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Galactic Exploration, Defense, and Research Alliance (GEDRA)

The purpose of the GEDRA is to provide a cooperative effort between advanced space-faring cultures, in the pursuit of galactic, and general space related exploration, mapping, defense, and general research into spatial phenomena.

The provisions of this alliance are as follows:

1. Members conducting exploratory missions will provide detailed maps and charts of newly discovered regions of space. In doing this, the overall cost in both men and equipment can be alleviated through sharing of charts. As such, there will be a cut back on the need of multiple charting of the same space by different members. However, primacy of colonization, within newly discovered systems goes to that member world/system which discovered it.
2. Such charts will include the relative mass, density, and composition of all stellar and planetary bodies in said regions of space, for the benefit of Faster Than Light navigation through these systems.
3. All newly discovered spatial phenomena by members will be reported to GEDRA, thereby allowing alliance members the ability to team research efforts into the understanding and impact these phenomena have. All gleaned research data collected by GEDRA backed research, will be shared by all member worlds/systems. This is not to construe that any independent research need be shared, only that which is attained via the GEDRA provisions.
4. No member world/nation may go to war with any other member without first appeal to a meeting of representatives of all member worlds/systems in the alliance.
5. No member world/system will interfere in the internal affairs or politics of another member world/system.
6. No member world/system will engage in piracy, or other such means upon other member worlds/system or any other space-faring or non space-faring culture.
7. No member world/system will interfere with the development or advancement of any culture that has not attained interstellar travel.
8. All contests of colonization or defense, between member worlds/systems, will be presented before a meeting of representatives from all member worlds/systems for deliberation and arbitration.
9. Deliberation by GEDRA will be done by one representative from each member world/system, each representative will have one vote, and a vote must possess a two-thirds (2/3) majority to pass.
10. Additions or removal of provisions to this alliance will be done by deliberation as outlined under Article 8, however, a complete majority and consensus is needed.

Signatories of the Galactic Exploration, Defense, and Research Alliance:
The Constitutional Republic of Tekania
The Incorporated States of Shadow Tech
The Dominion of Godular
The Orbital Colonies of New Exodus
The Isolated System of Comdidia
The Holy Imperium of Nascot
The Confederacy of Xessmithia
The Constitutional Monarchy of -Bretonia-
The Imperial Coalition of Setian-Sebeceans

The Incorporated States of Shadow Tech wishes to join the GEDRA. Though some could consider Shadow Tech to be somewhat knew to the field of space, we have had much experience in that short time. We constantly explore as much as we can and think that it would be beneficial to both us and the GEDRA if we are permitted to join.

-Shadow Tech Senate

The Incorporated States of Shadow Tech wishes to join the GEDRA. Though some could consider Shadow Tech to be somewhat knew to the field of space, we have had much experience in that short time. We constantly explore as much as we can and think that it would be beneficial to both us and the GEDRA if we are permitted to join.

-Shadow Tech Senate

Shadow Tech is welcomed, and added to the list of signatories...

In addition, the provisionary document will be considered in effect as soon as 5 member worlds/systems have signed...

The Dominion is interested in Joining this alliance. Any agreement we can be apart of with respect to technological research is naught but flowers and kittens to us, which is a good thing of course, barring people homicidally inclined against youthful felines and colorful floral arrangments.

We suspect you will also find us a tremendous defensive asset as well, should any other signatory nations come under attack. Especially against nations that go along the lines of "Bigger is Better" and "Death Star 453452665.0 = YAY!"

One question though: We're kinda based in a VERY isolated region of interdimensional space, having acquired our own uninhabited version of NS earth. Do we only have to submit star charts recorded by our ships when they're in YOUR plane of existence?

The Dominion is interested in Joining this alliance. Any agreement we can be apart of with respect to technological research is naught but flowers and kittens to us, which is a good thing of course, barring people homicidally inclined against youthful felines and colorful floral arrangments.

We suspect you will also find us a tremendous defensive asset as well, should any other signatory nations come under attack. Especially against nations that go along the lines of "Bigger is Better" and "Death Star 453452665.0 = YAY!"

One question though: We're kinda based in a VERY isolated region of interdimensional space, having acquired our own uninhabited version of NS earth. Do we only have to submit star charts recorded by our ships when they're in YOUR plane of existence?

Your participation is welcomed... and you have been added as signatory...

In response to your questions....

All charts are to be provided, regardless of plane. Even though one may not be able to reach the other. While physical and spatial information and defense is the purpose of this, there is no need of sharing propulsion technologies between members, however any member can feel free to do so, if they like.

