along with the rest of his contingent. The DLA soldiers clutched their eyes or rolled about on the ground. The Generians moved forward, and smacked them upside the head with the butts of their rifles, incapacitating them.

The second team entered the mosque from a back door, and did the same with several other DLA soldiers. They then proceeded to move towards the basement, the assumed location of the headquarters of Muhammad Abas Al Hariri. Another flashbang, some shots in the dark basement, and they were upon him.

He was an aging man, a long twisted beard fell about his shoulders, migling with the colored cloth that hung from his turban, and the strap of his AK-47. He had surrendered without resistance, for he was also reasonably intelligent. If these men had penetrated his defenses, chances are they would have little problem ending the life of an old cleric.

They spoke to him, spoke in his own language, coarsely accented with strange foreign dialect. They told him they were in fact here to help him. He laughed at the idea. Foolish, they had killed his guards, and all to help him? Madness. But wait, his guards were apparently not dead now. Then he supposed the guns they were holding were merely figments of his imagination. Ha! he was old, but he was not crazy.

"I tell you, sheik, we bring you tools for you to continue your jihad against these foreigners."

"Foreigners? But you are foreigners! And infidels at that!"

"Would it be below you to accept guns from infidels? Guns and money?"

"I should say it would be."

"Sheik, you are a reasonable man, or so I hear. Come, and let us show you what we bring you. As we speak, the enemy knocks on your gates. Take arms so that you may repulse them."

"We shall see if what you say is true. If it is not, then I am already dead, but the fact that I breathe still seems to tell me your words hint of some form of truth. Show me these weapons."

The Generians led the Sheik up to the floor of the mosque where his men lay bound. Several crates now sat stacked in the center of the room. The sheik walked over to them, and a soldier opened one to reveal seven XM-8 assault rifles stacked neatly inside.

The Sheik picked one up.

"Excellent. But why do you bring me these gifts?"

"We see your cause as the only just one in this land. Accept the weapons. Your brothers throughout the country are now finding themselves with similar toys. With their help, your cause will be greatly aided, and the blood of the infidel shall fill the streets. Remember, however, who these gifts come from. You serve the Empire now."

"Yes. If it should further the cause, then perhaps we will ally ourselves with infidels for now."

The sheik laughed.

"Let them come now. Let them see the full might of the DLA."

As quickly as they had come, the twenty guardsmen vanished off into the darkness, on to other objectives.

((OOC: Hope it's okay if I RPed one of the DLA guys for you.))

TELEGRAM From the Empire of Kangsburg

Imperial Kangsburg Foreign Ministry: Our Forces are on the outskirts of the city. Repeat: The advance party of 150 Imperial Marines are in the outskirts of the main city of Dnever.

We will proceed to enter the city.
We will proceed to enter the city in the name of humanitarian purposes.

We, are only concerned with providing protection and food for those who are in need in Dnever. Anyone who wishes to give their aid, please airdrop food and supplies. However, anyone who fires on us, will bear the FULL brunt of the fury of the Imperial armed forces. We are a force to help, not invade.

OOC: I need coordinates of the city.

The Captain Kim looks around warily for any approaching armies or hoards of insurgents. His troops are outside the city.

In his steely gaze, attained only after years of warfare and hard campaigning in the Catonsville Wars and the war for Baltimorea, he sees nothing in his field glasses ... occasional cracks and pops of gunfire ensue from the city however. This mission will be ... interesting.

"OK, Lorosov, you know what to do. Load that AT4 and find us a target..."

Eagle, send the Mi24 immediately. We will require immediate pickup after we let out a few rounds at the Kangsburgian's. Position Delta, Juliet, 20, 37. Roman out.

Stats found here: http://www.freewebs.com/sovieten/military.htm

The marines see a formation coming their way ... they cannot discern who it is

The Sgt yells "ARMS READY!" "LOCK AND LOAD!"

The Captain orders for the company to remain calm and hold all fire until they take fire.

