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To all who shall see or hear this, know ye that this act, shall provide for the religious tolerance in the Catholic Cardinalatial See of Cherry Ridge, except for the outlined religions stated below:
1-All religions involving the worship of the devil, or satan
2-All religions worshipping, or believeing in, more than one God
3-Any religon that its intent is to mock the true church, the Catholic Church
4-Any religons that uses magic, or witchcraft, including wicca
5- Any goddess worshipping religion
Know Ye that any follower of the above stated religon shall face banishment from Cherry Ridge

All religions other than the Catholic Church will have their income taxed, property taxed, and their ministerns may not preach against the Catholic Church or against any of her priests, deacons, or bishops, and upong meating the Cardinal shall pay him the proper respect.
Ministers not preaching the trinity, must get licences.

Given my hand, in the service of the lord Jesus Christ, I do hereby sign this

His Eminence Cardinal DeVito
Archbishop of Cherry Ridge
Ruler of Cherry Ridge
Servant of the Lord
Priest in the Catholic Church

And where does the tolerance portion fit into this act?

OOC: Actually, this isn't too bad, considering that it was only Catholicism that was allowed originally. Still, as it stands, Shintoism, Hinduism, and I think Daoism are out (just listing major religions). On the bright side, there's virtually no chance for cults to rise up.

I'd prefer to see less taxation on the allowed religions, since the ones still around are either peaceful and serene (Buddhists) or are fellow worshippers of the same Almighty God (Christians, Jews, and Muslims). Just a little less income from it, and CR would gain a big boost of respect/trust. There are plenty of other reasons, including that His Holiness, John Paul II, made a number of very tolerant reforms in Vatican II.

OOC: Actually, this isn't too bad, considering that it was only Catholicism that was allowed originally. Still, as it stands, Shintoism, Hinduism, and I think Daoism are out (just listing major religions). On the bright side, there's virtually no chance for cults to rise up.

OOC: ...and Setism, Shamanism, Wicca, Sikhism, Muslims, Asatru, Druidism, Caodaism, Zoroastrianism, Lukumi, Shinto, Taoism, Confucianism, Baha'i Faith etc etc....

IC: Religious tolerance? :rolleyes:

Our nation has a simple religious tolerance law: You are allowed to be a fully supported member of our nation so long as you respect TRUE religious tolerance. The Christians were thrown out a few decades ago due to constant murders and beatings in the name of God. The rest of the community got sick of it and the Wiccans challenged their actions. The Wiccans and Druids won the following civil war pretty easily (being able to conduct magick and being easily the majority). Terrorists and criminals are the only exception to the tolerance rules. All Christians we've had except twenty five sensible practioners of the faith (who are still citizens) are all considered criminals for discriminating against homosexuals, Wiccans and Muslims. That's why after the civil war almost all were thrown out of the country.

OOC: At least Satanists/Setians stay out of other people's business :D

After hearing of this Tolerance Act passed the Senate of the Armed Republic has passed and has started to enforce the tolerance act enforced by Cherry Ridge. Also one religion has been added to the list. The religion of Islam is also outlawed. All people found to be in violation of this act will be:
A- Deported
B- Imprisoned
C- Executed
They can choose which one they will have imposed on them. I praise Cherry Ridge for this motion i hope others will start to adopt this also.

President Matthew Wills

Anyone from Haven14 accused of these so called 'crimes' is welcome to choose deportation to The People's Republic of Independent Wiccans, where they will treated with the respect they deserve.

And where does the tolerance portion fit into this act?

Really. I see very little, if any, tolerance.

And where does the tolerance portion fit into this act?

Really. I see very little, if any, tolerance.

Slaytanicca condemns the policies of Cherry Ridge and Haven14. Our borders are open to any wishing to flee these oppressive regimes.
We request inspectors be allowed into both regions to ensure those wishing to leave are able to do so without harassment.