Given the Republics use of Kraskinov based artificial wormhole technology, it is likely we could reach your space, however, most other drive technologies including hyperspace, transwarp, and warp are unlikely to allow such... However, if one nations aquires or develops such technologies, star charts of new regions to them will aid in their safe navigation, especially in the use of transwarp, hyperspace, wormhole, and jump technologies.

Thing is, we're kinda in the wacky region of superspace, although our host world seems to be a bastion amidst a sea of utter weird.

We've been exploring a few of the closer dimensions to our own, and already have documented a world in which lasers don't work worth squat, and all the critters are covered in purple and green plaid fur. Where the evolutionary stimulus for such colors came from, we don't know, apart from a rather annoying predator that can't see complex color arrangments.

You ever see a teddy bear snap a man in half? We have... poor sucker took off his camo jacket and got snagged almost immediately. Was quite entertaining when the critter got shot nine hundred times from out of nowhere (according to it, at least).

We also have information on a rather interesting dimension in which every dang critter is a shapeshifter. Seems to work on our planet too, so we're studying geneological information at the moment.

Again I have to ask if you've ever seen a teddy bear snap a man in half. Only we THOUGHT it was a cactus. And whatever you do, DON'T WHISTLE! FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER HIGHER LEVEL DEITY HAPPENS TO HOLD YOUR ATTENTION AT THE MOMENT, DON'T WHISTLE!

Beyond that, more of the same.

Thing is, we're kinda in the wacky region of superspace, although our host world seems to be a bastion amidst a sea of utter weird.

We've been exploring a few of the closer dimensions to our own, and already have documented a world in which lasers don't work worth squat, and all the critters are covered in purple and green plaid fur. Where the evolutionary stimulus for such colors came from, we don't know, apart from a rather annoying predator that can't see complex color arrangments.

You ever see a teddy bear snap a man in half? We have... poor sucker took off his camo jacket and got snagged almost immediately. Was quite entertaining when the critter got shot nine hundred times from out of nowhere (according to it, at least).

We also have information on a rather interesting dimension in which every dang critter is a shapeshifter. Seems to work on our planet too, so we're studying geneological information at the moment.

Again I have to ask if you've ever seen a teddy bear snap a man in half. Only we THOUGHT it was a cactus. And whatever you do, DON'T WHISTLE! FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER HIGHER LEVEL DEITY HAPPENS TO HOLD YOUR ATTENTION AT THE MOMENT, DON'T WHISTLE!

Beyond that, more of the same.

Well, we have run accross the dangerous and deadly Ravenous Blugbladder Beast of Trall, which while deadly and fierce is mind bogglingly stupid. The only defense against this creature is to wrap a towel over your face... The beast is so stupid that it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you, and will therefore ignore you.

We're still trying to figure out where these teddy bears get their strength. They're so small, yet their guts... are... so BIG...

Again, studying geneological information. We only hope that the critter's strength isn't tied to its inability to discern polkadot.



Another world you might be interested in is one where we found that for some odd reason Hydrogen clumps together in small ball-bearing size pellets. More oddly, the shift from that dimension to ours doesn't separate the pellets, but if they experience any form of kinetic impact... WOO they blow big.

I would say that our particular region of space is quite a scientific boon.

Very interesting... Your information will certainly provide much to this alliance...


Are their any more parties?

The New Exodus Colonies are based at Lagrange Point One, between Terra and Luna in the Sol system. We have only begun interstellar travel in the past few decades, but have already visited and contacted numerous other star-faring nations. We would be happy to share our knowledge, as well as take part in possible joint explorations.

--Michael Haase, Colonial Commander of New Exodus

The New Exodus Colonies are based at Lagrange Point One, between Terra and Luna in the Sol system. We have only begun interstellar travel in the past few decades, but have already visited and contacted numerous other star-faring nations. We would be happy to share our knowledge, as well as take part in possible joint explorations.

--Michael Haase, Colonial Commander of New Exodus

You are most welcomed into this alliance.... The only requirement is that you be relatively peaceful, and superluminal in capacity... We're not going to make point of advancement past that.

Are their any others?

Yer gonna haveta bump a few times.

[last bump of the day...]

le boomp

[bumpity bump bump]

The Confederacy is currently debating joining this alliance in parliment. Once a result has been reached you will be informed.

Harold Juxton
Prime Minister of Xessmithia

At the moment, New Exodus vessels have visited Coreworlds, the American Republic, a planet in Siesatian territory, and space around Yavin 4.

We are working on constructing a long-distance transport system with Opinno, and are trying to develop a trans-dimensional drive.

We will gladly share all of this information with our fellow members.