The Captain wants to find out what this is before he contacts the Colonel.

Foreign Ministry:

To: The Respected Government of Sovieten

In the name of humanity, we strongly urge you to desist mobilization against our forces. Any strike against our humanitarian mission will result in full mobilization. We are only armed for humanitarian purposes, any strike will cause an uproar that will lead to full mobilization

From the Minister of Defense Kang, he gives us these results of CURRENT home-base statistics:

115,000 Active Duty
12,000 Imperial Marines (Special Forces)
5000 Imperial Guards
150 Imperial Marksmen
2500 Tiger Hunters (Specialized Sapper/Anti-Tank)
6 ICBMs
100 Merkava (Israeli) tanks
20 of 155-mm howitzers
30 of 88-mm howitzers
2000 Humvees
200,000 Reserve

An imploded economy has reduced Sovietens army to a miniscule size, and training, fuel, rations, ammunition and transport are only just with our reach.


3x Infantry squadrons (1 officer (AK74 SU) 1 machine gunner (PK) 1 Anti-Tank trooper (AT4 launcher) and 1 medic, as well as 8 privates (AK74) per squad.)

1x Shillka Anti-Aircraft light armour tank

1x BMP Medium armour aussalt transport, HEAT payload.

3x URAL multi purpose truck

8x UAZ jeep

1x Mi24 helicopter, Sabot payload


If you attack, that squad of civvie drafts can multiply by 50. Do not underestimate us.

You are invading a near-powerless country with only one aim: Taking resources for your own profit. Humanitarian? Bah!

OOC: Before assuming my men are arabs and do not wear any uniform, check the site. My nation is more Russian-Based. http://www.freewebs.com/sovieten/military.htm

Also, you are being a little Godmodey with you army. A 9 million nation has the most basic of armaments, M16's and AK's, for instance. you are not large enough, and have not enough money for 12000 special forces.

The People's Republic of Ronius Vigiantes recognizes that there are always reasons for military conflict, but we urge all nations involved to attempt to solve the problem through diplomacy. Our country would be willing to host a summit at a high security facility for the leaders of countries involved to discuss a nonviolent solution.

OOC: yeah, you cleared up the fact that your men are not arabs and they are indeed uniformed, nice website of stats btw :) in terms of 12000 Imperial Marines, dunno bout that, i'll just say 4000 Marines since I already have 1500 already deployed to Dnever.

RP:

Foreign Ministry:

I, as Foreign Minister Kang, must tell to the world that the Empire STILL wishes to talk in a triumvirate with Sovieten and Drabikistan over the humanitarian disaster in Dnever. I also urge that the Respected Government of Sovieten step down their aggression against the forces of the His Imperial Service.

OOC: sorry for spelling error: Drabikstan

Telegram to Kangsburg Foreign ministry:

Sovieten wishes for no serious combat, however we will insist that you cease your drive into Dnever, as the situation now appears to have settled down. Any further attacks will only create civilian casualties, and perhaps the death of many of your own troops. We refuse to withdraw Roman from the main route into the city, but will not fire on your troops unless they attempt to force an entry to Dnever's capital. It would be in the interests of all our nations involved if we Withdraw from Dnever.

OOC: thanks for the compliment on the site.

The People's Republic of Ronius Vigilantes wil send the following humanitarian aid to help alleviate the crisis in Dnever:

5 Mobile Hospitals
20 MedVac Helicopters (without weapons)
100 Military Trained Emergency Medical Doctors
3 C-24 Cargo Planes equipped with food packs

We urge Kangsburg and Sovieten to help save lives, not take them.

If our Humanitarian Aid Workers are threatened, we will do what is necessarry to extract all workers from the area.