The Republic of Neo Kyushu also wishes to invite any oppressed peoples to safe harbor in Neo Kyushu. Rest assured, you will find none of this persecution and bigotry in our nation.

-President Akira Yamamoto

Compared to before, this is a lot.
Only Catholicism was allowed before. Now all protestants can worship freely, Jews and muslims, and bhuddists can with a minister with a lisence, then they canworship freely. They are taxed, the Catholic church is not. Very tolerably compared to before.
~Cardinal DeVito,archbishop and ruler of Cherry Ridge~

OOC: Well, well... at it again are we? I should expect nothing less from you.

IC:

The United Imperium of Crossman condemns these true acts of intolerance and openly invite any of members of persecuted religions in Cherry Ridge and Haven14 to relocate to the United Imperium to escape their cruel and oppressive governments.

-Emperor Alan Robert Ezriel Crossman II

The Governing Corporation of FallschrimmJager, the FallCorp would like to commend the CherryRidge Leadership for their efforts in expanding tolerance in their nation.
The FallCorp sposors humintarian aid services all over the globe.
Our efforts we feel would be well expended on removing some of the less then desirable citizens from your shores as we understand that it is the protection of national Ideology that is sought.
FallschrimmJager does not operate a military.
We offer to begin removing CherryRidge exiles at no cost to the CHerryRidge government.
We hope this will aid in stabilizing the social structure of your nation so you may engage in further efforts of tolerance and open mindedness.
Sincerely
Vice President
Katherine Hoffschteder

OOC:
Haven14, I should point out that this is a step forward made by CR, and that any congratulations given should be made as a result of increasing religious tolerance.

Independant Wiccans, I already mentioned that Shintoism and Taoism are out. Also, Islam is still allowed, and as I understand the Baha'i Faith, it isn't outlawed by this act. And since when have Satanists and Setians stayed out of other people's business?

Also, and of most importance to most of those who have posted: This act is being made as part of a peace treaty that Cherry Ridge is a party to. CR has pledged to allow free passage to those wishing to leave the country. Myself and the other prospective signitaries of the treaty will ensure that CR upholds his end of the deal, but I for one have faith that all will go accordingly.

We alreadsy have an arangement with Siesatia, Democratic Colonies, and Balrogga, to go there if they wish to flee. Thanks for the offer though.
-Cardinal DeVito-

At least you are doing something smart (for once) by letting them leave.

My nation has recently abolished all religion, seeing as they're all lies. Those Christians got a little upset about it, so I decided to kill them. Stupid Christians, always ruining everything.

Originally Posted by Bryle
My nation has recently abolished all religion, seeing as they're all lies. Those Christians got a little upset about it, so I decided to kill them. Stupid Christians, always ruining everything.
Please keep boasts of human rights violations in your own threads, thank you.

To whoever it may concern,

I, Datu Bato, Secretary of State for the Republic of Mga Anak ni Bathala, invite non-Catholics to visit, invest or perhaps immigrate to our country.


Datu Bato,
Secretary of State, Republic of Mga Anak ni Bathala

;)

My nation has recently abolished all religion, seeing as they're all lies. Those Christians got a little upset about it, so I decided to kill them. Stupid Christians, always ruining everything.
IC:
Admiral Gunn saw this message and said, "Stupid nOOb." as he threw a dart at a picture of Bryle's leader. He then threw his attention to CR and said, "Are there any taxes on Protestants? If so, remove them or we might just have a little 'talk' about that. Other than that, you're doing good"

Independant Wiccans, I already mentioned that Shintoism and Taoism are out. Also, Islam is still allowed, and as I understand the Baha'i Faith, it isn't outlawed by this act. And since when have Satanists and Setians stayed out of other people's business?


I was quickly rollimh some off, sorry 'bout the repeats. Re-read his terms again, typical Christian doctrine would also ban Islam and the Baha'i Faith, although he can claim exception (it depends on how you interpret the meaning behind his words, generally in a case like this he would push them to include many other religions).