~Uploads Star-charts~

Also, we would like to motion that section 7 of the rules be amended. As many modern-tech nations have been threatened by future-tech nations, it is the preference of New Exodus that member nations be allowed to assist in defending modern-tech nations from future-tech nations. For example, we are currently defending the nation of Cherry Ridge from several superluminal nations which have threatened the use of orbital bombardment. In our view, this is an abuse of superior technology, and must not occur.

The Minasian Empire is considering joining GEDRA. The decision is before the Imperial Senate and if passed must be verified by our Emperor.

If we join we would ask that we will not be pressured to release our technology to others, we pride ourselves on the divine power of our technology and guard it from other powers who may abuse it. In return for this we will use our reality projection technology to fashion whatever GEDRA requires.

The Minasian Empire is considering joining GEDRA. The decision is before the Imperial Senate and if passed must be verified by our Emperor.

If we join we would ask that we will not be pressured to release our technology to others, we pride ourselves on the divine power of our technology and guard it from other powers who may abuse it. In return for this we will use our reality projection technology to fashion whatever GEDRA requires.

Understood, we too possess Propulsion Technologies that we do not hand our readily...

The alliance is primarily for mapping and research purposes (into stellar phenomena and such)... there is no requirement for nations to trade weapons, propulsion, armor, shield, or other "hard" technologies...

At the moment, New Exodus vessels have visited Coreworlds, the American Republic, a planet in Siesatian territory, and space around Yavin 4.

We are working on constructing a long-distance transport system with Opinno, and are trying to develop a trans-dimensional drive.

We will gladly share all of this information with our fellow members.

~Uploads Star-charts~

Also, we would like to motion that section 7 of the rules be amended. As many modern-tech nations have been threatened by future-tech nations, it is the preference of New Exodus that member nations be allowed to assist in defending modern-tech nations from future-tech nations. For example, we are currently defending the nation of Cherry Ridge from several superluminal nations which have threatened the use of orbital bombardment. In our view, this is an abuse of superior technology, and must not occur.

The Tekanian Orion Class SCV's, TRSS Orion, TRSS Zeus, and TRSS Chronos, as well as the Orion-II Class SCV TRSS Tiamat are available, if you need assistance in defense.

The Confederacy is currently debating joining this alliance in parliment. Once a result has been reached you will be informed.

Harold Juxton
Prime Minister of Xessmithia

Having prior knowledge of Xessmithia, you presence, if you indeed so choose, would be most welcomed.

The Isolated System of Comdidia would like to join GEDRA, after the decision was quickly made by the Dictator and his fellow siblings.

The Isolated System of Comdidia would like to join GEDRA, after the decision was quickly made by the Dictator and his fellow siblings.

You are welcomed... You name has been added to the list of signatories...

For the join benefit of defense in GEDRA, Tekania has began laying down the keels for 7 new Orion-II class SCV's

Existing Orion Class SCV's
BSG-1, TRSS Orion (Assigned 'Eagle One' personal flag of the Chief of Stellar Operations)
BSG-2, TRSS Pegasus, 1st Fleet Flagship
BSG-3, TRSS Chronos, 2nd Fleet Flagship
BSG-4, TRSS Zeus, 3rd Fleet Flagship

Orion-II Class SCV's
BSGX-5, TRSS Kraskinov (Lost in trials)
BSG-6, TRSS Titan, Deep-Space Exploration...
BSG-7, TRSS Thor, Deep-Space Exploration...
BSG-8, TRSS Tiamat, Deep-Space Exploration...

New Additions upcoming... Orion-II
BSG-9, TRSS Anubis, Under Construction
BSG-10, TRSS Hathor, Under Construction
BSG-11, TRSS Ra, Under Construction
BSG-12, TRSS Poseidon, Under Construction
BSG-13, TRSS Odin, Under Construction
BSG-14, TRSS Freyr, Under Construction
BSG-15, TRSS Loki, Under Contruction

The Minasian Empire after deliberation requests membership in GEDRA. Our battlefleet will prioritise aid requests from GEDRA members in the future, we also give GEDRA memners free passage through all our territories and access to our outposts.

Also to aid in the defense of GEDRA we are constructing 5 new Promethius Cannons. These weapons have a slow rate of fire and require vast amounts of energy, but we have not encountered anything tough enough to withstand their power.

/ooc "SCV"? The acronym escapes me at the moment

The Dominion is currently ramping up its construction efforts to complete the new capital-ship capable shipyards, hoping that we will be able to start churning out Godulan Juggernauts at our own pleasing rate.