RADIO ANNOUNCMENT

The Foreign Ministry along with the Ministry of Defense bring you this special report

As you know, Imperial Marines have been sent to the strife-ridden nation of Dnever. Although there has been multiple communication problems with interested nations, an advance party is on the outskirts of the capital city of Dnever. However, these troops will NOT enter the city. These troops will wait until the remaining troops join up with them. After the linkup, these troops will ensure that medical and humanitarian aid from RONIUS VIGILANTES will enter the city safely. Again, the Imperial Marines WILL NOT enter the city. Negotiations will follow on who will be allowed to enter the city with armed troops with local and international leaders.

Thank you

NOW BACK TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED STATE PROGRAM: "How Many Ways Can I Show That I Love The Emperor??!?" :D

Ronius Vigilantes thanks Kangsburg for their aid.

Kangsburg, if you need medical aid for your troops, do not hesitate to call upon my country. We will gladly provide you with what you need.

We are glad to hear that, Kangsburg. Unfortunately, we have not the resources to give aid, but our troops will Stand down. We shall keep one squad as a safeguard, but once the aid has been administered, they too will withdraw.

Ronius Vigilantes thanks Sovieten as well. We will provide medical aid for your troops also, if necessary.

[Airstrike on Dnever Capital :: ATTN: Kangsburg]
Off a second carrier fifty MMA-A1 Kondor Low Altitude Fighters screamed into the morning sky over Dnever. Their modern shape classified them as older aircraft in the Macabee inventory, and for that reason they kept low, while the Hawks kept high. Each Kondor was loaded with four MTAAM-2 Predator Air to Air missiles, and twelve MLAM-2 air to surface missiles for direct use against Kangsburg men in the capital. They had made the boast that if they were attacked the attacking nation would feel the full weight of their armed forces. The Macabees were testing their resolution on this, and hopefully were hoping that Kangsburg would be foolish enough to live up to this threatening boast. Consequently, the Kondors saw themselves flying no higher than ten meters over the surface, towards the Dnever capital. This low, with the curverture of the aircraft, and the composite RAM material on the fighter, enemy RADAR wouldn't detect them until it was too late, or if it did, it would seem that each aircraft was five hundred meters away than it really was.

This second strike against Dnever, this time against the troops in occupation, under Kangsburg's control, was to be a hard hit, designed to seriously hurt Kangsburg and the troops it had in the country. Make then think twice about their stay in what the Macabees wanted for themselves. The Kondors flew at a velocity of Mach 2.4, seemingly fast. They would have to hit, turn, and then hit their afterburners to get as fast as possible, and enter the Hawk airscreen. CTF-6 didn't have the Hawks to lend to the Kondors for their endevour.

Two kilometers from the capital, at various ranges, the Kondors struck. Lifting up a couple dozen meters they were ready for their strike. Each Kondor fired their total of twelve MLAM-2 air to surface strike missiles, making a total of six hundred MLAM-2 missiles. Using sattelite photography the missiles were destined to strike medical stations, Kangsburg troop concentrations, tank parks, and other important administration buildings. The MLAM-2s were unhooked and they freefell for about ten feet before their scramjet propulsion engines kicked in, and sent them at Mach 3.7 for about 1.7 kilometers. The rest of the way the missiles simply flew towards their targets through sheer kenetic energy. Each MLAM-2 had a 200kg OctaNitroCubane warhead, the strongest synthetic explosive known to man. They would do some real damage to Kangsburg.

The enemies had been warned that anything opposing the Macabees would be destroyed. The Macabees were going to be good on their word.

After the strike the Kondors did what they were supposed to do. They turned around as fast as possible, and they then hit their afterburners, heading back to the carriers at Mach 2.9. They still had their four MTAAM-2 Predators if they detected anything on their MRT-2 RADAR.

From the Foreign Ministry:

CALLING ALL COUNTRIES

To the Government of the Macabees

Your unprovoked attack on a humanitarian mission to supply the city with medical aid and food can no doubt be stated as cowardly. The Foreign and Defense Ministries confirms the death of 42 men with 57 wounded of a 150 men advance party securing the road into the city for the respective medical missions. As for the 1500 Marines and medical battalions, the attack has killed 23 un-armed medical troops and 120 Marines. Truly a dark day in the annals of humanitarian missions undertaken by the Empire.