Since when did you see Setians invading other people's countries and trying to get active discrimination laws passed in their nation? In fact, like most people, do you still think Satanism is linked to Christian faith? Setians have a strict policy of non-interference unless actively provoked. They prefer to work underground, studying and learning.

Have you ever seen a Setian? Probably, but wouldn't know. They just keep it secret from most people, there are many times more Setians than (official) Gardenarian Wiccans... and I know at least three of the latter.

Anyway *closes hijack* back to the topic at hand. WE ROUNDLY CONDEMN EVERYBODY. :D

Although we welcome people of any faith, we would be particularly glad to receive any Kemetic followers. They would feel quite at home here, and certainly wouldn't face the persecution they are likely to find in the Tarnished Lands of Cherry Ridge.

May the gods smile down on you.

Sincerely;

Representative for Foreign Business
The Spiritual Community of Ra-Horakty

Belem strongly encourages Cherry Ridge to repeal the tolerance laws and return to allowing only the One True Faith to exist in Cherry Ridge.

To all who shall see or hear this, know ye that this act, shall provide for the religious tolerance in the Catholic Cardinalatial See of Cherry Ridge, except for the outlined religions stated below:
1-All religions involving the worship of the devil, or satan
2-All religions worshipping, or believeing in, more than one God
3-Any religon that its intent is to mock the true church, the Catholic Church
4-Any religons that uses magic, or witchcraft, including wicca
5- Any goddess worshipping religion
Know Ye that any follower of the above stated religon shall face banishment from Cherry Ridge

All religions other than the Catholic Church will have their income taxed, property taxed, and their ministerns may not preach against the Catholic Church or against any of her priests, deacons, or bishops, and upong meating the Cardinal shall pay him the proper respect.
Ministers not preaching the trinity, must get licences.

Given my hand, in the service of the lord Jesus Christ, I do hereby sign this

His Eminence Cardinal DeVito
Archbishop of Cherry Ridge
Ruler of Cherry Ridge
Servant of the Lord
Priest in the Catholic Church


We would like to remind the Cardinal, that the Catholic Church has technical magic in it's doctrines i.e. the transformation in the Eucharist. We would also like to remind said Cardinal that the Orthodox Church has as much claim as Catholic Church to being the 'one true church'.

We condemn your policies in so far as that we see them as downright silly to say that such an organisation as the Catholic Church holds supremacy over all beings and faiths.

In this matter we reflect the views of the Lords of Night & Shadow (our gods).

Regards,

The Guild of External Affairs,

My nation has recently abolished all religion, seeing as they're all lies. Those Christians got a little upset about it, so I decided to kill them. Stupid Christians, always ruining everything.

OOC:But thats technically a religion having no religion :)

OOC: Intolerance is a religion in itself sometimes...

OOC: Maybe not a religion, but I would agree if you said faith :headbang:

Our Empire of Falangist States endorse this tolerance acts and will adopted. Catholicism is an esential part of our culture, and should have an privileged spot in our empire. But we also believe in te separation of the Church and the State. The State dont mess with the church and The Church dont mess with the State.

Total religious freedom has been one of the pillars of Free Avestopol society since it's inception. However, we applaud this act of tolerance, since while it is limited, it represents a major step towards greater religious freedom.

We hope that Cherry Ridge will continue its path of reform, while continuing to respect the spiritual well being of its people.

Nikolai Kirov

Head of Foreign Affairs

Free Avestopol

Ah yes, religious tolerance as practised by our good Catholic friends. :headbang:

We of Kempelhoff provide for the practise of any faith, or the absence of it, as long as it shall commit no personal harm against another, in body or mind.

Open tranmission to Crazed Marines-
We will not remove the tax on protestants.

OOC: You know, I just thought. With how much you hate other people's religions and are against them, I'd like to know how there are any non-catholics left in your nation? I know damn well they didn't move there. I just thought I would bring that up, since you are constantly persecuting people that aren't how you want them.