Secret Addendum:

We suspect that you will find our defensive systems... more than adequate when it comes to defeating superweapons such as Imperial superlasers. A simple voidshield placed directly in front of a superlaser, or any other high-yield energy weapon, just as said superweapon fires, causes the beam to react VERY energetically to the Protospace void, effectively erupting back in the direction of the laser source with approximately twice the power that went in. We can, quite frankly, make the Death Star blow up in its own face.

T'will be a sight to behold.

Techwanking is quite stupid, Godular. I doubt anyone would actually accept you useing that.

/ooc nobody voiced objections to when I first came up with it.

'sides, all it means is y'all people with the big-ass weapons of hyper-mega-uber death will have to resort to more conventional weapons. Consider this a counter-tech-wank.

In that case Godular, I'm not only glad to be in the same alliance with you, but that if for some unfathomable reason we did have a conflict, I'm glad I still use a lot of projectile and missile weapons.

But more importantly, does anyone like my suggestion from earlier:
Also, we would like to motion that section 7 of the rules be amended. As many modern-tech nations have been threatened by future-tech nations, it is the preference of New Exodus that member nations be allowed to assist in defending modern-tech nations from future-tech nations.
I think this is an important amendment, since I'd hate for us to watch a modern-tech nation invaded/bombarded from orbit by a future-tech nation.

New Exodus: I find myself both happy and disconcerted by that. But yes, kinetic based weapons, and spatial flux cannons (like ours) do not cause this reaction in a protospace void. Seems the reaction is only caused by direct application of energy, such as laser fire or direct electrical exposure.

As for the amendment, I suspect it happens seldom enough that amending it shouldn't be too much of a problem, but we do wish to add a second amendment to make certain that we can investigate whether the Modern-Tech nation under attack did or did not provoke the FT nation into attacking.

Unprovoked attacks on an MT nation by an FT should be dealt with, but if the MT brought it on itself, leave it to its own devices. We don't need to spend our resources defending a bunch of noobs that piss off the Imperials (well, piss off MORE, anyway) for no good reason, then call for help when the roof comes a-crashing down.

To the GEDRA leadership,

After much debate within parliment a final resolution was reached on joining the GEDRA. It is my pleasure to announce that the parliment voted in favor of joining 381 to 79.

Included in this transmission are the protocols for astrogation using the Xessmithian Beacon Pulsar Network. This system is extremly accurate within the galactic plane, and an excellent backup for transgalactic astrogation. It involves detecting the unique signal of at least 3 pulsars and using them to triangulate your position.

Best regards,
Harold Juxton
Members of Parliment

I agree with defending MT nations as long as they didn't provoke the FT nation into attacking it.

Nascot and Xessmithia... Your status has been accepted...

OOC: Godular, SCV, stands for "Sector Control Vessel"... they are the the largest capital vessels in the Tekanian arsenal, generally between 13 and 19 million metric tons, and between 1.2 and 1.8 kilometers in length...

On behalf of Comdida, I say we vote on the aforementioned addition to the Charter... Should we defend MT nations against FT aggressors, if the attack was not provoked by them?

After much political deliberations, and a objection by Her Majesty the Queen and the BRAF (which have since been set to rest), the Constitutional Monarchy of Bretonia would like to express an interest in joinng this alliance of nations. Being isolated for as long as we have, we can only offer data on seven star systems, only one of which is outside our territory, but we are intent on exploring other systems in the near future. Also, we seem to be lacking the billions of space faring vessels that others seem to have in abundance, so I'm unsure of how much use our resources would be in a war. However, we'd be there all the same (OOC: Link in signature).

If you do however agree to let us join, we would be most grateful. I am approaching you instead of a politician as Parliament thought that this is a matter best dealt with by our organisation, as we are responsible for exploration and defence on behalf of the people of Bretonia.

Sincerely,
Admiral Rochester
Chief of Strategic Operations,
Bretonia Royal Armed Forces,
New London Military Facility,
New London.

After much political deliberations, and a objection by Her Majesty the Queen and the BRAF (which have since been set to rest), the Constitutional Monarchy of Bretonia would like to express an interest in joinng this alliance of nations. Being isolated for as long as we have, we can only offer data on seven star systems, only one of which is outside our territory, but we are intent on exploring other systems in the near future. Also, we seem to be lacking the billions of space faring vessels that others seem to have in abundance, so I'm unsure of how much use our resources would be in a war. However, we'd be there all the same (OOC: Link in signature).

If you do however agree to let us join, we would be most grateful. I am approaching you instead of a politician as Parliament thought that this is a matter best dealt with by our organisation, as we are responsible for exploration and defence on behalf of the people of Bretonia.