Our Government asks for revenge for this unwarranted act of aggression with a coalition of forces. Asking the countries of Drabikstan, Sovieten and Ronius, Dimmimar for a full-scale attack on the forces of the Macabees.

Our troops and miltary infrastructure will be on full mobilization. There is uproar for immediate action in the Empire.

The mask of the Macabees is shown. We ask ALL countries to condemn this sickening tide of imperialism and conquest that has taken over Dnever and aid the Empire is crushing the enemies of peace and support the people through aid.

OOC: Six hundred missiles only killed around 200 to 300 people? Wow.

OOC: OK, you want to play with numbers like this, then fine..

IC:

The initial strike against the LAF forces in Drabikstan had half been expected. The arrival of an unfriendly fleet in the Black Sea had mean tthat all LAF forces in the region were on full-alert. As a consequence, most squadrons had been moved to alternative concealed bases.. However, some squadrons didn't make it in time and overall, the LAF force in the region lost a number of Bloodstain and Bear bombers.

However, plans had already been set in motion. Lasatania may not be a major naval power, but with regards to aerial warfare, it is hard to match. A soon as news of the strike came in, contigency plans were put in action.

Immediately, MiG-31 Foxhound's were put to the air to ,make high altitude ELINT passes of the Macabeen fleet and gather an overall picture of its size. Meanwhile urgent signals traffic passed between Moscow and Korova, with up to the minute satellite pictures arriving at Lasatanian High Command.

Deep in Lasatania itself, the LAF put the entire Long Range Aviation wing on 1 hour alert and once the plan had been finalised, a large percentage of this force would be airborne..

As it became apparent that a total of 38 surface ships formed the total Macabeen fleet in the area, it was soon realised that a massive strike combining the Kh-4 anti-ship missle and stealth bombers was probably the best chance of success against such a large target.

Four hours later, the LAF had deployed three of its finest squadrons:

The 23rd, 42nd and 89th, flew the LAS-XB2 Bedbug Stealth Bomber, each carring four Kh4 missiles. The pilots in these squadrons had been trained to the highest level possible and were able to fly their craft as low as 500ft if need be - and this time they would.

Each bomber carried four Kh4 missiles, armed with a 350kg HE warhead. With a total of 36 aircraft in the air, that meant that the fleet was facing an assualt from 144 missiles all at virtually the same time.

With a top speed of Mach 3 and flight altitude of just 20 meters above sea level, the Kh-4 far outstripped the French Exocet. Such a missile gave the defending ships only 25 seconds in which to react, rendering missiles and artillery virtually useless and making the deployment of countermeasures incredibly difficult.

Escorting the bombers, four squadrons of the new LAS-XF4 Flytrap, ultra-long range fighter. Each squadron deployed one fighter in a mini-AWACS role, allowing for the tracking of 24 individual targets per plane at a range of up to 200km. Anything that took the air without a friendly IFF tag was soon to find itself at the receiving end of an AMRAAM.

(OOC: all details of the LAS equipment described here can be found in my storefront.)

By the end of the day, Macabeen's would regret their actions...

Official Announcement from Lasatania Foreign Ministry


Following the recent unprovoked attack on Lasatanian forces in the nation of Drabikstan by The Macabeens, the ruling council of Lasatania has voted overwhelmingly to provide full and effective military support to Drabisktan.

In addition to this, Lasatania has launched a full strike against the Macabees fleet in the region. It is hoped that this strike and the full scale deployment of Lasatanian forces in Drabikstan will prevent further imperialist aggression in the area by this state.

In total, Lasatania aims to deploy approximately 250,000 troops in Drabikstan by the end of the month. Any attacks on these troops will be taken as a declaration of war and will be dealt with in the appropriate matter.

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OOC: GODMODDING ALEART! Kangsburg, 600 missiles killing only 200 - 300 people is a little low, don't ya think? 600 missiles would have wiped out almost all of your troops from the area. I suggest that you re-tally those casualties before someone else decides that you should be blown off the planet.