OOC: You know, I just thought. With how much you hate other people's religions and are against them, I'd like to know how there are any non-catholics left in your nation? I know damn well they didn't move there. I just thought I would bring that up, since you are constantly persecuting people that aren't how you want them.
ooc-Yes, they were underground. I hunted most down, but a few thousand survived. The second largest religion is Anglicanism, with its Bishop co-chairing the council on religious relations with Father Heifinger.

The Democratic Federation of Azzion condemns this alleged "Tolerance" act as intolerant and discriminatory.

The DF is proud of its religious diversity, with nearly 100 religions and sects (including the "Big 5" of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) having at least three houses of worship in our nation, with nearly 50 smaller sects. All citizens are entitled to the same inalienable rights, regardless of spiritual beliefs.

Sections 24.56-24.61 of Azzion's Governing Codes state as such, in layman's terms:

The Democratic Federation of Azzion and its government:

56: "...shall not recognize any religion, or religious sect, or designate as such
the 'state church...'"

56a: "...shall not use religion as the basis for any legislation, diplomatic and/or military action, or any other course of action..."

56b: "...shall not recognize the use of religion in a political party..."

57: "...will give each citzen and resident the liberty to worship as each so chooses..."

58: "...shall not collect tithes, or taxes to fund a church or religion..."

58a: "...shall not designate money to a religious organization, organizations listed in 'Church And Charity Act,' dated 09:27:2004 excepted."

59: "...shall not outlaw any religion or church..."

60: "...shall not regulate the practices of any church, except for practices listed in the 'Azzionese Church and Community Act,' dated 10:01:2004..."

61: "...will not deny any rights to any citizen on the basis of religious or spiritual beliefs."

The Church and Charity Act, in short, allows government donations to faith-based charitable organizations, pending that the work of the charity does not coincide with political church beliefs. (e.g. Azzion will NOT fund, in any way, a Catholic charity that refuses birth control or an abortion to a woman on the basis of "it's against church law.") Organizations not covered under this Act are permitted to receive donations from elected officials, pending an individual donation does not exceed £600 (OOC: around $800 USD)

The Democratic Federation of Azzion and her people encourage you to reconsider this Act.

ooc-again this is a step forward for us is tolerance.

Open tranmission to Crazed Marines-
We will not remove the tax on protestants.
How much tax is this again?

OOC: CR, you're comming close to having CM declare war on you. You know it's bad when your allies start threatening you with military action.

The tax is a regular property tax.
I am doing my part of the treaty which we are about to sign. Siesatia finds this acceptable.

For those who say repeal, you are asking me to go back to Catholcism only,even worse than this. THIS IS A STEP FORWARD.

I don't agree with it totally, but I agree it is indeed a major step forward

We ask that you then repeal the tax on Baptists at least. They don't demonise or make fun of Catholics...well, the first part at least...

No, we can not play favorites with the protestants.
They are not allowed to make fun of Catholics, acording to the act.

OOC: I'm sure that CM wouldn't attack, since he could simply donate large sums of money from his huge storefront to the religious groups being taxed. Actually, that sounds pretty good.

IC:
The government of New Exodus, at the urging of Colonial Commander Haase, has decided to donate twenty million Universal Standard Dollars to assist religious groups in Cherry Ridge. After income taxes, the remaining money will be used to pay the property tax.

However, before the money is actually transferred, Commander Haase wishes to urge the Cardinal to remove the tax on the non-Catholics. A devout person would not give up their religion simply because it is a financial burden. If they did switch over to Catholicism, would it be a benefit to have someone who's faith changes due to financial reasons? All the tax does is hurt the community and make life harder on those who the Church would want to convert. Certainly it is not the wishes of the Church to cause pointless suffering, so why not repeal the tax?

Most of the money is paying for the protestant-catholic relations comitee's sctivites, and about2% for other things.