Sincerely,
Admiral Rochester
Chief of Strategic Operations,
Bretonia Royal Armed Forces,
New London Military Facility,
New London.

Bretoria is most welcomed. Perhapse this will give you a further launching point. And I'm sure you nation would benefit in their exploratory efforts from the others of the alliance... I am sure your nations will grow one day, from this, to be much more participatory...

Thank you for accepting our nation into the alliance. We shall make available stellar charts of the Great Barrier, an unusual phenomenon in itself, as well as our seven solar systems (listed), to anybody who requires them. It's not much, but the HMS Victoria is scheduled to make a mapping run of a newly discovered system in a few months time.

New London System -- Location of the Capital Planet, only inhabited planet; Planet New London. Extensive network of trade lanes and space stations, extensive asteroid mining, extensive ship construction facilities, extensive police presence. Location of the jump gate hub, the primary control facility for the jump gate network. HMS Suffolk permanently stationed in New London.
Leeds System -- Location of extensive uranium and metal mining facilities, one inhabited planet; Planet Leeds. Largest source of Bretonian raw materials. HMS York permanently stationed in Leeds.
Cambridge System -- Location of Cambridge University and Cambridge Reseach Station, one inhabited planet; Planet Cambridge. Nearest system to the Great Barrier.
Manchester System -- No inhabited planets, asteroid mining in progress. Nothing of interest.
Edinburgh System -- No inhabited planet, one habitable planet; Planet Gaia, currently off-limits due to species cataloguing. Only all-natural planet in Bretonian space, extensive wildlife and plantlife. Planet a frequent reason for terrorist activities, also the S&CL Shetland is in orbit, allowing a minimal tourism industry.
Dublin System -- No planets, habitable or otherwise. Extensive gold mining from huge asteroid fields -- fields believed to be the remnants of a long-destroyed planetary system. Military operations extensive in this system due to terrorist bases. HMS Hood and HMS Essex permanently stationed in Dublin.
Alpha-Epsilon System -- No inhabitable planets, 4 gas giants. First system we have explored outside the Great Barrier; only a Bretonian space station and jump gate exist here. HMS Coventry and HMS Norfolk permanently stationed here. Unidentified spatial anomaly has been documented, it apparently orbits the sun along the same path as the outer planet. Scientists unable to determine what it is, however close proximity to the anomaly creates unusual turbulence.

We will also distribute codes to access the jump gate network to anyone in this alliance who wishes to enter Bretonian space. Jump gates provide the only (safe) path through the Great Barrier, and it is highly difficult to gain access to the jump gate and generate a jump hole without a valid code. Terrorists and pirates have been known to hack into them, though. The only jump gate currently operating outside the Great Barrier is in the Alpha-Epsilon system. Border Station Ludlow may request additional identification along with valid entrance codes. Coordinates of Alpha-Epsilon are included in this transmission. Interface with the jump gate network to gain coordinates for the other six systems.

If our new friends require additional information or anything else from us, give the word and we will help if it is within our capabilities.

Sincerely,
Admiral Rochester
Chief of Strategic Operations,
Bretonia Royal Armed Forces.

/ooc Freelancer rocked.

I vote no on the defensive act.

The Orbital Colonies of New Exodus vote "yea" on the motion to allow defense of non-aggressor MT nations.

We urge others to join us in shielding those who have not yet achieved inter-stellar travel from predation by our fellow starfarers.

/ooc Freelancer rocked.

OOC: It sure did. It sure did :D

Xessmithia also votes for the motion that allows the defense of MT nations against agressor FT nations.

The Patriarch Emperor of the Imperial Coalition of Setian-Sebeceans requests membership to the GEDRA. In addition we would like to send two Medium Expeditionary Carrier Fleets to be under joint control of the GEDRA.

We also call for a protected planets treaty for young space nations (under 200 mill)

The Minasian Empire votes yes on the defensive act, we however expect the policy that the MT nation did not incite FT nation attack to be strictly upheld.

On a side note: Enclosed is a brief report of our territories, defences and discoveries.

Minas System - Seat of our Holy Empire, guarded by several of our battlefleets and the Raphaloid Legion of the Emperor. The system is in many ways similar to that of Earth, except the planets are a lot closer together and much more hospitable.
It is also guarded by The Judication - The Empires greatest achievement, a ship of titanic proportions, its power comes from one of our reality projection spheres, but on a huge scale. Thus, giving it indefinate power to runs its weapons, which in turn are created by lesser spheres, allowing the ship to modify its weapons to suit the enemy at hand. Truly it can be said that after 200 years of construction we have built a tactical masterpiece that serves as the keystone on the defense forces at Minas.