OOC: So I guess, Lasatania, you're ignoring my CRUISE MISSILE strike on your airfields?

OOC: Bah, doesn't matter, I'll respond to this.

IC:

"Vampire, Vampire!" The MRT-1 RADAR system which the Macabee Imperial Navy used caught the missile once they were unshackeled from their bombers, which were evendtly stealth bombers. The Lasatanians were going to feel pretty unlucky after this show of their cards. The MRT-1 was an extremely powerful system, running on over four million watts of power on each ship, and not only that but the MRT-2s on the AWACs (the Hawk fighter screen I put up), and the downlooking LIDAR, also provided the Macabees with a very good advanced warning. The Lasatanian's evidently made no attempt at downing Macabee AWACs, and paid no heed to the ASW perimeter, which would prove its biggest mistake.

The twenty Destroyers immediately opened up at the missiles with their Praetorian V systems. Each destroyer had ten Praetorian V batteries (five on each side); each battery had twenty Praetorian V slots - meaning that the twenty destroyers could fire a total of ten thousand missiles; however, they wanted to conserve Praetorian Vs for the bigger threats. The Macabee fleets were prepared for raids numbering in the tens of thousands of missiles - the kind of wars the Macabees had experience fighting in. Consequently, only two hundred Praetorian Vs were fired at the incoming missiles, and this shot down just about one hundred of them, leaving only forty-four to complete their job - which wasn't about to be completed. These forty-four were targetting every ship in the Macabee fleet, with no real pinpointing on specific targets. Meaning that the Macabee shipping was able to use the MSCIWS (Metal Storm CIWS) to simply use the MRT-1 and MLT-1 RADAR and LIDAR systems, respectively, and shoot down missile after missiles. MSCIWS was normally used a last resort, but since it went third generation, it was built to handle hundreds of missiles, meaning that this one was no biggy. The Metal Storm guns simply locked on to the missiles and shot them down - no matter if they were sea-skimming or not. The sea-skimmers were actually easier to shoot down. One by one they were blown at of the sky from a respectable distance. However, one of the destroyers faced a missile in the aft, killing some fifty crew members, and causing the destroyer to list. The destroyer would be towed next to the carriers, and used for aerial protection, instead of ASW procedures.

The Lasatanian missile raid had been an incredible failure. Air power was useless, unless used wisely, and the Lasatanians had not shown any of this in their first raid. The Macabees would have to dig this fact in...deep.

The Lasatanian fighter aircraft would be the first to go down. Fifty Hawks immediately deployed to the area and from a distance of one hundred and ninety kilometers they fired a total of two hundred MTAAM-2 Predator air to air missile. The MTAAM-2 was a top of the line air to air missile with a range of two hundred kilometers; using a scramjet engine to propel it through this range, and at a velocity of Mach 3.7, the missile also had a THYMONEL 8 superalloy to allow the greater range, because TYHYMONEL 8 protected against HEE, which most missiles suffered of, as well as overheating, which caused many missiles to have extremely low range. The AMRAAMs came nothing near the Predator - the Predator was first in its class, and it would show its mark on Lasatanian aircraft.

This wasn't it. The Hawks then proceeded towards the bombers, which had illuminated themselves by firing the anti-shipping missiles. At a range of one hundred and fifty kilometers, with the Lasatanian fighters gone away or destroyed, they fired one hundred Predators at the bombers. The MTAAM-2s were unshackled and they free-fell for about ten feet before the scramjet engines propelled them at Mach 3.7 towards the bombers. Those bombers would be feeling pain soon enough.

Then the Hawks turned around and would land to be re-stocked with missiles and they would go back to AWACs duty.

OOC:


OK, I fire my ignore cannon... I'm deleting all my feckin posts and replying with this..


