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New BattleShips

Greater Taiwan
06-11-2004, 09:23
buy the most powerful and heavily armed Battleship over the set sail on the high seas - order your ships today - she mounts 9x 18.1 inch guns


Specifications

Displacement: 65,027 tonnes (empty, including 21,266 tonnes of armour); 72,800 tonnes
Length: 256 m (water-line)
Beam: 36 m
Draft: 11 m (maximum)
Crew: 2,750
Armament (1941): 9 of 460 mm guns in 3 triple turrets; 12 of 155 mm guns in 4 triple turrets; 12 of 12.7 mm guns in 6 twin turrets; 24 of 25 mm AA guns; 8 of 13 mm AA guns. By 1945 six of the 155 mm and all 13 mm guns had been removed and the AA defences had been boosted to 146 of 25 mm guns.
Power: 12 Kanpon boilers, driving 4 steam turbines, 150,000 shp
Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h)
Endurance: 11,500 km at 16 knots (30 km/h)
Armour: 650 mm on front of turrets, 409 mm side armour, 198 mm armoured deck.

Selling Price:3,250,000,000 United States Dollars (3 Billion, 250 Million)

Production Rights: 7,000,000,000 United States Dollars (7 Billion)

Notes

Note: Respected purchasers reserve the right to modify the ships design to be fitted with a nuclear engine. Construction rights buyers also reserve the right to do the former

Note: It is highly advised you support Yamato calss Battleships with sufficient air support and small craft support

Note: if you join the region of the Citadel we wil provide you with 3 ships of this class for free!

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellaneous/illustrations_and_drawings/steve_nuttall/pictures/yamato/illustr_yamato_01.jpg

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellaneous/illustrations_and_drawings/steve_nuttall/pictures/yamato/illustr_yamato_03.jpg
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 09:35
no anti aircraft missiles?
i can just dive bomb that thing to death with a few ww2 era dauntlesses :D :mp5:
Doujin
06-11-2004, 09:40
Excuse you, I believe I still hold the phrase "most powerful and heavily armed Battleship over the set sail on the high seas"
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 09:41
except your battleship is not technicaly feasable... :rolleyes:

EDIT, Yes Doujin I do rember those arguments, and in the end, I always win
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Doujin
06-11-2004, 09:42
I believe that has been argued dozens of times over, and do you remember what side won the arguements in the end, because I do..
Greater Taiwan
06-11-2004, 10:41
it is feasable being built

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/4207-bilder/bb-yamato.jpg

hmm ok ill put in some 22 anti-aircraft Aspide missile launchers
Doujin
06-11-2004, 10:45
it is feasable being built

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/4207-bilder/bb-yamato.jpg

hmm ok ill put in some 22 anti-aircraft Aspide missile launchers

He wasn't talking about your toy boat, he was talking about the Doujin - http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujinbb.html - that should give you the stats and piccy of the original Mark I version of the behemoth.
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 11:15
No i agree, that behemoth is techincally unfeasible.
Kriegorgrad
06-11-2004, 11:15
OOC: I just came to see Doujin be a bastard to another; unfortunate, ship builder.
Doujin
06-11-2004, 11:21
No i agree, that behemoth is techincally unfeasible.

Incorrect, it could technically be built. It is, however, unfeasible in real life terms, and depending on the nation, NS-wise. It's cost is astronomical, it's very large, very slow, and is a big f'in target (Which is the whole point). Power projection, my friend - that is why Doujinshi Corporation originally constructed them.
Doujin
06-11-2004, 11:22
OOC: I just came to see Doujin be a bastard to another; unfortunate, ship builder.

Generally, I'm a bastard to many people - "ship builder" or otherwise. You should know that! :D
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 11:32
sneeze (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/DoujinBB.gif)
Soviet Haaregrad
06-11-2004, 11:41
OOC: My much more technically feasible(compared to Doujin) battleships and dreadnaughts are bigger and at least as heavily armed... not to brag... it's not bad though, and it's good to see a reasonable design. PS: What time period are you, because it mentions 1941 and 1945 in your specs.

PPS: It's about time I get designing a replacement for my Marx class dreadnaughts, they're getting pretty long in the tooth...
Kriegorgrad
06-11-2004, 11:55
Generally, I'm a bastard to many people - "ship builder" or otherwise. You should know that! :D

Of course I know that, you are the resident bastard! :D
Doujin
06-11-2004, 11:57
sneeze (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/DoujinBB.gif)

Awww, but see if you ever attacked me with a nuclear device I would respond in kind with an amount of nuclear weapons that would melt your nation to glass hundreds of times over ;)
Tyrador
06-11-2004, 12:01
lol
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 12:02
Im bigger than you and I have more nukes :p
and that pic was a joke in case u are too dense to figure it out.....
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 12:10
U say power projection?
Well surely a few properly guided missiles would destroy the thing? Plus why have something so big and slow and with poor manoeuvrability?
Doujin
06-11-2004, 12:14
U say power projection?
Well surely a few properly guided missiles would destroy the thing? Plus why have something so big and slow and with poor manoeuvrability?

It would take numerous waves of missiles to render it inoperable. Outright destruction is a very difficult task due to it's construction and armour. Best goal is to render it inoperable.
Doujin
06-11-2004, 12:15
Im bigger than you and I have more nukes :p
and that pic was a joke in case u are too dense to figure it out.....