Tasken System - Remote and desolate, the only safe method to reach it is through our network of eternity gates of which only we control. The whole system serves as the hub for our military, with worlds dedicated to research, manufacturing and for raw material mining.

Haratai System - Home to a primitive race. The haratai are humanoid but far taler and stronger, yet are thin. They follow a path comparable to that of the ancient samurai, warrior monks. They are under the Minasian Empire protection until they become strong enough to enter galactic affairs for themselves, this may take centuries as they are distrustful of technology, viewing it as unpredictable magic.

Merus System - A system of planets covered in ancient ruins, translations of engraved scripture point to a highly advanced alien race that once ruled most of the galaxy, their last pieces of scripture mention and unstoppable force that consumed their worlds, a force we ourselves have come to face in the dark region.

The Dark Region - A collective of 20 odd systems, all ruled by a race that are to all intents and purposes immortal. Dubbed entities, these evil creatures enslave other races and cover conquered worlds in darkness. They appear to be some kind of highly evolved virus, neither living nor dead, a parasite that can never be truly killed.

If the motion to defend fellow GEDRA members becomes compulsory, Shadow Tech will have no choice but to resign.

If the motion to defend fellow GEDRA members becomes compulsory, Shadow Tech will have no choice but to resign.

Which motion is this? We are only aware of the motion to allow defence of MT nations against an unprovoked attack by a FT nation.

If you are reffering to Setian-Sebeceans's proposal for a "Protected Planet Treay" for FT nations under 200 million in population I agree in principle as such a treaty would be impossible to maintain.

The Imperial Coalition of Setian-Sebeceans's request for membership is noted, and she is added to the signatories...

On the present motions, I do would disagree in principle with the Protected Planets Treaty, as it is presently mentioned... However, perhapse a compromise can be reached on this point alleviating its impossible present position...

Perhapse a proposal of ammendment to the present GEDRA treaty, to allow for the existance of a "Protected Planets Treaty" however, rather than the treaty being all encompassory, those planets who request status under said treaty must maintain certain stipulations under said treaty... As such, each planets request for protection would be under the pervue of a council decision be GEDRA signatories as governed under Article 9, and those planets under the treaty would need to maintain certain stipulations to remain under treaty protection. Likely candidates for stipulatory clauses, would be the dismantling of the planets stellar war capability, and possible territorial limitations in their travels... If there are any other ideas or additions to this idea, please feel free to voice them...

Since the MT/FT aspect of defense is also failing, what about the possible ammendment to allow MT nations to request deliberation of the matter before the GEDRA council? So instead of providing blanket statements on criteria, these can be met in council, where deliberation can be handled on a case by case basis?

In any case, if said ammendments are well developed, we will put them before the GEDRA council, where they will need to meet Article 10 requirements to be put into effect.

I do not suggest making in complusory, but any nations willing to protect smaller nations that don't get into wars can. But your right with such a treaty, smaller nations will try to get into wars and have us try to bail them out, so basically scrap the idea.

The Imperial Coalition of Setian-Sebeceans's request for membership is noted, and she is added to the signatories...

On the present motions, I do would disagree in principle with the Protected Planets Treaty, as it is presently mentioned... However, perhapse a compromise can be reached on this point alleviating its impossible present position...

Perhapse a proposal of ammendment to the present GEDRA treaty, to allow for the existance of a "Protected Planets Treaty" however, rather than the treaty being all encompassory, those planets who request status under said treaty must maintain certain stipulations under said treaty... As such, each planets request for protection would be under the pervue of a council decision be GEDRA signatories as governed under Article 9, and those planets under the treaty would need to maintain certain stipulations to remain under treaty protection. Likely candidates for stipulatory clauses, would be the dismantling of the planets stellar war capability, and possible territorial limitations in their travels... If there are any other ideas or additions to this idea, please feel free to voice them...

Since the MT/FT aspect of defense is also failing, what about the possible ammendment to allow MT nations to request deliberation of the matter before the GEDRA council? So instead of providing blanket statements on criteria, these can be met in council, where deliberation can be handled on a case by case basis?

In any case, if said ammendments are well developed, we will put them before the GEDRA council, where they will need to meet Article 10 requirements to be put into effect.

Thank you, but I'm a 'He'

Thank you, but I'm a 'He'

OOC: Well, I wasn't reffering to you as a person :P but in RP as a government, in which case, "she" is the appropriate pronoun for a nation/state/government... In that sense, we are all "she's" when reffered to by lable.

OOC: Well, I wasn't reffering to you as a person :P but in RP as a government, in which case, "she" is the appropriate pronoun for a nation/state/government... In that sense, we are all "she's" when reffered to by lable.