So the tax would take out part of the 10% that goes to help run the church and its charitable givings.

Holy Paradise applauds this new tolerance act. Even though we are a conservative Catholic nation, this is indeed a great thing for all Christians.

Holy Paradise applauds this new tolerance act. Even though we are a conservative Catholic nation, this is indeed a great thing for all Christians.

Yes, Christians. Cherry Ridge will recieve no applause from us until his tolerance goes beyond just Christians.

Yes, Christians. Cherry Ridge will recieve no applause from us until his tolerance goes beyond just Christians.
it does. it includes Jews, muslims, and Bhuddists. Any monotheistic religion.

I,Cardinal DeVito, being of sound mind and body, do hereby revoke this Act of Religious Tolerance.

Signed,
Cardinal DeVito
Archbishop and Ruler of Cherry Ridge
Chairman of the Alliance of Christian Nations

While unhappy with the previous stance, we lament this step back toward further oppression. We renew our previous offer of open borders to all refugees fleeing this fearful regime.

Jeff C Gorevomit, Slaytanicca

Oh, well I suppose that something better and more open-minded will be made in its place? [/hopeful]

No, actually, he is trying to get back at me, DC, Balrogga, and DLE. Since in all four of our timelines, CR was invaded and destroyed, I have no care what he does anymore. He is all your's. But this is definately going on my Wiki page.

ooc- This is all part of a greater chain of events. You will find out what it is if you watch my actions. It is not a crusade, inquisition or anything like that.

OOC: I tired to put a lock on my nation's religion once. Now I'm at war with Two other nations.

No, actually, he is trying to get back at me, DC, Balrogga, and DLE. Since in all four of our timelines, CR was invaded and destroyed, I have no care what he does anymore. He is all your's. But this is definately going on my Wiki page.


ooc:
I don't have CR ignored. I am, however, mostly ignoring what happened once we got St. John Berchman's Isle through our negotiations.

ooc- the new ruler will implement full religious freedom
DC, I invite you to attend the corronation, here is the thread,
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386822

I am still hopeful that Cheery Ridge will see that a religious tax would take money out of the pockets of the Church and members. Such money that this tax takes could be used to help run the Church more efficiently or give to help the less fortunate much more effectively. As a devout Southern Baptist and the friends of many Catholics, I hope Cherry Ridge will see that the taxing of another Christian sect is immoral and I believe that God would frown on such a thing.
-President Kowalski

OOC: ...and Setism, Shamanism, Wicca, Sikhism, Muslims, Asatru, Druidism, Caodaism, Zoroastrianism, Lukumi, Shinto, Taoism, Confucianism, Baha'i Faith etc etc....

IC: Religious tolerance? :rolleyes:

Our nation has a simple religious tolerance law: You are allowed to be a fully supported member of our nation so long as you respect TRUE religious tolerance. The Christians were thrown out a few decades ago due to constant murders and beatings in the name of God. The rest of the community got sick of it and the Wiccans challenged their actions. The Wiccans and Druids won the following civil war pretty easily (being able to conduct magick and being easily the majority). Terrorists and criminals are the only exception to the tolerance rules. All Christians we've had except twenty five sensible practioners of the faith (who are still citizens) are all considered criminals for discriminating against homosexuals, Wiccans and Muslims. That's why after the civil war almost all were thrown out of the country.

OOC: At least Satanists/Setians stay out of other people's business :D
I've seen plenty of atheist conservatives discriminate in the same way, and plenty of Christians (like myself) who don't discriminate against them. What about the Muslims that discriminate against Christians, by say, 'spilling their infidel blood?' There are times when I've seen pagans try to place curses on Christians. That and the fact that Wiccans have no real mystic power; those that think they do are delusional.
Don't be such a tool.

Official Statement From Red Tide
"Religion, Shimisionism. We only allow 3 types of religions here in Red Tide. And we couldnt give a damn about what they do(as long as it doesnt harm our pro- errrrrrr, interests)."