Already starting with personal attacks? That isn't nice!
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 12:18
grow a thicker skin

and lets stop hijacking shall we?
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 12:21
It would take numerous waves of missiles to render it inoperable. Outright destruction is a very difficult task due to it's construction and armour. Best goal is to render it inoperable.

And if a re-enaction of the Hood was to take place and the missile was big enuff?
New Empire
06-11-2004, 12:32
And if a re-enaction of the Hood was to take place and the missile was big enuff?
Uh, well, I'm pretty sure the only cruise missiles that can actually get through the defenses are also far too small to do any damage. And using ballistic missiles against these things is pretty silly, since even they don't have that much warhead in them.

I'm pretty sure my ultra heavy torpdoes (14,000 lbs of explosive) could take this thing out pretty quickly, but again, I'm pretty sure the Doujin has ASHUM guns or some such thing.
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 12:36
Oh... well u never know.
I am just amazed that such a large ship was even considered to be built. Is it finished and has it been used in action? I would love to know how it goes in actual combat, plus how easily can your runways be repaired, say if they are damaged during a battle, and ur a long way from your homeland or allies, what happens to the planes in the air if there is no alternate carrier?
Just an abservation, even small missiles can do that :mp5:
Doujin
06-11-2004, 12:41
Oh... well u never know.
I am just amazed that such a large ship was even considered to be built. Is it finished and has it been used in action? I would love to know how it goes in actual combat, plus how easily can your runways be repaired, say if they are damaged during a battle, and ur a long way from your homeland or allies, what happens to the planes in the air if there is no alternate carrier?
Just an abservation, even small missiles can do that :mp5:

There are many Doujin Class vessels. Each Assault Fleet has Three Doujin's and around 120+ supporting vessels. (Remember, the NS world is the size of Jupiter + - lots of "grounD" to cover)

Out of 2000 Yakhont-3 missiles launched at one of the pre-expansion fleets with the first Doujin, only 15 managed to hit the Doujin - and managed to bring down one of the masts on the superstructure. Of course, the attackers fleet sank to the bottom of the ocean soon after.
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 12:51
Ofcorse they sank. Hehe.
What was the size of the oppostiong fleet?
Say you were attacked by an equal force but contained smaller and faster ships? Say a normal battleship. I just question its ability to fight because of its speed, but i like the idea.
The Phoenix Milita
06-11-2004, 12:55
There are many Doujin Class vessels. Each Assault Fleet has Three Doujin's and around 120+ supporting vessels. (Remember, the NS world is the size of Jupiter + - lots of "grounD" to cover)

Out of 2000 Yakhont-3 missiles launched at one of the pre-expansion fleets with the first Doujin, only 15 managed to hit the Doujin - and managed to bring down one of the masts on the superstructure. Of course, the attackers fleet sank to the bottom of the ocean soon after.
cause your a godmodder
Scaropin
06-11-2004, 12:58
Probably
Doujin
06-11-2004, 13:04
cause your a godmodder

Yep, sure am. I love doing it, it's so much fun.
Doujin
06-11-2004, 13:06
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/doujincorp/diagram.png
Inkana
06-11-2004, 13:59
OCC:I was wondering if I could buy 5 Doujin Class Battleships
Tanthan
06-11-2004, 15:12
OOC: MOST of the ship is technologically feasible today, but the costs are so expensive and the ship is too large of a target to pose much of a threat that 250 aircraft carriers, battleships or missile cruisers could do. This is easily a deterrant and is like laughing at the enemy how much money you have, but yes it cannot dodge THAT many missles without a damn good reason.

TAG for possible purchase.
Greater Taiwan
06-11-2004, 21:06
The Yamato's turning ability was excellent.
Her tactical diameter, when turned by a maximum rudder angle of 36 degrees at a speed of 26 knots was 2099 feet.
These figures were considered superior when compared to other battleships.
The Yamato had two rudders, the main and auxiliary, instead of the twin-rudder system of ordinary large warships.
Originally it was planned to install two rudders, one each fore and aft, in view of the fact that the German Bismarck finally lost her maneuverability ability due to damage to her rudders .
Doujin
07-11-2004, 02:51
Emblazoned on the beam of the DN Doujin, Longa Pericuolosaque Navis. A long and dangerous ship. Accurate description of her, but to some not accurate enough. Ab Infernis Navis, or "Ship from Hell" - as she is called by many. With each Assault Fleet having 3, and a 150+ ship escort, something to be feared. Wish I had the specs for all the vessels that compromise the Doujin Navy still, but I don't want to go hunt for them.

I had 3 Assault Fleets, with one Doujin out of all of them. The Doujin was in the heart of the Fleet Command, with around 500 ships surrounding. The mission was to completely destroy the Allanean naval presence at or around Atlantic Island, and pave the way for an invasion of the Allanean coast. Excessive, understandably, but Doujin is a naval nation - and uses whatever it can to make sure the job required of it is completeded exceptionally. 2000 missiles is a large mass, and it would not be hard to be rid of a large amount of them. To give an accurate recount, 250-500 missiles did get through - I don't remember the exact number - and managed to sink 10-15 military / auxiliary vessels, and damaged an additional 10-15 military / auxiliary vessels.
Greater Taiwan
10-11-2004, 00:01
gte ya own battlehsip thread fucker
Japanese Antarctica
10-11-2004, 00:17
He wasn't talking about your toy boat, he was talking about the Doujin - http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujinbb.html - that should give you the stats and piccy of the original Mark I version of the behemoth.

OOC: isn't that too big for some locks? don't some canals have limits on displacements?