Oh right... I knew that... But the Emperor is a 'He' and he heads the military and heads diplomatic affairs. The Prime Minister is a female and she does civil stuff and some diplomatic affairs. And is there a off-NS forum foro this Alliance? or maybe region?

I believe that in matters of war, a blanket-coverage policy regarding nations which match certain criteria (size, technology, species, whatever) is far too inclusive and far too vague. Each situation can be analysed in more detail to reveal unique, mitigating circumstances which could bring into question anybody's involvement. For example, a modern tech nation may not have directly provoked the attacking nation, but could be indirectly threatening their interests, or perhaps simply doing something completely internally which could not be tolerated by any civilised person (I don't know, mass genocide or something).
A 200 million - nation in GEDRA could be invaded, sure, but they could be asking for it. Raids on larger nations or something. The same could be said for larger nations, 1 billion +. Hoping for support from their allies, they could engage in a spree of imperialism which they cannot afford or maintain. At the same time, however, a nation of any size could put themselves in a situation they cannot handle for good, moral reasons which may also need to be considered.
The situation is unique for each incident. I think any situation should be judged on merit, not categorised and covered automatically. After all, if a situation is worthy of committing people's lives to, as well as expensive military vessels and equipment, it should at least be scrutinised first anyway.

Admiral Rochester
Chief of Strategic Operations
Bretonia Royal Armed Forces

Although the Regime of Adejaani does not wish to be a signatory member. However, we are still willing to render our assistance and participation. Namely clauses 1; 2; 3; 5; 6; and 7 and we will respect clause 4 regardless (but we do reserve the right of self defense).

Is this acceptable?

Oh right... I knew that... But the Emperor is a 'He' and he heads the military and heads diplomatic affairs. The Prime Minister is a female and she does civil stuff and some diplomatic affairs. And is there a off-NS forum foro this Alliance? or maybe region?

No region, I am setting up a forum for GEDRA at my consulate
Tekanian Consulate (http://thecomputerman.dyndns.biz/tekania/consolate)

Well, when talking to the emperor, I will reffer to him as a he.

The Dominion votes yes on the article 7 amendment, so long as the addendum we proposed remains in place.

In our history we have come into contact with a few modern nations, especially those of the regions Sultane Gol and Transcontinental Alliance. There I have engaged in wars with lower tech nations, but on the conditions of the Technology Acknowledgment Treaty, which keeps me from wiping out hostiles from orbit.

Technology Acknowledgment Treaty-
This treaty recognizes the technology of the Sebecean Imperium and other Advanced nations, no matter how advanced it is. But in this spirit, whenever war declared, the advanced nation (about 50 years or more technically advanced than the lower nation) must fight using technology within 20 years of the lower nation abilities.

I suggest all that a simmilar law/treaty be added to the GEDRA. We don't see any faults in this, but feel free to alter it in anyway. Also note this does not include landing troops with dropships, which is allowed, but aslong as combat troops, fighters, and tanks use tech within 20 years of the said nation.

Vyr. General Hein
Cheif Defense Minister
Imperial Military Council

We (The Dominion, that is) think that that is entirely too much paperwork.

'sides, I left my fleets behind when I went Future Tech and warped the country out of NSspace :(

I'm not sure such treaty would be compatible with Article 7... especially as it denotes forms of direct contact with said civilization, and the possibility of them attaining captured equipment (violating the limitation clause on interferance with their natural advancement). If you wish, you can develope it, and place it before council vote, and try to meet Article 10 council vote...

On the possible initial draft of the Protected Planets Treaty...

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Amendment I
The Protected Planets Treaty
1. Planets of lower technology levels, including minor space farers may appeal to the GEDRA Council for protection under this treaty.
2. The following direct qualifiers are neccessary for continued protection under this treaty:
a) Planets population cannot exceed 200 million.
b) The civilization may not journey past their own star system, through either manned flight, or by automated or otherwise, probes.
c) The civilization is required to dismantle and not build any space-bound offensive or defensive weapondry or space-bound war-vessels.
d) Planets under this treaty may not instigate hostilities with any other planet or civilization.
3. Any violation under Article 2 of this Amendment will subject the planet to immediate removal from this treaty... And all protection which it has given them.
4. The Protected Planets Treaty will consist of a Primary Reaction Force (PRF-PPT), of which is a voluntary sub-organization, members which have volunteered on this force may be called under additional articles and stipulations presented in this Amentment.
a) The PRF-PPT Volunteers are as listed:
1) The Constitutional Republic of Tekania
5. Should any civilization or world protected under this treaty come under hostile actions from a space-faring culture or world, the PRF-PPT will be called for their defense, and the GEDRA council will be meet for discuss or add anyother defensive measures the council deems necessary.
a) All military assets given for defense is on a voluntary basis only, no member may be forced, by council, to give assets.
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In addition, the GEDRA council has the ability to meet at the Tekanian Consulate here... (http://thecomputerman.dyndns.biz/tekania/consolate)

Registration and Admin approval mandated.