Firstly, you really have no inkling as to what I fielded... considering that the fighters I deployed are equipped with the Flashdance radar array, allowing for the tracking of up 24 targets at a range of 250km... do you not think I'd start picking off your aircraft at a range of about 100km?

Secondly, do you really think that you can stop a missile going Mach 3+ at 20m above sea level unless using some kind of future tech..

Thirdly... you don't think I would actually be able to launch a second raid at the same time... which was the plan.. but, given that everything seems to be a foregone conclusion I see no point


Plus your OOC comment shows that you are pretty much minded that you and only you can win this war...

PS, you had been better off explaining that you using some kind of future tech, given that my forces are at best modern+ (i.e I have a few fighters/bombers based on prototypes, but everything else is modern..)



So...






IC:

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Official Announcement from Lasatanian Foreign Office


The continued aggression of the Macabees has given rise to great concern among the Lasatanian Ruling Council. To this effect, Lasatania orders the Macabees to remove its fleet from the region or face a full strategic nuclear strike against a number of its cities.

Lasatania has deployed two Typhoon class submarines to an undisclosed location, each carrying 20 SS-N-20 Sturgeon SLBMs. Each missile is equipped with a MIRVed warhead, consisting of 10 100kt warheads. This force allows for a strike against a total of 400 targets in the Macabees.

The Macabees fleet has 24 hours to withdraw from the area or else the launch code will be transmitted to the Lasatanian submarines.

Lasatania will not tolerate unfounded agresssion, nor will it tolerate abuse of power.



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OOC: Wow do you know anything about modern warfare systems?

1. About the fighters. Do you not understand that I fired off my air to air missiles at 200 kilometers range? Meaning, that I wouldn't even get close to 100 kilometers. You really need to learn how to read RPs.



The Lasatanian fighter aircraft would be the first to go down. Fifty Hawks immediately deployed to the area and from a distance of one hundred and ninety kilometers they fired a total of two hundred MTAAM-2 Predator air to air missile. The MTAAM-2 was a top of the line air to air missile with a range of two hundred kilometers; using a scramjet engine to propel it through this range, and at a velocity of Mach 3.7, the missile also had a THYMONEL 8 superalloy to allow the greater range, because TYHYMONEL 8 protected against HEE, which most missiles suffered of, as well as overheating, which caused many missiles to have extremely low range. The AMRAAMs came nothing near the Predator - the Predator was first in its class, and it would show its mark on Lasatanian aircraft.


I bolded the important parts....


2. Sea-skimmers are worthless against someone who knows their stuff, I'm sorry. Modern RADAR systems take about twenty seconds to compute the location of the sea-skimmer, especially with LIDAR. LIDAR uses lasers to compute range and velocity, as well as vectoring, and is chaff is useless against it. To stop a LIDAR laser you need to have a pretty thick cloud in front of it...and as soon as what I'm tracking pops out of the cloud it gets tracked once again. Metal Storm is a type of CIWS invented by the Australians. It fires anywhere from 60 rps, to the theoretical 1 million rps, although the latter is fictitious because no ships can keep up with that ammunition. As my AP Physics teacher put it, "anything that flies is gone with CIWS". CIWS was invented in the mid-80s by the US Government. That's why I rarely use surface missiles anymore, or I use them with extreme caution, and I role play VERY good tactics when firing them. You blatantly fired them from an obvious position.

3. You completely IGNORED my prior cruise missiles on your airfields, which I can VERY easily see using sattelites. How do you think the US accurately fired cruise missiles on Iraqi positions? Magic?

4. ADDITIONALLY... a sea-skimmer going Mach 3 is BULLSHIT. To go at that speed you're going to need a SCRAMjet engine, and a SCRAMjet doesn't work that low in the atmosphere - it's simply to thin to work the SCRAMjet.

5. I do believe that only I can win this war... it's with that mentally that you win wars.

OOC: Wow do you know anything about modern warfare systems?

1. About the fighters. Do you not understand that I fired off my air to air missiles at 200 kilometers range? Meaning, that I wouldn't even get close to 100 kilometers. You really need to learn how to read RPs.