GEDRA Council chambers is open to GEDRA member worlds/systems only... And is considered classified and locked-out to all others.

All appeals to the council should be made their by visitors, in the appropriate forum.

The Emperor signs onto Amendment I and will send forces of the PRE-PPT force.

I will agree to this, in principle. Certain parts may need reviewing once they have been tested, however.

So far as committing forces to PRF-PPT goes, I will have to get back to you. We are suffering severe levels of internal terrorism and criminal activity right now, and may not be able to spare troops. To put it into perspective, less than a decade ago terrorists managed to destroy a fully-laden, fully mobilised battleship -- in open battle, not via any devious means. Every division of our Armed Forces are currently on high alert status, with almost 75% being constantly mobilised at any one time. Though if you call upon us we can review the situation and determine if any ships and/or personnel can be spared -- but we can't promise anything.

Admiral Rochester
Chief of Strategic Operations
BRAF

The Emperor signs onto Amendment I and will send forces of the PRE-PPT force.

Your willingness to volunteer assets to the PRF-PPT, and approval of the present amendment is noted...

Bretonia’s review is most welcomed. I would advise as many parties look over the draft as it stands, so that it may be revised or altered before coming to vote.

Note that the PRF-PPT will be for initial response to actions, while GEDRA would deliberate on the situation, and is therefore voluntary only. Members may contribute assets, or remove assets from the PRF as they see fit.

In addition, hull BSG-9 (Battle Ship, Galactic), to be named Anubis is nearing completion, she will shortly be christened, and the then PCU (Pre-Commissioning Unit) Anubis will enter spacetrials. Upon completion, she will be assigned permanent duty in either the PRF-PPT, or as a defensive runner for GEDRA under the Tekanian Stellar Navy.

We will sign on for the defense treaty, though we can only devote a small portion of our fleet to the enforcment of such things.

A small number of our ships is all you would really need, however. Consider them something akin to Spaceborne Submarines...

Our nation already has a large peace-keeping force in place around Earth, and while we will gladly re-deploy some of these vessels to the PRF-PPT, our primary concern is protecting MT nations and peacefully resolving disputes in Terran space. So if any of you find your personnel under attack in the Sol system, you know who to call.

Our nation already has a large peace-keeping force in place around Earth, and while we will gladly re-deploy some of these vessels to the PRF-PPT, our primary concern is protecting MT nations and peacefully resolving disputes in Terran space. So if any of you find your personnel under attack in the Sol system, you know who to call.

A very interesting point, and one possibly to add to the Amendment, before we bring it to vote...

Maybe the addition to segmenting out PRF-PPT duties to those nations volunteering for use in it, and have sectors of zoning for each, not only volunteering the position, but volunteering of general or territorially specific duties...

Which also gives me a good idea...

The Anubis, as soon as she has completed trials, will be assigned to permanate duty at Sol, to protect MT nations on earch from FT incursions, in conjuction with the New Exodus forces.... In addition, the TRSS Tiamat (BSG-8) will be immediately assigned those duties till as such time as she can be replaced by an additional SCV (most likely the Poseidon)... If the amendment fails, most of the new SCV's will be assigned to Sol.

Originally Posted by Tekania
The Anubis, as soon as she has completed trials, will be assigned to permanate duty at Sol, to protect MT nations on earch from FT incursions, in conjuction with the New Exodus forces.... In addition, the TRSS Tiamat (BSG-8) will be immediately assigned those duties till as such time as she can be replaced by an additional SCV (most likely the Poseidon)... If the amendment fails, most of the new SCV's will be assigned to Sol.
You have the thanks of the New Exodus Peacekeeping Command.

Having read over the amended teaty the Minasian Empire pledges its latest battle cluster to the PRF-PPT. Smaller than our traditional battle fleets the cluster is designed purely for rapid reaction and for setting up effective defensive platforms in the minimum time.

Considering we have just completed a significant military build-up, and that there are a further two ships currently in production; the Bretonian Royal Armed Force is finally able to allocate two Victoria-class Battleships and a Warwick-class Frigate to the PRF-PPT. Should they ever be required, the HMS Leviathan, the HMS Piccadilly and the HMS Windsor will be at your disposal with full crews and fighter contingents.