I bolded the important parts....


2. Sea-skimmers are worthless against someone who knows their stuff, I'm sorry. Modern RADAR systems take about twenty seconds to compute the location of the sea-skimmer, especially with LIDAR. LIDAR uses lasers to compute range and velocity, as well as vectoring, and is chaff is useless against it. To stop a LIDAR laser you need to have a pretty thick cloud in front of it...and as soon as what I'm tracking pops out of the cloud it gets tracked once again. Metal Storm is a type of CIWS invented by the Australians. It fires anywhere from 60 rps, to the theoretical 1 million rps, although the latter is fictitious because no ships can keep up with that ammunition. As my AP Physics teacher put it, "anything that flies is gone with CIWS". CIWS was invented in the mid-80s by the US Government. That's why I rarely use surface missiles anymore, or I use them with extreme caution, and I role play VERY good tactics when firing them. You blatantly fired them from an obvious position.

3. You completely IGNORED my prior cruise missiles on your airfields, which I can VERY easily see using sattelites. How do you think the US accurately fired cruise missiles on Iraqi positions? Magic?

4. ADDITIONALLY... a sea-skimmer going Mach 3 is BULLSHIT. To go at that speed you're going to need a SCRAMjet engine, and a SCRAMjet doesn't work that low in the atmosphere - it's simply to thin to work the SCRAMjet.

5. I do believe that only I can win this war... it's with that mentally that you win wars.


ooc: Oh my god.... what can I say, and dare I even ask what age you are... I suppose I had better provide you with a link to the SS-N-22 (Kh4) for a start..

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/moskit.htm

As the site says

SS-N-22 Sunburn

Moskit is the aircraft variant of the naval missile 3M80 (SS-N-22 Sunburn, the designation 3M80 apparently referring to the Mach 3 speed of 1980 weapons) used on "Sovremennyy" destroyers (eight missiles on each) and on "Tarantul [Tarantula] III patrol ships (four missiles on each). The 3M82 "Mosquito" missiles have the fastest flying speed among all antiship missiles in today's world. It reaches Mach 3 at a high altitude and its maximum low-altitude speed is M2.2, triple the speed of the American Harpoon. When slower missiles, like the French Exocet are used, the maximum theoretical response time for the defending ship is 150-120 seconds. This provides time to launch countermeasures and employ jamming before deploying "hard" defense tactics such as launching missiles and using quick-firing artillery. But the 3M82 "Mosquito" missiles are extremely fast and give the defending side a maximum theoretical response time of merely 25-30 seconds, rendering it extremely difficult employ jamming and countermeasures, let alone fire missiles and quick-firing artillery.

The aircraft version, officially called ASM-MMS and apparently also Kh-4, is intended specially for Su-27K (Su-33) carrier-based fighter aircraft. It was for the first time shown to the CIS leaders in February 1992 in Machulishche and then to the public in August 1992 at the Moscow Air Show in Zhukovskiy.


"The missile is propelled by a dual (rocket-jet) engine operating by the same principle as the Kh-31 engine. The missile, suspended under the aircraft, has a folding wing. The missile is guided by an autopilot during the initial fight stage, with possible correction by the aircraft pilot, and by active radar during the final flight stage. "

OK, maybe I was out by a Mach but even so.. still three times faster than the Harpoon.. Also given that FAS is in general pessimistic about soviet equipment, that's a pretty hot piece of missile, that is in active service I should add...

Also, by the by, I only RP with people using similar tech levels... Scramjet missiles are a bit of a fantasy.. given that NASA has only just managed to fly a scramjet for 10 seconds today... and they still remain at the periphery of missile technology.. i.e they haven't been deployed.


I also notice you use of the word theoretica a few times... yes, theory is fine but what use is it in practice?l


Yes, I do know enough about military equipment to do a suitable RP without being anally retentive.. I also see that you simply use your suppposed 'superior knowledge' of weapons systems and the sheer size of your force to simply batter any opposition into submission..

Plus, you seem to be hung up on simply going to war... which, as any student of geopolitics will now should only be used as a last resort.. personally I am much more interested in RPing something with a bit of tension.. if I want war games I will go and play a strategy game on my PC..


Oh, and another point, you seem to have a one sided method of RPing, I mean the attack on my base.. did you not even think that either I or Drabikstan would have something in the air to at least see it coming... or at least a RADAR network... nah, course not... no nation would bother with an air defence system..

Also, you talk about firing 200AAMs at one time... you obviously don't understand the reality of air war then do you.. 200AAMs in the sky in one space would cause all kinds of problems re: cross-targeting and also locking on to one another... most air combat these days only involves a small number of aircraft but at a more localised level.. the age of the Blitz is very much passed..

So at the end of all this, you have rather foolishly deployed a massive fleet in an area where another state has a declared interest, now IRL no nation would do that.. so my threat stands..

Oh, and one last thing...

to quote you:

" I do believe that only I can win this war... it's with that mentally that you win wars."

Pretty much sums up what I said already, you've already declared yourself winner..


So my threat stands... your forces move one inch towards Drabikstan I send your nation back to the stone age..

OOC: Again, one other point.. it would appear that you are picking on a bunch of what can best be described as rag-tag nations with a snowballs chance in hell of fighting you... and then when a nation able to take you on appears you completely numberwank it up and attempt to weasle your way out of any loses... well, though, you don't win this time..

OOC:

What are you talking about? Nuberwanking? I can care less if my missiles lock on the same targets as each other, but noticing that they don't use their own radars, and only use their own LIDARs, they wouldn't target themselves. Air to air missiles most of the time use the RADAR present on the ground (my MRT-1) and in the air (the MRT-2), and based off modern radar, can filter out what is an enemy, and what isn't. So there's no chance in hell that my missiles are going to target each other, I'm sorry buddy.

And my one sided role play. What? It's not my job in the RP to consider your defenses; it's your job to role play what defenses you have. You never posted a single word on the defense of your airfields, so as far I know you had no air defense at the time. As for surface to air defenses I have no clue what you have, so I can't keep that in mind..it would be your job to role play that, as I have stressed before.

Scramjet is in use by most active role players on this forum..so if you ignore scramjet you ignore most active players present playing.

Also..you're nuclear attack... I doubt your twenty nuclear tipped warheads can even attempt to touch my homeland...I'll simply role play my SAMs shooting them down, and then me hunting down your Typhoon...it's as simple as that.

On the sunburn... it flies at twenty meters height, making it an ample target for MSCIWS, or just normal CIWS... so don't bullshit me with that.

You need to learn how to loose - if you present me with something I can't defend against I will role play the loss, but I won't role play the loss when I can easily present a formidable defense system, capable of downing just 144 missiles.

OOC: Meh, I have bigger things to do...such as invade Spain.... all my fleets are heading to Freemantia.

OOC: Good... perhaps other people can actually have an RP without someone coming in and steamrollering them...

Official Announcement from Lasatania Foreign Ministry


Following the recent unprovoked attack on Lasatanian forces in the nation of Drabikstan by The Macabeens, the ruling council of Lasatania has voted overwhelmingly to provide full and effective military support to Drabisktan.

In addition to this, Lasatania has launched a full strike against the Macabees fleet in the region. It is hoped that this strike and the full scale deployment of Lasatanian forces in Drabikstan will prevent further imperialist aggression in the area by this state.

In total, Lasatania aims to deploy approximately 250,000 troops in Drabikstan by the end of the month. Any attacks on these troops will be taken as a declaration of war and will be dealt with in the appropriate matter.

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OOC: Apologies for the time delay in responding. I'm unsure how to respond to the above posts considering the flaws in The Macabees roleplaying technique.

OOC: Well.. you could TG the others that posted and just use the ignore cannon for the macabees part in this... Just a suggestion..